The theory from FuhNaff is very interested and honestly seems convincing with the fact that SB and Ruin are very much like TSE and TTO, but personally I do not believe it.
One thing else to consider, when Cassie puts on the mask in the beauty Solon, we see her memories from her birthday party and Gregory’s disappearance. So by that logic when we put on the mask in hw2, the minigames from sister location and first aid are memories of Cassie’s dad. Even if you say “but hw2 is a training simulator for new employees”, why would we go through sister location? And if we are playing as Cassie’s dad who is also the Bonnie bully and may also be Jeremy from fnaf 2 and hw1, could he be a technician in circus baby’s, and maybe even the one Henry wanted for in fnaf 6 to burn the place down and escape through the exit he talked about.
The idea that Fredbear’s was turned into Circus Baby’s Pizza World is honestly one I’m surprised I never thought of, and it seems like it makes a lot of sense. It is kinda funny how much happens in this one location though lol
I honestly love this theory and John’s style of theory’s, it like what RyeTost said the man is insane when seeing details that possibly could change the way we think
It’s hard to say exactly. One thing is clear, we need proper clarification to The Mimic. He’s a creepy and cool character, but it’s unknown to if he represents anyone, or if he’s just a brand new character in the FNAF timeline.
@star-rock6466 they'll probably add onto it, given that there's two chunks of time that we don't know about: 1. When FazEnt got their hands on him and made the model 2s 2. Prior to his delivery to the pizza place when he got burnt
The chip goes from baby to handy. It probably stays in the SL bunker during pizzeria simulator. The fact that Michael’s room from SL is in the pizzaplex, and the SL elevator in HW2, it would be reasonable to assume whoever built the pizzaplex and started excavating the PS pizzeria has been to the SL bunker and found it. I think there is some handy to helpy pipeline, but it’s not clear to me if this is established in PS or HW (or maybe I just heard it in a theory video on yt).
So here my hot take theory, So the event as what I see go like this: (This is LONG) (To long for those who aren't insane) Early 70s Fall Fest and the creation on Fazbear Entertainment who like made by Henry and unknown business partners at the time, likely to by the right to Fredbear and other Mascot character costumes. Mid 70s Partner spin of Acton Robotics and Fazbear Entertainment to make Fredbear Family Diner, William a friend of Henry like through schooling work with Henry to get something he was interest in out of it, and that was the Bunker in it's early stage. 80s Fazbear now with some profit from the Diner and other deals like sell merch now want to make there own Franchise Chain but instead of Fredbear they are using original character they made like there younger Freddy Fazbear and work to make these Pizzeria come out starts. Unknown events we don't know about by I think could relate to Henry line "A wound first afflicted on, that I lead spread to everything else." (You'll see why) 1983 Freddy's Open and a new show and new merchandise are being shelved out, but the Idea of no longer working with Afton Robotics and close Fredbear's for a Freddy location come to mind. 1983 MCI happen and Henry scared of what could happen makes an early release of the Security Puppet. Around the same time Edwin or a Similar character/event to the Story the Mimic happen. Charlie sadly died outside of Freddy's and it seem some Fazbear employees and higher up not only want to continue with Afton Robotics but seem to cover up these events and got Henry out, but due to the looming Agony of the kids from MCI a young Boy became the witness telling cops that the Puppet thing did it. A new subject became William next target for his Nightmare experiment, his younger Son. (Un-confirm named so CC for now) William Family now after the experiment have a new stance, as unloved Son Micheal is now picking on his brother due to his dad added attention due to him always crying now, young new born Elizabeth say by the Mom 24/7 as she run her daytime errands leaving Micheal to babysit his Brother and grow more resentment. The Fredbear Bite of 83 happen as Micheal couldn't imagine the Suit and Robots being deadly enough to bite hard enough to crack skulls for cause anything more then a cut or two. Fredbear close down and springlock suits are not used regularly and are put it the back for special events. 1985 due to the MCI, Charlie death and just a string of cost cutting choices Freddy Fazbear first franchise Location closed and other Temporally close for Redesigns. 1986 a spin-off location was in the works call Circus Baby Pizza World to see if maybe a clean slate would help, reusing the old Fredbear location once again and Partnering with Afton Robotics, this closed before it open to the public due to "gas leaks" but we know why and Elizabeth now a little girl who never knew 1 of her brother ended up just like CC did. 1987 and the NEW Freddy's open and no longer will be working with Acton Robotics for now on due to the failure of the plan Circus Baby Pizza World and all there employees from the Robotics are blacklisted. Micheal and his friend Jeremy both likely gone through therapy and maybe even juvie are out on the job market. Well William now failing company the Fazbear is planning on buying off from William is going through, to scar Fazbear 1 more time he commit the DCI under a false name and likely change face. FNAF 2 happen and Jeremy ends up with a new face scar and a replace frontal lobe now trying to live a less stressful life away from his favourite childhood characters. (Remember the Bite never killed the person, only force the frontal lobe to be remove and like replace) (also all Springlock Suits are boarded up and are never to be seen again) William lay low as Fazbear try once again to reopen Freddy's without the trauma as the news impact there franchised location base on the New Freddy Crew Designs. FNAF 1 Location open but sadly profit show the brand restaurant ways coming to an end and trying to get Afton Robotics from William is difficult, but Micheal getting Nightmare of what his Brother went through Goes to Apply for Freddy under a fake name (likely again after FNAF 2) to find that yes, these Robots truly are haunted by kids and outside of a Golden Bear Illusion they are event more hellbent on Micheal more then anything, like if he looked similar to the killer? Micheal now try searching up what really happen after being fired. The place close down very early 1993 a few mouths after Micheal worked there. Fazbear still doing other stuff like TV shows, going to more Fall Festivals and anything they can do to stay afloat. 