Classical Saxophone Snob Attempts Jazz Saxophone

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2020
  • The purpose of this video (featuring Jesse Shelton) is to have you cringe at least a few times from sayings that may be too... familiar. I hope it worked! But don't worry: Jazz snobs can be just as bad! It's coming. Thank you for 55.3K subs!
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  • @insaneintherainmusic
    @insaneintherainmusic 3 года назад +6802

    Okay this one got me good... I lost it at 5:28

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +624

      The master has spoken again!

    • @ethanburton9180
      @ethanburton9180 3 года назад +163

      @@Saxologic That lick sounded like Glazunov. Have you ever heard of it?

    • @Zofer-1920
      @Zofer-1920 3 года назад +22

      insaneintherainmusic me too! 😆🤣

    • @jamesstrader4063
      @jamesstrader4063 3 года назад +74

      @@ethanburton9180 Glizzynov

    • @louislameck9128
      @louislameck9128 3 года назад +19

      @@Saxologic *ODIN IS WITH US*

  • @brotherkabeer8877
    @brotherkabeer8877 3 года назад +6981

    Asks for sheet music
    Closes eyes

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +570

      Oops lol

    • @-Fenixx-
      @-Fenixx- 3 года назад +235

      Telepathic sheet music was sent

    • @IAmPriority
      @IAmPriority 3 года назад +43

      That’s what makes it so much harder to read than changes

    • @ethanm3480
      @ethanm3480 3 года назад +41

      Legend has it that he only needs one glance and memorizes everything. Even the second page which he can’t even see

    • @samschellhase8831
      @samschellhase8831 3 года назад +3

      I play bass, it’s just chords. The entire song. I got better over the years in highschool, but it’s awful when you play a wrong note 🙃

  • @devinsaenger2392
    @devinsaenger2392 3 года назад +5374

    Regardless of his satire he’s actually a really great classical saxophonist

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +405

      thanks!!

    • @Ardjano234
      @Ardjano234 3 года назад +11

      No! Keep it 666 likes!

    • @evanbarr9270
      @evanbarr9270 3 года назад +4

      Yes I actually love legit

    • @IsaacW.
      @IsaacW. 3 года назад +23

      By satire you mean jazz?

    • @devinsaenger2392
      @devinsaenger2392 3 года назад +2

      Isaac W you could say it’s subjective

  • @innocentoctave
    @innocentoctave 3 года назад +921

    Main takeaways from this: 1) classical and jazz sax make very different demands on technique; 2) classical sax doesn't sound like 'sax' - it sounds more like clarinet, horn or even bassoon; and 3) classical sax in tone and phrasing sounds much more like early jazz styles than later jazz styles (after swing).
    Because modern jazz draws so heavily on jazz from Parker/Gillespie onwards, we seem to have internalized the bop and post-bop sound as what 'sax' sounds like. it doesn't have to be that way.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +137

      Wonderfully open mind you have!

    • @innocentoctave
      @innocentoctave 3 года назад +5

      @@Saxologic Thank you. Try this: ruclips.net/video/tDsCZFimAuE/видео.html No sax, but I think you'll appreciate the solos.

    • @DruNature
      @DruNature 3 года назад +16

      as more a music producer than a musician this video was eye opening to say the least. I can't help but think that Jazz, like metal would simply not exist without classical and really the roots run deep.

    • @MingusDynastyy
      @MingusDynastyy 3 года назад +4

      Sounds a lot like some sections in Mingus's pieces

    • @SadChimchar
      @SadChimchar 3 года назад +3

      @@innocentoctave can you give me some examples of that early jazz sound? For the sax

  • @MikaeIe90
    @MikaeIe90 3 года назад +424

    The constant eye rolls, shoulder shrugs, and “swinging” did it for me lol

    • @dartfamily3409
      @dartfamily3409 3 года назад +7

      The dude’s seriously pissing me off. Idk why, its just a video.

  • @vigilancebrandon3888
    @vigilancebrandon3888 3 года назад +2897

    The way he scrunches his shoulders every time he plays 😂

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +161

      I hope you loved it!

