I had an XU-1 in 1970 - 1973. 188 HP at the rear wheels. Twelve Port Head, three 45 mm Webbers, Barry Seaton Dyno tuned Extractors, Bored and Stroked. I had to sell to pay my mortgage. They have learned a lot about Engines in fifty years.
Back around 89 i took my 73 LJ XU-1 out the other side of Northam and opened her out for about ten miles with my foot jammed to the floor. It ran triple CD 175 Strombos and bigger valves with cutouts in the block and a bit of portwork. It wound the speedo off the clock in less than a mile and the tacho was sitting on 6800 the whole time. Had a 3.08 Bango in her so the speed woulldve been around 240. It sat on the road beautifully. In fact under 100 kph it was a bit of a pig to steer on the road. It used to jump around a bit. Above that she would find her wings and fly. To this day she is still the best handling car iv ever driven. They glue themselves to the road like a gocart does and are very very predictable. You can drive them on the throttle around sweepers at 200 clicks and not have a worry in the world. One time in the wet at 80 kph I chucked it sideways in a straight line and drove on full lock for near a mile just by blipping the throttle. I still have her but she is in need of a full resto. Cancer got the better of her. Just before i took it off the road i slipped a hot 253 in her, big cam n head work, four barrel. Itd rev over seven grand, but split the oil pick up pipe and she starved of oil while i was breaking hard. The split was just below the oil level and she rattled for a couple of seconds, lifter rattle, then regained oil pressure. I got hold of a 308 block and gave it the full treatment, Quality brand pistons, rings bearings, rods, fully balanced, lightened flywheel , solid lifter cam that started to pull hard around four three, big, big, big valves and a lot of head work. Only ever ran the same four barrel carby that i ran on the 253 though but it shoulve been fine anyway. Then along came a wife and a child and everything got put on the backburner. I ended up slipping the 308 into a one tonne and it went pretty darn well. Looked nice too, HQ Prem front end, gold 9-14 inch Hotwires on the back with 295s. and 8s on the front with 265s. Was washing machine white and had a shortened polished alli tray on it. It was a diff muncher though, four Salisburys couldnt handle the grunt and each time i put a new one in her id promise myself to take it easier. But the temptation was always too much to overcome. Specially when someone in a GT Falcon rocks up next to ya at the traffic lights and starts blipping their accelerator. I still own that old girl too and she is still getting rebuilt after being off the road for nearly twenty years. Two kids and a couple of horses and a couple of cats n dogs and a dollar hungary Mrs make sure i dont get to spend money on cars any more. The fever never ever dies though and seeing a video of this just increases the temp by a couple of degrees. What a beautifull Torrie you own mate. Im green with jealousy. Anyone who has driven a properly set up for race condition XU-1 (not a GTR). but an XU-1 will know what i mean . Brocky loved his 72 Bathurst Torana and i remember him once saying if they were able to run the 308 in one it would have been THE ULTIMATE Torana of them all. Even the A9X as the LJs were a LOT lighter. According to the VIN plates, mine was an ex SA police car. Tangerine with a brown interior, not black. I later had it redone in black. God i wish i could turn back time. The best days of my life.
@@yarpos That's fine, if the Supercar formula evolves into something more production based , as opposed to the NASCAR like formula they run now. Pretend body panels over a custom built race car. Give me the cars from the Bathurst 12 hour races and the TCM together, the way racing once was. Exciting.
@@yarpos How to save V8 Supercars: Step 1: Bring back Group A. Step 2: Refer to Step 1. Bring back proper production based RACE cars like the R32 GT-R was. Race on Sunday, sell on Monday. 👍
Bloody incredible. Gotta love that soothing sound. There was a gent in Oz that claimed to have undisclosed HP but at 8200 rpm doing hill climbs in an FJ/FX body. Sounded like an angry bee
Congratulations, mate, that is one incredible LJ. With that much horsepower and that super sweet sound, i can forgive its colour and love it just like it is. Would love to see this on the circuit. I used to drive an LJ with 320 flywheel hp, and that was outstanding. Give me your 400 rwhp odd, and i don't think i would ever get out of the driver's seat. Well done, friend, great video. Toranas were built to fly, and they did somewhat. Yours would be hard to keep on the ground.
