2012 BMW 328i F30 Long-Term Review | Is it still a Good Car in 2024?

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  • Опубликовано: 16 янв 2025

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  • @wilternbackstage
    @wilternbackstage 2 года назад +99

    2016 LCI 328i msport here, 70k miles, has been dead reliable. Zero problems

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +12

      That's amazing to hear! You must have taken really good care of it 👌🏼

    • @wilternbackstage
      @wilternbackstage 2 года назад +12

      @@AJDrives just stayed on top of maintenance is all and didn’t drive it hard all the time. Good idea to not wait for things to break before replacement. Always 91 top tier gas, oil changes roughly every 7k miles. Been running jb+, mild tune, since the first week I got it.

    • @elijahcurtis4659
      @elijahcurtis4659 2 года назад

      😅 just bought a 2016 328i xdrive with 53k on it. Hoping she last me till 80k with out any major issues.

    • @wilternbackstage
      @wilternbackstage 2 года назад

      @@elijahcurtis4659 if the car doesnt go 25k more miles for you, thatd be ridiculous

    • @mrmusic1880
      @mrmusic1880 Год назад +4

      328i was only produced until 2015 not 2016

  • @scubasausage
    @scubasausage Год назад +24

    I have a 2013 one of these with 120k on it and I’ve never replaced anything except brake pads and tires. Even my battery is now 10 years old and still tests ok.

    • @anwaralawy41
      @anwaralawy41 Год назад

      What about the timing chain?

    • @scubasausage
      @scubasausage Год назад +2

      ​@@anwaralawy41 I asked this when I took it to the BMW dealership for a health check earlier this year, they told me the model I had was not affected and then the man played me a video of what one of these engines sounds like when the timing chain needs replacing so I know and it didnt sound anything like mine.

    • @tuzkgozarian
      @tuzkgozarian Год назад +3

      2010 328 I here. Never given me a problem once. Only general maintenance and still the same battery 😊

    • @Audriakas
      @Audriakas Год назад

      @@scubasausage could you link the video name?
      i'm trying to find a 328 for myself, that would be a great help

    • @scubasausage
      @scubasausage Год назад

      @@AudriakasIt was just something the engineer had on his phone. It wasnt on youtube. But you can take a BMW in for a health check at a dealership, it doesnt cost much if not free. They will make a video and send it to you of the recommendations and condition of the vehicle. You can also test the play in the chain yourself.
      Although personally I would avoid listening to them on brakes and tires and trivial things like that. They will charge you an arm and a leg for work and theres nothing unique about what they do. In fact im not a fan of the Bridgestone tires they recommend. I prefer the cheaper continentals from Les Schwab.

  • @Youngtruckerdee
    @Youngtruckerdee 2 года назад +60

    Not gonna lie upgrading you boost pipe, chargepipe, and turbo inlet pipe should be mandatory. Wouldn’t even think about it as problems or maintenance but just prep for tune honestly

  • @census3370
    @census3370 10 месяцев назад +10

    I have a 2015 328i that I’m currently using because my 2017 430i is leaking coolant. The 328i was my late fathers, I blew the transmission on it, my sister has involved the car in multiple accidents. I want to restore the car to its original potential so it can be used by my mom or myself. Looking at videos so I can get ideas.

  • @jpm5324
    @jpm5324 2 года назад +18

    I bought a 2016 F31 330d, 50k km in and very happy with it, absolutely no problems. I hope it stays that way!

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +3

      That's great! These cars are quite reliable if you take care of them honestly

  • @1slow_f10
    @1slow_f10 Год назад +16

    I had a 2012 bmw 528i with the n20 had it for over a year it was my daily and got 195k miles out of it(bought the car with 70k miles on it) with a bm3 stage 1 93 tune on it for 50k miles it was hella reliable and had great gas mileage I never had any issues I did oil changes every 3k miles and did maintenance regularly I ended up blowing the head gasket by running high boost on the motor with the tune (27 psi) all in all great car and I’m pretty sure the 328i is the same way

  • @victorlsx8715
    @victorlsx8715 2 года назад +19

    Good video but my 328i has never had a problem and I had it for 2 years they are still a reliable car

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +1

      That's great to hear! With proper Maintenance, They're great cars to own

    • @sngrytr1
      @sngrytr1 2 года назад +1

      Wow. From what I’ve heard, you are truly blessed

  • @rizkybusiness
    @rizkybusiness 2 года назад +26

    Wow man, that is a lot of problems. I have a 2013 328i & tuned with BM3 has not missed a beat even with the tune for 2 years. Nice car btw

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +7

      Definitely depends on how you maintain the car, the person who had this car before me obviously didn't do a great job.

