This is a video on the pits you see under the tracks at deep-level tube stations. The official term is 'anti-suicide pit' but the colloquial term is 'suicide pit' or a 'dead man trench'.
This is the nitty gritty schttuff shere guys. You can almost stick your tongue out 👅 ahhh taste that London subway sandwich. Luckily I brought some snacks and a pillow..
I think you should delete that comment, before anyone tries to copy that and get themselves injured or even killed. You have no idea how dangerous this action really is!
My uncle worked as a paramedic in London before retiring and moving away. On duty once a lady had fallen into the tracks and he climbed down and covered her in the"pit" as a train passed overhead. He had his story in the newspaper of which we still have a clipping. He was from a long line of east Londoners but unfortunately moved away in his retirement as London got worse.
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@@kiranclarke869 I think they are pretty safe as it's the above rail that's live, the pits underneath are pretty big, I think it was just more to keep the woman calm and keep her down as the train passed so they could get her out safely.
Hey , thats still a mad brave thing to have done , they don't make them like that anymore. I too thought that they were electrified I was told to never walk on the actual rails as they'd electricute us and kill us. Anyway, your granddad is very brave, and he's it's a shame that all of the cockneys don't exist anymore,I think it's tantamount to genocide what they have done to the white people of London and England as a whole. As a Kenyan I wish my fellow Kenyans would stay here with me and help me make Kenya great again !
The Jubilee Line Extension has a tunnel venting system and the platform edge doors are incorporated within a glass wall which is intended to prevent the blown air from dissipating via the platforms. The prevention of accidents and suicides is an unintended, but appreciated, bonus of the design..
The PED's also reduce the draughts experienced by passengers on the platform, as well as keeping their rubbish from blowing onto the tracks. But they only work on straight platforms: they're not safe to use on a curved platform as there would be have to be gaps between the PEDs and the train doors where a passenger could get trapped, also no clear line of sight along the side of the train for the train operator to check there's no-one trapped between the PED's and the train doors when they close.
@@Hashterix Believe me that is a much appreciated but unintended design benefit. I learnt that 22 years ago whilst training to be a Jubilee line train operator.
Ive only ever visited London once but used the tube repeatedly. The JLE glass doors were so much more pleasant to be around and made the whole area feel less like a sauna heated by the exhaust of an old VW. Fewer suicides is an even better benefit but Id be pleasantly surprised if they got rolled out across the board
I was a 16 year apprentice with the Building Section of London Transport based at Tufnell Park depot when I had to go and scrape my first body out of a suicide pit at the Archway station, that day we had three suicides, it was the main reason it was not put on the news because of copy cats. The body looked like a burnt fried egg, not a pleasant job. John.
@@vasekdrtic2760 there are plain bus stops like those, but there are bus stations in cities that are indoor hubs serving dozens of routes. NYC's Port Authority Bus Terminal and some of Boston's subway stations have indoor bus boarding.
How does that work with a bus station? I don’t imagine people are falling in front of the busses and getting hurt so I don’t think it would really help with safety.
How do I prevent future suicide attempts on my own? Now that school is over I haven't thought about doing that, but I am worried that if my schedule for next year is too much, that I will try again.
@@deepspacecow2644 If you have any thoughts like these, please contact someone at your school. I am a teacher of young adult teenagers. I understand the pressures of study and have helped many students. We are not only here to teach.
I don't live there anymore so I don't know how it is these days, but in the pre-covid days when working from home was not common, the morning rush at the Highbury & Islington station (Victoria Line) was properly scary. Such a narrow platform for a such a busy station. It was so busy one morning, even tough it's a very narrow platform, I had to wait for 4 trains to come and go, and only then I could get on the fifth one. When I finally made it to the edge of the platform, it was very unnerving. Honestly, that station was an accident waiting to happen. It would only take someone to lose their balance and you would have multiple people on the tracks. Every morning I thought to myself "I wish we had the safety doors of the Jubilee Line".
These platform edge doors should exist on old stations of the Jubilee line (the ones before Westminster), the Victoria line, the Northern line (especially the new stations), and the Central line. They also need to exist on some of the NYC subway.
Victoria, Northern and Central lines does not have PED technology so if they wanna add it, they gotta do one of these 1. Change the trains on the line (they are gonna do that on central, picadilly, bakerloo and w&c) 2. Remove the ticket barriers and the PEDs can be ticket barriers (ofc they only work when theres a train) (the train doors stay open the PEDs act like ticket barriers)
Ideally they should start prioritizing the Northern Line considering that they have the highest rates in suicide- I just really don’t get why politicians are only putting these things in place for every other reason other than concern for the victim that’s suffering. What a sick world we live in.
I agree except the trains used aren’t compatible with the Platform Edge Doors and the Doors themselves are incredibly expensive to both install and maintain unfortunately. 👍
@@mudchute4dlr How does removing ticket barriers and putting them on PEDS work? It extends train dwell times as everyone needs to check their tickets. It’s best to have a common pool in the ticket hall
@@Sheffield5047 you probably know how to remove ticket barriers, and install the yellow readers on the door. The train doors stay open the whole time but the PED acts like a ticket barrier and only opens when a person touches the reader eith a valid ticket. Of course, it doesn’t work when a train is not on the platform
Also, many survive or at least don't die instantly. Certainly a lonely way to go when emergency workers are frantically trying to get you out against the odds whilst in immense pain. As well as the suffering the driver and bystander's experience.
@@Triadii I understand your point but that's awful to say. Better to reach out to someone. Whatever challenges one faces in life there is a person earnestly waiting to help.
@@Triadiii understand this is the internet where anyone can say anything, but i’d still encourage you to be more careful if you don’t want to contribute to someone else ending their lives
“Suffering” bruh they’d be filming it for tiktok, public executions were banned solely for the massive crowds getting out of control. Do you seriously think someone getting shredded by a train wouldn’t be a spectacle. Grow up honestly.
Platform edged doors were used on the Singapore MRT (Mass Rapid Transport) system from the beginning. I have a rather unfortunate interest in this because one of my uncles committed suicide on the London Underground in the 1980s.
Came from Wilbur Soot's Jubilee Line song, which references the suicides that took place there. I think it expresses how they put the barriers there, not to prevent people from committing a fatal act, but to not scare the foreigners that saw those actions in the tube line.