    • @vigilancebrandon3888
      @vigilancebrandon3888 3 года назад +31

      Saxologic i did

    • @lejazz6938
      @lejazz6938 3 года назад +18

      Well he should raise his arms too, while playing...we used to call it 'armpit music'... ;)

    • @zhongxina8426
      @zhongxina8426 3 года назад +6

      and his eyebrows😂

    • @mydjmode
      @mydjmode 3 года назад +1

      Oh man he had me laughing so hard! 🤣

  • @Gabriel_Micah
    @Gabriel_Micah 3 года назад +3768

    dude sounded more like a clarinet than a sax with that round tone LOL

    • @TheVoitel
      @TheVoitel 3 года назад +197

      That’s what a saxophone sounds like. You might be most familiar with the typical modern jazz solo sound, which emphasizes a more free and less controlled style of playing, lots of articulation specific to jazz (and only little classical articulation) and bright, penetrating sound. It is in some way less elegant and musical, but more rough and bold, which is what you want in this style (and makes a lot of sense, for in jazz you’d usually have gigs in places where things like soft dynamics do not matter, but you need a sound that carries over a band, bad acoustics and background noise).
      But in conventional saxophone playing the standard tone is something in between clarinet, violoncello and cor anglais, the soprano more like oboe and trumpet, the bari and lower like bassoon, horn, and double bass. Especially due to the control a good player has over the brightness and the shape of the sound (vibrato, articulation), a saxophone can do quite a lot of different sounds in classical style, especially in an ensemble. A bari can produce a sound quite similar to a violoncello in character, it can sound like a bassoon, like a horn, or whatever. A soprano can sound like a trumpet.

    • @Ardjano234
      @Ardjano234 3 года назад +40

      Because it has to blend with an orchestra

    • @TheVoitel
      @TheVoitel 3 года назад +6

      @Doppelpunktdrei I humbly ask you to accept my apology.

    • @ryansanders9273
      @ryansanders9273 3 года назад +16

      TheVoitel u should say classical sax playing, or like “the idiom for X time period” but not conventional. That presupposes the idea that the classical practice (or any practice) is the musical standard when it definitely is not.

    • @TheVoitel
      @TheVoitel 3 года назад +7

      @@ryansanders9273 But there is no such thing as classical practice. Especially in modern classical music you need to be able to be very versatile
      So for me it makes sense to categorize into conventional playing as the instrument was intended for, and modern play styles such as jazz and contemporary classical technique.

  • @mazobojo
    @mazobojo 3 года назад +2458

    For a “Classical” player he swings a lot lol

    • @pacoltrane
      @pacoltrane 3 года назад +191

      I think he is emphasizing beats 1 and 3 on purpose most of the time and mocking extreme estacatto, quite the opposite to swing (at least from a technical point of view). Well, obviously the guy can play jazz, so he had to do an effort and slipped some times, heh.

    • @David-ee9nc
      @David-ee9nc 3 года назад +35

      Feels like 40s jazz and th he one in the right or modern jazz. I'm an orchestra player, I dont really know what I'm talking about.

    • @KbIPbIL0
      @KbIPbIL0 3 года назад +7

      It's his interpretation xD

    • @trumpetplayerrayden7631
      @trumpetplayerrayden7631 3 года назад +16

      @@David-ee9nc he’s doing more of like what you’d see as a jazz ww1 era, where they liked to do emphasized swing with a dark tone before Benny Goodman and loui Armstrong came in to the picture

    • @pizzasteveplayingthesax
      @pizzasteveplayingthesax 2 года назад +3

      My dude, that is not swing. That is a dotted eighth sixteenth used in modern classical to imitate swing.

  • @kingamphibian8645
    @kingamphibian8645 3 года назад +144

    I love to think that the classical guy just walks around with his concert attire on at all times

  • @FoolishFrankie
    @FoolishFrankie 3 года назад +1553

    Omg the “swing” on the Charlie Parker lick had me dead 😂😂

    • @jackburnette4883
      @jackburnette4883 3 года назад +30

      seriously, i'm playing billy's bounce right now and that sent a shiver down my spine.

    • @lilibethsalazarmartinez915
      @lilibethsalazarmartinez915 3 года назад +17

      Show me dumb ways to destroy my reeds 7w7

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie 3 года назад +5

      lilibeth 8088 Omggg you’ve seen those videos that’s so funny 😂😂

    • @jakebickham123
      @jakebickham123 3 года назад +8

      @@ericolens3 That is the best shitpost I've ever seen.

