really happy that you found a friend who stuck with you even when there was obviously something unknown happening to you back in highschool. sounds like a great friend. ❤
The fact that you can't feel comfortable showing friends because of weirdos is so upsetting (not just specifically you guys but more a general thing where the internet takes something and turns into something awful)
I have to make another comment because I freaking LOVE Mike! "Nah mate, was the child abuse." I shouldn't have laughed, but Mike makes light of things like that and that's why I adore him. Never change, Mike. Never change.
I haven’t heard from/about Nadia in so long, hearing her spoken of in the past tense is kinda jarring. “She was sunshine is human form” is such a heartbreaking phrase. I’m assuming she doesn’t exists in the same way anymore. Didn’t expect to miss a person I have never met, but here we are.
Yeah, she split due to what happened to them in 2020, if I remember correctly. Nadia was the social alter, and a lot of their trauma from that period revolved around betrayal from friends. There might be other things I've forgotten contributing to it. But, she split and became Seer (who kept the role of spiritual protector) and the Wraith. The Wraith stands in Nadia's field, but now it's always night instead of day. Again, if I remember correctly. It's the image I kept from that video about Nadia splitting.
@Hayden-rc1ru it truly breaks my heart that because nadia was indigenous, people bullied her for that because she was in a white body. seer now practices specifically european/english spirituality in order to avoid this criticism from others. nadia deserved better, but at least seer can make the most of it :(
It's so sweet to see you interact with someone who seems like a true friend. He obviously cares a great deal for you and it's such a wonderful thing to have a friend like that.
I first discovered my DID in high school and really struggled with a social life and friends because of it. Your videos have given me so much and I’ve learned so much from you guys. We’re truly so appreciative
When I was in high school (which was like almost 20 yrs ago omg), DID wasn't a thing that was talked about ever, so at 15-16 when I was having tons of blackouts but I would still be doing things, I had no idea what was going on with me. I mean, I had dealt with them before and even lost my entire 2nd grade year but they were happening WAY more often. I had one friend who would "switch" between these characters, looking back I didn't know if she really was or not, doesn't matter, but it made me feel so much more comfortable that I started switching unknowingly in front of her because I was so comfortable around her. If it wasn't for her, I don't think I would have become as aware of my system as I did. I wish I still knew her now so I could tell her how grateful I am for her being there when I didn't know I needed it. Sorry for rambling, this just brought back a lot of memories.
My friends were OBSESSED with doing the rib shock. They’d make fun of me for having a low pain tolerance. It turns out that it was my first symptom of fibromyalgia. They also enjoyed scaring me because of my reactions too, but those were due to trauma. Why are friends like this in high school? SO glad to be out
I guess teenage years are just shameful and awkward for everyone and as social animals we want to be all touchy and whatnot but society doesn't have a healthy example for us to follow
I had it done to me while having a broken rib. I'm usually pretty quiet and non confrontational, but this time I spoke my mind. The person tried to dismiss it instead of saying sorry, I doubled down on him. As far as I recall he never touched me again. Also I was an adult at the time (so was he). Somehow it unlocked a switch in my mind that if I don't want to be touched in a way, I can say so. Even if I am not hurt to begin with. Broke up with a guy who had a similar behaviour thanks to that.
Omg me as well. I have really really bad Fibro symptoms at this point and now looking back at it.... My ribs are still tender and sensitive to EVERYTHING and these people were just stabbing me in them constantly with their fingers. I can almost feel it just thinking about it...
It's really awesome that your friend knows enough about you then and now to be able to make an educated guess about what was going on to make you act in a certain way. This person seems really awesome, and I'm glad you're still comfortable around them :) long-term friends are really valuable, and I'm glad that you have them
I am loving this new style of video. They’re so chilled and relaxing (especially the music in the back) that it feels very safe to watch. Your friend seems like a really nice person :)
"if someone is continuing to do stuff that's activity hurting you, regardless of how many times you've asked them to stop that is- ..." ouch, I wish I could've heard that in my high school years.
as a nuerotypical learning about DID is so new to me,it feels so unreal like as if i am a 2D being grasping the idea of 3D. Thank you for this, it really helped me understand what you are going through from the lens of an observer!
I’m glad you have someone positive from back then that is still with you! Some of those experiences shake me up just listening to them. I can’t even imagine what it must have been like for you and your system! 🫶 wishing you all the best!
“friend” seems so nice!!! they’re really good at looking back and understanding things with the new context, and your friendship is seriously adorable! also, you were both kids, neither of you were responsible for helping each other, or what happened. HAVE A GOOD DAY!!!!!
The mentions of Nadia felt so bittersweet. She's still around even if she isn't. I remember Kya once said that Nadia was the main point of contention between them and Mara II, and since the two fused to become Soren, I'd love to know more about how that process of forgiveness came about. If it's not too personal, obviously. Edit: Fixed a pronoun.
I love how loving and empathetic the "it wasn't your responsibility to be there" was, because when people with authority fails you, you still know that is not your peers job to be there to bare the responsibility of those who can't or refuse to meet your needs. I'll carry that phrase in my heart, because I've been the one saying "I wish I could have been there for you better", almost as if I could have changed the outcome... Thank you for this video, thank you for your bravery and for sharing a part of your life that's so very loving as a friend is 🩵
People deserve privacy 💯 and I'm sorry that wasn't respected..but ty for sharing this with us! I learn so much from you all. also love that Pumpkin pillow! 🎃
It's so nice to see you have such a good irl friend that's been with you for so long. Brings me comfort to know you have someone like him to be there for you when things get rough, and that you have such a good, close bond 🖤
It must have been really validating to hear somebody that cares about you noticed your responses especially since there's so many weirdos obsessed with picking apart your story and fakeclaiming you.
