Drakes in the early models. Partridges 68-72. Can date on the pots (number dash number, month and year) or mustard caps in the circuit. I can see A0 which is first quarter 1970. It is not obviously pre-supergroup: a lot of supergroup era amps don’t say that on them as such!
Laney was founded by Lyndon Laney, in Birmingham and he used to knock around with Robert Plant, John Bonham, Jeff Lynne, Roy Wood and the like - all the Brummy crowd. The initials ML would seem to indicate somebody else built the amp. Possibly a family member as it was a home-grown business.
Thank you for this video!! Very informative. I have a 1970 Laney Sounds 60w head that has a similar story. I got it given in 98 at a gig, the singer in the band was given it and it had been under a floor for 25 years. It had the old round pin plug on so I couldn't try it at the gig. I took it home and changed the plug. I turned it on and played for a couple of minutes tweaking it and then it went Pfft..at the time I was using channel switching amps and this was just some old dud so I put it in my loft for another 23 years!! Then I decided to get it fixed. I can't tell you how good it sounds. It's all original with Partridge transformers and the fault was a corroded aluminium output selector. Having been stored for 48 years of its life it is in mint condition. I absolutely love the sound of it and I use it every single day. Digging around the web I found that Tony had problems with loose valve holders when playing loud! C:\Users\walki\Pictures\guitars\Laney front.jpg C:\Users\walki\Pictures\guitars\Laney rear.jpg C:\Users\walki\Pictures\guitars\Laney valves and transformers.jpg C:\Users\walki\Pictures\Laney internals.jpg I hope theses pics may be of some help to you or others.
Awesome video! Being a huge Black Sabbath fan, I love these old Laneys. Sadly they are very rare to see here in the States. I've been looking just building my own based off of a 60w Supergroup instead of hunting down an original one. Biggest challenge so far is finding a good reproduction of those Partridge transformers.
You need to find originals, it's where the magic lies and of course the crazy high plate/screen voltages. (We're talking about 600-700V) I use JJ KT77 tubes in my 100W Supergroup, they can withstand those voltages.
COOL. Really enjoying your videos, great to see really high quality UK made guitar amps being made and resurrected! Have you ever attempted any Dumble style amps or Dumble mods like the Ultraphonix?
Hi there. Just started watching your channel and really enjoying it. I’m a kit builder and trying to learn more about how amps work. Re your oscilloscope , do you use an isolation transformer ? I have watched quite a few videos on RUclips and I see lots of conflicting advice on that. Would love to hear your opinion. Many thanks
Sorry, a little out of context, one of your earlier videos included a piece regarding quality hand tools. May I additionally suggest Lindstrom and facom. Both great makes, huge ranges not cheap.
Drakes in the early models. Partridges 68-72. Can date on the pots (number dash number, month and year) or mustard caps in the circuit. I can see A0 which is first quarter 1970. It is not obviously pre-supergroup: a lot of supergroup era amps don’t say that on them as such!
Laney was founded by Lyndon Laney, in Birmingham and he used to knock around with Robert Plant, John Bonham, Jeff Lynne, Roy Wood and the like - all the Brummy crowd. The initials ML would seem to indicate somebody else built the amp. Possibly a family member as it was a home-grown business.
It’s now on sale on reverb
Thought it might end up there…a killer amp for someone!
Thank you for this video!! Very informative.
I have a 1970 Laney Sounds 60w head that has a similar story. I got it given in 98 at a gig, the singer in the band was given it and it had been under a floor for 25 years. It had the old round pin plug on so I couldn't try it at the gig. I took it home and changed the plug. I turned it on and played for a couple of minutes tweaking it and then it went Pfft..at the time I was using channel switching amps and this was just some old dud so I put it in my loft for another 23 years!! Then I decided to get it fixed. I can't tell you how good it sounds. It's all original with Partridge transformers and the fault was a corroded aluminium output selector. Having been stored for 48 years of its life it is in mint condition. I absolutely love the sound of it and I use it every single day. Digging around the web I found that Tony had problems with loose valve holders when playing loud! C:\Users\walki\Pictures\guitars\Laney front.jpg C:\Users\walki\Pictures\guitars\Laney rear.jpg C:\Users\walki\Pictures\guitars\Laney valves and transformers.jpg C:\Users\walki\Pictures\Laney internals.jpg I hope theses pics may be of some help to you or others.
Awesome video! Being a huge Black Sabbath fan, I love these old Laneys. Sadly they are very rare to see here in the States. I've been looking just building my own based off of a 60w Supergroup instead of hunting down an original one. Biggest challenge so far is finding a good reproduction of those Partridge transformers.
You need to find originals, it's where the magic lies and of course the crazy high plate/screen voltages. (We're talking about 600-700V)
I use JJ KT77 tubes in my 100W Supergroup, they can withstand those voltages.
Great video, thanks a lot. I learn from it! 👏👏👏
love the old Laneys, so cool
COOL. Really enjoying your videos, great to see really high quality UK made guitar amps being made and resurrected!
Have you ever attempted any Dumble style amps or Dumble mods like the Ultraphonix?
Very nice amp and video. Thanks for sharing!
I would agree 1968. It's very similar to my Session 50 topmount same year.
It's either very-late '68 or early-'69. I couldn't narrow it down further.
OLO Laney had Cool Knobs! 68? Same Year As My 1987 Great !!
Good work, but I wouldn't trust those plastic moulded caps, probably paper and foil.
Hi there. Just started watching your channel and really enjoying it. I’m a kit builder and trying to learn more about how amps work. Re your oscilloscope , do you use an isolation transformer ? I have watched quite a few videos on RUclips and I see lots of conflicting advice on that. Would love to hear your opinion. Many thanks
only if I'm working on a transformerless chassis, such as an old radio
Super super cool amp 😎
How do you handle the high voltage on g2. I belive its way higher then what new production EL34 can handle.
not all new production, no, but some. You've just got to be sensible with your chosen operating point.
Sorry, a little out of context, one of your earlier videos included a piece regarding quality hand tools. May I additionally suggest Lindstrom and facom. Both great makes, huge ranges not cheap.
Great suggestion!
nice
Laney, Marshall, Sound City, Echolette, Dynacord and so on, all of them are more or less copies of one and only genius Lio Fender’s Bassman.
But Fender originally used a schematic from either a radio or gramophone, cannot recall, find out yourself. All the best