A Failed Defect Detector and the Train Derailment at East Palestine
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
- Defect Detector had a bad day and gave multiple hot axle alerts.
Hear the defect messages and find out why the defect detector went haywire.
At the end of the video I will take you inside the detector cabinet and you
can watch the detector as a train passes. There have been no future errant
messages since this video was taken.
Also will give you my thoughts on the horrible Norfolk Southern train
derailment at East Palestine, Ohio. It is so very sad to see events
like this happen. It is not good for the community nor for the railroad
industry.
That was an eastbound NS general merchandise freight train which derailed on
main track 1. As a result of the derailment, 38 rail cars derailed and a fire ensued
that damaged an additional 12 cars. There were 20 total hazardous material cars in
the train consist, 10 of which derailed,
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Made February 12 & 14, 2023
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#DefectDetector#TrainDerailmentEastPalestine#TrainDerailment
The NTSB issued a preliminary report on what happened at
East Palestine. Report was issued February 23. Here is a link to the community tab
on my home channel page where you can read the report.
ruclips.net/user/postUgkxXbwjK74K3m78tmxUzEsJBWCnIN5l3DWA
RUclips shut that down. I can not watch it.
Thanks for sharing this I really enjoy your videos my friend!
@@vinnypinatelli221 👍😊
@@MydogTobes no they didn't, it's not a link to a video, it's a link to a community post with a link to the article.
@carmineredd * 13:44
Dave, I have confirmation that it WAS indeed a burned off journal. Inside wheel, and what's causing all the sparks is the wheel is being pulled against the brake beam and causing the wheels to slide at high speed. The bearing was trending for 3 detectors prior, the dispatched failed to notify the crew. Like you had said this all started right after the Salem detector and by the time they got to the E. Palestine detector it was beginning to derail. They went into emergency before the engineer could react, and that's all she wrote. This information comes directly from NS supervision at Conway yard, relayed to my my supervision.
Thank you very much for the valuable and accurate information.
We really appreciate your taking the time to share that with us
my good man.
I have no clue what NS rules are as far as trending bearings go, ie.,
how much of a bearing temperature increase is allowed between detectors, let us hope dispatch followed NS protocol on that.
So the detectors on that route don't report when it's determined a hot box then?
The "Key" piece of information being "the dispatched failed to notify the crew"
@@MaidensWorldOfWax Electronic detectors and their transmitter supposedly send information on any anomaly with the train to the engineer by shortwave radio. Number of axels back from the loco if any errors and total axels if all was OK at the end of the train.
I bet the people with the 3 initials in the offices on the top floor told dispatch to ignore the alarms and get the train to the destination Because it was running late.
Precision railroading is going to kill a lot of people
I trust your info much more than a non railroad reporter. Thank you for the info.
Thanks Michael, I watched a few news reports and yep, reporters
don't have a clue, thought I would share some real railroad info
with you guys.
You know what I like about you? Besides you’re so nice and you take the time to do this for us! You’re such a genuinely happy person! No matter what! You rock brother!
Well golly.... I'm blushing..... Thank you for your very kind words.
We very much appreciate your taking the time to watch and
write in tonight my friend.
Right? Heck of a cheery disposition, especially for a troubleshooter with a problem. I sure wouldn't be smiling with a problem like that to deal with.
Having one of the best jobs in the world probably helps in the Happiness department.
How dare you call him a rock brother. Wait, what's a rock brother?
Agreed. There are a few channels I can always count on to being a smile to my face, and this is definitely one of them! I love the positivity that comes through on all of these videos as well as the very informative content!
Very informative. Years ago for a couple of mornings I heard a screeching noise. Didn't know the source. I happened to be up earlier another morning and heard it approaching from a distance. Got dressed and walked 1/8 mile to the end of our street to the rail line. Train was coming out of the yard 2 miles away. Sound was very loud. Got the numbers from the car and called the railroad. Apparently they took care of the problem. How it went undetected for several days is scary.
It went undetected because they are used to false alarms and disregard them as such .
You saved lives
Thank you for the nice comment Lawrence. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.
Wow Dave, I learned more from you in 10 minutes about the Ohio NS derailment than the 2 weeks of so-called reporting in the news, NS press releases or NTSB reports, and even though speculation, you explained enough for me to understand what I see there now, thank you!
The weird thing is that they enact new regulations to supposedly change things for the better but end up doing nothing. There has been a lot of talk about improved braking technology but this latest accident is most likely nothing to do with that. To put in perspective on a 150 car train there are 1200 wheel bearings. Only one failure most likely lead to this. The other thing is a safety system that gives to many false alarms will be ignored.
@@paulnicholson1906 too* many.
Defective tech...simple as that? How about the train in Michigan as well? BOTH carrying hazardous materials... Coincidence?
Wake up it was Amtrak Joe that did it... Nobody can cause a better train wreck and in this case that is fact
@@thekingsilverado3266 not a bad joke.
Thank you for explaining what could have happened in Ohio. My heart breaks for people and animals affected. And this will be affecting all these people for years.
Shooting down weather balloons is more important than maintenance on trains.
You cannot return to the 3x5 mile downwind area safely for a long time or soil must be removed. Children, gardens and pets will be exposed to a cocktail from incomplete combustion and soot.
@@wolfgangk2824 I think that is the poison talking point they keep putting out. Every time you hear it you hear a maga crawling under a rock.
Your very welcome Beverly, for sure we are all heart broken for
the residents there. This kind of stuff casts a bad light on all
the rail industry. Thanks so much for visiting with us and
writing in my friend.
@@SovereignTroll working on a solutions video, corn and lavender can pull contaminates from the soil, they're used to reclaim mining land that's been wrecked. Various fungus and bacteria can break down contaminates into non toxic elements. Activated charcoal can be used in your soil to neutralize (for lack of better word atm) the toxins as well, holding them in the little crevices until they break down or some worm, fungus or bacteria breaks them down first. Restoring the land can be done and rather quickly implementing these techniques. The water is what I'm more concerned about. I need to research more about this and the natural path from the area affected to give a respectable solution.
The fear-porn click bait videos without solutions is no help to the community and much of it isn't accurate. It's very frustrating. Seems there's an effort to bolster distrust in public servants and businesses which do themselves no help by their corruption and greed. This building up, unchecked will only bait us into destroying ourselves from within. Not a good thing. We got to build and fix things, not burn ourselves down so the enemy can swoop in and finish us off.