    • @mint_au
      @mint_au 2 года назад +1

      @@AJDrives is this the problem with bmws second hand depends if the previous owner did the maintenance, i feel they get a bad wrap as they can be incredible with correct maintenance but if something breaks atleast here in australia where there is less quantity of them parts are super expensive compared to if you were in europe or america where theres like 50x more of them

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      @@mint_au Well Said!

    • @settounite
      @settounite 8 месяцев назад

      Hows it holding up today? Did u went stage 2 ?

  • @GEEM1001
    @GEEM1001 7 месяцев назад +4

    Great video. Thanks. I made up my mind after you said I had this car for 4 months and had problems with it.

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  7 месяцев назад

      No worries, I'm the end the engine blew up January 2024 and it's been in the workshop until now getting rebuilt. The episode is out, you can checkout my latest video 👌🏼

    • @piemasta93
      @piemasta93 22 часа назад

      you should look at more videos. this is extreamly uncommon with this engine. i picked this bmw specifically because of the reliablity. had mine for a few years now drove about 52k miles now sitting at 108k miles and i drive the piss out of it and have never had a problem.

  • @piemasta93
    @piemasta93 22 часа назад

    2013 328i 108k miles. 100% reliable. not a single problem. had it since 2021 at 60k miles

  • @328idemon
    @328idemon 5 месяцев назад +1

    2014 328i luxury edition 124k miles with a tune. No problems at all

  • @tuzkgozarian
    @tuzkgozarian Год назад +7

    2010 328i xdrive. Easily the best car I’ve ever owned

  • @letzUploadit
    @letzUploadit 2 года назад +2

    very good review

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +2

      Lots of credit to the guy who shot & edited it 🤘🏼

  • @kuangshingliau6
    @kuangshingliau6 2 года назад +10

    My foreman said no. Generally, the European will buy a new BMW 3 series and use them for 5 years only. That's the reason why many spare part including the engine part are made of hard plastic. With a such powerful turbo engine, the hard plastic part will be spoiled easily. In my opinion, this is not worth as you pay so much of money for hard plastic.

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +3

      That's true! And Generally people don't really take the best care of the cars during the warranty period anyways, just doing the bare minimum.
      If they're well maintained and taken care of, done proper preventative maintenance & upgrades, They'll last a much longer time!

    • @thereallotharmatthae
      @thereallotharmatthae 10 дней назад

      German / Scottish 2015 BMW F31 335d here. 166k and no problems whatsoever!

  • @caseycastaway7850
    @caseycastaway7850 8 месяцев назад +2

    My 2012 328i coupe has the fuel pump issue now, and dies randomly. Gonna have to take it in and get it serviced...

  • @gustavocobra77
    @gustavocobra77 4 месяца назад +1

    2012 328i never stopped just regular maintenance belts and gaskets

    • @rogerbravo5724
      @rogerbravo5724 2 месяца назад

      I’m about to get the same year and model any cons??

    • @gustavocobra77
      @gustavocobra77 2 месяца назад

      @rogerbravo5724 its a great car, but maintenance is expensive, valve cover and oil pan are plastic 5k to replace them mine cracked at 100k, i replaced it myself 10 hours labor with chinese aluminum parts so far so good (3 month ago). Timing chain tensioner must be tied or chance of catastrophic failure, but BMW dealer to it for free. First visit to dealer is life, all others are avoidable. One of the best cars you can get if you able to keep engine light off. good luck

    • @rogerbravo5724
      @rogerbravo5724 2 месяца назад

      @@gustavocobra77 fawkk do you have insta gram?? If so lmkk

  • @kristophermcauley4555
    @kristophermcauley4555 4 месяца назад +1

    I have a F30 stage 3 got the car for 8k and spent 2k in mods. Car now has 70k miles and running good

    • @jayahen5719
      @jayahen5719 3 месяца назад

      How much is the market price for this kind of car?

