I watched this video and understood your advice, but I ended up buying a roll to see if my camera's shutter was fully opening every frame and to see if my developing technique was proper enough to get full coverage on the film. As it turned out, the shutter was fine and my technique was not, so now I have a test roll! Thanks for the great work you guys do!
I shot an undated K25 (k14) process back in 2020 at iso 6 and developed it in caffenol. I could tell it was a super old roll, but in the end i got reasonably decent (albeit maybe one stop under exposed) images. Now... I was gifted a 1980 expired Kodachrome type a film that I want to try when the weather turns...
Awesome video. Great comparisons there and nice insights :) seeing this in 2020 is neat. Might as well just shoot some fresh stuff but still quite fascinating to know it CAN be done
Ha! In my opinion bad black and white is just bad. A friend gave me a big box of old film he picked up somewhere - it is fun to shoot the C41 and see what happens - color shifts and grain can look cool or at the least instantly vintage. ...but there was some old TMax in there and it just comes out bland. I probably will only use some of it to test old cameras.
Thank you for providing bracketed, for lack of a better term, examples of what old film developed today could look like; very helpful in deciding to go forward with submitting some such films to y'all for development.
Would like to clarify doing any film as a negative will produce more grain. Done in reversal the grain becomes finer, that’s why I do it as reversal. I can process it myself, it’s far cheaper and I get awesome results.
I didn't realize that I had an undeveloped Super 8 film cartridge. My father had to have done this is the 60's. Can you give me any suggestions on where I could send it to try to get it developed?
Undeveloped 8mm Kodachrome is on a roll that is 25 ft and 16mm in width. Developed Kodachrome is 8mm in width and is on a 50 ft roll. Explained here: ruclips.net/video/wbI_PodRzM8/видео.html
Hey Mike, Well done, even though I do enjoy shooting film it would be fun to shoot a roll of 8mm again. It is a shame about Kodachrome, I've got slides from 1945 that have been stored in a Carousel 40 slide tray for 75 years and look like they were shot yesterday. Regards Tom
Hello. We develop Kodachrome in FPP-110 BW developer (the formula for color ended in 2010). Using C-41 or E6 developer will strip the emulsion off of the film. Our blog (scroll down for the FPP-110 formula) - filmphotographyproject.com/will-develop-kodachrome-film-shoot-expired-kodachrome/
My grandfather left me a 16mm Bolex with two rolls of film (expired in 1953 & 1959). I figure they were sitting in his garage for about 60 years in New York State. Do you think I'll have any luck developing them?
What can I do if I have an old family kodachrome with film already loaded in it, but not sure 1) if there's viable footage on it, and 2) if so, how to unload it safely. I also have a 8mm brownie movie projector, what do I do with that? Is it possible to take out the film from the camera and put it right onto the projector to see? Help a millennial out. Thanks for any info
Hi. See our video on "How to Load Double 8" - this will tell you how the cameras work so you can see if the film in your camera is shot or not. All film needs to be developed for looking at in light...so no images til the film is developed.
If the film is in the camera, it has not yet been developed. If you find an old camera with film in it it is probably old Kodachrome. Processing for Kodachrome ended in 2010.
@@FilmPhotographyProject The film is in its original box. The owner wouldn't open the box but the box has been opened before. I wasn't sure if there was a way, after opening the box which is not sealed and has been opened, to tell by the roll of it is undeveloped still or developed
ISO 3 😂 I got a bunch of expired film with some of this film included, I'm loading it onto cameras and testing how it comes out. I'll try to remember to report back :) I love long exposures so like ISO is perfect! 🤘
if i want to develop kodachrome ii film as b/w is treated like 35mm regular film or is there some differences? it was a free film still in the box and i couldn't help but try it out.
@@FilmPhotographyProject relinking the video isn't really helpful.. for anyone interested in developing film this thread linked below should get you on the right track. the super 8 group on facebook is also really helpful so I'm going keep researching because i think the final word isn't really the final word.. "don't do it" would be true of all film absolutely would result in nothing but black.. but clearly it's not the case even in this video. it can work and could even produce some desirable effects for the right film maker.. good luck everyone. www.photrio.com/forum/threads/super-8mm-can-it-be-developed-at-home.160388/?fbclid=IwAR2Yci7DushRGVnRY2fDnHKk24qdQCk1rAfL1LvAIgzJSQTNJwGvL5E9wZo
Its a shame when Kodak stopped processing Kodachrome that it actually didn't public domain and actually spell out the basic chemical makeup of its method of developing it so others know the real recipe. Im guessing they didn't for the specific point that they want to cover any possibility of a chance, no matter how slim, of it coming back so they can protect their intellectual property
lmao the details of the chemicals involved are actually well known. it’s just not feasible for one person or even a company to build the necessary setup with 8+ individual chemical tanks and 3+ light processing stations.
