Thank you so much Mitch. I upgraded my M1 Mac Mini and MacBook Pro to Monterey and running Studio 5 on both with no problems at all. Looks like a smooth OS.
Apple is trying to make a lot of the older macs obsolete, so that they can sell more computers. Writing code so that the OS would only work on the newer macs. If they wanted, they could write code that would work with both new or older macs.
From my experience over the years, Universal Audio (Apollo interface, etc.) usually takes at least 8 weeks to assure compatibility with new OS releases. As much as I want to install the new OS right away, it pays to be patient. Thanks Sweetwater for the excellent advice!
As a UA user I know that Big Sur even need a patch to work properly. UA is unfortunately not one of those who work the hardest to assure compatibility (nor updating existing plugins to modern GUI standards.) Maybe their dev resources are focused on Luna instead. And Apple isn't making it easier either by having a new OS every year.
@@cornerliston So true. I've had a ton of glitching audio (still) in 2022. Between Sonarworks, UAD & Monterey, I haven't been able to sort the issue. (Everything will be fine for hours/days and randomly it will begin to act like the sample rate is mismatched between the OS & Apollo. OR it will act like it's running out of buffer space just to play audio off the system/web to the Apollo. -- We'll see if the latest UAD rev (10.0) solves this. But it's been a nightmare.
The ‘fun’ thing is that about the same time the new OS is out the official support for the PREVIOUS OS is almost just ready from the developers. I actually like when Apple wasn't so keen on releasing new OS so often and I have a feeling most developers liked it too.
@@ohheyitskevinc how is catalina ? im on high sierra and I want to update but idk which one I should update too (i’m a artist who records in garageband)
Best advice: if your music software cost more than a 16” MacBook M1Pro costs, stick with Catalina on an Intel mac... Bear in mind it’s currently the end of November 2021: Arturia only recently support M1 and Big Sur. Native Instruments are only just about ready for Big Sur and M1, (although they still don’t natively support it - it’s still Rosetta and you’ll have issues with isos). What’s a shame is the new Logic that’s compatible with Big Sur + is awesome, as is the M1. I have Komplete 13 ultimate SE, V Collection, Omnisphere, Falcon and vintage vault. I own an M1 Pro with Big Sur, but for music production, it’s so buggy (even a year after Big Sur came out) I’m still on an Intel Mac Mini using Catalina.
Yup still on catalina as of December 2022 Still too many devs not quite there and I don’t care about Mac features other than my DAWs and many, many instruments and plugs the machine is optimized for tracking, mixing and mastering Most popular Mac goodies are deleted are intentionally rendered inoperable
Mid 2022 - Monterey has completely fracked my audio system (Mac Pro (Late 2013)). It claims to be supported. But honestly - Worst decision ever. If I wasn't also working in Logic for composing, I'd have remained on Mohave. EDIT: You also have to be careful about external SSD Drives. - If the drive was created on an OS prior to Monterey, it doesn't have the SSD container wrapper Monterey uses to keep the drive optimized. Therefore, running Disk Utility on the drive will FAIL,. The only way to successfully run Disk Utility on the drive is to plug it into a machine that has Mohave or earlier. (Ultimately the solution would be to copy the data off & then re-initialize the drive on Monterey. Then copy the data back onto the drive. What a Fuster Cluck!).
If you put out a promo video like this, and state "see our Sweetcare," and there is no link or submenu where that can be obviously found, it would be nice to have a link to that provided. I could only find it via a search box. That's just not right!
Using M1 Max 32GB 4TB Monterey MacBook here, ( medium sized projects: around 150 tracks of vsti plugins and kontakt instances ) Cubase 10.5 runs very smoothly, Logic on the other hand is a little buggy. Also all the VST plugins work in cubase but some AU plugins don’t work in Logic. I’m running everything thru Rosetta. Only thing I miss is Virtual Guitarist 2 which is a 32bit plugin and Slate VSX that doesn’t work on Monterey at all. Everything else runs smoothly.
I would advise against updating just yet as the update has rendered my external drive useless. My Gtech Gdrive EV Raw keeps flashing, won't eject, won't let my macbook shutdown if connected, and won't copy files to desktop or delete files. After 15-30 minutes the flashing stops and and the drive functions normally. It is quite a headache having to wait that long to have access to sound libraries on this drive.