    • @kristophermcauley4555
      @kristophermcauley4555 3 месяца назад

      @@jayahen5719 about 8k for a nice one 3500 for a good one

  • @gpsacme
    @gpsacme Год назад +3

    If a car brand boasting luxury performance and lavishness gets issues with broken hoses, bad turbos, weak seals, then it's not built right, plastic parts in a warm environment under the hood, The brand in that sense is making profit because people just simply buy it for the name, logo, style and cult. That brand is hardly concerned about making a reliable machine. They know people's emotions very well

  • @IamHerbers
    @IamHerbers 8 дней назад

    Which rims are you using?

  • @russ3L18
    @russ3L18 2 года назад +15

    If one is looking to get a F30, would suggest getting the B48 engines 330i LCI instead of N20 engines 328i

    • @mohddanial2619
      @mohddanial2619 2 года назад +1

      is it much different? heard the n20 is reliable which kind of opposing with aj's story

    • @bryanjudefernandez2195
      @bryanjudefernandez2195 2 года назад +2

      @@mohddanial2619 we used to have an n20 in our 520i. was a good engine but i attest to whatever aj said

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +2

      I'd suggest the B48. But honestly, there's still yet to be a 10 year old poorly maintained B48 on the roads so I can't really tell 😅

    • @bryanjudefernandez2195
      @bryanjudefernandez2195 2 года назад +3

      @@AJDrives true however the b48 is truning 7 years old and seems to be holding a good reputation. ps i have a 118i f20 using b38, im going to tune it to 300nm next week

    • @funnyah7801
      @funnyah7801 2 года назад

      @@mohddanial2619 N20 has timing chain issues. Many just snap after 100k km. Theres many more issues as well. I just changed my timing chain set for around rm2.5k a few weeks back for preventive maintenance. The B48 solves many notable issues that the N20 has. But if you know how to maintain your car and know what u need to change. Then go ahead provided you have deeper pockets hehe.

  • @onetakebiker8941
    @onetakebiker8941 2 года назад +3

    You bought it because you liked it. Series 5 too. Another story YT. We have to be honest!
    Keep going 💪🏻

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +2

      You couldn't have said it better! Thanks for the support 💪🏼

  • @cbcastillo5681
    @cbcastillo5681 2 года назад +2

    I have a 2018 330i m sport 46k miles intake upgraded charge pipe and down pipe super sport lowering springs and stage 2 tune. Love it!

  • @cobraten91
    @cobraten91 Год назад +2

    Maintenance first before mods

  • @Areku06
    @Areku06 2 года назад +12

    I have to agree f30 is best looking 3er. Great content.

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      It really is! Thanks.

  • @sudeshaanmurugan1064
    @sudeshaanmurugan1064 7 месяцев назад +1

    bro 328 i is actually in my mind for long time. please tell me how much did you spent from a to z for the repairing cost you have done to this car. what was the mileage when you bought this car. your info will be very helpful to me , thank you.

  • @Vourn-75
    @Vourn-75 8 месяцев назад +1

    Oh my.... I plan to buy this type F30... May it be 316i to the 330E but watching this video makes me wondering is it worth it? Problem with the engine is a nightmare because it's not cheap... Looks like I need to find other options

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  8 месяцев назад

      Checkout my Brand New Used Car Playlist 😅 It's full of surprises 🤣
      however, if you decide to buy F30, go for the Facelift models, Those that come with the B series engines. They are so much more reliable than the Pre-LCI models

  • @thereallotharmatthae
    @thereallotharmatthae 10 дней назад +1

    2015 335d F31 with 166k miles. Zero problems. Can’t see how these should be unreliable if well maintained.
    Oil changes only if car asks for it.

  • @ThatLennyBoi
    @ThatLennyBoi Год назад +1

    Paint is rough? There a solution for that called Polishing...

  • @thebestever333
    @thebestever333 Месяц назад

    I heard this come with both 4 cylinder and a 6

  • @aliothman2022
    @aliothman2022 Год назад +1

    how much did you buy the car and how much did you edit it

  • @hafizmokhtar3428
    @hafizmokhtar3428 Год назад +1

    what tyre and rim you used?

  • @ianTufff
    @ianTufff 2 года назад +3

    should i save up and buy this car? I’m in college right now and I have a 1998 Honda accord I graduate in 2026 and I just wanted something newer before life actually hits me in my face

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      I think if you're going for this Car, make sure you're getting into a well maintained, with good service history car. And make sure to save up some money on the side for any potential repairs and also preventative maintenances!
      If you do that, you're gonna have a great time driving the car.

