Modern Feminism Destroys American Women | Janice Fiamengo EP 20
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024
- This episode was recorded on November 4th, 2022.
Tammy begins a new series of podcasts with Janice Fiamengo to discuss feminism and its historical unfolding through the people that espoused it. In this episode, Victoria Woodhull is the historical figure that they explore. In addition to being a political activist, she was business woman, spiritualist, and writer.
Janice Fiamengo is a retired Professor of English from the University of Ottawa. She began The Fiamengo File series of RUclips videos in 2015 to discuss the fraud of academic feminism and its devastating social effects. Her book "Sons of Feminism: Men Have Their Say" was published in 2018, containing stories from men who have suffered in our feminist culture. She is now working on a new video series to uncover the anti-male bigotry and female supremacism at the origins of feminism in the 18th and 19th centuries.
Find more from Janice:
RUclips:
• Early Feminists Hoped ...
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- Chapters -
[05:25] - Intro to Series with Janice
[05:49] - Victoria Woodhull
[13:59] - The Oneida Community
[30:48] - The Over-glorification of Women's Sexuality
[42:12] - The Problem with Utopian Thinking
[59:26] - How to Know You're in the Right Place
[01:09:16] - Look Inward before Looking Outward
[01:12:20] - The Lost Virtue of Service
I grew up in Communist Poland, and was sent to a nursery school as an infant and as a result never bonded with my mother. I am still trying to recover from this. I strongly believe that children should be breast fed and raised by the mother until at least three years old if not longer in order to feel loved unconditionally. In school, we were taught that we owed our alegance to the state and not the family. As we know, this was a disaster. I now see the same thing happening in the west. Very sad.
I agree with you
Marxism said that it would free women from the slavery of domestic tasks where they were exploited by their husbands and subjected to their children, sending them to work in factories where their social work would be redistributed, no marriage, the freedom of not having their own home , a husband or crying children standing in the way of his emancipation as a human being. Seriously now, in the Soviet Union the result was that women had to go to work in factories for 10 to 12 hours to try to reach the exaggeratedly high production quotas and then go to a communal dormitory and visit their family one or two days a week... release?
That's so sad. Though even more sadly it's common in every country today. I've seen old research that shows that a child under the age of 3 suffers more abandonment than an infant sent to an orphanage. The child in the orphanage gets abandoned once. But children under three don't understand, so for them they are abandoned daily, what's more in modern daycare often twice, they finally try and form an emotional connection to a daycare worker and she goes home and is replaced by another. Day after day after day. My country Australia used to do a lot to assist married mothers to afford to stay at home with their children. But not anymore. Now "apparently" all mothers want is affordable daycare from six weeks of age. No wonder their is a generation of teens addicted to screens and confused about their gender.
As a single mama that definitely got sucked into the vortex of independent woman and male-dominated world... now with a deep deep respect for masculinity and family I thank you 🙏🏽
❤️🙏
God bless & help you. The world misleads actually.
this is of the words that needs be to microphon(ed) via John Vervæke - via Philos Sophia;
learn(ed) ignorance; may be it forms of redemption
The sad thing is how easily women are brainwashed into this nonsense - robbing them of their best chance to establish a nuclear family. The knock on effects in society and culture are severe.
Me too. I got suckered into the whole feminism stuff back in the 1970s. Even then I wondered why it was dominated by an extremely disproportionate number of gay women. That was a red flag that I saw and felt uneasy about but ignored. Now look at the total mess our culture has become!
This needs to be spoken about EVERYWHERE!!! This is the roots and fruits of what we are seeing right now in present day.
Let's do it!
No one wants to hear this misogynistic drivil. We've heard enough. The statts on men harming women aren't lies. Grow up!
Have this for yourself. The rest of us don't want to live in The Handmaid's Tale!
Mrs. Peterson, I’m so grateful to you and Janice for having and sharing these conversations. These issues have been weighing on my heart for some years, and I’ve felt alone in those concerns. I too am an English major. I write cozy “hopepunk” science fiction novels that shine a light on some of the ways men suffer and hurt and are marginalized. I’m not a published author yet but I’m working toward that. I think that addressing these issues through story is my calling in my life, and is what I can do. It was Dr. Peterson who taught me to the importance of story, and telling the truth, and telling the truth through story, and recognizing that the problem that weighs on your heart, morning noon and night, is YOUR problem. So I’m much obliged to both of you for reminding me of the calling I am called to, and reminding me that my work matters, even though just now it’s invisible and not quite ready to give to the world.