The reason they put those barriers is because the tourists get scared of the suicide happening there. Basically London is loosing tourists and to prevent this from happening they put barriers
Suicide this way is so brutal for the poor driver and recovery workers...And of course for the unhappy person. I knew a train driver {Overground} who had to quit his work as a particular suicide incident distressed him so much. People who have survived 'gentler' methods speak often of being so glad they were saved 💛⭐️ and had another chance at life. Years ago we saw a disabled man pulled from the docks at Bristol. Witnesses saw him head his electric wheelchair straight for the dockside and into 11 foot deep of icy water. As fate would have it, bomb squad divers were in the area as it was Remembrance Sunday. {November, cool, clear weather} a boat owner saw the incident, and the man was hauled out..But he was many many minutes under water. He looked grey blue...I whispered 'Good luck mate' as rescue crews took him away. Years later, TV programme interviewed people who had survived suicide...and Our Man was on there! He had been depressed, and couldn't;t see a way out....But afterwards, he recovered, and was much happier. So happy to see him in a happier mental state.🙏👍 The extremely cold water in the Docks saved him from brain damage from lack of oxygen, as his body went into a slowed metabolic rate.
The platform doors are something I have wondered why trains didn't have for a while. Makes the risk or falling, intentionally jumping, or even being pushed (by accident) basically nil. And it keeps everything cooler (and presumably quieter)? Just bonus after bonus.
I had always assumed it had to do with maintenance costs for a second set of electric doors. Here in Vancouver we have the SkyTrain, which has no platform edge doors anywhere, but has either pressure plates (older stations) or lasers (newer stations) to detect if someone has fallen onto the tracks so it can stop all the automated trains. I assume TransLink went with this because it was cheaper than building platform edge doors.
its actually quite hard to install PEDs on older systems and lines that weren't designed for them. That's why the JLE was such a big achievement not only because it extended the Jubilee line but also because it upgraded it. PEDs require some level of automated trains so that the trains line up with the doors on the platform. Most rolling stock on the Tube isn't automated at all and is actually quite old, but as u can imagine replacing an entire fleet of trains isn't an easy and certainly not a cheap thing to do. In addition, most stations of the network would need to be closed to install the doors, which would be a very tricky and costly affair, especially in stations that are cramped and don't have a lot of space for work. There are also a lot of stations in the non-core sections of the network that would need significant work, and quite a lot of them run other services which would suffer from these works. So yeah, PEDs are great and every new station should have them however, to put them on every single station on the Tube will take a long time and most certainly a lot of money, which might be better spent on other projects or improvements.
Yh but in London the tracks are electrified that's what causes the death coz when someone is on the track all trains are alerted but the problem is the elctricity
True story. First time in London & I was having a look at the rails from a safe distance & trying to figure out how the centre rail worked. Turned around & was getting some strange looks from the commuters.😂😂
@Free YT Films They’re not being selfish they’re depressed. They shouldn’t end their lives at all so I think it’s a bit discourteous of you to tell them to die somewhere else.
such things could be quite useful in the US as well, both for elevated and subterranean stations. Sadly, in NY, LA, and other cities with Subways, there's been a rise of 'pushings', that sadly result in people being killed by an oncoming train. As well as a number of pranksters throwing objects onto the rails. Such doors would ultimately prevent these incidents.
The platform edge doors should be rolled out across all stations possible regardless of line but i do get that they are expensive and TFL are struggling with funds at the moment
More recently constructed underground lines in Asia (Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Shanghai) have platform edge doors as standard. I expect this is how all new underground trains, and most modernised lines, will be in future. Updating lines like the New York subway will be expensive, though.
I’m glad these doors exist, because I’m always scared of falling in and stuff. I mean I always wondered why they didn’t appear mor often, and I only heard they were in china or something. By the way, those doors make em look like horizontal elevators…
Don't the safety doors require the conductor to have to stop the train exactly where the doors are? I feel like there is a chance you might not have a lot of space for error
@@sonjamikaela1277on all deep level lines except the piccadilly and bakerloo there is a driver. But the lines are automated so hes really there to open, close doors and start the ATO.
It would be good to have a traction current isolator for when there is no train active in the station. To prevent electric shock, because there is no way out when you are stuck to 750v DC.
Did you witness a one under by any chance…? I live in Switzerland and have witnessed to and I’m only 14 yrs old the first was a lost tourist and accidental and the second was about 2 months ago and was a suicide and other than the driver I was the only witness… sadly as of next year I’ll be forced to take the train to school. And it worries me every time the train comes into the platform…
@@Turbulencemode that is a lot for one person to witness in a short time. Most people go their whole life not having to worry about this particular type of memory. May I suggest you do some kind of therapy to give you a space to process these things? Doesn't have to be expensive talk therapy, painting and writing about things or talking to someone trustworthy like a family member can work just as well or better
@@vacafuega I have used many methods and it’s definitely helped but I am and will probably always be anxious at the moment the train comes into the platform but other than then I don’t worry too much anymore but it’s been hard
Look at how much fancier it looks with them too! It actually looks like a transport terminal now! This should just be standard. (Yes, even though it presumably would cost a lot and might not be viable in some areas.)
@@Mqtisse can't go into Buckingham palace for the overwhelming majority of the time, would make zero difference to tourism. You'd be able to look at it from the outside, which is already what happens
The new Elizabeth Line (Crossrail) has Platform Edge Doors. It seems clear that any significant new tube construction in London is likely to have them.
I installed these on the oxford circus / Tottenham court road ones.. very smart. but very dystopian..at least 4-5 people a week try to jump on the tracks so it's good...but it's not a solution to the underlying problem
If you landed sideways you would slide off, the chances of someone landing on the 4th rail with exactly 50% of them on one side and 50% on the other is incredibly unlikely so you would just roll off the rail into the pit. And no, the 4th rail is not the live rail, the 3rd rail is the one that carries the spikey-hair juice.
I moved to London from Aotearoa/ New Zealand in the early 80s and was horrified at the 'brutality' of the delay signs that would be posted at the stations farther along the route. Eg. Train delayed. Body on tracks. Or, Train delayed due to body under train. I just thought it was a sad way to die and it wasn't til years later l thought about how traumatic it would have been for the train driver and those who had to deal with the aftermath and that the signs were perhaps an attempt to deter others.