So, have a blessed week! 😂
🙏💯😊👍🕊️💯
Working at a plant that builds and tests locos for a living, we here can appreciate the complexities of these various safety systems, and the fact that sometimes the sensor itself is the problem.
This Ohio situation interests and concerns me greatly.
Good video, thanx! 👍
Today the NTSB has issued a preliminary report on what happened at E. Palestine. Here is link to the community tab on my home channel to read what the report says Robert:
ruclips.net/user/postUgkxXbwjK74K3m78tmxUzEsJBWCnIN5l3DWA
@@ccrx6700
So now I'm wondering if the electronic brake systems that there's been so much attention focused on would have made any difference, since the derail wasn't apparently even verified until after the train had already stopped. 🤔
My understanding is that it would auto apply brakes to cars that are *behind* the derail, to prevent them crashing into the ones ahead of them.
But then, aren't air brakes designed to "fail-safe" and apply braking if they lose air pressure anyways? 🤔
@robertway5756 yes they are Robert. Once train brake pipe loses air then all brakes are applied
For us railroadies who love anything and everything dealing with the rails, I thank you for your videos, and thanks to my Brother Craig Brown who worked for NS for over 30 yrs, I follow their derailments and other events.
Thank you so much Rodney for your very nice comment. We really
appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in today my
friend.
Dave, your commentary is exemplary regarding the Ohio incident and I hope a cause is determined quickly.
Thank you for the very nice comment Ron. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.
Back in the late 1970's when I was in junior high school we were sitting at a crossing in town and one of the cars had a flaming wheel box. As soon as we got home my dad called the local police department and reported it to them so they could call the railroad.
Thank you very much for sharing that with us. Yes sir, good move
on your dad's part. Very much appreciate your paying us a visit
and checking out the presentation my friend.
narc, I would not report it, I would follow the train with my camera on so I could catch the derailment and sell the video.
Hi Dave!
BTW, those tank cars derailed in accordion fashion because they are equipped with shelf couplers.
Designed to keep cars from coming apart and having a coupler puncture the tank car.
I love watching your videos.
Thanks!
Thank you very much for the nice comment. We certainly do
appreciate your paying us a visit and watching the presentation
my friend.
great video. kinda worrisome that a space heater not working caused a issue. there are way more reliable means to maintain certain temps than that. with redundancy. probably cheaper too! subscribed ! look forwards to watching more on your content
Great video Dave. As a retired electronics technician I have seen different environments and especially cold do pretty strange things to the equipment. Have a great day my friend.
Thanks Lewis, glad you enjoyed. Appreciate your input from
an expert in the field of electronics. I'm very glad you told me
that info, will most certainly come in handy knowing that
sometime in the future around here. Always is a delight to have you
visit and write in my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I do Electronics as a job also I would guess it got cold and you had water between 2 spots on 1 of the green board's. Once the temp got up the water went away. Fault now gone.
@@Ottos_ScLm_Race_videos_2009_on - 100% condensation was the first thing i thought of when he said the heater fixed it.
@@paintballthieupwns For as much as they charge for that equipment, the boards should have a conformal coating, like the ECU in a car that costs 1/5 the price.
Someone cocked up on the environmental spec for the PC boards and cabinets.
Thank you for the explanations/demonstrations. In time a better understanding of the events in Ohio will be known from the causal factors, and subsequent events. Prayers for the people impacted by the event, and hope their conditions are improved quickly.
Better get a grip on who & what is causing all this chaos... Communist Amtrak Joe & da Hoe...
Thank you very much Kevin for the nice comment. We certainly do
appreciate your paying us a visit and watching the presentation
my friend.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us, Dave. I've heard all sorts of crazy claims, including the idea that Norfolk Southern is derailing trains on purpose for some mysterious, nefarious purpose. Glad to have a dose of sanity and reason.
Not surprised that a computer would malfunction with the heater off -- they do tend to be sensitive to temperature and moisture. :)
Your very welcome MB. Thank you for the very nice comment. I listened to several news broadcasts and these reporters don't have
a clue about railroading. Conspiracy theorists seem to abound
in this day and age don't they. These events are very sad and
cast a dim light on the entire rail industry. Very, very sad to see
this happen. We really appreciate your watching and writing in
my friend.
As of yesterday NTSB confirmed a wheel bearing went bad
and the train went into emergency after the car derailed and
air hoses came apart. The axle with the bad bearing did skew
and press against the brake beam which applied the brakes
as it was going down track before the derailment. So I was
right in that the car wheels were sliding causing the sparks.
@@ccrx6700 Thank you so much for that update.
Some people just don't grasp the fact that accidents happen sometimes and nothing made by the hand of man is 100% failure proof.
@@mbvoelker8448 👍😊
@@ccrx6700 Is it just a conspiracy theory that the company and the propaganda news tried to hide info on what hazmats were spilled and that the entire area is now safe and effective? I am a railfan and subscriber to your channel and do not believe the wreck was intentionally caused by crew or maintenance. I DO believe we are being constantly lied to by those who we pay and expect to be truthful. The word "secret" is repugnant in a free society. JFK
@@meanwolverine4573 this was not an intentional event my friend. Albeit tho a very very sad one
Thanks for the teaching on this. As you said you are not this expert on this incident, but your understanding into what MIGHT have happened is still highly interesting. We will wait for the NTSB report. Thanks for you sharing your knowledge and doing so honestly as you know it. Your videos are always so family friendly and so worth watching every one! Thanks again!
Thank you Jeff for the very kind comment. I agree, NTSB report
will give us the info. But I did want to share some things
that most folks don't know about with detectors and derailments.
I will be most interested in learning what they find out. And you
are correct, my hypothesis is what MIGHT have happened.
We certainly appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.
Given the behavior of the uhm person supposedly in charge of NTSB that report will be quite a while yet.
Thank you Dave! Sometimes I think technology makes the job more complicated, when the equipment malfunctions. Thank you for sharing your expertise about the train wreck!
Thank you very much for paying us a visit Raymond. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the nice comment
my friend.
Thanks for this sane look at this
tragedy! I too am a former rail-
roader and feel sorry for the
people getting flack while just
doing their jobs, whether train
crew, investigators or whoever.