It seems pretty clear that universal suffrage was a huge error. Sadly the conservative, Christian women in my direct circles do not remotely represent the female voting bloc. I see no alternative to crippling taxes to pay for generous welfare, mass immigration precipitated by insufficiency low reproduction & out of control female compassion. Doom, in short.
All the Best Ruth, I’m sure you’re giving your all :)
I would like to read some of your work.
Is it public? I’d love to read a book about men’s/boys issues
Tammy, thank you for having Janice on. Janice, your knowledge about the history of feminism is amazing and I love your calm thorough communication style. I would love to know if you've been interested in this subject even while you were teaching English at the University of Ottawa, or if you took this deep plunge after you retired.
Janice!!! The kind of English teacher whose class every mom and dad hopes either their son or daughter is enrolled in. Those lucky enough will remember that time all their lives.
@Alliebeth4072 really eye opening.
I’m glad you’re helping us dive into the history of feminism. I’ve long wanted to study the origins and history but it seemed like just too big of a task along with daily life. The podcasts are a great medium for this. Thank you! 🙏🏻
My favorite part is your insight on tyranny and how a lack of playfulness and joy in our relationships is an indicator of tyranny. I have in the past few weeks felt so burdened in my parenting and listening to you made me realize that out of fear of raising uncivilized children I’ve drifted into a little bit of a tyrannical approach. Thank you for sharing. I needed that reset
I just finished watching this video and the Deception of Feminism video. Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for bringing the historical truth about this movement in, as well as sharing your profound thoughts about service, pride, and the futile and often dangerous quest for Utopia. We need more of this honesty in our world!
What an insightfull profound conversation. Brilliant gast. I am in awe of how she is able to talk hardly without having to collect her thoughts and being so clear, precise and on point with everything she says. She is an excellent speaker. She looks like from an old century and when I look at her it almost feels like she portraits the time she is talking about.
I loved the last part of this conversation. When my kids were littler I had a kindness day. I would buy roses and dethorn them and then walk around town. And I let them hand the rose to anyone they thought might need it. I wanted them to know the feeling of giving without receiving. They loved it and were surprised but happy about how happy it made themselves even when the person didn't want the rose.
That’s such a beautiful thing you taught your children ❤
What a great conversation. The depth and eloquence in which you all spoke about men and women, utopian ideology, child-rearing, sacrifice --- brings my heart joy. We need more of this and more families being formed with respect for God/nature and humility.
Thanks for posting tammy we've missed you and are super interested in this topic
I greatly appreciate this format - focusing on a particular person in the feminist movement. Getting to know the kinds of people that shaped a movement is fundamentally different from just being served up propositions.
More to come 👍
@@TammyPetersonPodcast what are your thoughts on the red pill ?
@@btb554 maybe you are referring to changing someone’s mind by educating them on the other side of issues
@@TammyPetersonPodcast I was talking about the red pill ideologies and youtubers like rollo tomassi, fresh and fit, and whatever podcast.
@@btb554 I’ll look them up
As a young woman in my 20s I was very supportive of feminist ideas in regard to equally in the work place , with time I began to see feminism as very self-centered, narcissistic and psychopathic. I rejected feminism, and found my way through.
Though I must admit that the work put forth to ensure women are treated better in the work place have
made the worklife of women outside of the home better, but I have found it a determent to family life. In fact it has made things worse for the family in every way.
