Hey, for proton, if you are running older games, you have to configure winetricks to support 32bit. By default proton is configured for 64bit. You can have both loaded and it will choose the dependency for the game. (Copied)
Thank you for the video! We've added detection for older AMD GPUs and automatically apply the kargs you needed so others that follow your lead won't have to do it themselves. It'll be available in the next Bazzite release.
i've been using linux for like 15 years and i remember when gaming was just not a thing at all on linux, unless you wanted to play SuperTuxKart (good game still lol) or any myriad of quake clones. Now, thanks to Valve, we have hundreds of games that are even AAA sometimes coming to linux. It's amazing. Some day I might never have to use windows again, right now I still use it for gaming personally because I don't want to fuss around much, but I'm excited for the day that I never have to use microsoft products anymore lol
@@albummutation2278 I highly recommend you doing the switch but in an smart way. You see, instead of replacing Windows for Gaming drastically, keep a Gaming Windows installation and a Gaming Linux installation, if something doesn't work properly on Linux, hop on Windows. That's what I do and I keep the best of both worlds. Also, CS 1.6 worked pretty well on Linux 15 years ago if I'm not mistaken, so I guess Gaming on Linux wasn't that bad. Not on Windows' level, but hey you could play one of the greatest multiplayer shooters of all time. Here, in Andalusia, Spain the regional governmet shipped laptops with Guadalinex based on the good ol' golden era Ubuntu, we used to call them "los portátiles verdes". They gaved us those machines back in primary school days so we used to play a lot of Counter Strike 1.6 through Wine pretty flawlessly. I remember being a kid and watching how the big boys in the school killed each other in Assault with those laptops.
@@albummutation2278Linux is getting better, slowly, but it still isn't close to being an OS for most computer users. Nerds and hard-core fans may like it, but for most it's a convoluted maze, full of confusing distros, different user interfaces and unintuitive software repositories. Having to frequently use the terminal to get things done... no thanks. In a bad year, I might have to dip in to a Windows shell once. I had my fill of that back in the '80s and '90s with the Amiga and MS DOS etc, and I don't miss it one bit.
Here's the fun thing- there are a few cars already running Linux that you can make run a normal desktop environment. We truly are living in the year of the automotive Linux desktop!
I have been using dual boot, eighter Dos/Linux, Win9x/Linux, WinXP/Linux or Win7/Linux since 1995. Only gone full Linux and ditching Windows in 2016. Linux are way better than Windows, pending only three specific situations. The first is that one is gaming hardcore on a PC. Second is that you need access to MS Office due to corporate work. And the third are extremely specific situations, like when your only eeprom programmer is an XGecu TL866-II Plus. 95 percent of situations, Linux are better than anything else, if we look at computing as a whole. Yes. As a whole.
12:30 for proton, if you are running older games, you have to configure winetricks to support 32bit. By default proton is configured for 64bit. You can have both loaded and it will choose the dependency for the game.
Can you configure Proton for 32-bit because I've only got WINE and a few games do some wonky things. Unless maybe it's selecting the 64-bit version of WINE by mistake.
@@user-mn8lz7gf6d yes use shitty mac os that isnt supported anymore to cripple the thing so they force you to buy new hardware where the older one is still relevant. This is why i like windows and linux
9:30 Tip: In Bash two exclamation marks represent the last command that you (tried to) run. So instead of using the command history to get the command back, getting the cursor back to the front of the command and then adding "sudo", you can simply type "sudo !!" instead.
I like how this thing was panned for its lack of upgradeability as a professional machine when it was launched, yet it is still infinitely more upgradeable than whatever Apple is trying to sell these days.
Thanks for mentioning Bazzite. I've been looking at a few different versions of SteamOS for my game cabinet and so far they all have their own issues that keep me looking for a replacement. Hopeful that it will feel better to me than HoloISO, winesapOS, and ChimeraOS have felt.
Universal Blue as a whole is really nice. I use the uBlue Silverblue image on my main PC and it works like a charm Bazzite-deck should work better than the ones you mentioned since it's effectively a recreation of SteamOS 3.0 instead of porting SteamOS 3.0 to a device it wasn't designed for
Pretty sure Fedora disabled amdgpu BECAUSE it's flaky with Vulcan. Have a similar setup with a 7970 XT and while pretty fast for the era the API support just never seems to have materialized. Excited to see what the coming Action Retro solutions are!