400rw hp is crazy for a NA Holden 6 as a circuit car motor. I suppose though with the billet block you could modify the cam so you could have a huge base circle and set it up as a roller like a LS.
we used to mod the lifter bores and run mopar roller lifters in our red 6 powered cars back then. i still have a custom ground roller cam from my old 234 stroker in the shed, nothing new there, just like u say, billet block gives you more options when machining
That is awesome ! I also love the Strike me Pink colour on those LJ's. Reminds me of John Taverna's beautiful V8 creation back in the late 80s. R.I.P J.T.
What I don't understand is when designing athis billet block it is not beefed up considerably compared with the iron original which cracked. Some beefing up has been done I know but a lot more could have been done, you can't have a too stiff block.
how far we have come since Brocky raced these in 1972 not sure what horsepower his racecar had but I no it was way less than this motor unbelievable what technology can do for us in 2020 wow
I had a LC GTR back in the 1990s , we put a Chev 292 (4.9 L) straight six and Saginaw 4 speed manual in it , put 186 stickers on it . Bolted almost straight in , Qld transport registered it as a 186 , they look almost identical the Chev and Holden six , we used a US Falconer Triple SU intake , it looked like a Holden, but i can tell you 4.9 litres makes a big difference in a Torana !
I bet. There was a guy running around Sydney with a similar set-up but using a Hemi Six instead. It was all painted up like a Holden Six, but the size was a bit of a giveaway
@@STREETMACHINETV I like ! , I got my 292 ci chev six from , Superformance in Brissy back in the day. 90 percent of people thought it was a Holden !! The dizzy spot gave it away, and Chev V8 bellhousing, if you looked close ,
The track he's talking about is 67kms from my town so me and the boys might just have to pop over for a look at this beast , about 20 years ago there was a guy here running a XU1 with a 20b rotary , it sounded like a 6 on steroids and it was the workshop hack !
@@imoovabull6042 Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. When you could go into a Holden dealership & buy a real race car. I remember when We thought the end of the Holden world was coming when they started to put plastic grills in them, how wrong were We.
By character you mean gutless, creaky doors, spends more time on the side of the road, spits cam gears then bends push rods, Bango diffs... yep, you're spot on. 👌
@@Cameron..... Course spline banjo diffs were 1948 Grey motor technology & held up well even to later model V8 power input. The only times I ever saw a Holden on the side of the road was when it's driver was helping a broken down Ford owner put out an electrical fire.
@@PUNCHARD800ftlb Why would he refer to the "inlet side" if it wasn't cross flow? I know what you're saying and I agree, but why would he refer to it like that?
While I certainly do respect the level commitment & engineering put into this engine, what part of it left is Holden? That said, I've always had this idea that if you did do a billet Holden 6 block, while you're at it increase the deck height and get some decent displacement out of it. Say 250 ci!
No one will beat you when the extra power is dialled in to the tracks, well done!
I had an XU-1 in 1970 - 1973. 188 HP at the rear wheels. Twelve Port Head, three 45 mm Webbers, Barry Seaton Dyno tuned Extractors, Bored and Stroked. I had to sell to pay my mortgage. They have learned a lot about Engines in fifty years.
Don't they all have 12 ported heads?