We have times for HC-110 - scroll down to the bottom of the blog - filmphotographyproject.com/content/howto/2020/02/will-develop-kodachrome-film-shoot-expired-kodachrome/ (sorry, no times for D76)
I bought some Kodachrome because I was trying to find film for my super 8 that I could afford and it showed up on eBay. It was unopened and in great condition but it was really cheap... I thought I’d just gotten a good deal but then I did my research... 😓
Emily, if the kodachrome development done to the right specs still existed, most likely even if the film had been out of date for years, the result would have been very good. Developing kodachrome today with other systems is not advisable. For the super 8 today it is better to buy new films from other brands, perhaps in black and white.
If you're interested, I have an unopened Kodachrome 16mm magazine of Kodachrome 25, it is complete in box but the box is slightly damaged. Contact me and we can work something out. I bought it in 2008 but it has been kept in cool dark closets since then. I just found it and then found your video, and subscribed. It has been through an airport X ray machine once because I bought it from the US and I live in Canada. Anyway, it could make a good video.
I picked up three Super 8 cartridges of Kodachrome 40 for ten quid and am going to totally ignore your advice. I can process my own film so my only expense is scanning. What's the worst that can happen?!
Q: What's the worst that can happen?! A: No picture (black) - On the bright side Kodachrome 40 has resulted in better pictures than Kodachrome II film! - Mike
I understand that the tools to make and develop Kodachrome no longer exists. However, this is not the same as the specifications of the process being lost. There has to be patents, records, and notes on everything Kodachrome somewhere. Does Eastman Kodak really not have anything left? It makes more sense that Kodak isn't going to try and bring back Kodachrome, but it should let someone else do it. If there is no money to be made in an obsolete process, open source it! This is the United States of America, you provide the plans for all the parts of a B-29 somebody will figure it out and build one. Even if some of the tooling doesn't exist anymore, we have brilliant people who can make the tools that make the tools! There is a market for a product that no longer exists, so give the people willing to bring it to the public the tools to make it happen. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had the resurgence in new vinyl records or cassette tapes. Hell, the price of film cameras has grown exponentially in the last few years when everyone said film is dead. Dumpsters filled with film camera now selling for hundreds of dollars.
They have the recipes and everything, the issue was that the EPA banned some of the ingredients for being carcinogenic and environmentally harmful. Kodak would have to do what they had to do with Ektachrome and reformulate it to replace the chemicals that they no longer have access to. It would cost a lot of time and money in research and development on a film that used a proprietary process different from other films, and since it was less than 1% of Kodak revenue in the mid-2000s Kodak decided to retire the film rather than reformulate it. There is some interest in bringing it back, but the task of completely rebuilding the entire infrastructure for manufacturing and processing that film makes it currently unviable.
@@1987VCRProductions True - but don't gloss over the fact that it also took a much more complex process to develop. It is way more complicated than just reformulating the chemicals.
Tim Fitzwater Yes, it was a complex process that required its own machines to manufacture and process. Since it was retired all of that was dismantled, so all of that infrastructure would need to be rebuilt, all for one film stock.
There is at least one person, in Australia I think, who was able to develop Kodachrome slide film in color. It was an extremely complicated and expensive process. The color he got was far from perfect and he substituted for for some chemicals that can no longer be obtained. If there was real money to be made, I'm sure someone would be doing it. Besides, any existing Kodachrome film is at least over 10 years old. I'm just glad we have EKtachrome back, that's the "easy ' one and it is quite expensive itself.