1997 William and his Wife now out of public eye have a new child Vanessa. (Beginning of the Really Hot Takes) 2000 a Divorce begins as William and his wife don't see eye to eye and the deal to get Afton Robotics and change it for Fazbear happen. But William still hold on to so many cards, he figure out abut the hauntings, he have taken parts of the withered suits and used them in the funtimes, he have his Bunker under a Unused building and a secret way to get in and out, Fazbear if they want to continue there Brand needs to keep quiet, Henry is gone and haven been heard from, Vanessa is saying what Bill as he going by now wants, and there no one left who can throw his soon to be continue plans of trying to find a way to become ever lasting. William panics as he need to get rid of Micheal slowly piecing things together. 2001 he convince Micheal with a Message to be a Fazbear Employee once again to go into his Bunker to "put your Sister back together" saying she down there, this is a trap to kill off Micheal. It works, but then it didn't. William Divorce went off as Micheal was a no show and the kids death was not Williams fault and his Wife after losing another Child sadly ends her pain. But Micheal is back and William need a new plan as killing Micheal didn't work. William goes to the abandoned location in 2002 to destroy the any remaining evidence that the children was stuff and goes to get rid of every problem but as we see in FNAF 3 Minigames it didn't work. Micheal take care of his new Sister Vanessa after finding his Dad body hoping the pain is gone. 2015 Fazbear Frights was made as Fazbear new secret initiative to make light of the pass. 2015 Micheal is hired as a security guard to see if there still anything left he need to worry about, and through his Security Logbook and what he finds out they found, death was never enough for restless souls. Fazbear Frights was burnt down and now trying to find out what he missed. Henry who done nothing after being forced out, blamed, shamed, forgotten, left in misery hears the Fazbear Frights burning and realize this pain he let happen, he did nothing about even when it took everything away from him, Henry just want it all to end and burn. Henry not under fake Identity makes the Pizzeria Sim location and begin luring and gathering everything he found that haven be destroyed in this one location. Pizza Sim happens in 2017 and Henry plans work in some way, but failed in stopping everything. Micheal could be alive? Helpy character came out fine, and the Mimic stuff he gather didn't Burn. (Likely was saved by firefighters putting out the fire) Fazbear with little left only have 1 shot to save everything they built, that secret project to make games that was supposed to make light of the events, and Sue the man they Hire for everything they own. FNAF Help wanted happen in the year 2019 and that Mimic programming now with agony of that final fire, and Afton old info he had in old circuit board makes a digital copy know as Glitchtrap, who Scar Jeremy again forcing his face to heal again. But find Vanessa, Vanessa Afton, the perfect person to manipulate and control. Fazbear now with there Biggest Rebrand and new Owners with tons of money start the building of Mega Pizzaplexs. FNAF AR happens too in 2020 as another way to poke fun at these story showing more that they have to be false but Vanessa and Glitchtrap are working, Brainwashing a young boy name Gregory and begins there plans for Pizzaplex first year take over for this area. FNAF SB happen in 2023 and Ruin likely the following year. Thats a lot, which is why a gave the Long warning. But this is what I believe for now.
@@justice8718 Huh? Of course it was Michael. Why else would he stay for the fire instead of taking the way out. Even Henry said he knew he wanted to stay. Who else would we be?
I'll say 1 thing The chip doesn't look like that for no reason it's literally the same chip from a very old model that scott made and steelwool have nothing to do with it so it was clearly given to them by scott or they took it
The only issue I have with the Fredbear's turning into Circus Baby's is that Pizza World in the novel trilogy is pretty huge. It has a ton of rooms and attractions inside it. I get the novel trilogy isn't that accurate to the games but Fredbear's in the novels is also about the same size as in the games and is in fact a different building. So i doubt they're the same.
The chip is not a power source, because it is a chip; or more appropriately it's a card/cartrage/mini-disk. It's a thing that you write data onto for storage and/or to transfer to another device. Disks/chips/cards cannot generate power; Scott and Steel Wool are knowledgeable about computers and programing; they know what a power source looks like, whether that's in the form of a car battery or a generator. They also know what a storage device looks like; which is the type of object Baby has you remove. You are correct in that that chip can't be Baby, but it could be either a program that runs/controls Baby or some kind of back-up method that stores information taken from Baby. The circular disks / objects that get removed from Baby are similar in appearance to emitters; something that emits sound/soundwaves (like a smoke alarm) and listening devices or "bugs". This is why people believe they might be illusion disks as described in the books; because they are visually depicted as very, very close to a category of real-life object that has a shortlist of uses/functions. I don't mean to come off as rude, but I mention this stuff because it's important to pay attention to how a storyteller might be trying to communicate information through shared cultural knowledge; Steel Wool and Scott know what these physical objects look like in the real world and are referencing those objects on purpose to suggestion what these fictional objects probably are.
