I had an XU-1 in 1970 - 1973. 188 HP at the rear wheels. Twelve Port Head, three 45 mm Webbers, Barry Seaton Dyno tuned Extractors, Bored and Stroked. I had to sell to pay my mortgage. They have learned a lot about Engines in fifty years.
Back around 89 i took my 73 LJ XU-1 out the other side of Northam and opened her out for about ten miles with my foot jammed to the floor. It ran triple CD 175 Strombos and bigger valves with cutouts in the block and a bit of portwork. It wound the speedo off the clock in less than a mile and the tacho was sitting on 6800 the whole time. Had a 3.08 Bango in her so the speed woulldve been around 240. It sat on the road beautifully. In fact under 100 kph it was a bit of a pig to steer on the road. It used to jump around a bit. Above that she would find her wings and fly. To this day she is still the best handling car iv ever driven. They glue themselves to the road like a gocart does and are very very predictable. You can drive them on the throttle around sweepers at 200 clicks and not have a worry in the world. One time in the wet at 80 kph I chucked it sideways in a straight line and drove on full lock for near a mile just by blipping the throttle. I still have her but she is in need of a full resto. Cancer got the better of her. Just before i took it off the road i slipped a hot 253 in her, big cam n head work, four barrel. Itd rev over seven grand, but split the oil pick up pipe and she starved of oil while i was breaking hard. The split was just below the oil level and she rattled for a couple of seconds, lifter rattle, then regained oil pressure. I got hold of a 308 block and gave it the full treatment, Quality brand pistons, rings bearings, rods, fully balanced, lightened flywheel , solid lifter cam that started to pull hard around four three, big, big, big valves and a lot of head work. Only ever ran the same four barrel carby that i ran on the 253 though but it shoulve been fine anyway. Then along came a wife and a child and everything got put on the backburner. I ended up slipping the 308 into a one tonne and it went pretty darn well. Looked nice too, HQ Prem front end, gold 9-14 inch Hotwires on the back with 295s. and 8s on the front with 265s. Was washing machine white and had a shortened polished alli tray on it. It was a diff muncher though, four Salisburys couldnt handle the grunt and each time i put a new one in her id promise myself to take it easier. But the temptation was always too much to overcome. Specially when someone in a GT Falcon rocks up next to ya at the traffic lights and starts blipping their accelerator. I still own that old girl too and she is still getting rebuilt after being off the road for nearly twenty years. Two kids and a couple of horses and a couple of cats n dogs and a dollar hungary Mrs make sure i dont get to spend money on cars any more. The fever never ever dies though and seeing a video of this just increases the temp by a couple of degrees. What a beautifull Torrie you own mate. Im green with jealousy. Anyone who has driven a properly set up for race condition XU-1 (not a GTR). but an XU-1 will know what i mean . Brocky loved his 72 Bathurst Torana and i remember him once saying if they were able to run the 308 in one it would have been THE ULTIMATE Torana of them all. Even the A9X as the LJs were a LOT lighter. According to the VIN plates, mine was an ex SA police car. Tangerine with a brown interior, not black. I later had it redone in black. God i wish i could turn back time. The best days of my life.
Congratulations, mate, that is one incredible LJ. With that much horsepower and that super sweet sound, i can forgive its colour and love it just like it is. Would love to see this on the circuit. I used to drive an LJ with 320 flywheel hp, and that was outstanding. Give me your 400 rwhp odd, and i don't think i would ever get out of the driver's seat. Well done, friend, great video. Toranas were built to fly, and they did somewhat. Yours would be hard to keep on the ground.
@@yarpos That's fine, if the Supercar formula evolves into something more production based , as opposed to the NASCAR like formula they run now. Pretend body panels over a custom built race car. Give me the cars from the Bathurst 12 hour races and the TCM together, the way racing once was. Exciting.
