Considering that the Doberman was bred by a tax collector as a canine bodyguard back when they still went door to door on collection day, it was probably done originally to make them more intimidating and harder to grab in a fight.
It literally was done to make them look intimidating and harder to grab since they were also used as police dogs, I don’t know why the other person just straight up lied about it
@VIINOM Standard for breed is not what breeder intended its what people decide afterwards. Perfect example are german shepherds, im sure breeder dud not intemd for them to be defoemed and inbred, yet here we are.
Correct, but if a dog is a working/protection dog lots of the time ears and tails can get damaged so by cropping them it can be less painful for them over the years
@@lauraanne5175 Then your not very bright ever wonder why beagles can't move their ears? OK I'll get an article to prove my statement Here's one from 2013 Whether the dog has flopped or pricked ears, they both have 18 separate muscles that control the position of the ear. Each type of ear goes through the same range of motions, it's just that the weight of a drop-ear prevents it from scanning the horizon like a radar dish. For example, a small triangular flap ear, such as a pug's, can be held back away from the head, pricked up, flopped down and more. However, contrast this with a breed such as the Cocker Spaniel, who has heavy, dangly ears coated in luxurious fur, or the long, heavy ears of the Bloodhound, and you see they are physically unable to lift the weight of those ears.
@@LazyspaceoutOkay. Beagle owner here and my beagle can move her ears just fine on her own without any complications. There are also plenty of beagles at the kennel I work at and they move their ears just fine as well. It’s when you get into bloodhound and basset hound territory where their ears are so long that they can’t really move them
Most breeds that commonly crop ears and tails were originally dog fighting breeds, they cropped ears and tails to give the other dogs less to grab onto in a fight.
We live in the country and have barbwire fences; we have ours done so they don't get snagged. It has happened to one of our girls. It ripped her ear in the middle.
@@huananinait's not like they're gonna cut it up without any anesthesia and care about the dog's protection. And it does have other benefits like less risks for infections, or improved hearing. It's just like getting a circumcision.
There cropped cause ppl think it’s better and more intimidating when there is a intruder you see cropped tails with rotty’s too but cropping the tail makes 0 sense ears might have a benefit but no clue why cropping the tail even helps
@@Midnightsuckscoc I believe in us that’s one reason they have trouble trying to ban cropping and docking. Because of neutering and spaying it’s literally no different like literally. U have to give ur dog meds after the procedure and have to make sure they don’t get hurt during activities after being neutered and spayed lol.
@@aliboinphotography8953puppy is not a human, therefore has no human rights. Its up to the owners what they do with their dog as the choose, as long as it’s done by a professional and doesn’t abuse the dog.
I had my Sophie's ears cropped and she was just the cutest thing you've ever seen. All her mannerisms were adorable. I miss her so much even though it's been years :(
I’m so sry for ur loss and I don’t get why ppl get so mad like guys relax 😭 and with they’re floppy ears they look cute but I feel like when they get older they look better with their ears cropped bc we have one and b4 we got his ears cropped ppl would always think he was a wiener dog 🙏😭
Huh, yeah, that is true. I guess we'll just have to see how things go. Don't forget to sign the log book and lock the door. Have a great summer and we'll see you at launch.
The reason is obvious, although forgot. These are functional dogs used for security/war/fight. When being bite, an enemy (other dog, a soldier, a trespasser etc.) could grab the dog ears as a weak point. In a way to make it release the bite. Same thing with the tail.
Yeah but the part about then communicating with their ears and tail is very true. I am against tail docking 100% because of the communication part. As far as ear cropping just leave enough ear for ear movements to be noticiable
I have heard about this and BTS jungkook have a doberman as his pet named Jeon Bam and is a very kind and friendly dog Jungkook didn't cut his dogs ears and tail he is such a kind guy. I love BTS 💜.
Castrated men have about 80% (made it up like you did) less chance of testicular cancer. In Australia, we maintain the health of floppy dog ears by using ear drops, drying sprays and giving an actual shit about our animals.
Source? And even if, that just means that the breeding process is harmful to the dog, considering it started with wolves who have standing ears to begin with. Why create a dog breed with floppy ears, just to cut them afterwards?
As a owner of two flop eared Doby’s I wish I would have had them done. They get yeasty ear a lot. I had to clean them once a week to keep it from happening. Without ears cropped, they get little air into them to stop this from happening.
@@bryanhauschild4376That ear cropping and tail docking prevents nothing, and worse it adss maluses for the dog (along with the pain after surgery). Also, let's even say that the procedure does prevent those things. By the same logic, why don't you cut off your fingers so that you prevent from breaking them in the future?
I had my Doberman’s ears cropped to help with her chronic ear infections- After the crop the infections completely stopped- Also; I’m not sure what the whole ear/communication concern is about; my dog can lay her ears down, stand them up, put them back, swivel them around, they are not stuck in “aggressive mode” and she can honestly put them in more positions than a dog with floppy ears so again, not sure what they’re talking about here- wolves, coyotes, fox, none of them have floppy ears
Fr though the anti croppers just don’t get it nor do they want to believe in the health benefits, always saying shit like “there’s no evidence for your claims”. Like, yes there is, you’re just choosing not to listen to first hand witnesses like ACTUAL OWNERS.
Understood & true. Had a Rottie 10 year's that suffered from chronic ear infections due to the flop ears & air not able to circulate inside the ear. One of the first things I found out about dogs with flop ears due to reading a book about the breed after i purchased. Next dog i got was a Doberman with the ears cropped. No ear infections. Also the Doberman could lower or raise its ears & had no communication problems.
Of my dobe didn't have her ears or tail cropped, my other dobe we rescued had her tail cropped and we cropped her ears because she was getting terrible ear infections. She was never bothered by her ears being pinned nor did it hurt her. BUT! Please get it done by a vet that deals with dobes. Our vet shows her dobes.
Oooooooor, address the cause of the infection instead of mutilating your dog because you're too lazy to maintain the health of your dogs ears. There are ear drops and sprays specifically formulated for this purpose.