The first wave of feminism was made up of working women and widows who had to work to feed their children at a time when working conditions for both men and women were simply horrible, women were paid half than a man's salary, girls had to start working at the age of 12 and if they were injured or mutilated they were simply thrown out on the street, the situation was bad for men, much worse for women, the first of their demands it was "Equal pay for equal work", what they wanted was better treatment and recognition of their human rights, they did not question marriage, family or motherhood, quite the contrary, the second wave of feminism tried to obtain the right to vote, to hold public office, enter universities and have their own careers, the third wave is actually the problem, the third wave of feminism was made up of lesbian activists who were proud to recognize it at a time when it was scandalous and those activists rejected marriage, family and motherhood as misfortunes for women, their ideal of women were themselves, a minority despised and marginalized by society, it is natural that their attitude was hatred and contempt towards society, they developed an ideology full of of hatred towards men, marriage, family and children, the problem is that this class of women is a tiny minority, the vast majority of women are not third wave feminists, they are too busy first wave feminists being led by third wave feminists.
depends on what the “work” is. I’ve never had a good job where I’ve been treated well
@juliettezea9507 my daughter has had the same experience.
@@zarach9459 Watch some of Janice's other work on this topic, and you will end up with a very different notion on how feminism was in the early days. It was never about equality, never about fairness, and never about human rights. Yes, some of the things it achieved are a net positive, but that was never the goal, that was milestone.
"The age old human problems are perennial" ..... was such a good line by Janice. Really struck me. This was a really great podcast.
During confession with my spiritual father, I mentioned what weighed on my heart the most. It was that I no longer felt "love" for my husband. Instead I felt coldness and resentment. Resentment for him not being the husband I wanted him to be.
We had not been intimate for over two years and I was not comfortable about feeling pressured to have a sexual relationship. There are various reasons I no longer felt this desire...every marriage has its cross to bear..
Anyways, during confession my priest reminded me of what the true meaning of love is ...
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. (Corinthians 13:4-8)
Love is not a passion but a beautiful Christian bond between a husband and wife. It should not be compromised by the evil spirits of this world that wish to place an unhealthy emphasis on sexual relations within a marriage. I feel that sexual relations within a marriage has deviated from the purpose of child bearing to a perverse immorality that is causing marital problems for many women and men.
My spiritual father instructed me to pray for my husband and our relationship. I have done this to the best of my weak human ability and it has proven to be the turning point in our marriage.
My husband is slowly becoming more faithful and we are beginning to connect through prayer and reading Holy scriptures. This is the closest I have ever felt to my husband.
I pray that this spiritual bond will bring us closer and closer as we journey into our senior years.
Our children are in their early twenties and are still living at home. I know this change in our relationship is having a positive impact in their spiritual lives as well.
May God help all those who are struggling to keep their marriage healthy and Holy 🙏
That’s great! Marriage needs a lot of nurturing. It’s like a flower that needs sunlight and water and love (flowers do need love). I’m so glad your marriage ended up well. I believe in the power of prayer and that’s what I do. God is my strength and my daily companion. We’re not strong enough and wise enough to take care of our problems; we need God’s help. 🙏
Love can and should be both a spiritual and physical bond. Otherwise you're just really good friends.
The joys and pleasure that result from intimacy within a loving bond of marriage is God given when it comes from a genuine place of connection 🌹
Wishing your family all the very best. Blessings to you.
Have you heard of marital debt? There is wisdom behind this ancient Catholic concept. Beware of leaving a man without sex for too long..
I have never been a feminist and definitely I will never become one after hearing this… Poor children 💔
Thank you Tammy. Very informative and an important conversation for our times.
Lovely conversation between two lovely, very capable women. Even your voices are therapeutic.🙂 God bless.
Good to see and hear Janice again - she has been a rock for many years now! I loved what Tammy said about playfulness/ lightness in our interactions and how the lack of it can alert us to our stiffness and need for authority. Excellent observation - thank you!
A wonderful, informative, gentle conversation. I'm so glad I found you Tammy Peterson!
Thanks Tammy. Your calm voice is great at steering through the thread of the story.
I find it interesting how extremists tend to idolize theirselves and cherry pick. A woman is strong until attacked by a guy. Then all of a sudden the man bears the responsibility to protect. Even though they've been put down for being aggressive or manly in nature.