This video really opened my eyes to the horrors young Chloe went through, I hope those people who hurt her got the punishment they deserve. I remember seeing her like the golden hour sunshine, warm and pleasant, while Nadia was a brighter version, I smiled when you guys mentioned that she was like a ray of sun because that's also how I used to call her, on the other hand, I'm kind of glad Chloe had Ruby as her protector even if she couldn't do much againts your aggressors, I'm sure she tried her best to keep the baby system safe
Our best friend is the only person who believes that we’re very likely an OSDD system (not diagnosed yet but it’s suspected). They know when we’re switching before we even so sometimes. It’s truly fascinating to hear how loved ones view us as a system.
hearing the stories of someone who can remember these moments is honestly such an interesting thing to listen to. Then putting the puzzle together with the knowledge that you know now, im like mesmerized and absorbing it all. great video idea!! thank you both for sharing these experiences!
Hello! I never really comment but I just wanted to say I've followed your content for a few years and you've taught me (along with many others) so much about DID. I love your videos and I hope you have a good day!
It was bittersweet to hear your friend share their experience of Nadia. She really was sunshine in human form. I'd love to learn more about the experience of loss around having an alter integrate. I'm sure it's hard on the system and others in your life who had built a relationship with the alter. Really enlightening video! I'm glad you guys had such a supportive friend during that difficult time in your life!
@@rongike So you think it's okay to misgender him because he's an alter? Also, as the lovely person above my original reply mentioned, Nadia split into Seer and the Wraith, so Soren cannot 'channel her.' /nm
Someone else commented something that I also felt - that this video was both heartbreaking and heartwarming. I am so sorry you were failed and hurt by the adults in your life. What a gem of a friend Mr. Nameless is. I really felt that last bit when you said that your friend made things more bearable. During my own school years, my friends were what kept me going.
For anyone reading the comments I would like to highlight that this type of poking and making people jump is also a type of abuse. It's very dysregulating, physically and emotionally stressful and is a form of trauma also.
I would remember going to school and the next memory is when I head back home with no memory in between 😂 I wish I know more what we were like in those years if one day we can tell our friends about our system. This is really nice, thank you as always.
This is so interesting to hear a friend's perspectives of what undiagnosed DID can look like as a teen. I wish I was still in contact with my school friends to ask similar questions. I know I'm missing a lot of memories from primary and secondary school. Thank you to you and your friend for speaking about this. It's clearly been helpful for you, Soren, and I'm sure it's helpful for many of us watching too. Your friend seems so kind and caring, I'm so glad to see and hear that you have such a supportive friend still in your life. Lots of love to you guys x
Quite the opener for such a deep conversation💀lmao. He seems like a lovely fella, I’m glad not everyone in your life back then was a total shithead. It’s wild to think about how autonomously a lot of you guys’ defense mechanisms took place, which I suppose is the point, but it definitely makes me think about my own and those of some of my old friends. Overall, I loved watching this talk, I’m sure any systems that watch can definitely glean some insight, or at the very least relate lol. Thank you to your friend, I’d be glad to hear more from him in some future videos if he wants. I’m glad yall are out of school, it sounds like it was quite hellish, and I say that knowing full well how shit my own school life was lol. But anyways, take care Soren and everybody, lots of love, catch ya in the next one💜!
i would honestly love to see this interview in reverse - asking a singlet questions about Their experience with identity and memory and emotion and dealing with reminders of bad memories and stress and traumatic situations that may have not caused long term post traumatic stress and issues that would significantly differ from the experience of systems this was fascinating to think about these same questions and reflect on my own experiences
also reading through these comments… christ, yeah, i forgot how shit school was and how much nonconsensual joking touch went on 😅 that was So Awful, i’m so sorry others went through that too
aww watching this and talking about Nadia made me miss her. I’ve been watching since the beginning and it’s always so lovely seeing and hearing the changes over the years and meeting Soren now, both as your own person and a melding of so many others. this was such a lovely video to watch! thank you!
That was as heatbreaking as it was heartwarming to watch. I am glad he was there for you. Even if he did not say it. I felt like he needed to hear that it was not his fault and therer was not anything more he could have done. Being a therapist friend. Is a part of who you arre
"I can't wait to taste your sausage" 😂😂😂 That startled a laugh out of me. Thank you, nameless friend! My best friend loved running up on my and jabbing me in the side cause I'd jump and squeak. It was more about being ticklish, I'm not a touch person. By the end of high school I was completely desensitized. I got her with my elbow several times, since my automatic flinching response was to throw my arms back. I have some coworkers now who startled easily. One in particular is extremely jumpy, you don't even have to try. I've spooked many of them without trying cause I walk super quiet for a tall person. This was def an interesting insight! A bit of a reminder that there can be a lot more beneath the surface that we aren't seeing.
I have a question that I've never really seen anyone ask before. Do people have to be in the front or near the front to switch? For example, I remember it being mentioned that there are forests in your inner world. Could you be in the forest and suddenly find yourself back in the body? Any systems in the comments can answer this.
I wasn't expecting this video to trigger me, but it did. I don't have DID or PTSD, just childhood trauma that I used to very successfully mask for years. Your experience made me feel so seen, even though it is at a much bigger extent to mine, and I have to thank you for sharing and wish you to heal from the pain 🙏🌷
When I told my brother I had DID, he had almost no reaction. The first thing he said was, “Yeah, that makes sense. Was I just supposed to ignore all those times you had a weird accent?” My friends definitely noticed the “different behavior around abusers” thing. I was a very different person when I was at school or at a friend’s house than when we hung out at my house. Even if I was on a video call with my friends, I was acting differently. I also never offered to hang out at my house. I think they only came over about four times in all the time we’ve been friends (several years).
