Also, the captain of the boat is black. And it makes sense. He's the captain of an African ship. They didn't shoehorn him in as something that would have been anachronistic to the time. He's an intelligent, charming man. No pandering. And it's not noted within the film because it doesn't need to be.
We are at a point where the sensible subtle appeal of that type of character won’t be appreciated and will in fact be taken as offensive by the most vocal audience members. It’s sad. I hope that comments and online arguments lose their weight and effect soon
When there weren't many movies coming out in theaters early this year, my local AMC movie theater showed Raiders of the Lost Ark one day for $5/ticket. Only about a dozen people in the theater with me. It was awesome! I've seen the movie countless times before but never in a theater. One of the best theater experiences I've had in a very long time.
Saw it a few years ago during an anniversary at the theatre w my brother. Raiders is a perfect film . Temple would be perfect if 2 scenes were cut. Crusade is saved by the star power of the actors. The crystal skull was awful
I love when theatres do that. We two here that do that. Seen Casablanca, Yojimbo, Gone With the Wind, Labyrinth, ... So many. But they charge $15 a ticket here.
@@themydnighthour They were showing both trilogies in Edinburgh when cinemas opened again this year. I've seen LoTR in cinema as a teenager, but now to think of it, I should have went to see at least Return of the Jedi. I did go to see Taxi Driver and Total Recall though.
I met Paul Freeman at a convention once (nice guy). When I told him that Belloq would have been a great recurring villain, his response was, "I agree."
I remember as a kid finding the scene where he shoots the swordsman to be so shocking/funny - movies just didn't do that. That is what real subversion of expectations done right looks like.
He was a reluctant hero, an every man that fought dirty when he needed to. Audiences and critics loved that when the opposit were Stallone and Arnold types muscling and blasting their way through everything. It was a good counter balance.
It was also not in the script, Indy was meant to engage in combat with him but Ford had been unwell with a stomach bug so improvised with the gunshot and the rest of the scene carried on rolling
Part of the comedy is meta, they hired a real master swordsman and had a huge swordfight planned out and because Harrison Ford had a tummy ache, he just shot him instead.
The moment at the climax where his father tells him to let go is just a great mirror to the intro scene in the house. His father was obsessed with the grail giving less priority to his son. Now those positions have switched.
John Williams cannot be overstated in his influence in all these great movies. Drinker, it would be interesting to see your take on musical scores in cinema.
Spielberg latched on to Williams early. At one point, Williams had scored18 of the 20 greatest grossing movies of all time. Watch the original Star Wars movie without the soundtrack and the excitement is just not there. Williams is the boss, no doubt!
You read my mind! It's really hard to say but without Williams score in these films it would definitely not have the feels it does every time I rewatch them.
When Spielberg asked Williams to score _Schindler's List,_ Williams told him he needed a better composer.; Spielberg replied "Yes, I know - but they're all dead!" 😁
On the subject of the submarine not submerging on the way to nazi island: Subs in that era were almost twice as fast on the surface as they were under it. Since the nazis were in a hurry and not actively at war at the time they would have stayed on the surface to complete the trip in a day instead of two, giving Indy something to surf on.
Absolutely correct on the surface vs. submerged capabilities. We do know though that U-26 travelled submerged at periscope depth since in the film the Captain gives the order to dive and one of the officers announces the scope is clear.
Yes, that is a detail that supports general world building instead of being plothole. I have a vague recollection that as kids we might have wondered why didn't the sub travel submerged, but that was just ignorance because we did not know the speed difference because they have different propulsion system for different needs. I actually came across similar case of lack of information, when Red Letter media guys were chuckling how in Event Horizon explosives had "Explosive" written on them with bright bold letters like that is some cartoonish thing. Which has nothing to do with movies or exposition, but in reality most especially military grade stuff has information on the package that this really is high explosive and usually which type is it like e.g. C4. Because even the lowliest non expert grunt should recognize the explosive stuff without special knowledge (and probably also to make it even clearer in high stress environment).
Not only that, a submerged U-Boat cannot use its diesel engines since they require air, so they'd have to use batteries which wouldn't get them very far. But if you've seen Das Boot, you'd know they keep the officers on the conning towers to help navigate the ship and prevent collisions (leaving Indy with no practical chance to hide) and this film stole this U-Boat from Das Boot. When the production of Das Boot went to start filming for the day, they found their submarine missing and wondered what happened.
@@Edax_Royeaux Seriously? I didn't know that. Das boot, the full 6 hrs is an awesome film.. Very tense and being British I've been brought up on the allies as hero's so it was nice to see things from the axis point of view and that there were heroic stories on both sides, something that Hollywood and Pinewood tend to ignore
Like Royeaux mentioned when running on the surface there would have been crew on the deck. Indy would have had to have hidden. Oddly I don't think this bothered me for years. It was more Bad Guys Were Getting Away and Our Hero Catches Up. Older cynical me started to frown, but fresh faced shorter me was happy.
I showed my two year old the truck scene from raiders. Now he sings the theme when he plays with his toys. Even toddlers know good cinema when they see it.
U-Boats & other submarines of the time weren’t like those we are familiar with today. They were surface vessels that had the ability to go under water.
Correct, when WWII era submarines were in transit, they traveled on the surface. While on the surface, they were faster and were propelled by their diesel engines and therefore conserve their batteries. If spotted, they had to be able to submerge fast.
It was a plot point in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea when a WW2 U-Boat Captain took over the Seaview and cruised around on the surface because he didn't realise that nuclear subs are faster underwater.
I love the bit when they are talking about Marcus to the Germans saying that they will never find him as he speaks ten languages and is an expert in this and that and will blend in. Cuts to a confused Marcus in a business suit asking for directions :)
“Und this is how we say goodbye in Germany...” that moment kills me every time. What great, fun, well done film making that even the stereotypically severe and stern Prussian-Junker SS officer, Baron von Bad-Guy, is somehow not tired and cliche.
What people don't realize is back then customers could go to the movie with a expectation of seeing a good movie. Nowadays we go with the expectation of being disappointed.
My dad showed me and my older brother these movies before we were 10 and they are even more fun to watch over 20 years later. This stream was delightful, gentlemen! Thank you!
One thing I'll say for Temple of Doom, is that for it's frenetic pace and incredibly dark moments, it makes the audience work for our happy ending. That movie's a rollercoaster of emotions but those scenes in the village at the end with grass on the hills and the captured children returning home feel like, we've been through some dark dark places in this movie, so the ending feels even sweeter I guess.
To me it’s on the same level of the Alien vs Aliens debate. It ultimately boils down to personal preference. I never really liked Temple of Doom even though it’s a great watch that I would happily do again.
@@NathanCassidy721 I think it's tremendously underrated, and as a plot, it's better than the first one. The sets are the best of any of the movies. It literally looks like what you imagine a D&D dungeon could be. Every altar, the history of the temple and the stones, secret passages, traps, human sacrifices, flayed skin in the windows, the horror and screaming of the children toiling in the mine. It's so dark, and bizarre, the mysticism is so good, the bugs, the rope bridge scene, a totally valid deus ex machina of the british soldiers finally showing up at the end. Each character has clear motivation, especially the priest, at the end, where he's dealing on a 100 or 1000 year time scale when it comes to getting the stones, and doesn't care if they end up in the river. Short Round is great. Even Willie has a character arc.
