It gets better: If you have the villain tag but not the hero tag, have 6 persuasion and chose to release the deathfog on arx, you can also persuade Bracchus to quit. Given that you don't fight anyone this or the other way but Dallis and Lucian still let you decide the world's fate, I imagine that your magnificient speech awed them into letting you just do whatever you want.
That's pretty amazing that you can get to the end of the game and just be like, "Give up! I'm a Hero who's hands are free of blood and sin, you don't stand a chance!" and the BBEG just folds.
Yeah there’s even a different end game slide for this ending too. He just basically decides to never show up again it says. The dude was happy to be content as a normal guy maybe 😂
@@runtergerutscht4401 Correction. "I have made my way through deathly dangers, challenges and unspeakable evil without ever having bloodied my hands, my conscience is pure and my will is unbreakable, for how would otherwise a man of such a peaceful soul be able to reach this far, if not for a Will that can rival that of the gods?!"
I almost quit right there lol but I was like ugh I can't just throw all that away... I write my initial script while playing and had all that recording and scripted and to throw it all away would have been even worse than not restarting lol
@@ProxyGateTactician I'm very glad you didn't quit. The humor and the jokes were on-point and the dedication to start over is just incredible. Absolutely love the vid!
Always love to see more DoS2 appreciation in the world! It always surprises me that 7 years after playing the game, I'm still learning about new dialogue. That was the first time I've seen someone walk the path of blood organically without hirelings + watch Vredeman just give up. Cheers :D
A cheap way to get past that is just to get a Hireling, any fresh new Hireling. They instantly pass the Pure test and get you into the tomb. I don't think they can get you past the final fight with the Hero+Pure+Pursuation route though.
Pretty sure he cheated the path of blood. He show'd himself stealing on his first character, so I doubt he didn't on the second. And stealing disables path of blood
@@orionweiss5418 Nah if you look on the left any time he's pickpocketing it's with Fane, and the bit where he shows a character stealing while explaining the Path of Blood is from some other playthrough.
Fane feigning death is a good one. Also the little part with your character sleeping and you editing in footage for his dream was cute. Creative little touches like that are awesome. Your ability to come up with these runs and then somehow find a way to complete them, while having it all edited and narrated in a concise, entertaining and insightful way truly makes you the champion of gaming champions. To be honest I would not have minded if the video was a little longer and more detailed but I understand that everyone has their own preferences for that sort of thing and you must have been quite eager to get the video out after completing such a daunting run. Well done!
Yeah I know what u mean I always have my first cut around 20-25 min and edit out a lot because in the end it’s kind of boring to watch me sneak past enemies 30 times in different areas or pickpocket everyone forever. Try to avoid too much repetition in what is happening but maybe I’ll try making longer ones in the future to see if people like it more. I get a lot of requests for it
I attempted this challenge way back and got stuck on Act 3 too. Funnily enough I used every tactic you did. Stealing the wand to free Slane, forcing Gareth to fight Alexander (and being surprised they could win) and only doing non-violent quests to progess and level up. Originally I thought to make a really tanky character since there's a stat that reflects all damage you take back to the enemy. I didn't test it because I was so heartbroken that I had to fight the source titan that I gave up on the challenge. Thanks for proving that it would've been possible, even if my tanky idea is still untested.
Unfortunately, the retribution damage counts as your kill if someone dies to it. Usually the AI doesn't hit you if it will kill them, but sometimes they crit. It's also tough bc you can only ever get 20 points of retribution (100% reflection) with unmodded gear, unless there's some lategame items I don't know about. And in the end the game won't let you pass the trial of blood anyways. You might be able to get really tricky with the bleed fire skill, where you proc fire around you after you get hit... idk, it would be tricky to make a working build, but not impossible
I would NEVER have thought about increasing the telekinesis range or that it would even be able to go that far. Or that the best option would be to throw the transporter pyramid across the water.
Amazing you took my suggestion at heart. Pretty nice to see a real pacifism run. 27 hours of gameplay, resume in 17 minutes. Worth every second. Nice one.