Honestly the communication thing makes sense if you were talking about the pitbull crop, which takes off about 90% of the ear. Doberman crops, however, only take off enough to get the ear to stand up on its own and not fall forward. Honestly I think erect ears make it easier for me to tell how the doberman is feeling. They're like flags being moved back and forth. The flopped ears are a bit subtle for me to see sometimes. Also crops on Dobermans don't actually have any long-lasting health effects if the procedure is done right, despite what some critical activists claim.
These dogs need tail docking their large powerful tails get broken easily. Also, cropping ears while this is a preference helps eliminate ear infections for the dog. Plus, if done correctly at the correct time the dog does not have any pain. I didn't have a choice when I was circumcised, do I remember the pain, NO. People in the long run this is better for these breeds they are not beeing hurt. Also if you see someone with a dog that is cropped and docked mind your own business usually they come frome the breeder that way.
There is enough scientifix studies implying dogs with cropped ears and tails suffer since they feel like they cant communicate their normal way. Stop justifying animal cruelty
Just had our 10wk old male Rambo ears cropped. I did it because it's traditional to the breed. Just the look of the cropped ear Doberman is a deterrent to anyone looking to do harm. At 10 weeks I socialize him with new people and dogs weekly to raise him as a well mannered Doberman come adulthood.
On my 3rd Dobie in my life. Best breed in my personal opinion and mine are treated as family. He is the 1st line of defense and a great deterrent while I'm at work and my teenagers are home alone should anyone have some ill intentions. I accessorize mine cosmetically like my AR's. They're very smart and 1 family oriented, but the entire point is so he doesn't look approachable and people stay away. It's that simple. I hate when people make excuses for why they do it instead of just owning it.
I just shake my head when people state "you're just doing it for cosmetics." There's plenty of reasons to do it but none of them are any of their business. It's none of my business that they feed their dog junk when i feel very strongly about feeding mine nutritious fresh food. If we have the same type of dog though, I bet my cropped and docked will live at least 5 years longer and healthier than their dog fed on McDonald's and yeast filled bags of dry dog food.
@@seansean7643 Has it occurred to you that people who don't cut up their dogs ears to look cool, can also feed their dog well? Just accept it's a deplorable scummy thing and just say you don't care, that's the only thing people like you have. Cos you ain't winning the moral argument without making things up in your head pal.
I have a doberman. We got him at about 3 months of age. We tried to keep his floppy ears like the previous owner was planning. But after multiple severe ear infections back to back to back, the vet is recommended cropping his ears because of how much water activities we do. And boom ear infections gone now he can enjoy swimming without the stress of constant ear infections. So my Dobie has cropped ears and a long tail 😅
Such a great story, yet so many self-righteous, virtue-signaling idealists act as if the procedure has no benefit whatsoever and enjoy playing it up as animal cruelty.
With Dobermans you Have 3 options, Cropped Ears, or “Taping down” their natural floppy ears. Or leaving them natural. Taping the ears down is a method not many people know of and is usually done outside the US. Taping their ears down while young trains their cartilage, so their floppy ears stay flushed against the side of their skull. To give a sleek look.
East are cropped, tails are docked, breeders are continuing the procedure where find in a vet who'll do it more and more rare. I found a vet who would conduct the procedure only if the ear cartilage sufficient for success. I would never do it again!!! However the tail docking is valuable I think!
As long as they get taken to a professional I don’t see a problem. My Doberman looks so scary he deters problems before they even get started. That’s a good benefit to cropped ears.
Mine is sitting beside me right now after having him as my best friend and secondary protector of our house, I choose not to crop his ears. They rarely get dirty and an intruder won’t be grabbing his ears while he’s biting their ass. He’s trained, smart and most of all loyal and loving, unless you mess with us. Happy 8 years thus far floppy eared Apollo!
Sometimes docking ears or tails are good for some dogs. It prevents whipping tails and causing them to bleed. And it stops ear infections (SOMETIMES). I think it’s fine if it’s for medical reasons and it’s done professionally
A major component to cropping ears no one talks about is ear infections- they’re less prone to getting them. I have two dobi’s and would do it but it’s expensive
My baby had his tail cut off too when i got him, i was planning on getting his ears cropped before I had him but when he arrived home I could never imagine my baby going through all that pain and struggle for weeks!
Volunteer at a Doberman rescue. Unless the Doberman is hunting no reason to dock and crop. It’s purely an aesthetic choice for a stay at home dog. But I still had my baby cropped and docked as I believe much like people, dogs want to look and feel their best. The attention she receives for her look def gives her an ego boost as she never leaves the house without receiving a handful of compliments. And this day and age it’s 100% able to be done with consideration. My baby was given pain meds, anesthesia, blood work, anti biotics. I don’t think it should be banned but like with humans it should be illegal for dogs to get backyard ear crops and tail docks. Should be done by professionals with care.
I can't believe you start with "purely an aesthetic choice" and then talk about how the dog would want that, too, as if a dog would care about their looks! And that coming from someone who works at a rescue! Faith in humanity destroyed once again. You remind me of that Japanese mom in a documentary who got her primary school age daughter through various plastic surgery procedures, because she believes being "pretty" will be better for her in the future. Unbelievable and sad. So goddamn sad.
Cropped ears means no ear infections ... the ears are always aired .... why would cropped ears be disallowed when some boys are circumcised as small as 7 days old ...
Laziness, they can't be tucked to maintain the health of their dogs ears and american vets are also too lazy to recommend antibiotics, ear drops and drying sprays for floppy eared dogs.
they should not ban tail docking because of happy tail. they are high energy dogs and their tails can get infected and eventually might have to get amputated off as an adult.
Cropping a Doberman's ears actually increases its ability to communicate via body language, because it can rotate, perk, or flatten the ears just like a husky, GSD, corgi, or any dog with naturally straight ears. A floppy eared dog cannot do that, as the ears are always limp. Dobermans were also the one and only breed created for the specific purpose of protecting an individual (as opposed to protecting livestock or a property). They are meant to look menacing, since a "cute" looking dog doesn't really make a good deterrent and must actively be trained in protection work to be an effective deterrent at all (if that's why you got the dog). My dobie girl is a rescue, but with her cropped ears and only half docked tail, she can use both to clearly communicate with everybody we meet. While she gets along great with strangers and friends alike, she is also an excellent "creep deterrent" and can certainly put on her Scary Face when needed.