The company ripped off public domain ip then lobbied to extend copyright terms beyond a reasonable amount of time. I think it used to be after 20 years or so things became public domain and fair use but since disney lobbied it think it’s over 40 years now. They are evil to the core
As mentioned, the Giant German mechanic that fought Indy around the plane, was a giant Nepalese dude in the bar at the beginning, was also a Thuggee guard in Temple of Doom and an officer in the Last Crusade. His name was Pat Roach, formerly a wrestler and was in the long running comedy drama on UK tv, Aug Wiedersehen Pet. Was also a Celtic Chieftain in Robin Hood - Prince of Thieves... Great watching this Happy hour, knowing the Indy films so well myself. Raiders still my favourite, although Last Crusade coming a close second.
I was going to say all that. Good job I did a search of the comments first. Pat Roach's character in Auf Wiedersehen Pet had this great West Country accent and kept referring to himself in the third person. It was a great series largely written by the pair who gave the great Ronnie Barker his finest hours in Porridge..
Speaking as an archaeologist, Indie is more treasure hunter, he's an academic archaeologist, but in practical terms he doesn't study the sites properly, or use any methodologies, it's questionable what he actually learns, he seems to prioritise women and gold! Heyho he's still the best 'archaeologist' on screen. Belloch is more of a real archaeologist actually, because he's actually conducting a real excavation on the site
Temple of Doom still has the most memorable Indiana Jones moments for me. The heart ripping priest, short round, Indy and short round playing cards, stewed monkey brains... the crushing trap with the spikes... Out of the three, it's definitely got the most.
I have a very soft spot for Temple of Doom. I just love it. Yeah it's not better than Raiders and Last Crusade but it has so many memorable moments and it takes a lot of chances, tries to be something fresh. The music is excellent, that main theme is amazing. And Ford is so jacked, really worked out for this one.
I've always liked how Spielberg did the map transitions when Indy was traveling on the plane to Budapest. A magical film. He is able to handle serious subjects like Nazis in a comic book almost soft fashion here and then you see Shindler's List and they are handled as your would expect IRL.
Not directly Indiana Jones related, but as an example of how disposable modern cinema is the new Mortal Kombat released to theaters April 23, 2021. I bought it yesterday (sept 24) from the $5 Walmart discount bin. Hollywood doesn't care if these things are remembered even a year later these days. Why would anyone expect they'd put the effort into making something of a quality that will be still viewed decades later?
it´s just like fastfood with most movies. Really sad, that (most) movie makers don´t make movies anymore with focus on creating art or something lasting
I never realized how talented Doomcock is at accents and reciting movie lines. He underutilizes that expertise in his standard content. I kinda wish he wasn't so straight jacketed into that character in his channel.
Temple of Doom always felt like it was made specifically for kids like me, I was heavy into horror at a young age and as awesome as indy is, the best bits for me are the gory bits like the end of raiders, temple of Doom scratches that itch.
I don’t think Indy was awkward around women. In Marion’s bar he was very cool about their relationship, rather Bondish in fact. When Marion was tearing into him, he basically says.” I did what I did, it happened. I can only apologise so many times. Either shut up about it or get over it kid” The thing that made him uncomfortable at the University was the fact that it was one of his students that was hitting on him. His student, not some woman. We also see him in TLC being rather suave with the lady Doctor (I can’t think of her name atm) and although she was trying to seduce him, he admits that he was doing the same thing to her.So Doomcock saying that Indiana doesn’t work in TOD because he was awkward around women and wasn’t a ladies man just doesn’t hold water for me.
@@TheGreekPapa You're both very right. As a matter of fact, it was a conscious choice from Spielberg since he couldn't do an official Bond film but always wanted to. And I'm pretty certain I've heard him mention once that at the beginning of Raiders, when Marcus comes and visits Indy at his home, a scene was deleted where Indy was in fact already having champagne and courting a woman (possibly the "I love you" student from earlier, but I could be wrong) which is why the bottle is already opened when Marcus enters the room.
Exactly. There were a few moments throughout this video where the duo made questionable remarks... 1/ The aforementioned case of them saying that Indy was awkward around women in Raiders (as you correctly stated, Indy was distracted and flummoxed because it was one of his student's doing that, during one of his lectures... not because she was a woman in love with him). 2/ Them saying that they "THINK that Elsa intentionally chose the wrong grail for Donovan to drink out of of" in The Last Crusade. I mean... no sh!t, Sherlock! That's obviously the entire point of that scene and yet you're not sure?! 3/ Critical Drinker saying "I don't know why Ray Winstone keeps getting work". I mean, FFS! Ray Winstone is a wonderful actor. Maybe Critical Drinker should try watching some great films such as 'Scum', 'Nil By Mouth' and 'Sexy Beast' before making outrageous comments like that. The problem with Mac as a character was the way in which he was written. It's not Ray Winstone's fault that he had to work with terrible dialogue and nonsensical character motivations.
The intro and all of the Jungle Scenes to Raiders of the Lost Ark was filmed on my Home Island of Kauai, Hawaii. And all of the Shots where you see Indy from the back, before his face reveal, was actually a Friend of mine who stood in as a Body Double for Harrison Ford. I don’t think Harrison was even on the Island yet at that Point. Because my friend hasn’t ever met him. Just the Film Crew…. Ahhh! The Magic of Cinema! 😅
Just loving this discussion. It's like y'all are reading my mind. Indy's original trilogy is one of my favorites of all time. Huge thanks to both of you.
I know it's out of the voice-processed character, but it's so great to hear the man behind Doomcock talking about things he loves. And Temple of Doom is great. Of course Indy doesn't behave like Indy from Raiders, because it happens earlier. I got no problem with that. I kinda always saw the finale of that one as Indy growing into the guy he is in Raiders. He's struggling to climb up, has the bad guy on him, and manages to prevail after he lets go (of most) of what he was chasing after. There are no bad movies in the Indy trilogy.
I was about 12. After church one Sunday, our youth pastor took a group of us to the movies. I watched this movie with my 3 brothers and was amazed. We never said a word and it’s still one of my favorites… Next we saw Tron!
Moloram’s custom design was brilliant. He’s got a cow skull on his head, which is just creepy in general, but out right blasphemous to a Hindu. Just brilliant visual storytelling.