Oh my god, I never knew about the ending! I always try to get both Hero and Villian for maximum amount of options available, its crazy this is an option!! Over 700 hours in Dos2, and I never knew. Awesome stuff! More Dos2 content please :D
Yours is the only channel I care to watch about Divinity or BG3 (or any game runs honestly haha). So original and skillful. I love it! Please give us more
I ve never played this game nor do I know the story or tricks like I know some in BG3 but your narrative skills and small yet effective explanations make this awsome. I love your challenge runs so no matter the game I ll def watch them
Proxy, this was INCREDIBLE! I have avoided watching this vid, since I have not played DOS2, but I am SO glad I did. This was a monumental triumph, and I actually cheered when you brought the Hero tag back in the end!
I started playing again after i got my switch and realized i remember nothing you and other youtubers who still make content for this game are what makes my day.
The dedication is insane. He could have cheated in the barrels using a save editor but instead he decided to play it all again for the consistency. Respect
I'm so glad I can watch your videos about Divinity: Original Sin II. I tried to go back to it, but every time I try, I bounce off and go back to Baldur's Gate III.
I'm worried this will happen to me. I played DOS2 years back but I never got past the first city, but I've got over 300+ hours in BG3. I want to go back and play DOS2 eventually
Necessity breeds innovation! It's amazing that you can pull this off *and* be rewarded for it. I love the lizard designs in this game so I might give it a try, but I still haven't beaten act 1 in BG3 so perhaps I should try to do that first. You could make more videos about games I've never played and I'll probably still watch them.
Ah D:OS2, THE best RPG ever made ... until BG3 came out The Path of Blood is very similar to the Steel Watcher guarding the entrance to Wyrm's Crossing, now I think of it.
I still love them both. There's a few things I like more in DOS2, but BG3 overall is better now. I miss the Shove/throw/jump actions everytime I go back to DOS2 now...
Great video! I made a pure OC protagnoist in my second DOS2 playthrough as a support character and the rest of my team were allowed to kill, I managed to get through the path of blood but it was really difficult (for me anyway!). So congrats on being a pacifist, I didn't think it was possible! Very unexpected ending too, it's always quite funny when you can just talk down the big bad guy with the power of virtue :D
OMG you actually made it into arx not through the door! I tried for over an hour trying to fling a pyramid, but I didn't think I could make that distance.
That was amazing, I think there are less then 1% of the player have ever pure buff and have hero at the same time. I have NEVER thought that larian even make that final combat can be avoided.
I've had that one on my list as well, but probably won't get to it for a while. I think it could be neat to do a run like that in DOS2. I've got a few tricks already planned for hard to find creatures etc. I have around 1000 hours in DOS2 as well before bg3 even came out so it's fun to finally share some of these things
@@ProxyGateTactician Oh it'd be great to see both DOS2 and BG3! It would be a great way to show off not only your knowledge of the games/fringe scenarios, but also covering some things you maybe regularly miss in other runs :)
I had the same idea of doing a Pacifist run using the damage reflection skill and spam healis. Nice to see somebody completed the game Pacifist. Though i feel bad about not completing the challenge now.
I'm pretty sure that someone at Larian has watched my bg3 challenge runs because they kept immediately patching all the exploits I was showcasing in them like a week later last year and early this year lol. Even the ones I knew I'd found on my own and no one else had posted were fixed really quickly
@@ProxyGateTactician Oh thats interesting! (not sure if good or bad.. it seems like a ton of work) From the outside, looks like you're both exchanging love letters, one creator to another, and we get to watch that. Which is awesome. Thank you for the videos!
Unsurprisingly, there are some similarities between this route and the glitchless speedrun route: - skipping the Arx door via Telekinesis + pyramids, - rushing the 2 source points (but the speedrun route uses kill Advocate -> talk to Jahan), - Path of Blood instead of Arhu (speedrun route uses a hireling), - "skipping" the final fight (the speedrun doesn't actually skip the fight, it just uses Enrage + Time Warp on Lucian to make him 1 turn Braccus) I do wonder if it's faster/easier to use the villain tag persuasion to skip the final fight than the hero tag persuasion, though...(maybe not; Isbeil's ambush is pretty BS) Edit: The speedrun route actually doesn't use Deathfog vs. the Source Titan. That was a different route that I saw that...had some other restriction? I can't remember why that route used Deathfog there. (Ah, it was an older speedrun route that is much slower, presumably because it seems to avoid using "Backpackmancy")
If this video gets at least 599 likes I will make more videos on this channel.
and now u gonna make more videos on this channel
@@AtreyusNinja lol what a shocker
We are so back
Please do. Very fun seeing Divinity videos since I myself dont have the game.
love your dedication to larian games i love them too ^^
The Hero tag thing blew my mind. I love Larian for putting stuff in the game that only a few people will even see.