This is indeed the case. GCN 2 support on the admgpu support isn't quite there. You need to use older DXVK versions (so older Proton version) for better support. They use less of the newer Vulkan features.
I purchased a 2013 Pro a few years ago, strictly as a project computer to upgrade. It was a beautiful device and challenging but enjoyable to work on. I was fortunate enough to sell it before the M1s hit the market or I would never have gotten back any of the money I put into it. I think what I miss the most, and this is true of all the Intel Macs, is the ability to run BootCamp because I have several Windows apps that Apple doesn't have an adequate replacement for. Sure, I can run it on Parallels, but it won't support old 32-bit apps..
It is a gorgeous little thing to have on your desk. I'd like to see it with Mac Studio guts in it, actually. Seems like it would be perfect for that sort of mid-range Mac.
@@ericwood3709 Yeah, it could actually make a come-back with M1 tech in it. (Or, you know, M2 or M3 or whatever Metric CPU comes after.) I have one of these, and while I can't justify using it as a daily-driver when a much more practical Mini will do the trick, I love it very much.
@@nickwallette6201 I picked one up a little while back. I figure it's good for running a 32-bit capable Mac OS version and running some older games, and it's definitely nice just to have sitting around looking pretty.
good to know, also want to put this out there but I use linux mint and I found out if you just change Proton to 7.0-6 fallout (new vegas 3,4) works maybe it can work on this too.
Why does everybody hate the trashcan? I love it. It is a beautiful machine. It is literally the reincarnation of the G4 cube but in a cylinder shape. I love the look. And if I could afford one, I wouldn’t mind buying it at all.
What I remember is that people loved the trashcan design. What they hated was the fact it overheated and began performance throttling with even medium intensity tasks. The amount of third party cooling solutions the ones in our design lab had was comical A great visual design. A terrible design for doing what you'd want a mac pro for (ie, design work and editing)
I love bazzite anything Arch based really. I love extremely light desktop environments. Linux mint is great but the weightless feel of kde plasma is sexy. Sometimes I use hyprland for workflow but I prefer not using window managers.
It’s funny since I just recently got a 12 core and 64gb ram model for 180 since and I quote “it does not display when turned on” as soon as I got it I plugged it in and turned it on and it displayed just fine, it has been running Ubuntu and a minecraft server for quite a while lol.
I love my 2013 trashcan Mac Pro, which I've upgraded with a 1 TB NVMe SSD and 64 GB of RAM, and I keep it at MacOS 10.14 Mojave. Mojave is a relatively modern and well-supported version of MacOS, but still has legacy 32-bit application support. Recently, I had a great time replaying Deus Ex: Human Revolution on my trashcan. Most of my vintage Intel Macs run Mojave, and I believe that if your Mac can still run Mojave, you should keep it there (or run a second partition with Mojave) for legacy app support. I have two Mac Pros: my 2013 trashcan, and my heavily-upgraded 2010 cheesegrater, which has a 3.46 six-core CPU (up from a 2.8 GHz quad-core), 48 GB of RAM, a 2 TB NVMe SSD in a glowing PCIe adapter, an RX 580 graphics card, a Blu Ray drive, a USB-C card and a FireWire 400 card.
I got a 6-core in July for $250! I always wanted one and with the recent price drop I jumped at it! I’m using is as a daily driver… despite having a base model M2 Pro MBP 😂 It should get security updates for another year so why not enjoy it (or put Linux like this video, or Windows on it) For the price it’s a decent machine for that user who might need multiple monitors. Maybe like a lower-range power user.
Why would you waste it's potential with windows? You'd also be ruining your desk as it slowly melts it's way through. My IBM T41 still gets updates, since it's running gentoo.
Fantastic! It’ll be awhile before that Mac Pro will ever go obsolete under Linux especially considering the fact that the GPU has supported by open source drivers (of course the AMDGPU driver being the best of what’s available). I’m willing to bet you could use a dedicated GPU via thunderbolt or perhaps the M.2 PCIE slot that it has (that some have used for NVME SSDs).