    • @GuboGuo
      @GuboGuo 3 года назад

      Koko?

  • @onesyphorus
    @onesyphorus 3 года назад +1920

    _"If you have the sheet music written down,"_ BIG "IF"

    • @micahslobcrud5958
      @micahslobcrud5958 3 года назад +15

      That's the joke part, eh? I recall at the 1991 NFA (National Flute Convention) in D.C., there were various cats floating their wares, and this cat from Trenton, NJ, whose name I forget but whose book I bought, did a demo, and he played written out solos on jazz chord changes (he handed out a sheet to all assembled to hear his "Schpiel" with the selection he was gonna play with notes and all writ out) and I had to smack my hand against my mouth when someone in the crowd said, after he had finished playing along with his tape, (yes, tape back then)...she said "I see you played notes that weren't in the score." How hard it was to keep from bursting out laughing, although I'm sure somebody in that crowd must've laughed with me. It was a highlight ot the convention for me. Sheesh! it's all music, eh?? Let go, embrace new stuff! You or I may not like certain forms of new music, but so what? IT HAS EVER BEEN THUS ! Beethoven was ridiculed, Chopin was, too, and sadly, becuz we have no press of indigenous cultures long ago (nor indigenous cultures in the HERE AND NOW), we know nothing of their genius in the musical realms, for, as Eric Dolphy said..."When it's gone, in the air, you can never capture it again." By this I do not mean to NOT call attention to the vast musical cultures around this world, but I ask myself and yourself...didja try sumpin new musically today? if so, good. Here's an ideer for the west---look up AINU music from Northern Japan. Look up Bollywood music from India, look up punk rock from Germany in the 1980's (like Tanzdiele or Tanzdiebe).. how about Bulgarian Rap? There is never enuf time to absorb the WOILD, but recall that it is better to focus on a few things than to spread your time in too many endeavors--I speak from experience, at 61. We study books and learn licks and try to emulate, but the reality calling you is "BE YOURSELF." Music is a deeply spiritual path, and to find your own voice seems disheartening manytimes, but YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE. YOUR MUSIC May not be loved in this lifetime, but so what? You'll be back to try again, but no matta, for fame is dangerous and so is lotsa money. And when you have money or fame or both, there will be Forces trying to get you to do things that you don't want to do. And remember how it was to just create your own little idea, in your own space, maybe with friends or maybve alone, but that is VERY different than being world famous and bothered by wacko fans.! Peace and love to all who've read this far!

    • @gordylan04
      @gordylan04 3 года назад +1

      Micah Slobcrud what

    • @anobesewalnut8yearsago994
      @anobesewalnut8yearsago994 3 года назад +1

      II YoloChips II exactly what I’m thinking 😂

    • @anobesewalnut8yearsago994
      @anobesewalnut8yearsago994 3 года назад +4

      Micah Slobcrud u good?

    • @timhnichols
      @timhnichols 3 года назад

      What you actually found the sheet music? #blowsthedustoff

  • @jaredisalobster6438
    @jaredisalobster6438 3 года назад +1248

    How come Jesse looks like he's at a lower resolution than the rest of the screen?

    • @peterkeys1105
      @peterkeys1105 3 года назад +83

      Sitting slightly closer to the camera, slightly out of focus

    • @TDo280199
      @TDo280199 3 года назад +79

      Rare insult

    • @Zyborggian
      @Zyborggian 3 года назад +3

      "I AM... ____"

    • @zebmiller510
      @zebmiller510 3 года назад +6

      by the order of the galactic senate, you are under arrest

    • @yomamasaccount
      @yomamasaccount 3 года назад

      Sitting out of focus

  • @gxtmfa
    @gxtmfa 3 года назад +458

    Classical saxophonists confuse me. There’s just way less repertoire and celebration of the instrument in classical music. I’m seriously convinced orchestral composers just have some sort of bizarre, inborn hatred of the Sax because it’s a truly agile, versatile, and beautiful instrument that can blend well amongst woodwinds and brass, but the old masters of orchestral composition we revere today severely neglected to include the Sax in so many of their works.