Really surprised me that it isn't on the wiki, and google searching for it doesn't show up. I had it in my memory from years ago
Yeah, that was quite the revelation. I have played the game a lot and finished it multiple times, but I never knew about that. That's amazing
It gets better: If you have the villain tag but not the hero tag, have 6 persuasion and chose to release the deathfog on arx, you can also persuade Bracchus to quit.
Given that you don't fight anyone this or the other way but Dallis and Lucian still let you decide the world's fate, I imagine that your magnificient speech awed them into letting you just do whatever you want.
@@runtergerutscht4401”i am the homelander, and I really can do whatever the fuck i want” moment
@@runtergerutscht4401the way I got that one my first run
As a bone totem i thank you for the respect you've given us.
We've usually only seen as objects.
Glad someone appreciated that joke 😆
@@ProxyGateTactician :3
@@ProxyGateTactician As a bone totem with a kink, I really would've preferred if you atleast hit em once
That's pretty amazing that you can get to the end of the game and just be like, "Give up! I'm a Hero who's hands are free of blood and sin, you don't stand a chance!" and the BBEG just folds.
Yeah there’s even a different end game slide for this ending too. He just basically decides to never show up again it says. The dude was happy to be content as a normal guy maybe 😂
"I have never hurt a fly, tremble before me!"
*Bracchus actually trembles.*
"I shall still be king!.... uhh maybe later though I totally will!"
It also works with the villain tag, btw.
@@runtergerutscht4401 Correction. "I have made my way through deathly dangers, challenges and unspeakable evil without ever having bloodied my hands, my conscience is pure and my will is unbreakable, for how would otherwise a man of such a peaceful soul be able to reach this far, if not for a Will that can rival that of the gods?!"
Such a dedication to sacrifice 16h save and do it again for 16 min video. You're built diff man
I almost quit right there lol but I was like ugh I can't just throw all that away...
I write my initial script while playing and had all that recording and scripted and to throw it all away would have been even worse than not restarting lol
@@ProxyGateTactician I'm very glad you didn't quit. The humor and the jokes were on-point and the dedication to start over is just incredible. Absolutely love the vid!
@@ProxyGateTactician best decision ever
"They murdered a lizard in cold blood." Made me snicker.
lol as expected
no way u can actually skip the final boss.... i have 1.3k hours in this game and i didn't know it !!!! amazing video man
It's somehow not even listed on the wiki for the game. It's so obscure.
@@ProxyGateTactician incredible
Always love to see more DoS2 appreciation in the world! It always surprises me that 7 years after playing the game, I'm still learning about new dialogue. That was the first time I've seen someone walk the path of blood organically without hirelings + watch Vredeman just give up. Cheers :D
Yeah that Vredeman thing isn’t even on the wiki which was surprising to me. I remember reading about it on Reddit like 2 years ago
Holy shit. That ending. Thank you for your time sacrifice and also to Larian for putting that in the game.
I just watched the video at 2000x speed, great stuff as always!
lol thanks
Probably like < 1% of players got that pure buff. Good job. I did not even know it was a thing and thought the Toymaker was the only real way forward.
A cheap way to get past that is just to get a Hireling, any fresh new Hireling. They instantly pass the Pure test and get you into the tomb. I don't think they can get you past the final fight with the Hero+Pure+Pursuation route though.
Pretty sure he cheated the path of blood. He show'd himself stealing on his first character, so I doubt he didn't on the second. And stealing disables path of blood
@@orionweiss5418 Nah if you look on the left any time he's pickpocketing it's with Fane, and the bit where he shows a character stealing while explaining the Path of Blood is from some other playthrough.
I never stole on the first character. Every single time I stole was using fane and that was very purposeful. I don’t cheat in my videos.