I guess 2 and 3 plus 4 and 5 are normally siamese
Back around 89 i took my 73 LJ XU-1 out the other side of Northam and opened her out for about ten miles with my foot jammed to the floor. It ran triple CD 175 Strombos and bigger valves with cutouts in the block and a bit of portwork. It wound the speedo off the clock in less than a mile and the tacho was sitting on 6800 the whole time. Had a 3.08 Bango in her so the speed woulldve been around 240. It sat on the road beautifully. In fact under 100 kph it was a bit of a pig to steer on the road. It used to jump around a bit. Above that she would find her wings and fly. To this day she is still the best handling car iv ever driven. They glue themselves to the road like a gocart does and are very very predictable. You can drive them on the throttle around sweepers at 200 clicks and not have a worry in the world. One time in the wet at 80 kph I chucked it sideways in a straight line and drove on full lock for near a mile just by blipping the throttle. I still have her but she is in need of a full resto. Cancer got the better of her. Just before i took it off the road i slipped a hot 253 in her, big cam n head work, four barrel. Itd rev over seven grand, but split the oil pick up pipe and she starved of oil while i was breaking hard. The split was just below the oil level and she rattled for a couple of seconds, lifter rattle, then regained oil pressure. I got hold of a 308 block and gave it the full treatment, Quality brand pistons, rings bearings, rods, fully balanced, lightened flywheel , solid lifter cam that started to pull hard around four three, big, big, big valves and a lot of head work. Only ever ran the same four barrel carby that i ran on the 253 though but it shoulve been fine anyway. Then along came a wife and a child and everything got put on the backburner. I ended up slipping the 308 into a one tonne and it went pretty darn well. Looked nice too, HQ Prem front end, gold 9-14 inch Hotwires on the back with 295s. and 8s on the front with 265s. Was washing machine white and had a shortened polished alli tray on it. It was a diff muncher though, four Salisburys couldnt handle the grunt and each time i put a new one in her id promise myself to take it easier. But the temptation was always too much to overcome. Specially when someone in a GT Falcon rocks up next to ya at the traffic lights and starts blipping their accelerator. I still own that old girl too and she is still getting rebuilt after being off the road for nearly twenty years. Two kids and a couple of horses and a couple of cats n dogs and a dollar hungary Mrs make sure i dont get to spend money on cars any more. The fever never ever dies though and seeing a video of this just increases the temp by a couple of degrees. What a beautifull Torrie you own mate. Im green with jealousy. Anyone who has driven a properly set up for race condition XU-1 (not a GTR). but an XU-1 will know what i mean . Brocky loved his 72 Bathurst Torana and i remember him once saying if they were able to run the 308 in one it would have been THE ULTIMATE Torana of them all. Even the A9X as the LJs were a LOT lighter. According to the VIN plates, mine was an ex SA police car. Tangerine with a brown interior, not black. I later had it redone in black. God i wish i could turn back time. The best days of my life.
😊Got bored half way through the essay
I’m an old school USA muscle car (60’s) petrol head and I loved this video. That block is gorgeous and the motor sounds amazing! Cheers!
My first car, 69 lc 2 door
What a pleasure to see such a build, rack and pinion steering and 400hp
Heaven on wheels
What an epic car...love the variety of Muscle Car Masters, won’t miss the V8 Supercars.
without a Supercar flagship or something similar you wont get to see as many TCM races
@@yarpos That's fine, if the Supercar formula evolves into something more production based , as opposed to the NASCAR like formula they run now. Pretend body panels over a custom built race car. Give me the cars from the Bathurst 12 hour races and the TCM together, the way racing once was. Exciting.
ChrisHallett83 100% agree.
@@yarpos How to save V8 Supercars:
Step 1: Bring back Group A.
Step 2: Refer to Step 1.
Bring back proper production based RACE cars like the R32 GT-R was. Race on Sunday, sell on Monday. 👍
It's muscle car masters, TCM is different category, similar idea
Good one mate. I’ve owned two torana’s here in Auckland. You are lucky
400 at the rear wheels !! wow
check out NA202. great vids of almost same thing 9 sec na torana
There's is something cool about pink cars. Nice set up.
Bloody incredible. Gotta love that soothing sound. There was a gent in Oz that claimed to have undisclosed HP but at 8200 rpm doing hill climbs in an FJ/FX body. Sounded like an angry bee
Innovative lot those Kiwis...this is magic stuff and great use of scanning technology
Congratulations, mate, that is one incredible LJ. With that much horsepower and that super sweet sound, i can forgive its colour and love it just like it is. Would love to see this on the circuit. I used to drive an LJ with 320 flywheel hp, and that was outstanding. Give me your 400 rwhp odd, and i don't think i would ever get out of the driver's seat. Well done, friend, great video. Toranas were built to fly, and they did somewhat. Yours would be hard to keep on the ground.
400rw hp is crazy for a NA Holden 6 as a circuit car motor. I suppose though with the billet block you could modify the cam so you could have a huge base circle and set it up as a roller like a LS.
we used to mod the lifter bores and run mopar roller lifters in our red 6 powered cars back then. i still have a custom ground roller cam from my old 234 stroker in the shed, nothing new there, just like u say, billet block gives you more options when machining
So great to see.
Little cars with in line six motors seem to create a bond with it's owners.
What a beautiful thing! Smart, passionate blokes doing awesome stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Who are the peanuts who disliked this video? What’s wrong with people, that is an exquisite work of art!