You might backup and format as APFS if you haven't already. I updated a few days back and haven't noticed any issues with my external drives yet. I used to sometimes have weird issues like that when I'd use EXFAT formatted drives though. Alternatively: the drive could be failing. You might want to go into Disk Utility and run First Aid on it.
It sounds like it is trying to index your SSD; not too difficult to fix! Open up your "System Preferences", go to "Spotlight", go to the "Privacy" tab, and then add your drive as a location to ignore. You can reboot just to be sure it is working as it should.
Mitch is the goat. Sweetwater is honestly the absolute best place to buy new music gear. If only they could get FedEx to deliver on time with similar quality. 😂
Logic Plugins don't even work on my M1 now. Much less any other plugins. Plus, I can't even Downgrade back to Big Sur. They basically bricked it, with the Upgrade. I really screwed up, by not understanding what was going to happen.
I’m really new to upgrading. I am using Hi Sierra OS X and want to move to Monterey, 2014MacBook air. Does Monterey give new versions of Garageband, iMovie, QuickTime by downloading it, or do I need to upgrade those separately?
It looks like it has crashed my ability to use my Focusrite Saffire Pro 40's. I see on the Focusrite site that they aren't supporting anymore updates. Now I have to fully erase my Mac to bring it back to an older operating system. Beware indeed!
I just updated to the Monetary, I’m currently using the Apollo Twin, Nuemann 103 and m1 mac. Ever since i switch mics and downloaded Auto Key, my computer crashes every 2 minutes! What do i do 😢😢
What is Sweetwater's take on Apple Silicon vs Intel as far as compatibility. I've seen reports from other professionals in the past that the new arch breaks more things than new versions of the OS in certain cases. Since I haven't seen any recent updates on these reports, was just curious if the Apple Silicon vs Intel is still a bigger concern over the version of the OS running.
Hey, Clinton! That's a great question. The Apple Silicon (M1) at this point seems to be generally compatible for most major DAWs and software - although I would still double check with all of the software that you're running to make sure. Both are fantastic, but Silicon is showing to be an extremely efficient chip, and is greatly improving performance in their computers. As for OS, you should always have some hesitancy to update to their new roll-outs. In the audio world, it's always a good rule of thumb to hold off on updating to the newest OS until the audio software companies have worked out their bugs and backed support. I hope this helps! Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
I bought an M1 to replace my 2014 MPB as my Mainstage machine in conjunction with my Nektar P6 keyboard. I've encountered a number of problems with the M1 computer in terms of stuck notes, disappearing sounds and random disconnections between the Macbook and audio/midi devices. Logic is solid but thanks to my Mainstage experiences, I definitely get the feeling that even a year later this hardware is not ready yet.
Meanwhile, Waves SoundGrid is STILL not ready for M1 Mac, nor is DANTE VIA or Virtual Soundcard. It’s pretty disappointing that if you have leapt ahead and embraced audio over Ethernet you can still not use an M1 Mac… seriously Waves and Audinate, get it together!
Does anybody know how long it could take Native Instruments to make Komplete 13/ Native Access compatible with Mac OS Monterey based on previous OS updates? The clerk at Guitar Center told me it’s compatible and I won’t have any issues, which I currently do face. The Native Access updater keeps crashing. If it takes longer than 3 months I think I should return it and buy something else in the mean time. In conclusion, I Should’ve shopped with SweetWater, they actually know what they’re talking about.
Try giving Native Access full disk access in the security settings. That sometimes fixes things. For Monterey, it will be a while until they will say it’s officially supported, but they do fix things by product. So right now Massive works officially, but you’ll get Arkhis, Noire, Piano Colors, etc working fine. A lot of the play series are broken, and I can’t get any expansions to install. They show up as failed in Access and my download folder has a load of failed ISO’s in there.
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In other words, get out your wallets, kids, as you will be paying for new versions of much of your software. And/or you will no longer be using software that is currently working perfectly now. Sheesh.
Information like this is just one of many reasons why Sweetwater is the best destination for musicians. Thanks folks!
Thank you so much Mitch. I upgraded my M1 Mac Mini and MacBook Pro to Monterey and running Studio 5 on both with no problems at all. Looks like a smooth OS.
same here, no probs
I appreciate you all!! Thanks Mitch!!