I love people that are so against having a dogs ears cropped yet circumcise their kids without a second thought. Both have cosmetic and hygienic benefits but could just as easily be left another.
They are ok cutting the ball off the exact dog that they are against war cropping or tail docking. It’s all a surgery for the owners convenience. People need to stop pretending cutting the tail or ear is less terrible than cutting off a dogs genitalia.
Docking and cropping serve a legitimate purpose. Their ears are NOT cut off, they are cut and made to stand erect. The docking and cropping were done in Dobermans because the Doberman is the only dog that was created from the ground up to be a personal protection dog. First of all, the original cropping of the ears was an extremely much shorter cut and was done so that the dogs long floppy ears could not be bitten by another animal easily or grabbed by a human to hold the dog back. The show ring is responsible for the long show cut we see in many dogs today. Also, docking of the tail was also done to make it so that a person could not grab the animal by the tail and control the animal. As a retired LEO, I have seen dogs grabbed by the long tail and thrown around and even dragged away from a scene because they could be controlled by grabbing their tail. If we docked that tails properly and returned to the original shorter ear cropping it would all be obvious to the casual onlooker. Ear cropping and tail docking are tools to actually help keep the dog safe and also assist in the work they were actually designed for. Too many dogs are now simply pets and too many people listen to the words of the uniformed. Dobermans are working dogs and were created for personal protection. Docking and cropping also happens to give the dog a certain "look" but that was not why these things were done. Look up Dobermans from years ago, especially the history of the Doberman Pinscher. You will see extremely shorter ears and you will also find a dog with much more drive and working ability than most dogs today.
@@BearBottoms Fighting dogs has nothing to do with his topic. It is a modern way to play on emotions and feelings. Dog fighting is wrong and most people know it. To try and throw it in with this topic is typical of how people operate today. Associate a known bad thing (dog fighting) with something else and add the stigma. Wrong!! One thing has nothing to do with the other. Docking and cropping serve legitimate purposes that are beneficial to a working dog in the long run. Humans have manipulated and created just about every breed in the world. What about spaying and neutering? Removing a dogs testicles is severe, yet people talk about it like it's no big deal. Cutting a dog open and performing unnecessary surgery on their internals is beyond invasive yet it is done regularly, Is that okay?
@@notsosilentmajority1 It is mutilation with no benefit. I said "we also fought dogs" as in past tense where society (humans) basically allowed it. The point you missed is you are trying to justify mutilation as humans did dog Fighting.
@@BearBottoms There is a benefit to the dog when the dog is doing what it was bred to do. I am not trying to justify anything. I am stating a fact as to why docking and cropping were done. Both procedures serve a very legitimate purpose for the dog and can actually protect those dogs while performing their duties.
So are piercings, circumcision, tattoos, plastic surgery, removing non lethal skin growths, sex changes, puberty blockers….When those are outlawed, then we can discuss dogs.
For a guard dog, less ear and tail to grab is a good idea. My dobermans are not guard dogs, so I'll take em as they come. Do not fear my dogs, fear me as they are family.
German breeds keep the ways they were bred for working. Doberman, Rottweiler, boxers always dock the tail. The ears are specific to the person and what they like. Curting the tails like we always did with out boxers and never had a problem, thats done so the tail doesn't impede in the working by knocking into things etc. The ears are done due to the hanging of the ear on top of itself promotes ear mites, thus why cutting the ears helps. Im a champion akc retired breeder so do what you want in the comments, ive seen it in the proper uses.
Please do your research...cropping opens up the ears to more air and lessons the chance of ear infections and having to clean them as much. I have had Dobes with and without cropped ears. Without exception, the ones without the cropped ears had ear infections and lots of cleaning of dark yeast I had to do in the ears. Those with the cropped ears...nothing. Also, the cropped tails and ears were for fighting and protection breeds in the day, making it hard for humans or other dogs to hold or grab by the tail or ears, or bite the ears or tail.
In a Doberman tail docking and ear cropping are corrections from breeding. All dogs in nature have Erect ears, with the crop you can read the dogs intentions much better. A Doberman has a high set, thin, wispy tail that is prone to breaking, that's the reason for the tail docking
@@christinah1379 And your point is? Yes, both practices should be banned, as should circumcision for any nonmedical reason under 18, including religious genital mutilation rituals! Cutting of animals and babies must stop!
It is legal here in the UK 🇬🇧.. But only if the dog is being used as a working dog. And it’s legal for the dog owner to have the tail cut off at the second joint at the appropriate age usually when the dog is about 1 month or older The ears however they have to be done by a licensed vet professional. Again this procedure is only for working dogs. :PROTECTION :SECURITY :GUARD DOGS :ATTACK TRAINED :MILITARY PURPOSE :POLICE K9 UNIT. and so on.. The controversy around this procedure has been taken way long to inform the public about the facts and it. Ear cropping and tail removal is for a few reasons. But people who have already made up their minds about it are unwilling to listen to the experts who have the dogs best interests. It’s done to stop the dog from being compromised by their tail being grabbed. The ear cropping is to allow the dog to have complete listening ability. And it can also appear aestheticly intimidating. The tail will not be seen to be wagging. Because people who don’t understand k9 body language could take that behaviour of the dog wrong. For example if the dog is wagging its tail. That dose NOT mean that the dog is in a playful mood. Many reasons for this procedure include the tail could be trapped
Same with people that alter their and their child’s bodies. Piercings, tattoos, cosmetic surgery, circumcision… Also, fixing a dog is also more invasive and taking the reproductive rights away from the dog. Just owning an animal is evil, as they all should be wild. Do you see how where I’m going with this? That’s how you come off.
We do enough damage to dogs by breeding them to excess and showing with ridiculous extremes. Cropping and docking is going too far for “beauty” standards. Illegal here in Australia too.
Cropping was originally made not just as cosmetics. Origin declares this is used to avoid their floppy ears from being ripped of when in a fight with other dogs or humans. Same purpose why they have their tails cut off. They are originally made to be guard dogs. And erected ears also strike fear to others at it looks intimidating.
@@Ah-us8be Listen kid, if you look around you, you can see not all are rich. Right? I don't know which side of the bed you woke up today and decided what they should be. But back then long before you were born they were already used as protection. Not just for people but for livestock as well. So idc what you think. Not all are rich and this is the best they can afford. Specially farmers. The fact you said what you said above all common sense, makes me think this is good because it seems dogs are smarter than you.
