Can Cheap Mini-LED HDR Be Good? - Cooler Master Tempest GP2711 Review
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00:00 - Intro, Specs, Design
02:47 - Does It Flicker?
03:45 - Response Time Performance
06:26 - Response Time Comparisons
08:28 - Backlight Strobing and UFO Tests
09:48 - Color Performance
12:12 - Brightness, Contrast, Uniformity
13:43 - HDR Performance
16:42 - HUB Essentials Checklist
17:17 - Final Thoughts
Can Cheap Mini-LED HDR Be Good? - Cooler Master Tempest GP2711 Review
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Have you ever considered testing like a 10 year old 144Hz TN panel just to see how far we've come? Obviously color gamut has improved tons but I have no idea how good or bad motion performance was back then for example. It might be an interesting one off comparison.
As well as the first 1440p Gsync IPS. The XB270HU was ~$800 in 2015. I wonder how it fares against IPS half the price these days.
2023 exists 500-540hz monitors from dell/alienware
Also CRT Testing would be great. Inhad a 120hz 19" Siemens Nixdorf Tube. That thing was Blazing fast and had great Res.
Just upgraded from a BenQ Zowie 2720 from 2016 to a AOC miniLED display (the one reviewed here a few weeks ago, can't be bothered to write the name down!), the difference between old TN and the new tech is simply astounding.
I knew that HDR and a wider color gamut would already be a huge improvement, but I still thought that motion clarity would be better on a background strobing TN. It is also better on the new VA panel, probably because of G-sync as well.
I tested my 2013 60hz TN, and this was a very fast panel of its time. The 60hz response time UFO test on a newer panel seems better but 24fps content like movies is better on the old TN, not even the fastest IPS or VA can make movies pan as smooth. But the picture quality of that old TN isn't all there.
Good content as always. Appreciate the straight forward analysis and reliable information.
This is the level of detail I love to see in a monitor review. I only buy once every 5-10 years so whatever I get had better be good... and it's fantastic to see all the potential pitfalls laid out so clearly!
Pfff, this is weak sauce compared to others
There's a chinese reviewer, has subtitles, but that guy, does 2-3 times more tests of mobitor factors, stuff I never thought existed but maybe matter to 0.001% people
youtube.com/@user-cl4bf9cn2f?si=U4jsOHEdWaXW59OW
If you get over the language barrier, now these are monitor reviews
Unbox does OK, butI have questions, did they use frewsync foe the dark smeara cuz I get that on my VA panel from dell but it only happens with freesync, I dunno, they don't specify
Great in-depth reviews like this is why I’ve been subscribed for years now.
Thank you for the work, and good review
Looking to purchase a Mini-Led monitor in the future so this was helpful
VRR and local dimming works without flickering on latest firmware for GP27U also
Thank you for your honesty and your clarity!
Apparently, the problem of aggressive black in HDR has been fixed by update
Let's hope you will be able to review KTC M27P20 Pro
We need more mini-led reviews in general as this could be a nice solution better than LCD without OLED's flaws.
Ktc is not available in europe at all
@@boi9433 I’m in Italy and its monitors are sold on Amazon
@@boi9433 I got it from poland, and it had shipping everywhere in eu. Same shit as geeksbuying.
@@boi9433in Italy Is available
@@boi9433Now it is
I like that monitors of this type are being made, I have just returned a Dell AW3423DWF due to the sub-pixel layout making the panel blurry compared to my LG 34GN850.
For modern VA panel you could test MSI 275CQRF-QD
Would love to see your review on it!
Tim Speaking about cheap, fast VA panels. In Europe we have aoc 25g3zm. It's a great display that only cost £175
Thanks for all your work! Do you think you can review the KTC M27T20! Cheers
I almost bought something like that (Cooler Master GM27-FQS). It became slightly more expensive so i changed my mind, and now Tim explained what i could expect. Thanks!
I guess I'll wait for cheap OLED or keep looking for a decent VA because I'd like to see some black colors after my current Acer XF240Q P.
I'm not playing competitive games anymore, so i don't need anything that fast by sacrificing colors and contrast.
@Joao_Mthat's why Mini-LED is so interesting, wish there were more decent devices available around the world with it. In my country the only choice is Samsung and their horrible quality control
@Joao_M the new MSI OLEDs launching in January have better panel care capabilities and going forward I'm guessing will apply to at least some other brands also.