Ford wanka bro HR 208 stroker sweet ,
Barra knobs...
That phone ringing really bloody annoying.
Really nice work on the block. Well done.
That is awesome !
I also love the Strike me Pink colour on those LJ's. Reminds me of John Taverna's beautiful V8 creation back in the late 80s. R.I.P J.T.
was in the 90's
That sounds incredible , great job
Is that on e85? Never thought id see numbers like that from a 202
That’s insane! Ive never seen an N/A 202 make anywhere near that kind of power
Hope we get to see it back in Oz one day. Thank you.
This is really only possible with CNC equipment & CAD. Beautiful work.
I could listen to that all day!!
Now THAT is a " Tough Little Six-Pack " . Snap , Crackle and Pop on overrun . And Great sound .
Great work nice to see a six port doing the job .
What I don't understand is when designing athis billet block it is not beefed up considerably compared with the iron original which cracked. Some beefing up has been done I know but a lot more could have been done, you can't have a too stiff block.
outstanding Paul!
How do you rate the Sakura oil filters?
How good does that sound.
Awesome!!!
What a sweet set up that is. Nice job.
The very rare 'Holden Silver motor' 😁👍
How much did the billet block cost ? Materials and CNC cost, I'll bet it was a lot
how far we have come since Brocky raced these in 1972 not sure what horsepower his racecar had but I no it was way less than this motor unbelievable what technology can do for us in 2020 wow
Looks good to me but I do not understand how it keeps cool with not water jacket in the block perhaps I am missing something.
That’s an awesome looking Lj. Engine sounds great!
Thats alot of money for 470hp. Its a masterpiece none the less and sounds awesome🖒 Hope it holds up well
Nice job boys. Car looks a treat and sounds unique.
Imagine a billet block Hemi 6...
xKobePlayz i immediately thought that as soon as i read the title of this vid
bernzie001 I know hey, someone needs to make a billet block for one
xKobePlayz if someone made a batch, id sell my house to buy a couple 🤣
bernzie001 Hahaha easily id swap both my nuts for one 😂
Isnt justa6 the turbo Centura a billet block hemi 6 that is a weapon that car if its still around
WOW!!! That is so good. I approve of this on so many levels 😍😍😃😃
What an amazing amount of effort, unreal!
Nice car, awesome effort with the motor wishing you all the best out on the track 😎😃👍
I had a LC GTR back in the 1990s , we put a Chev 292 (4.9 L) straight six and Saginaw 4 speed manual in it , put 186 stickers on it . Bolted almost straight in , Qld transport registered it as a 186 , they look almost identical the Chev and Holden six , we used a US Falconer Triple SU intake , it looked like a Holden, but i can tell you 4.9 litres makes a big difference in a Torana !
I bet. There was a guy running around Sydney with a similar set-up but using a Hemi Six instead. It was all painted up like a Holden Six, but the size was a bit of a giveaway
@@STREETMACHINETV I like ! , I got my 292 ci chev six from , Superformance in Brissy back in the day. 90 percent of people thought it was a Holden !! The dizzy spot gave it away, and Chev V8 bellhousing, if you looked close ,
Is this a wet sleeve motor?
Is there any other waterjacket involved if not how is it cooled and how does the coolant in the head circulate.
I'm a Ford Man, but that is a sweet sweet thing, beautiful job, Great Car !!! 👍👍👍
Why limit yourself to one car brand?
Holy shit! Near on 400hp! That's a monster
That is one cool engine. What went wrong with the first attempt? It sounded like they might not have even got it running so it must have been bad.
That would be such a fun car to drive
Got to give it to the Kiwis they are awesome engineers!
Are they still doing videos haven't seen one since
Who?
Such a sweet car, I love seeing it race.
The track he's talking about is 67kms from my town so me and the boys might just have to pop over for a look at this beast , about 20 years ago there was a guy here running a XU1 with a 20b rotary , it sounded like a 6 on steroids and it was the workshop hack !
Sounds awesome and looks freaking great!!
Awesome build 🏁
omgosh listening to that motor is awesome man good old 202
that is nice. good luck with it, hope it fills your trophy cabinet
What’s the weight advantage! Must be significant and a bonus in acceleration and handling 👍
They were Arround 900 kg
Go the LJ Trana! First car I did the ton in back in 1978.