Hi! We’re a self-diagnosed OSDD system (we’re currently unable to get a professional diagnosis, but we hope to someday get one) And we just wanted you to know that you’re our hero. It’s been really hard figuring out that we’re a multiple and at first, we wanted to give up. But then, a couple of years ago, we discovered your channel. For the first time, we felt that we were finally being heard, and that someone finally understood what we were going through. No matter what life throws at you guys, you always get back on your feet and continue on, which has inspired us and helped us along in our own journey. You all mean so much to us, and we don’t know if we could thank you enough for what you and your channel have done for us, whether you realize the impact it’s had on our life or not. So again, thank you so so much for doing what you do. Just know that what you do with your channel means a lot. You guys are super cool and awesome, and we look forward to seeing what you do next!
Even now as an adult, when my husband (who I live with and love very much and he is very kind and gentle with me and understanding of my trauma) walks around the house or even within the room *that I consciously know he's in with me* I still get SUCH a strong jump scare that I yell loudly, crumple to the floor, and cry/laugh (oscillating between the two) in shock. My heart races so much I worry I'll one day have a heart attack. Sometimes this happens 2-3 times within a 15-minute period. C-PTSD is no joke. (And this is after my husband has made multiple adjustments to try to make his moving around or coming into a room more obvious/not take me by surprise, etc.) So I completely understand so many of the behaviours you and your friend described! Including keeping an eye on the exits, trying not to give any reactions to abusers + abusive people (this is why I taught myself not to be ticklish, show pain/reaction with rib poking, even cry with a completely straight face without tears or sound. ✌(Hi, I'm a robot, I come in peace) 🖖 So ACTUALLY me having such a strong, audible, visible response to being surprised to seeing my husband walking about the house is -- perhaps counterintuitively -- shows how comfortable I am with him and how much I'm healing, because it shows I can exhibit behaviours and emotions and reactions around him. Sending you and your friend so much love and appreciation for taking the time to make this video! Thank you (:
I've been so hyped for this video!!! I hope you guys are doing better now❤I'm very happy we get a long video, it's very interesting and it is lovely to see you smiling with your friend. He actually reminds me of some of my friends too😂
Can tell they are a good friend as they are doing this completely anonymous expecting nothing not clout chasing or wanting their 5 mins of fame and your a good friends for keeping them anonymous for their safety and expressing this concern to begin with and working to keep then as safe as possible
I think this video could be helpful for anyone working with children and teens to know what sort of signs to watch out for. It's tragic how such heavy trauma goes unseen for so long. We all deserve to be seen. And I hope those of us working with children can use this to open up as much as possible to all signs of distress and to be the people who do notice and do see when something is not right.
this was such a fascinating perspective! I'm so glad this was able to offer you some insight to your past. I don't have DID, but I do have PTSD. I struggle with derealization/depersonalization, and generally have not the best memory. I can relate to a lot of what you said, but at the same time, I can't imagine how valuable this information was for you guys.
Thank you for this, this is the 1st video we have seen of your's and immediately sent to our best friend to see what she noticed from high-school. We Are a newly known system (2-3year) in therapy waiting for proper testing. Your video's are so soothing for us and informative, ones we can share with family so they can start to understand better themselves along with us understanding our parts and what roles they play. Thank you thank you thank you!!! 🫶💜
I've been watching for years and it was very interesting to hear someone talk about your younger years, especially before you were really aware of your DID. Thank you for how informative your videos are
I don't have DID. But I heavily relate. Being undiagnosed with autistic and ocd, living in an anti therapy household, it created a lot of the same responses. I'm glad you're out of that situation. It's so freeing being away from it
There's so many times in this video where its clear how supportive this friend is and was! Thankyou for bringing us along for this very interesting chat.
We've seen so much of the body going through such awful hard times, it's truly a delight to see yous interacting to happily and comfortably with another person 🥲
I’m very glad u have such a supportive friend! I’m glad u guys did this! My significant other has undiagnosed DID and I want to be able to be as supportive as possible to them. So I can relate a lot to this friend!! I hope you both have a lovely week!
This is such a weirdly emotional video to me. There's something about reminiscing about dark times with someone you've reconnected (or maintained a connection) with that is very bitter-sweet, melancholic but also hopeful for some reason. Remembering the bad stuff, but also the little moments when the sunshine was able to shine through the clouds... The stories about you hanging out outside of school and on the grass patch really touched me. I'm so happy for you! That y'all were able to keep such a good friend from that time. It's important to notice and celebrate the good things in life, the people that make you happy and that really care about you. Cheers DissociaDID! ❤❤❤
I do not have DID, but I do dissociate a lot, much less today than I was younger. People used to say I am in my own world a lot, because I used to just stare into nothing for a while, and I would barely remember anything, it can also take an hour or 2 where I am just staring and empty, and sometimes when I walk from point A to point B I would not remember the travel, I would just dissociate. I had a traumatic life, but not to the extent to DID, but it was big trauma. I dissociate when triggered. I am happy today, though, 2 kids and a fiance.