That’s what I never understood why some people (mainly white leftist) complain that it is misrepresenting Hindu culture. It was always meant to be a perversion of it from the start. Moloram was basically an equivalent to a satanist. Just people be ignorant
Right, well they obviously missed the memo that these are just escapist fantasy stories. No one thinks that they’re depicting real things. You notice of course that they take no offense to pretty much every white person being a cartoonish super-Nazi or a Nazi collaborator. Now, where things get really weird is that the post-colonialism thought of “easternism” would insist the other direction in stereotyping. Take Shang Chi, for example. This is a movie for Chinese people, starring Chinese people, about Chinese things. So what’s the story going to be about? Well, our lead is involved with a super-secret society of magical Kung fu killers who has to travel to the land of mystical-bull shit and dragons to win the approval of his father and restore the balance of Confusionist familial ethics. It certainly wouldn’t click with Chinese people to portray China and Chinese culture as a sophisticated and highly advanced place where people trend towards highly valuing education, hard work, and excel in STEM fields. No, no, no, that would be craaaazy. That would be enforcing the hegemonic influences of their former oppressors and their values into them, because there’s just nooooo way anyone else on the planet values science and mathematics besides the Europeans! Certainly no one else would come to that way of thinking without them destroying their cultural heritage and “natural” trajectory! China’s all about Kung fu, mysticism, and philosophizing about life and nature in a silk robe and funny hat. I’m convinced that if Indy actually made it to Deli, and it was anything other than Ghandi, Mother Theresa, and a magical yogi floating outside the Taj Mahal, they would cry foul.
Indiana Jones was one of my first Hollywood film experiences. Growing up in Denmark during the 80s, TV was utter shite, so my folks rented Indiana Jones. I was a happy 7-year-old.
16:23 the Drinker points out each movie dealt with a different religion. Raiders of the Lost Ark was Judaism Temple of Doom was Hinduism The Last Crusade was Christianity I wonder what Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was? Scientology?
Raiders of the Los Ark is the only movie that I hid between the seats after first viewing so I could watch it twice (I was a kid and didn't have enough $ to get another ticket). Doomcock, same with me. Had no idea what to expect. Best overall movie ever!
Everyone knows in the last crusade the old Knight did maintenance on the leap of faith part of the test 😂 poor bugger needed something to do for the hundreds of years he was there 😂
I honestly believe that Willie was fantastic. Granted they gave her the blond air-head role, but despite this she did a great job. To me she was head and shoulders above that chick from last Crusade (Elsa). Far more personable. I love the scene when Indy & short round are playing cards while Willie is running about screaming her head off. Hellarious 🤣🤣
I absolutely love the scene where Indy is beating up the Thugee slave driver, Short Round is beating up the possessed Maharaja, and Willie is doing air punches and giving them "moral support"!
Kate Capshaw who played Willie was in Temple of Doom and Dreamscape in 1984 so she got to play opposite Harrison Ford and Dennis Quaid in their prime and she met Steven Spielberg, her future husband, so I figure that must have been a good year for her.
Absolutely great discussion of the film and breakdown of the parts. I'd point out two really important ones that you skipped. The first was during the discussion with the government agents when Indy mentioned Tannis. He briefly explained the history including the fact that once they returned with the Ark the city was hit with sandstorm that lasted until everything and everyone was wiped off the face of the earth. Talk about awesome foreshadowing.... Second was just a little more depth to belloch as a character when the Nazi threw her into the pit and he almost got himself shot because he was protesting and saying she was supposed to be his. Then he took the time to tell her he was sorry and you can tell he actually meant it. He was an amoral person, But not an evil one. I'm sure if he could have had his way Indy would have been kept alive to be able to find out what was in the ark as a sign of respect and he would have taken Marion with him because of his actual attraction and affection for her. Very nice writing moments.
The call back to the 1930s adventure movies and literature with the Raiders franchise is amazing...If you watch Turner Classic movie channel you see so many parallels and story beats...It is timeless fun that any generation can enjoy...Indy is smart but tough...thoughtful but brave.
The AMC multiplex in Oceanside, CA played Raiders for over a year. I saw it opening weekend, not really knowing what to expect other than that Spielberg and Lucas were involved. A twelve year old mind was blown that day, and I first became conscious of how cinematography , editing, writing, music and acting all came together to produce cinematic excellence. Saw it 9 times that summer. Great times!
1:04:32 - the weapon Indy has there is a Soviet RPG-2 (late 1950s). I think you're right, I think they were going for a German Panzerfaust (1944) since you can see the cone-shaped warhead protruding from the end of the weapon, which yes, would also be an anachronism. It's all fine, Belloq saves the scene when he eats the bug. :D :D :D
I love Raiders so much, and appreciate that anyone who went to Sunday school (or Hebrew school, I suppose) and remembers the early events of the Books of Samuel gets to be in on a bit of an insider foreshadowing: treating the Ark of the Covenant like it’s some kinda lucky charm? Ignoring the *very* specific instructions for how to handle it? Not gonna go well for you, my dude.
I really like doomcock in these discussions. He’s a smart guy and isn’t engaging in what I suspect are made up rumors from made up sources that are always wrong. His commentary here is excellent, informative and insightful.
Fun fact I eventually realized, the Toht character was essentially a 1 for 1 recreation of a character Peter Lori played in one of the invisible man sequels, where he was supposed to be a Japanese agent working with the Nazis. When you see Lori in the role it seems impossible that they didn't have him in mind when they cast that character.
In Temple of Doom, Indiana was not interested in attaining "fortune and glory" for himself. He felt sympathy for the villagers and their plight and was thus motivated to bring back the stones and free the children. Also, being an archaeologist, he was genuinely interested in the stones and wanted to see them for himself. Also, while I think of it, what's so bad about Indiana stumbling into adventures? I like to imagine that this sort of thing happens to him occasionally while he's off seeing to his main objective. One last thing - the elder of the village claims that their God was guiding Indiana and his companions to India and was protecting them along the way, so seeing as Indiana Jones is set in a world where the supernatural exists, I can go along with the far fetched means of their arrival to India.
Don’t call me that, dad. But that’s you’re name. Henry Jones Jr. I prefer Indiana. We named the dog Indiana. The dog? You were named after the dog? Huh huh! I have a lot of fond memories of that dog.
Little known fact. Up until Crystal Skull the only actor to appear in all three Indiana Jones films apart from Ford was Pat Roach. He had two roles in Raiders - Sherpa in bar and Nazi bald guy who gets it in the face. He then played the guard in the caves in the second, and in the third Spielberg gave him an extra role in the scene with Alexi Sayle (Roach was dying of cancer at this time). But still, he's the only actor to have appeared in the first three with Ford.
I saw Last Crusade first growing up. I’ve wanted to go to Venice ever since, but so many people have told me it’s not what it used to be. Pushing 40, I still haven’t made it.
Go. All you have to do is make the arrangements. Or, save up for it and just set a date and go! Go have a good time. Life is meant to be enjoyed, not worried about, not toiled. If you don't, you will always regret it for the rest of your life. Go!
You guys are severely underrating Temple of Doom. How can you say it doesn't feel like Indiana Jones? Its Indy at his swashbuckling, archaeological explorer at his best!
The Marvel comic of Raiders covers the trip back to the island. Yes they run on the diesel engines, submerged but with the periscope up. At first Indy thinks they're going to fully submerge, so panics, but realises they're going to run with the scope, so lashes himself to it with his whip. Which was supposed to be in the film, but was clearly cut for time.
@@TheVCRTimeMachine Only when deeply submerged. When they ran at periscope depth they ran on their diesel engine with an air vent and exhaust exposed. So OK the comic got it wrong as it only showed the periscope exposed. But then I doubt you'd want to lash yourself to the exhaust for risk of prolonged carbon monoxide exposure.