    • @SycaShow
      @SycaShow Год назад +1

      Yes , code it, with muffler and 1 resonator delete and you set

  • @timothytan5983
    @timothytan5983 2 года назад +3

    Can you share the journey of how much you’ve spend on the car?

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +1

      Yes! I'll probably make a video on that to share it extensively, but i guess it's somewhere around $4000

  • @ashen1425
    @ashen1425 Год назад +1

    Is a 2016 328i n20 with 60k miles reliable?

    • @ZayFlxx
      @ZayFlxx Год назад

      2015-2016 models have some of the engines issues resolved. Even then, if maintenance from the previous owners were up to date, you shouldn’t encounter nothing crazy

  • @TravisDeSouza
    @TravisDeSouza 2 года назад +4

    hello may I know which workshop in KL can help me change my steering rack?

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +1

      Checkout Z Auto Service 👌🏼

  • @qw-
    @qw- 6 месяцев назад

    Do you know that E9x chassis have EPS in EU? And it's a really good one! You think the F series is a step down because you've only tried the stereotyped kind of bmw sold overseas

  • @FAKEMD
    @FAKEMD Год назад +1

    i just got a 2013 328i F30 with 155k miles. Can it be reliable until 200k if I don't mod it and do some preventative maintenance?

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  Год назад

      Definitely, I suggest you watch my video on the maintenance items you must take care of and do it properly, the car will be quite reliable if taken care of:
      10 Secret BMW Maintenance TIPS that MAKES YOUR CAR RELIABLE!
      ruclips.net/video/qWx6GM9s6jU/видео.html

  • @FlameZenon
    @FlameZenon 2 года назад +1

    I have 120,000 miles on mine. 0 issues.

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      That's great! You must be taking good care of the car

  • @woneloon
    @woneloon 2 года назад

    Awesome review! Keep it up

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      Thanks, will do!

    • @pa5kboboi329
      @pa5kboboi329 2 года назад

      I picked up my 2013 328i msports today. Metallic grey with red leather seats 😊 Love the drive! Have done a lot of research comparing Benz C class, BMW 3 series and Audi A4 before deciding to go with this car!

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      Congratulations! Hope you have a great time with the Car!

  • @ksg5375
    @ksg5375 2 года назад +1

    Why's the steering wheel not an M Sport steering wheel 🤔
    This steering wheel is usually in Luxury Lines BMW 3 series F30s

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      My Car is a Luxury Line Model

  • @KraitZz
    @KraitZz 2 года назад +3

    Pretty sure both 320 and 328i has the same vanos technology.

    • @ted1558
      @ted1558 2 года назад

      Exactly. That technology is old... !!

  • @yurrr4338
    @yurrr4338 Год назад +1

    F30 prolly the nicest bmw

  • @robertadriansantos
    @robertadriansantos 3 месяца назад

    after changing a dozen of parts due ti failure it becomes reliable

  • @pyrox9944
    @pyrox9944 7 месяцев назад +1

    If you don’t drive like an idiot your car will Not make Problems 👍

  • @ThrottleMY
    @ThrottleMY 2 года назад +3

    love your video bro! would like to see on your take on how to actually look into this car and like what to check and how to all that before buying it. i really love this car hopefully i can afoord it one day

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад +5

      Thanks bro! That's gonna be a great video. Will try & arrange making one soon after I've gathered all the necessary information 🙏🏼

  • @kame3894
    @kame3894 Год назад +1

    I was thinking to buy a f30 instead of f80 (bc the prize is still expensive) thanks for sharing this information tho bc if i watch other country videos abt f30 that could be different story bc u know the weather and stuff is different in MY

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  Год назад +1

      No problem! I do have a whole playlist and many videos explaining everything I've gone through with this car, all the issues, cost, etc... Hope that could help with your decision 👌🏼

    • @kame3894
      @kame3894 Год назад

      @@AJDrives wow thanks bro, appreciate it

  • @infamousnickplays4053
    @infamousnickplays4053 Год назад

    Did you have to change the timing guide ? If so what mileage did you do it at ?

    • @FckyouBoomer
      @FckyouBoomer 6 месяцев назад

      I did it at this year at 60k miles on my 2015 328i. I could have drove it little bit longer but I wanted to be on the safe side.