The original Dobermann, bred by Karl Dobermann, actually had upright ears, naturally. Over time they have become 'floppy', which is normal. To rectify this with surgery, at a young age, is just ridiculous, pointless and stupid. My Dobermann has floppy ears - no health issues, no ear problems, he can hear just fine. Don't find excuses for mauling your dog. And stop mauling your dog. There's a good reason it's been banned in some countries. Just because it isn't banned in yours (yet), does not make it an ethical choice. Behave and stop cutting your dog.
My Dobermans are cropped. They certainly express their emotions by moving their ears and tails. They have had zero ear infections and no health issues as a result. People should actually do a little research on the breed's history instead of letting their feelings do their thinking for them. Politicians should stay out of people's business.
Disgusting practice ...any owner that thinks it's ok to pump a puppy full of ketamine to chops it's ears off (solely for asrhetics) should feel ashamed of themselves.
Actually it's the guy who established the breed - Doberman himself who did this so that their hearing would be sharpened. No need nowadays, especially not for a pet. Though I can understand cropping the ears of a police dog for instance.
Some dogs just flat out look better with cropped ears then without. The Doberman is definitely one of them. So does a Canis Panther which has Doberman in it!!!
Considering that the Doberman was bred by a tax collector as a canine bodyguard back when they still went door to door on collection day, it was probably done originally to make them more intimidating and harder to grab in a fight.
It wasnt.
It literally was done to make them look intimidating and harder to grab since they were also used as police dogs, I don’t know why the other person just straight up lied about it
@@SOMETIMESIMHOTlol.
@@gustawmajewski9911 it was that’s why it’s breed standard for Dobermans
@VIINOM
Standard for breed is not what breeder intended its what people decide afterwards.
Perfect example are german shepherds, im sure breeder dud not intemd for them to be defoemed and inbred, yet here we are.
These dogs communicate better than any dog I have ever had.
Truth. It can be annoying sometimes.
Correct, but if a dog is a working/protection dog lots of the time ears and tails can get damaged so by cropping them it can be less painful for them over the years
YEAH........."communicate" ...😂😂😂😂
Yah same I have a Doberman
@@carlspackler91are you denying they communicate
A Doberman with cropped ears can in fact raise and lower them
Or move thr side to side, the large the floppy ears the Harder they are to move
@@Lazyspaceout you drank the idiot juice today. I beg you never to get a pet of any kind , if you truly believe that.
@@lauraanne5175
Then your not very bright ever wonder why beagles can't move their ears? OK I'll get an article to prove my statement
Here's one from 2013
Whether the dog has flopped or pricked ears, they both have 18 separate muscles that control the position of the ear. Each type of ear goes through the same range of motions, it's just that the weight of a drop-ear prevents it from scanning the horizon like a radar dish.
For example, a small triangular flap ear, such as a pug's, can be held back away from the head, pricked up, flopped down and more. However, contrast this with a breed such as the Cocker Spaniel, who has heavy, dangly ears coated in luxurious fur, or the long, heavy ears of the Bloodhound, and you see they are physically unable to lift the weight of those ears.
objectively speaking, more movement than non cropped
@@LazyspaceoutOkay. Beagle owner here and my beagle can move her ears just fine on her own without any complications. There are also plenty of beagles at the kennel I work at and they move their ears just fine as well. It’s when you get into bloodhound and basset hound territory where their ears are so long that they can’t really move them
Most breeds that commonly crop ears and tails were originally dog fighting breeds, they cropped ears and tails to give the other dogs less to grab onto in a fight.
We live in the country and have barbwire fences; we have ours done so they don't get snagged. It has happened to one of our girls. It ripped her ear in the middle.
They look awesome with the ears cropped
Sure, but that's the only reason. So why put a pet you say you love through such a stressful procedure?
@@huananinabecause they look awesome with the ears cropped
@@harjotgrewal5527 I take that, but you can't tell me you actually love your dog choosing looks over their well-being.
@@huananinait's not like they're gonna cut it up without any anesthesia and care about the dog's protection. And it does have other benefits like less risks for infections, or improved hearing. It's just like getting a circumcision.
When we got our Doberman, he already had his tail cut off, but we thought that was enough so we didn’t cut his ears because again emotions
I have a Doberman, She has floppy ears, and long tail, I'm against the ears and tail being cropped
The long ears make all dogs have more earwax
In France cropped ears is illegal
I have one too and if I was against going under the knife no matter what circumstance then I would be against neutering and spaying
There cropped cause ppl think it’s better and more intimidating when there is a intruder you see cropped tails with rotty’s too but cropping the tail makes 0 sense ears might have a benefit but no clue why cropping the tail even helps
@@Midnightsuckscoc I believe in us that’s one reason they have trouble trying to ban cropping and docking. Because of neutering and spaying it’s literally no different like literally. U have to give ur dog meds after the procedure and have to make sure they don’t get hurt during activities after being neutered and spayed lol.
Dogs with pointed ears are found to be intimidating by some people. A concept confirmed by workers in Veterinary clinics and shelters.
most vets don't do ear cropping
You shared just facts and sides but no personal opinions. This is what an informative video should be like 👏
The communication part was not a fact. You can in fact communicate with a dog that has cropped ears.
Maybe they should ban breast implants and facelifts
People choose plastic surgery. A puppy doesn’t choose to get its tail and ears cut off
Exactly!
@@aliboinphotography8953puppy is not a human, therefore has no human rights. Its up to the owners what they do with their dog as the choose, as long as it’s done by a professional and doesn’t abuse the dog.
Stupid answer real dumb
Facelifts should be banned. Breast implants are more fun. When she lies back and they still stick up. rather than pool in her armpits
I had my Sophie's ears cropped and she was just the cutest thing you've ever seen. All her mannerisms were adorable. I miss her so much even though it's been years :(
I’m so sry for ur loss and I don’t get why ppl get so mad like guys relax 😭 and with they’re floppy ears they look cute but I feel like when they get older they look better with their ears cropped bc we have one and b4 we got his ears cropped ppl would always think he was a wiener dog 🙏😭
Huh, yeah, that is true. I guess we'll just have to see how things go. Don't forget to sign the log book and lock the door. Have a great summer and we'll see you at launch.