@@stevegreenway1796 I don't think you can die off desiel fumes but don't quote me on that. His main problem being lashed on to the exhaust would be being burnt from the heat
@@grindelston5968 not diesel fumes, carbon monoxide! Yeah diesel engines are more efficient at burning off its fuel, so produces less CO, prolonged exposure is still fatal. And pretty certain a mainly submerged UBoat exhaust would be cold. Have you seen how long these exhaust are? They're huge
In Raiders, The South American corridor (equipped with deadly spikes and darts) wasn't 'magic' to stay out of the light. Indy strongly suspected pressure stones in the floor, and never fully trusted his helper. Indy used the 'light' to throw off his helper while pushing down a pressure stone. Everything at the end of Last Crusade excluding the Grail power wasn't magic, but sophisticated illusions. The 'Path of God' was a perspective illusion. The 'Breath of God' may have had the same type of mechanism as the South American corridor, but with a delayed release of the blades. There are so many Raiders hark backs in Last Crusade.
When I first saw Raiders, I was a little late and came in when they were in the cave w/ Alfred Molina. I thought the previous screening was running late and that was the climax of the movie.
To DC and Drinker, WW2 submarines are surface vessels primarily, they only submerge for under special circumstances normally in war. WW2 Subs needed air for their diesil engines and travelled much faster on the surface than underwater using battery power. So the plot hole about the sub only being on the surface is not a plot hole at all. You are probably thinking of modern sub which stays submerged most of the time.
Really enjoyed listening to two people who love the art of cinema indulge in a series they thoroughly enjoyed (mostly). Have listened over a few car journeys and this has made me wish I could have joined in on the chat. My personal favourite of the series is the last crusade. Should have remained the final movie of indy’s story.
Didn't realise how fast-paced Raiders was until a rewatch recently. As you intimated, nothing is wasted in the script; there's no throwaway bollocks or statements just for the sake of it - just a tightly-written script that takes us on an adventure from beginning to end.
Regarding the climax to Raiders, I think the power of the ark-opening scene is that it shows what happens on the level of divine power. The human actors have done all they can and exhausted all their options, which brings them all to the climactic, single choice of opening, which must be done by humans with human motivations; but what happens afterward is literally an act of God. The principle of the Nazis - that nothing stands above totalitarian will - is tested against the essential principle of divinity - that the divine power which surpasses humanity is itself a conscious power, not merely mindless energy that can be used in the pursuit of any goal, all of which are objectively equal. This is of course foreshadowed by the clear communication that the power of the ark does not like the Nazi regime when that power burns out the swastika on the crate it is sheathed in.
I remember seeing Raiders at the cinema when it first came out (I was 14) and then at a later date going round my mates house where his uncle was visiting - his uncle being Terry Richards, who played the Arabian swordsman (the one Indie shoots)
No matter how many times I watch it and at this point it's been hundreds every time that real pretty ghost floats up and stares right at the camera and turns herself into a skeleton it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up and I get goosebumps all over
The wierd thing is I grew up in the 90s but I discovered the fantastic 80s movies era as an adult so many great movies with practical effects Aliens 1986, Indiana Jones, The Thing 1982, The Blob 1986, Evil dead, Gremlins, American Werewolf in London 1981 etc. To me it was the peak of practical effects and stunt work
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Also, the captain of the boat is black. And it makes sense. He's the captain of an African ship. They didn't shoehorn him in as something that would have been anachronistic to the time. He's an intelligent, charming man. No pandering. And it's not noted within the film because it doesn't need to be.
He jas a small part here and in flash gordan and makes an impression in both
We are at a point where the sensible subtle appeal of that type of character won’t be appreciated and will in fact be taken as offensive by the most vocal audience members. It’s sad. I hope that comments and online arguments lose their weight and effect soon
Did you just assume his gender? 😉
I agree, and it doesn't hurt that he is played by a great British actor, George Harris - Kingsley Shacklebolt from the Harry Potter films !
@@T.R.R.Jolkien 😂
When there weren't many movies coming out in theaters early this year, my local AMC movie theater showed Raiders of the Lost Ark one day for $5/ticket. Only about a dozen people in the theater with me. It was awesome! I've seen the movie countless times before but never in a theater. One of the best theater experiences I've had in a very long time.
Saw it a few years ago during an anniversary at the theatre w my brother. Raiders is a perfect film . Temple would be perfect if 2 scenes were cut. Crusade is saved by the star power of the actors. The crystal skull was awful
I wish more theaters would do this. What I wouldn’t give to watch the original Star Wars trilogy or Lord of the Rings trilogy in a theater.
Indeed. Our local did the theatrical LOTR films......dude..... they most of those r better than extended.
I love when theatres do that. We two here that do that. Seen Casablanca, Yojimbo, Gone With the Wind, Labyrinth, ... So many. But they charge $15 a ticket here.
@@themydnighthour They were showing both trilogies in Edinburgh when cinemas opened again this year. I've seen LoTR in cinema as a teenager, but now to think of it, I should have went to see at least Return of the Jedi.
I did go to see Taxi Driver and Total Recall though.
I met Paul Freeman at a convention once (nice guy). When I told him that Belloq would have been a great recurring villain, his response was, "I agree."
@Sprocket List 🇬🇧 No, I figured everyone else already asked by now.
I remember as a kid finding the scene where he shoots the swordsman to be so shocking/funny - movies just didn't do that. That is what real subversion of expectations done right looks like.
He was a reluctant hero, an every man that fought dirty when he needed to. Audiences and critics loved that when the opposit were Stallone and Arnold types muscling and blasting their way through everything. It was a good counter balance.
It was also not in the script, Indy was meant to engage in combat with him but Ford had been unwell with a stomach bug so improvised with the gunshot and the rest of the scene carried on rolling
Part of the comedy is meta, they hired a real master swordsman and had a huge swordfight planned out and because Harrison Ford had a tummy ache, he just shot him instead.
@@Edax_Royeaux The whole crew had food poisoning with the exception of Spielberg.
@@doogie38041 The Swordsman looked fine to me, apart from the squib.
The moment at the climax where his father tells him to let go is just a great mirror to the intro scene in the house.
His father was obsessed with the grail giving less priority to his son. Now those positions have switched.
Yup. It is a great moment when Indy realizes his dad treasures him more than the grail.
“Indiana… Indiana... Let it go” one of the most emotional moments in cinema history
John Williams cannot be overstated in his influence in all these great movies. Drinker, it would be interesting to see your take on musical scores in cinema.
Spielberg latched on to Williams early. At one point, Williams had scored18 of the 20 greatest grossing movies of all time. Watch the original Star Wars movie without the soundtrack and the excitement is just not there. Williams is the boss, no doubt!
Agreed!!! John Williams is awesome next to some other great film composers.
You read my mind! It's really hard to say but without Williams score in these films it would definitely not have the feels it does every time I rewatch them.
Try watching the map room scene without the music. Its quite a boring scene.
When Spielberg asked Williams to score _Schindler's List,_ Williams told him he needed a better composer.; Spielberg replied
"Yes, I know - but they're all dead!"
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The scene where Indy and Marcus fill in the Army Intel guys on the Ark is the best piece of fact finding/foreshadowing/plot building ever .