@@yarpos How to save V8 Supercars: Step 1: Bring back Group A. Step 2: Refer to Step 1. Bring back proper production based RACE cars like the R32 GT-R was. Race on Sunday, sell on Monday. 👍
400rw hp is crazy for a NA Holden 6 as a circuit car motor. I suppose though with the billet block you could modify the cam so you could have a huge base circle and set it up as a roller like a LS.
we used to mod the lifter bores and run mopar roller lifters in our red 6 powered cars back then. i still have a custom ground roller cam from my old 234 stroker in the shed, nothing new there, just like u say, billet block gives you more options when machining
Bloody incredible. Gotta love that soothing sound. There was a gent in Oz that claimed to have undisclosed HP but at 8200 rpm doing hill climbs in an FJ/FX body. Sounded like an angry bee
That is awesome ! I also love the Strike me Pink colour on those LJ's. Reminds me of John Taverna's beautiful V8 creation back in the late 80s. R.I.P J.T.
What I don't understand is when designing athis billet block it is not beefed up considerably compared with the iron original which cracked. Some beefing up has been done I know but a lot more could have been done, you can't have a too stiff block.
how far we have come since Brocky raced these in 1972 not sure what horsepower his racecar had but I no it was way less than this motor unbelievable what technology can do for us in 2020 wow
The track he's talking about is 67kms from my town so me and the boys might just have to pop over for a look at this beast , about 20 years ago there was a guy here running a XU1 with a 20b rotary , it sounded like a 6 on steroids and it was the workshop hack !
That's a crazy amount of power for a 202, it must have a sky high compression ratio, I thought it would have to rev higher than 6500 rpm to make that much power 👍
@@PUNCHARD800ftlb Why would he refer to the "inlet side" if it wasn't cross flow? I know what you're saying and I agree, but why would he refer to it like that?
dandel351 : Both the Barra and the Red/Blue/Black 3.3/202's share the same 4.08 inch bore spacing.Once youve tooled up for 186/202, you can scan a 4.0 Barra from the same 6061 Alloy billet.
@@deanstevenson6527 Hey mate. I was kinda half joking about it . But if it's as easy as you say, then they already have a good head start on the "Billet Barra Bullet"
This is better than anything Holden ever made that's for sure. I remember finding Phillips head screws securing the camshaft retainer/thrust plate, fibre camshaft timing & distributor drive gear in my 202 what a sad joke
A lot of money spent on a old 202 I don't see the justification in that. But each to their own and I love to see how passionate he is about the car. Still love taranas.
@@imoovabull6042 Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. When you could go into a Holden dealership & buy a real race car. I remember when We thought the end of the Holden world was coming when they started to put plastic grills in them, how wrong were We.
By character you mean gutless, creaky doors, spends more time on the side of the road, spits cam gears then bends push rods, Bango diffs... yep, you're spot on. 👌
@@Cameron..... Course spline banjo diffs were 1948 Grey motor technology & held up well even to later model V8 power input. The only times I ever saw a Holden on the side of the road was when it's driver was helping a broken down Ford owner put out an electrical fire.
Would cringe to see the mega $s spent on building a final engine after apparently discarding the earlier engines despite having the blocks mega carefully examined and one still apparently being used when the video was made. Very deep pockets!
I had an XU-1 in 1970 - 1973. 188 HP at the rear wheels. Twelve Port Head, three 45 mm Webbers, Barry Seaton Dyno tuned Extractors, Bored and Stroked. I had to sell to pay my mortgage. They have learned a lot about Engines in fifty years.
No one will beat you when the extra power is dialled in to the tracks, well done!