I've struggled with those thoughts since childhood cancer. I suffer from ptsd, social anxiety and a whole lotta other issues as a result. As much as I'd like to cave into those thoughts, I'd never do it publicly and traumatize another.
São Paulo has these doors in most of the new stations and on the red line they are installing those as well. As a person who experienced suicidal thoughts from time to time, these doors are a blessing to me.
Interesting. In Kyiv and many other metros in post-Soviet cities have these pits in the stations to allow any person that accidentally falls there to lie flat and have the train pass over them, without injuring them, if there isn't enough time to get back onto the platform. The third rail, which provides power to the train, is to the side and usually under the platform, so that any falling person wouldn't accidentally touch it when falling, which would be lethal. The fallen person would make his way to the front end of the tunnel where the first wagon would stop, where the third rail switches sides, and use a staircase or ladder to get back up onto the platform.
Platform edge doors look so much safer than the alternative. Wish that was the norm, but I bet it’s a cost many subway-including cities don’t want to shell out for, despite the safety it would foster.
The last time I was on the Tube coming in from Heathrow (off an evening Aer Lingus flight from Dublin, as I’d just missed the last flights to Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds and Liverpool) into central London (Piccadilly Circus) was on 25th June 2002 (I still have the original tickets) and what I noticed was the sheer walls of heat and this awful smell of burning from the electrics like at a funfair dogem cars - I’d no idea where I was going except that I was trying to reach Balan’s Coffee Shop in Soho (from an outdated copy of Spartacus gay guide) before finding Euston for the train to Manchester Piccadilly the following morning, which at peak time on Virgin Trains cost me £97.00 single - travelling alone (never a good idea in London for the first time), I recall feeling terrified, even though I’d lived in Dublin for 3 years previously, being originally from a small village in Rural Ireland and I’d found some people in London incredibly rude at the time - I’ve lived in Manchester 21 years now and I’ve never looked back, going back to Ireland on the train and ferry from Holyhead frequently, but I’d only ever go to London (by train, coach or flight) from Manchester with a friend, never alone
Im so sorry you had such a bad experience. Ive lived in London all my life and have never felt in danger at any time of the day or night. Londoners, like all big city dwellers eg. Parisians or New Yorkers can appear a little off hand but get to know them even only for a moment and you will see they are the same as folk anywhere and often generous, kind and humourous. If anything the countryside scares me half to death. I find all that eerie silence and everyone into everyones business plain creepy😳
For me, it's not so much a sense of being in danger, more just being totally overwhelmed. I grew up in a village, then a rural town. I now live in a city, but London just freaks me out. The noise, the busy-ness, the hordes of people, not being able to see past the buildings... It makes me feel suffocated. I can cope if I've someone to talk to who knows their way around, but otherwise, nope. Not a good place for my mental health.
Here in the US we need the station platform walls with auto opening doors. Not to prevent accidental or suicidal falls, but to prevent others from pushing you onto the tracks in front of an oncoming train.
@@digestiveissue7710 Unfortunately, more common than it should be. New York City had over 22 people die in 2022 from being literally pushed in front of oncoming subway trains.
I have always been amazed that they dont have a 100 deaths a day, all over the world, from that open edge design. I dont care if it was built 100 years ago and the station only had one passenger a day, it is an awful design. Nothing against the UK, here in the US we have the same design.
01:53 these are extremly common on Beijing, China. I travelled there by tube a lot and they where at every station, altough they did not alway reach the cieling.
I would think the Waterloo & City line dosen't because it was built to Mainline Rail standards (up until 1994 it was British Rail owned) but I have no idea why Aldwych dosen't, perhaps because it is a termini station so no risk of trains passing through fast? I'm not sure.
@@southwest455 I believe after the Moorgate Crash most terminating tube stations imposed a 12.5 mph limit so it would be easier to stop at that speed providing you see the person. It may just be Moorgate but I am pretty sure elephant and castle has a similar procedure.
Yeah I feel a bit sorry for New Yorkers having to put up with their Metro system. A lot of Londoners just don't realise how excellent the Tube is, because they've never been to any one of the much worse ones that exist out there.
London is the scariest city I have been in, although I haven't been in many cities recently, London always scares me, the tube being the place where the most suicides happen makes it even worse, the tube also sounds terrifying to ride on. oh and I feel like I will get stabbed at any moment.
while the platform edge doors are undoubtedly more safe than any other method, there is something so romantic about the train whizzing into or past the station.
You would still be fucked if you feel onto the tracks of the metro you just showed, due to the high voltage rail in the middle of the tracks. These must be some older ones, as they are fully exposed and would electrocute you if you came in contact with them.
Those doors are a nice idea. I doubt we’ll get them in America, though. I don’t see anybody wanting to put tax dollars into that, or any other kind of money
Thanks for making this video, this was rather interesting to learn about these pits and we need more platform edge doors on other lines! I think it would the Victoria a lot
I think That TFL need to add platform edge doors on every underground station like the ones on the jubilee line extension and the New Elizabeth line to stop people from being pushed or jumping in front of trains.
Here in kolkata we have this platform doors in every metro stations when they were making the underwater metro routes. Because of the suicides we were not allowed to be on the platflom if we skip a train to catch the next one. We had to wait outside of the platform. One time I skipped one train to wait for my friends and the guards over there just straight away told me to *uck off. So glad we have these doors now. No more suicides on metro.
I was looking for the "pits" all through the video when I realized the track itself is supposed to be the "pit" as it's much lower than the platform. Weird, it's like that everywhere in Hungary so I had no idea what the big deal was.
The track is not the pit, the track is several feet above the pit held up on stilts. If the track _was_ the pit then it would just be like every other subway station in the world. You can clearly see at 0:22 that the middle rail is raised up on stilts.
@@krashd well yea, that's what I meant. It's the lowered base of the track area between the two rails, to be more precise. But at first I was looking for actual pitholes, like a grave.
