We Want Off the 2024 Seattle Mariners Rollercoaster
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- After sweeping the Mets in arguably their most impressive series of the year, the notoriously inconsistent 2024 Mariners proceeded to get swept by a mediocre Tigers team. The constant up-and-down of the past four or so months has gone beyond the point of frustration and exhaustion for Ty and Colby, who share some of their thoughts on the state of the team as things currently stand.
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The problem I see with the offensive talent acquisitions is they take decent players and put the pressure on them to carry the team. A good lineup has decent players top to bottom with a star or two sprinkled in. We added polanco and Garver who were good players and expected them to help carry this team. That’s why you need an ohtani or a judge or a trout because those players raw talent brings everyone up. Garver isn’t mentally strong enough to have that kind of responsibility. Neither was Wong or winker or Richie sexton or chone figgins. Also Julio isn’t that type of player either, he gets hot but then tries to play hero ball because no one else can do anything.
This might be the best way to put the Mariners lineup philosophy
Total bases- strikeouts:
Bal: +890 KC: +867
NYY: +844 Bos: +673
Cle: +719 Hou: +862
Min: +791 Mariners: +210
🎵One of these teams (Is not like the others)🎵
One of those teams buys scrap field players while the other teams call up prospects.
The Mariners have fired bench coaches, base coaches, and hitting coaches. Servais is out of excuses.
Seattle must have new ownership, new General Manager and new coach, or the losing will continue.
"It really doesn't seem like this team has a shared goal, and it doesn't seem like this offense plays for one another." Who does that fall on?? I keep hearing from you guys and Mariner Mojo it's not Scott but it is. He brings no inspiration to this team and you can see it on his face and how he acts night in and night out. Only excuses every night on how great the other team pitched. If you guys wanna keep saying "it's not his fault" then tell me what he does that's good? Oh and his bullpen management and daily lineups are god awful too.
True, speaking facts.
Dude lineups don’t matter much.
I atleast saw Softy put out a tweet since he couldn't wait till the morning, and he's right, he basically said if they fired Servais now....what exactly are you losing? I'm with you attitude reflects leadership and Salk said it months ago and I rarely agree with him cause he is one the Mariners biggest water carriers. He said when the players voiced same concern of fans and then the whole public apology forcing Cal to do that, there is no way you can tell me the clubhouse was gonna rally behind Servais and Dipstick.
Servias just seems like he has a very flat vibe to him, or that he's just trying to get through each game, it's like we might lose if we fire him, or we will lose if we keep him
Lineups do mean a lot...it's like back in the day Lou saying, "Hey Griff" uve struggled against Jose Lima, 2 for 14 with 7 K's so I'm gonna drop from third to eighth in the lineup. Amaral has owned him so I'm gonna bat him 3rd. This what a Servais lineup does...players have roles in a line up like football players do. Bathing Rojas 4th when he's a 7 to 9 hitter is a joke and I guarantee the opposing pitchers r like hell ya and I'm sure Julio loves as they pitch around him.... baseball has changed.
If they miss the playoffs, Servais must go. If Jerry wont fire him, he has to go too. Not going to Munoz twice in less than 72 hours is inexcusable. Whats worse, one hit in 9 innings vs. the Tigers. The Tigers
On a bullpen day to wasn't it
@@markhauck3366 will never happen. Servais signed an extension a month ago and those 2 are joined to the hip. Remember 2016 dip hired serv bec. Serv will do Whatever dip 54 orders him to.
Seattle must have new ownership, new General Manager and new coach, or the losing will continue.
The Mariners seem to have the uncanny ability to take decent players and teach them the fine art of anemic offense and striking out in Seattle.
I've been a fan since 1977.I feel bad for the fine starting rotation.
There is no “opportunity” left for this team. The opportunity was there when they were 10 games up. That was the opportunity to bring the hammer down and show that this team IS a contender, and a force the rest of MLB needed to fear. Instead, they started playing like clowns, and the season is over.