I’d hate to see anyone lose their
job in a knee jerk reaction, instead of waiting for all the info
is in! I also feel sorry for NS as a
whole, or maybe railroading in
general, as this is going to be
very expensive!
Thank you for the very nice comment TPW. You are right, it is
very sad for everyone involved and not good for the entire
rail industry.We very much appreciate your taking the time to
stop by today and watch my friend.
I found this to be educational...with the wreck in Ohio people for some reason have been more vocal about what railroads transport and the safety measures they take. Accidents happen but catastrophic ones are hard to get over.
Thank you Michael for the very nice comment. Glad you enjoyed.
We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to watch and
write in my friend. Yes, sadly things like this happen, it is not
good for the entire rail industry and yes you are right, this will
be a big one to get over.
"for some reason" come TF on dude. You know the reason. And the railroad unions have been warning of staff shortages and cuts leading to less maintenance getting done, and less people for car checks to find problems.
@@WaterMan416 The timing of the event so soon after the Administration decided that Rail Workers are not pushed beyond the limits of human ability, seemed to be very wrong?
The economic devotion to Profits before People seems to become evident as the Investors appear to be the only folks the Government defends?
Shareholder values seem to have wandered beyond the limitations of human ability?
Hollywood could not have written a more stupid script......
Thanks for sharing yes scary stuff no matter how hard we try it all happens sometimes. And hot box detectors like axle counters, scotch blocks etc all can have intermittent faults...we have a Junction here in the State of Victoria in Australia called Newport near Melbourne, it used to be an old interlocking manned frame signal-box, looked like it was straight out of England in the 1800s it never failed now its been up graded with electronics, every time it rains it faults out all signals back to danger tracks down etc....we now call Newport "malfunction junction"....lol...thanks for sharing...regards
Doc from Down Under
Now isn't that quite interesting! Thanks so much for sharing Doc.
We have 4 electric switches, 3 work perfect all the time, every
time it rains the 4th one shorts out and needs to be reset. Had
a guy from Union Pacific tell me they had a similar problem with
a new electric switch and finally just had to put a whole new
one in. Malfunction junction... I like that. Always appreciate
your visiting and hearing from you my friend from down under.
Great stuff Dave. The ‘inside look’ at this equipment and how it operates is very interesting and much appreciated.
Thank you very much for paying us a visit Theodore. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the nice comment
my friend.
Thanks for your expert assessment of the horror in Ohio. Hopefully the details come out soon as to why/what/when/etc.
Thank you John very much for the nice comment. We certainly do
appreciate your paying us a visit and watching the presentation
my friend. NTSB are the real experts and hopefully soon will
see their report.
Dave,
Great video as usual! As you and I have spoken about many times before. Things happen on the rails no one could ever guess why. So much technology has been Intergraged over the years some for the best some not so good! Nothing and I mean nothing will ever replace the human eyes the human touch or smell. Those are all useful on the railroad. You can see when something is not right you can feel when something is not right and you can smell when something is not right. There is something about my sight feel and smell that's not right about the NS derailment....like you I was not there I was not at the throttle something caused the train to go into e brake busted hose or in the cab. As your video proved defeat degectors are not always 100 percent...as bad as this sounds I hope that was the case and the in cab crew didn't ignore the warning
..time will tell...let the cards fall as they may either way NS has a major clean up
After working in this industry for decades I am going to take a slight exception to the comment "nothing will replace human eyes'. I get what you are saying and I agree...somewhat. But humans make mistakes. They don't pay attention. They run red lights. The speed. They cut you off in traffic. They don't look back over their train. They don't check their airplane before taking off. With trains exceeding a mile in length more dependence on technology becomes vital.
@@cdavid8139 I agree with what you are saying too. However, we have become so dependent on technology that it has made us lazy. In my final years with norfolk southern. All I had to do was rely on trip optimizer and let it go. More knuckles were broken while running TO than any other time in my career...first thing that's asked was from the dispatcher...was train in trip optimzer...once I said yes they said ok.... had I said no paperwork meetings and all kinda mess would have been in play. You can listen to a locomotive feel it beneath you and know what's going on.... guages are good they make it easier. You can smell a scorched pan of potatoes and not have to stir the pot so to speak. We are a computerized world like it or lump it we have taken so much of the human element out of every day life. Railroads are no exception. Given Dave's situation in his latest video. They had 4 people pk the ground as the train went by ...don't think for one minute a class 1 would have done that...only after a derailment
@@jason27swg I hear what you are saying. Not sure I disagree with what you wrote...on the hole. On the other hand you know for a fact that there are trainmen (and truckers and sailors) who are not 100 percent dependable. How many times when you were running did you find yourself nodding off or look over and see your conductor paying no attention to what was going on around them. Somewhere out there a blend of technology and common sense works best
I just mentioned in another video about planes encountering more close calls that the human condition is what it is and functions poorly in boredom. I mentioned in yet another video thread that the timing of this incident immediately followed the spy matter. Just how much of rail load contents is available on line or is it all internal? Who is this administration allowing into our country? This aspect CANNOT be dismissed. Can these sensors be temporarily defeated and no one be the wiser?
From inside sources, the dispatcher ignored the trending hotbox alert. The bearing failed after passing a detector and once it was a hit it was too late, no way to stop in time.
Thanks for sharing your insight into what may have happened in Ohio..can't imagine the horrible tragedy those folks were/are going through. And thanks for showing us what a headache faulty detection devices can be. Great video Dave!
Your very welcome Jim, it is very sad what happened our hearts
go out to all involved. We certainly do appreciate your dropping
by and checking out the presentation today my friend.
I've been watching this derailment news for over two weeks and nobody is blaming a detection device.
It's all about the brakes, and brake updates Obama wanted that Trump removed.
Very interesting video! I’ve never seen the inside of a DD before, always expected it to be a bit more... chaotic. I’ve heard that voice in a few different spots, sounds so much different without the radio grain! Thanks for uploading as always.
Thank you very much for paying us a visit Ryan. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for your always nice comments
my friend.
I feel really sad my heart goes out to people that were in that train accident thank you for the information 🙏🙏
Your very welcome Mel, yes sir it was so sad it all happened.
Most RR safety rules were written in blood, hopefully this
tragedy will bring on new and improved safety rules for the
rail industry. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with us
my friend.