So lovely to see that there are some friends who have stuck with you through all of this chaos life has tossed your way. It's wonderful watching someone make you laugh :]
I knew my partner in highschool and we started dating before he found out he has DID. It's so interesting talking to him about highschool because I will bring up a memory or something and he will say "that wasn't me, that was *incert name here" over the past year I have figured out and pieced together a lot of highschool memories and now know who I was with, why he was acting certain ways, ect.
This was such an interesting video! As a long time viewer (and singlet), it's so interesting to get a perspective on some things you have talked about from someone else. It's also interesting just to see you interacting with other people normally, as most of the videos were obviously just you talking to the camera. I'm glad you had some lovely people who stood up for you.
Your guys’ videos are great for anyone coping with childhood traumas you are able speak so clearly and calmly. And I think hearing your friend’s perspective is really unique and beautiful. I appreciate your guys’ videos a lot keep safe my friends
I have a creepy coworker who genuinely ENJOYS startling people specifically girls and I believe this is a sexual thing disguised as something innocent when it isn't. I'm the only one who had the balls to lay down a boundary and put him in his place real quick. I was very clear and told him we can joke around and be silly but you aren't gonna do that to me, i have a heightened sense of fight or flight and it actually feels painful and extreme for me and it's bad for my health. He didn't do it to me for about 9 months but did to everyone else. Grabbing them, popping out from places, hiding, ect. Then he did it to me again and I had to put him in line once again and tell him he's not gonna do that to me, it makes me extremely uncomfortable and I'm not gonna feel that way. It's genuinely bad for my health or anyone who has hyperaroused sensations. It feels totally different in my body than an average person. It takes a long time to come down from. I always found it creepy how many people specifically dudes in high school loved grabbing that rib cage area as an excuse to touch girls when they didnt ask for it
You have a very good friend there, I wish I had a friend like that in high school. I'm glad you had someone like that to help you a bit through high school and be there years later to tell you about his perspective 💙
As someone with the fawn and freeze response, I was wondering if you could maybe at some point talk about how to deal with the guilt and shame, feeling like everything bad that's happened is your fault even if it may not be? Thank you for making this video, you guys are amazing and you have a really great friend!! 💜
I really enjoyed this video and the interactions within. I wish we could see your friend, but I understand. I would love to see more videos of you chatting with friends and their experiences of witnessed your DID either knowingly or unknowingly
Don’t u just hate it when your friends don’t have a name. Happens to the best of us…
Truly tragic
Makes us immune to the fae tho
@@neurodivergentlilyso true, what a superpower if you think about it
@@neurodivergentlily what makes you think his name wasn't taken by the fae?
@@emahabara1215people don’t typically survive a fae encounter and stay “normal”
really happy that you found a friend who stuck with you even when there was obviously something unknown happening to you back in highschool. sounds like a great friend. ❤
He sounds like a 1 of a kind, fantastic friend
The fact that you can't feel comfortable showing friends because of weirdos is so upsetting (not just specifically you guys but more a general thing where the internet takes something and turns into something awful)
its not just that, it also that hes not a public person.probably he also doesn want the whole internet to know hes been trough it
Just reality
Well thats not an internet thing its a fame thing..
@@bxbydrxgxnNo, it's definitely an internet thing, lol
That's what I was gonna say!
I'm glad you have a supportive friend
So are we!
I have to make another comment because I freaking LOVE Mike! "Nah mate, was the child abuse." I shouldn't have laughed, but Mike makes light of things like that and that's why I adore him. Never change, Mike. Never change.
I haven’t heard from/about Nadia in so long, hearing her spoken of in the past tense is kinda jarring. “She was sunshine is human form” is such a heartbreaking phrase.
I’m assuming she doesn’t exists in the same way anymore. Didn’t expect to miss a person I have never met, but here we are.
There is a video from about 2 years ago where Kya goes over that Nadia was traumatized and split in to 2 new alters.
@@RoanLee0408 Dang, I must have either missed that or blocked it out.
@JoTheAnomaly luckily now they have maeri, who is similarly joyful and can help the body enjoy the simple things similar to how nadia did :)
Yeah, she split due to what happened to them in 2020, if I remember correctly. Nadia was the social alter, and a lot of their trauma from that period revolved around betrayal from friends. There might be other things I've forgotten contributing to it. But, she split and became Seer (who kept the role of spiritual protector) and the Wraith. The Wraith stands in Nadia's field, but now it's always night instead of day. Again, if I remember correctly. It's the image I kept from that video about Nadia splitting.
@Hayden-rc1ru it truly breaks my heart that because nadia was indigenous, people bullied her for that because she was in a white body. seer now practices specifically european/english spirituality in order to avoid this criticism from others. nadia deserved better, but at least seer can make the most of it :(
"I don't think you have to be sorry, do you?" was so gentle and healing.
Oh my gosh we seriously must have the exact same feed - I see you everywhere! Well on Chosen Family/Alayna/WHGS videos, and now here
@@zazajf Hi! That's cool. I think I might recognise your name, too 🤔
It's so sweet to see you interact with someone who seems like a true friend. He obviously cares a great deal for you and it's such a wonderful thing to have a friend like that.
ah yes my favorite DissociaDID guest, Nameless Namelessman
I first discovered my DID in high school and really struggled with a social life and friends because of it. Your videos have given me so much and I’ve learned so much from you guys. We’re truly so appreciative
❤️❤️❤️❤️ I'm so glad we helped 😊
When I was in high school (which was like almost 20 yrs ago omg), DID wasn't a thing that was talked about ever, so at 15-16 when I was having tons of blackouts but I would still be doing things, I had no idea what was going on with me. I mean, I had dealt with them before and even lost my entire 2nd grade year but they were happening WAY more often.