This is the fourth-straight year where, late in the season, the Mariners have been in a position where they really must win EVERY GAME, and also need another team/teams to simultaneously lose just to hope to sneak into the playoffs. And that is a strategy that doesn’t usually work.
The “step back” didn’t work. Jerry and Scott have failed…Like I knew they would.
9 years, one playoff appearance, Pete Carroll was fired for WAY LESS, beyond time Seattle Media holds these clowns accountable...Roster construction, lack of coaching, and Servais managing from a spreadsheet constantly the players just have to absolutely be sick of this shyt.
@@zackbleecker7630 It’s really fascinating on a couple of levels. Have they developed strong, excellent starting pitching? Absolutely. They have brought up two solid “core” players in Julio and Cal…They both have their issues at the plate, but usually can come through when needed.
But…
Those young arms could explode at any time…Look at Matt Brash or Spencer Strickland. Out for a year, or more.
DiBozo has made only two trades that have really had a positive impact, and those were for Castillo and JP. But, Castillo can get rattled, and runs his pitch count up (Lord know me that Scott gets a rash whenever any pitcher gets within 25 pitches of 100)…JP is never going to hit .300, but he can hit… .260, when he is “on”. Hopefully, Arozarena won’t suffer “Marineritis” at the plate over the long term.
On the whole…I really don’t know if DiBozo & Co. are just bad at evaluating trade/FA talent…Or if it’s the team’s hitting philosophy that turns good/decent hitters into Kolton Wong and Mitch Garver…Man, I still hope Garver can get it back next year.
In any case…This is the sixth season since DiBozo decided to “step back”, and there should be more to show for it than one damn playoff spot. The Phillies, Dodgers, Red Sox, etc. would can everyone by now if they had the Mariners track record of “success” over this period of time.
4 runs in 3 games. THAT IS PATHETIC!!!!! Embarrassing
54% would be great
Time to admit the truth, sailors...the M's just aren't a playoff-caliber team this year.
What about in '25 or '26?
@@CD-yr8tw In 2019 and 2020 we were told to wait until '23 and '24...🙄🙄
@@aaroncostello8812 So using that math, '27 and '28.
@@CD-yr8tw Except '23 and '24 didn't work out like they said they would, either...
@@aaroncostello8812 Then it will be, '31 and '32.
I started watching baseball/mariners about 4 years ago. How did you guys do this for 20 years?
Outside of 4 or 5 years, this has been going on for 45 years!
This has been going on since 1977.
They are just as terrible on the road as they are at home. This isn't a damn batters eye or marine layer issue. FFS
Exactly, everyone else can come through here and hit fine.
I was waiting for this video! I knew Colby and Ty would have some heat!
This offense is last in batting average, last in hits, 15th in homers, 28th in OPS, 27th in OBP, 19th in OPS+, first in Ks and 26th in RBIs. If they miss the postseason they need to clean house. Fire sale, everyone must go.
Won't make a difference unless ownership goes as well
@@y6cd3sdzHs1g Seattle must have new ownership, new General Manager and new coach, or the losing will continue.
I think the abusive feeling relationship with this team is finally over. They got us to mid August this year, going any further with them would border self harm. Trying to recall a more frustrating season.. can't. Don't even know who to blame, what an amazing starting pitcher staff, what a disaster elsewhere
Servais will NEVER be fired by Dip 54%. They came up the same time (Dip hired Serv because they are old buddies) 2016 and Serv signed an EXTENSION within the month. Almost 10 YEARS, and one playoff appearance to show. If you think the rotation Miller, Woo, Kirby, Gilbert, Castillo are NOT thinking of a trade because this line up is WASTING their effort, you are clueless.
Not just that and I think Sewald eluded to it since he is still friends with quite a few of them....why the F would guys like Gilbert, Kirby, Cal, any of them want to re-sign here? I know they probably love the fans and the support, but have to hate just being screwed over by Servais and Dipoto year after year.
