The problem is, that their specs were actually unbeatable for the price. But by the time they actually deliver, there are monitors from other brands doing mostly the same and you can just buy them instead. Like this one for example, even if you can have it tommorow, the only reason to buy it would be if you really really want glossy so hard. Otherwise its just another fast IPS panel. 2 years ago it would be mindblowing, now you would need a proper glossy OLED or miniLED to blow any minds...
@@tazboy1934those are 1440p and they are still in preorder stage. People can buy from other reputable brands right now and don’t need to wait. By the time they deliver, even Samsungs’s new 4k QD OLED monitor will be available.
“If you want glossy so hard” dude people buy this monitor BECAUSE it’s glossy. You act as if it is a minor impact on the picture quality. It’s the only glossy display with these specs.
It's going to take YEARS of Dough consistently announcing, producing, and shipping products for me to trust them. The horror stories you read online are not exaggerated, they really are that bad. Taking people's money, not shipping anything, and then refusing a refund has been standard practice for them. If they are actually turning things around that's great, but I would not count on it.
Do not give this company any of your money. I originally pre-ordered a Spectrum QHD 280Hz back in 2021 for $100. In July of 2022 I paid an additional $565.95 as it was supposedly about to ship. Didn't happen. I finally got fed up and cancelled my order on 10/23. Dough support said I should have a refund within 20 days on 10/24. Guess what? NO REFUND YET. They are *literal* criminals.
I got a couple of these from B&H, and I think some key things that are missed here as "stand out" features of this monitor are things like: • Very competitive price for the specs • Support for Display P3 color for creative work • USB-C charging and video support for folks that use something like a MacBook as one of their computers they hook up to the monitor • All of those benefits for creative professionals PLUS the solid and competitive specs for the price for gaming as well There is nothing else even close on the market for people like me. I'm a visual designer by profession, and a competitive gamer. There was nothing else that even got close to offering a single package that could do both. At least, nothing anywhere close to this price point. All that said, is this monitor the perfect monitor? No. But for a specific niche group, it's a no-brainer.
The issue is the warranty. Their quality control isn't great so, there is an equivocal probability that you'll need to RMA the monitor and that's when things will go wrong.
They asked me to ship it to some place to repair and they would pay me back for the shipping. This was when they were still Eve though. I doubt much has changed as D'oh though. My 4k Spectrum was sent to recycle 4 months after it took 2 years to ship to me.@@droszdYou
At the time this monitor was announced, the specs were really really great for its price. But since they are delivering now, other manufacturers have caught up and are offering similar options at similar prices so theres really no reason to go with Dough because they aren't really offering anything different other than their glossy panel on top of being a much less trustworthy brand.
@@Torylmao as far as 27 inch glossy monitors go, dough is the only option. however, in february there are some qd oled 32 inch monitors coming out with glossy coatings. monitors unboxed did a short overview of the msi one recently.
You mentioned there are other similar or even better monitors now, so what would you recommend to get now for someone who was excited for this monitor back when they were announced? I was looking for something to do color-accurate creative work on a Mac and game on a PC and this one used to be on my radar, but after all the controvencies I just moved on but never found another good option.
Personally I would still recommend ordering whatever Dough product you want BUT through B&H. Their customer service is great and it all worked out for me, as somebody who also works in a creative space on Mac and games on PC. I had some issues (user error) trying to figure out how to get the USB hub to work seamlessly switching between Mac and PC, but once I realized my mistake it works great. Some little quirks but nothing more abnormal than on any other monitor. The biggest thing that wasn’t user error was figuring out how to update the firmware which (in my case) was very necessary. It’s a little convoluted but as long as you set up all the cables correctly it should be smooth enough, just feels a bit antiquated.
Happy to say I was able to grab one through B&H and I am loving it so far. Other monitors just didn’t meet the qualifications I needed for my Mac + PC setup and once they started selling through online retailers, I felt a lot more confident in ordering. It’s a great display that does have a few quirks, but overall if you’re able to get one it is excellent. However, yeah the customer service and past shipping/ordering issues are a shame. I do genuinely believe they are trying to improve (and making their products available like this is a step in the right direction) but it’s just going to take a bit longer and some more effort to really redeem themselves in the eyes of a lot of people. Really a shame because the product itself is excellent in my experience.