I'm waiting until Q2 of 2024 before I considering any OLED panels. I'm not jumping into generation 1 devices for $800+ lmao
@Joao_Malrighty 7 months in for my Alienware aw3423dwf QD OLED ultrawide and no burn in lol every game is hella amazing 😅 probably too poor to afford it's all good man alrighty in like 30 games these past months
@@steve42069mastertoo poor to afford one 💀
I still don't feel like the tech is there yet. It's my hope that mini LED monitors really start to take off in the second half of 2024 and become much more usable and less quirky and problematic by sometime in 2025. I'd love to get one, and I will NOT use an OLED for my desktop, so for now it's just the waiting game for me.
why not use an oled for a desktop? i’m considering buying one
Great video! Good morning from the other side of globe
You should give a look at the acer nitro XV275UP3. The name is very similar to a monitor you have already reviewed but this one has full array local dimming (less than 400 zones) and a peak brightness of over 1000 nit. All this for less than 400€ which is kind of unheard of
I had 3 gp27q.
All 3 panels started to fall away from the panels.
The first one also had what looked like burn makes on a white screen, the worst backlight bleed I have ever see.
Second one was decent but both edges were coming away from the bezel.
Third one had 8 dead/stuck pixels on day one and the left edge was coming away from the bezel.
I would never even consider a cooler master monitor in the future.
Got an Alienware dwf after the third cooler master and for an extra £250 during a sale it’s not even close
My GP27q was bad too, and HDR on or off would require reboot if screen. Bad backlight bleed.
I've also been thinking f it and just get the Alienware. You enjoying it ? Better picture over the GP27q?
> All 3 panels started to fall away from the panels.
Uh huh...
@@frdsg8350 Of course DWF has a better picture. It's an OLED, it may have it's caveats but in terms of picture it's unmatched. Especially QD-OLED (with controlled/little ambient lighting).
Is this the same panel used for ktc m27t20?
That one has response times lf 5ms or less.
I'd love to see a review of the cheaper AOC and Acer miniLED monitors sold here in Europe. They seem very similar to this one. Thanks for the review!
@@noir-13because this display is brand new. it's not even released in North America yet.
@@noir-13 I can't recall where I saw it (and can't find it, so take this with a grain of salt), but I believe there was a comment that asked them why they haven't reviewed the AOC. Tim replied that it's not available/not economical to buy it yet in Australia, which is unfortunate. We'll have to see RTINGs upcoming review first I suppose; it's in early insider access for now.
How easy to use is the menu joystick if you have to use it from the bottom? Say you have another monitor to the side.
Can you review the XG49WCR? I was almost ready to pull the trigger on it but this review made me pause as both are VA panels. I would like to know how it handles motion.
lol pretty happy to see the lg 27gp83 beating the 27gr83q across almost all the data, except brightness and hrd
14:42 Sounds like good opportunity for a lamp above the monitor
I'm curious as to how it looks when using the Vivid software on MacOS
Can you please review the AOC AG405UXC and MSI MAG401QR ? For some reason they do not have proper reviews from anyone. Thanks.
Is this the same panel as on the KTC M27T20?
Can you review the INNOCN 32M2V? It's a 32" 1100 zone mini LED 4K monitor that's been going for $600 on sale recently and would love to get your review of it!
The KTC27T20 has basically the same specs but with much better response times and no EOTF issue. Black smearing is not noticeable at all (almost as good as samsung VA), and I’m very sensitive to it. It’s available for for the same price, but I was able to get it temporarily discounted to $350 which was an absolute steal, and I’m extremely satisfied with my purchase. Only Caveat is that the refresh rate is limited to 144 using VRR and local dimming, and you need to flash a firmware update to get the monitor in a useable state.
He should really check the ktc 27t20
Actually, the EOTF / greyscale tracking issue is present in the M27T20 as well. I've tested it on Phantom Liberty myself, had to switch to my AW3423DWF to play through dimmer sections.
Hi. Maybe you can review AOC Q27G3XMN/BK? It's kinda looking for reasonably priced monitor with mini led panel. Thanks
i've had the gp27q for a few months and use it alot for hdr and adaptive sycn and i haven't seen any flicking
Apparently firmware updates made a big difference with this one. Would be nice to see a comparison or a mention of that in the description.