@@thomasmurray9249 Kelly-Shane Fuller is the guy, I believe he lives in Oregon. He did at one point offer Kodachrome color processing but had to quickly stop after a few weeks because he was inundated with rolls of it. I think by the time he called it off he was sent close to 1,000 rolls, keep in mind that it takes him about 2 hours to process a single roll since he lacks the machinery and does it all by hand. His process changes slightly per roll because it's such a finicky process that some rolls come out fine and others given the same treatment do not. This info I got from an interview he did last September: studioc41.libsyn.com/he-reverse-engineered-kodachrome
Hey Mike, Well done, even though I do enjoy shooting film it would be fun to shoot a roll of 8mm again. It is a shame about Kodachrome, I've got slides from 1945 that have been stored in a Carousel 40 slide tray for 75 years and look like they were shot yesterday. Regards Tom
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I would be so happy with that footage 20 years from now.
The irony of a color film being promoted via a B&W advertisement.
Look up the word irony. You clearly don't know the meaning.
I watched this video and understood your advice, but I ended up buying a roll to see if my camera's shutter was fully opening every frame and to see if my developing technique was proper enough to get full coverage on the film. As it turned out, the shutter was fine and my technique was not, so now I have a test roll! Thanks for the great work you guys do!
Thank you for showing examples at different ages of film, it was great to see the comparison!
I shot an undated K25 (k14) process back in 2020 at iso 6 and developed it in caffenol. I could tell it was a super old roll, but in the end i got reasonably decent (albeit maybe one stop under exposed) images.
Now... I was gifted a 1980 expired Kodachrome type a film that I want to try when the weather turns...
Great video explaining
Awesome video. Great comparisons there and nice insights :) seeing this in 2020 is neat. Might as well just shoot some fresh stuff but still quite fascinating to know it CAN be done
Mike, you do realize that I will probably, despite your valid warnings, shoot at least 1 roll. lol.
Ha! In my opinion bad black and white is just bad. A friend gave me a big box of old film he picked up somewhere - it is fun to shoot the C41 and see what happens - color shifts and grain can look cool or at the least instantly vintage. ...but there was some old TMax in there and it just comes out bland. I probably will only use some of it to test old cameras.
I shoot kodachrome super 8 all the time and develop it in B&W reversal with awesome contrast results, dense blacks and good highlights.
Thank you for providing bracketed, for lack of a better term, examples of what old film developed today could look like; very helpful in deciding to go forward with submitting some such films to y'all for development.
Kodak really needs to bring Kodachrome back.
Would like to clarify doing any film as a negative will produce more grain. Done in reversal the grain becomes finer, that’s why I do it as reversal. I can process it myself, it’s far cheaper and I get awesome results.
Tell me how to DIY it as I do a lot of reversal b & w
thank you
I have 2 rolls of processed Kodachrome color movie film.
How can I get these saved as digital?
spectrafilmandvideo.com/lab/ - scroll down to "Old Movie Film Custom Processing"
Amazing video! It is really interesting to see the results!
What's the chemistry you use to process Kodachrome
Kodak HC-110
I didn't realize that I had an undeveloped Super 8 film cartridge. My father had to have done this is the 60's. Can you give me any suggestions on where I could send it to try to get it developed?
www.filmrescue.com/old-movie-film-developing/
I just bought some old Kodachrome and how can I tell if it’s developed ? I haven’t opened it yet and I want to look at some of the frames
Undeveloped 8mm Kodachrome is on a roll that is 25 ft and 16mm in width. Developed Kodachrome is 8mm in width and is on a 50 ft roll. Explained here: ruclips.net/video/wbI_PodRzM8/видео.html
@@FilmPhotographyProject mine is 8mm in width so I can look at it ? The writing in the box says world fair
attractively exciting
I am getting a Kodak Brownie Fun saver movie camera today
Enjoy shooting! How to load vid on our channel.
Hey Mike, Well done, even though I do enjoy shooting film it would be fun to shoot a roll of 8mm again. It is a shame about Kodachrome, I've got slides from 1945 that have been stored in a Carousel 40 slide tray for 75 years and look like they were shot yesterday. Regards Tom
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Hello do you process 8mm kodakchorom in C-41 or ECN-2 , please advise, I have few roll and I am planing to experiment at home. Thanks
Hello. We develop Kodachrome in FPP-110 BW developer (the formula for color ended in 2010). Using C-41 or E6 developer will strip the emulsion off of the film. Our blog (scroll down for the FPP-110 formula) - filmphotographyproject.com/will-develop-kodachrome-film-shoot-expired-kodachrome/
My grandfather left me a 16mm Bolex with two rolls of film (expired in 1953 & 1959). I figure they were sitting in his garage for about 60 years in New York State. Do you think I'll have any luck developing them?