Another great video as usual, and thanks for the input on the Ohio derailment. An unfortunate event but I'm glad it was not worse. Love watching those SD38-2s do their thing, they're basically just an improved SD7 or SD9, long lineage back to the first six axle diesels.
Thank you Larry, very glad you enjoyed it. We certainly do appreciate
your stopping by and watching the show today my friend.
Great job explaining that Dave, I'm sure you helped alot of people (including myself) understand what happened.
Thank you Eric. NTSB has recovered the truck set that first
derailed and it is being sent to a lab for investigation. What we
did find out today, new info. A bearing failed, axle skewed and
was pressing against the brake beam which acted like the
brakes were applied and the wheels were sliding on the rails,
so I was right in part of my speculation. Thanks so much for
watching and writing in my friend.
Thank you Dave this was very interesting. My thoughts go out to the people of Ohio. You and your team work hard to keep everyone safe on the rails. Keep safe :)
Your very welcome Wendy, glad you enjoyed. Yes we all feel
for the residents and businesses in E. Palestine along with the
train crew. Thank you very much for watching and writing in
my friend.
Really appreciate your expert "speculation" on the rail disaster....thank you Dave!
Thank you fireball, don't know about expert, but have come to
find out the truck set wheels were in fact sliding on the rails
causing the sparks. A wheel bearing had gone bad and skewed
the axle so it was pushing against the brake beam holding
the brakes on. That new info just came to light this afternoon
by NTSB.Always appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.
Dave , your hot box timing and the Ohio incident upload together has got you some nice hits, good going….👍
It appears that's true. Rather weird this detector decided to
goof up at this time. I think the little guy living in the cabinet
got lonely and wanted some attention, well, he got it and now
he's a big YT star.... LOL Thank you very kindly for dropping by
and checking out the presentation my friend.
Thank you for explaining about the train going into emergency and the cars ending up jack knifed in a zig-zag fashion. I had wondered about that since seeing the first reports of this. If I understood you correctly, you mentioned being about 50 miles away from the derailment in PA. I hope you are now where close to being in the down wind path of the smoke. I feel really sorry for those people, not just in East Palestine, but anyone within 50 to 100 miles down wind is likely to have toxic fall out on their property. And, anyone along the Ohio River for many miles is likely to see the results of contamination. You be careful and stay safe.
Your certainly welcome Bryan. We appreciate your taking the time to watch the presentation and share with us your thoughts my friend.
yes we all feel really bad for the residents there. Very sad.
Dave... I'm in Ohio and family within a few miles of the accident unfortunately. I appreciate your channel, educational info, eyes view of railroad life, and explaining possible likelihoods (or not). I'm from the environmental remediation sector also, so this one hits close to my heart in many ways. The entire video was refreshing to watch. Again, thank you.
Thank you for the very nice comment, so glad you are enjoying the
videos. We really appreciate your wonderful support my friend.
That was an extreme tragedy at EP. Sadly most RR safety rules in
the past were written in blood. Hopefully new and improved
safety regulations will now be made for the industry.
The NTSB today has issued a preliminary report on what happened
at E. Palestine you may like to read. Here is a link to the community
tab on my home channel page where you can read the report.
ruclips.net/user/postUgkxXbwjK74K3m78tmxUzEsJBWCnIN5l3DWA
Thank you so much for the commentary on the East Palestine derailment Dave! I've been following that incident, and wondered what the pros were thinking about it. I can relate to your defect detector. Sometimes you just need a little warmth to get you going in the morning 😉
If you were wanting a pro comment, you should look for another
channel.... LOL Very much appreciate the nice comment and
for watching my friend. I saw several news reports and it's
like, wow these reporters don't have a clue....
Another fantastic explanation Dave! I read a few articles online about Ohio but I don't believe much in the media. I really like how you pointed out how and why the cars were stacked the way they were. 👍👍
Thank you Dennis for the very nice comment. news media I watched
the reporters were clueless about RR. Glad we don't have these
kind of incidents on the DBRX. You run a tight ship my friend!
It also sounds like the people running these trains have to be A. Brave, lol, bc I ain't getting out and walking the entire length of a train, on track in the middle of the woods, alone at night lol!
And B. They also seem to have to be extremely patient... Because this man said "at walking speed" 😳 THAT must make for a LONG night at work!!!
Given the people running the train that night wasn't rushing or that they they did everything they could to prevent this or even didn't know there was problem....and I don't even know if they lived, I haven't looked that much into it....I definitely appreciate the ones that do their job to a T even if it means traveling at a walking pace, for safety sake, and not getting home for probably HOURS later than they were supposed to.
We live next to a railroad track where a train comes through often and there are a LOT of children living in just my apartment complex alone. I can't imagine that happening right outside my back door!! It's very scary, but it's also comforting to know there are guys out there that absolutely do everything right to prevent accidents from happening and communities from having to deal with utter destruction.
Again, I thank you ❤️♥️
Another great video and tutorial on the East Palestine derailment and the problem with the defect detector there. How crazy was it that Jerry fixed it by turning the heater on lol! Always enjoy your videos Dave and no matter what the problem is you take the time to explain to us railfans what caused it along with a possible resolution. You're always happy and certainly enjoy what you do to produce a great video! We appreciate you along with your PRICELESS time and effort my friend! Cheers from Delmar, Delaware
Thank you for the very nice comment Shawn. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.
This is why I love your channel - honest, awesome, informative.
Golly Tony, what a very nice comment. Thank you so much
for taking the time to watch and write in my friend. We really
do appreciate that.
@@ccrx6700 my pleasure man! keep up the good work. whereabouts are you guys?
@@TonyLasagna thank you we in SW Pa. Hour south Pittsburgh
@@ccrx6700 gotcha. you’ve probably said that in a video before but sometimes these things escape me. 👌🏻😆
@@TonyLasagna 👍😊
Excellent presentation, Dave. Lots of things can and do go wrong.
Thank you Shirley for the kind comment We do so appreciate
your faithful watching my friend.
Glad you put in the caption comments. I know you were NOT assigning blame, because I've watched enough of your videos that I think I know you wouldn't do that. But adding the captions certainly helps to clarify that. Like explaining that it wasn't the engineer that threw the train into emergency, but rather the separation of the brake line.
Good job to hear from someone knowledgeable and that you don't second-guess what happens. If only more news outlets would do the same. I've heard so many networks speculating about everything from unions, to regulators, to who-knows-what. Before all the facts are known.