Actually in the books, FNAF 6 is an in-universe game so it very much did NOT happen. UCN having voices of their possessed dead kids isn't really proof of much as it's very unlikely UCN happened as-is at all. It's much more likely that UCN is Afton's personal endless nightmare, thus making the voices of the kids being there not really proof of anything that the robots are capable of doing. Also the voice of Baby tells us already that "Ballora is in the room with us" meaning probably, Ennard. She says that "you must be careful, you must remain calm and listen to my voice." meaning Baby isn't so much lying to us, the player, in this moment. Yes, Ennard takes us out if we steer off the path. That's exactly what Baby told us. Actions = consequences. If someone tells you "There is a man with a gun in the building who shoots at anyone yelling" and you start yelling, are you suspecting the person who told you this information to be working together with the shooter? That doesn't make much sense. Yes she is telling us that she's pretending. But she could simply be referring to the idea that the voice is not really coming from inside the exoskeleton. If Ennard already could communicate to Michael, why go through the elaborate effort to pull that chip out? Even more, why specifically mention it should be stored in Hand Unit? Couldn't it have made up some bullshit that it was already connected to Hand Unit through some update the workers had installed in the previous night? Instead, they specifically mention Hand Unit. That's very interesting to me, as Helpy is kind of the modernised version of Hand Unit, no? Guides you through the game, gives you hints on where to go/what to do/what mechanics are. It's almost as if the framework of Hand Unit was used to create Helpy. And if that is true, then that chip - which Ennard or Baby (who IS part of the Ennard amalgamation at this point in time, and if we are to believe the excerpts of texts later found in the dialogue between two websites, Baby is "crowding us" and therefore the most likely person to speak here even if she is IN Ennard) told us to remove from Baby's arm after telling us we have to enter a passcode "before you can retrieve me" - is part of this framework. It's also interesting that in the ending that follows, actually in both endings, the narrator is referencing Circus Baby and "her" (most likely speaking to Michael about Elizabeth) as third-person. They do so for all funtimes btw, not just Baby. As far as I know, Ennard is simply the combination of all Funtimes, and so there is no hidden 5th animatronic that could be speaking here. As for where the robots in the FNAF universe get their power from, I think we can be very clear. Afton might have been a genius but there is simply no way a small chip like that would be capable of powering the entirety of that robot. Instead, I think that the robots function by being injected remnant. Initially they might have had simple power sources like an external or internal battery pack (FNAF 1 and 2 animatronics and the mediocre melodies) but eventually the robotics became more experimental. What I find more interesting, and what is seemingly mentioned by no one, is WHY the animatronics got scooped. Specifically, why NOW. CB's entertainment and rental had been open for a while but as Baby tells us, "Something bad happened yesterday. Something bad always happens." Almost as if she scooped up another kid? "I don't want it to happen again / There is something bad inside of me" almost as if Baby is aware of her own programming or code? She mentioned it before in her recollection of the day she killed Elizabeth. "I would always count the children, I’m not sure why. I was always acutely aware of how many there were in the room with me." and "Something happened when there was one / I was no longer myself / I couldn’t move at least, not until she stepped closer / There was screaming for a moment, but only for a moment / Why did that happen?" And it's not JUST Baby getting scooped, they're all being scooped.
I mean CB and mimic have ties. both are programmed to mimic voices and people, both could have used same Mimic AI, which Afton probably stole, and actual endoskeleton of CB could be mimic...
Wait, the story of candy cadet is that the monster learned the lullaby, that's saying baby if she is the mimic learned now to mimic voices over time, not right from sister location
Evan, could Edwin made the endo 02 for the "unwithereds" after henry made the endo 01 for the classics? The classics are used in almost all the fazbear locations in the 80s for merch, plushies, tv shows, etc, while the unwithereds are used in security puppet location and the mci location
@@ImpulseEvan37 Circus Baby previously being injected with Remnant from the SCoUPer doesn't change that we see the Circus Baby and Ennard endoskeletons the same room as separate constructs. Ennard's model also doesn't change afterwards to show that Circus Baby's endoskeleton has joined with them later on.
There’s no mention of Edwin at all in the games and there’s absolutely no tiger imagery to be found. I absolutely refuse to believe that all the Mimic’s lore is in the books. It’d be like the lore is paid DLC
@henriquefigueiraferreira1608 That is impossible. The Mimic connects directly to The Storyteller, which connects to HAPPS, which connects to a majority of the other Tales stories, including GGY and Bobbiedots. Saying that *only* The Mimic is in the games' continuity is cherry picking. There is also more evidence for all of Tales being in the games continuity than there is for it being an entirely separate timeline.
@@Angermations Explain me, why the minic doesnt have that rabbit ears in ruin? its the same thing with the man the room 1280 having 2 arms but scraptrap jus have one
@henriquefigueiraferreira1608 Mimic's design allows him to change his body shape at will, allowing him to fit into any mascot costume. He does this in the epilogues, changing his body design to be able to get into the costumes he uses. The rabbit ears could've just been broken off at some point, too. Either way, saying only The Mimic is canon still causes continuity problems, especially with the specific connections to almost every other Tales story. And for The Man in Room 1280 having two arms, I'd like to point out that one little wrong detail doesn't really mean anything. It could be a writing error for all we know. Also, what does this have to do with The Mimic's continuity? Although I do believe the Stitchwraith Stingers and connected stories are in the games continuity, that is irrelevant to the current conversation.
@@Angermations "writting error", thats the most obvius part about scraptrap, and the mimic obvius rabbit ears not appearing in ruin is a total contradiction, he turns into a f*cking megazord at the climax of the mimic story in mxes, he's described totally a black burned endo eskeleton in the epiogues, in ruin he is dirty gray endo eskeleton
Funtime animatronics ennard they mimic voices to and mimic is tall like sun moon eclipse Funtime animatronics nightmares Ennard to and Ennard mimic voice of Elizabeth to lead Michael to them to trick him like the mimic did to Cassie Amd ennard uses get in a skin suit mascot to like mimic does My voice means to deceive you Ennard Elizabeth circus baby
It's so bizarre, in all my playthroughs of HW2 I never got that chip part in the minigame. Didn't even know it existed until I saw John's video. Feel like if it was that important, it would be more explicit. Great analysis of Circus Baby toward the end of the video 👍
With all these circus connections, maybe The Mimic is from Circus baby's Pizza world and was kind of like The Puppet, they'd have different suits placed on their Endo and work the Prize counter or do other things like run smaller parties?