I installed ublue the other day! There is something I really like about immutable Linux distros. Really stable, and if something does break you can just boot in to the last state. Want to switch out desktop environment? Sure rebase to another image and reboot, now you have a different OS with all your files and Flatpak apps still intact!
The big problem is that the cooling system inside is just not strong enough to keep it cool when under heavy load and that causes premature failure of the GPU(s).
@@imjustselva You’re notifying me because you’ve corrected your mistake? I’m not your elementary school teacher, I don’t have a sticker for you, sorry.
Buyer beware. The prices aren't only cratering because they don't support the latest Mac OS. Even when they were supported, they were notorious for crashes. I believe there were entire serial number ranges that are known for it. I had one of these affected machines years ago and while some OS and firmware updates, memory swaps, or accessory changes would help, nothing ever cured it. I doubt Linux would either. I think it was a known video hardware issue, which is of course is not replaceable in these systems. I sold mine on ebay a long time ago and have no intention of ever getting another one.
I still have one because it is upgradable and I am able to run it as a VMWare ESXi host with a whole virtual network of guest virtual machines (including macOS, Linux, and Windows) running on it.
@@hanhnguyenvan3955 ESXi is a bare metal hypervisor so you need a small boot drive with that. Storage can (probably should) be on another device. You can choose whether to boot from that drive or another as usual with a Mac, so you can learn about VMWare ESXi and then go back to using the Mac normally if you want. It appears that VMWare has no plans to release newer versions for Mac hardware (they do not seem to have plans to support Apple Silicon), so I don’t know how long this will be an option.
The Trashcan, is the reason Mac Pro 5.1's held their value for a decade. It was Apple's biggest Eff You to the Pro User. It's also why most Avid workstations suddenly became Windows PCs. Anything that used PCIe cards, the Trashcan wasn't bought.
I ADORE Linux running on Macs. My 2011 Mac Mini runs Arco Linux with MOST of the different window managers installed (I gravitate towards the floating window managers...). It also dual-boots into Debian with Cinnamon desktop when I'm just relaxing... My M1 Mac Mini runs Asahi Linux beautifully. Subjectively, apps seem more quick-reacting in Linux than in native macOS Ventura. Looking forward to more Linux-on-Apple adventures.
I play all my games on Linux these days I have yet to find a game I can't get to run . some require a little tinkering and figuring out which version of proton to work . I don''t think I have booted into windows for over a year. I love that Linux can bring new life to old equipment that might otherwise find its way to the landfill
I actually like the tube style form factor, though it unfortunately is very unpractical if it comes to installing hardware: The cooling principle is quite clever, due to the fan positioning at least potentially quite silent, it doesn't take all that much free space and the aesthetics are quite good compared to the simple mindcraft style blocks we are used too otherwise. Personally I prefer something even smaller that can stand on more than one end though, such as the ASRock Deskmeet X300 or a Minis Forum UM690 ... .
Macbook pro fan or mbpfan is an app that i install on debian based distros to control the fan curve on Apple devices. autostarts with the system once installed and can be edited to keep th temps in check as well as can be with the limited cooling provided.
FYI you don't even need additional software, in Linux you can echo values right to the kernel space to increase the fan speed cd /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768 || failexit "Apple SMC fan control not found!" # set fan speed echo 3000 >fan1_min echo 3000 >fan2_min echo 2500 >fan3_min
I've been rocking the Trashcan Mac until last year, I did try to use Linux on it before getting my current system however I was having graphical issues in Steam, Shadow, and in some games. The GPU driver fix at 08:12 was probably what I was looking for!
The fact that Apple offers to recycle this for "free" while selling for $5500 on their site, shows you something. It also isn't compatible with the latest version of MacOS. Fucking embarrassing.
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Hey, for proton, if you are running older games, you have to configure winetricks to support 32bit. By default proton is configured for 64bit. You can have both loaded and it will choose the dependency for the game. (Copied)
Nice phone.
Use this to play stalker
In an alternative universe Doug DeMuro is installing Linux on an old Ford Escort.
while eating a car panini!
ruclips.net/video/4Rz8BPRFeiA/видео.html
"the lag on the acceleration has indeed been reduced, but the framerate of the wipers are still not great."