But why put the animal through plastic surgery only for your personal taste?
The reason is obvious, although forgot. These are functional dogs used for security/war/fight. When being bite, an enemy (other dog, a soldier, a trespasser etc.) could grab the dog ears as a weak point. In a way to make it release the bite. Same thing with the tail.
Maybe if you have to join the army we should cut your balls off so you can't be hurt there.
Shame people don’t know the history or understand the functional aspects as you described. Many go simply with “feelings”
@@jkconner9636 bigger the shame cause only need to use observation and thinking.
Yeah but the part about then communicating with their ears and tail is very true. I am against tail docking 100% because of the communication part. As far as ear cropping just leave enough ear for ear movements to be noticiable
How many of these are used for war and security in the US today versus how many are pets?
I have a Doberman with cropped tail, done before I got him, and ears I left long and beautiful
I have heard about this and BTS jungkook have a doberman as his pet named Jeon Bam and is a very kind and friendly dog Jungkook didn't cut his dogs ears and tail he is such a kind guy.
I love BTS 💜.
BTS are such icons tbh and im not even a kpop fan
bruhhh bts is gay
Do whatever you want
To yourself ....ok. But to another living creature ?
@@ericgrace9995 yes
Dogs with cropped ears have about 80% less ear infections... And that's a fact
I had a dog with floppy ears and we spent our time constantly fighting his ear infections.
Castrated men have about 80% (made it up like you did) less chance of testicular cancer.
In Australia, we maintain the health of floppy dog ears by using ear drops, drying sprays and giving an actual shit about our animals.
No !!!!
Source?
And even if, that just means that the breeding process is harmful to the dog, considering it started with wolves who have standing ears to begin with. Why create a dog breed with floppy ears, just to cut them afterwards?
As a owner of two flop eared Doby’s I wish I would have had them done. They get yeasty ear a lot. I had to clean them once a week to keep it from happening. Without ears cropped, they get little air into them to stop this from happening.
This is not true from a biological pov.
Find a better vet.
@@BioTheHuman what is true?
@@bryanhauschild4376That ear cropping and tail docking prevents nothing, and worse it adss maluses for the dog (along with the pain after surgery).
Also, let's even say that the procedure does prevent those things. By the same logic, why don't you cut off your fingers so that you prevent from breaking them in the future?
@@BioTheHuman what’s adss maluses?
@@bryanhauschild4376 adds*
(pain, less balance cause missing tail etc)
Very beautiful dog😊❤
I had my Doberman’s ears cropped to help with her chronic ear infections-
After the crop the infections completely stopped-
Also; I’m not sure what the whole ear/communication concern is about; my dog can lay her ears down, stand them up, put them back, swivel them around, they are not stuck in “aggressive mode” and she can honestly put them in more positions than a dog with floppy ears so again, not sure what they’re talking about here-
wolves, coyotes, fox, none of them have floppy ears
Fr though the anti croppers just don’t get it nor do they want to believe in the health benefits, always saying shit like “there’s no evidence for your claims”. Like, yes there is, you’re just choosing not to listen to first hand witnesses like ACTUAL OWNERS.
Thats what i find confusing
Understood & true. Had a Rottie 10 year's that suffered from chronic ear infections due to the flop ears & air not able to circulate inside the ear. One of the first things I found out about dogs with flop ears due to reading a book about the breed after i purchased. Next dog i got was a Doberman with the ears cropped. No ear infections. Also the Doberman could lower or raise its ears & had no communication problems.
No dog should look like batman all the time
German Shepard have pointy ears (this is not in support of ear cropping I’m just saying those dogs rock the constant Batman look)
_That’s a horrible point to make & only works against your argument when everyone thinks Batman looks badass & cool af lol_ ✂️🐶🦇
Of my dobe didn't have her ears or tail cropped, my other dobe we rescued had her tail cropped and we cropped her ears because she was getting terrible ear infections. She was never bothered by her ears being pinned nor did it hurt her. BUT! Please get it done by a vet that deals with dobes. Our vet shows her dobes.
Oooooooor, address the cause of the infection instead of mutilating your dog because you're too lazy to maintain the health of your dogs ears. There are ear drops and sprays specifically formulated for this purpose.
@@GM-qq1wi🤦
Honestly the communication thing makes sense if you were talking about the pitbull crop, which takes off about 90% of the ear. Doberman crops, however, only take off enough to get the ear to stand up on its own and not fall forward. Honestly I think erect ears make it easier for me to tell how the doberman is feeling. They're like flags being moved back and forth. The flopped ears are a bit subtle for me to see sometimes. Also crops on Dobermans don't actually have any long-lasting health effects if the procedure is done right, despite what some critical activists claim.
You are crazy.
@@tek5670 Thanks lol
@@fructosecornsyrup5759 it’s not a compliment.
@@tek5670 Not to you, at least.
If you can pull an unfounded claim out of your ass I can take it however I want.
No
These dogs need tail docking their large powerful tails get broken easily. Also, cropping ears while this is a preference helps eliminate ear infections for the dog. Plus, if done correctly at the correct time the dog does not have any pain. I didn't have a choice when I was circumcised, do I remember the pain, NO. People in the long run this is better for these breeds they are not beeing hurt. Also if you see someone with a dog that is cropped and docked mind your own business usually they come frome the breeder that way.
There is enough scientifix studies implying dogs with cropped ears and tails suffer since they feel like they cant communicate their normal way. Stop justifying animal cruelty
Last part is so true. They do come that way by their previous owner
Just had our 10wk old male Rambo ears cropped. I did it because it's traditional to the breed. Just the look of the cropped ear Doberman is a deterrent to anyone looking to do harm. At 10 weeks I socialize him with new people and dogs weekly to raise him as a well mannered Doberman come adulthood.
On my 3rd Dobie in my life. Best breed in my personal opinion and mine are treated as family. He is the 1st line of defense and a great deterrent while I'm at work and my teenagers are home alone should anyone have some ill intentions. I accessorize mine cosmetically like my AR's. They're very smart and 1 family oriented, but the entire point is so he doesn't look approachable and people stay away. It's that simple. I hate when people make excuses for why they do it instead of just owning it.