We can try. filmphotographystore.com/collections/fpp-scanning-services/products/process-scan-service-16mm-super-16-100-ft-rolls
What can I do if I have an old family kodachrome with film already loaded in it, but not sure 1) if there's viable footage on it, and 2) if so, how to unload it safely. I also have a 8mm brownie movie projector, what do I do with that? Is it possible to take out the film from the camera and put it right onto the projector to see? Help a millennial out. Thanks for any info
Hi. See our video on "How to Load Double 8" - this will tell you how the cameras work so you can see if the film in your camera is shot or not. All film needs to be developed for looking at in light...so no images til the film is developed.
Can you make a video about shooting old E6 Super 8 film. I have plenty of them from the 80s and even 90s. Agfa, Revue and Kodak.
Yes! - ruclips.net/video/IsxCqCXFAXQ/видео.html
Do we get now Kodak codocrome
How do you know if it's developed or not?
It says on the filmphotography page that they only accept 100 foot rolls and kodachrome is not one of them listed. Do you run that lab by any chance?
If the film is in the camera, it has not yet been developed. If you find an old camera with film in it it is probably old Kodachrome. Processing for Kodachrome ended in 2010.
@@FilmPhotographyProject
The film is in its original box. The owner wouldn't open the box but the box has been opened before. I wasn't sure if there was a way, after opening the box which is not sealed and has been opened, to tell by the roll of it is undeveloped still or developed
I have a kodak brownie 8mm camera. Would’ve loved to use Kodachrome but obviously doesn’t look promising! Can I use something else like super 8?
Kodachrome no more - consider a new, fresh roll of film - filmphotographystore.com/collections/movie-film/double-8
ISO 3 😂 I got a bunch of expired film with some of this film included, I'm loading it onto cameras and testing how it comes out. I'll try to remember to report back :)
I love long exposures so like ISO is perfect! 🤘
The only reason to bother would be if you had some rolls that had something important on them that you didn't have anywhere else in my opinion.
Picked up a roll of kodachrome for 50 cents at a thrift store, it'll cost me around 115 to get developed lmaoo
nice
Weird I just got a bunch developed for 65$ per film
Details please to help others. Developed as BW? Where?
Me pulling up to the shoot with iso 1😂
if i want to develop kodachrome ii film as b/w is treated like 35mm regular film or is there some differences? it was a free film still in the box and i couldn't help but try it out.
ruclips.net/video/l0SyMeFVFLc/видео.html
@@FilmPhotographyProject relinking the video isn't really helpful.. for anyone interested in developing film this thread linked below should get you on the right track. the super 8 group on facebook is also really helpful so I'm going keep researching because i think the final word isn't really the final word.. "don't do it" would be true of all film absolutely would result in nothing but black.. but clearly it's not the case even in this video. it can work and could even produce some desirable effects for the right film maker.. good luck everyone. www.photrio.com/forum/threads/super-8mm-can-it-be-developed-at-home.160388/?fbclid=IwAR2Yci7DushRGVnRY2fDnHKk24qdQCk1rAfL1LvAIgzJSQTNJwGvL5E9wZo
Its a shame when Kodak stopped processing Kodachrome that it actually didn't public domain and actually spell out the basic chemical makeup of its method of developing it so others know the real recipe. Im guessing they didn't for the specific point that they want to cover any possibility of a chance, no matter how slim, of it coming back so they can protect their intellectual property
lmao the details of the chemicals involved are actually well known. it’s just not feasible for one person or even a company to build the necessary setup with 8+ individual chemical tanks and 3+ light processing stations.
what times do you recomend in d-76 ?😂😬
We have times for HC-110 - scroll down to the bottom of the blog - filmphotographyproject.com/content/howto/2020/02/will-develop-kodachrome-film-shoot-expired-kodachrome/ (sorry, no times for D76)
I bought some Kodachrome because I was trying to find film for my super 8 that I could afford and it showed up on eBay. It was unopened and in great condition but it was really cheap... I thought I’d just gotten a good deal but then I did my research... 😓
Emily, if the kodachrome development done to the right specs still existed, most likely even if the film had been out of date for years, the result would have been very good. Developing kodachrome today with other systems is not advisable. For the super 8 today it is better to buy new films from other brands, perhaps in black and white.