Do not give this company any of your money. I originally pre-ordered a Spectrum QHD 280Hz back in 2021 for $100. In July of 2022 I paid an additional $565.95 as it was supposedly about to ship. Didn't happen. I finally got fed up and cancelled my order on 10/23. Dough support said I should have a refund within 20 days on 10/24. Guess what? NO REFUND YET. They are *literal* criminals.
what's also interesting, the qd oled turns purple instead of black. WOLED by LG with a glossy coating like on the Dough Black is the best of the best you can every experience in my opinion. it can only get brighter from there WOLED + galaxy s24 ultra gorilla glas would be game changing
I have two monitors from one of the first production runs of the original 4K monitor. The biggest problem was that they were late, like very late. Even tough the LG competitor was also unavailable it started shipping about 1 month before Eve did at least here in Europe.
So here are my thoughts as dough customer - my first monitor from them which was the regular spectrum was sent after 3 weeks (it was supposed to be already in stock), it was 2.5 years ago, the monitor is just fine it back then it was good deal for my money. My latest order was August last year, for the 32 inch 4K OLED monitor - I knew it was preorder and it will take some time for it to be ready, but considering the price I paid 870$ for the gorilla glass version (no stand - their stand sucks), shipping was high (310$), It's a good price. My expectation is for it to be ready for shipping around August this year, even tough there is "optimistic" expectation for the monitor to be available this June - I highly doubt it. They for sure have issues delivering the products on time (in some cases delivering at all), and I hope they will work them out, so it is hard for me to recommend for others to preorder or even order through their website.
Wouldn't be suprised if they're just slapping a gloss layer ontop of the existing matte finish. In the tftcentral video about blackdepth the glossy dough performs suspiciously similar to the matte version of the same panel.
Just snagged one after the recent price drop from B&H. As a designer & gamer this feels like a great option. I’d still like to grab a 32” oled for my main display but having this as a main until those come out and down in price. Then will use this as my 2nd monitor and one I take for travel.
Do not give this company any of your money. I originally pre-ordered a Spectrum QHD 280Hz back in 2021 for $100. In July of 2022 I paid an additional $565.95 as it was supposedly about to ship. Didn't happen. I finally got fed up and cancelled my order on 10/23. Dough support said I should have a refund within 20 days on 10/24. Guess what? NO REFUND YET. They are *literal* criminals.
Ordered their 27” 1440p monitor that was supposed to start shipping in July but never did, and still hasn’t started shipping to this day. I asked for a refund 4 months ago and still haven’t received it; they said it’s still processing. Beautiful monitors but terrible company, no integrity whatsoever.
I'm not really all that interested in the Glossy finish. The biggest feature and entire selling point of this monitor is the integer scaling. It's downright infuriating that literally nobody else has a feature that is so easy to implement.
I saw thru this scam instantly. While their specs looked amazing, I knew that if I had to pay $100 to "reserve" one, that they were likely going to steal my $100 and never deliver anything.
After they asked me to send my monitor to some random company on my dime to fix after 1 month of use, saying they would reimburse me the shipping, I took this to the recycler. After 2 years of waiting on their lies and incompetence it felt so good to get that thing out of my life. I don't even care I wasted the money anymore. Not having to deal with this company anymore feels amazing. This was also the only monitor I have ever had to troubleshoot regularly and constantly upgrade their firmware. Not only were their CS high school bake sale levels of incompetent, so was their QA and engineering. Fuck everything about Eve, Spectrum, Dough or whatever they change their name to and fuck anyone who still works for them.
@philoki Lots of black screening, the monnitor resetting or turning off, the colors looked bad, and I had to update the drivers every week. When I started to use the USB hub, it died a week later. You can go ahead and buy it but you would be a fool. This is a company of scammers. Good luck.
@@natearrigoni thanks for your feedback. A reddit comment gave me the idea of using a TV as a monitor and by the looks of it, many Tech RUclipsrs are doing that. 4k+ resolution, glossy display, 120hz, flat. basically everything one could ask for in a monitor xD currently looking at LG C2...debating which size 42 inch or even 55 inch, because I will also use it as a regular TV. Hope you have found a good solution for yourself.