I just shake my head when people state "you're just doing it for cosmetics." There's plenty of reasons to do it but none of them are any of their business. It's none of my business that they feed their dog junk when i feel very strongly about feeding mine nutritious fresh food. If we have the same type of dog though, I bet my cropped and docked will live at least 5 years longer and healthier than their dog fed on McDonald's and yeast filled bags of dry dog food.
@@seansean7643 Has it occurred to you that people who don't cut up their dogs ears to look cool, can also feed their dog well? Just accept it's a deplorable scummy thing and just say you don't care, that's the only thing people like you have. Cos you ain't winning the moral argument without making things up in your head pal.
A doberman needs it's ears cropped because of infections. Ears smacking the dog when running can cause blisters and infections.
I have a doberman. We got him at about 3 months of age. We tried to keep his floppy ears like the previous owner was planning. But after multiple severe ear infections back to back to back, the vet is recommended cropping his ears because of how much water activities we do. And boom ear infections gone now he can enjoy swimming without the stress of constant ear infections. So my Dobie has cropped ears and a long tail 😅
Such a great story, yet so many self-righteous, virtue-signaling idealists act as if the procedure has no benefit whatsoever and enjoy playing it up as animal cruelty.
Was he also getting tail infections?
sounds like you just didnt know how to properly care for your dog. SO you made it easier on you at the poor dogs expense.
@lauraanne5175 sounds like you have an opinion I could care less about.
He said that he cut off only ears due to infection but has a long tail@@travi7005
With Dobermans you Have 3 options, Cropped Ears, or “Taping down” their natural floppy ears. Or leaving them natural.
Taping the ears down is a method not many people know of and is usually done outside the US. Taping their ears down while young trains their cartilage, so their floppy ears stay flushed against the side of their skull. To give a sleek look.
My dads doberman doesnt have cut tails nor ears and she looks cute af when she sleeps
East are cropped, tails are docked, breeders are continuing the procedure where find in a vet who'll do it more and more rare. I found a vet who would conduct the procedure only if the ear cartilage sufficient for success. I would never do it again!!! However the tail docking is valuable I think!
As long as they get taken to a professional I don’t see a problem. My Doberman looks so scary he deters problems before they even get started. That’s a good benefit to cropped ears.
It’s cosmetically why would anyone be allowed to cut of parts of their body for aesthetic purposes
They just look more badass with cropped ears. Nothing less nothing more.
While their ears are trained to stand, they can still move them down and up and convey different emotions. Mine does.
This practice is cruel and I’m happy my country the UK bans this. It’s despicable and evil do STOP.
Mine is sitting beside me right now after having him as my best friend and secondary protector of our house, I choose not to crop his ears. They rarely get dirty and an intruder won’t be grabbing his ears while he’s biting their ass. He’s trained, smart and most of all loyal and loving, unless you mess with us. Happy 8 years thus far floppy eared Apollo!
Sometimes docking ears or tails are good for some dogs. It prevents whipping tails and causing them to bleed. And it stops ear infections (SOMETIMES). I think it’s fine if it’s for medical reasons and it’s done professionally
A major component to cropping ears no one talks about is ear infections- they’re less prone to getting them. I have two dobi’s and would do it but it’s expensive
My cropped and docked dobbie communicates now more than if she wasnt cropped. You can certainly tell her mood bu how she has her ears.
Yeah now crop her head she'll communicate even better. Goddamn buffoons
Sooo... you mutilated your dog for no reason ?
@@HHH-xj1tm could say the same about circumcision
@@salfabbio1738 You could but the difference is that circumcision has benefits. Cropped ears has none.
@@salfabbio1738exactly, don't circumcise dogs either
My German shepherd can still communicate, and his ears are obviously up lol
Yes but they are naturally like that
Naturally standing ears are completely different than cropped ears. Your dog's ears have more mobility and can communicate body language much easier.
Good observation most people are snowflakes tbh my doberman communicates way better cropped
@@Jade-tf5kb It doesn’t make a difference 😂
@@Tubenuub I have 5 dogs one of them being a large German Shepard and I don’t I’ve ever looked at his ears to check his body language…
My dobie is cropped and he does just fine. He can still communicate through his ears and tail just fine. Any real dobie owner knows that.
That's not the point. Smh
My dobie has his ears and I love them ...his tail was cropped before I got him...but had he still had his tail I wouldn't have cropped it
My baby had his tail cut off too when i got him, i was planning on getting his ears cropped before I had him but when he arrived home I could never imagine my baby going through all that pain and struggle for weeks!
@@carmelalinka yea I didn't crop my pitties ears either ...I like my pups the way they were born haha
@@NeuralMuseBandPitbull's tails hurt when they hit you though LOL but I still wouldn't cut it.
@@luvxoxundertalehazbinhotel1835 that's no lie lol been hit plenty by my pitty tail lol
@@NeuralMuseBand they're so cute tho, you gotta forgive em 🐶
Volunteer at a Doberman rescue. Unless the Doberman is hunting no reason to dock and crop. It’s purely an aesthetic choice for a stay at home dog. But I still had my baby cropped and docked as I believe much like people, dogs want to look and feel their best. The attention she receives for her look def gives her an ego boost as she never leaves the house without receiving a handful of compliments. And this day and age it’s 100% able to be done with consideration. My baby was given pain meds, anesthesia, blood work, anti biotics. I don’t think it should be banned but like with humans it should be illegal for dogs to get backyard ear crops and tail docks. Should be done by professionals with care.
I can't believe you start with "purely an aesthetic choice" and then talk about how the dog would want that, too, as if a dog would care about their looks! And that coming from someone who works at a rescue! Faith in humanity destroyed once again.
You remind me of that Japanese mom in a documentary who got her primary school age daughter through various plastic surgery procedures, because she believes being "pretty" will be better for her in the future. Unbelievable and sad. So goddamn sad.
Cropped ears means no ear infections ... the ears are always aired .... why would cropped ears be disallowed when some boys are circumcised as small as 7 days old ...
The Bible cleaely tells you to circumcise a baby boy on the 8th day after his birth in Genesis so idk why people keep on comparing zzz
Exactly
Why are people still mutilating babies is what I'm wondering. It doesn't benefit anyone. (Maybe people who aren't able to wash themselves regularly.)