Apple is trying to make a lot of the older macs obsolete, so that they can sell more computers. Writing code so that the
OS would only work on the newer macs. If they wanted, they could write code that would work with both new or older macs.
From my experience over the years, Universal Audio (Apollo interface, etc.) usually takes at least 8 weeks to assure compatibility with new OS releases. As much as I want to install the new OS right away, it pays to be patient. Thanks Sweetwater for the excellent advice!
As a UA user I know that Big Sur even need a patch to work properly.
UA is unfortunately not one of those who work the hardest to assure compatibility (nor updating existing plugins to modern GUI standards.) Maybe their dev resources are focused on Luna instead. And Apple isn't making it easier either by having a new OS every year.
@@cornerliston So true. I've had a ton of glitching audio (still) in 2022. Between Sonarworks, UAD & Monterey, I haven't been able to sort the issue. (Everything will be fine for hours/days and randomly it will begin to act like the sample rate is mismatched between the OS & Apollo. OR it will act like it's running out of buffer space just to play audio off the system/web to the Apollo. -- We'll see if the latest UAD rev (10.0) solves this. But it's been a nightmare.
The ‘fun’ thing is that about the same time the new OS is out the official support for the PREVIOUS OS is almost just ready from the developers.
I actually like when Apple wasn't so keen on releasing new OS so often and I have a feeling most developers liked it too.
I just upgraded to Big Sur some weeks ago. Shows how long I take before I finally trust updating the O.S.
I haven’t even gone that far
It seems as soon as I get protools stable they release a new os
I haven’t gone that far either. Until Native Instruments natively support Big Sur, I’m hanging out on Catalina :)
@@ohheyitskevinc how is catalina ?
im on high sierra and I want to update but idk which one I should update too (i’m a artist who records in garageband)
Best advice: if your music software cost more than a 16” MacBook M1Pro costs, stick with Catalina on an Intel mac...
Bear in mind it’s currently the end of November 2021:
Arturia only recently support M1 and Big Sur.
Native Instruments are only just about ready for Big Sur and M1, (although they still don’t natively support it - it’s still Rosetta and you’ll have issues with isos).
What’s a shame is the new Logic that’s compatible with Big Sur + is awesome, as is the M1.
I have Komplete 13 ultimate SE, V Collection, Omnisphere, Falcon and vintage vault. I own an M1 Pro with Big Sur, but for music production, it’s so buggy (even a year after Big Sur came out) I’m still on an Intel Mac Mini using Catalina.
Yup still on catalina as of December 2022
Still too many devs not quite there and I don’t care about Mac features other than my DAWs and many, many instruments and plugs the machine is optimized for tracking, mixing and mastering
Most popular Mac goodies are deleted are intentionally rendered inoperable
Thank you Mitch for such an informative and well presented tutorial. And thank you for Sweetwater’s help pages.
How did you get Pro Tools to work on the macOS Monterey and which Pro Tools works with it?
I need this answer too. I need install Sibelius on macOS Monterey.
I'm still on Catalina. Not looking for trouble! :)
The update shut me down. Don’t do it! Pro Tools 2021.10 won’t open.
32 bit apps were unsupported as soon as Mac OS Catalina came out. So obviously they had to update them for 64 bit a while back.
You guys are the best of the best in the music industry. Thank you so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I feel bad for people who don’t play music because they’ll never know how incredible Sweetwater is.
Thanks Mitch
Kontakt and Antares Auto-tune are still not compatible with Monterey. This is insane.
Doesn't work with my Logic Pro. I had to down grade to older version of iOs.
I updated to the new Monterey OS, and now protools won't open old sessions or let me use my plug-ins in a new session. Anyone know how to fix this?
I have the same problem and idk how to fix it.
Still haven’t upgraded to Mohave! 😝
Mid 2022 - Monterey has completely fracked my audio system (Mac Pro (Late 2013)). It claims to be supported. But honestly - Worst decision ever. If I wasn't also working in Logic for composing, I'd have remained on Mohave.