Just glad nobody was killed, and hope there won't be any long-lasting effects of the spill.
Thank you Mike for the very kind words. Yes sir, that was why
those captions were in there, I would never blame an engineer
or even cast doubt about one, that is for the NTSB to determine.
I really appreciate that you recognized what I was trying to do
there! Very much appreciate your writing in with that my friend.
Hi Mr Dave I heard about that horrible accident, you explained it very well, it was awful, stay safe and keep up the good work.
Thank you Barbara, yes it was tragic, no one in the rail industry
likes to see stuff like that happen. Thank you for your kind words
and for taking the time to watch my friend.
Thank you very much for this very interesting and informative video presentation which is very much appreciated by the people. We are grateful for talking about the situation in Ohio, though I am sure that there will be a major enquiry into what happened. It shows the importance of these hot axle / hot wheel detectors. Just a little warm air seemed to sort out the problem of your detector. I am aware that electrical items do not like things too cold or for that matter too hot. It is always reassuring to hear those words, "no defects".
Your very welcome John and thank you so much for your very
nice comment. It certainly is hearing no defects, you don't know
how good it feels to hear that. Everytime a train passes the
detector you always have this little voice in your head anxiously
awaiting a good call. Always appreciate your paying us a
visit and hearing from you my friend.
We had a similar situation last month with a hot wheel on an eastbound train, we have multiple hot wheel detectors along the ROW and the dispatchers are always monitoring it, the hot wheel caught the attention of the dispatcher and let the train continue on until it passed the third hot wheel detector and notified the train crew to set out the car in town.
Apparently new info out Jason, this bearing went bad which caused
the skewed axle to press against the brake pads which sent the
wheel sliding along the rail. However also, this bearing had
been trending for 3 detectors back from E. Palestine. Since
the detector did not give an alarm, engineer didn't get a message.
However NS had it set up so a warning message was sent
to dispatch about it trending. We do not know what NS protocol
is for the amount of temp increase allowed for each succeeding
detector, nor do we know the bearing temps at each detector.
Hope and pray dispatch followed NS rules.
@@ccrx6700 Dispatch caused the derailment in Paulsboro, NJ also.
Thanks for the straight insight Dave! Back when I was railroadin hot boxes were checked immediately but reading the comments it seems the procedure has changed and the crew may not even be notified of a developing issue until apparently it's too late. Seems a terrible practice to delay Inspection
Your very welcome Matt, apparently in this case a bearing was
getting hot, engineer did not get a message because an alarm
was not sent by the detector. However detector was programmed
to send a warning message to dispatch of a trending hot bearing.
We do not know what NS protocol is for how much of a temp
increase is allowed between detectors nor do we know the
exact bearing temps that were recorded. NTSB will find that
info out. Appreciate your watching my friend.
What a great video! As a " non-expert" , your comments and insights are both instructive and timely!
Thank you, very glad you enjoyed it. We certainly do appreciate
your stopping by and watching the show today my friend.
Dave, I know exactly where that hot wheel (and dragging equipment) detector in Salem is. Visited the very same spot with an NS signal technician a few years back when I was doing some consulting work for one of their suppliers. You guys aren't the only ones who have to constantly deal with issues in those detectors. Given the environment that those sensors have to endure it's a wonder they work at all. What the NS guys really hated about them was when it snows they constantly have to run around clearing the snow off of them to keep them from throwing faults when a train passes over.
Very interesting Jeff, thanks so much for sharing. Cameras have
heaters in them which help with a light snow, but heavy snow
have to keep them cleaned off too. Always appreciate your
paying us a visit and hearing from you my friend.
The detectors have a camera and a noncontact thermopile like the kind in a forehead fever thermometer inside. If dirt or snow or water gets in, they are not gonna work properly.
Very interesting video Dave. Modern technology is a wonderful thing....when it works! Unfortunately failures do occur and can lead to less than desirable outcomes.
Thank you Richard, glad you enjoyed. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.
Thanks Dave for the video. Your insight is always welcome.
Your very welcome John. Thank you for taking the time to
watch the presentation and write in my friend.
Very interesting hearing your speculations on the dynamics of possible train derailments. that's a big share Dave and informative. Thanks Much!
Very glad you enjoyed mjm. We really appreciate your stopping
by and taking in the presentation today my friend.
Nice explanation Dave. I don't know about NS, but I know BNSF has gone to "talk on defect only" on their wayside detectors (as a railfan that was a disappointment because I used to hear the detectors when taking pictures so I could predict when a train was near my location). So it is possible that the defector was inoperative and didn't announce a defect - and if NS has that same rule, the crew might of not known there was an alarm. From the news reports I've seen the NTSB seems to be on that and they've pulled the detector's local logs, so when the final report comes out it will say if the detector was malfunctioning or not.
It seems that a "talk on defect only" method would mask a detector error. If the detector is talking, even saying "no defects", then at least you know it's up and running.
@@JetSetDiva In BNSF's case, the "talk on defect only" does announce "Detector Working" when a hi-rail truck goes over it, presumably to let the track inspector or work crew know the detector detected them, but again, it doesn't say if each of the various elements are working.
It's been a few years, but I think the move was more to cut down on the radio traffic or have the detector "walk" over the dispatcher/crews than anything.
Thank you for the very nice comment MW. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.
NS on the Fort Wayne line has message given to the engineer
when their is a critical alarm, not a warning. Trending warning
message are sent to dispatch. Also on our detector there has
to be a minimum of 5 axles cross before it will give any message,
that is to prevent MOW equipment from setting it off. However
it still reads MOW bearing temps, if there was a hot bearing
on an MOW equipment then it would announce that.
According to the reports coming out now from the ongoing investigation it was a bearing that failed. Not dissimilar to the one you had on you're coal train some time back. Camera footage showing it in the "late stages of bearing faleure" before derailment. And they are sending what's left off for metallurgical testing to try to figure out why it failed. Basicly the root cause was a mantinence issue, failed mechanical part. There's a growing debate about federal regs that were scrapped years ago that could have minimized the severity of the derailment, aswell as questions about exactly why the clearly hazardous cargo wasn't requiered to be handled as such by NS via regulations. There seems to be a lot of blame being put on the govt by individuals online (partisan politics) and even consperacy theories propagating. All of which I find shameful. Real lives are being impacted by this, dead pets, risk of serious cancers down the road, water and land contamination. And the hyper politicization helps none of them.