I’ve used a Samsung VA monitor in the past and the dark smearing was obvious to me and I got rid of that monitor very quickly!
I personally would NEVER buy any VA panel again!
I’m very happy with my Cooler Master IPS Tempest HDR GP27U (4K) monitor is my end game monitor until a 4K HDR 360hz monitor is available and a GPU is capable of running AAA titles at 240fps+. That’s how happy I am with my Cooler Master 27U monitor! It does my SDR gaming extremely well, HDR gaming quite well, HDR BluRay playback extremely well & great fro my basic video editing needs. It’s bright during regular gaming sessions which brings life to games I didn’t get with non-mini led ips monitors in the past.
Hm have you retested the the old one with the newest firmware ?
You should review the Koorui 27E3QK which is probably the cheapest 1440p 240hz IPS panel
Thanks! All I want is a premium 27" 1440p or 4K monitor that's not OLED that's 240-360hz with superb HDR performance. Is it really that difficult? I just can't buy into OLED until all burn-in issues are resolved, same for TV's.
As a user of the GP27Q for over a year now, I’ve never had these flickering issues you refer to and the latest firmware (1.4.1) fixed a couple of the issues it did have previously.
1.4.1 didn't fix the flickering for me
Panel would go blank when switching HDR on or off. Latest firmware, had to return.
How'd you get this in for review so far in advance of launch?
I purchased the Cooler Master Tempest GP27U (4K HDR) 🤩🥳and updated the firmware myself (little fiddly but nothing mind numbing) and NEVER experienced any flickering issue with my monitor with the same settings as stated by Tim here!
Maybe Tim’s had the issue but I’ve had my GP27U monitor since launch 🚀and it’s been perfect💪👍😇 imo all this time. It offers awesome HDR and SDR 🤯🤩viewing and gaming and I’d recommend this monitor (GP27U) to anyone considering a new monitor purchase.
With some people in the comments mentioning that the GP27Q's flickering issue has been fixed, will you be revisiting it again?
I currently have an old superwide precursor to the Odyssey with VA tech and black smearing is noticable here too. VA and OLED seem to be the dominant techs at the moment, but both have flaws. I'd fork out the expensive premium for an OLED if I could guarantee it would not get burn in issues. In any case the price of OLED is hopefully set to come down in the next years as Pusan National University in Korea have developed some new chemical that makes them much cheaper to produce, so it's probably best to wait to buy a monitor right now.
Yes, oleds are great but they are expensive and have a relatively short lifespan if used daily. I can’t wait for Oleds to become cheaper and more prevalent.
IPS is still the best tech for daily use imo. IPS has better response times and better viewing angles compared to VA at the cost of contrast. Samsung is currently the only one with decent VA panels. OLED is better in every way, but at the cost of longevity.
I personally only use my QD-OLED monitor for gaming and leave it off for daily use and use my old IPS screens instead. But that does require VESA compatible monitor arms. Otherwise, your desk is a mess in that config.
i have the same Odyssey! i even tried the oled Odyssey and ended up replacing it with an alienware aw3224dwf and its honestly way better. no dumb smart tv bs and no remote just a beautiful color accurate fast snappy beautiful experience. plus i kept the old va Odyssey making both of best worlds when i dont want burn in over long periods of time playing
keep in mind oled burn in only happens over 4 months of the same picture. looking at the hardcore test of rtings
I want to add to the review of this monitor. I tried to setup triple 4k setup, however, only 2 monitors at a time were able to be connected while the 3rd monitor remained off. I checked around forums and found out the display port DSC function did not work properly. So, the monitor can only be used for single display or dual display mode. It is a very pretty monitor, but, the blooming artifacts really hurt my eyes. I tried to adjust settings, but, this was hard to do. I would suggest waiting for another year to see what happens in the OLED market, wait until prices come down , or wait to see if these mini-LED panels improve in their ability to be connected in a myriad of configurations. I did get the gigabyte m28u instead and although it has a softer showing in picture quality, it s 85-90% of the quality of the gp27u at nearly half the price. For this channel, a tutorial on how to tell if monitors can be made in triple monitor setups would be great. More importantly n how to spot these issues ahead of time before buying so we can also save our time, too. Overall, thisis the best channel for monitor reviews.