Well it’s hard not to think that eve or dough deserve this. I won’t be surprised if the company fizzles out into irrelevancy considering all the shenanigans they pulled around customer service, and the fact it took so ungodly long to deliver a somewhat okay product.
I have one of the 4k glossy spectrum monitor (i was lucky to get one), but its a buggy and only semi usable mess. HDMI port/USB port stability issues. UI issues up the wazzu. And multi monitor use is near impossible. Add to that black screens that happen a lot these monitors are too expensive for the quality you get (i spent over 1k for it). These issues are super wide spread and were nicely documented on the EVE forums before they deleted all of them and are now on reddit (and deleting all the complainers). But if you want you can check the HDMI port to see if you get the same motion issues i get. At some point a 144 hz game turns the motion into a strange juttery mess. And thats reflected in the UFO ghosting test. Lots of people complained about this and it still hasn't been fixed, although they claim that a firmware update is incoming this year. Ill believe it when i see it.
If you know ANYTHING, anything at all about manufacturing, there are only a HANDFUL of TV/Display manufacturers in the world. And they make 100% of displays for the world - regardless of brands (most of them are just rebrand with the same cooking cutter specs) All Dough was doing was "contract" manufacturing a batch of monitors (they only do bulk orders) and that was it. As for the newest or latest specs? They've already done the R&D and they certainly aren't going to give the latest tech to a brand new a small player in the field as first user. People keeping falling for this shit. You think they gonna give preference for Dough over Dell/Sony/Samsung/Asus/LG/Gigabye/TCL/ and so many more? U be crazy.
amazing vid as always, btw I bought the gigabyte monitor the G24F V2 and less than a year I had pixel problems and Gigabyte never took care of the warranty, they straight ghost me, so yeah ....
The design is nice but honestly they have plenty of competition with similar specs and iF you ditch the design stand because you have a VESA arm this will look like any thin bezel IPS monitor. The premium is hard to justify
LMAO 950 euros for a 27 inch IPS, at that price you gotta deliver some kind of miniLED monster with the perfect backlight algorithm cause for around 1000 EUR you can get a 38 inch 3840x1600 with nearly identical specs + thunderbolt from LG
@techless Hi can u please suggest me a good gaming monitor from these three :- Benq mobiuz ex240, MSI G2412 and LG 27gn800. I play on a 75hz 1080p monitor and my pc spec are i5, rx 6700 xt and 32 gb ram. I want to upgrade my montior. My use case is to play online fps games like apex, warzone, valorant and overwatch.
Might be a controversial opinion, but: I think if you take money from someone and promise a product in return, and then don't deliver for an indeterminate length of time and instead use the money you took to turn a profit, and then deliver a product years later, by which time a comparable product is worth significantly less than at the time of purchase - that's a de-facto scam.
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The problem is, that their specs were actually unbeatable for the price. But by the time they actually deliver, there are monitors from other brands doing mostly the same and you can just buy them instead. Like this one for example, even if you can have it tommorow, the only reason to buy it would be if you really really want glossy so hard. Otherwise its just another fast IPS panel. 2 years ago it would be mindblowing, now you would need a proper glossy OLED or miniLED to blow any minds...
They do have a glossy oled
@@tazboy1934those are 1440p and they are still in preorder stage. People can buy from other reputable brands right now and don’t need to wait. By the time they deliver, even Samsungs’s new 4k QD OLED monitor will be available.
right!
“If you want glossy so hard” dude people buy this monitor BECAUSE it’s glossy. You act as if it is a minor impact on the picture quality. It’s the only glossy display with these specs.
what is a similar option that has a glossy finish?
Skip to 4:00 to avoid the sponsor BS
It's going to take YEARS of Dough consistently announcing, producing, and shipping products for me to trust them. The horror stories you read online are not exaggerated, they really are that bad. Taking people's money, not shipping anything, and then refusing a refund has been standard practice for them. If they are actually turning things around that's great, but I would not count on it.
Do not give this company any of your money. I originally pre-ordered a Spectrum QHD 280Hz back in 2021 for $100. In July of 2022 I paid an additional $565.95 as it was supposedly about to ship. Didn't happen.