Nah, these pathetic males bare the responsibility not to be an abuser and if more males were not abusers these harmful males would not think being an abuser makes them manly 🤡
@@terrorists-are-among-us I definitely think there's some weight to that. But the truth is if someone grows up in an abusive household it's about 50 50 I think. They'll either pick up the behavior or in the best case scenario run the exact opposite way with it. My biggest issue is now we have children that are consumed by trying to figure out that plus all the social influences. And the social influence is. A man who even raises their voice is being aggressive. And that just isn't true. If a guy pushes a woman out of the way when she punched him to leave. He's abusive. If you don't put woman on a golden pedestal and understand that's where she should be. Your misogynistic. Now this being flung at a 13 year old testosterone filled boy. Oh i get angry and my voice deepens, but I'm told to knock it off something must be wrong with me. Then how are they supposed to function their natural instincts are being dogged.
@@destinymayberry6217 you sound desperate. any guy that values women will say "never shout at a female" 🤡 a good father would say this to his son and set the example. Tantruming assholes are incels for good reason. Not fit for survival. Bottom of the barrel. Women don't owe these pity seeking wankers sex or children to abuse. A woman of value wouldn't sacrifice herself or her children to these turds just to "get/babysit a male". Maybe 100 years ago it made some sort of sense as a trade, now there is no value in humoring a guy that demands a woman "carry her own weight", often his weight too, and harms the family. They're a harm and burden to us when not high value, if only their dads were not deadbeats.
@@terrorists-are-among-us Dude I didn't mean shout at a woman specifically. I mean that men are slightly aggressive by nature. Should that be directed at girls specifically. No. Also I'm a former dv survivor. When I say I encourage men to be manly. I in no way mean that to translate too be aggressive towards the opposite sex.
Even worse,if you "intervene" and use violence if necessary you'll get persecuted and demonised by both the victim and the perpetrator,particulary If they are/were a couple.
Thank you, Tammy! I’m very happy to see Janice back in action. I have not overly suffered from feminism, more like I tried to live up to the talk, and that kept backfiring! Janice explained that and cleared it all up really well.
I really appreciate the comment on playfulness being used as a measure. I'm absolutely adopting this idea.
I'll preface this by saying I haven't listened to this yet but I intend to tomorrow. (I'm going to sleep now.) But I've spent a lot of time in the past year thinking about feminism, the role of women, marriage, etc. And something Jordan said recently really struck me.
"Pick your poison".
I've spent a lot of time beating myself up over the fact that I'm in my 30s, unmarried, and childless. Truthfully though I don't believe I would make a good mother or wife. I'm far too disagreeable and neurotic. I hate compromising my freedom in any way and it took the pain of serious relationships ending to realize this. Long-term relationships are full of compromise and sacrifice. Things which frankly I am not ok with. And I have had to admit this to myself. Under no circumstances do I want a man dictating to me what I should or should not do. Ever.
So...I picked my poison.
No matter what you do in life, there will be something you are sacrificing.
I don't really care if I live until old age. So the idea of having someone there to take care of me is of little concern to me.
But I think at the end of the day .... people need to be honest with themselves about who they are and what they want and what they are and are not willing to sacrifice.
There are too many women out there who never should have been mothers. And I'm sure there are many young women now who would make excellent mothers who are being convinced it's a terrible path to go down.
Motherhood and marriage should not be condemned by feminists nor should they be thrusted upon women by traditionalists. And Jordan as of recently has been really bothering me in this regard. While I think it is beautiful what Jordan and Tammy have together, I also understand that lifestyle is not for everyone. And not every woman or man is indeed meant to be parents or wives or husbands.
I haven't watched this and have no intention of watching. But I was curious enough to look through the comment section and really agree with you.
This idea that life is "hard for women" because they have to "do everything" is seriously aggravating. It's a purely self-inflicted problem. I never wanted "everything", just specific things. Why don't these women consult their genuine preferences?
I'm a great believer in personal autonomy over blaming society.
such a great interview, very informative. Interesting that the feminist who claimed to love everyone so abundantly was not willing to extend that love to the unborn. We have a prime minister in our country who advocates 'kindness and love' to others but when it comes to the unborn legalised full term abortion. It seem to me that the 'love' they speak of so freely is in word only.
Lovely thoughts at the end. Look for ways to be of service to others. It always brings joy. Thank you!
'be ye followers of me, as I also am of Christ" Paul's advice for service, following that of his Lord's example. Compassion for all, but always with the flip side of responsiblilty and accountablility
Greetings from Moscow 🕊️ with peace and love!