Due to the amount of sucides on railways in the UK. I think the platform edge doors are the BEST idea to help in prevention of these poor people with SEVERE DEPRESSION!!! wanting to end their lives by rail. These safety doors will NOT open until the train has entered the station & come to a complete stop FIRST!!!!! Unless opened by rail staff for maintenance or emergency work. Public cannot gain access to the track 😉👍 Hopefully better security can be improved for other open parts of the rail networks ( bridges & damaged / open (vandalised fences) Although i know they try to keep up on this these unfortunate suicides still continue on the railways from time to time. 😟😮😯
You missed a point that the stations you showed with the sliding doors are in the bankers part of town….why …because this is where a lot of s*icides were happening in the 90s linked to people losing money at the stock exchange- these stations haven’t become the standard though the Victoria line was regenerated and these doors weren’t put in and even we’ve got a new Elizabeth line and it isn’t like this all the way though
Anyone who really wants to commit suicide by train would probably time it so they're hit as the train is running through. These pits won't save many suicides. The doors however would 100% work.
Just like elevators, and an excellent safety feature that must have put up another couple of hundred jobs. But reading some of the comments has me aghast and saddened, and I never want to think of people as statisticals. Courage park?
The pit being shallow is much better. In the NYC subway the pit is so deep that you actually need a significant degree of athleticism to get out if you fall in. The real self-harm of the London subway, though, is sitting on those disgusting cushion seats.
Exreme trainspotting: Jump in the pit and spot the train from underneath so you can look at the bits that lesser trainspotters don't get to see
This is the nitty gritty schttuff shere guys. You can almost stick your tongue out 👅 ahhh taste that London subway sandwich. Luckily I brought some snacks and a pillow..
@@HumorDash Mate, you'd find those lying in the pits during/after rush hour. No need to waste money and bring your own
Just be careful of that third rail.
I think you should delete that comment, before anyone tries to copy that and get themselves injured or even killed. You have no idea how dangerous this action really is!
@@CZghost nobody cares you should try it
My uncle worked as a paramedic in London before retiring and moving away. On duty once a lady had fallen into the tracks and he climbed down and covered her in the"pit" as a train passed overhead. He had his story in the newspaper of which we still have a clipping. He was from a long line of east Londoners but unfortunately moved away in his retirement as London got worse.
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Wow, aren't there electrical cables/rails that carry high voltage down there as well? The world needs more brave people like him.
@@kiranclarke869 I think they are pretty safe as it's the above rail that's live, the pits underneath are pretty big, I think it was just more to keep the woman calm and keep her down as the train passed so they could get her out safely.
@@wendyHew Ah ok that makes sense. Still a very respectable and brave move nevertheless!
Hey , thats still a mad brave thing to have done , they don't make them like that anymore. I too thought that they were electrified I was told to never walk on the actual rails as they'd electricute us and kill us.
Anyway, your granddad is very brave, and he's it's a shame that all of the cockneys don't exist anymore,I think it's tantamount to genocide what they have done to the white people of London and England as a whole. As a Kenyan I wish my fellow Kenyans would stay here with me and help me make Kenya great again !
The Jubilee Line Extension has a tunnel venting system and the platform edge doors are incorporated within a glass wall which is intended to prevent the blown air from dissipating via the platforms. The prevention of accidents and suicides is an unintended, but appreciated, bonus of the design..
The PED's also reduce the draughts experienced by passengers on the platform, as well as keeping their rubbish from blowing onto the tracks. But they only work on straight platforms: they're not safe to use on a curved platform as there would be have to be gaps between the PEDs and the train doors where a passenger could get trapped, also no clear line of sight along the side of the train for the train operator to check there's no-one trapped between the PED's and the train doors when they close.
I'm sure passengers not falling onto the track is actually very much an intended part of the design.
@@Hashterix Believe me that is a much appreciated but unintended design benefit. I learnt that 22 years ago whilst training to be a Jubilee line train operator.
@@NHGMitchell I've seen lots of metro stations with platform screen doors on curved platforms.
@@planefan082 Can you give some examples? I'd be interested to know how safe they are.
I really like those platform doors they’re an amazing idea
Yes they are really nice!
Yh
They need to make it
Genius, these need to be everywhere.
Same
Ive only ever visited London once but used the tube repeatedly. The JLE glass doors were so much more pleasant to be around and made the whole area feel less like a sauna heated by the exhaust of an old VW. Fewer suicides is an even better benefit but Id be pleasantly surprised if they got rolled out across the board
Copenhagen metro has much nicer stations and has these on every s[ration even the above ground ones I was really impressed (I'm English)
FireMage. That was so descriptive! Made me feel exonerated over my hatred of the Underground!
I was a 16 year apprentice with the Building Section of London Transport based at Tufnell Park depot when I had to go and scrape my first body out of a suicide pit at the Archway station, that day we had three suicides, it was the main reason it was not put on the news because of copy cats. The body looked like a burnt fried egg, not a pleasant job. John.
Working in a restaurant in Canary Wharf for 2 years I lost count of the number of suicides at CW station. None ever made it to the news
@@gmarie3053 On the Jubilee Line?
So sad 😞
The one in bush industrial estate?
Cheers John lol
Many of the newer bus stations have those type of doors too.
An interesting and effective feature in modern public transport safety.
How is that look, becasue bus stations are outdoor
@@vasekdrtic2760 there are plain bus stops like those, but there are bus stations in cities that are indoor hubs serving dozens of routes. NYC's Port Authority Bus Terminal and some of Boston's subway stations have indoor bus boarding.
How does that work with a bus station? I don’t imagine people are falling in front of the busses and getting hurt so I don’t think it would really help with safety.
"There's a reason, That London puts Barriers on the tube line" Wilbur Soots song Jubilee line (iykyk) Edit: ayo this comment has many likes!??!
I literally came here for that, I'm in love with Wilbur's songs, they're amazingly sad and real...
@@SalineT39 yea :(
Sorry,but what exactly is a Tubeline?
@@chocobun4879 this video had a tubeline
That's why I came here
I work in crisis mental health intervention and used to live in the UK, so I find this absolutely fascinating. Thank you for sharing, mate.
How do I prevent future suicide attempts on my own? Now that school is over I haven't thought about doing that, but I am worried that if my schedule for next year is too much, that I will try again.
@@deepspacecow2644
step one: buy a locke
step 2 : loked your door shut
@@deepspacecow2644 please seek therapy and go back to school when you're ready.