It would certainly make it more quirky!
basically what android auto is, so it's not that crazy an idea...
@@fohkukohgekinot really
Thank you for the video! We've added detection for older AMD GPUs and automatically apply the kargs you needed so others that follow your lead won't have to do it themselves. It'll be available in the next Bazzite release.
Oh that's awesome!! Thank you for this project!
@@ActionRetro Well now that you did the hard work looks like it will be easier for us 🤪
Nice. I'll be giving Bazzite a try. Anything that makes gaming on Linux easier is worth it in my book.
john freeman... saver of humens
@@ActionRetroprobably should have installed holo os on it
Always good to see Fedora saving old machines (either directly from us or from our downstreams, collaboration is great)!
Love your distro
lol official fedora
no way is that fedora from hit show the fedora project
i use Arch btw
I use Arch btw
It's really cool to see *Linux* gaming PC's becoming a thing now. I hope people keep making these sort of videos!
i've been using linux for like 15 years and i remember when gaming was just not a thing at all on linux, unless you wanted to play SuperTuxKart (good game still lol) or any myriad of quake clones. Now, thanks to Valve, we have hundreds of games that are even AAA sometimes coming to linux. It's amazing. Some day I might never have to use windows again, right now I still use it for gaming personally because I don't want to fuss around much, but I'm excited for the day that I never have to use microsoft products anymore lol
@@albummutation2278 I highly recommend you doing the switch but in an smart way. You see, instead of replacing Windows for Gaming drastically, keep a Gaming Windows installation and a Gaming Linux installation, if something doesn't work properly on Linux, hop on Windows. That's what I do and I keep the best of both worlds.
Also, CS 1.6 worked pretty well on Linux 15 years ago if I'm not mistaken, so I guess Gaming on Linux wasn't that bad. Not on Windows' level, but hey you could play one of the greatest multiplayer shooters of all time. Here, in Andalusia, Spain the regional governmet shipped laptops with Guadalinex based on the good ol' golden era Ubuntu, we used to call them "los portátiles verdes". They gaved us those machines back in primary school days so we used to play a lot of Counter Strike 1.6 through Wine pretty flawlessly. I remember being a kid and watching how the big boys in the school killed each other in Assault with those laptops.
@@albummutation2278Linux is getting better, slowly, but it still isn't close to being an OS for most computer users. Nerds and hard-core fans may like it, but for most it's a convoluted maze, full of confusing distros, different user interfaces and unintuitive software repositories. Having to frequently use the terminal to get things done... no thanks. In a bad year, I might have to dip in to a Windows shell once. I had my fill of that back in the '80s and '90s with the Amiga and MS DOS etc, and I don't miss it one bit.
Here's the fun thing- there are a few cars already running Linux that you can make run a normal desktop environment. We truly are living in the year of the automotive Linux desktop!
I have been using dual boot, eighter Dos/Linux, Win9x/Linux, WinXP/Linux or Win7/Linux since 1995. Only gone full Linux and ditching Windows in 2016. Linux are way better than Windows, pending only three specific situations. The first is that one is gaming hardcore on a PC. Second is that you need access to MS Office due to corporate work. And the third are extremely specific situations, like when your only eeprom programmer is an XGecu TL866-II Plus.
95 percent of situations, Linux are better than anything else, if we look at computing as a whole. Yes. As a whole.
Sometimes when you get those Vulkan errors its worth using an older version of Proton. I found Proton 6 to be the most compatible across the board.
12:30 for proton, if you are running older games, you have to configure winetricks to support 32bit. By default proton is configured for 64bit. You can have both loaded and it will choose the dependency for the game.
For those that will say "just use windows", yeah... I don't want a hole melted in my desk thank you very much!
@@runed0s86 why would that happen???
@@runed0s86just use windows and put it on the floor, duh
Can you configure Proton for 32-bit because I've only got WINE and a few games do some wonky things. Unless maybe it's selecting the 64-bit version of WINE by mistake.
@@mecyanned you didn't get it.
This machine needs its own Linux distro, and they could call it Trash Can OS. 😂
rubbishOS
TrashMacOS
it's called MacOS...