Haven't seen many videos from Janice lately. I really enjoy her content.
Tammy and Janice - thank for your beautiful female voices speaking out about how all virtue and compassion was rolled up into theosophy and Marxism and collectivism and repackaged to us all minus God - you are right Tammy it is the sin of Pride that is the first sin and the hardest to recognize - I have spent decades fallen because of believing in my own version of Christianity and my place in it - love and blessings to you both❤️
Excellent conversation!🙌👍
Brilliant ladies, brilliant thank you
Great talk Janice!
Absolutely brilliant ladies. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this series!!
Janice is so unique!
For some the word “freedom “ is used as an excuse for selfishness,and the motivation for using the word must always be examined.
What a great conversation, thank you! I minored in women's studies, and the infoJanice shared was completely new to me! Tammy, I love your calm and engaging demeanor. I 'm looking forward to more of your videos.
why is there 'women's studies' anyhow? Is it one facet of 'the long march through the institutions" deliberately begun to undermine God given rules. Oh, not suppose to have 'rules'!!
Janice Fiamengo is so fantastic! I very much enjoyed her series on feminism and I will be following her in her further endeavors. She speaks pure truth no matter how constraining on some people's "freedom". Life requires hard work, sacrifice, selflessness, and putting yourselves in another's shoes.
Feminism is overall a selfish, self absorbed, shallow mindset.
Tammy, I think we should study the continued reemergence of these diabolical ideas. They all end up in others suffering. Husbands, children and the next generations.
Janice mentioned written accounts of children raised in these free love situations. I would love to know more of these books or accounts.
Maybe this 19th century woman has a mental illness.
Appreciate you both for sharing your conversation.
Thank you Tammy I really appreciate you your husband and your daughter for your wisdom open & Vulnerable conversations... I am forever grateful...looking forward to seeing your husband in Calgary in May I am taking my sons 🙏🏽
I love both of you! Thanks for your ideas and the way to explain them. (From Spain)
Being of service is what Queen Elizabeth embodied.
yes, and she stuck to her Christian principles, even though her family was not
Janice is excellent.
Suggestion: interview Mary Eberstadt on her book “Primal Screams: How the Sexual Revolution Created Identity Politics”
It seems to me that most of the feminist of that era and probably the modern one as well were middle class and educated and had the time and latitude to complain about the perceived ills of society as opposed to the working class ones.
This was brilliant, thank you!
great work ladies
Thank you!
Thank you, Tammy....Janice is speaking/writing, exactly how I see what the feminist movement has done to man.....its terrible!!...on a personal note this has strongly influenced, hi rate of marriage failures; divorce...and, how its labeled men .. ..Destruction!!!.....the consequence on a personal note: my son, destroyed by x- wife, and her mother!!!
Isn't interesting that the people who want to have no-strings sexuality/relationships always describe their projects as being an expression of human freedom, as opposed to stuffy old marriage. It never occurs to such people that marriage could have been the product of the free choices of previous generations.
I think a very large difference between a family that loses a father due to war (or disease or accidental death) from what we used to call a broken family (from divorce) is that the widowed mother can retain and encourage in her children a love of the father. A divorced mother is likely to raise her kids to hate their father. I'm shocked at how often I hear adults speak about how great mom was for protecting them from a dreadful father - these people never seem to have thought to get their dad's side of the issue.
Thank you lovely ❤️
2014/15 I found some of Janice Fiamengo's filmed lectures where she encountered the snow flake mob. When Steve Brule started The Fiamengo Files, I watched all of them. Ok, most of them. They were a must for me. Through Steve Brule I also found Bettina Arndt. So many heroines are still out there!
Yes, Bettina is an Australian treasure. Like Janice, she has a very clear vision of men's issues, and is also an incredible public crusader.
I know that I am late to the party but thank you for saying things have lost their playfulness and become rigid. I have a friend who is Right and the only place to set seems to be in the chair labeled Wrong. No wonder I feel restless. How can I take care of me and be of service to those around me.
49:00 - It sounds as if she has deified her emotions. As Lewis says, when you raise to the level of god something that ought not to be, it becomes a demon.
yes, when God is thrown out, then something must take his place. If one doesn't stand for something, one will fall for anything.