@@iryelles ITS IN THE BIBLE !
@@tracyreid8682 So? Most christians don't practice this. It's still about cutting a small baby without a developed immune system.
I'm still waiting to find out Why they get the cropped.....
Aesthetics nowadays
Prevent ear infections
To look more intimidating
It's what the owner wants
thats a lie, that is a hoax@@seansean7643
Laziness, they can't be tucked to maintain the health of their dogs ears and american vets are also too lazy to recommend antibiotics, ear drops and drying sprays for floppy eared dogs.
they should not ban tail docking because of happy tail. they are high energy dogs and their tails can get infected and eventually might have to get amputated off as an adult.
I think cropping the Dobermans’ ears hurts the dogs.
Animal cruelty 101
Form needs to follow function, If you got a dog for protection, tail docking and ear cropping make sense.
Love these dogs
Looks cooler than flopping ears😮😮😮😮
It's more common for dogs with closed ears to get ear infection
Cropping a Doberman's ears actually increases its ability to communicate via body language, because it can rotate, perk, or flatten the ears just like a husky, GSD, corgi, or any dog with naturally straight ears. A floppy eared dog cannot do that, as the ears are always limp.
Dobermans were also the one and only breed created for the specific purpose of protecting an individual (as opposed to protecting livestock or a property). They are meant to look menacing, since a "cute" looking dog doesn't really make a good deterrent and must actively be trained in protection work to be an effective deterrent at all (if that's why you got the dog).
My dobie girl is a rescue, but with her cropped ears and only half docked tail, she can use both to clearly communicate with everybody we meet. While she gets along great with strangers and friends alike, she is also an excellent "creep deterrent" and can certainly put on her Scary Face when needed.
You crop ears and tails because they blister when using the dog as a work dog
I love people that are so against having a dogs ears cropped yet circumcise their kids without a second thought. Both have cosmetic and hygienic benefits but could just as easily be left another.
Both of those things are bad and should be banned.
It’s purely cosmetic. Stop lying to yourself and everyone else.
@Flexb123 No
They are ok cutting the ball off the exact dog that they are against war cropping or tail docking. It’s all a surgery for the owners convenience. People need to stop pretending cutting the tail or ear is less terrible than cutting off a dogs genitalia.
@@mattuf22 No
Cropping Dobbies in Germany has been banned. Funny they do not mention this
Docking and cropping serve a legitimate purpose. Their ears are NOT cut off, they are cut and made to stand erect. The docking and cropping were done in Dobermans because the Doberman is the only dog that was created from the ground up to be a personal protection dog.
First of all, the original cropping of the ears was an extremely much shorter cut and was done so that the dogs long floppy ears could not be bitten by another animal easily or grabbed by a human to hold the dog back. The show ring is responsible for the long show cut we see in many dogs today. Also, docking of the tail was also done to make it so that a person could not grab the animal by the tail and control the animal. As a retired LEO, I have seen dogs grabbed by the long tail and thrown around and even dragged away from a scene because they could be controlled by grabbing their tail.
If we docked that tails properly and returned to the original shorter ear cropping it would all be obvious to the casual onlooker. Ear cropping and tail docking are tools to actually help keep the dog safe and also assist in the work they were actually designed for. Too many dogs are now simply pets and too many people listen to the words of the uniformed. Dobermans are working dogs and were created for personal protection. Docking and cropping also happens to give the dog a certain "look" but that was not why these things were done. Look up Dobermans from years ago, especially the history of the Doberman Pinscher. You will see extremely shorter ears and you will also find a dog with much more drive and working ability than most dogs today.
We also fought dogs. None of this is okay for humans to do.
@@BearBottoms
Fighting dogs has nothing to do with his topic. It is a modern way to play on emotions and feelings. Dog fighting is wrong and most people know it. To try and throw it in with this topic is typical of how people operate today. Associate a known bad thing (dog fighting) with something else and add the stigma. Wrong!! One thing has nothing to do with the other. Docking and cropping serve legitimate purposes that are beneficial to a working dog in the long run.
Humans have manipulated and created just about every breed in the world.
What about spaying and neutering?
Removing a dogs testicles is severe, yet people talk about it like it's no big deal. Cutting a dog open and performing unnecessary surgery on their internals is beyond invasive yet it is done regularly, Is that okay?
@@notsosilentmajority1 It is mutilation with no benefit. I said "we also fought dogs" as in past tense where society (humans) basically allowed it. The point you missed is you are trying to justify mutilation as humans did dog Fighting.
@@BearBottoms
There is a benefit to the dog when the dog is doing what it was bred to do. I am not trying to justify anything. I am stating a fact as to why docking and cropping were done. Both procedures serve a very legitimate purpose for the dog and can actually protect those dogs while performing their duties.
@Linda Torres
I have heard other people say the same thing. Thanks for the info. Best wishes. 👍
Cropping is cruel
I own a doberman too they are naturally perfect and cute❤️
So are piercings, circumcision, tattoos, plastic surgery, removing non lethal skin growths, sex changes, puberty blockers….When those are outlawed, then we can discuss dogs.
My dad has a Doberman, whom has his ears not cropped up, and he is 2 years old. He also thinks he is a lap dog😊
Keeping them is better simply because of the things stated at the end of this shirt. Dogs use their tails and ears to show their emotions.
UPPA WALES
They look special with their ears cut off
What’s the mainstream veterinarians opinion on this groping madness?
People cut off its ears and tails so that if it’s in a fight it does not get bit off and cause more pain.
No when Dobermans have ears up they wanna play or be protective
😊
For a guard dog, less ear and tail to grab is a good idea. My dobermans are not guard dogs, so I'll take em as they come. Do not fear my dogs, fear me as they are family.
German breeds keep the ways they were bred for working. Doberman, Rottweiler, boxers always dock the tail. The ears are specific to the person and what they like. Curting the tails like we always did with out boxers and never had a problem, thats done so the tail doesn't impede in the working by knocking into things etc. The ears are done due to the hanging of the ear on top of itself promotes ear mites, thus why cutting the ears helps. Im a champion akc retired breeder so do what you want in the comments, ive seen it in the proper uses.