@@user-mn8lz7gf6d 😂
@@user-mn8lz7gf6d yes use shitty mac os that isnt supported anymore to cripple the thing so they force you to buy new hardware where the older one is still relevant. This is why i like windows and linux
Thanks for showing off Bazzite! As someone who's followed the project closely, it's lovely to see people using it
I love trash macs, waiting for the day they become too useless for daily use so i can convert mine to a planter lmao
plug in a keyboard with the keys pulled out and some kind of moss growing inside!
I believe that day was 4 hours after launch. IDK what's worse, the tissue box g4 or this.
@@kurtwinter4422that’s the best name for the cube I’ve ever heard
Just please use one that is hopelessly broken, so those of us that like fully-functional old computers can get one that hasn't been neutered. :-(
"Oft-maligned tube of hubris" is so perfect for this ridiculous contraption. LOL
9:30 Tip: In Bash two exclamation marks represent the last command that you (tried to) run. So instead of using the command history to get the command back, getting the cursor back to the front of the command and then adding "sudo", you can simply type "sudo !!" instead.
PS: it doesn't work on the fish shell, so beware that it ain't universal.
@@arjix8738 on fish you can just press alt-s
What?? This whole time I could have been doing that? Thank you so much lol
This deserves more attention, I feel this is one of those things both newcomers and experienced users might go their lives needing, but not knowing.
@@arjix8738 the OP literally said "in Bash", no other shell was mentioned. Fish is irrelevant. Lol
I like how this thing was panned for its lack of upgradeability as a professional machine when it was launched, yet it is still infinitely more upgradeable than whatever Apple is trying to sell these days.
That Doug DeMuro reference caused me to finally subscribe after watching you here and there for a few months.
T H E G R E A T E S T T E C H N I C I A N T H A T S E V E R L I V E D
Like those "Trash to Treasure" type videos except you only do it through software and it's still a physical trashcan in the end.
Or an extremly nice ashtray
Trashcan to treasure
Thanks for mentioning Bazzite. I've been looking at a few different versions of SteamOS for my game cabinet and so far they all have their own issues that keep me looking for a replacement. Hopeful that it will feel better to me than HoloISO, winesapOS, and ChimeraOS have felt.
Universal Blue as a whole is really nice. I use the uBlue Silverblue image on my main PC and it works like a charm
Bazzite-deck should work better than the ones you mentioned since it's effectively a recreation of SteamOS 3.0 instead of porting SteamOS 3.0 to a device it wasn't designed for
Pretty sure Fedora disabled amdgpu BECAUSE it's flaky with Vulcan. Have a similar setup with a 7970 XT and while pretty fast for the era the API support just never seems to have materialized. Excited to see what the coming Action Retro solutions are!
The Linux kernel defaults to radeon over amdgpu is because there are/were missing features on the gen1/2 GCN chips related to analog outputs
This is indeed the case. GCN 2 support on the admgpu support isn't quite there. You need to use older DXVK versions (so older Proton version) for better support. They use less of the newer Vulkan features.
I have a feeling we are going to experience some trashcan shenanigans
The best thing on RUclips is progressively watching more and more of a channel until you’re just like “how am i not subscribed already??”
Really nice meeting you at VCF Midwest today and thanks for the stickers!
I purchased a 2013 Pro a few years ago, strictly as a project computer to upgrade. It was a beautiful device and challenging but enjoyable to work on. I was fortunate enough to sell it before the M1s hit the market or I would never have gotten back any of the money I put into it. I think what I miss the most, and this is true of all the Intel Macs, is the ability to run BootCamp because I have several Windows apps that Apple doesn't have an adequate replacement for. Sure, I can run it on Parallels, but it won't support old 32-bit apps..
The MacPro "Trashcan" is a design-marvel. I like it very much.
It is a gorgeous little thing to have on your desk. I'd like to see it with Mac Studio guts in it, actually. Seems like it would be perfect for that sort of mid-range Mac.
@@ericwood3709 Yeah, it could actually make a come-back with M1 tech in it. (Or, you know, M2 or M3 or whatever Metric CPU comes after.)