@Sprocket List 🇬🇧 he would have een a fantastic 007. Cubby thought he was too hardcore for the part. Shame.
On the subject of the submarine not submerging on the way to nazi island: Subs in that era were almost twice as fast on the surface as they were under it. Since the nazis were in a hurry and not actively at war at the time they would have stayed on the surface to complete the trip in a day instead of two, giving Indy something to surf on.
Absolutely correct on the surface vs. submerged capabilities. We do know though that U-26 travelled submerged at periscope depth since in the film the Captain gives the order to dive and one of the officers announces the scope is clear.
Yes, that is a detail that supports general world building instead of being plothole.
I have a vague recollection that as kids we might have wondered why didn't the sub travel submerged, but that was just ignorance because we did not know the speed difference because they have different propulsion system for different needs.
I actually came across similar case of lack of information, when Red Letter media guys were chuckling how in Event Horizon explosives had "Explosive" written on them with bright bold letters like that is some cartoonish thing.
Which has nothing to do with movies or exposition, but in reality most especially military grade stuff has information on the package that this really is high explosive and usually which type is it like e.g. C4. Because even the lowliest non expert grunt should recognize the explosive stuff without special knowledge (and probably also to make it even clearer in high stress environment).
Not only that, a submerged U-Boat cannot use its diesel engines since they require air, so they'd have to use batteries which wouldn't get them very far. But if you've seen Das Boot, you'd know they keep the officers on the conning towers to help navigate the ship and prevent collisions (leaving Indy with no practical chance to hide) and this film stole this U-Boat from Das Boot. When the production of Das Boot went to start filming for the day, they found their submarine missing and wondered what happened.
@@Edax_Royeaux
Seriously? I didn't know that.
Das boot, the full 6 hrs is an awesome film.. Very tense and being British I've been brought up on the allies as hero's so it was nice to see things from the axis point of view and that there were heroic stories on both sides, something that Hollywood and Pinewood tend to ignore
Like Royeaux mentioned when running on the surface there would have been crew on the deck. Indy would have had to have hidden.
Oddly I don't think this bothered me for years. It was more Bad Guys Were Getting Away and Our Hero Catches Up. Older cynical me started to frown, but fresh faced shorter me was happy.
I showed my two year old the truck scene from raiders. Now he sings the theme when he plays with his toys. Even toddlers know good cinema when they see it.
U-Boats & other submarines of the time weren’t like those we are familiar with today. They were surface vessels that had the ability to go under water.
Yep. They could only submerge for 48 hours at the most.
Correct, when WWII era submarines were in transit, they traveled on the surface. While on the surface, they were faster and were propelled by their diesel engines and therefore conserve their batteries. If spotted, they had to be able to submerge fast.
It was a plot point in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea when a WW2 U-Boat Captain took over the Seaview and cruised around on the surface because he didn't realise that nuclear subs are faster underwater.
@@TheVCRTimeMachine Not very deep either.
I love the bit when they are talking about Marcus to the
Germans saying that they will never find him as he speaks ten languages and is an expert in this and that and will blend in. Cuts to a confused Marcus in a business suit asking for directions :)
Agreed. Always loved that cut. Perfect. Just perfect.
I cant not laugh at that cut. Its just perfect, hits me everytime
"I made it all up. You know Marcus. He once got lost in his own museum."
I loved that scene because Indy is describing himself.
@@rinck17 nice! Good observation
“Und this is how we say goodbye in Germany...” that moment kills me every time. What great, fun, well done film making that even the stereotypically severe and stern Prussian-Junker SS officer, Baron von Bad-Guy, is somehow not tired and cliche.
What people don't realize is back then customers could go to the movie with a expectation of seeing a good movie. Nowadays we go with the expectation of being disappointed.
Correction: now people don’t go 😂
or expectation of being lectured and preached to
My dad showed me and my older brother these movies before we were 10 and they are even more fun to watch over 20 years later. This stream was delightful, gentlemen! Thank you!
One thing I'll say for Temple of Doom, is that for it's frenetic pace and incredibly dark moments, it makes the audience work for our happy ending. That movie's a rollercoaster of emotions but those scenes in the village at the end with grass on the hills and the captured children returning home feel like, we've been through some dark dark places in this movie, so the ending feels even sweeter I guess.
It's a great film period
To me it’s on the same level of the Alien vs Aliens debate. It ultimately boils down to personal preference.
I never really liked Temple of Doom even though it’s a great watch that I would happily do again.
@@NathanCassidy721 I think it's tremendously underrated, and as a plot, it's better than the first one. The sets are the best of any of the movies. It literally looks like what you imagine a D&D dungeon could be. Every altar, the history of the temple and the stones, secret passages, traps, human sacrifices, flayed skin in the windows, the horror and screaming of the children toiling in the mine. It's so dark, and bizarre, the mysticism is so good, the bugs, the rope bridge scene, a totally valid deus ex machina of the british soldiers finally showing up at the end. Each character has clear motivation, especially the priest, at the end, where he's dealing on a 100 or 1000 year time scale when it comes to getting the stones, and doesn't care if they end up in the river. Short Round is great. Even Willie has a character arc.
Disney: (makes Indy 5)
Me: They chose… poorly.
The company ripped off public domain ip then lobbied to extend copyright terms beyond a reasonable amount of time. I think it used to be after 20 years or so things became public domain and fair use but since disney lobbied it think it’s over 40 years now. They are evil to the core
@@randomdude189 I wonder what old Walt would think of it all now? Z
- Disney... Disney... Let it go.
-No! I can reach it!
*falls into oblivion
@@petrowegynyolc7108 L O L
@@jkdbuck7670 he probably rolled in his grave about 1000 times at this point
As mentioned, the Giant German mechanic that fought Indy around the plane, was a giant Nepalese dude in the bar at the beginning, was also a Thuggee guard in Temple of Doom and an officer in the Last Crusade. His name was Pat Roach, formerly a wrestler and was in the long running comedy drama on UK tv, Aug Wiedersehen Pet. Was also a Celtic Chieftain in Robin Hood - Prince of Thieves... Great watching this Happy hour, knowing the Indy films so well myself. Raiders still my favourite, although Last Crusade coming a close second.
I was going to say all that. Good job I did a search of the comments first. Pat Roach's character in Auf Wiedersehen Pet had this great West Country accent and kept referring to himself in the third person. It was a great series largely written by the pair who gave the great Ronnie Barker his finest hours in Porridge..
Speaking as an archaeologist, Indie is more treasure hunter, he's an academic archaeologist, but in practical terms he doesn't study the sites properly, or use any methodologies, it's questionable what he actually learns, he seems to prioritise women and gold! Heyho he's still the best 'archaeologist' on screen. Belloch is more of a real archaeologist actually, because he's actually conducting a real excavation on the site
Temple of Doom still has the most memorable Indiana Jones moments for me. The heart ripping priest, short round, Indy and short round playing cards, stewed monkey brains... the crushing trap with the spikes... Out of the three, it's definitely got the most.
I have a very soft spot for Temple of Doom. I just love it. Yeah it's not better than Raiders and Last Crusade but it has so many memorable moments and it takes a lot of chances, tries to be something fresh. The music is excellent, that main theme is amazing. And Ford is so jacked, really worked out for this one.