Back around 89 i took my 73 LJ XU-1 out the other side of Northam and opened her out for about ten miles with my foot jammed to the floor. It ran triple CD 175 Strombos and bigger valves with cutouts in the block and a bit of portwork. It wound the speedo off the clock in less than a mile and the tacho was sitting on 6800 the whole time. Had a 3.08 Bango in her so the speed woulldve been around 240. It sat on the road beautifully. In fact under 100 kph it was a bit of a pig to steer on the road. It used to jump around a bit. Above that she would find her wings and fly. To this day she is still the best handling car iv ever driven. They glue themselves to the road like a gocart does and are very very predictable. You can drive them on the throttle around sweepers at 200 clicks and not have a worry in the world. One time in the wet at 80 kph I chucked it sideways in a straight line and drove on full lock for near a mile just by blipping the throttle. I still have her but she is in need of a full resto. Cancer got the better of her. Just before i took it off the road i slipped a hot 253 in her, big cam n head work, four barrel. Itd rev over seven grand, but split the oil pick up pipe and she starved of oil while i was breaking hard. The split was just below the oil level and she rattled for a couple of seconds, lifter rattle, then regained oil pressure. I got hold of a 308 block and gave it the full treatment, Quality brand pistons, rings bearings, rods, fully balanced, lightened flywheel , solid lifter cam that started to pull hard around four three, big, big, big valves and a lot of head work. Only ever ran the same four barrel carby that i ran on the 253 though but it shoulve been fine anyway. Then along came a wife and a child and everything got put on the backburner. I ended up slipping the 308 into a one tonne and it went pretty darn well. Looked nice too, HQ Prem front end, gold 9-14 inch Hotwires on the back with 295s. and 8s on the front with 265s. Was washing machine white and had a shortened polished alli tray on it. It was a diff muncher though, four Salisburys couldnt handle the grunt and each time i put a new one in her id promise myself to take it easier. But the temptation was always too much to overcome. Specially when someone in a GT Falcon rocks up next to ya at the traffic lights and starts blipping their accelerator. I still own that old girl too and she is still getting rebuilt after being off the road for nearly twenty years. Two kids and a couple of horses and a couple of cats n dogs and a dollar hungary Mrs make sure i dont get to spend money on cars any more. The fever never ever dies though and seeing a video of this just increases the temp by a couple of degrees. What a beautifull Torrie you own mate. Im green with jealousy. Anyone who has driven a properly set up for race condition XU-1 (not a GTR). but an XU-1 will know what i mean . Brocky loved his 72 Bathurst Torana and i remember him once saying if they were able to run the 308 in one it would have been THE ULTIMATE Torana of them all. Even the A9X as the LJs were a LOT lighter. According to the VIN plates, mine was an ex SA police car. Tangerine with a brown interior, not black. I later had it redone in black. God i wish i could turn back time. The best days of my life.
There's is something cool about pink cars. Nice set up.
Congratulations, mate, that is one incredible LJ. With that much horsepower and that super sweet sound, i can forgive its colour and love it just like it is. Would love to see this on the circuit. I used to drive an LJ with 320 flywheel hp, and that was outstanding. Give me your 400 rwhp odd, and i don't think i would ever get out of the driver's seat. Well done, friend, great video. Toranas were built to fly, and they did somewhat. Yours would be hard to keep on the ground.
My first car, 69 lc 2 door
What a pleasure to see such a build, rack and pinion steering and 400hp
Heaven on wheels
400 at the rear wheels !! wow
check out NA202. great vids of almost same thing 9 sec na torana
What an epic car...love the variety of Muscle Car Masters, won’t miss the V8 Supercars.
without a Supercar flagship or something similar you wont get to see as many TCM races
@@yarpos That's fine, if the Supercar formula evolves into something more production based , as opposed to the NASCAR like formula they run now. Pretend body panels over a custom built race car. Give me the cars from the Bathurst 12 hour races and the TCM together, the way racing once was. Exciting.
ChrisHallett83 100% agree.
@@yarpos How to save V8 Supercars:
Step 1: Bring back Group A.
Step 2: Refer to Step 1.
Bring back proper production based RACE cars like the R32 GT-R was. Race on Sunday, sell on Monday. 👍
It's muscle car masters, TCM is different category, similar idea
That there is the definition of commitment
So great to see.
Little cars with in line six motors seem to create a bond with it's owners.
Innovative lot those Kiwis...this is magic stuff and great use of scanning technology
I’m an old school USA muscle car (60’s) petrol head and I loved this video. That block is gorgeous and the motor sounds amazing! Cheers!
400rw hp is crazy for a NA Holden 6 as a circuit car motor. I suppose though with the billet block you could modify the cam so you could have a huge base circle and set it up as a roller like a LS.
we used to mod the lifter bores and run mopar roller lifters in our red 6 powered cars back then. i still have a custom ground roller cam from my old 234 stroker in the shed, nothing new there, just like u say, billet block gives you more options when machining
Bloody incredible. Gotta love that soothing sound. There was a gent in Oz that claimed to have undisclosed HP but at 8200 rpm doing hill climbs in an FJ/FX body. Sounded like an angry bee
Good one mate. I’ve owned two torana’s here in Auckland. You are lucky
Who are the peanuts who disliked this video? What’s wrong with people, that is an exquisite work of art!