2023 was a rollercoaster but still had fun moments. 2024 is the most boring baseball team ever. They don’t hit home runs, they’re unwatchable outside of the starters, and their bullpen is garbage in big moments.
For all the talk about the Mariners pitching being as good as it is. When the Astros arbitrarily decided to stop sucking ass, they have the best team pitching ERA since May 9th (when they were 12-24 which was their worst point in the season....)
Easy to pitch knowing you'll win 8-3, if need be.
Servais is the problem.
I don't know why anyone is surprised. This offense plain sucks. Our "superstar" is a league average hitter except for a couple of great streaks. Your most productive hitter doesn't hit his weight and is Dylan F'n Moore still leading the team in extra base hits? As a team we can't beat the Mendoza line! Remember, this team is designed for 87 wins. Do you really expect more?
I’m tired of hearing how good this pitching staff is. It doesn’t matter. IT DOESN’T MATTER so long as the offense continues to do zero. I’m exhausted too and this team doesn’t seem to care. At least that’s what it looks like. Clock is ticking on the 2024 season and it doesn’t look good right about.
This was such a strangely cathartic listen. You guys hit on a lot of my frustrations with the team over the last season and a half or so in ways I really couldn't put into words.
If we don't win the series against Pittsburgh and Houston does what we all probably assume will happen against the White Sox, I'll just concede that the playoffs aren't going to happen. I'll still watch/listen to the games but I definitely feel like my hope will be all but gone- especially with us losing the season series against teams like Boston and Minnesota who we would have to leap in the WC standings
this lineup needs an overhaul. And there is NO WAY they will spend the money it takes to fix it. Next year will be the same. Brace yourselves.
Seattle must have new ownership, new General Manager and new coach, or the losing will continue.
Seattle only win vs Detroit was a miracle walk-off. You can call the Detroit pitchers scrub after scrub but I think its your lineup thats got the endless scrubs.
It has to the worst lineup in baseball without Rodriguez, easily.
Not sure what you expect from a Mariners lineup that looks like a rec league softball team.
Scott was good at working with a building program young players and transit players now we have a team that is ready to win they need to be motivated in a different way now a hard core way it's time to move on from Scott and change up the messaging and the expectations. It's time to win and it's time to expect excellents!
Seattle must have new ownership, new General Manager and new coach, or the losing will continue.
This organization has squandered great pitching for two years.
This episode felt like a funeral for the 2024 club. And rightly so
Honestly boys I'm a Bremerton born baller just across the water from Seattle got a lifetime OBP% 345 LIFETIME I know playoffs are coming up soon if you needed a good utility player I'm available 🏆💪
Part of what built the 10 game lead is that the mariners led the league in wins with a 1 run lead. So many of those early win games were super low scoring and once we got into the season and played games with more runs being scored, we couldn’t keep up.
Is it realistic that Mitch talking shit after the lucky walk off last series is part of why the tigers looked like they were playing in the World Series this last three days? Like they had a point to prove?
I'm going to start showing up to games with a sign that says "Bring small ball back."
Save you paper and ink. Clearly they already have small balls.
No sense of urgency and energy is on the fkn manager, Scott needs to go
Title of the video says it all. Good work on whoever came up with that
I don't think you can really blame the Front office. They brought it people who drastically under performed under their norms. Not to mention the returning players who struggled including julio. Seems more like a coaching problem than it is a Front office problem
Locked on Astros fan here. Yall deserve a playoff run. Really hope we can fit the Astros and Mariners in the playoffs!! Just NOT THE RANGERS. lol
Long time Stros fan y'all. Keep your heads up. Most of us honest Astros fans realize your team will get hot again at some point. Your pitching staff makes us nervous. I know you don't like us much, but personally....I think you deserve a winner. Much respect to your fan base. I just don't want it to be at our expense. Lol
Ahoy guys!!! Where’s the duct tape for the holes in the ship 😣
😂😂 I love my mariners. They are who I thought they were.