Indiana Jones is basically the first Cosplay that I’ve ever done. Definitely one of the coolest film characters ever to be put on screen.
I've always liked how Spielberg did the map transitions when Indy was traveling on the plane to Budapest. A magical film. He is able to handle serious subjects like Nazis in a comic book almost soft fashion here and then you see Shindler's List and they are handled as your would expect IRL.
Not directly Indiana Jones related, but as an example of how disposable modern cinema is the new Mortal Kombat released to theaters April 23, 2021. I bought it yesterday (sept 24) from the $5 Walmart discount bin.
Hollywood doesn't care if these things are remembered even a year later these days. Why would anyone expect they'd put the effort into making something of a quality that will be still viewed decades later?
it´s just like fastfood with most movies. Really sad, that (most) movie makers don´t make movies anymore with focus on creating art or something lasting
Love it when you and Doomcock are on together, you both are fun together!
I never realized how talented Doomcock is at accents and reciting movie lines. He underutilizes that expertise in his standard content. I kinda wish he wasn't so straight jacketed into that character in his channel.
Temple of Doom always felt like it was made specifically for kids like me, I was heavy into horror at a young age and as awesome as indy is, the best bits for me are the gory bits like the end of raiders, temple of Doom scratches that itch.
That film is the reason we have PG-13
I don’t think Indy was awkward around women. In Marion’s bar he was very cool about their relationship, rather Bondish in fact. When Marion was tearing into him, he basically says.” I did what I did, it happened. I can only apologise so many times. Either shut up about it or get over it kid” The thing that made him uncomfortable at the University was the fact that it was one of his students that was hitting on him. His student, not some woman. We also see him in TLC being rather suave with the lady Doctor (I can’t think of her name atm) and although she was trying to seduce him, he admits that he was doing the same thing to her.So Doomcock saying that Indiana doesn’t work in TOD because he was awkward around women and wasn’t a ladies man just doesn’t hold water for me.
Totally agree. Always thought of Indiana Jones as a lady’s man. Very bond-ish like you said.
@@TheGreekPapa You're both very right. As a matter of fact, it was a conscious choice from Spielberg since he couldn't do an official Bond film but always wanted to. And I'm pretty certain I've heard him mention once that at the beginning of Raiders, when Marcus comes and visits Indy at his home, a scene was deleted where Indy was in fact already having champagne and courting a woman (possibly the "I love you" student from earlier, but I could be wrong) which is why the bottle is already opened when Marcus enters the room.
I agree. I think they totally misinterpreted that situation.
Exactly. There were a few moments throughout this video where the duo made questionable remarks...
1/ The aforementioned case of them saying that Indy was awkward around women in Raiders (as you correctly stated, Indy was distracted and flummoxed because it was one of his student's doing that, during one of his lectures... not because she was a woman in love with him).
2/ Them saying that they "THINK that Elsa intentionally chose the wrong grail for Donovan to drink out of of" in The Last Crusade. I mean... no sh!t, Sherlock! That's obviously the entire point of that scene and yet you're not sure?!
3/ Critical Drinker saying "I don't know why Ray Winstone keeps getting work". I mean, FFS! Ray Winstone is a wonderful actor. Maybe Critical Drinker should try watching some great films such as 'Scum', 'Nil By Mouth' and 'Sexy Beast' before making outrageous comments like that. The problem with Mac as a character was the way in which he was written. It's not Ray Winstone's fault that he had to work with terrible dialogue and nonsensical character motivations.
@@Right_Said_BrettRay Winstone as Arnie French was great in The Departed
The intro and all of the Jungle Scenes to Raiders of the Lost Ark was filmed on my Home Island of Kauai, Hawaii. And all of the Shots where you see Indy from the back, before his face reveal, was actually a Friend of mine who stood in as a Body Double for Harrison Ford. I don’t think Harrison was even on the Island yet at that Point. Because my friend hasn’t ever met him. Just the Film Crew….
Ahhh! The Magic of Cinema! 😅
The knight said the Crest was the limit of immortality
Just loving this discussion. It's like y'all are reading my mind. Indy's original trilogy is one of my favorites of all time. Huge thanks to both of you.
I know it's out of the voice-processed character, but it's so great to hear the man behind Doomcock talking about things he loves.
And Temple of Doom is great. Of course Indy doesn't behave like Indy from Raiders, because it happens earlier. I got no problem with that. I kinda always saw the finale of that one as Indy growing into the guy he is in Raiders. He's struggling to climb up, has the bad guy on him, and manages to prevail after he lets go (of most) of what he was chasing after.
There are no bad movies in the Indy trilogy.
I was about 12. After church one Sunday, our youth pastor took a group of us to the movies. I watched this movie with my 3 brothers and was amazed. We never said a word and it’s still one of my favorites… Next we saw Tron!
Moloram’s custom design was brilliant. He’s got a cow skull on his head, which is just creepy in general, but out right blasphemous to a Hindu. Just brilliant visual storytelling.
Ooohh I never considered that 😳😱
Yeah, I suppose it’s kinda the Hindu equivalent of Anton LaVey prancing around in his High Priest of Satan getup or something
That’s what I never understood why some people (mainly white leftist) complain that it is misrepresenting Hindu culture. It was always meant to be a perversion of it from the start. Moloram was basically an equivalent to a satanist. Just people be ignorant
Right, well they obviously missed the memo that these are just escapist fantasy stories. No one thinks that they’re depicting real things. You notice of course that they take no offense to pretty much every white person being a cartoonish super-Nazi or a Nazi collaborator.
Now, where things get really weird is that the post-colonialism thought of “easternism” would insist the other direction in stereotyping. Take Shang Chi, for example. This is a movie for Chinese people, starring Chinese people, about Chinese things. So what’s the story going to be about? Well, our lead is involved with a super-secret society of magical Kung fu killers who has to travel to the land of mystical-bull shit and dragons to win the approval of his father and restore the balance of Confusionist familial ethics. It certainly wouldn’t click with Chinese people to portray China and Chinese culture as a sophisticated and highly advanced place where people trend towards highly valuing education, hard work, and excel in STEM fields. No, no, no, that would be craaaazy. That would be enforcing the hegemonic influences of their former oppressors and their values into them, because there’s just nooooo way anyone else on the planet values science and mathematics besides the Europeans! Certainly no one else would come to that way of thinking without them destroying their cultural heritage and “natural” trajectory! China’s all about Kung fu, mysticism, and philosophizing about life and nature in a silk robe and funny hat.
I’m convinced that if Indy actually made it to Deli, and it was anything other than Ghandi, Mother Theresa, and a magical yogi floating outside the Taj Mahal, they would cry foul.
Indiana Jones was one of my first Hollywood film experiences. Growing up in Denmark during the 80s, TV was utter shite, so my folks rented Indiana Jones. I was a happy 7-year-old.
I honestly never realized that Temple of Doom was a prequel.
No one mentioned that the dreaded Kathleen Kennedy of Lucasfilm fame was one of the dancers in the "Anything Goes" musical number.
Ugh
I love the LEGO Indiana Jones game where Willy's special power is screaming. Great game.