@@deepspacecow2644start doing drugs and alcohol, usually helps the wacked out people i see on the streets, who also have useless degrees
@@deepspacecow2644 If you have any thoughts like these, please contact someone at your school. I am a teacher of young adult teenagers. I understand the pressures of study and have helped many students. We are not only here to teach.
I don't live there anymore so I don't know how it is these days, but in the pre-covid days when working from home was not common, the morning rush at the Highbury & Islington station (Victoria Line) was properly scary. Such a narrow platform for a such a busy station. It was so busy one morning, even tough it's a very narrow platform, I had to wait for 4 trains to come and go, and only then I could get on the fifth one. When I finally made it to the edge of the platform, it was very unnerving. Honestly, that station was an accident waiting to happen. It would only take someone to lose their balance and you would have multiple people on the tracks. Every morning I thought to myself "I wish we had the safety doors of the Jubilee Line".
These platform edge doors should exist on old stations of the Jubilee line (the ones before Westminster), the Victoria line, the Northern line (especially the new stations), and the Central line. They also need to exist on some of the NYC subway.
Victoria, Northern and Central lines does not have PED technology so if they wanna add it, they gotta do one of these
1. Change the trains on the line (they are gonna do that on central, picadilly, bakerloo and w&c)
2. Remove the ticket barriers and the PEDs can be ticket barriers (ofc they only work when theres a train) (the train doors stay open the PEDs act like ticket barriers)
Ideally they should start prioritizing the Northern Line considering that they have the highest rates in suicide- I just really don’t get why politicians are only putting these things in place for every other reason other than concern for the victim that’s suffering. What a sick world we live in.
I agree except the trains used aren’t compatible with the Platform Edge Doors and the Doors themselves are incredibly expensive to both install and maintain unfortunately. 👍
@@mudchute4dlr How does removing ticket barriers and putting them on PEDS work? It extends train dwell times as everyone needs to check their tickets. It’s best to have a common pool in the ticket hall
@@Sheffield5047 you probably know how to remove ticket barriers, and install the yellow readers on the door. The train doors stay open the whole time but the PED acts like a ticket barrier and only opens when a person touches the reader eith a valid ticket. Of course, it doesn’t work when a train is not on the platform
Also, many survive or at least don't die instantly. Certainly a lonely way to go when emergency workers are frantically trying to get you out against the odds whilst in immense pain. As well as the suffering the driver and bystander's experience.
Probably better to just hang at home. Cancel public drama.
@@Triadii I understand your point but that's awful to say.
Better to reach out to someone. Whatever challenges one faces in life there is a person earnestly waiting to help.
@@Triadiii understand this is the internet where anyone can say anything, but i’d still encourage you to be more careful if you don’t want to contribute to someone else ending their lives
@@Triadii
Shut up
“Suffering” bruh they’d be filming it for tiktok, public executions were banned solely for the massive crowds getting out of control. Do you seriously think someone getting shredded by a train wouldn’t be a spectacle. Grow up honestly.
1:58 hopefully they get put on every platform
They will, it was planned a few years ago with the new tube stocks rolling out on Piccadilly and others.
@@thatguyshawzy I’m chillin in ginza
@@thatguyshawzy they cant at some stations due to curved platforms
@@MaxsTransport they can it will just get adjusted ssomehow
@@Brtt4849 Lol
Platform edged doors were used on the Singapore MRT (Mass Rapid Transport) system from the beginning. I have a rather unfortunate interest in this because one of my uncles committed suicide on the London Underground in the 1980s.
I'm so sorry! I think my grandfather committed suicide, but I'll never know for sure, because it looked like an accident.
Not really from the beginning although it was implemented relatively early on in the process
Came from Wilbur Soot's Jubilee Line song, which references the suicides that took place there. I think it expresses how they put the barriers there, not to prevent people from committing a fatal act, but to not scare the foreigners that saw those actions in the tube line.
The reason they put those barriers is because the tourists get scared of the suicide happening there. Basically London is loosing tourists and to prevent this from happening they put barriers
@@cagla.3780 yep
@William Ng tbh, I think it's both, considering the playlist.
@@SalineT39 yeah but there just a deppresing reminder of what happend
I'd jump in
Suicide this way is so brutal for the poor driver and recovery workers...And of course for the unhappy person.
I knew a train driver {Overground} who had to quit his work as a particular suicide incident distressed him so much.
People who have survived 'gentler' methods speak often of being so glad they were saved 💛⭐️ and had another chance at life.
Years ago we saw a disabled man pulled from the docks at Bristol. Witnesses saw him head his electric wheelchair straight for the dockside and into 11 foot deep of icy water.
As fate would have it, bomb squad divers were in the area as it was Remembrance Sunday. {November, cool, clear weather}
a boat owner saw the incident, and the man was hauled out..But he was many many minutes under water.
He looked grey blue...I whispered 'Good luck mate' as rescue crews took him away.
Years later, TV programme interviewed people who had survived suicide...and Our Man was on there! He had been depressed, and couldn't;t see a way out....But afterwards, he recovered, and was much happier.
So happy to see him in a happier mental state.🙏👍
The extremely cold water in the Docks saved him from brain damage from lack of oxygen, as his body went into a slowed metabolic rate.
I think I saw this on 999 what's your emergency and he actually died in hospital
That's a scary way to die.
I know a few suicide attempt survivors. There isn't a single one who regretted not succeeding. Alas for most, it's a mistake you can only make once.
The platform doors are something I have wondered why trains didn't have for a while. Makes the risk or falling, intentionally jumping, or even being pushed (by accident) basically nil. And it keeps everything cooler (and presumably quieter)? Just bonus after bonus.
I had always assumed it had to do with maintenance costs for a second set of electric doors.
Here in Vancouver we have the SkyTrain, which has no platform edge doors anywhere, but has either pressure plates (older stations) or lasers (newer stations) to detect if someone has fallen onto the tracks so it can stop all the automated trains.
I assume TransLink went with this because it was cheaper than building platform edge doors.