Make the coaster go back up this weekend and stay up its like this team runs on a limited amount of energy and we used it all up in the mets series....
This is NOT a 2024 issue! Owners have all sucked from first til present. One tried moving us to Tampa, another never once attended a singke game for 20 years, now the owners wont pay for whats needed as they make as much or more than all other teams. No Neihaus...so whats the draw?
I don't understand how people watch this offense and their first remark is fire Scott. Like what is that possibly going to accomplish? Haniger will all of sudden be peak Haniger. Garver will remember he's been a plus hitter his career? Common they stink and it really doesn't have anything to do with coaching.
They only had a 10 game lead because the rest of the division was playing worse than they were. Once the Astros started playing like a proper contender, the Ms folded like toilet paper
Astros with a 14 game turnaround in 2 months without their best pitcher and their best hitter before he got hurt 😂. You guys have no excuses
Best hitter? I get that Kyle Tucker was on a tear before he got injured but I think Yordan is still their best.
@@jonnyaztonish1493 , Yordan Alvarez, yes, but he was cold as ice when Tucker went down. Tucker was RBI and HR leader when he got injured.
From 19 runs in 3 games to what, 4? It must be soooooo frustrating to be a Mariners starting pitcher. I mean, what more do they have to do? You go 7, give up 2 hits and then the bullpen blows it and the offense falls flat.
as Astros fan I can empathize. If Hader can get a 6 out save surely Munoz can
Hey Colby you know what need to change but you don’t want to say.. is servais
We would need to add a Vladdy level bat to this lineup to get some consistency out of this offense
I’m sad 😞
The ultimate issue here remains the same as it was in the offseason: Ownership. The John Stanton regime is a complete disaster. Clearly, the man is more about making as much money as he can rather than building a winner. Add in the poor management of ROOT Sports and there ya go, folks.
And about to be swept by the Pirates.😢 8 strike outs today against a starting pitcher with the lowest strike rate in MLB. 14 total for the game.
Ms had bases loaded no outs in the 9th today. Yea we know how this story goes. Zero runs. JRo strikes out to end the game with bases still loaded.
At least Ms are #1 in strike outs in MLB.
You get the same batch of winning teams and losing teams year after year. I don't know but that the owners make their money regardless. A few years ago I told somebody the Mariners will always finish as a 500 team. Its their business model.
Interesting that when were on the road (away from general management/houses/comfort area) and are alone with the manager, we look inept... multiple years of this uninspired looking baseball players, even with different players on the roster. It is a managerial issue, the core guys have obviously checked out on Servais.
Additionally, there can be something wrong with how the front office identifies players, but moreso it is interesting how guys coming off good years, come here and stink/fall off a cliff. Not like the players are hanging out with front office guys, they are hanging out with the manager and coaches.
They will beat Skenes tonight. That's how they roll. I predicted the losses to the Tigers, no way they go and score 19 runs in 3 games off of a playoff team and then go win 3 games against a sub .500 team. That, unfortunately, is just how the Mariners have always been. They win game they should not, they lose games they should not.
They lost both games to the Pirates so far.
Morning Guys … love your dialog!
So I had a thought early this AM … could the Mariners sudden “collapse” after that encouraging weekend sweep of the Mets have anything to do with the Robles extension? Because his extension announcement happened on Monday the 12th on their day off prior to facing the Tigers again.
And SINCE the announcement the Mariners have been a shell of themselves, punctuated by the 15-1 debacle on Tuesday - the day AFTER the Robles announcement.
Could the management decision to extend Robles (although justifiable based on his performance over the past two months) have ruffled the feathers of long time Mariner vets who are also anticipating extensions as well … such as Cal and others? These guys have delicate egos and something as otherwise benign as an extension to a new player may upset their fragile chemistry.
We’ll see how this all plays out in the upcoming series against Pittsburgh and the Dodgers - but if my “theory” holds true we may be limping home from this road trip in a deep hole that will likely eliminate us from playoff contention. I sure hope I’m wrong - but I’m certainly not optimistic the way this team has performed since our 10-game division lead had evaporated only a couple months prior.