Ford wanka bro HR 208 stroker sweet ,
Barra knobs...
That phone ringing really bloody annoying.
Hope we get to see it back in Oz one day. Thank you.
That’s insane! Ive never seen an N/A 202 make anywhere near that kind of power
That is awesome !
I also love the Strike me Pink colour on those LJ's. Reminds me of John Taverna's beautiful V8 creation back in the late 80s. R.I.P J.T.
was in the 90's
This is really only possible with CNC equipment & CAD. Beautiful work.
What a beautiful thing! Smart, passionate blokes doing awesome stuff. Thanks for sharing.
I could listen to that all day!!
That sounds incredible , great job
Holy shit! Near on 400hp! That's a monster
What I don't understand is when designing athis billet block it is not beefed up considerably compared with the iron original which cracked. Some beefing up has been done I know but a lot more could have been done, you can't have a too stiff block.
400hp 202! Unreal!
That would be such a fun car to drive
Now THAT is a " Tough Little Six-Pack " . Snap , Crackle and Pop on overrun . And Great sound .
Go the LJ Trana! First car I did the ton in back in 1978.
how far we have come since Brocky raced these in 1972 not sure what horsepower his racecar had but I no it was way less than this motor unbelievable what technology can do for us in 2020 wow
Got to give it to the Kiwis they are awesome engineers!
Great work nice to see a six port doing the job .
How good does that sound.
Awesome!!!
Awesome build 🏁
What a sweet set up that is. Nice job.
Moffat's Bathurst XY GT 351c was producing up to or around 370 hp.
Thats alot of money for 470hp. Its a masterpiece none the less and sounds awesome🖒 Hope it holds up well
Imagine a billet block Hemi 6...
xKobePlayz i immediately thought that as soon as i read the title of this vid
bernzie001 I know hey, someone needs to make a billet block for one
xKobePlayz if someone made a batch, id sell my house to buy a couple 🤣
bernzie001 Hahaha easily id swap both my nuts for one 😂
Isnt justa6 the turbo Centura a billet block hemi 6 that is a weapon that car if its still around
thats very good for a n/a 6 prob near the national record
What an amazing amount of effort, unreal!
That’s an awesome looking Lj. Engine sounds great!
omgosh listening to that motor is awesome man good old 202
Such a sweet car, I love seeing it race.
The track he's talking about is 67kms from my town so me and the boys might just have to pop over for a look at this beast , about 20 years ago there was a guy here running a XU1 with a 20b rotary , it sounded like a 6 on steroids and it was the workshop hack !
WOW!!! That is so good. I approve of this on so many levels 😍😍😃😃
Best 202 ihave ever seen
Great stuff brings good memories
Fantastic. The beautiful nasty Torana!
Wow, that is pretty impressive engineering.
I'm a Ford Man, but that is a sweet sweet thing, beautiful job, Great Car !!! 👍👍👍
Why limit yourself to one car brand?
That's a crazy amount of power for a 202, it must have a sky high compression ratio, I thought it would have to rev higher than 6500 rpm to make that much power 👍
that is nice. good luck with it, hope it fills your trophy cabinet
Imagine plumbing a turbo onto this beaut!!!
Nice job boys. Car looks a treat and sounds unique.
Nice car, awesome effort with the motor wishing you all the best out on the track 😎😃👍
400hp?! FmL that's pretty tuff, I'd luv to see a similar billet setup with a charger or even snail on it!
True Blue Racing Development. Very Nice!
Sounds awesome and looks freaking great!!
Just imagine if it had a cross flow Duggan cylinder head on it. But 400 at the wheels os bloody impressive. 👍
@ChrisHallett83 in this particular case that cylinder head is not crossflow
@@PUNCHARD800ftlb Why would he refer to the "inlet side" if it wasn't cross flow?