You're noticing the bread crumbs! Lots of clues that point to the majority of the mini games to be training sims~ the pirate foxy voice lines being way less enthusiastic than in help wanted 1 also feels deliberate. A fake recreation lacking the touch of pure man made material. Just a thought, great video!
Man, this is so confusing Like- what if the switches actually active the gas and so the gas leaks we heard of in SL were true with one being enabled in CBPW and so that means Elizabeth never died with the gas showing a scenerio that never happened and we even see Circus Baby do nothing to us when she hands us ice-cream in HW 2 and.... yeah. No, I don't believe that. What we've heard of about CBE&R with Dittophobia, all the pipes we see and vents that seem to be the ones leaking gas, and the gas leaks message we see in SL, it all seems to somehow connect, plus the fact Circus Baby never kills us in HW 2 after handing out an ice-cream. It's a VR experience, what could happen if she were to do that? I don't really know what that would do. For all we know Michael is actually alive because he never actually got scooped, it was just hallucinogenic gas, the real ending is him going to the safe room to hide away from Ennard that tries to chase him down, mimicking Elizabeth's voice. I'm making a total fanfic now all because of the information we've been given because it seems to connect but it doesn't actually mean anything? Huhhh?
10:16 valid point but I don't think the mimic made the game. Yes maybe it hijacked the game but this error could've been made by fazbear entertainments dev team. Great theory however I do agree baby cannot be the mimic👍🏽
fazbear entertainment uses the mimic as a shortcut to create all these characters, meaning the mimic would have been the one responsible for this version of Baby
@@ImpulseEvan37 is that ever stated directly in the games?Oh sorry this is in the books... Idk I get the characters I'm not saying anything about baby being off I'm talking about the fact that the breaker room has the circus world lever it may be just an Easter egg or something
Yeah, I haven't really sided with Baby being the Mimic or a spring lock suit. Matpat has compared Vanessa's "i don't like dark basements" to Baby in the facility; weird he didn't mention that HW2 line. One reason I thought that Baby wouldn't snatch you is her being a KIDnapper, you might be too old. Her eyes are also green, unlike Elizabeth's fate, so maybe that affects a difference? But speaking of Helpi, in HW2 he very much wants you to 'lose' and give Cassie the VANNI mask, seeing as he gets annoyed when you don't collect the faz force, and disappears if you do PQ4 beforehand. Ruin distinguished Helpi being the Mimic/sinister via his eyes tho this HW2 one "bears" no such distinction. Also in Ruin, blue eyed Helpi called the ghost rabbit an unknown entity implying it's not part of the MXES system...
The last part incorrect not only does yootooz who gives there rights to scott and ownership to scott for fnaf product's call the entity mxes but the unused files call him a sketal mesh ,mesh meaning a extended security control. And helpi says he's a anti virus lingering in the systems so yea no it's confirmed and been. Made pretty clear the entity is mxes
TBH never liked this theory lmao It basically represents the biggest issue with the theory community as in that people look way too deep into shit even though the Mimic is more or less the most cut and dry clear case of lore we had in this franchise
To me if mimic glitch trap and burn trap then it can’t be baby even though I’m more on the side the afton is glitch trap and burn trap weather that just him or it’s his soul attached to the mimic program I personally think but I will say I perfer baby being the mimic way more there so much more evidence and similarities to the 2 then afton and the mimic fnaf lore going to be hard now because if mat pat leaving but hopefully Tom and all the other theorist fnaf theorist can solve it
Baby doesn't have more proof than burntrap and glitchtrap being mimic. And tales tell us mimic is just doing his programming he's not possesed at all. And BURNTRAP and glitchtrap is the mimic the epplouge has mimic match Burntrap 1 to 1 and glitchtrap mimics tape girl in hard level of bonk a bon
I think Baby's actions in Help Wanted 2 ARE a good imitation of how she acts in Sister Location. She's toying with us, obviously, but you know from experience not to trust her. Then the game hits you with the wammy at the end when you are forced to accept her "murder ice cream" to escape the level. It's like Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka, but better; you never know if you can trust her since she lied once already.
The theory from FuhNaff is very interested and honestly seems convincing with the fact that SB and Ruin are very much like TSE and TTO, but personally I do not believe it.
I do not agree with most of the John's theory, however i do believe that's the chip might have in-game mimic1 code
One thing else to consider, when Cassie puts on the mask in the beauty Solon, we see her memories from her birthday party and Gregory’s disappearance. So by that logic when we put on the mask in hw2, the minigames from sister location and first aid are memories of Cassie’s dad. Even if you say “but hw2 is a training simulator for new employees”, why would we go through sister location? And if we are playing as Cassie’s dad who is also the Bonnie bully and may also be Jeremy from fnaf 2 and hw1, could he be a technician in circus baby’s, and maybe even the one Henry wanted for in fnaf 6 to burn the place down and escape through the exit he talked about.
So "safe forever" to me sounds like dittaphobia, where the kid was told he would be safe in the bunker.
The idea that Fredbear’s was turned into Circus Baby’s Pizza World is honestly one I’m surprised I never thought of, and it seems like it makes a lot of sense. It is kinda funny how much happens in this one location though lol
I honestly love this theory and John’s style of theory’s, it like what RyeTost said the man is insane when seeing details that possibly could change the way we think
I agree, his theories are always really interesting even if I don't agree with many of them
Most insane people = the people who are right
It’s hard to say exactly. One thing is clear, we need proper clarification to The Mimic. He’s a creepy and cool character, but it’s unknown to if he represents anyone, or if he’s just a brand new character in the FNAF timeline.