I wonder if this is identical to the KTC m27t20?
Hello, what can you say about Alienware AW2723DF 27?
@Monitors Unboxed why is no one reviewing AOC Q27G3XMN? It has less dimming zones than the KTC which seems to be the same display as this cooler master while some how looking way better..Best part is it’s only $280! I don’t understand why it has no attention
Never heard of it before this comment...
I would absolutely second this motion, but the only issue I see is that it doesn't appear to be in stock anywhere at the moment.
@@moldyshishkabob It may have sold out in many places during the week of Black Friday as it was on sale for $250(US) for many days.
AOC Q27G3XMN review? Its Mini LED VA with 336 zone in the US you can buy it for 280usd.
Is there a reason why companies dont seem to put QD layers on mini LED VA screens?
I know what Tim means by saying cheap HDR but cheap and $450 don’t mix to me 😅. Great review
How does the monitor look after the new update?
Can you check this monitor?
lg ultragear 32gq850-b
how do we even update firmware on monitors btw?
This is definitely another monitor that is actually manufactured by KTC for CM. Specs wise it seems to be the same as the KTC M27T20 which I have been asking you to review for months. However, the previous CMs also had the same design like their KTC counterparts, but this one is different. The M27T20 is measuring quite a bit better in terms of response times, though none of the reviews out there is from someone actually reputable enough. It is for a very similar price aswell.
I've also been trying to find a budget 1440p mini-LED HDR monitor and it seems that there could be a lot of promise with TCL panels (I'm not entirely sure on which monitors KTC is using them). There's a theory going around the Chinese internet that they managed to get their hands on Samsung's VA secret sauce when Samsung sold one of their Chinese panel factories to them and they've rebranded this as HVA. The AOC Q27G3XMN is using one of these HVA panels but its in a lower pricing bracket and only uses 376 dimming zones. Unfortunately no one seems to have reviewed it yet so its hard to know whether the anecdotal claims of excellent response time are actually true.
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm Rtings did a review on AOC, it's in early access now and should be live for everyone by the end of the week. Still waiting for KTC (2nd in the voting pipeline) to get reviewed.
I have been following the aoc monitors but waiting for it to be released and the reviews.
M27T20 suffers from the same greyscale tracking issue as this one as they use the same vendor for the VA panel and likely the same approach to local dimming.
Innocn 27g1s is the only VA I would consider for gaming.
The motion performance here is horrendous.
Imho Samsung are the only ones that don't have horrendous black smear issues with VA panels, problem is that their 1440p HDR line up is non-existent.
The latest Gigabyte VA is pretty good.
I'm on the GP27Q and it's a phenomenal monitor.
Since latest firmware update V1.4.1 no flickering.
The HDR is out of this world good with LD.
I was debating getting a GP27Q but was waiting to see if they'd address the flickering issues. I might have to revisit getting one.
@@MrCommunistGen honestly there's still an issue with switching between monitors with multi monitor setup, it's not critical but it is annoying.
If you're planing in using for single monitor, it's likely completely fine.
Ive got an OLED TV but I rate this monitor high. It's got a great quality to it
Can adaptive sync and hdr be turned on at the same time without problems?
@@amirmohammad527 yes both at same time.
Is there a 4K version of this monitor?
I think it would be interesting to test the KTC 1440p panel since it's a VA and combined with the mini led dimming zones it should be a better hdr experience
i had one and i just returned it. Basically unusable, vrr doesnt work at all and hdr has the same broken eotf/huge black crush to hide the horrendous dimming control. Pretty sure the backlight on this one is still from ktc with another panel.
CM is using KTC panels
@@lucidnonsense942 ktc doesnt make panels, they use panels from csot or innolux and put them on their custom backlight
@@lucidnonsense942 CM's GP27Q and GP27U is manufactured by KTC, but not using KTC panel (if there is one). I remember 27U is an AUO panel, and 27Q is an Innolux one. Not sure about 2711
Can you test the new GP2711 using GAME profile instead of your custom user profile while in HDR? It should fix the brightness issues instantly as using a USER profile for me on my GP27Q makes it too dark to play.