Wowzers I didn't know!! Is it on ps4? And does it follow the formula of the marvel/star wars/Harry potter/LOTR?
It was on PS 3. It might be Available to download. It's well worth playing.
@@johncadden202 nice
Willy's special power should be marrying the Director!
16:23 the Drinker points out each movie dealt with a different religion.
Raiders of the Lost Ark was Judaism
Temple of Doom was Hinduism
The Last Crusade was Christianity
I wonder what Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was? Scientology?
I could listen to you two talk about this stuff all day. Good stuff fellas 👍
Raiders of the Los Ark is the only movie that I hid between the seats after first viewing so I could watch it twice (I was a kid and didn't have enough $ to get another ticket). Doomcock, same with me. Had no idea what to expect. Best overall movie ever!
You're me and my two mates; we did exactly the same--but every day throughout the school holidays
Anyone get the sense Doomcock is Nerdrotic’s alter ego?
Naw, Gary could never sing that well. :)
Everyone knows in the last crusade the old Knight did maintenance on the leap of faith part of the test 😂 poor bugger needed something to do for the hundreds of years he was there 😂
Donovan In Last Crusade, General Veers in Empire Strikes Back, and Grand Maester Pycelle in Game of Thrones. Not bad, Julian Glover.
And Dr. Livesy in Treasure Island
Speilberg borrowed Wolfgang Peterson's submarine he was using to shoot "Das Boot".
I honestly believe that Willie was fantastic. Granted they gave her the blond air-head role, but despite this she did a great job. To me she was head and shoulders above that chick from last Crusade (Elsa). Far more personable. I love the scene when Indy & short round are playing cards while Willie is running about screaming her head off. Hellarious 🤣🤣
I think people forget most women would act like her in those nightmarish situations
I absolutely love the scene where Indy is beating up the Thugee slave driver, Short Round is beating up the possessed Maharaja, and Willie is doing air punches and giving them "moral support"!
Kate Capshaw who played Willie was in Temple of Doom and Dreamscape in 1984 so she got to play opposite Harrison Ford and Dennis Quaid in their prime and she met Steven Spielberg, her future husband, so I figure that must have been a good year for her.
Temple of Doom is still my favorite. It's a pure, don't think, action film.
Its 2.scenes being cut from being 10/10
It was pretty enjoyable. A much darker adventure than Raiders. Short Round was precious. Also, Kate Capshaw was ridiculously sexy in it.
@@ronniejdio9411 which scenes would you remove?
@@grindelston5968 1. Chilled monkey brains
2. Any scene where willy screams indy. Not all scenes. Just one. Its too much.. just pick one at random
YES! doomcock + drinker = dream team.
good to see him back on the channel
I am so pissed of at the world right now that I just scream occasionally.
Thank you for saving my neighbors ears good sir!
Absolutely great discussion of the film and breakdown of the parts. I'd point out two really important ones that you skipped. The first was during the discussion with the government agents when Indy mentioned Tannis. He briefly explained the history including the fact that once they returned with the Ark the city was hit with sandstorm that lasted until everything and everyone was wiped off the face of the earth. Talk about awesome foreshadowing....
Second was just a little more depth to belloch as a character when the Nazi threw her into the pit and he almost got himself shot because he was protesting and saying she was supposed to be his. Then he took the time to tell her he was sorry and you can tell he actually meant it. He was an amoral person, But not an evil one. I'm sure if he could have had his way Indy would have been kept alive to be able to find out what was in the ark as a sign of respect and he would have taken Marion with him because of his actual attraction and affection for her. Very nice writing moments.
I’ve got a feeling Critical and Doomcock have watched RAIDERS a couple of times.
As everyone worldwide should.
Temple of Doom is great!
Hell Yeah it is!
The call back to the 1930s adventure movies and literature with the Raiders franchise is amazing...If you watch Turner Classic movie channel you see so many parallels and story beats...It is timeless fun that any generation can enjoy...Indy is smart but tough...thoughtful but brave.
The AMC multiplex in Oceanside, CA played Raiders for over a year. I saw it opening weekend, not really knowing what to expect other than that Spielberg and Lucas were involved. A twelve year old mind was blown that day, and I first became conscious of how cinematography , editing, writing, music and acting all came together to produce cinematic excellence. Saw it 9 times that summer. Great times!
Great stream guys! I was born in '67 so that entire arc of great film from Star Wars to T2 was mine/ours to revel in.
1:04:32 - the weapon Indy has there is a Soviet RPG-2 (late 1950s). I think you're right, I think they were going for a German Panzerfaust (1944) since you can see the cone-shaped warhead protruding from the end of the weapon, which yes, would also be an anachronism. It's all fine, Belloq saves the scene when he eats the bug. :D :D :D
I love Raiders so much, and appreciate that anyone who went to Sunday school (or Hebrew school, I suppose) and remembers the early events of the Books of Samuel gets to be in on a bit of an insider foreshadowing: treating the Ark of the Covenant like it’s some kinda lucky charm? Ignoring the *very* specific instructions for how to handle it? Not gonna go well for you, my dude.
It's too bad none of the Nazis are immediately struck dead when they touch it to remove the mercy seat.
Well, it is still a movie after all, and the lights and face-melting and such does look s great lol
I really like doomcock in these discussions. He’s a smart guy and isn’t engaging in what I suspect are made up rumors from made up sources that are always wrong.
His commentary here is excellent, informative and insightful.
I agree. I like this side of Doomcock that we get when he’s on other people’s streams. Still can’t make it through his normal content though.
but all he does is engage in bullshit rumors that are always wrong, him discussing movies is a rarity now
Pat Roach aka the Bomber, remember watching him wrestling in the UK in the 1980s.
@@karlos8883 Never Say Never Again.
Directed by Irvin Kershner.
You two are favorites of mine- fun show. Good job guys
Fun fact I eventually realized, the Toht character was essentially a 1 for 1 recreation of a character Peter Lori played in one of the invisible man sequels, where he was supposed to be a Japanese agent working with the Nazis.
When you see Lori in the role it seems impossible that they didn't have him in mind when they cast that character.
In Temple of Doom, Indiana was not interested in attaining "fortune and glory" for himself. He felt sympathy for the villagers and their plight and was thus motivated to bring back the stones and free the children. Also, being an archaeologist, he was genuinely interested in the stones and wanted to see them for himself. Also, while I think of it, what's so bad about Indiana stumbling into adventures? I like to imagine that this sort of thing happens to him occasionally while he's off seeing to his main objective. One last thing - the elder of the village claims that their God was guiding Indiana and his companions to India and was protecting them along the way, so seeing as Indiana Jones is set in a world where the supernatural exists, I can go along with the far fetched means of their arrival to India.
I agree man. I don’t get the hate
One of the greatest movie franchises ever made. Lol
Yeah?
Don’t call me that, dad.
But that’s you’re name. Henry Jones Jr.
I prefer Indiana.
We named the dog Indiana.
The dog? You were named after the dog? Huh huh!
I have a lot of fond memories of that dog.