Well the conspiracy theorists are usually on to something and eventually proven correct in their pursuits of the truth. The virus could not have come from a lab for example.
Yes Virginia, there ARE evil people in high places who want to eliminate 7 billion, 500 million people from this planet. They use any and all means to acheive their goals. Drugs, hazmats, wars. Their bloodlines have been rulers and royalty for millennia. It will be easier to control 500,000,000 slaves than 8 billion. They do not care what your politics or ethnicity are. This is why many "folks" distrust big business and government. Rule #1, do not trust your mainstream news or government. They are paid by the "cabal". They will steer you toward danger, not from it! YOU are the carbon (((they))) want to eliminate...
There are whole books of regulation on hazmat shipments, none of them worked.
Don't you think there is any responsibility, if maximizing profit over safety?
@mrtechie6810 there's always responsibility. What caused the derailment to happen was a mechanical faleure. But the responsibility lies in the decisions that made the derailment worse via opposing/lobbying against electronic breaking mandate, running much longer trains, even axle builders buying cheap Chinese bearings that don't hold up as long or as well compared to US produced.
Thanks for the East palestine explainer, Dave! Very helpful to hear your veteran take on it. Always enjoy your videos. You're a born teacher! (Btw I'll say hi to Tim for you!)
Thank you Fred. NTSB has recovered the truck set that first
derailed and it is being sent to a lab for investigation. What we
did find out today, new info. A bearing failed, axle skewed and
was pressing against the brake beam which acted like the
brakes were applied and the wheels were sliding on the rails,
so I was right in part of my speculation. Thanks so much for
watching and writing in my friend.
Another GREAT video. Out of all of the News outlets that have been covering this Story, Dave’s Videos are ALWAYS right on Target. Thank you for all you Do Sir. 1 of the BEST channels on RUclips.
Thank you very much James for the kind words and for taking the time to check out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Dave, nothing worse to do than diagnose an intermittent problem. I would think there's a way to look at a history report in that computer and see exactly what the readings are from the infrared cameras. That way you could at least tell which of the 4 cameras is flaky. Interesting stuff and thanks for educating us.
You are sure right in that gfriedman. The computer we have stores
100 trains then starts to write over them. Our guy was on phone
later that day with tech from progress rail, although I don't know
what they came up with but detector has worked perfectly since.
Very much appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.
Good on-site demonstration. Thanks.
Thank you very much for the nice comment. We certainly do
appreciate your paying us a visit and watching the presentation
my friend.
Dave I want to tell you something buddy- you’re doing a great service to everyone by putting together this video. It’s much appreciated!
East Palestine is truly a catastrophe, but the government’s response to intentionally ignore the residents health and safety concerns along with denying assistance like FEMA, is a tragedy also.
Those people were sacrificed by the “controlled” burn and forsaken by their government who seems to value Ukrainian lives more.
Thank you for the very nice compliment Pete.
What happened at E. Palestine was a tragedy. We feel so sorry for all
involved, the residents and the RR. We will await for the official
NTSB report. They will investigate every single detail of all
the events that happened. This is a very high profile case with
all the lawsuits filed and environmental concerns. A lot of
money will be riding on their findings.
So very sad it happened. In the past a lot of RR safety rules
have been written in blood sadly. Hopefully this tragic incidence
will bring into play a new, better set of safety regulations for
the rail industry. We certainly do appreciate your watching
the video and for writing in my friend.
Thanks Dave my heart and Prayers go to the people of that town.
Your welcome Frank, yes sir what a tragedy for the folks and RR
out there, Stuff like that is never good for the RR industry. Thanks
so much for your thinking of those folks and praying for them,
we all need to follow your suit on that my good man.
Thanks for bringing trains, and railroading to us. I'm a Rock Island AB6 fan!
Your very welcome Joe. We certainly appreciate your taking the
time to stop by and watch my friend.
Interesting speculation on one the most talked about derailments of the decade..
At the end of the video I was laughing so hard at the defect detector! Especially when turning a space heater on fixed the issue.. That's one those gremlin situations! Interesting to see those situations don't just effect the model train world..
Thank you for the very nice comment Brandon. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.
Thank you for showing us how this stuff works, I have to say you make a lot more sense then the media!
You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed the presentation. We
really appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend.
Dave, Thank you for being a great teacher and professional!
Thank you John for the very kind words. We really appreciate
your taking time out of your busy day to watch the video and
write in my friend. Curious, are your the John Murray photographer
who took a pic of our original #1 loco with the blue US Steel
cars over top of our tunnel? If so my wife bought that photo
for me for Christmas this year
@@ccrx6700 Dave, I’m not the photographer John Murray you mentioned in your note.
@John Murray ok thanks for let me know. He has some stunning photography of trains and nature. Check out his web site sometime
Great video Dave. I never saw the inside of a detector before. I see Progress rail services manufactures them. Guy that worked in the rail mill with me for awhile got a job there in the 1990s.I think that company is in Cleveland Ohio.
Thank you Michael, glad you enjoyed the show tonight. I've shown
the inside of the detector bungalow before, but this is the first
time to show what happens inside when a train is passing. Progress
Rail bought out EMD, but is now owned by Caterpillar. Always
appreciate your paying us a visit and hearing from you my friend.
@@ccrx6700 You a quite welcome Dave.
Progress Rail bought out their detector systems from GE/Harmon.
NS is a user of Southern Technologies brand EDDs typically.
@@thetrainshop Ok thanks for the info.
😉Thanks for the Video, I appreciate all of them.
One thing that bugs me about the tanker derailment is that it has been common practice to put two or three inert unhazardous train cars between every two tanker cars carrying hazardous materials in case of derailment. In the overhead cluster camera shots of those tankers it didn't appear that there were ANY buffer cars!? That obviously wasn't a very good idea was it?🤔
There were flour and other ag products interspersed.
@@FadkinsDiet I didn't see any in that cluster of tankers and disagree but am certainly not going to discuss it anymore...
Thank you very much for paying us a visit hinspect, glad you enjoyed. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the nice comment my friend.
Excellent job Dave of giving some scenarios of what might have happened. Thanks for your knowledge, much appreciated. Keep those hot box detectors warm, Lol!