  • @tqswagga
    @tqswagga 2 года назад

    Omg I’m starting my detail business where did you get that pump sprayer from 🤯🤯

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      There's a lot you can find just by searching online.

  • @dexterk1902
    @dexterk1902 Год назад

    I love the rims what are those ❤

  • @TheWinnerMotivationLifestyle
    @TheWinnerMotivationLifestyle 2 года назад +1

    lovely car 😍

  • @WaviiWun
    @WaviiWun Месяц назад +1

    he bought it so he could get content so everyone should make sure to not do that he has a reason for this

  • @tylerr11
    @tylerr11 Год назад +1

    What wheels are those? Like them and considering looking into them

  • @romesrepublic
    @romesrepublic Год назад +1

    This is a good car if you're going to be on top of the maintenance. Consistently taking it in every 5k miles and able to afford $500-1000+ maintenance fees when ever you have to replace something.
    This is the car i have 2013 328i (Sport Package.) Had it for 7 years. Took it in for maintenance every 5k, oil/filters. Up to 162k i had to replace spark plugs, coils, gas tank, transmission service, and computer. After 162k timing chain/guides, spark plugs, valve cover, tank fuel pump and fuel pump control unit. All in the same month. Set me back about $6k in repairs. Put money aside if you plan on getting one.

  • @robertotitocollazo3831
    @robertotitocollazo3831 11 месяцев назад

    328i is much better because have more 241 hp and the motor is forged simple like that. If you tuned stage 1 330 hp or stage 2 with 350 hp 🚀🚀🚀

  • @markr5035
    @markr5035 Год назад +4

    I'm looking at 2012 with 60k miles for 12k today.

    • @GAMERRADE
      @GAMERRADE 11 месяцев назад

      Did you get it ?

    • @markr5035
      @markr5035 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@GAMERRADE still searching for the right 335i I knew I wouldn't be happy with a 328

  • @AndyMiron
    @AndyMiron Год назад

    Good price 15k euro for 11 yo whip? It will suck the life out of you breaking everything one by one..

  • @zwaarvlees
    @zwaarvlees Год назад

    What collor is it?

  • @pr33tu_
    @pr33tu_ 2 года назад

    Just asking why did you buy a 11 year old bmw? Did you know the previous owners?

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      It's good content in my opinion 😅 I didn't know the previous owners

  • @Labulagi
    @Labulagi 2 года назад +2

    Maybe a honda.. ahahahah! Been dreaming to drive conti cars but you gave me good reason for not to.

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      Gotta be honest 😅

    • @faizadnan9047
      @faizadnan9047 2 года назад +2

      Because of this AJ guy i sold my honda and bought f30 320d haha!

  • @Areku06
    @Areku06 2 года назад

    Why not 2014-15 f30 335i? N55 ewg is very reliable motor, bmw is known for their inline six engines. In USA, f30 335i are cheap, great value compared to 340i, about same price as 330i. N55 only issue is oil leaks, valve cover, oil filter housing gasket, the usual bmw stuff but not timing chain issues or turbo.

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      335i's are really hard to find where I live. My first choice was a 335i too but at the time there was only 1 available and it was in horrible condition so I decided not to go for it.

  • @notsus126
    @notsus126 Год назад +1

    So many ads

  • @kaeohironaka
    @kaeohironaka 2 года назад

    So I’m getting an offer to trade dollar for dollar (10k) for this. Current owner just did all hoses and maintenance, however it has 175k miles. Is it worth it while I’m in need for a gas friendly sedan?

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      Has the owner taken care of the the timing chain too?

  • @levonlyons
    @levonlyons 4 месяца назад

    I’m not a o.g and I’m not a auto technician but I want to get a bmw some time in my life and other vehicles the only thing stopping me from achieving the specific car

  • @praba991ify
    @praba991ify Год назад

    70k now

  • @Coolmanvideo
    @Coolmanvideo Год назад +1

    Sell it and buy Japanese car. Solve all your problems

    • @antebabich9957
      @antebabich9957 Год назад

      Well I was driving only Japanese cars for 15 years. Mostly Honda, some Toyota. All of them petrol. All of them I bought used, 80k to 12k km. You are definitely right, you don’t have any issues with them, when are new or old. Three years ago I bought my first BMW, now we have two in family and only thing I can say. Money you spend on them worth it. So fun to drive. Have to say BMW is not reliable as Japanese car, but is not to expensive to have it. I had some minor things to do but generally reliable car. I have F30 320i but intend to buy 328i