I really like the Cooler Master Mini-led HDR monitors but it's too dark to play some dark games like Sons of the Forest in Caves while in HDR HOWEVER I normally use a lightly calibrated custom setting but I noticed that when I stop using my custom profiles on the monitor and just use the GAME profile in HDR the brightness it significantly better, I tested in real HDR games with HDR vs SDR and yes you can see it's a genuine enhancement to both color and lighting. I tried Forspoken and Cyberpunk 2077 and prefer the HDR presentation.
I'm very happy with the GP27Q. I'm very sensitive to flickering, but didn't notice any so far. The newer firmware (I have 1.2, but 1.4.1 is the newest) seems to have corrected this issue. My unit shipped calibrated, including a sheet with the calibration results. Comparison with a calibrated monitor suggest a good calibration. Great monitor in my opinion.
Would be really nice if Monitors Unboxed could re-test GP27Q with newest firmware, 1 year later. I think they are too severe with a suspected issue that can't be reproduced in actual gaming. Otherwise I would be very happy to know!
Yup v1.4.1 fixed flickering for me also
Same on 1.2
Edit just did 1.4.1 and all seems good so far only flickering is sometimes in photo editing apps.
Didn't fix it for me :(
Mines on 1.4.1 and I do notice the flickering
Tho, it’s something I’m able to live with
Please review 27" Odyssey G50A QHD 😊
Tim, I really hope you will be able to review the AOC Q27G3XMN. VA panel, 180hz, FALD, and the ghosting on the panel I have is not bad at all.
I own this, too. I read a reddit post from someone who had terrible smearing/ghosting with their example of the same monitor, but mine has been real nice coming from an LG C1. At 336 zones for the price, the halo of the cursor on dark screens doesn't bother me at all in super dark areas and I never notice it, of course, in games at all. But I did have to cut off some of the brightness with Nvidia's gamma control (it's probably closer to 900 nits now rather than the 1110 MS's HDR config app shows) to bring the blacks down on the games I play that aren't exactly good examples of HDR mastering (even if they have an "HDR" mode).
Do you notice a different amount of black smearing at a higher or lower refresh rate? I think Blur Buster's UFO test is pretty useful for trying to spot this.
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm I don't. Someone with a camera set up to photograph blur may with the UFO test, though. I have an older VA, a nice one from 2019, that smeared like crazy until I did a lot of manual tweaking. This AOC, my owned example, looks better than even my C1 with the UFO test, specific ally. 180hz, HDR and local dimming (max) both on, and dynamic contrast also on. Only thing, that is a none issue for me, is when a game starts (HDR or AutoHDR) there is a very slight dimming/brightening happening on the loading screen, but it goes away once I start to play the game. I love HDR for games, but I've yet to play a Windows game that was actually mastered for HDR properly.
Where is review for asus rog swift 27 4k pg27uqr??
More MiniLED reviews pls. Like AOC Q27G3XMN and Acer XV275UP3. Finally mentioned how garbage edge lit is, regardless of HDR.
I would suggest doing the Blurbusters test at two different settings. At this point 960 (if that's the setting that you use) doesn't really help separate newer esports panels and really isn't representative of modern fast paced games like Fortnite/Overwatch/Apex, Overwatch especially. Perhaps 2400, as this is more in line with something like a Genji or Tracer dash.
Seems like this would be a good second monitor for gamers and not main monitor?
Tim I guess you don't have access to Iiyama monitors?
They have an amazing 21:9 g-master gb3467wqsu-b5.
Motion clarity at 165Hz is on par with Neo G7, and it cost £310 in UK.
If they used the latest ADS Pro display instead and if they could get around 2000:1 contrast + quantum dot then they could have made a almost perfect LCD...
For anyone interested, it's had a firmware update and it's still super slow, still has atrocious black smearing which is noticeable even on the desktop and web browsing, and the HDR is still really bad in dark games. Also the blooming/haloing with this monitor in game when viewed dead on is insane.
My gp27q dosent flicker with vrr and hdr. Got it for 450$ during black friday
love how we never get this stuff in the UK. Seriously there have been so many monitors that have came out in mini LED and OLED and so many do not come to here at all... And its usually the cheaper models. Not that I am in the market for any as I have had the AW3423DW for over a year now but its nice to see cheaper mini LED and OLEDs becoming available.