Thank you Jeff for the really nice comment. If you haven't read it,
the NTSB preliminary report on what happened is on my channel
home page, click on the Community tab to find it, it is the second
post down. Always a pleasure to have you visit with us my friend.
This was a awesome video Dave, you explanation on both the derailment and the detector👍👍
Thank you Russell for the very kind words. So glad to hear you
had a good time with us tonight. We always appreciate hearing
from you my friend.
Given this, I wonder if the defect detector was giving off the hot axle alert so many times that at one point, people just assumed a train was fine when in reality (as was the case in what would have soon became East Palestine) there truly was a defect. I think this may be a big reason why the crew likely didn't know that there was a defect until it was too late, but we'll have to wait on the official NTSB report for that.
What happened at E. Palestine was a tragedy. We feel so sorry for all
involved, the residents and the RR. We will await for the official
NTSB report. They will investigate every single detail of all
the events that happened. This is a very high profile case with
all the lawsuits filed and environmental concerns. A lot of
money will be riding on their findings.
So very sad it happened. In the past a lot of RR safety rules
have been written in blood sadly. Hopefully this tragic incidence
will bring into play a new, better set of safety regulations for
the rail industry. We certainly do appreciate your watching
the video and for writing in my friend.
Dave, thank you very much for your explanation of how the bearing and wheel sensors work. I also appreciate your estimates of what happened at East Palestine and POSSIBLE causes keeping it simple for even an old sailor to understand.
The computer running your detector shares something in common with a lot of other computers ... it's sensitive to temperatures it has to operate in. Does it display similar problems on very hot summer days with no A/C? I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Thank you very much for paying us a visit Robert. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the nice comment
my friend.
Great video Dave! So much of the news reporting has been incorrect, from my limited knowledge of railroading. East Palestine is a short drive from home, but I am glad I am upwind and out of the affected area. Great demonstration on defect detectors!
Thank you for the very nice comment Matt. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.
Dave thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Your certainly welcome icounted. We always appreciate having
you visit with us and hearing from you my friend.
Dave, if you are able, keep us updated as to what occurred and what is occurring now - if you are able. Thanks Dave.
Yes sir I will. NTSB has recovered the truck set that first
derailed and it is being sent to a lab for investigation. What we
did find out today, new info. A bearing failed, axle skewed and
was pressing against the brake beam which acted like the
brakes were applied and the wheels were sliding on the rails,
so I was right in part of my speculation. Thanks so much for
watching and writing in my friend.
Great video - I learn something new each time you put out a new video. Regarding the detectors: how far apart are they usually placed? Does a track with a lot of curves usually require more detectors than an alignment that is predominantly tangent? Thanks for your response.
Thank you for the nice comment. We have 17 miles of track and
1 detector. NS typically puts theirs 20 or so miles apart, some
other RR put them closer or further, it's all up to the engineering
department of each RR where they decide to put them. Thanks so
much for watching and writing in my friend.
Good stuff Dave, I was a telecom tech for the Santa Fe, Union Pacific and BNSF Railway in Los Angeles for 25 1/2 before retiring in 2021 and one of my duties was to main the voice and data radios for our Santa Fe Springs hot box detector which was about eight miles from Hobart Yard in Los Angeles. It was an interesting site because about eight years ago they went from having double track to triple track at that location and the data radio was only capable of handling inputs from two tracks. I had to rescript the radio get it to handle three track inputs and make some configuration changes the Progress Rail Services computer and install a multiplexer box to allow the system to handle three track inputs. It was really cool to see and hear it work once all the parameters were properly tweaked.
Thank you very much for stopping by Paul. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the really awesome comment my friend.
@@ccrx6700 The detector at Santa Fe Springs California is the one I used to maintain the vhf hi band voice radio and the vhf low band data radio in and sometimes it would hiccup and give squirrels reports to passing trains.
I've liked trains ever since I first heard the story of John Henry back in the early 80's when I was very small.
Thanks for your work and the information, it helps us laymen form a better understanding of something that's always near us but rarely understood.
Thank you very much for paying us a visit Daniel. We really appreciate your watching the presentation. What's not to like
about trains!
I appreciate everything the engineers and other vital workers such as yourself go out and do such an amazing job. I know safety is always a number 1 priority. It is a shame the accident happened and I wish there was more that could of been done but we have car accidents and plane accidents out there too. Some are human error and some are just machinery related. The same people that complain about accidents happening in their hometown are probably the same individuals that run through a railroad crossing when the signals are activated. Thanks for the info and the great video!
Thank you for the very nice comment David. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend. You're one of the few comments that have come in that actually are based on good common sense.
@@ccrx6700 thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate the comment. It’s sad that there are so many individuals that use the comment section as a means to challenge the person making the video. Everything has to be “no that’s not true, no your wrong, actually that’s a called a “blah blah””. People can’t just enjoy a video. It always has to come with s negative comment or a comment that’s suppose to be positive but turns out to be slightly negative lol. Ya can’t win lol. Just remember that the people that appreciate your videos will keep watching them and the negative Nancy’s can go with mama and throw themselves off a train. Lol
@@davidimhoff2118 👍😊❤️
Another one of your mighty fine videos Dave. Keep railroadin!!!
Thank you morse for the very kind words. We always appreciate
having you join in with us and watch my friend.
Dave, you sound like a genuine person who cares about what he does and says. Therefore, I think you would want to know that the “S” in Illinois is not pronounced. It’s a French name because it was originally discovered by a French explorer.
How petty of you to correct his pronunciation!
Thank you I knew that, I've gotten busted before for saying the
s on the end, it's okay your writing in tho. Want to thank you
very much for watching the presentation my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Dave you’re a smart guy and we can’t have you mispronounce words and give people the wrong impression. Keep up the good work!
Ohio born and raised, still here, you read about this stuff but never think about it happening near you!!! Hoping for the best 🤞🤞🇺🇸
Yes we are all hoping for the best, what a tragedy and so sad
it had to happen for all concerned. Thank you very much for
taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Great video on railway safety since after the East Palestine train derailment. Please post more videos like this.
Thank you, very glad you enjoyed it flexvision. We certainly do appreciate your stopping by and watching the show today my friend.
A better heater might be one of those mineral oil-filled little radiators that have a thermostat and no fan to get clogged or burn out.
it probably would be George, but heater in detector cabinet
was broke so the space heater was only temporary until HVAC
guy can get there and fix it. Thank you very much for watching
and writing in my friend.