I finally got fed up and cancelled my order on 10/23. Dough support said I should have a refund within 20 days on 10/24. Guess what? NO REFUND YET.
They are *literal* criminals.
I got a couple of these from B&H, and I think some key things that are missed here as "stand out" features of this monitor are things like:
• Very competitive price for the specs
• Support for Display P3 color for creative work
• USB-C charging and video support for folks that use something like a MacBook as one of their computers they hook up to the monitor
• All of those benefits for creative professionals PLUS the solid and competitive specs for the price for gaming as well
There is nothing else even close on the market for people like me. I'm a visual designer by profession, and a competitive gamer. There was nothing else that even got close to offering a single package that could do both. At least, nothing anywhere close to this price point.
All that said, is this monitor the perfect monitor? No. But for a specific niche group, it's a no-brainer.
The issue is the warranty. Their quality control isn't great so, there is an equivocal probability that you'll need to RMA the monitor and that's when things will go wrong.
So that's the catch.
Been waiting over 3 months with no reply to any tickets.
They asked me to ship it to some place to repair and they would pay me back for the shipping. This was when they were still Eve though. I doubt much has changed as D'oh though. My 4k Spectrum was sent to recycle 4 months after it took 2 years to ship to me.@@droszdYou
At the time this monitor was announced, the specs were really really great for its price. But since they are delivering now, other manufacturers have caught up and are offering similar options at similar prices so theres really no reason to go with Dough because they aren't really offering anything different other than their glossy panel on top of being a much less trustworthy brand.
what is a similar option that has a glossy finish?
@@Torylmao as far as 27 inch glossy monitors go, dough is the only option. however, in february there are some qd oled 32 inch monitors coming out with glossy coatings. monitors unboxed did a short overview of the msi one recently.
You mentioned there are other similar or even better monitors now, so what would you recommend to get now for someone who was excited for this monitor back when they were announced?
I was looking for something to do color-accurate creative work on a Mac and game on a PC and this one used to be on my radar, but after all the controvencies I just moved on but never found another good option.
Personally I would still recommend ordering whatever Dough product you want BUT through B&H. Their customer service is great and it all worked out for me, as somebody who also works in a creative space on Mac and games on PC.
I had some issues (user error) trying to figure out how to get the USB hub to work seamlessly switching between Mac and PC, but once I realized my mistake it works great. Some little quirks but nothing more abnormal than on any other monitor.
The biggest thing that wasn’t user error was figuring out how to update the firmware which (in my case) was very necessary. It’s a little convoluted but as long as you set up all the cables correctly it should be smooth enough, just feels a bit antiquated.
@@jessechuff why was it necessary to update the firmware?
Happy to say I was able to grab one through B&H and I am loving it so far. Other monitors just didn’t meet the qualifications I needed for my Mac + PC setup and once they started selling through online retailers, I felt a lot more confident in ordering. It’s a great display that does have a few quirks, but overall if you’re able to get one it is excellent.
However, yeah the customer service and past shipping/ordering issues are a shame. I do genuinely believe they are trying to improve (and making their products available like this is a step in the right direction) but it’s just going to take a bit longer and some more effort to really redeem themselves in the eyes of a lot of people. Really a shame because the product itself is excellent in my experience.
how is the software? any bugs?
they advertised this years ago i feel like. I never pre order anything except im 100% sure and this is why
Do not give this company any of your money. I originally pre-ordered a Spectrum QHD 280Hz back in 2021 for $100. In July of 2022 I paid an additional $565.95 as it was supposedly about to ship. Didn't happen.
I finally got fed up and cancelled my order on 10/23. Dough support said I should have a refund within 20 days on 10/24. Guess what? NO REFUND YET.
They are *literal* criminals.
Great comparison with the OLED G9 for reflections
Any chance we'll get an AOC 24G4 review soon? I have high hopes
i love your well thought out, researched, and carefully crafted videos. 🎉
what's also interesting, the qd oled turns purple instead of black. WOLED by LG with a glossy coating like on the Dough Black is the best of the best you can every experience in my opinion. it can only get brighter from there
WOLED + galaxy s24 ultra gorilla glas would be game changing
I have two monitors from one of the first production runs of the original 4K monitor. The biggest problem was that they were late, like very late. Even tough the LG competitor was also unavailable it started shipping about 1 month before Eve did at least here in Europe.