Same reason as everything in this world:$$$$. Gotta pay for all that to be installed and maintained 😊
its actually quite hard to install PEDs on older systems and lines that weren't designed for them. That's why the JLE was such a big achievement not only because it extended the Jubilee line but also because it upgraded it. PEDs require some level of automated trains so that the trains line up with the doors on the platform. Most rolling stock on the Tube isn't automated at all and is actually quite old, but as u can imagine replacing an entire fleet of trains isn't an easy and certainly not a cheap thing to do. In addition, most stations of the network would need to be closed to install the doors, which would be a very tricky and costly affair, especially in stations that are cramped and don't have a lot of space for work. There are also a lot of stations in the non-core sections of the network that would need significant work, and quite a lot of them run other services which would suffer from these works. So yeah, PEDs are great and every new station should have them however, to put them on every single station on the Tube will take a long time and most certainly a lot of money, which might be better spent on other projects or improvements.
Yh but in London the tracks are electrified that's what causes the death coz when someone is on the track all trains are alerted but the problem is the elctricity
This is needed in NYC so people stop getting pushed onto the tracks by psychos !
True story. First time in London & I was having a look at the rails from a safe distance & trying to figure out how the centre rail worked. Turned around & was getting some strange looks from the commuters.😂😂
ah the good ol days where I only thought that trains were a way to get around and not to off myself
Wow what a horrible name
It’s sad how most people use it to end there own life :(
LondonTubeTV yep it is
They are Anti-suicide pits...not Suicide pits.
@Free YT Films what🧍♀️
@@andrewmoore4608 you are stuck right under a live rail, making it hard to get out without being electrocuted, and harder to be rescued
@Free YT Films They’re not being selfish they’re depressed. They shouldn’t end their lives at all so I think it’s a bit discourteous of you to tell them to die somewhere else.
There’s a reason that London puts barriers on the tube line and there’s a reason they fail
They are there for air circulation and to stop things blowing onto to the track
@@leoncolxits a song lyric
@@washboostupid song
such things could be quite useful in the US as well, both for elevated and subterranean stations. Sadly, in NY, LA, and other cities with Subways, there's been a rise of 'pushings', that sadly result in people being killed by an oncoming train. As well as a number of pranksters throwing objects onto the rails. Such doors would ultimately prevent these incidents.
I believe they're adding the doors to grand central, and will continue to build them throughout the NY subway
I’m already crying just thinking of wilburs song
which one
@@tdbninjagaming jubilee line
That's what got me here
🤦
same
The platform edge doors should be rolled out across all stations possible regardless of line but i do get that they are expensive and TFL are struggling with funds at the moment
It has been planned for a while that they will be installed when new trains are introduced
More recently constructed underground lines in Asia (Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Shanghai) have platform edge doors as standard. I expect this is how all new underground trains, and most modernised lines, will be in future. Updating lines like the New York subway will be expensive, though.
idk seems abit overkill
@@Schimml0rd better over then under?
@@Schimml0rd Overkill is what a train does if it hits you. The doors seem like a much safer alternative.
I’m glad these doors exist, because I’m always scared of falling in and stuff. I mean I always wondered why they didn’t appear mor often, and I only heard they were in china or something.
By the way, those doors make em look like horizontal elevators…
so are we here from wilbur or-
Yes sadly as an American I had no idea
Yep
OH MY GOD SHUT THE FUCK UP NOONE CARES ABOUT WILBUR SOOT YOU AREN'T FUNNY YOURE A CHILD
@@mississippieugene1889 you had no idea people killed themselves via train? You thought Britain was some magical land free of despair?
oh?
Don't the safety doors require the conductor to have to stop the train exactly where the doors are? I feel like there is a chance you might not have a lot of space for error
theres no conductor/driver, the trains are automated in these kinds of tracks
@@sonjamikaela1277on all deep level lines except the piccadilly and bakerloo there is a driver. But the lines are automated so hes really there to open, close doors and start the ATO.
I LOVE platform edge doors, they create so much more space on the platform.
It would be good to have a traction current isolator for when there is no train active in the station. To prevent electric shock, because there is no way out when you are stuck to 750v DC.
That is a really good idea 🙂👍
All the tracks are connected so it would be very conplex
@@hjlegends4999 The traction current isn't. They divide up every few hundred yards. Hence multiple pick up shoes on the trains.
aaaaaah memories
last year I would be using the tube for moving anywhere I could. Those were good days
Indeed they were.
Did you witness a one under by any chance…?
I live in Switzerland and have witnessed to and I’m only 14 yrs old the first was a lost tourist and accidental and the second was about 2 months ago and was a suicide and other than the driver I was the only witness… sadly as of next year I’ll be forced to take the train to school. And it worries me every time the train comes into the platform…
@@Turbulencemode that is a lot for one person to witness in a short time. Most people go their whole life not having to worry about this particular type of memory. May I suggest you do some kind of therapy to give you a space to process these things? Doesn't have to be expensive talk therapy, painting and writing about things or talking to someone trustworthy like a family member can work just as well or better
@@vacafuega I have used many methods and it’s definitely helped but I am and will probably always be anxious at the moment the train comes into the platform but other than then I don’t worry too much anymore but it’s been hard
Look at how much fancier it looks with them too! It actually looks like a transport terminal now!
This should just be standard. (Yes, even though it presumably would cost a lot and might not be viable in some areas.)
They could sell Buckingham palace to sort that out !!
@@intuitiveeevee then there would be way less to tourist to fund your metro! yay!
@@Mqtisse can't go into Buckingham palace for the overwhelming majority of the time, would make zero difference to tourism. You'd be able to look at it from the outside, which is already what happens
@@MrOlympuse410id rather eat poop than suffer London. It's not even a British city anymore. It's a multicultural cesspool
The new Elizabeth Line (Crossrail) has Platform Edge Doors. It seems clear that any significant new tube construction in London is likely to have them.
I installed these on the oxford circus / Tottenham court road ones..
very smart. but very dystopian..at least 4-5 people a week try to jump on the tracks so it's good...but it's not a solution to the underlying problem
In Japan, Blue lights seem to aid in preventing such deaths. They calm people somehow
arent blue lights the ones that harm your eyes tho
what if you land there sideways? you'd get sliced like a bread tho
Theres sensors it won't close if someone is in the way.
@@ShahrukhShahryar Train tracks dummy
@@elizabetharellano7976 ????????
@@ShahrukhShahryar they mean that the person would fall sideways onto the tracks, not between the doors.
If you landed sideways you would slide off, the chances of someone landing on the 4th rail with exactly 50% of them on one side and 50% on the other is incredibly unlikely so you would just roll off the rail into the pit. And no, the 4th rail is not the live rail, the 3rd rail is the one that carries the spikey-hair juice.