    • @rinkokonoe8644
      @rinkokonoe8644 3 года назад +38

      Cuz sax is so new

    • @gothiccircle4283
      @gothiccircle4283 3 года назад +64

      Because it didn’t exist until the early 1840’s.

    • @mechwarrior5727
      @mechwarrior5727 3 года назад +17

      There's a bunch of history behind it
      As for rep, play clarinet, oboe or bassoon parts, allows a lot of rep that already exists, but problems arise of course

    • @classicalytrumpet9190
      @classicalytrumpet9190 3 года назад +31

      All the people who controlled the orchestras and paid the composers really dislike the guy who invented the sax so the composers and orchestras didnt use saxes because they wanted to get paid. Then it just became normal to not have saxes and it hasnt really changed because a lot of orchestras are rooted in “tradition”

    • @spicywind8607
      @spicywind8607 3 года назад +12

      A) It's relatively new compared to most orchestral instruments
      B) Yes, there were some composers who were put off the Saxophone during the 19th century, but the 20th century brought a lot of orchestral Saxaphone to the stage.

  • @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ
    @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ 3 года назад +1666

    The classical guy is having way more fun than the Jazz guy

    • @haydenmarshall3175
      @haydenmarshall3175 3 года назад +296

      Trust me that’s not the case irl 😂

    • @neodavinci4646
      @neodavinci4646 3 года назад +24

      Ignorence is bliss

    • @raymonds7492
      @raymonds7492 3 года назад +55

      Classical music is like Religiously sanctioned missionary sex. It has its own beauty but she’s gonna cheat.

    • @williamshackleford4377
      @williamshackleford4377 3 года назад +9

      The classical guy is helping his friend make a video, the jazz guy deals with this in real life on the daily.

    • @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ
      @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ 3 года назад +7

      @@williamshackleford4377 I don't think that there are enough classical players to see one daily

  • @thegoodgeneral
    @thegoodgeneral 3 года назад +72

    The jamming session was super fun. Satire yes, but it made me think a “dueling saxophones” piece with chamber orchestra and jazz trio would be super fun.

  • @leonardobarrios9291
    @leonardobarrios9291 3 года назад +435

    “If you have the sheet music written down”
    :plays with eyes closed

    • @ithinkmallardsarecool5859
      @ithinkmallardsarecool5859 3 года назад +4

      Stolen comment

    • @scumemg8021
      @scumemg8021 3 года назад +4

      @@ithinkmallardsarecool5859 fr lmao. Right under the original. Mfs do anything for likes. Just like Twitter fr.

  • @fdaehbcswcfaqgh576
    @fdaehbcswcfaqgh576 3 года назад +10608

    Jazz is cool but have you ever played a tritone in a church

    • @Roxanneredpanda
      @Roxanneredpanda 3 года назад +134

      I mean in Jazz you do often play tritones

    • @Fmajor7
      @Fmajor7 3 года назад +70

      👁👁👄👄👁👁

    • @hedgesolo4977
      @hedgesolo4977 3 года назад +82

      I literally laughed so hard, I'm not kidding

    • @abnelhidalgo1784
      @abnelhidalgo1784 3 года назад +25

      All the time 😎

    • @viperdragz4403
      @viperdragz4403 3 года назад +117

      Daniel thrasher intensifies

  • @KleinkMusic
    @KleinkMusic 3 года назад +1039

    Okay jokes aside you have an amazing classical sound.

  • @eclipz3634
    @eclipz3634 2 года назад +43

    Nathan: wants the sheet music for everything
    Also Nathan: *closes eyes intensely every second*

  • @mcerruti77
    @mcerruti77 3 года назад +79

    He is making everything sound like Gershwin...😂

    • @mogmason6920
      @mogmason6920 3 года назад +8

      The scoops at 4:06 are just straight-up Gershwin!

    • @danielzalo5593
      @danielzalo5593 3 года назад +1

      Exactly 😂

  • @gavinm9249
    @gavinm9249 3 года назад +694

    the amount of shit I’d gotten when i played a cannonball omg it’s like people don’t realize I’m ballin on a budget

    • @RogelioEscobar
      @RogelioEscobar 3 года назад +17

      Nothing wrong with Cannonball. I am very happy with my Vintage Reborn Alto.
      It was the closest I found to a 1958 Mark VI Selmer I used to own (badly relacquered, tons of physical and mechanical issues). Its just a little brighter but has very similar tone color.
      They are great horns.