You want clarification on mimic and his origins? Read Tales
@@v1ct0rygames32 here's the thing tho, we don't know if the games will change his origins or add on to it
@star-rock6466 they'll probably add onto it, given that there's two chunks of time that we don't know about:
1. When FazEnt got their hands on him and made the model 2s
2. Prior to his delivery to the pizza place when he got burnt
Tbf 1 can be answered if Mimic is Glitchtrap - he was picked up by FazEnt shortly after 'The Mimic' story, and a model 2 saw the MCI.
@@star-rock6466the books are canon
The chip goes from baby to handy. It probably stays in the SL bunker during pizzeria simulator. The fact that Michael’s room from SL is in the pizzaplex, and the SL elevator in HW2, it would be reasonable to assume whoever built the pizzaplex and started excavating the PS pizzeria has been to the SL bunker and found it. I think there is some handy to helpy pipeline, but it’s not clear to me if this is established in PS or HW (or maybe I just heard it in a theory video on yt).
So here my hot take theory, So the event as what I see go like this: (This is LONG) (To long for those who aren't insane)
Early 70s Fall Fest and the creation on Fazbear Entertainment who like made by Henry and unknown business partners at the time, likely to by the right to Fredbear and other Mascot character costumes.
Mid 70s Partner spin of Acton Robotics and Fazbear Entertainment to make Fredbear Family Diner, William a friend of Henry like through schooling work with Henry to get something he was interest in out of it, and that was the Bunker in it's early stage.
80s Fazbear now with some profit from the Diner and other deals like sell merch now want to make there own Franchise Chain but instead of Fredbear they are using original character they made like there younger Freddy Fazbear and work to make these Pizzeria come out starts.
Unknown events we don't know about by I think could relate to Henry line "A wound first afflicted on, that I lead spread to everything else." (You'll see why)
1983 Freddy's Open and a new show and new merchandise are being shelved out, but the Idea of no longer working with Afton Robotics and close Fredbear's for a Freddy location come to mind.
1983 MCI happen and Henry scared of what could happen makes an early release of the Security Puppet. Around the same time Edwin or a Similar character/event to the Story the Mimic happen.
Charlie sadly died outside of Freddy's and it seem some Fazbear employees and higher up not only want to continue with Afton Robotics but seem to cover up these events and got Henry out, but due to the looming Agony of the kids from MCI a young Boy became the witness telling cops that the Puppet thing did it.
A new subject became William next target for his Nightmare experiment, his younger Son. (Un-confirm named so CC for now)
William Family now after the experiment have a new stance, as unloved Son Micheal is now picking on his brother due to his dad added attention due to him always crying now, young new born Elizabeth say by the Mom 24/7 as she run her daytime errands leaving Micheal to babysit his Brother and grow more resentment.
The Fredbear Bite of 83 happen as Micheal couldn't imagine the Suit and Robots being deadly enough to bite hard enough to crack skulls for cause anything more then a cut or two.
Fredbear close down and springlock suits are not used regularly and are put it the back for special events.
1985 due to the MCI, Charlie death and just a string of cost cutting choices Freddy Fazbear first franchise Location closed and other Temporally close for Redesigns.
1986 a spin-off location was in the works call Circus Baby Pizza World to see if maybe a clean slate would help, reusing the old Fredbear location once again and Partnering with Afton Robotics, this closed before it open to the public due to "gas leaks" but we know why and Elizabeth now a little girl who never knew 1 of her brother ended up just like CC did.
1987 and the NEW Freddy's open and no longer will be working with Acton Robotics for now on due to the failure of the plan Circus Baby Pizza World and all there employees from the Robotics are blacklisted.
Micheal and his friend Jeremy both likely gone through therapy and maybe even juvie are out on the job market. Well William now failing company the Fazbear is planning on buying off from William is going through, to scar Fazbear 1 more time he commit the DCI under a false name and likely change face.
FNAF 2 happen and Jeremy ends up with a new face scar and a replace frontal lobe now trying to live a less stressful life away from his favourite childhood characters. (Remember the Bite never killed the person, only force the frontal lobe to be remove and like replace) (also all Springlock Suits are boarded up and are never to be seen again)
William lay low as Fazbear try once again to reopen Freddy's without the trauma as the news impact there franchised location base on the New Freddy Crew Designs.
FNAF 1 Location open but sadly profit show the brand restaurant ways coming to an end and trying to get Afton Robotics from William is difficult, but Micheal getting Nightmare of what his Brother went through Goes to Apply for Freddy under a fake name (likely again after FNAF 2) to find that yes, these Robots truly are haunted by kids and outside of a Golden Bear Illusion they are event more hellbent on Micheal more then anything, like if he looked similar to the killer? Micheal now try searching up what really happen after being fired.
The place close down very early 1993 a few mouths after Micheal worked there.
Fazbear still doing other stuff like TV shows, going to more Fall Festivals and anything they can do to stay afloat.
1997 William and his Wife now out of public eye have a new child Vanessa. (Beginning of the Really Hot Takes)
2000 a Divorce begins as William and his wife don't see eye to eye and the deal to get Afton Robotics and change it for Fazbear happen. But William still hold on to so many cards, he figure out abut the hauntings, he have taken parts of the withered suits and used them in the funtimes, he have his Bunker under a Unused building and a secret way to get in and out, Fazbear if they want to continue there Brand needs to keep quiet, Henry is gone and haven been heard from, Vanessa is saying what Bill as he going by now wants, and there no one left who can throw his soon to be continue plans of trying to find a way to become ever lasting.