56:20 - This section on playfulness is wonderful. Much deeper than it seems at first glance.
Very informative. Thank you!!
hm, I had no idea she did some podcast's I'll have to listen to this.
Being strong is one thing, during challenging time, but to deprive one of a man in your life unnecessarily is unreasonable. Having standards is a good thing, but trust me you're never so good enough that no man is a match for that
Every choice excludes what is not chosen.
The following is not verbatim.
Linus: I want to be a philanthropist when I grow up!
Lucy: Don't be silly. Philanthropists care about Humankind.
Linus: I LOVE Humankind! It's people that can't stand!
Excellent discussion.
My Christian daughter bought into this and is now a Wiccan that buys into all this radicalism
I would love to see you interview Jörg Guido Hülsmann on women's role in charity.
That's an amazing insight, Tammy to recognize that we are not in charge of life and death situations, only God is. And it is pride/ego that causes us to think that we are in control of such decisions. I was in a similar situation of serious illness and acceptance of what is - is (Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now), helped me. Acceptance and curiosity. Accept and even welcome what is as if you had chosen it.
A compelling story right or wrong will travel further then a simple truth.
Thank you.
Τammy, the incident about the Acropolis in Athens was not 'just that day' of course. People like the woman who was standing in the way not enjoying the idea you were going to enter, was because she simply cant, she thinks she is doing you a favor. Such a pity i didnt know you were going to be in Athens... I would have loved to come and see you, but you were probably here just on holiday. Xxx Elisavet
Negotiation is deemed antiromantic. An essential theme of the romance genre is that the female protagonist receives what she desires without ever having to express her desires. Women's groups often too quickly reach a consensus at the actual loss of a real sense of the word in order to avoid public confrontation while the disagreements get aired behind the scenes as individuals form cabals and covert alliances
The Oneida Community reminds me of the hippie communes I was in during the 1970s.
The problem is people are fascinated with mysticism I think because it's permission to kind of do what you please. No offense to anyone from the 70s as I'm in no way equipped with that many years.
@@destinymayberry6217 That generation was overreacting to the rigid roles of the 50s. Now I can see where the feminists of that era were venting a lot of resentment against men. Now we have to undo the damage of that time. The assault against masculinity is way over the top.
Happy new year 2023!
I received a diagnosis that altered my life 14 years ago. (Not life threatening.) I too had to tell my family about it as it changed all their lives as well in caring for me and altered expectations. I am interested in why Tammy says that is coming from the son of pride that not God knows…. Gonna have to think about that.
Hi Tammy! You have no uploaded new videos on a while. I miss your voice. Hope you update soon!
Im trying to figure out how communal living gives a woman more freedom than marriage. My husband is far more likely to overlook my deficiencies than other people. If i dont get to the dishes because im busy or just too tired, my husband is more likely than a non family memeber to have compassion and do the dishes to help me out. A stranger im living with is more likely to be annoyed or even hold resentment for me if they feel im not pulling my weight. They are less likely to try and understand where im coming from because they don't love me like my husband does. Also, as the wife and mother, i get respect and while i have duty and responsibility, i also get more privileges and i have far more say in what happens in the household. Yes my husband has final say because ive consented to being submissive (notice i said i consent, so thats also freedom), but im number 2 in the house and am in charge over a lot of things that my husband has given me authority over. In communal living, my say would mean absolutely nothing. If i didn't like something, there would be no discussion like there is with my husband. No, it would be fall in line or get out. Therefore, i would lose all freedoms just because of the social pressure to conform.
Because she can share her body with who ever she wants for manipulation
Soviet Union ideally wanted to break up the family structure , but practically they did nothing of that sort because it was unworkable and Russians would not put up with it .
There are no solutions, only trade offs.--Thomas Sowell
I think it was in book Cosmic Justice. Might have heard it in podcast about Social Justice Fallacies too. I thjnk that was a book too. Hard to remember he has written so many stellar ones. Would LOVE he and JBP to do a show at least once before one of them passes from this Earth.
29:43 I would love to learn more about this sad topic.