I have one of these, and while I can't justify using it as a daily-driver when a much more practical Mini will do the trick, I love it very much.
@@nickwallette6201 I picked one up a little while back. I figure it's good for running a 32-bit capable Mac OS version and running some older games, and it's definitely nice just to have sitting around looking pretty.
I love the trashcan. Though I think it should have been positioned more as a mac studio equeivalent instead of a Pro replacemnt
One of my favorite designs. I recently upgraded mine to an 8 core cpu and repasted the gpus. I have it running Ventura.
For New Vegas, you'll need a fork of Proton. Not sure what it's called, but I got it to work by enabling that version for New Vegas specifically.
I think it’s Proton GE (Glorious Eggroll)
@@ShelbySann That's the one!
good to know, also want to put this out there but I use linux mint and I found out if you just change Proton to 7.0-6 fallout (new vegas 3,4) works maybe it can work on this too.
For some reason NV also works with older versions of proton
That is one of the most USB usb devices you could have chosen. I love it!
@ 0:35 in: clever reference to Doug DeMuro! I watch his videos often.
He turned a trashcan into a "Steam"ed "Apple" by summoning blue mineralized penguins wearing blue hats into it.
Apple MacPro with an AMD GPU, Running Bazzite Linux and controlling it all with an Microsoft XBox Controller.
You had me at "oft-maligned tube of hubris"
Burst out laughing when i saw the title and had to check this out. Well played lol!
Why does everybody hate the trashcan? I love it. It is a beautiful machine. It is literally the reincarnation of the G4 cube but in a cylinder shape. I love the look. And if I could afford one, I wouldn’t mind buying it at all.
What I remember is that people loved the trashcan design. What they hated was the fact it overheated and began performance throttling with even medium intensity tasks. The amount of third party cooling solutions the ones in our design lab had was comical
A great visual design. A terrible design for doing what you'd want a mac pro for (ie, design work and editing)
I love bazzite anything Arch based really. I love extremely light desktop environments. Linux mint is great but the weightless feel of kde plasma is sexy. Sometimes I use hyprland for workflow but I prefer not using window managers.
Rofl, I really laughed at that "several days later" cut 🤣
I got algorithmed in to watching this video and now I wanna buy a trash can to install Linux on an stickerbomb it. Nice job!
"Silky smooth!"
visible tearing
It’s funny since I just recently got a 12 core and 64gb ram model for 180 since and I quote “it does not display when turned on” as soon as I got it I plugged it in and turned it on and it displayed just fine, it has been running Ubuntu and a minecraft server for quite a while lol.
The favorite thing I love about you tubers is how they make polls. And then they decide to not go with the answer that wins. 😂
I'm running Ventura 13.5.1 on my 2013 Pro with 3 monitors. It is running very well. Like the video, though. Always looking at new options!
The Doug score part got me good.
it is weird to watch a video with the camera looking at a monitor on that exact same monitor...
Linux gaming has come a long way over the last 7ish years. I have switched over completly
Ah yes, my favorite hardware reviewer, Moug MeDuro!
The title you gave this video is the absolute BEST RUclips video title that I've ever seen.
It's funny to think that this Mac became Mac Studio and people love it
I love the Trash Can Pros. Was hoping they would come back with Apple Silicon, instead we got the boring Studio
Many a trash can still running in professional situations running older but great software.
I love my 2013 trashcan Mac Pro, which I've upgraded with a 1 TB NVMe SSD and 64 GB of RAM, and I keep it at MacOS 10.14 Mojave. Mojave is a relatively modern and well-supported version of MacOS, but still has legacy 32-bit application support. Recently, I had a great time replaying Deus Ex: Human Revolution on my trashcan.
Most of my vintage Intel Macs run Mojave, and I believe that if your Mac can still run Mojave, you should keep it there (or run a second partition with Mojave) for legacy app support.
I have two Mac Pros: my 2013 trashcan, and my heavily-upgraded 2010 cheesegrater, which has a 3.46 six-core CPU (up from a 2.8 GHz quad-core), 48 GB of RAM, a 2 TB NVMe SSD in a glowing PCIe adapter, an RX 580 graphics card, a Blu Ray drive, a USB-C card and a FireWire 400 card.