    • @MaxDad7
      @MaxDad7 3 года назад +28

      There's some high level players in the industry that play Cannonball. There's nothing wrong with them man.

    • @bigsnozitaliano9494
      @bigsnozitaliano9494 3 года назад +7

      Only thing I have a problem with is that if you don’t get the right jazz mouth piece, some of the notes are either quite flat or somewhat sharp, the stock mouth piece works just fine though lol

    • @carlostrevino1359
      @carlostrevino1359 3 года назад +3

      I love my cannonball I play on a gerald albright edition I like it even more than selmer or Yamahas

    • @bigsnozitaliano9494
      @bigsnozitaliano9494 3 года назад +1

      Freddy Trevino yooooooo same. But I’ve played on a professional selmer and let me tell you, I thought about buying it on the spot! Since I’m a lead alto I love being loud, and you can blow so much more air into that thing, and it sounds a little less bright

  • @kseebees94
    @kseebees94 3 года назад +354

    4:54 is actually so brilliant though, how he took your "wrong" note and made it right

    • @bushDid911
      @bushDid911 2 года назад +4

      music noob here, what's the wrong note he plays? in what phrase? please help me understand

    • @Lurcii
      @Lurcii 2 года назад +12

      @@bushDid911 there isn’t a wrong note that is why the commenter put it in “” because the point of that jazz part was to make it “wrong” and then slur up to the “correct note” but to do that specific slur on the saxophone and make it sound good is pretty hard. Hope that makes sense

    • @DHawkBeats
      @DHawkBeats 2 года назад +1

      Ikr I caught that and was like yoo that’s genius

  • @aka_Jdizzle
    @aka_Jdizzle 3 года назад +17

    “Only if you have the sheet music printed” **proceeds to close eyes every time**

  • @TomMilleyMusic
    @TomMilleyMusic 3 года назад +36

    5:02 - 5:08 dear god that got me good lmao

  • @Kizzercrate
    @Kizzercrate 3 года назад +673

    This was 100% my college saxophone experience. Great documentary LOL

  • @ninoky6525
    @ninoky6525 3 года назад +466

    The S L A P P tongue was hilarious

  • @DJAnthrocide
    @DJAnthrocide 2 года назад +2

    Is it just me or do I like BOTH of these guys??? Classical dude's tone is beautiful, his phrasing is melodious w/ just a hint of irony and humor, he's very, very good...

  • @savannahmallery7066
    @savannahmallery7066 3 года назад +54

    Classical saxophonists just always sound like they’re trying not to be a saxophone player

    • @Caillouteletub123
      @Caillouteletub123 2 года назад +8

      Jazz flutiste always sound like they're not trying to play the flute.

    • @theresachacon1122
      @theresachacon1122 2 года назад

      @@Caillouteletub123 Exactly why I leave flute for concert and marching band only.

  • @cashwarior
    @cashwarior 3 года назад +293

    I love how he's just sitting there like "oh okay I guess we're doing this now"

  • @frannymae4340
    @frannymae4340 3 года назад +3925

    Being a classical sax snob is like being a kicker on a basketball court.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +289

      LOL

    • @cfraz116
      @cfraz116 3 года назад +25

      💀💀💀

    • @cracksologic81
      @cracksologic81 3 года назад +3

      Indeed

    • @theblackbasketball
      @theblackbasketball 3 года назад +39

      It’s like being a quarterback on a soccer field

    • @thechickenfriedredneck910
      @thechickenfriedredneck910 3 года назад +37

      Sadly There aren't very many Claasical bands with sax. Jazz is kinda our thing. Seriously why would they want Clairenets over saxes?

  • @sophiak.2973
    @sophiak.2973 3 года назад +6

    As someone who is going into their 3rd year of jazz, I can say that this was super painful to watch. But at the same time, it was absolutely hilarious. Thank you.