I had one friend who would "switch" between these characters, looking back I didn't know if she really was or not, doesn't matter, but it made me feel so much more comfortable that I started switching unknowingly in front of her because I was so comfortable around her. If it wasn't for her, I don't think I would have become as aware of my system as I did. I wish I still knew her now so I could tell her how grateful I am for her being there when I didn't know I needed it. Sorry for rambling, this just brought back a lot of memories.
My friends were OBSESSED with doing the rib shock. They’d make fun of me for having a low pain tolerance. It turns out that it was my first symptom of fibromyalgia. They also enjoyed scaring me because of my reactions too, but those were due to trauma. Why are friends like this in high school? SO glad to be out
I guess teenage years are just shameful and awkward for everyone and as social animals we want to be all touchy and whatnot but society doesn't have a healthy example for us to follow
@@rongikeI disagree depends who your friends are
@@sparklight0964 disagree with what and what about your friends?
I had it done to me while having a broken rib. I'm usually pretty quiet and non confrontational, but this time I spoke my mind. The person tried to dismiss it instead of saying sorry, I doubled down on him. As far as I recall he never touched me again. Also I was an adult at the time (so was he).
Somehow it unlocked a switch in my mind that if I don't want to be touched in a way, I can say so. Even if I am not hurt to begin with.
Broke up with a guy who had a similar behaviour thanks to that.
Omg me as well. I have really really bad Fibro symptoms at this point and now looking back at it....
My ribs are still tender and sensitive to EVERYTHING and these people were just stabbing me in them constantly with their fingers. I can almost feel it just thinking about it...
It's really awesome that your friend knows enough about you then and now to be able to make an educated guess about what was going on to make you act in a certain way. This person seems really awesome, and I'm glad you're still comfortable around them :) long-term friends are really valuable, and I'm glad that you have them
I am loving this new style of video. They’re so chilled and relaxing (especially the music in the back) that it feels very safe to watch. Your friend seems like a really nice person :)
I totally agree! It felt as if I was right there with them just casually hanging out.
I know, I love watching videos of people talking to each other!
"It wasn't your responsibility."
There's always something profoundly healing to be found in these videos.
"no one paid attention to you" that is a real friend right there speaking facts. i relate to that haha
Your nameless friend is so nice. I glad you had someone like that.
"if someone is continuing to do stuff that's activity hurting you, regardless of how many times you've asked them to stop that is- ..." ouch, I wish I could've heard that in my high school years.
The outfit and hair combo is slaying🔥🔥🔥
It‘s giving gay vampire ✨
@blue-uv4mh, that's assuming all vampires aren't gay. I've never seen a vampire that doesn't exude bisexual energy
@@the_great_forest lol true xD
@@the_great_forest underrated comment!
Im so thankful for my friend who knew i had DID before i did, because when i went through the diagnosis, she was my rock through it all
Accidentally clicked on the notification when it popped up 😂 but I was excited for this video so I’m not upset lol
A win is a win!
as a nuerotypical learning about DID is so new to me,it feels so unreal like as if i am a 2D being grasping the idea of 3D. Thank you for this, it really helped me understand what you are going through from the lens of an observer!
It certainly feels like our brain works in 3D compared to 2D, thanks for that analogy! 😅 -Pan & Aris
I’m glad you have someone positive from back then that is still with you! Some of those experiences shake me up just listening to them. I can’t even imagine what it must have been like for you and your system! 🫶 wishing you all the best!
Thank you! Wishing you the best too!
30:20 "if you're acting as a therapist friend, who's doing that for you?" My heart melts after hearing this 🥺
“friend” seems so nice!!! they’re really good at looking back and understanding things with the new context, and your friendship is seriously adorable! also, you were both kids, neither of you were responsible for helping each other, or what happened. HAVE A GOOD DAY!!!!!
it's a man not a they.
HELLO NAME-LESS FRIEND WE ALL SAY IN UNISON 🙏🙏‼️‼️
The mentions of Nadia felt so bittersweet. She's still around even if she isn't. I remember Kya once said that Nadia was the main point of contention between them and Mara II, and since the two fused to become Soren, I'd love to know more about how that process of forgiveness came about. If it's not too personal, obviously. Edit: Fixed a pronoun.
I love how loving and empathetic the "it wasn't your responsibility to be there" was, because when people with authority fails you, you still know that is not your peers job to be there to bare the responsibility of those who can't or refuse to meet your needs.
I'll carry that phrase in my heart, because I've been the one saying "I wish I could have been there for you better", almost as if I could have changed the outcome...
Thank you for this video, thank you for your bravery and for sharing a part of your life that's so very loving as a friend is 🩵
People deserve privacy 💯 and I'm sorry that wasn't respected..but ty for sharing this with us! I learn so much from you all. also love that Pumpkin pillow! 🎃
It's so nice to see you have such a good irl friend that's been with you for so long. Brings me comfort to know you have someone like him to be there for you when things get rough, and that you have such a good, close bond 🖤
Your friend has IMPECCABLE memory. I could never!! I loved this video 🌸✨ Thank you for sharing it with us
He's always been incredibly observant, definitely helpful for us! 😂
Your style (Hair, makeup, and clothes) is sophisticated also. I appreciate you protecting your friends. Love from California.🎉❤
It must have been really validating to hear somebody that cares about you noticed your responses especially since there's so many weirdos obsessed with picking apart your story and fakeclaiming you.
I loved this and I truly wish this was a longer video lol.
We cut it down from over an hour of raw footage!