Little known fact. Up until Crystal Skull the only actor to appear in all three Indiana Jones films apart from Ford was Pat Roach. He had two roles in Raiders - Sherpa in bar and Nazi bald guy who gets it in the face. He then played the guard in the caves in the second, and in the third Spielberg gave him an extra role in the scene with Alexi Sayle (Roach was dying of cancer at this time). But still, he's the only actor to have appeared in the first three with Ford.
Temple of Doom was on TV an hour ago here in Japan! Awesome movie for 37 years old
The Venice boat scenes were filmed in Tilbury, Essex, UK for The Last Crusade
My dogs named Indiana. This was great can tell you guys really love these movies .👍👍👍
1977 to 1997 was the golden age of cinema. Almost every major IP still being milked today started during those two decades.
1977? As I remember, movies pretty much stunk. I could be wrong, I can't remember one good movie that ever came out of that time.
@@theequalizer9154 Star Wars ;) Soon after came Alien in 79. After that is when things really got going.
Speak of Pat Roach, when are we getting a review of Auf Wiedersehen Pet?
Best TV series ever
I saw Last Crusade first growing up. I’ve wanted to go to Venice ever since, but so many people have told me it’s not what it used to be. Pushing 40, I still haven’t made it.
Go. All you have to do is make the arrangements. Or, save up for it and just set a date and go! Go have a good time. Life is meant to be enjoyed, not worried about, not toiled. If you don't, you will always regret it for the rest of your life. Go!
Harrison Ford came up with just shooting the swordsman.
You guys are severely underrating Temple of Doom. How can you say it doesn't feel like Indiana Jones? Its Indy at his swashbuckling, archaeological explorer at his best!
Exactly!
Couldn’t agree more. Was shocked when doomcock said that.
It does the swashbuckling action right, yeah, but the character is inconsistent with the previous movie, that's why they didn't like it as much.
Outstanding as usual… but doomcock disguising his voice like that, I prefer my future ruler of earth to have that basso profundo voice 😏
One of the Grail Knights "died of extreme old age" in France, so it follows that the Grail bestowed longevity outside of the Temple.
I think the immortality is not temple bound, but requires you drink from the Grail regularly, and the Grail IS bound to the temple.
My two favourite guys! what a treat listening to two passionate movie fans.
Last Crusade is my favourite because of the dad aspect and Sean Connery.
Love the Indy trilogy. I believe Indy always being skeptical of mythology is a purposeful cinematic trope that George and Steven wanted in the films.
I can swear doomcock is Jeff Daniels...voice is spot on
The Marvel comic of Raiders covers the trip back to the island. Yes they run on the diesel engines, submerged but with the periscope up. At first Indy thinks they're going to fully submerge, so panics, but realises they're going to run with the scope, so lashes himself to it with his whip. Which was supposed to be in the film, but was clearly cut for time.
They ran on batteries when submerged and it limited their speed and range.
@@TheVCRTimeMachine Only when deeply submerged. When they ran at periscope depth they ran on their diesel engine with an air vent and exhaust exposed. So OK the comic got it wrong as it only showed the periscope exposed. But then I doubt you'd want to lash yourself to the exhaust for risk of prolonged carbon monoxide exposure.
@@stevegreenway1796 I don't think you can die off desiel fumes but don't quote me on that.
His main problem being lashed on to the exhaust would be being burnt from the heat
@@grindelston5968 not diesel fumes, carbon monoxide! Yeah diesel engines are more efficient at burning off its fuel, so produces less CO, prolonged exposure is still fatal.
And pretty certain a mainly submerged UBoat exhaust would be cold. Have you seen how long these exhaust are? They're huge
Gutted I missed the whole original livestream but glad to be back for the catch up.
In Raiders, The South American corridor (equipped with deadly spikes and darts) wasn't 'magic' to stay out of the light. Indy strongly suspected pressure stones in the floor, and never fully trusted his helper. Indy used the 'light' to throw off his helper while pushing down a pressure stone.
Everything at the end of Last Crusade excluding the Grail power wasn't magic, but sophisticated illusions. The 'Path of God' was a perspective illusion. The 'Breath of God' may have had the same type of mechanism as the South American corridor, but with a delayed release of the blades.
There are so many Raiders hark backs in Last Crusade.
Follow me Indy! I know the way!
Got lost in his own museum, eh?
When I first saw Raiders, I was a little late and came in when they were in the cave w/ Alfred Molina. I thought the previous screening was running late and that was the climax of the movie.
New video idea: Why "All Good Things..." (the finale of Star Trek: The Next Generatiom) is a masterpiece.
That’s my favorite episode of television! I agree!
Drinker. You should do either Spaceballs or Blazing Saddles. I love those two films.
To DC and Drinker, WW2 submarines are surface vessels primarily, they only submerge for under special circumstances normally in war. WW2 Subs needed air for their diesil engines and travelled much faster on the surface than underwater using battery power. So the plot hole about the sub only being on the surface is not a plot hole at all. You are probably thinking of modern sub which stays submerged most of the time.
Really enjoyed listening to two people who love the art of cinema indulge in a series they thoroughly enjoyed (mostly).
Have listened over a few car journeys and this has made me wish I could have joined in on the chat.
My personal favourite of the series is the last crusade. Should have remained the final movie of indy’s story.
Didn't realise how fast-paced Raiders was until a rewatch recently. As you intimated, nothing is wasted in the script; there's no throwaway bollocks or statements just for the sake of it - just a tightly-written script that takes us on an adventure from beginning to end.
Regarding the climax to Raiders, I think the power of the ark-opening scene is that it shows what happens on the level of divine power. The human actors have done all they can and exhausted all their options, which brings them all to the climactic, single choice of opening, which must be done by humans with human motivations; but what happens afterward is literally an act of God. The principle of the Nazis - that nothing stands above totalitarian will - is tested against the essential principle of divinity - that the divine power which surpasses humanity is itself a conscious power, not merely mindless energy that can be used in the pursuit of any goal, all of which are objectively equal.
This is of course foreshadowed by the clear communication that the power of the ark does not like the Nazi regime when that power burns out the swastika on the crate it is sheathed in.
Saw it on its opening weekend. Only film I ever saw that, upon exiting the theater, I felt blown away
I remember seeing Raiders at the cinema when it first came out (I was 14) and then at a later date going round my mates house where his uncle was visiting - his uncle being Terry Richards, who played the Arabian swordsman (the one Indie shoots)
my kids loved these they are timeless indeed
No matter how many times I watch it and at this point it's been hundreds every time that real pretty ghost floats up and stares right at the camera and turns herself into a skeleton it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up and I get goosebumps all over
I got through 1 episode of Terriers and I was so disgusted with the main characters I didn’t continue.
My two favorite movie in the trilogy are Raiders and the Last Crusade
Good morning! Here in the US anyways
Filmmakers who made films in the old days seemed to LOVE film, at least the good ones. Filmmakers today seem to love THEMSELVES. Big difference.
The wierd thing is I grew up in the 90s but I discovered the fantastic 80s movies era as an adult so many great movies with practical effects Aliens 1986, Indiana Jones, The Thing 1982, The Blob 1986, Evil dead, Gremlins, American Werewolf in London 1981 etc. To me it was the peak of practical effects and stunt work
Something I noticed watching Raiders last night: Sallah shouts out "Henry!" as Indy is being lowered down into the snake pit.