  • @aidancessna1548
    @aidancessna1548 3 года назад +6

    "As long as you have the sheet music written down for me"
    *closes eyes everytime he plays*

  • @ohnyo64
    @ohnyo64 3 года назад +628

    the eyebrows doe

  • @caitlunsford2440
    @caitlunsford2440 3 года назад +395

    my mans “swinging” got me DEAD 😭😭💀💀💀

  • @8675309342
    @8675309342 2 года назад +1

    Hello this is Jesse Shelton's best friend since elementary school here. I just wanted to apologize for his humor... our jokes, acting, and video making prowess have not improved since middle school. And I love this video deeply because of it! Can't believe I stumbled on this jem. Thanks saxlogic giving me a good laugh, and thanks RUclips algorithm for showing me my friend in the thumbnail of a video I didn't know existed.

  • @SgtByrd93
    @SgtByrd93 3 года назад +14

    5:07 is the point where my ribs were in agony

  • @joshduebber1071
    @joshduebber1071 3 года назад +223

    I’ve gotten so used to hearing you play jazz lately I forgot how crazy good of a classical player you are

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +36

      You are a good man

    • @kyle_nguyener
      @kyle_nguyener 3 года назад +3

      Ah yes, I’ll be known as Joshes first subscriber

  • @Blockpit
    @Blockpit 3 года назад +855

    Dude in Black's just playing looney tunes songs

    • @lzasyr
      @lzasyr 3 года назад +45

      @David Gray no the dude in black

    • @gunnerlowe828
      @gunnerlowe828 3 года назад +1

      @@lzasyr oh sorry

    • @ohimfinnadie
      @ohimfinnadie 3 года назад

      @David Gray who tf is that

    • @hoodlum6776
      @hoodlum6776 3 года назад +3

      @@ohimfinnadie the dude in the black

    • @marvinsahuleka7793
      @marvinsahuleka7793 3 года назад

      @@hoodlum6776 yeah but like...who is that?

  • @Zer0TheProdigy
    @Zer0TheProdigy 3 года назад +3

    2:45 His face every single time he touches lips to the sax is GOLD!

  • @tgdubplayz2578
    @tgdubplayz2578 3 года назад +5

    The disgusted looks that Saxologic gives when Jesse plays anything and the sighs after a crisp release have me on the floor laughing 😂

  • @ZackGrooves
    @ZackGrooves 3 года назад +2017

    Nobody:
    College Freshman minoring in Jazz: 4:07

    • @BariSaxGod25
      @BariSaxGod25 3 года назад +39

      That’s some real Rudy Wiedoeft shit

    • @kmack764
      @kmack764 3 года назад +32

      I'm guilty of this 😂

    • @josevalenzuela3477
      @josevalenzuela3477 3 года назад +39

      Ngl even though I know he plays jazz irl, that part made me cringe so hard 😖

    • @Sully365
      @Sully365 3 года назад +9

      CAN CONFIRM

    • @LowReedExpert1
      @LowReedExpert1 3 года назад +2

      @@BariSaxGod25 right? Great in context, but so outdated lol

  • @LowReedExpert1
    @LowReedExpert1 3 года назад +117

    The classical blues sounds like when you're messing around during a blues trying to get your band mates to laugh

  • @mellowords
    @mellowords 3 года назад +2

    Genius concept and execution, 11/10
    The classical guy even has the conductor hair. Perfection

  • @MissIceMateria
    @MissIceMateria 2 года назад +2

    Can we talk about that "Classical Player"s tone though????? So CLEAN!

  • @tuxsax
    @tuxsax 3 года назад +567

    Must say that jokes apart, the “classical” player has a great sound! It sounds like a bassoon at times...

    • @DrinkWater713
      @DrinkWater713 3 года назад +8

      Good ear. I was wondering of what it reminded me...

    • @nnnyel
      @nnnyel 3 года назад +16

      Yes! But clarinet was the first thing that popped on my head

    • @saxophonerman1239
      @saxophonerman1239 3 года назад +9

      English horn was the fist thing that popped up form me

    • @chico305SIGMA
      @chico305SIGMA 3 года назад +8

      The classical version sounds like a mixture of clarinet, bassoon and oboe.