The one win the Tigers blew a 3 run lead in the 9th and beat our ass 15 to 1 so I wouldn't say they beat themselves
Is Bryce little Curt Schilling?
Im 54 and have been a Mariner fan from day one and i can honestly say this is the absolute most disappointing team they have ever had. 4 absolute stud starting pitchers who have a combined salary at around 7 million, a stud catcher making less than a mill and yet they go cost cutting. This shouldve been theyre year. This starting staff is equivalent to paying Mahomes on his rookie contract. I know Dipoto was cash strapped but instead of getting 2 stud players, got 4 bandaids to patch holes and expected a 23 year old kid to carry the offense with nobody that even puts a little scare into an opposing pitcher. Makes no sense its s joke snd way to much pressure on this kid....Servais why dont u play more small ball BUNT, HIT AND RUN...why r u always waiting on the long ball? This analictic crap is playing to much into his decisions, players constantly moving up an down the lineup is a joke...i played from little League to high A ball and i knew who i was as a hitter and where i would be best in a lineup. Bsck in the day we knew the lineup every day. Analytics cant decifer certain things like adrenaline how a player felt that day etc. what happened to the great mansgers who managed baseball on feel, smarts, and wisdom? Why cant we get an owner whos a true diehard fan whi wants to win instead of making a million when hes a billionare. Us fans deserve more. Weve bucked up to get the stadium weve bucked up to fill it. Wow...on evey level the Mariners are the wirst franchise ever in North American history its a joke!!! DONE PAYING EXFINITY DONE PAYING THE OUTRAGEOUS FEES TO WATCH A GAME AT THE BALLPARK ...DONE OERIOD AND I HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN TO SAY ALLI WANTED TO SAY...NDONE
12:11 sabes
I have good news. The mariners will end the roller coaster after the regular season
Bring back Lou...40 games Sweet Lou i know u got it in ya!!!!
This is what it's like to root for protagonists in lieu of competitors.
"Part of the Ship, part of the Dumpster Fire Crew" -.-
Seattle must have new ownership, new General Manager and new coach, or the losing will continue.
13 more losses till 90 wins is gone...its go time and it starts tomorrow. They have to get a win against skenes as hard as thats going to be..
Showalter!
Or at least replace SS's decision making w analytics.
Time to bring back Rey Quinones
Domingo Ramos?
This team is so painful to watch it feels like torture to put on the games every single day. I do not envy yall having to speak on this shit show
Team has quit on servais
This is what happens when the guy in charge of your team thinks he can win a world series while leaning on pitching only team is way too unbalanced cant win if ya cant score
Might as well being up cole young and Harry ford
"If they make it to the ALCS are we gonna care what they looked like through August?"
When I first became a fan and for the first idk 5 years, I would agree that nah maybe I dont care as much.
Its been over a decade. I dont care about the playoffs at all anymore. I just wanna enjoy a baseball season. Who cares what it looks like for the last 5% when for 95% of the regular season in recent memory is just... WTF
The thing that really just makes me sad. Is this starting rotation is good enough to win us the World Series if we could just make the fucking playoffs and at least have some sort of usable offense even the next team we’re playing Pittsburgh has been losing like crazy at least they are trying and fighting. Every game is close if they knew how to actually close games they would have a better record then the Mariners right now.
How does every player that is decent elsewhere come here and poop the bed? It has to be something with this organization that takes decent players and turns them into dog shit. Cool, you can develop pitching, but if you can't even manage to get their bats to hit average, wtf does it matter? They think they can bring in Turner and get him to help teach the younger guys to hit gmafb
Yeah I'm so tired of it too it's been nearly 50 yrs of this. It's embarrassing.
Should Mariners blow up the team and start over ?? Not enough talent on offense and owner will not spend enough money to bring in Big free agent like Vlad Guerrero or someone like that