So here are my thoughts as dough customer - my first monitor from them which was the regular spectrum was sent after 3 weeks (it was supposed to be already in stock), it was 2.5 years ago, the monitor is just fine it back then it was good deal for my money.
My latest order was August last year, for the 32 inch 4K OLED monitor - I knew it was preorder and it will take some time for it to be ready, but considering the price I paid 870$ for the gorilla glass version (no stand - their stand sucks), shipping was high (310$), It's a good price. My expectation is for it to be ready for shipping around August this year, even tough there is "optimistic" expectation for the monitor to be available this June - I highly doubt it.
They for sure have issues delivering the products on time (in some cases delivering at all), and I hope they will work them out, so it is hard for me to recommend for others to preorder or even order through their website.
The company can easily beat Samsung and LG in monitor market just by selling Glossy Monitors they just have to be good at customer service that's all
Wouldn't be suprised if they're just slapping a gloss layer ontop of the existing matte finish.
In the tftcentral video about blackdepth the glossy dough performs suspiciously similar to the matte version of the same panel.
5:04 This closer look at the panel shows otherwise.
Just snagged one after the recent price drop from B&H. As a designer & gamer this feels like a great option. I’d still like to grab a 32” oled for my main display but having this as a main until those come out and down in price. Then will use this as my 2nd monitor and one I take for travel.
Can you test the msi g24c4 e2?
is there list of monitors with glossy finish?
Do not give this company any of your money. I originally pre-ordered a Spectrum QHD 280Hz back in 2021 for $100. In July of 2022 I paid an additional $565.95 as it was supposedly about to ship. Didn't happen.
I finally got fed up and cancelled my order on 10/23. Dough support said I should have a refund within 20 days on 10/24. Guess what? NO REFUND YET.
They are *literal* criminals.
Is the difference in the contrast between 1000:1 and 3000:1 big?
Ordered their 27” 1440p monitor that was supposed to start shipping in July but never did, and still hasn’t started shipping to this day. I asked for a refund 4 months ago and still haven’t received it; they said it’s still processing. Beautiful monitors but terrible company, no integrity whatsoever.
Their monitors are trash along with their employees. I don't trust these people saying they love their perfectly working Spectrums.
I'm not really all that interested in the Glossy finish. The biggest feature and entire selling point of this monitor is the integer scaling. It's downright infuriating that literally nobody else has a feature that is so easy to implement.
Does it have 60hz single strobe option?
I saw thru this scam instantly. While their specs looked amazing, I knew that if I had to pay $100 to "reserve" one, that they were likely going to steal my $100 and never deliver anything.
After they asked me to send my monitor to some random company on my dime to fix after 1 month of use, saying they would reimburse me the shipping, I took this to the recycler. After 2 years of waiting on their lies and incompetence it felt so good to get that thing out of my life. I don't even care I wasted the money anymore. Not having to deal with this company anymore feels amazing.
This was also the only monitor I have ever had to troubleshoot regularly and constantly upgrade their firmware. Not only were their CS high school bake sale levels of incompetent, so was their QA and engineering. Fuck everything about Eve, Spectrum, Dough or whatever they change their name to and fuck anyone who still works for them.
I'm considering getting the monitor since it's available on amazon now. What bugs did you experience?
@philoki Lots of black screening, the monnitor resetting or turning off, the colors looked bad, and I had to update the drivers every week. When I started to use the USB hub, it died a week later.
You can go ahead and buy it but you would be a fool. This is a company of scammers. Good luck.
@@natearrigoni thanks for your feedback. A reddit comment gave me the idea of using a TV as a monitor and by the looks of it, many Tech RUclipsrs are doing that. 4k+ resolution, glossy display, 120hz, flat. basically everything one could ask for in a monitor xD
currently looking at LG C2...debating which size 42 inch or even 55 inch, because I will also use it as a regular TV.
Hope you have found a good solution for yourself.