Socialist communes were also developed in China under Mao in the 50s with desasterous consequences
Perfection is BOTH
a noun and a verb...
we rightly recognize
the noun as saying end
state without flaw being
not rationally possible
but the VERB means
engaging a process
of IMPROVEMENT
... for sure there's an
intersection but it's
helpful to delineate
how it's meant... Like
with the issue of self
assuming godhood vs
the recognition we are
all children of God
Thank you very much ladies. I’ve enjoyed listening to this. I just wanting to add regarding services to other. I’m a sinful person whom only do things to my benefit. Until the Lord help me to know him in a miraculous way. He had helped me to reverse my life style into his ways of living which is serving others. Ever since he changed me I’m very joyful and love life. I live with peace and see love as a given. I try to take good care of my health so I could be a service to everyone the Lord place in my day.🙏🏼. I’m Catholic and love our Lord much!
Very interesting
There is an excessive quest for freedom behind that. Not that there was no progress to do on this front and that there were no oppression but there is a false conception of freedom as opposed to a false conception of oppression which seems to be viewed as hyper-structural driving force.
Interesting conversation. However some men can terrorise and abuse women within marriage, and some don't of course.
Majority of men don't, it's only about 1% of mentally ill men do that. That being said having boundaries and vehemently enforcing then on the relationship is naturally masculine trait. Leader is the man no matter how your wanna slice it. Men and women are quite different genetically, hormonally and psychologically. In fact even in these modern times most women love to be submissive and feel protected by a masculine man, feminism is what ruined that purely natural feminine.
When anyone talks about a pre effective contraception era, they often fail to recognise that being unable to easily limit reproduction oppressed both women and men. A long time ago Germaine Greer said it will probably take 200 years to sort this stuff out.
Men aren't being taught to lead in some cases. That's why there's a crisis. I was married once, and he deserted me. I was with another man for 15 years who basically wanted me to work for him so he could have security through me instead of working and protecting me. This is what's happening in this country. Where are the fathers? The men? There are men in the specialized school I work in because we need them. In public instruction, it's mostly women doing teaching. I no longer date or anything like that with all my children grown (adult and two teens), but I know now that there's a big disadvantage to being alone. Not just in terms of loneliness but in major social disadvantages. When I lived with the parasitical man (we were technically married, that was a sham) he really had a krypton like effect on me in social status, though. Marry or partner with a sociopath and people, including other couples, will give you a wide berth. Women are being taught to stray into relationships, too. Instead of remaining virtuous and finding a spouse, we're supposed to try people out? Yuck. I'd give anything for my kids to not suffer my lot in life. Anything.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I’ll be interviewing Dr Sarah Hill about her book, This is the brain on birth control pills in a few days and another interview on narcissism. I have so much to learn and share with my listeners. Thank you for listening
Feminism is yet another ism word…creating the ideology that there is actually a place of worship for such behaviors that have been attached . The continued separation of the female and the male is deliberate and the consistent voice for equality seems always to be expressed in the negative of the male and then the sexual desires that are denied to the female or the abuse of her sexual self. Many years ago I read”the third eye” which speaks to a more progressive attitude , with an understanding of how we came to be in this division. My conclusion is that quite simply it is the Voice of the feminine that has been shut out, and it is imperative that we do not , at this present time in history, fall into the same trap, but this time where only the feminine voice is heard. Perhaps we could examine how that might be accomplished, two voices united….. it would seem to me that once this occurs those who have held power over our society will loose their gripe. I ‘m concerned when I hear single issues declared as feminism, the need for a woman to attain the same as a man. I for one do not hold “man” as a place to aspire to, I aspire to be the best possible human I can be…. And there are many other such examples of how confusion has prevented the progression of listening to both the voices of the human species. And, no, I don’t want to be compared to other species such as lions etc. as an example of how we should shoulder responsibility.
Galatians 3:25-29 part of which reads "there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus"..................
I’ll make the over-the-top comment. .feminism harms woman. . and not-sees, in 1930’s German, actually harmed Germans, and not Jews. We must pay attention to the real harm.
56:24 I wonder again at the Wisdom of the US Founder's INSISTENCE for the separation of Church and State while still recognizing the value of "the Church" in briader Societal Context(s).
I really like the way she phrases targeted by empathy.
😕 they brought theism/deism/religion into it.