I moved to London from Aotearoa/ New Zealand in the early 80s and was horrified at the 'brutality' of the delay signs that would be posted at the stations farther along the route. Eg. Train delayed. Body on tracks. Or, Train delayed due to body under train. I just thought it was a sad way to die and it wasn't til years later l thought about how traumatic it would have been for the train driver and those who had to deal with the aftermath and that the signs were perhaps an attempt to deter others.
People weren't pussies back then. You could name things as they were. Now everything has to be LGBT and vegan friendly.
@@Covid-me1xfWhat does that have to do with people jumping onto train tracks
I've struggled with those thoughts since childhood cancer. I suffer from ptsd, social anxiety and a whole lotta other issues as a result. As much as I'd like to cave into those thoughts, I'd never do it publicly and traumatize another.
The glass wall/doors is a great idea. I was wondering if they could do something similar with railing or fencing.
In japan, on the shinkansen they have fencing/railings at the edge of the platforms
São Paulo has these doors in most of the new stations and on the red line they are installing those as well. As a person who experienced suicidal thoughts from time to time, these doors are a blessing to me.
Heaven and hell are real. Give your life to Jesus. He loves you.
@@mareksumguy1887 get out
theres a reason..that London puts barriers on the tubeline :(
Theres a reson...that london puts barriers on the rails
oh nah whyd incomment this corny ass shit on a video abt suicide😭😭
Platform edge doors have always been in every single MTR station (excluding trams). It makes me question why they don't use them here in Canada.
They just look so futuristic especially in a city like london.
One of those Jubilee Line stations was actually used as the location for a starship in _Rogue One._
Interesting. In Kyiv and many other metros in post-Soviet cities have these pits in the stations to allow any person that accidentally falls there to lie flat and have the train pass over them, without injuring them, if there isn't enough time to get back onto the platform. The third rail, which provides power to the train, is to the side and usually under the platform, so that any falling person wouldn't accidentally touch it when falling, which would be lethal. The fallen person would make his way to the front end of the tunnel where the first wagon would stop, where the third rail switches sides, and use a staircase or ladder to get back up onto the platform.
Platform edge doors look so much safer than the alternative. Wish that was the norm, but I bet it’s a cost many subway-including cities don’t want to shell out for, despite the safety it would foster.
"There's a reason london puts barriers on the tube lines...
There's a reason they failed."
(Not relevant entirely, just thought I'd mention)
The last time I was on the Tube coming in from Heathrow (off an evening Aer Lingus flight from Dublin, as I’d just missed the last flights to Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds and Liverpool) into central London (Piccadilly Circus) was on 25th June 2002 (I still have the original tickets) and what I noticed was the sheer walls of heat and this awful smell of burning from the electrics like at a funfair dogem cars - I’d no idea where I was going except that I was trying to reach Balan’s Coffee Shop in Soho (from an outdated copy of Spartacus gay guide) before finding Euston for the train to Manchester Piccadilly the following morning, which at peak time on Virgin Trains cost me £97.00 single - travelling alone (never a good idea in London for the first time), I recall feeling terrified, even though I’d lived in Dublin for 3 years previously, being originally from a small village in Rural Ireland and I’d found some people in London incredibly rude at the time - I’ve lived in Manchester 21 years now and I’ve never looked back, going back to Ireland on the train and ferry from Holyhead frequently, but I’d only ever go to London (by train, coach or flight) from Manchester with a friend, never alone
Thought your story was building up to seeing a dead body on the tracks lol
Im so sorry you had such a bad experience. Ive lived in London all my life and have never felt in danger at any time of the day or night. Londoners, like all big city dwellers eg. Parisians or New Yorkers can appear a little off hand but get to know them even only for a moment and you will see they are the same as folk anywhere and often generous, kind and humourous. If anything the countryside scares me half to death. I find all that eerie silence and everyone into everyones business plain creepy😳
For me, it's not so much a sense of being in danger, more just being totally overwhelmed. I grew up in a village, then a rural town. I now live in a city, but London just freaks me out. The noise, the busy-ness, the hordes of people, not being able to see past the buildings... It makes me feel suffocated. I can cope if I've someone to talk to who knows their way around, but otherwise, nope. Not a good place for my mental health.
@@peterclarke7240 dont suppose youve ever been to new york then - its London on acid and i love it!!
@@Peter-gv6vf I've been there once.... Not for me! I was much happier when I lived in Vermont!
Here in the US we need the station platform walls with auto opening doors. Not to prevent accidental or suicidal falls, but to prevent others from pushing you onto the tracks in front of an oncoming train.
Is that a common occurrence in USA?
@@digestiveissue7710 Unfortunately, more common than it should be. New York City had over 22 people die in 2022 from being literally pushed in front of oncoming subway trains.
The pit should include a 'bottomless' feature to donate our brilliant undesirables to China innit 🙂
The train motor in the jubilee line sounds like Singapore's North-east line
And in America we have none of these features because we are extremely stupid and do not care if one peasant pushes another peasant onto the tracks.
I live in nyc and know a couple of kids that lay there for a cheap adrenaline rush. Pretty wild
Everybody else is here from this Wilbur guy, or whatever, I’m just here because this got randomly recommended to me.
Imagine living in a society where we have to design things to stop people killing themselves
You could also just make a glass wall with doors that open in front of the metro doors like the Copenhagen metro....
I have always been amazed that they dont have a 100 deaths a day, all over the world, from that open edge design. I dont care if it was built 100 years ago and the station only had one passenger a day, it is an awful design.
Nothing against the UK, here in the US we have the same design.
2:18 You missed a trick here. Your "and..." should have been followed by "Mind The Gap" 😃
Man, that sucks, now I gotta be scouting stations and shit to see the ones for an easier success rate
01:53 these are extremly common on Beijing, China. I travelled there by tube a lot and they where at every station, altough they did not alway reach the cieling.
Wait so why did stations like Aldwych and Waterloo and City Line stations not have pits?
I would think the Waterloo & City line dosen't because it was built to Mainline Rail standards (up until 1994 it was British Rail owned) but I have no idea why Aldwych dosen't, perhaps because it is a termini station so no risk of trains passing through fast? I'm not sure.