Animal abuse and cruelty just for the sake of human selfishness and vanity!
Should be banned in the US as well
Please do your research...cropping opens up the ears to more air and lessons the chance of ear infections and having to clean them as much. I have had Dobes with and without cropped ears. Without exception, the ones without the cropped ears had ear infections and lots of cleaning of dark yeast I had to do in the ears. Those with the cropped ears...nothing. Also, the cropped tails and ears were for fighting and protection breeds in the day, making it hard for humans or other dogs to hold or grab by the tail or ears, or bite the ears or tail.
Because the owners do it.....
Cutting the tail just makes the dog slower and less agile. Keep the tail it's there for speed and agility.
In a Doberman tail docking and ear cropping are corrections from breeding. All dogs in nature have Erect ears, with the crop you can read the dogs intentions much better.
A Doberman has a high set, thin, wispy tail that is prone to breaking, that's the reason for the tail docking
Well in Swiss also Germany it is baned
I cropped my Cane Corsos and have zero regrets…except when it rains.
My Dobby was a awesome dog 🐕, cropping doesn't bother them,
Ear Cropping is EVIL and painful - I wish they would ban it everywhere.
Well then cutting of sheep tails is worse. No anesthesia at all...
Ya cropping is so mean 😪
Pause….🤣😂 laughs to bad peta get over it 🤣😂
@@christinah1379 And your point is? Yes, both practices should be banned, as should circumcision for any nonmedical reason under 18, including religious genital mutilation rituals! Cutting of animals and babies must stop!
What about all the people who tried to leave them down but had to treat constant ear infections? Ear infections are super painful.
It is legal here in the UK 🇬🇧..
But only if the dog is being used as a working dog.
And it’s legal for the dog owner to have the tail cut off at the second joint at the appropriate age usually when the dog is about 1 month or older
The ears however they have to be done by a licensed vet professional. Again this procedure is only for working dogs.
:PROTECTION
:SECURITY
:GUARD DOGS
:ATTACK TRAINED
:MILITARY PURPOSE
:POLICE K9 UNIT.
and so on..
The controversy around this procedure has been taken way long to inform the public about the facts and it.
Ear cropping and tail removal is for a few reasons. But people who have already made up their minds about it are unwilling to listen to the experts who have the dogs best interests.
It’s done to stop the dog from being compromised by their tail being grabbed. The ear cropping is to allow the dog to have complete listening ability. And it can also appear aestheticly intimidating.
The tail will not be seen to be wagging. Because people who don’t understand k9 body language could take that behaviour of the dog wrong.
For example if the dog is wagging its tail. That dose NOT mean that the dog is in a playful mood. Many reasons for this procedure include the tail could be trapped
Leave them doggos alone
Those ears are not cropped , they are taped when a puppy an the blood holds the ears up when alerted
Selfish, disgusting and cruel . There's no need.
It prevents ear infections
no it doesnt. thats a myth@@roniak2059
Same with people that alter their and their child’s bodies. Piercings, tattoos, cosmetic surgery, circumcision… Also, fixing a dog is also more invasive and taking the reproductive rights away from the dog. Just owning an animal is evil, as they all should be wild. Do you see how where I’m going with this? That’s how you come off.
I will say
The sound is from a channel called WATOP
This video didn't give an credit to the channel
No just no
We do enough damage to dogs by breeding them to excess and showing with ridiculous extremes. Cropping and docking is going too far for “beauty” standards.
Illegal here in Australia too.
Cropping was originally made not just as cosmetics. Origin declares this is used to avoid their floppy ears from being ripped of when in a fight with other dogs or humans. Same purpose why they have their tails cut off. They are originally made to be guard dogs. And erected ears also strike fear to others at it looks intimidating.
No
@@bubblelady8528 lmfao invent a story then
@@LiveLayf No
So, originally cut your ears and bone tail. You will be guarding man...
@@Ah-us8be Listen kid, if you look around you, you can see not all are rich. Right? I don't know which side of the bed you woke up today and decided what they should be. But back then long before you were born they were already used as protection. Not just for people but for livestock as well. So idc what you think. Not all are rich and this is the best they can afford. Specially farmers. The fact you said what you said above all common sense, makes me think this is good because it seems dogs are smarter than you.
The original Dobermann, bred by Karl Dobermann, actually had upright ears, naturally. Over time they have become 'floppy', which is normal. To rectify this with surgery, at a young age, is just ridiculous, pointless and stupid. My Dobermann has floppy ears - no health issues, no ear problems, he can hear just fine. Don't find excuses for mauling your dog. And stop mauling your dog. There's a good reason it's been banned in some countries. Just because it isn't banned in yours (yet), does not make it an ethical choice. Behave and stop cutting your dog.
Poland Banned IT too. I talk about cuting ears and tails
Because that is the breads earmar
I’ve always wondered this , good explanation .
Its all because of our sick ego
My Dobermans are cropped. They certainly express their emotions by moving their ears and tails. They have had zero ear infections and no health issues as a result. People should actually do a little research on the breed's history instead of letting their feelings do their thinking for them. Politicians should stay out of people's business.
Mine as well all three of my Dobermans ears our cropped, and their tails are docked it was done safely so no problem.
It was so there is nothing to grab onto..you cannot catch a Doberman in action..tight muscular skin..short hair..thats why
Having their ears and tails cropped makes them look more attentive and attractive an ancient practice going all the way back to Egyptian times.
Im not for or against cropping but a dog with cropped ears can still show feelings with their ears i mean its just like a german shepherd or a husky
This ears are not cutted...🤯
The ears are only fixed when they are young, until they become stiff...
Cutted ears looks totally different ☝🏽
Disgusting practice ...any owner that thinks it's ok to pump a puppy full of ketamine to chops it's ears off (solely for asrhetics) should feel ashamed of themselves.
Actually it's the guy who established the breed - Doberman himself who did this so that their hearing would be sharpened. No need nowadays, especially not for a pet. Though I can understand cropping the ears of a police dog for instance.
Some dogs just flat out look better with cropped ears then without. The Doberman is definitely one of them. So does a Canis Panther which has Doberman in it!!!
My dog is a mongrel and he has one ear up and the other is bent to the side. Thats the best of both worlds