William panics as he need to get rid of Micheal slowly piecing things together.
2001 he convince Micheal with a Message to be a Fazbear Employee once again to go into his Bunker to "put your Sister back together" saying she down there, this is a trap to kill off Micheal.
It works, but then it didn't. William Divorce went off as Micheal was a no show and the kids death was not Williams fault and his Wife after losing another Child sadly ends her pain. But Micheal is back and William need a new plan as killing Micheal didn't work.
William goes to the abandoned location in 2002 to destroy the any remaining evidence that the children was stuff and goes to get rid of every problem but as we see in FNAF 3 Minigames it didn't work.
Micheal take care of his new Sister Vanessa after finding his Dad body hoping the pain is gone.
2015 Fazbear Frights was made as Fazbear new secret initiative to make light of the pass.
2015 Micheal is hired as a security guard to see if there still anything left he need to worry about, and through his Security Logbook and what he finds out they found, death was never enough for restless souls.
Fazbear Frights was burnt down and now trying to find out what he missed.
Henry who done nothing after being forced out, blamed, shamed, forgotten, left in misery hears the Fazbear Frights burning and realize this pain he let happen, he did nothing about even when it took everything away from him, Henry just want it all to end and burn.
Henry not under fake Identity makes the Pizzeria Sim location and begin luring and gathering everything he found that haven be destroyed in this one location.
Pizza Sim happens in 2017 and Henry plans work in some way, but failed in stopping everything. Micheal could be alive? Helpy character came out fine, and the Mimic stuff he gather didn't Burn. (Likely was saved by firefighters putting out the fire)
Fazbear with little left only have 1 shot to save everything they built, that secret project to make games that was supposed to make light of the events, and Sue the man they Hire for everything they own.
FNAF Help wanted happen in the year 2019 and that Mimic programming now with agony of that final fire, and Afton old info he had in old circuit board makes a digital copy know as Glitchtrap, who Scar Jeremy again forcing his face to heal again. But find Vanessa, Vanessa Afton, the perfect person to manipulate and control.
Fazbear now with there Biggest Rebrand and new Owners with tons of money start the building of Mega Pizzaplexs.
FNAF AR happens too in 2020 as another way to poke fun at these story showing more that they have to be false but Vanessa and Glitchtrap are working, Brainwashing a young boy name Gregory and begins there plans for Pizzaplex first year take over for this area.
FNAF SB happen in 2023 and Ruin likely the following year.
Thats a lot, which is why a gave the Long warning. But this is what I believe for now.
I’d rather say the Mimic is Baby than Burntrap tbh.
Technically, Michael's character could've left during the fire but didn't so technically helpy could get out.
Michael never took the Job, much to Baby’s and Henry’s surprise.
@@justice8718 Huh? Of course it was Michael. Why else would he stay for the fire instead of taking the way out. Even Henry said he knew he wanted to stay. Who else would we be?
@@AlaskanBee It was Susie and we saw her post-fire body in the Security Logs book that featured scrapped baby.
@justice8718 Susie, be the ghost inside Chica. She literally can't
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when i first saw the mimic (have not read any of the newer books) i thought the face looked just like baby's endo from sister location
I'll say 1 thing
The chip doesn't look like that for no reason it's literally the same chip from a very old model that scott made and steelwool have nothing to do with it so it was clearly given to them by scott or they took it
I do agree its intentional, I just don't think its meant to mean Baby is literally the Mimic. Especially since nothing else adds up with that
@@ImpulseEvan37 it could mean a lot of things tbh we'll have to see
The only issue I have with the Fredbear's turning into Circus Baby's is that Pizza World in the novel trilogy is pretty huge. It has a ton of rooms and attractions inside it. I get the novel trilogy isn't that accurate to the games but Fredbear's in the novels is also about the same size as in the games and is in fact a different building. So i doubt they're the same.
The chip is not a power source, because it is a chip; or more appropriately it's a card/cartrage/mini-disk. It's a thing that you write data onto for storage and/or to transfer to another device. Disks/chips/cards cannot generate power; Scott and Steel Wool are knowledgeable about computers and programing; they know what a power source looks like, whether that's in the form of a car battery or a generator. They also know what a storage device looks like; which is the type of object Baby has you remove. You are correct in that that chip can't be Baby, but it could be either a program that runs/controls Baby or some kind of back-up method that stores information taken from Baby.
The circular disks / objects that get removed from Baby are similar in appearance to emitters; something that emits sound/soundwaves (like a smoke alarm) and listening devices or "bugs". This is why people believe they might be illusion disks as described in the books; because they are visually depicted as very, very close to a category of real-life object that has a shortlist of uses/functions.
I don't mean to come off as rude, but I mention this stuff because it's important to pay attention to how a storyteller might be trying to communicate information through shared cultural knowledge; Steel Wool and Scott know what these physical objects look like in the real world and are referencing those objects on purpose to suggestion what these fictional objects probably are.
Actually in the books, FNAF 6 is an in-universe game so it very much did NOT happen.
UCN having voices of their possessed dead kids isn't really proof of much as it's very unlikely UCN happened as-is at all. It's much more likely that UCN is Afton's personal endless nightmare, thus making the voices of the kids being there not really proof of anything that the robots are capable of doing.