I feel that pain. Computer hardware (GPUS, Monitors) in general is dogshit here in the UK. Price is always the same as the US dollar amount despite their weaker currency, and availability even at the shit price is either flakey or 0. And god forbid you try and ship it from the US and get customs charge you a small fortune for the pleasure of receiving the product you paid for, and the £30 shipping fee. I think US and even mainland EU just see the UK as an irrelevant island, and i guess they’re not wrong.
@@H94R yup we get fucked over hard. Sure we can get amazing deals as well but often times... they are better in the US. And like I said so many good monitors do not come out here at all. Which sucks. Could be worse I guess though... we could be Australia where everything is banned and they have to pay with their kidneys.
Brazil is worse.But this time it seems we dodged a bullet.
@@noir-13 Yeah we get the standard stuff. The awf is usually on sale for £750 which is great, I have the none F version so again I am not in the market for it. But its rare we get these mini leds that cost around $650. Heck a lot of 1440p panels that are around the $350 mark are around £350 to £500 here... which is stupid. Also for £750 I wouldnt buy the LG one at all.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 Man, it's REALLY rough in Brazil. I've had a guy describe the situation to me and it's like todays Russia, which is already very bad, but at least three times worse. I feel for you, folks...
how have you not reviewed the D4K Samsung 57" G9 yet?
EXACTLY! Or even the any of the 49 inch 5120 x 1440p OLED monitors available.
please review the KTC G27P6
KTC M27T20 has the exact same backlight and same problems on US firmware. Newest EU firmware though (which can be also installed without any problems on US model of the monitor) fixes HDR issues and doesn't have VRR flickering in SDR nor with local dimming, just like GP2711. Maybe you should contact Cooler Master and ask them to cooperate with KTC for the latest firmware? They're almost the same monitors after all (GP2711 seems to have a bit worse response times and much higher peak brightness (1600 nits compared to 1000 on KTC)).
Which version of the firmware are you referring to? I have 2.0.3A EU and it has all the HDR greyscale tracking issues as this one?
Dell UltraSharp U2724D, 27" with IPS Black panel might be worth a look.
120hz, 2000:1 contrasts, precalibrated 100%SRGB, WQHD, but 5ms reaction time.
Sounds like a solid monitor for casual gaming and editing work in SRGB.
It’s trash. Terrible backlight bleed
@@samven582 Sad to hear, if correct.
@@CptApplestrudl backlight bleed is expected for any LCD monitor tho. The amount of backlight bleed will vary from every production, i haven't seen a lcd display that has no backlight bleed
I'd really like to see a proper review of this display, seems like a dream office gaming combo with the 120hz and vrr support.
@@keonxd8918 the LG 27GR93U-B doesn't have any but it has terrible white uniformity
this could be interesting since for some reason I don't really notice smearing, now I have to see how much it will cost in europe since for now I can't even find it online.
Edit: nevermind I got to the part about bad hdr tuning for low brightness
Still waiting for the perfect monitor. The review of the AOC Q27G3XMN is amost out from rtings. The response time looks good enough and let's check if the HDR experience is good. I find hardware unboxed review more useful but he doesnt have the time and Australian availability is different to Europe/USA to test all monitors out there xD.
I’ve had this for a week and it looks really good. In SDR the haloing is not good but I just turn local dimming of for normal work flow. For HDR with local dimming it looks amazing with almost no haloing. Need to try some super dark content though. I’m interested in the rtings review
@@woltergrant I leave the local dimming off while in SDR mode and it turns on automatically when I switch to HDR mode in Windows 11 (Nvidia GPU). I do, however (at least for now) have the Dynamic Contrast Ration *on* in SDR mode, but I'm probably gonna turn that off else I'll eventually need sunglasses to read websites at night...
My first game display was an LG CX 48” OLED. So, I don’t know what bad HDR is like.
My standards are high now because of the LG CX 48". Has to be OLED or nothing.
I like the blacks VA offer, but if you play any dark games like hunt showdown it's a horrible experience, tried the new cheaper AOC and the neo G7, sent both back! Just bought the AOC 27inch oled.