This video really opened my eyes to the horrors young Chloe went through, I hope those people who hurt her got the punishment they deserve. I remember seeing her like the golden hour sunshine, warm and pleasant, while Nadia was a brighter version, I smiled when you guys mentioned that she was like a ray of sun because that's also how I used to call her, on the other hand, I'm kind of glad Chloe had Ruby as her protector even if she couldn't do much againts your aggressors, I'm sure she tried her best to keep the baby system safe
Our best friend is the only person who believes that we’re very likely an OSDD system (not diagnosed yet but it’s suspected). They know when we’re switching before we even so sometimes. It’s truly fascinating to hear how loved ones view us as a system.
hearing the stories of someone who can remember these moments is honestly such an interesting thing to listen to. Then putting the puzzle together with the knowledge that you know now, im like mesmerized and absorbing it all. great video idea!! thank you both for sharing these experiences!
Wow seeing you all interact with a friend you feel comfortable with is so cool. I love seeing you laugh so freely ❤
13:02 "I thought so" warmed my heaaart
The other day he told me can tell when Mike is close from our laugh
It's so nice to see you just hanging out with someone you are comfortable with! It's really nice to see you socializing in a way you feel safe.
It's genuinely shocking how much we relate to almost all of this. This video made me way too self-aware😭
Hello! I never really comment but I just wanted to say I've followed your content for a few years and you've taught me (along with many others) so much about DID. I love your videos and I hope you have a good day!
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Aah, I'm on a train so I can't watch right now, but I'll watch as soon as I'm home, so looking forward to this!
Travel safe!
@@DissociaDID Thank you!
@@DissociaDID Watched it now. Gosh, I miss Nadia. She really was a ray of sunshine.
It was bittersweet to hear your friend share their experience of Nadia. She really was sunshine in human form. I'd love to learn more about the experience of loss around having an alter integrate. I'm sure it's hard on the system and others in your life who had built a relationship with the alter.
Really enlightening video! I'm glad you guys had such a supportive friend during that difficult time in your life!
she's one soul, Nadia is still there, she could channel Nadia for us if she wanted to.
Nadia didn't integrate, just to clarify, she split into Seer and the Wraith.
@@rongike Soren uses he/him.
@@michaelinthebathroom7560 that's an inner personality, she doesn't deny her biological reality or wish to change it.
@@rongike So you think it's okay to misgender him because he's an alter? Also, as the lovely person above my original reply mentioned, Nadia split into Seer and the Wraith, so Soren cannot 'channel her.' /nm
Someone else commented something that I also felt - that this video was both heartbreaking and heartwarming. I am so sorry you were failed and hurt by the adults in your life. What a gem of a friend Mr. Nameless is. I really felt that last bit when you said that your friend made things more bearable. During my own school years, my friends were what kept me going.
For anyone reading the comments I would like to highlight that this type of poking and making people jump is also a type of abuse. It's very dysregulating, physically and emotionally stressful and is a form of trauma also.
Yes I agree
I would remember going to school and the next memory is when I head back home with no memory in between 😂 I wish I know more what we were like in those years if one day we can tell our friends about our system. This is really nice, thank you as always.
My friend from hs said "its like you were a different person every day" but when i came out to him as a system he was like "nah, thats not possible"
This is so interesting to hear a friend's perspectives of what undiagnosed DID can look like as a teen. I wish I was still in contact with my school friends to ask similar questions. I know I'm missing a lot of memories from primary and secondary school. Thank you to you and your friend for speaking about this. It's clearly been helpful for you, Soren, and I'm sure it's helpful for many of us watching too. Your friend seems so kind and caring, I'm so glad to see and hear that you have such a supportive friend still in your life. Lots of love to you guys x
I feel so safe and cozy listening to you two
Quite the opener for such a deep conversation💀lmao. He seems like a lovely fella, I’m glad not everyone in your life back then was a total shithead. It’s wild to think about how autonomously a lot of you guys’ defense mechanisms took place, which I suppose is the point, but it definitely makes me think about my own and those of some of my old friends. Overall, I loved watching this talk, I’m sure any systems that watch can definitely glean some insight, or at the very least relate lol. Thank you to your friend, I’d be glad to hear more from him in some future videos if he wants. I’m glad yall are out of school, it sounds like it was quite hellish, and I say that knowing full well how shit my own school life was lol. But anyways, take care Soren and everybody, lots of love, catch ya in the next one💜!
i would honestly love to see this interview in reverse - asking a singlet questions about Their experience with identity and memory and emotion and dealing with reminders of bad memories and stress and traumatic situations that may have not caused long term post traumatic stress and issues that would significantly differ from the experience of systems
this was fascinating to think about these same questions and reflect on my own experiences
also reading through these comments… christ, yeah, i forgot how shit school was and how much nonconsensual joking touch went on 😅 that was So Awful, i’m so sorry others went through that too
Singlet… took me a while to realise you didn’t mean the item of clothing lol
aww watching this and talking about Nadia made me miss her. I’ve been watching since the beginning and it’s always so lovely seeing and hearing the changes over the years and meeting Soren now, both as your own person and a melding of so many others. this was such a lovely video to watch! thank you!
That was as heatbreaking as it was heartwarming to watch. I am glad he was there for you. Even if he did not say it. I felt like he needed to hear that it was not his fault and therer was not anything more he could have done. Being a therapist friend. Is a part of who you arre
"I can't wait to taste your sausage" 😂😂😂
That startled a laugh out of me. Thank you, nameless friend!
My best friend loved running up on my and jabbing me in the side cause I'd jump and squeak. It was more about being ticklish, I'm not a touch person. By the end of high school I was completely desensitized. I got her with my elbow several times, since my automatic flinching response was to throw my arms back.