@philoki that's the way to go. The Spectrum specs were the best 2 years ago, but they never delivered in time or quality.
Innocn has some glossy 4k oled and ips options too.
Well it’s hard not to think that eve or dough deserve this. I won’t be surprised if the company fizzles out into irrelevancy considering all the shenanigans they pulled around customer service, and the fact it took so ungodly long to deliver a somewhat okay product.
I have one of the 4k glossy spectrum monitor (i was lucky to get one), but its a buggy and only semi usable mess. HDMI port/USB port stability issues. UI issues up the wazzu. And multi monitor use is near impossible. Add to that black screens that happen a lot these monitors are too expensive for the quality you get (i spent over 1k for it). These issues are super wide spread and were nicely documented on the EVE forums before they deleted all of them and are now on reddit (and deleting all the complainers).
But if you want you can check the HDMI port to see if you get the same motion issues i get. At some point a 144 hz game turns the motion into a strange juttery mess. And thats reflected in the UFO ghosting test. Lots of people complained about this and it still hasn't been fixed, although they claim that a firmware update is incoming this year. Ill believe it when i see it.
If you know ANYTHING, anything at all about manufacturing, there are only a HANDFUL of TV/Display manufacturers in the world. And they make 100% of displays for the world - regardless of brands (most of them are just rebrand with the same cooking cutter specs) All Dough was doing was "contract" manufacturing a batch of monitors (they only do bulk orders) and that was it. As for the newest or latest specs? They've already done the R&D and they certainly aren't going to give the latest tech to a brand new a small player in the field as first user. People keeping falling for this shit. You think they gonna give preference for Dough over Dell/Sony/Samsung/Asus/LG/Gigabye/TCL/ and so many more? U be crazy.
Can you make a review about the Koorui 27e3qk? Please🥺
look for Alogic clarity monitors, they are also glossy.
only 60hz though
For me, thy don't actually seem that enticing in the first place.
amazing vid as always, btw I bought the gigabyte monitor the G24F V2 and less than a year I had pixel problems and Gigabyte never took care of the warranty, they straight ghost me, so yeah ....
The design is nice but honestly they have plenty of competition with similar specs and iF you ditch the design stand because you have a VESA arm this will look like any thin bezel IPS monitor. The premium is hard to justify
If you’re seriously considering one of these monitors, do NOT pre-order. Just buy at full retail price for protection/peace of mind.
LMAO 950 euros for a 27 inch IPS, at that price you gotta deliver some kind of miniLED monster with the perfect backlight algorithm cause for around 1000 EUR you can get a 38 inch 3840x1600 with nearly identical specs + thunderbolt from LG
@techless Hi can u please suggest me a good gaming monitor from these three :- Benq mobiuz ex240, MSI G2412 and LG 27gn800. I play on a 75hz 1080p monitor and my pc spec are i5, rx 6700 xt and 32 gb ram. I want to upgrade my montior. My use case is to play online fps games like apex, warzone, valorant and overwatch.
Please, consider reviewing the ASUS VG249QM1A and the Lenovo Y25-30 monitors, thanks!
AOC 25G3ZM test please bro.
will wait until they improve their color science and mini-led options
Hi, review monitor MSI G244F, please!!!
Ordered an Eve Spectrum in early 2022 but never received it. Complete scam IMO.
Might be a controversial opinion, but:
I think if you take money from someone and promise a product in return, and then don't deliver for an indeterminate length of time and instead use the money you took to turn a profit, and then deliver a product years later, by which time a comparable product is worth significantly less than at the time of purchase - that's a de-facto scam.
Ich fühl diese outros irgendwie so krass
Love ur content
949€, LMFAO.
LG had also a bad reputation in the beginning... Anything can happen.
i been waiting for my monitor that i paid in full since January 3, 2023, its now december 16, 2023 .. i will never buy from this company again 😒😒
Too much money for that monitor............
Super fregón tu video!! 👍🏻👍🏻
feels like a harsh review coming from a basically new company
First
This is not television.I am not going to watch 1 minute ads.Goodbye.
creators wish they can force long unskippable ads, youtube does it for their own benefit.
no one remember asking
Sponsor block ;)