@@southwest455 I believe after the Moorgate Crash most terminating tube stations imposed a 12.5 mph limit so it would be easier to stop at that speed providing you see the person. It may just be Moorgate but I am pretty sure elephant and castle has a similar procedure.
I thought aldwych was derelict and used for horror films like "creep"
What About The 2 Power Rails?
Do I report because these where people died?
its clean compared to nyc
Yeah I feel a bit sorry for New Yorkers having to put up with their Metro system. A lot of Londoners just don't realise how excellent the Tube is, because they've never been to any one of the much worse ones that exist out there.
2:09 I love that sound so much.
That sound is unique to the JLE.
Remember ladies and gentlemen........ always wear a crash helmet in the underground and take a teddy bear.....kiss kiss
Haha yes my country has these doors on the trains i love it it so much safer
I kove the 2009 and 1992 stock for some reason
Tina nicey Harris I agree I have no idea why as well
Big trains fast speed or overall comfort?
OMG THERE MINES TOO but I know my reasons
1 there tiny
2 there fast
3 there use to be the 2 most use lines that I have been to
i guess because of their shape and size (92 stock is my local train) but I still prefer the '96 stock because of
Their motor sounds
London is the scariest city I have been in, although I haven't been in many cities recently, London always scares me, the tube being the place where the most suicides happen makes it even worse, the tube also sounds terrifying to ride on. oh and I feel like I will get stabbed at any moment.
take a deep breath you are okay
London is not a dangerous city. Have a day off
Relax lmao
I travel there all the time, never had one problem
"Oi you've shagged me sir, that's quite unfriendly"
I’m not sure why we are making life harder for people that are already finding life difficult enough..
Because you must stay alive and work goyim
Because it effects the train drivers, passengers, etc.
Suicide pits on the tube means cramming up next to someone's BO armpits on the Central line.
😂
In the Shanghai metro, there are the doors on most (if not all) stations, even in surface stations.
while the platform edge doors are undoubtedly more safe than any other method, there is something so romantic about the train whizzing into or past the station.
Yeah, and also, the sound these trains produce is lovely. Especially both Victoria line and Jubilee line ones which are my favorites.
@@zentryiithose few seconds before the train stops is iconic
1:20 my fav train sound
And theres a reason why they dont work...
I’ve never seen a subway stop this clean in the United States.
When I was in China they had those doors on almost every station I went to.
Yeah, their infrastructure is ahead of the west in most places.
Mind the gap.
is this in London
1:41 That's what we need in Germany even in Munich. These doors on the platform.
I keep waiting to hear Jago start narrating! 😂🤓
“there’s a reason London puts barriers on the tube lines”…
You would still be fucked if you feel onto the tracks of the metro you just showed, due to the high voltage rail in the middle of the tracks.
These must be some older ones, as they are fully exposed and would electrocute you if you came in contact with them.
Had no idea some stations have a big gap under the tracks. Very interesting.
Crappily made noisy stepping motors... ironically found in affluent nation transit hardware.
We need these in NYC. So many people get pushed into the tracks and killed by drug addicts and violent people let out by the bail reform policy.
Those doors are a nice idea. I doubt we’ll get them in America, though. I don’t see anybody wanting to put tax dollars into that, or any other kind of money
Thanks for making this video, this was rather interesting to learn about these pits and we need more platform edge doors on other lines! I think it would the Victoria a lot
I think That TFL need to add platform edge doors on every underground station like the ones on the jubilee line extension and the New Elizabeth line to stop people from being pushed or jumping in front of trains.
Those stations look so clean. I visited NYC a few times and took the subway, i don't remember ever seeing such clean stations and modern trains
Here in kolkata we have this platform doors in every metro stations when they were making the underwater metro routes. Because of the suicides we were not allowed to be on the platflom if we skip a train to catch the next one. We had to wait outside of the platform. One time I skipped one train to wait for my friends and the guards over there just straight away told me to *uck off. So glad we have these doors now. No more suicides on metro.
I was looking for the "pits" all through the video when I realized the track itself is supposed to be the "pit" as it's much lower than the platform. Weird, it's like that everywhere in Hungary so I had no idea what the big deal was.
The track is not the pit, the track is several feet above the pit held up on stilts. If the track _was_ the pit then it would just be like every other subway station in the world. You can clearly see at 0:22 that the middle rail is raised up on stilts.
@@krashd well yea, that's what I meant. It's the lowered base of the track area between the two rails, to be more precise. But at first I was looking for actual pitholes, like a grave.
Due to the amount of sucides on railways in the UK. I think the platform edge doors are the BEST idea to help in prevention of these poor people with SEVERE DEPRESSION!!! wanting to end their lives by rail. These safety doors will NOT open until the train has entered the station & come to a complete stop FIRST!!!!! Unless opened by rail staff for maintenance or emergency work. Public cannot gain access to the track 😉👍 Hopefully better security can be improved for other open parts of the rail networks ( bridges & damaged / open (vandalised fences) Although i know they try to keep up on this these unfortunate suicides still continue on the railways from time to time. 😟😮😯
You missed a point that the stations you showed with the sliding doors are in the bankers part of town….why …because this is where a lot of s*icides were happening in the 90s linked to people losing money at the stock exchange- these stations haven’t become the standard though the Victoria line was regenerated and these doors weren’t put in and even we’ve got a new Elizabeth line and it isn’t like this all the way though
If you're going to off yourself, do it somewhere private. Don't traumatize other bystanders.
I think all categories of train stations should have the station doors that the Jubilee line have
Anyone who really wants to commit suicide by train would probably time it so they're hit as the train is running through. These pits won't save many suicides. The doors however would 100% work.
Like mama said, *USE YOUR WORDS* _Descriptions would be nicer_
Why don't they just have a big fuck off partition, that opens when a train stops? I'm thinking Garage style roller doors.
So they have money for the Elisabeth Line and money for HS2, but platform screen doors to prevent people committing suicide that's too much
Just like elevators, and an excellent safety feature that must have put up another couple of hundred jobs. But reading some of the comments has me aghast and saddened, and I never want to think of people as statisticals. Courage park?
The pit being shallow is much better. In the NYC subway the pit is so deep that you actually need a significant degree of athleticism to get out if you fall in. The real self-harm of the London subway, though, is sitting on those disgusting cushion seats.