It seems like I’m the only atheist person who thinks the modern women’s liberation movement had some very bad outcomes for women.
Womens lib saved alot of women
Lets not forget that rugged individualism might have also played a big role in the proliferation of the fragmentation of society today. While rugged individualism is a good thing, i think it was individualism taken to the EXTREME
Here are 2 insightful women who can see through and further than most
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I'm glad Janice continues to stress the deeply negative effects that feminism has on children via it's long-standing war on families. Broken homes are the norm in Western culture because of this, and the damage to children always gets minimized in feminism's never-ending me-centric activism. It's almost like the founding mothers of feminism hated children, hated their own biology, and in general considered children a from of suffering to be avoided, mitigated, of sloughed-off onto others at every opportunity. It's just a codified form of petulant selfishness masquerading as virtue.
51:00 Wasn't this the "original" criticism of Protestantism from it's very beginning(s)? All while ignoring the Parhologies if existing Religious Institutions and Hierarchies. Sounds eerily similar to today.
Miss Tammy's comment about the repetitive nature of all of these "movements" brings to mind Solomon's comments I think it was in Lamentations about there being "Nothing new under the sun".
Something you never hear in Modern Society is the ancient tradition of the elderly almost embracing mortality because of the wisdom gained suffering through life experience of the profound futility of practically all of human existence and endeavors. I think of Lamentations 4:3 in this context. Something the young can never understand unless exposed to folks more than a week older than themselves. Also something almost vanished from Society except maybe at end of life. Like literally THE end in last few days.
i used to think that leaving the place a better place is the key to making friends… just like you can gentrify a place in poor condition , you can do the same with people and be uplifting… i called it buddhist… this is not a ‘feminist’ quality, its a spiritual humanist quality to improve the condition… but some ill informed people don’t accept it as a masculine quality, and depending on the cultural environment people might think your putting too much emphasis on things people don’t care about since everyone should be chasing money in a free market economy. worse is when you end up tricking yourself into doing all the shitwork, which people then expect you to do… And i don’t know what to do… i think women think I’m weak and will risk taking advantage of me since they don’t respect me.
Women have been led astray by the feminists movements, that’s for sure. When we find ourselves giving up on who we are, and loose sight, in the highest sense, nothing good can come from that. It’s up to us to double down on our faith and stand up straight and tall. It’s up to us to reach up and move forward doing the next right thing no matter what
Tammy's remarks pointing out the importance of negotiation, reminds of the Scriptural admonition extending towards both husbands and wives to submit to one another; this out of reverence for Jesus Christ, Who had submitted to the point of laying His life down physically in order to redeem His bride.
Tragically in the past, and still today, Scripture had been and still is being applied selectively by some; towards singling out only submission of wives to their husbands.
Such treatment of a wife, which can be referred to as religious abuse, sadly becomes the source of brokenness, and pain within a marriage relationship and home; by also stealing from the couple any real possibility of proper communication and growing together.
Tammy's remarks about negotiation, reminds of the Scriptural admonistion extending towards both husbands and wives to submit to one another; this out of reverence for Jesus Christ, Who had submitted to the point of laying His life down physically in order to redeem His bride. Tragically in the past, and still today, Scripture had been and still is being applied selectively by some; towards singling out only submission of wives to their husbands. Such treatment of a wife, which can be referred to as religious abuse, sadly is the source of much brokenness, and pain within a marriage relationship. Are you saying that the understanding of submission from scripture has been misunderstood and has led to abuse in modern marriages?
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Yes, sadly this is the case, and I believe many marriage relationships had been destroyed as result. Teaching in some churches/denominations had been insisting on obedience of wives to their husbands to the point of it being the ultimate virtue a wife could have. Had eventually found a section in the last chapter in Cloud&Townsend's book 'Boundaries in Marriage' (published in 1999), which points to mutual submission.
All the good faith was a mask. Our enemies live within.
We're doing fine.
If the lifestyle and beliefs of Victoria Woodhull (and others like her) were fashioned into an honest and good quality movie, then younger folks could be woken up to a rigorous conversation about good vs evil underpinnings in their worldviews.
Thank you Prof Fiamengo for your straightforward presentation. I was enlightened.