That was legit awesome, gave me vibes of the keynote where Steve Jobs showed the Mac playing PlayStation games for the first time.
I got a 6-core in July for $250! I always wanted one and with the recent price drop I jumped at it! I’m using is as a daily driver… despite having a base model M2 Pro MBP 😂
It should get security updates for another year so why not enjoy it (or put Linux like this video, or Windows on it)
For the price it’s a decent machine for that user who might need multiple monitors. Maybe like a lower-range power user.
Why would you waste it's potential with windows? You'd also be ruining your desk as it slowly melts it's way through.
My IBM T41 still gets updates, since it's running gentoo.
I’m a sucker for youtuber callouts but man I love it when my nerdy computer content calls out my car nerdy content
Tube of Hubris... Tube-ris... I'm sorry.
I actually like the trashcan, I know its got a lot of issues but its sentimental to me.
Honestly, I use one of these as my main computer (I'm using it right now) and they're great. Severely underestimated.
Great video!
I came for the old MACs and stayed for the Linux shenanigans
bringo boi is so happy
Sick Kaonashi shirt dude, also sweet vid. That was a great use bazzite, will have to try this out myself.
Fantastic! It’ll be awhile before that Mac Pro will ever go obsolete under Linux especially considering the fact that the GPU has supported by open source drivers (of course the AMDGPU driver being the best of what’s available). I’m willing to bet you could use a dedicated GPU via thunderbolt or perhaps the M.2 PCIE slot that it has (that some have used for NVME SSDs).
I installed ublue the other day! There is something I really like about immutable Linux distros. Really stable, and if something does break you can just boot in to the last state. Want to switch out desktop environment? Sure rebase to another image and reboot, now you have a different OS with all your files and Flatpak apps still intact!
I guess everyone with a dog should get a 'trash can'
The big problem is that the cooling system inside is just not strong enough to keep it cool when under heavy load and that causes premature failure of the GPU(s).
it’s like the old adage: “one person’s trash can is another person’s linux treasure”
oh effing hell that bit at the start had me cracking up!
Thank you for resurrecting the under appreciated trash can. I can’t wait to see what you do next!😊
One of these days I should do a parody of your videos on my channel with some of the weird Apple hardware I have. hehe
You should get a Grouch muppet to put next to the Trashcan - he would be a natural. Call it the Grouch OS.
Retro tech and an XJ. I love this channel.
your content is so good release a part 2 upgrading this machine!
“You are content is so good” 🤦
nope? i said you're content which is correct@@alamunez
@@imjustselva ‘You’re’ is short for ‘you are’, genius 🤦
read the comment and focus again lol@@alamunez
@@imjustselva You’re notifying me because you’ve corrected your mistake? I’m not your elementary school teacher, I don’t have a sticker for you, sorry.
To run the last command you run using sudo, instead of retyping the whole thing, you can run "sudo !!" instead. This is known as "sudo bang bang"
Buyer beware. The prices aren't only cratering because they don't support the latest Mac OS. Even when they were supported, they were notorious for crashes. I believe there were entire serial number ranges that are known for it. I had one of these affected machines years ago and while some OS and firmware updates, memory swaps, or accessory changes would help, nothing ever cured it. I doubt Linux would either. I think it was a known video hardware issue, which is of course is not replaceable in these systems. I sold mine on ebay a long time ago and have no intention of ever getting another one.
But it was cool looking. I'm not gonna lie.
I admit I lost it at "next generation Apple Pippin". That was funny.
I still have one because it is upgradable and I am able to run it as a VMWare ESXi host with a whole virtual network of guest virtual machines (including macOS, Linux, and Windows) running on it.
did you íntall VMWare on top of MacOs?
@@hanhnguyenvan3955 ESXi is a bare metal hypervisor so you need a small boot drive with that. Storage can (probably should) be on another device. You can choose whether to boot from that drive or another as usual with a Mac, so you can learn about VMWare ESXi and then go back to using the Mac normally if you want. It appears that VMWare has no plans to release newer versions for Mac hardware (they do not seem to have plans to support Apple Silicon), so I don’t know how long this will be an option.
The trash can Mac is a perfect representation of Apple's current CEO.