EDIT:
You also have to be careful about external SSD Drives. - If the drive was created on an OS prior to Monterey, it doesn't have the SSD container wrapper Monterey uses to keep the drive optimized. Therefore, running Disk Utility on the drive will FAIL,. The only way to successfully run Disk Utility on the drive is to plug it into a machine that has Mohave or earlier. (Ultimately the solution would be to copy the data off & then re-initialize the drive on Monterey. Then copy the data back onto the drive. What a Fuster Cluck!).
Pro-Tools experts gave a list of all the Pro audio/recording software companies who are compatible and who aren't (Plugins, hardware and such)
Logic Pro X is not working on Monterrey which is asinine considering Apple created Logic Pro X
Their support is the best reason for buying from Sweetwater.
what an amazing company sweetwater is!
I just wish UA would update so it will work without Rosetta on the M1’s.
Omg tooo late I already updated it and I just saw this, didn’t think an update might cause bugs in any daw or plug-ins
Excellent Advice, Mitch. Thank you for putting this together :)
If you put out a promo video like this, and state "see our Sweetcare," and there is no link or submenu where that can be obviously found, it would be nice to have a link to that provided. I could only find it via a search box. That's just not right!
Thanks Mitch, my thoughts on upgrading the new OS is always tentative. I have an M1 Mini and love it.
Using M1 Max 32GB 4TB Monterey MacBook here, ( medium sized projects: around 150 tracks of vsti plugins and kontakt instances )
Cubase 10.5 runs very smoothly, Logic on the other hand is a little buggy.
Also all the VST plugins work in cubase but some AU plugins don’t work in Logic. I’m running everything thru Rosetta.
Only thing I miss is Virtual Guitarist 2 which is a 32bit plugin and Slate VSX that doesn’t work on Monterey at all. Everything else runs smoothly.
You should have linked the compatibility page. :)
Good call! Just added ours👉 www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/macos-12-monterey-compatibility-guide/
@@sweetwater Ahh, thanks! I looked it up already, but awesome for future videos.
I would advise against updating just yet as the update has rendered my external drive useless. My Gtech Gdrive EV Raw keeps flashing, won't eject, won't let my macbook shutdown if connected, and won't copy files to desktop or delete files. After 15-30 minutes the flashing stops and and the drive functions normally. It is quite a headache having to wait that long to have access to sound libraries on this drive.
You might backup and format as APFS if you haven't already. I updated a few days back and haven't noticed any issues with my external drives yet. I used to sometimes have weird issues like that when I'd use EXFAT formatted drives though. Alternatively: the drive could be failing. You might want to go into Disk Utility and run First Aid on it.
@@exiles_dot_tv I have reformatted my drive to APFS and still the issues occur.
It sounds like it is trying to index your SSD; not too difficult to fix!
Open up your "System Preferences", go to "Spotlight", go to the "Privacy" tab, and then add your drive as a location to ignore. You can reboot just to be sure it is working as it should.
Well done🤘🤘
Thankyou for this information 🙏
Mitch is the goat. Sweetwater is honestly the absolute best place to buy new music gear. If only they could get FedEx to deliver on time with similar quality. 😂
Awesome!!! Thanks for doing this.
All the updates are doing is opening up the ability for them to know everything you do.
Good idea. Will take a look 👍
Help !protools studio M1 Monterey doesn't see any plugins waves v12.v13.v14 reaper doesn't see it either
New OS seems fine
My upgrade to Montery 12.3 broke my connectivity to my 4K monitor. Now it displays only at 1080 FHD when it was working fine at 4K until 12.3.
Logic Plugins don't even work on my M1 now. Much less any other plugins. Plus, I can't even Downgrade back to Big Sur. They basically bricked it, with the Upgrade. I really screwed up, by not understanding what was going to happen.
Thank you Mitch!
Akai users we've been waiting since Mojave. No hope for us.
I’m really new to upgrading. I am using Hi Sierra OS X and want to move to Monterey, 2014MacBook air.
Does Monterey give new versions of Garageband, iMovie, QuickTime by downloading it, or do I need to upgrade those separately?
It looks like it has crashed my ability to use my Focusrite Saffire Pro 40's. I see on the Focusrite site that they aren't supporting anymore updates. Now I have to fully erase my Mac to bring it back to an older operating system. Beware indeed!
Big Sur fked up my speakers, I hope the rectified issue in Monterey!