If you're interested, I have an unopened Kodachrome 16mm magazine of Kodachrome 25, it is complete in box but the box is slightly damaged. Contact me and we can work something out. I bought it in 2008 but it has been kept in cool dark closets since then. I just found it and then found your video, and subscribed. It has been through an airport X ray machine once because I bought it from the US and I live in Canada. Anyway, it could make a good video.
I picked up three Super 8 cartridges of Kodachrome 40 for ten quid and am going to totally ignore your advice. I can process my own film so my only expense is scanning. What's the worst that can happen?!
Q: What's the worst that can happen?! A: No picture (black) - On the bright side Kodachrome 40 has resulted in better pictures than Kodachrome II film! - Mike
@@FilmPhotographyProject I have three rolls. If the first one is a dud I can pass on the other two!
* I just sent you an email today on developing Kodachrome 40, if your able to touch base with me soon ! *
Guys, i found a cartridge of Kodachrome need help with this:)
ruclips.net/video/l0SyMeFVFLc/видео.html
I understand that the tools to make and develop Kodachrome no longer exists. However, this is not the same as the specifications of the process being lost. There has to be patents, records, and notes on everything Kodachrome somewhere.
Does Eastman Kodak really not have anything left? It makes more sense that Kodak isn't going to try and bring back Kodachrome, but it should let someone else do it. If there is no money to be made in an obsolete process, open source it!
This is the United States of America, you provide the plans for all the parts of a B-29 somebody will figure it out and build one. Even if some of the tooling doesn't exist anymore, we have brilliant people who can make the tools that make the tools!
There is a market for a product that no longer exists, so give the people willing to bring it to the public the tools to make it happen. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had the resurgence in new vinyl records or cassette tapes. Hell, the price of film cameras has grown exponentially in the last few years when everyone said film is dead. Dumpsters filled with film camera now selling for hundreds of dollars.
They have the recipes and everything, the issue was that the EPA banned some of the ingredients for being carcinogenic and environmentally harmful. Kodak would have to do what they had to do with Ektachrome and reformulate it to replace the chemicals that they no longer have access to. It would cost a lot of time and money in research and development on a film that used a proprietary process different from other films, and since it was less than 1% of Kodak revenue in the mid-2000s Kodak decided to retire the film rather than reformulate it. There is some interest in bringing it back, but the task of completely rebuilding the entire infrastructure for manufacturing and processing that film makes it currently unviable.
@@1987VCRProductions True - but don't gloss over the fact that it also took a much more complex process to develop. It is way more complicated than just reformulating the chemicals.
Tim Fitzwater Yes, it was a complex process that required its own machines to manufacture and process. Since it was retired all of that was dismantled, so all of that infrastructure would need to be rebuilt, all for one film stock.
There is at least one person, in Australia I think, who was able to develop Kodachrome slide film in color. It was an extremely complicated and expensive process. The color he got was far from perfect and he substituted for for some chemicals that can no longer be obtained. If there was real money to be made, I'm sure someone would be doing it. Besides, any existing Kodachrome film is at least over 10 years old. I'm just glad we have EKtachrome back, that's the "easy ' one and it is quite expensive itself.
@@thomasmurray9249 Kelly-Shane Fuller is the guy, I believe he lives in Oregon. He did at one point offer Kodachrome color processing but had to quickly stop after a few weeks because he was inundated with rolls of it. I think by the time he called it off he was sent close to 1,000 rolls, keep in mind that it takes him about 2 hours to process a single roll since he lacks the machinery and does it all by hand. His process changes slightly per roll because it's such a finicky process that some rolls come out fine and others given the same treatment do not. This info I got from an interview he did last September: studioc41.libsyn.com/he-reverse-engineered-kodachrome
I do K-40 super 8 in reversal myself and get much nicer blacks than this without a scan.
Hey Mike, Well done, even though I do enjoy shooting film it would be fun to shoot a roll of 8mm again. It is a shame about Kodachrome, I've got slides from 1945 that have been stored in a Carousel 40 slide tray for 75 years and look like they were shot yesterday. Regards Tom
Koda can still be processed there's apparently a few labs that are still processing it in Asia I've heard