I never thought I'd see Action Retro play games on a wastepaper basket.
The Trashcan, is the reason Mac Pro 5.1's held their value for a decade. It was Apple's biggest Eff You to the Pro User. It's also why most Avid workstations suddenly became Windows PCs. Anything that used PCIe cards, the Trashcan wasn't bought.
I ADORE Linux running on Macs. My 2011 Mac Mini runs Arco Linux with MOST of the different window managers installed (I gravitate towards the floating window managers...). It also dual-boots into Debian with Cinnamon desktop when I'm just relaxing... My M1 Mac Mini runs Asahi Linux beautifully. Subjectively, apps seem more quick-reacting in Linux than in native macOS Ventura. Looking forward to more Linux-on-Apple adventures.
Just picked one up for the last days in Monterey but hoping for full Arch to come to this gem - and use a laptop cooler to prevent a space heater
You can already install full arch on it. Nothing is stopping you. Hell, you can install full arch on the M1 already
I play all my games on Linux these days I have yet to find a game I can't get to run . some require a little tinkering and figuring out which version of proton to work . I don''t think I have booted into windows for over a year. I love that Linux can bring new life to old equipment that might otherwise find its way to the landfill
Until I scrolled down to the bottom of your caption on the thumbnail, I thought you were going to install Linux on a coffee mug.
People make fun of Microsoft and Sony for making a fridge and a wifi router, but they forget Apple made a damn trash can
Got this going in my ears while I hang headers on my mustang. Love your channel!
Hell yeah!
The old cheesegrater still looks timeless in 2023! 👌
that glass of wudder on the desk definitely places you, lol
I got one cheap from auction all decked out for like $75. It’s been a proxmox node for a few years and still working quite well 🎉
Oh yeah, that's the computer the Sebastian Lague has
I've been using this thing as a homelab for a few months now
64 GB of ECC DDR3 quad channel is a steal
I have Ubuntu running on a 2013 mac mini just for web browsing and stuff, still works just fine.
Ngl, 13:00 was pretty sick. I think the Tux Penguin really adds a charm to this Trash Can.
First the Doug demuro reference, but then to say a glass of wudder like you’re friggin’ Chris fix? Someone’s been watching a lot of car content lol
I actually like the tube style form factor, though it unfortunately is very unpractical if it comes to installing hardware:
The cooling principle is quite clever, due to the fan positioning at least potentially quite silent, it doesn't take all that much free space and the aesthetics are quite good compared to the simple mindcraft style blocks we are used too otherwise.
Personally I prefer something even smaller that can stand on more than one end though, such as the ASRock Deskmeet X300 or a Minis Forum UM690 ... .
“Can’t innovate more my ass”💀
I will quote that for years
Honestly, i thought it was a high tech coffee machine.
Macbook pro fan or mbpfan is an app that i install on debian based distros to control the fan curve on Apple devices. autostarts with the system once installed and can be edited to keep th temps in check as well as can be with the limited cooling provided.
FYI you don't even need additional software, in Linux you can echo values right to the kernel space to increase the fan speed
cd /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768 || failexit "Apple SMC fan control not found!"
# set fan speed
echo 3000 >fan1_min
echo 3000 >fan2_min
echo 2500 >fan3_min
Im not a apple fan but i really wanted one of these and still do love the look of it and how small and compact it is
it comes with a speaker too. kinda based good video.
I've been rocking the Trashcan Mac until last year, I did try to use Linux on it before getting my current system however I was having graphical issues in Steam, Shadow, and in some games. The GPU driver fix at 08:12 was probably what I was looking for!
The Doug Score bit got an instant like out of me. Thanks for the laugh!!
The fact that Apple offers to recycle this for "free" while selling for $5500 on their site, shows you something. It also isn't compatible with the latest version of MacOS. Fucking embarrassing.
The only product that Apple ever made that truly signifies the true spirit of their company and the products they sell...🤣
Cool Project. Like to see what else the "trash can" can do.
That thing looks absolutely baller without its case! A clear case would be awesome
Cool Municipal Waste poster! \m/ Very fitting for a trash can video lol.
Can amd crossfire be enabled in Linux to get those cards to at a minimum share their ram.