What does it mean? Even more instability of course. Mainstage is already flakey enough on Big Sur, this should ensure it's completely unusable.
Great post,,,
can the Monterey update be Reversed ? it messed up my logic 9 & 10 operations.
I see my black lion interface working with it so im good to go!!!
phew great..just waiting for the update to complete :)
Hi, Did you test Cubase with the new OS?
I just updated to the Monetary, I’m currently using the Apollo Twin, Nuemann 103 and m1 mac. Ever since i switch mics and downloaded Auto Key, my computer crashes every 2 minutes! What do i do 😢😢
What is Sweetwater's take on Apple Silicon vs Intel as far as compatibility. I've seen reports from other professionals in the past that the new arch breaks more things than new versions of the OS in certain cases. Since I haven't seen any recent updates on these reports, was just curious if the Apple Silicon vs Intel is still a bigger concern over the version of the OS running.
Hey, Clinton! That's a great question. The Apple Silicon (M1) at this point seems to be generally compatible for most major DAWs and software - although I would still double check with all of the software that you're running to make sure. Both are fantastic, but Silicon is showing to be an extremely efficient chip, and is greatly improving performance in their computers. As for OS, you should always have some hesitancy to update to their new roll-outs. In the audio world, it's always a good rule of thumb to hold off on updating to the newest OS until the audio software companies have worked out their bugs and backed support.
I hope this helps!
Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
I bought an M1 to replace my 2014 MPB as my Mainstage machine in conjunction with my Nektar P6 keyboard. I've encountered a number of problems with the M1 computer in terms of stuck notes, disappearing sounds and random disconnections between the Macbook and audio/midi devices. Logic is solid but thanks to my Mainstage experiences, I definitely get the feeling that even a year later this hardware is not ready yet.
Meanwhile, Waves SoundGrid is STILL not ready for M1 Mac, nor is DANTE VIA or Virtual Soundcard. It’s pretty disappointing that if you have leapt ahead and embraced audio over Ethernet you can still not use an M1 Mac… seriously Waves and Audinate, get it together!
Don't upgrade to Monterey it will destroy ur workflow. Logic x and cubase both stopped. working.
Same here wish I didn’t update
can't open logic old songs on my iMac . I can record new songs . copy old songs to reopen ugh
Why do they have to use a random “code name”!? Just call it OS12.
I'll just stick with Big Sur (for now)
Guys ，I really wanna fix the ableton live 11 sound poping problem！Help！（currently 💻MacBook
Mac OS monterery )(have tried many tips but...)
How can you get thumbs down? It's not deserved!!!
Cubase 11 Pro?
Lost access to Reasons after monterey download. Can anyone help?
Hey Mitch ...whats up brother ..
Does anybody know how long it could take Native Instruments to make Komplete 13/ Native Access compatible with Mac OS Monterey based on previous OS updates? The clerk at Guitar Center told me it’s compatible and I won’t have any issues, which I currently do face. The Native Access updater keeps crashing. If it takes longer than 3 months I think I should return it and buy something else in the mean time. In conclusion, I Should’ve shopped with SweetWater, they actually know what they’re talking about.
Try giving Native Access full disk access in the security settings. That sometimes fixes things. For Monterey, it will be a while until they will say it’s officially supported, but they do fix things by product. So right now Massive works officially, but you’ll get Arkhis, Noire, Piano Colors, etc working fine. A lot of the play series are broken, and I can’t get any expansions to install. They show up as failed in Access and my download folder has a load of failed ISO’s in there.
Do you have a page for Big Sur?
Here you go! www.sweetwater.com/insync/macos-11-big-sur-should-i-update/
If u update to this , you won’t be able to use Native instrument plugins in protools it will crash immediately
Something I wish I knew before updating 😒
John Mike says it's a No go 👎!
The next update will be called Santa Cruz!
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Anyway to downgrade to Big Sur ?
If you have a Time Machine backup, yes. Reinstall Big Sur on your system drive from scratch, then migrate from Time Machine during the setup.
why
In other words, get out your wallets, kids, as you will be paying for new versions of much of your software. And/or you will no longer be using software that is currently working perfectly now. Sheesh.
#ShoutOutAbleton11
Akai and native instruments are being held hostage by apple
they should start naming their stuff after chinese provinces...