@@ProxyGateTactician Judge Jay: "To the charge of theft in a video game how do you plead?" (LOL JK)
Fane feigning death is a good one. Also the little part with your character sleeping and you editing in footage for his dream was cute. Creative little touches like that are awesome.
Your ability to come up with these runs and then somehow find a way to complete them, while having it all edited and narrated in a concise, entertaining and insightful way truly makes you the champion of gaming champions.
To be honest I would not have minded if the video was a little longer and more detailed but I understand that everyone has their own preferences for that sort of thing and you must have been quite eager to get the video out after completing such a daunting run. Well done!
Yeah I know what u mean I always have my first cut around 20-25 min and edit out a lot because in the end it’s kind of boring to watch me sneak past enemies 30 times in different areas or pickpocket everyone forever. Try to avoid too much repetition in what is happening but maybe I’ll try making longer ones in the future to see if people like it more. I get a lot of requests for it
The real treasure is the only channel member you made along the way😌
haha I never advertised it before today, and didn't expect anyone to when I don't offer any perks. Just wanted to thank the guy anyways
I attempted this challenge way back and got stuck on Act 3 too. Funnily enough I used every tactic you did. Stealing the wand to free Slane, forcing Gareth to fight Alexander (and being surprised they could win) and only doing non-violent quests to progess and level up.
Originally I thought to make a really tanky character since there's a stat that reflects all damage you take back to the enemy. I didn't test it because I was so heartbroken that I had to fight the source titan that I gave up on the challenge. Thanks for proving that it would've been possible, even if my tanky idea is still untested.
Unfortunately, the retribution damage counts as your kill if someone dies to it. Usually the AI doesn't hit you if it will kill them, but sometimes they crit. It's also tough bc you can only ever get 20 points of retribution (100% reflection) with unmodded gear, unless there's some lategame items I don't know about.
And in the end the game won't let you pass the trial of blood anyways.
You might be able to get really tricky with the bleed fire skill, where you proc fire around you after you get hit... idk, it would be tricky to make a working build, but not impossible
I would NEVER have thought about increasing the telekinesis range or that it would even be able to go that far. Or that the best option would be to throw the transporter pyramid across the water.
Absolutely in awe with your dedication to the bit, I think I'm in love with you
Loving DoS 2 content especially after bg3 release
I had wished I'd done content on that game for years tbh so I'm glad I can do it now. Had around 1000 hours played in it before bg3 came out
@@ProxyGateTactician just want to tell you that i am loving what u are doing RN
2:26 best punchline ever
Yeah, Proxy was _vicious_ with his jokes this vid!
Amazing you took my suggestion at heart. Pretty nice to see a real pacifism run. 27 hours of gameplay, resume in 17 minutes. Worth every second. Nice one.
Replaying the entire game after reaching the end of act 3, for a strat that may not even work is absolutely insane. You're incredible hahahahah
Oh my god, I never knew about the ending! I always try to get both Hero and Villian for maximum amount of options available, its crazy this is an option!! Over 700 hours in Dos2, and I never knew. Awesome stuff! More Dos2 content please :D
Yours is the only channel I care to watch about Divinity or BG3 (or any game runs honestly haha). So original and skillful. I love it! Please give us more
I'm definitely excited for more dos2 runs from you!
I've completed all DOS2 only to watch these two DOS videos. Keep going.
What in the fuck is that ending? I have 1000 hours 100% achievments and didnt know it was possible to persuade braccus off just like that. Genious.
I ve never played this game nor do I know the story or tricks like I know some in BG3 but your narrative skills and small yet effective explanations make this awsome. I love your challenge runs so no matter the game I ll def watch them
Love your stuff!
Thanks!
Proxy, this was INCREDIBLE! I have avoided watching this vid, since I have not played DOS2, but I am SO glad I did. This was a monumental triumph, and I actually cheered when you brought the Hero tag back in the end!
I started playing again after i got my switch and realized i remember nothing you and other youtubers who still make content for this game are what makes my day.
Was fully expecting a cop out somewhere in the video, but nope! And the pure buff+hero tag was something I didn’t know existed. Crazy good work dude.