I know what you're saying and I agree, but why would he refer to it like that?
a crossflow cylinder head means exactly that inlet on one side exhaust on the other not on the same side of the engine on inline six
Love it, for the track where you can properly enjoy it and off the street..
Pretty good power figures
Looks good to me but I do not understand how it keeps cool with not water jacket in the block perhaps I am missing something.
How much did the billet block cost ? Materials and CNC cost, I'll bet it was a lot
In 1993 this would have made me soil my teenage pants
What an amazing sound off that 6!
I couldnt believe how a blown Holden 173 held up against 350’s and 351’s…….
Now he just needs to start building billet Barra blocks and then he might as well print his own money.
dandel351 : Both the Barra and the Red/Blue/Black 3.3/202's share the same 4.08 inch bore spacing.Once youve tooled up for 186/202, you can scan a 4.0 Barra from the same 6061 Alloy billet.
@@deanstevenson6527 Hey mate. I was kinda half joking about it . But if it's as easy as you say, then they already have a good head start on the "Billet Barra Bullet"
Love, love love old built L6s. V8s are great but not as much!
PB be proud mate,bloody ripper!!
What an absolute ripper.
245 next please in the hybrid vr2a block. Great stuff
Beautiful car
Love to see it race at Adelaide masters
Very impressive numbers
This is better than anything Holden ever made that's for sure. I remember finding Phillips head screws securing the camshaft retainer/thrust plate, fibre camshaft timing & distributor drive gear in my 202 what a sad joke
Little fire cracker, would be fun to drive.
wow...crazy sh!t !! Well done.
thank you share video as HOLDEN red engine one great motors of time
Running a relatively short stroke of only 88mm and with such large induction I expect this is revving to 8500. Hence the high hp number.
Is that on e85? Never thought id see numbers like that from a 202
A lot of money spent on a old 202 I don't see the justification in that. But each to their own and I love to see how passionate he is about the car. Still love taranas.
Wondered how long it would take someone to do a billet block.😉🙂👍👍
good on ya kiwis
should have painted it red, image the induction noise of the 55s , 400hp in a ljs a beast
It would take a brave man to paint over that beautiful billet block
outstanding Paul!
How do you rate the Sakura oil filters?
two thousand and sux! :P
so good but now a days we have 4cyls making at least that.
wow revs out to the max
The 1970's, when Holden used to build real cars with real character.
real steel
@@imoovabull6042 Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. When you could go into a Holden dealership & buy a real race car. I remember when We thought the end of the Holden world was coming when they started to put plastic grills in them, how wrong were We.
By character you mean gutless, creaky doors, spends more time on the side of the road, spits cam gears then bends push rods, Bango diffs... yep, you're spot on. 👌
@@Cameron..... Course spline banjo diffs were 1948 Grey motor technology & held up well even to later model V8 power input. The only times I ever saw a Holden on the side of the road was when it's driver was helping a broken down Ford owner put out an electrical fire.
@Cameron..... wannabe. Full-time loser. Can't see anyone helping you push ur ford home again. Lmfao..
Sounds like a full on race motor
Choice bro, that'll go alright A
Pretty good for a N/a pushrod engine. It's all from that duggan style head.
With enough money you can make any engine platform go hard
Imagine what those 2 billet blocks cost to make 470ish flywheel horse... ooof. Thats dedication 😂
Chopdasesh RickFPS When a hemi 265 can make 400 on a stock block
Unbelievable ! Looks great how do I get hold of the machine shop im in America $$$$
Would cringe to see the mega $s spent on building a final engine after apparently discarding the earlier engines despite having the blocks mega carefully examined and one still apparently being used when the video was made.
Very deep pockets!
That is one cool engine. What went wrong with the first attempt? It sounded like they might not have even got it running so it must have been bad.
Bloody Brilliant 👍
Oh man I’m going to have a nap after watching this .. phew I’m done
What’s the weight advantage! Must be significant and a bonus in acceleration and handling 👍
They were Arround 900 kg
Hell yes I want two!
Great engineering,, PITY ABOUT THE EXCCENT. but got to love a Kiwi who is still across their side of the DUTCH