Also the voice of Baby tells us already that "Ballora is in the room with us" meaning probably, Ennard. She says that "you must be careful, you must remain calm and listen to my voice." meaning Baby isn't so much lying to us, the player, in this moment. Yes, Ennard takes us out if we steer off the path. That's exactly what Baby told us. Actions = consequences. If someone tells you "There is a man with a gun in the building who shoots at anyone yelling" and you start yelling, are you suspecting the person who told you this information to be working together with the shooter? That doesn't make much sense.
Yes she is telling us that she's pretending. But she could simply be referring to the idea that the voice is not really coming from inside the exoskeleton.
If Ennard already could communicate to Michael, why go through the elaborate effort to pull that chip out? Even more, why specifically mention it should be stored in Hand Unit? Couldn't it have made up some bullshit that it was already connected to Hand Unit through some update the workers had installed in the previous night? Instead, they specifically mention Hand Unit. That's very interesting to me, as Helpy is kind of the modernised version of Hand Unit, no? Guides you through the game, gives you hints on where to go/what to do/what mechanics are. It's almost as if the framework of Hand Unit was used to create Helpy. And if that is true, then that chip - which Ennard or Baby (who IS part of the Ennard amalgamation at this point in time, and if we are to believe the excerpts of texts later found in the dialogue between two websites, Baby is "crowding us" and therefore the most likely person to speak here even if she is IN Ennard) told us to remove from Baby's arm after telling us we have to enter a passcode "before you can retrieve me" - is part of this framework.
It's also interesting that in the ending that follows, actually in both endings, the narrator is referencing Circus Baby and "her" (most likely speaking to Michael about Elizabeth) as third-person. They do so for all funtimes btw, not just Baby. As far as I know, Ennard is simply the combination of all Funtimes, and so there is no hidden 5th animatronic that could be speaking here.
As for where the robots in the FNAF universe get their power from, I think we can be very clear. Afton might have been a genius but there is simply no way a small chip like that would be capable of powering the entirety of that robot. Instead, I think that the robots function by being injected remnant. Initially they might have had simple power sources like an external or internal battery pack (FNAF 1 and 2 animatronics and the mediocre melodies) but eventually the robotics became more experimental.
What I find more interesting, and what is seemingly mentioned by no one, is WHY the animatronics got scooped. Specifically, why NOW. CB's entertainment and rental had been open for a while but as Baby tells us, "Something bad happened yesterday. Something bad always happens." Almost as if she scooped up another kid? "I don't want it to happen again / There is something bad inside of me" almost as if Baby is aware of her own programming or code? She mentioned it before in her recollection of the day she killed Elizabeth. "I would always count the children, I’m not sure why. I was always acutely aware of how many there were in the room with me." and "Something happened when there was one / I was no longer myself / I couldn’t move at least, not until she stepped closer / There was screaming for a moment, but only for a moment / Why did that happen?" And it's not JUST Baby getting scooped, they're all being scooped.
I mean CB and mimic have ties.
both are programmed to mimic voices and people,
both could have used same Mimic AI, which Afton probably stole,
and actual endoskeleton of CB could be mimic...
Wait, the story of candy cadet is that the monster learned the lullaby, that's saying baby if she is the mimic learned now to mimic voices over time, not right from sister location
always thought this!!! she loves to pretend, after all hehe
Evan, could Edwin made the endo 02 for the "unwithereds" after henry made the endo 01 for the classics? The classics are used in almost all the fazbear locations in the 80s for merch, plushies, tv shows, etc, while the unwithereds are used in security puppet location and the mci location
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Baby's endoskeleton is actually still in her shell, she's only missing her eyes, which also aren't in Ennard.
“Circus baby has already been here today”
@@ImpulseEvan37 Circus Baby previously being injected with Remnant from the SCoUPer doesn't change that we see the Circus Baby and Ennard endoskeletons the same room as separate constructs.
Ennard's model also doesn't change afterwards to show that Circus Baby's endoskeleton has joined with them later on.
If we just ignore that this theory exists and ignore people who take it seriously it will cease to exist (I'm delusional)
Sounds a lot better than trying to copy William
There’s no mention of Edwin at all in the games and there’s absolutely no tiger imagery to be found. I absolutely refuse to believe that all the Mimic’s lore is in the books. It’d be like the lore is paid DLC
In my opinion, THE ONLY story in game's continuity is "the mimic" from Nexie book
@henriquefigueiraferreira1608 That is impossible. The Mimic connects directly to The Storyteller, which connects to HAPPS, which connects to a majority of the other Tales stories, including GGY and Bobbiedots. Saying that *only* The Mimic is in the games' continuity is cherry picking.
There is also more evidence for all of Tales being in the games continuity than there is for it being an entirely separate timeline.
@@Angermations Explain me, why the minic doesnt have that rabbit ears in ruin? its the same thing with the man the room 1280 having 2 arms but scraptrap jus have one
@henriquefigueiraferreira1608 Mimic's design allows him to change his body shape at will, allowing him to fit into any mascot costume. He does this in the epilogues, changing his body design to be able to get into the costumes he uses. The rabbit ears could've just been broken off at some point, too. Either way, saying only The Mimic is canon still causes continuity problems, especially with the specific connections to almost every other Tales story.
And for The Man in Room 1280 having two arms, I'd like to point out that one little wrong detail doesn't really mean anything. It could be a writing error for all we know. Also, what does this have to do with The Mimic's continuity? Although I do believe the Stitchwraith Stingers and connected stories are in the games continuity, that is irrelevant to the current conversation.