There are five rail crossings in Salem. The video is taken after the fifth one going westbound. There are 12 more crossings before East Palestine, and some are state highways. Hell, two are main streets in Columbiana, and no one saw this rolling fireworks display. There are many open country places where the train could be seen from highways. It was dark, with no leaves on the trees. Puzzling, to say the least. Seventeen crossings and no eyeballs on the train.
32N is an eastbound.
You are right Mike, that certainly is puzzling being it was almost
8;30 in the evening, you might understand if it was 2 am no one
seeing it, but surely it was seen by several at that time of evening.
Very much appreciate your visiting with us and taking the time
to share your info my friend.
Hi Dave, RUclips directed me to one of your videos. Watched and enjoyed. Now I am hooked and subscribed :) Thoroughly enjoy your delivery style and what you talk about. I also find the surroundings you operate in, in your videos, very peaceful. You got a follower in South London, UK.
Appreciate the nice comment Julian, glad you enjoyed and happy to have you with us. Thank You for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
Thank you for the education Dave!
Thank you very much Edward for the really kind words. We very
much appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.
I live in Boardman, Ohio. Not far from East Palestine. They say the air and water are both safe but even this far away, there have been signs of nasty rain here. And there has been a nasty smell to the air at night. We are all doomed i bet.
What sign of acid rain?
Nothing science can detect.
What happened at E. Palestine was a tragedy. We feel so sorry for all
involved, the residents and the RR. We will await for the official
NTSB report. They will investigate every single detail of all
the events that happened. This is a very high profile case with
all the lawsuits filed and environmental concerns. A lot of
money will be riding on their findings.
So very sad it happened. In the past a lot of RR safety rules
have been written in blood sadly. Hopefully this tragic incidence
will bring into play a new, better set of safety regulations for
the rail industry. We certainly do appreciate your watching
the video and for writing in my friend.
Great opinion Dave on NS derailment every piece of electronic equipment is prone to failures great video thanks Dave
Thank you Gary for the kind words. We certainly do appreciate
your paying us a visit tonight and for writing in my friend. Again,
my opinion is only what could have happened, not necessarily
what did happen at E. Palestine.
Very interesting. Thank you for the breakdown of the technical aspects of this detection device.
Thank you for the very nice comment coldwaterjimmy. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.
Our Transportation Secretary is a defect.
its a shortline coal railroad
You beat me to it!
We do thank you very much for taking the time to watch the
video tonight my friend. Not gonna touch that defect comment
but it did make me grin.... :-)
As is his boss
Better than the last 🤡 President!
Very nice Job Dave. Thank you for your work
Your very welcome. Thank you for taking the time to
watch the presentation and write in my friend.
Dave we love ya brother always love the videos and thanks for what you do keep up the great content
Thank you for the very nice comment. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.
Great video. Your information is 5x what comes out of the media. It's unfortunate that Americans suffer while the News media covers it up because they have stake in the rail roads. Keep us up to date with the news. Luckily for us rhere are experts like you breaking things down into terms we can understand! My heart goes out for the people that will suffer in Ohio and every state that has a similar derailment!
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Another great video, thanks Dave 👍👍🚂
Thank you so very much Christopher for the nice comment.
Always appreciate your visiting with us and hearing from you
my friend.
Dave, your the man. Videos are great, and very well done. You speak with such a kindness and passion that is very hard to come by these days. Would love to run into you and introduce myself in person while out catching some trains. Stay safe and warm. God Bless
Thank you for the very kind words toycannon. We really appreciate
your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Thanks Dave for the insight. I have read many of the posts by professionals in the RR industry and their collective wisdom suggests a failure in on of the wheels. Personally, I thought it might have been a track failure. I see how much time and energy you put into maintaining your track in good condition, and wondered if poor track maintenance might have been the problem. Guess I was wrong, but you provided the information I learned about RRing to make a guess about what happened. Thanks :)
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Thanks for the well presented info - the news should hire you to explain these things to them or even let you speak on their behalf, they have been gaffing this from day 1.
Williamson WV and Flowery Branch GA - Railfan here.
i swear i subscribed to you previously from some older videos you have, appears it got wiped out. not sure why
Thank you for the nice comment. They need me too much here to
consider a career change....LOL Very much appreciate your
visiting with us and checking out the show my friend.
Good video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
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watch the presentation and write in my friend.
Very nice video, thank you for all of your knowledge and good information. Very well put together. My heart goes out to everyone that has been affected by this tragedy, as well as all of animals and wildlife. Thoughts and prayers to all of those wonderful people! ❤🙏
Thank you for the very nice comment trainwild. Glad you enjoyed
the show. Totally agree with you on the tragedy, it's very sad it
happened. Very much appreciate your paying us a visit tonight
and watching my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Your most welcome!
@@trainwild 😊👍
Great content, I always learn from on this channel, thanks Dave
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my friend.
Great video Dave. Great breakdown of everything. Also planning on taking my boys on a day trip out to see the Cumberland Mine RR soon. Hoping to see those blue units rollin' . Take care 🚂🚂
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your taking the time to watch and write in my friend. Visitors
are always welcome here.
I thought hotbox, but locked brakes makes more sense. I understand it was a 150 car train, which even before remote controlled distributed power was pretty standard for an Ohio Valley train. The was with caboose, and it was up to the train crew on both ends to look and sniff for stuff like sticking brakes.
I look forward to getting a clearer picture of these events. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Andy very much for the nice comment. We certainly do
appreciate your paying us a visit and watching the presentation
my friend. Go back and read this video's pinned comment for
a new update on what happened along with my reply to it.
Thanks Dave Really enjoy learning about railroading You look like you really enjoy your job Loved the DPU also HAHA
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my friend.
Thanks for the insight, I’ll bet you’re tight - I couldn’t imagine a crew being so negligent that they ignored a fault earning.
Your welcome Dave. NSTB new info out today, was a bad bearing
that caused the axle to press against the brake beam and cause
the car wheels to slide along the rail creating the sparks. So I
was right in part of my speculation. Dispatch got a message
from several previous detectors that a bearing was getting
warmer. We don't know yet any other info. Always a pleasure
to have you visit with us and hear from you my friend.
Very professional my Friend, thanks for explaining the system.
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my friend.