I have some coworkers now who startled easily. One in particular is extremely jumpy, you don't even have to try. I've spooked many of them without trying cause I walk super quiet for a tall person.
This was def an interesting insight! A bit of a reminder that there can be a lot more beneath the surface that we aren't seeing.
I have a question that I've never really seen anyone ask before. Do people have to be in the front or near the front to switch? For example, I remember it being mentioned that there are forests in your inner world. Could you be in the forest and suddenly find yourself back in the body? Any systems in the comments can answer this.
Yes that's possible!
I wasn't expecting this video to trigger me, but it did. I don't have DID or PTSD, just childhood trauma that I used to very successfully mask for years. Your experience made me feel so seen, even though it is at a much bigger extent to mine, and I have to thank you for sharing and wish you to heal from the pain 🙏🌷
When I told my brother I had DID, he had almost no reaction. The first thing he said was, “Yeah, that makes sense. Was I just supposed to ignore all those times you had a weird accent?”
My friends definitely noticed the “different behavior around abusers” thing. I was a very different person when I was at school or at a friend’s house than when we hung out at my house. Even if I was on a video call with my friends, I was acting differently. I also never offered to hang out at my house. I think they only came over about four times in all the time we’ve been friends (several years).
Hi! We’re a self-diagnosed OSDD system (we’re currently unable to get a professional diagnosis, but we hope to someday get one) And we just wanted you to know that you’re our hero. It’s been really hard figuring out that we’re a multiple and at first, we wanted to give up. But then, a couple of years ago, we discovered your channel. For the first time, we felt that we were finally being heard, and that someone finally understood what we were going through. No matter what life throws at you guys, you always get back on your feet and continue on, which has inspired us and helped us along in our own journey. You all mean so much to us, and we don’t know if we could thank you enough for what you and your channel have done for us, whether you realize the impact it’s had on our life or not. So again, thank you so so much for doing what you do. Just know that what you do with your channel means a lot. You guys are super cool and awesome, and we look forward to seeing what you do next!
Even now as an adult, when my husband (who I live with and love very much and he is very kind and gentle with me and understanding of my trauma) walks around the house or even within the room *that I consciously know he's in with me* I still get SUCH a strong jump scare that I yell loudly, crumple to the floor, and cry/laugh (oscillating between the two) in shock. My heart races so much I worry I'll one day have a heart attack. Sometimes this happens 2-3 times within a 15-minute period. C-PTSD is no joke.
(And this is after my husband has made multiple adjustments to try to make his moving around or coming into a room more obvious/not take me by surprise, etc.)
So I completely understand so many of the behaviours you and your friend described! Including keeping an eye on the exits, trying not to give any reactions to abusers + abusive people (this is why I taught myself not to be ticklish, show pain/reaction with rib poking, even cry with a completely straight face without tears or sound. ✌(Hi, I'm a robot, I come in peace) 🖖
So ACTUALLY me having such a strong, audible, visible response to being surprised to seeing my husband walking about the house is -- perhaps counterintuitively -- shows how comfortable I am with him and how much I'm healing, because it shows I can exhibit behaviours and emotions and reactions around him.
Sending you and your friend so much love and appreciation for taking the time to make this video! Thank you (:
Off topic but I absolutely adore your blouse
seconding this, that’s exactly my style and it’s Stunning -🤍
Thank you, it's Sally's!
Ah love Sally 😍
I've been so hyped for this video!!! I hope you guys are doing better now❤I'm very happy we get a long video, it's very interesting and it is lovely to see you smiling with your friend. He actually reminds me of some of my friends too😂
it could be so interesting to watch alters take personality tests (mbti/ ennegram) and see how they differ!
I know the alters have taken personality tests before but it was a long time ago so it would be cool if they did it again with the new alters!
Can tell they are a good friend as they are doing this completely anonymous expecting nothing not clout chasing or wanting their 5 mins of fame and your a good friends for keeping them anonymous for their safety and expressing this concern to begin with and working to keep then as safe as possible
Okay I LOVE the nameless friend he sounds absolutely wonderful. What an icon, what a star
I think this video could be helpful for anyone working with children and teens to know what sort of signs to watch out for. It's tragic how such heavy trauma goes unseen for so long. We all deserve to be seen. And I hope those of us working with children can use this to open up as much as possible to all signs of distress and to be the people who do notice and do see when something is not right.
Its nice to see you interact who can tell has known you for a long time and is a good friend
The fact that MULTIPLE people from that school ended up in prison… not just one, which would be bad enough, but MULTIPLE!!! people… JEEEEZ.
I have been watching you for years. I finally got diagnosed with DID about a month ago and your videos have been helping me make sense of it
You've got this, friends ! :) -Aris & Pan
this was such a fascinating perspective! I'm so glad this was able to offer you some insight to your past. I don't have DID, but I do have PTSD. I struggle with derealization/depersonalization, and generally have not the best memory. I can relate to a lot of what you said, but at the same time, I can't imagine how valuable this information was for you guys.
Your friendship is so beautiful. I teared up a few times in the way ya'll responded to each other. Such an empathetic and sweet friendship.
You seem genuinely happy in this video. Your eyes reflect pure joy when talking to your friend. Enjoyed this intimate conversation very much!