@@Angermations "writting error", thats the most obvius part about scraptrap, and the mimic obvius rabbit ears not appearing in ruin is a total contradiction, he turns into a f*cking megazord at the climax of the mimic story in mxes, he's described totally a black burned endo eskeleton in the epiogues, in ruin he is dirty gray endo eskeleton
is sister location custom night canon now? given it was recreated in fnaf vr 2
Funtime animatronics ennard they mimic voices to and mimic is tall like sun moon eclipse Funtime animatronics nightmares Ennard to and Ennard mimic voice of Elizabeth to lead Michael to them to trick him like the mimic did to Cassie
Amd ennard uses get in a skin suit mascot to like mimic does
My voice means to deceive you Ennard Elizabeth circus baby
It's so bizarre, in all my playthroughs of HW2 I never got that chip part in the minigame. Didn't even know it existed until I saw John's video. Feel like if it was that important, it would be more explicit. Great analysis of Circus Baby toward the end of the video 👍
Very interesting and well-thought-out theory. Circus Baby might indeed be the mimic.
Nah
John is a cool dude bit that theory is a nothing burger because the mimic and baby serve diferent purposes. Thematically, i think
With all these circus connections, maybe The Mimic is from Circus baby's Pizza world and was kind of like The Puppet, they'd have different suits placed on their Endo and work the Prize counter or do other things like run smaller parties?
I still don't believe that tales are in games timeline
1:40 That’s not even *nearly* the bulk of the evicence - John has at least two old(ish) videos about this topic, maybe three iirc
You're noticing the bread crumbs! Lots of clues that point to the majority of the mini games to be training sims~ the pirate foxy voice lines being way less enthusiastic than in help wanted 1 also feels deliberate. A fake recreation lacking the touch of pure man made material. Just a thought, great video!
Man, this is so confusing
Like- what if the switches actually active the gas and so the gas leaks we heard of in SL were true with one being enabled in CBPW and so that means Elizabeth never died with the gas showing a scenerio that never happened and we even see Circus Baby do nothing to us when she hands us ice-cream in HW 2 and.... yeah. No, I don't believe that. What we've heard of about CBE&R with Dittophobia, all the pipes we see and vents that seem to be the ones leaking gas, and the gas leaks message we see in SL, it all seems to somehow connect, plus the fact Circus Baby never kills us in HW 2 after handing out an ice-cream. It's a VR experience, what could happen if she were to do that? I don't really know what that would do. For all we know Michael is actually alive because he never actually got scooped, it was just hallucinogenic gas, the real ending is him going to the safe room to hide away from Ennard that tries to chase him down, mimicking Elizabeth's voice.
I'm making a total fanfic now all because of the information we've been given because it seems to connect but it doesn't actually mean anything? Huhhh?
10:16 valid point but I don't think the mimic made the game. Yes maybe it hijacked the game but this error could've been made by fazbear entertainments dev team. Great theory however I do agree baby cannot be the mimic👍🏽
fazbear entertainment uses the mimic as a shortcut to create all these characters, meaning the mimic would have been the one responsible for this version of Baby
@@ImpulseEvan37 is that ever stated directly in the games?Oh sorry this is in the books... Idk I get the characters I'm not saying anything about baby being off I'm talking about the fact that the breaker room has the circus world lever it may be just an Easter egg or something
Yeah, I haven't really sided with Baby being the Mimic or a spring lock suit.
Matpat has compared Vanessa's "i don't like dark basements" to Baby in the facility; weird he didn't mention that HW2 line.
One reason I thought that Baby wouldn't snatch you is her being a KIDnapper, you might be too old. Her eyes are also green, unlike Elizabeth's fate, so maybe that affects a difference?
But speaking of Helpi, in HW2 he very much wants you to 'lose' and give Cassie the VANNI mask, seeing as he gets annoyed when you don't collect the faz force, and disappears if you do PQ4 beforehand. Ruin distinguished Helpi being the Mimic/sinister via his eyes tho this HW2 one "bears" no such distinction. Also in Ruin, blue eyed Helpi called the ghost rabbit an unknown entity implying it's not part of the MXES system...
The last part incorrect not only does yootooz who gives there rights to scott and ownership to scott for fnaf product's call the entity mxes but the unused files call him a sketal mesh ,mesh meaning a extended security control. And helpi says he's a anti virus lingering in the systems so yea no it's confirmed and been. Made pretty clear the entity is mxes
TBH never liked this theory lmao
It basically represents the biggest issue with the theory community as in that people look way too deep into shit even though the Mimic is more or less the most cut and dry clear case of lore we had in this franchise
No she's obviously not.
why are you talking that fast in the beginning?
Are you FrightsGames yet?
Nuh uh
No
It seams John has the mind set is this is my idea then finding proof instead of finding proof then making the theory
I am first
To me if mimic glitch trap and burn trap then it can’t be baby even though I’m more on the side the afton is glitch trap and burn trap weather that just him or it’s his soul attached to the mimic program I personally think but I will say I perfer baby being the mimic way more there so much more evidence and similarities to the 2 then afton and the mimic fnaf lore going to be hard now because if mat pat leaving but hopefully Tom and all the other theorist fnaf theorist can solve it
Baby doesn't have more proof than burntrap and glitchtrap being mimic.
And tales tell us mimic is just doing his programming he's not possesed at all.
And
BURNTRAP and glitchtrap is the mimic the epplouge has mimic match Burntrap 1 to 1 and glitchtrap mimics tape girl in hard level of bonk a bon
I think Baby's actions in Help Wanted 2 ARE a good imitation of how she acts in Sister Location. She's toying with us, obviously, but you know from experience not to trust her. Then the game hits you with the wammy at the end when you are forced to accept her "murder ice cream" to escape the level. It's like Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka, but better; you never know if you can trust her since she lied once already.