Love all of your Larian content!! I hope there’s more BG3 and DOS2 content in your future :))
Your videos are really great, keep it up! :)
Not me snickering every time you disguise yourself as a plant 🤣
i tried so hard for months to do this same thing but got stuck in the source titan , im surprized i didnt think about this , u are the goat
Yeah even I failed it once. I wasn’t even sure the deathfog would damage it because it doesn’t look like it should be something that can breathe
Such a good video, you have my respect for not going back to a older save.
I love your contents so much, please never stop being amazing!
MORE Divinity gods dang it
I can't tell if you're angry because there's more or you want more lol
@@ProxyGateTactician Ha! we need more Divinity videos good sir
outstanding video, a story well told and well edited !! god i love dos2
More DOS2 content lets gooo
I'm absolutely flabbergasted at this video. My mouth is agape. My brain refuses to accept what I just saw. Impressive.
Man I'm so glad I found and subbed to this channel.
2 minutes in and I'm loving this one!
MrBeast joke is perfect
Ah yes, the classic pacifist pro move of ‘leave a barrel of death next to a guy and walk away’
Hey if Larian themselves said it doesn’t count as my attack then who are we to judge?
amazing, I love that theres actually a legit way to finish the game like that
I love that someone is still giving this game love❤
Such dedication for a video. Congrats
I never even played this game, but damn you made a great video and had me laughing and awing the whole time, great job!
I just started playing it again today after many years.
Holy shit there is no way you tought to do that whit the seekers.
You are a genius!
The dedication is insane. He could have cheated in the barrels using a save editor but instead he decided to play it all again for the consistency. Respect
the sheer dedication of this man
i love your work keep it up!
Thats an amazing video, you deserve way more views brother.
Congrats.
Second playthrough was crazy! Insane dedication bro congrats 👏
you never cease to amaze me
I'm so glad I can watch your videos about Divinity: Original Sin II. I tried to go back to it, but every time I try, I bounce off and go back to Baldur's Gate III.
yeah the monsters/lore/races/artstyle and some of the abilities surely are nicer in BG3
I'm worried this will happen to me. I played DOS2 years back but I never got past the first city, but I've got over 300+ hours in BG3. I want to go back and play DOS2 eventually
Quality video as always.
Necessity breeds innovation! It's amazing that you can pull this off *and* be rewarded for it. I love the lizard designs in this game so I might give it a try, but I still haven't beaten act 1 in BG3 so perhaps I should try to do that first. You could make more videos about games I've never played and I'll probably still watch them.
Love your style, keep up the grind.
That's incredible!!!! Well done, that's so impressive ^_^ I can't wait for Larians next unique IP!
Ah D:OS2, THE best RPG ever made ... until BG3 came out
The Path of Blood is very similar to the Steel Watcher guarding the entrance to Wyrm's Crossing, now I think of it.
I still love them both. There's a few things I like more in DOS2, but BG3 overall is better now. I miss the Shove/throw/jump actions everytime I go back to DOS2 now...
@@ProxyGateTactician Yeah DOS2 is great.
It's what made me believe that Larian could be trusted with BG3.
next : beat DOS 2 as a disney princess
Great video! I made a pure OC protagnoist in my second DOS2 playthrough as a support character and the rest of my team were allowed to kill, I managed to get through the path of blood but it was really difficult (for me anyway!). So congrats on being a pacifist, I didn't think it was possible! Very unexpected ending too, it's always quite funny when you can just talk down the big bad guy with the power of virtue :D
Not even doing damage is going above and beyond. Just not killing would be enough.
Nice video
Pacifist feels impossible without summoner
No summoner of course!
@ProxyGateTactician It seems impossible but knowing you you can do anything in divinity
Ok but if a hot lizard man told me not to fight him I’d do it and more
OMG you actually made it into arx not through the door! I tried for over an hour trying to fling a pyramid, but I didn't think I could make that distance.
that was a great video , it reminds me of how much i loved this game
That was amazing, I think there are less then 1% of the player have ever pure buff and have hero at the same time. I have NEVER thought that larian even make that final combat can be avoided.
5:19
How do you even think of this?!