Thank you for this, this is the 1st video we have seen of your's and immediately sent to our best friend to see what she noticed from high-school. We Are a newly known system (2-3year) in therapy waiting for proper testing. Your video's are so soothing for us and informative, ones we can share with family so they can start to understand better themselves along with us understanding our parts and what roles they play. Thank you thank you thank you!!! 🫶💜
I've been watching for years and it was very interesting to hear someone talk about your younger years, especially before you were really aware of your DID. Thank you for how informative your videos are
could you make the text easier to read? i just thought the white text on the white background was quite hard to make out. sorry! i love your vids x
Yes sorry! We will keep this in mind!
@@DissociaDIDI found the cursive font a bit hard to read :) love the video though
I don't have DID. But I heavily relate. Being undiagnosed with autistic and ocd, living in an anti therapy household, it created a lot of the same responses.
I'm glad you're out of that situation. It's so freeing being away from it
There's so many times in this video where its clear how supportive this friend is and was! Thankyou for bringing us along for this very interesting chat.
it’s so scary to think about how horrible things could be happening to people right next to us and we would never know or just not notice
I actually loved hearing about his side of things. I love learning more and im so appreciative that you share this with us ❤️
I love your fit so much. It’s give Victorian child.
HAHA thank you it's Sally's shirt 😂
@@DissociaDIDshe has impeccable taste
Love that you still have this friend from school. I have found teenage friendships into adulthood to be quite healing as you grow together
i've never been good at noticing your voice changes ... but WOW Mike was PRESENT. Even I noticed his voice a lot
We've seen so much of the body going through such awful hard times, it's truly a delight to see yous interacting to happily and comfortably with another person 🥲
I’m very glad u have such a supportive friend! I’m glad u guys did this! My significant other has undiagnosed DID and I want to be able to be as supportive as possible to them. So I can relate a lot to this friend!! I hope you both have a lovely week!
This is such a weirdly emotional video to me. There's something about reminiscing about dark times with someone you've reconnected (or maintained a connection) with that is very bitter-sweet, melancholic but also hopeful for some reason. Remembering the bad stuff, but also the little moments when the sunshine was able to shine through the clouds... The stories about you hanging out outside of school and on the grass patch really touched me.
I'm so happy for you! That y'all were able to keep such a good friend from that time. It's important to notice and celebrate the good things in life, the people that make you happy and that really care about you.
Cheers DissociaDID! ❤❤❤
I do not have DID, but I do dissociate a lot, much less today than I was younger. People used to say I am in my own world a lot, because I used to just stare into nothing for a while, and I would barely remember anything, it can also take an hour or 2 where I am just staring and empty, and sometimes when I walk from point A to point B I would not remember the travel, I would just dissociate. I had a traumatic life, but not to the extent to DID, but it was big trauma. I dissociate when triggered. I am happy today, though, 2 kids and a fiance.
I love seeing y'all so comfortable with another person, the energy of this whole conversation is so calm and friendly 💜💜👍
Finding ways to stay under the radar constantly...so true.
So lovely to see that there are some friends who have stuck with you through all of this chaos life has tossed your way. It's wonderful watching someone make you laugh :]
I knew my partner in highschool and we started dating before he found out he has DID. It's so interesting talking to him about highschool because I will bring up a memory or something and he will say "that wasn't me, that was *incert name here" over the past year I have figured out and pieced together a lot of highschool memories and now know who I was with, why he was acting certain ways, ect.
This was such an interesting video! As a long time viewer (and singlet), it's so interesting to get a perspective on some things you have talked about from someone else. It's also interesting just to see you interacting with other people normally, as most of the videos were obviously just you talking to the camera. I'm glad you had some lovely people who stood up for you.
Your guys’ videos are great for anyone coping with childhood traumas you are able speak so clearly and calmly. And I think hearing your friend’s perspective is really unique and beautiful. I appreciate your guys’ videos a lot keep safe my friends
I have a creepy coworker who genuinely ENJOYS startling people specifically girls and I believe this is a sexual thing disguised as something innocent when it isn't. I'm the only one who had the balls to lay down a boundary and put him in his place real quick. I was very clear and told him we can joke around and be silly but you aren't gonna do that to me, i have a heightened sense of fight or flight and it actually feels painful and extreme for me and it's bad for my health. He didn't do it to me for about 9 months but did to everyone else. Grabbing them, popping out from places, hiding, ect. Then he did it to me again and I had to put him in line once again and tell him he's not gonna do that to me, it makes me extremely uncomfortable and I'm not gonna feel that way. It's genuinely bad for my health or anyone who has hyperaroused sensations. It feels totally different in my body than an average person. It takes a long time to come down from. I always found it creepy how many people specifically dudes in high school loved grabbing that rib cage area as an excuse to touch girls when they didnt ask for it
I agree, I see it as s*xual ab*se too
Just came from your tiktok about this video LOLLLL
i adore your friend, and i love that you're still friends to this day 💜
The body change from comfort to like protection mode for your friend cause they said they felt bad
And face went so confused you’re such a good friend
You have a very good friend there, I wish I had a friend like that in high school. I'm glad you had someone like that to help you a bit through high school and be there years later to tell you about his perspective 💙
As someone with the fawn and freeze response, I was wondering if you could maybe at some point talk about how to deal with the guilt and shame, feeling like everything bad that's happened is your fault even if it may not be? Thank you for making this video, you guys are amazing and you have a really great friend!! 💜
I really enjoyed this video and the interactions within. I wish we could see your friend, but I understand. I would love to see more videos of you chatting with friends and their experiences of witnessed your DID either knowingly or unknowingly
I love to see you smile and hear you laugh. You have such a beautiful smile, your face lit up! I hope you find that level of comfort more often. ❤
Hope you are doing alright! ❤ You guys are awesome