  • @TMTXT
    @TMTXT 2 года назад

    Damn, she was Persain

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  2 года назад

      So am I dude 😂

  • @mrudyeupp
    @mrudyeupp 7 месяцев назад

    "or maybe you should buy a honda"

  • @nicojaimemena9584
    @nicojaimemena9584 3 месяца назад

    Nice girlfriend bro

  • @QuangPham-ge6xn
    @QuangPham-ge6xn 11 месяцев назад

    What wrong with your face boi?😂

  • @ManoElMacho
    @ManoElMacho Год назад +1

    All that for a 6 second 0-60 😂 Bmw owners delusional af

  • @richardli5245
    @richardli5245 Год назад

    subbed so your girl can go home

  • @americanking253
    @americanking253 Год назад +1

    Why low resale value. Because expensive problems. You fix one and new stupid problems ready..Toyota and Honda don't have stupid problems...😂

    • @AJDrives
      @AJDrives  Год назад +2

      But they still don't have great resale value 😂

    • @1openborder
      @1openborder 8 месяцев назад

      And they feel like you’re driving a doodoo mobile

  • @Ricardo-eg3wn
    @Ricardo-eg3wn 12 часов назад +1

    Every mod he did is what we all knew and modified anyways - every bmw owner does those mods. any forum. Any channel. We all tell you to do these mods in your garage. What you walk away with after is a 350hp plus 4 cldr. Stage 3 on this car will get you about 400 hp depending on the quality of your modifications to the engine / turbo upgrade and your tune. After tuning. Faster than most stock performance model vehicles of the lot. The tuning path to these has been well written. It’s been forged already. So if you want to learn about tuning cars. I highly advise this car. It will prepare you for owning a b58 or a s58. If you don’t start here. You basically going to be a imbecile bmw owner who doesn’t know how to take care of his car. I’ve driven mine for over 5 years now running stage 2 on 93 with top of the line performance modifications such as evolution raceworks. People who race these vehicles. Fcp euro is also a good source for what to expect. When buying this car today. It is wise to have about $5,000 to modify it for performance: reliability. What you walk away with after is what any m3 driver will tell you. A bulletproof build. With slightly less power than the generations m3 if you go top shelf with your mods and tune. And upgrade the turbo. The fatal flaw if neglected will be the direct injection. Have spare injectors on hand. Around 100k. If you don’t regularly clean your fuel system. But this is every bmw issues. Not specific to a 328i. Personally been on a stage 2 plus build. I enihilate stock b58 ls off the lot. Reliably. After about 5-6 k in performance mods. Still cheaper to run this car upgraded than a comparable stock b58 engine. Also the issue with any modern b58 is you pretty much stuck with the stock performance until you ship your ecu to Germany to have the dme unlocked. If you don’t mind the extra 10,000 added to the sticker price. Buy a lci 340i. Late model. That would be surpassing m3 performance if modified in the same way. (Any b58 made after 2020 tu 1 engines cannot be tuned. Without a aftermarket dme or a unlocked dme.) your going to struggle with a high learning curve trying to tune a bmw Supra or a m340i or a m3 if you don’t start your bmw ownership on a simpler model and much cheaper model to maintain. Recommend new bmw owners start here. Before you fk up on a much more expensive vehicle trying to keep one of these from catching you. It isn’t uncommon when you talk to m3 owners most of them started with this vehicle. As you progress in knowledge and Professionaly in your career. Pull the trigger on a m3 or m2 or m4 when you are ready. Do not start there. Or your bmw ownership will probably be cut short. This is the reality. Because your not experienced enough to own a m car. Or a b58 (Supra) If it is your first bmw. And you probably won’t have it for long. When tuning these vehicles understand that the n55 all have secondary oil coolers. So you can match that with cooling system upgrades. Such as a racking grade front mount intercooler. Racing grade radiator. These are not cheap. But they will give you reliability under the tune. Keeping temperatures cooler than stock. And stay away from the burble setting. Keep it off. A lot of people underestimate this build. As I live right by a bmw dealership it’s funny when I whip brand new m340i owners on their test drives. They don’t know what hit them.