Was it the AOC Q27G3XMN that you sent back? What did you not like about it? How does the OLED compare
@woltergrant colors are off, grainy mat coating, horrible black smearing on dark objects. Yes it was the Q27G3XMN, you get what you pay for! There is a reason it cost 259$ In bright games its probably fine, but I play alot of games that have shadows or in woods and I can't handle that black smearing. OLED or IPS all the way! OLED has no black smearing at all...
I wish you'd review other miniLED monitors aside from Samsung and Cooler Master
4K, HRR, 32" mini-LED is the dream (until they figure out subpixel placement in OLEDs)
That asus Tn monitor is real? It has awesome specs for a tn.
Would be really nice if you guys could test the KTC M32P10. 32 inch/4K/1156 Local Dimming Zones
Yes real
The Y-axis of the UFO test needs a label.
Seems like it can get pretty great if they spend some more time tuning the software.
darn. maybe the next one will be good
TBH, the Samsung G7 Neo can go as low as 650$. You get much better response, more dimming zones and a higher refresh rate/better panel.
Was waiting & watching this one, oh well, maybe a more established brand will do better with this panel.
So, just buy the AOC Q27G3XMN, then?
You'd think the makers of a HDR monitor might test it in a couple of dark HDR-friendly games before sending it out for release 😢
I had the same thought multiple times about various issues each time they released firmware for the GP27Q earlier in the year. They said it worked fine on their hardware.
CM announced a 240hz model during Computex. Hopefully all these issues doesn't carry over to that model.
Is not anymore in their sites...i think coolermaster terminated it
I wish you guys can test Koorui's 1440p240hz monitors, 27E3QK(ips) and Gn10(VA)
Just got the GN10 and it does have a bit of blooming and issues with the audio, as well as flickering when HDR and adaptive sync were both on. However it is a very solid monitor for the price point
@@ggboi1837 Have you tested doing testufo and hear coil whine? Hisses more than my active speakers 😅. Consumer rights suck in my country, I wish I could refund and Im probably gonna buy the Asus VG27AQM1A (1440p260hz) tho I am not seeing much reviews
I'm pretty disappointed. Why use such a slow VA panel? What was Cooler Master thinking?
I guess they were going for: lots of local dimming zones and high HDR brightness at a low price. But with the dark smearing issues I can't see this giving a good experience in gaming. Could be a decent content consumption panel for > = 60fps content though.
For when the review of the redmagic gaming monitor, it's a mini-led 4k 27inch with 5k local dimming zones
With a HDR 1000 certification
I would be really hyped to see monitor unboxed review it
Acer 275k dominates the mini led game right now. review it
Great video Tim! Just like how OLED isn't interesting while burn in is a possibility; I like the idea of mini-LED/micro-LED panels, but until they can make each pixel dimmable to remove halos from the wonky zones is when they will have a product I'd like to buy. By that point they may have been able to fix the burn in issue on OLED panels. For me OLEDs are like plasmas my dad had a plasma tv. It's great for what it is at the time, but has sacrificed long term life. You can't expect to use an OLED for 10 years where as a garbage IPS can (assuming something doesn't break along the way). Nobody normally chooses to stick with their old tech, but when hard times come and you need the option longevity matters. Also, I try to avoid falling into the modern consumerism traps and companies typically fall short in the execution to price ratio for me.
I wish someone would just release a relatively cheap 4k60 FALD panel for movies and sightseeing games.
I'd rather have my responsiveness and high framerates and insane contrast on different monitors than pay 2-3x the price to have both on one monitor, or pay the same for an OLED and have to replace it every 2-3 years.
The monitor looks so good on paper, but the response times are unusable for faster paced gameplay and the hdr really needs a lot of tuning. I can't buy it like this unfortunately...
Yeah... CoolerMaster is not getting how to enter the monitor market. Had the GP27Q. It had WAY too many issues as well, had to leave.
Cooler Master is marketing monitors now? Was the industry, and certainly the PC enthusiast, better served when companies didn't think they needed to market every piece of the machine, and we had a higher degree of specialization. Sure, having a lot of options can be good, but it can also be debilitating: paralysis by analysis. Might make a good podcast topic.
Why are Mini LED response times worse than standard backlit displays? We have also seen this with Apple. Theoretically, LEDs should have instant response. Is there a processing power requirement for it?
Because it needs way more processing to analyze the image and tinker with the backlight zones.