Never played this game but the way you narrate is so entertaining lol
Glad to hear that! Hope its not too confusing
I love these dos2 runs! Keen for more
This video has convinced me I should play Divinity.
lol me playing the game in the wrong way convincing someone to give it a try is always great to hear
Have you considered the opposite? What's the maximum amount of kills you can do in a playthrough? :D (Only on screen kills ofc, no summons etc)
I've had that one on my list as well, but probably won't get to it for a while. I think it could be neat to do a run like that in DOS2. I've got a few tricks already planned for hard to find creatures etc. I have around 1000 hours in DOS2 as well before bg3 even came out so it's fun to finally share some of these things
@@ProxyGateTactician Oh it'd be great to see both DOS2 and BG3! It would be a great way to show off not only your knowledge of the games/fringe scenarios, but also covering some things you maybe regularly miss in other runs :)
As much as I love baldur’s gate I can never reach my playtime in DOS:2 just because of how much more builds are possible compared to bg3
have to put a comment on this video because GOD DAMN dedication to my fave game ever
it makes me so happy to see others playing an 'old' game
Haha before bg3 launched all I played was DoS2, classic wow, and StarCraft. So to me dos2 was still new in comparison
@@ProxyGateTactician Fr, fr. you gotta admit though, DoS2 is too underrated XDD
More DOS2 PLEASE!
Hell yeah, love your dos2 videos! ❤
I'm a big fan of ridiculous challenge runs so I'm good with whatever game you want to do.
I had no idea you could convince braccus to give up at the end
I had the same idea of doing a Pacifist run using the damage reflection skill and spam healis. Nice to see somebody completed the game Pacifist. Though i feel bad about not completing the challenge now.
The effort for this vid! ❤
LOL!!! I have never seen the last boss of a game just giving up and going home.
Larian has to watch this!
I'm pretty sure that someone at Larian has watched my bg3 challenge runs because they kept immediately patching all the exploits I was showcasing in them like a week later last year and early this year lol. Even the ones I knew I'd found on my own and no one else had posted were fixed really quickly
@@ProxyGateTactician Oh thats interesting! (not sure if good or bad.. it seems like a ton of work)
From the outside, looks like you're both exchanging love letters, one creator to another, and we get to watch that. Which is awesome.
Thank you for the videos!
Brilliant commentary, such loving snark 😂
And damn, gonna reinstall DOS 1 & 2. I need my Rivellon fix
Edit: 582 likes atm. C'mon guys!!!
I have yet to be proven wrong about always making my characters undead.
Starcraft music goes hard, love it as a background choice
Unsurprisingly, there are some similarities between this route and the glitchless speedrun route:
- skipping the Arx door via Telekinesis + pyramids,
- rushing the 2 source points (but the speedrun route uses kill Advocate -> talk to Jahan),
- Path of Blood instead of Arhu (speedrun route uses a hireling),
- "skipping" the final fight (the speedrun doesn't actually skip the fight, it just uses Enrage + Time Warp on Lucian to make him 1 turn Braccus)
I do wonder if it's faster/easier to use the villain tag persuasion to skip the final fight than the hero tag persuasion, though...(maybe not; Isbeil's ambush is pretty BS)
Edit: The speedrun route actually doesn't use Deathfog vs. the Source Titan. That was a different route that I saw that...had some other restriction? I can't remember why that route used Deathfog there. (Ah, it was an older speedrun route that is much slower, presumably because it seems to avoid using "Backpackmancy")
Holy shit this took so many hours... Respect, and thanks
5:11 you can ask gareth (forget how to type his name so idk if i am wrong) to take 2 of them but pretty sure more will die on the ship if you do that
Ah yes, this is what I was waiting for
your videos are amazing
Legend! Great watch!
I identify as a bone totem, and I feel heard. Thank you.
I just finished the video. It was great 😊
rofl thanks that was sure fast
16 min video seen seconds after release...
Spending hours of research and suffering to create amazing contents for us!
This man needs more sub
5:20 I did this a different way. I teleported Alexander up to the seekers, making them enter combat and we made quick work of him.
Wow I never knew you could redirect the Seekers so they will help in the Alexander fight - need to try that the next time I do a playthrough!
4 minutes late, feels bad - proxy time ❤
No prob ur still awesome
Blocking npcs from running away is genius.
Soon this game will be 9 years old.
Let that sink in!