So where does the line start to get your hands on one of these? Reckon I’d almost be able to shell out for one by the time I got to the front.
thats very good for a n/a 6 prob near the national record
Unbelievable ! Looks great how do I get hold of the machine shop im in America $$$$
How did that next race meet go?
Are these blocks available for public to purchase now? I’d like to build one I have a supercharger I want to run
Fantastic. The beautiful nasty Torana!
True Blue Racing Development. Very Nice!
😮wat would that billet block cost ?
how much does the block cost?
What grade of aluminium do you use for engines?
Usually 6061 T6
@@Ausblack that's what I thought. Thanks
Always been curious as to the amount of machining stress gets absorbed while carving away
Wow, that is pretty impressive engineering.
The 1970's, when Holden used to build real cars with real character.
real steel
@@imoovabull6042 Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. When you could go into a Holden dealership & buy a real race car. I remember when We thought the end of the Holden world was coming when they started to put plastic grills in them, how wrong were We.
By character you mean gutless, creaky doors, spends more time on the side of the road, spits cam gears then bends push rods, Bango diffs... yep, you're spot on. 👌
@@Cameron..... Course spline banjo diffs were 1948 Grey motor technology & held up well even to later model V8 power input. The only times I ever saw a Holden on the side of the road was when it's driver was helping a broken down Ford owner put out an electrical fire.
@Cameron..... wannabe. Full-time loser. Can't see anyone helping you push ur ford home again. Lmfao..
Being a billet block im suprized you didn't increase the capacity more. Is there a class limit?
Moffat's Bathurst XY GT 351c was producing up to or around 370 hp.
Anybody know if he's coming back to Auz in the future, I'd love to have a look at it.
any more videos of this car
Just imagine if it had a cross flow Duggan cylinder head on it. But 400 at the wheels os bloody impressive. 👍
@ChrisHallett83 in this particular case that cylinder head is not crossflow
@@PUNCHARD800ftlb Why would he refer to the "inlet side" if it wasn't cross flow?
I know what you're saying and I agree, but why would he refer to it like that?
a crossflow cylinder head means exactly that inlet on one side exhaust on the other not on the same side of the engine on inline six
I wonder how many RPMs it pulls during a race
First impression, is the man small or the engine HUGE?
Great stuff brings good memories
Any relation to Mad Mike Whiddet?
Love it, for the track where you can properly enjoy it and off the street..
Love, love love old built L6s. V8s are great but not as much!
400hp?! FmL that's pretty tuff, I'd luv to see a similar billet setup with a charger or even snail on it!
How good does it sound on decel?
Where can i place an order?
How much did it cost to get the block built
adam schofield 50 bucks
@@pauledwards9416plus tax.
Where can I get one and how much $
Wondered how long it would take someone to do a billet block.😉🙂👍👍
I couldnt believe how a blown Holden 173 held up against 350’s and 351’s…….
What an amazing sound off that 6!
While I certainly do respect the level commitment & engineering put into this engine, what part of it left is Holden? That said, I've always had this idea that if you did do a billet Holden 6 block, while you're at it increase the deck height and get some decent displacement out of it. Say 250 ci!
Longer stroke engines don't rev as high as shorter stroke engines.
This is how the factory should have done 'em. I wanna know when he's gonna do a grey motor!
Bloody awesome, when he says Phil is he talking about the legendary Phil Irving ?
Nope
trust a kiwi to take something aussie made and make it better lol its the pavlova saga all over again
TOHU KURI take it easy idiot
@@AP-wi7jt calm down champ no need for name calling just stating facts
Fun fact, the Aussies invented the condom made out of sheep intestine, the kiwi's improved on this by taking it out of the sheep first
It definitely wasn't cars lmao they were assembled extremely poorly and when it came to design your own it was the trekka
400hp 202! Unreal!
237 ci
Is that motor similar to a Chevy 250 6?
Smaller in every way
I take it this is a wet liner. Dalton sleeves?
PB be proud mate,bloody ripper!!
so good but now a days we have 4cyls making at least that.
peak RPM?
amazing just think if you did the same thing to a 265 6ycl valiant hemi engine you be in the 600hp
how about some efi weber type throttle bodies....
Why? That's like building a billet steam engine in 2020.
Best 202 ihave ever seen