    • @hannahregier3390
      @hannahregier3390 3 года назад +1

      As a bassoon player and someone who absolutely loves sax, I will have to agree with you on this one cheif

  • @PacmanRocks100
    @PacmanRocks100 3 года назад +169

    In a completely unbiased opinion, lick 1 and 3 with a classical embouchure sounded actually quite nice. Sounded pretty close to how the early swing players sounded on ballads. Prob because they came from clarinet first and had darker, large chamber mpcs with large bore saxes, giving a dark, velvety tone. Maybe a case for teaching multiple, flexible embouchures?

    • @JazzGuitarNoob
      @JazzGuitarNoob 3 года назад +14

      Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. He'd fit right in with Glenn Miller's orchestra. It sounds awesome to me.

    • @joseramirez2310
      @joseramirez2310 3 года назад +1

      Jazz Guitar Noob Can confirm. My friend plays 2nd alto in the GMO. They are all white too.

    • @rashakor
      @rashakor 3 года назад +6

      Classical/jazz; clarinet/sax. We would all greatly benefit of each other’s teaching as they are so many technical overlaps and interesting coloring between these disciplines. I found jazz/purist no less unsufferable than classical/clarinet snobs

    • @vicbulbon8821
      @vicbulbon8821 3 года назад +5

      so I am not the only one having that thought. Guys like Ben Webster, Benny carter, and Johnny Hodges had absolutely beautiful round tones. As a classic swing person those tones are not foreign for me at all. Even Rudy Weidoeft with that heavenly tone of his. Swings pretty hard too. I guess many modern saxophonist's sound concept came from the Charlie Parker and Cannonball Adderley schools so it has to be bright.

  • @peterday1834
    @peterday1834 3 года назад +1

    I just purchased your book of exercises in all 12 keys and after only a couple pf days with it, I can already see some change! I LOVE IT! Thank you so much!!

  • @daekim9213
    @daekim9213 3 года назад +16

    *Jazz:* The cool kid in band
    *Classical:* The arrogant nerd in band

  • @jordanmacias5590
    @jordanmacias5590 3 года назад +322

    As someone who has only studied classical, I've always felt my jazz playing could be better. I have too many classical tendencies when playing jazz. Our lead alto this year primarily plays jazz but studies classical on the side, so I'm thankful to have him as lead this year

    • @cheath1017
      @cheath1017 3 года назад +1

      What’s his name?

    • @samc5934
      @samc5934 3 года назад +45

      SlothMaster101 lmao you’re the type of person this whole thing makin fun of bruv

    • @jordanmacias5590
      @jordanmacias5590 3 года назад +1

      @@samc5934 lol, I know. Hence why I commented about it and stated that I'm glad we have a jazz saxophonist as lead this year instead of me.

    • @samc5934
      @samc5934 3 года назад +11

      Jordan Macias oh no I was responding to the guy who said jazz was just watered down classical. Both are incredible styles that take lots of understanding of an instrument and it’s tones. I think having a lead who studies both is super productive, my oboe lead plays literally everything in every style and gives us great insight. Very different from saxophone but I recognize the value

    • @antniomanso
      @antniomanso 3 года назад

      i can feel you bro, i’m a classical studying trombone, and when i go improvising in jazz i almost everytime end up sounding like it’s from a symphony or from arban studies, sometimes i unconsciously end up playing excerpts, like, anything in E minor and you will surely have a bit from tchaikovsky 5, two of my friends (flute and double bass) even joined the meme and we ended up playing a whole jam session spamming classical excerpts, the vibe was amazing, stretching up standards that in our hands would normally last 8 minutes to 15 or 20, just so we could play like half of our orchester probespiels, the pianists and drummer were amazing so they were like “fuck this now we’re not playing only jazz anymore we’re playing classical too” and So What started in D minor and ended up in C# Minor (cuz the trumpet solo in the beginning of Mahler 5). We even ended up playing full fugues, like Mahler’s Symphony No. 1 3rd movement (minor scale frere jacques), as well as medieval tunes.
      i still want to become a classical trombone, like, with my fixed seat at the berliner philharmoniker or something like that, and won’t plan to invest a lot of time in jazz, but definitely won’t abandon it at all, as it’s there where you have a little bit more creative freedom and can have a kind of fun equivalent to playing a tchaikovsky symphony or something, but while being even more chill

  • @bglahe3891
    @bglahe3891 3 года назад +101

    I was genuinely confused for a second because I was expecting him to be the jazz saxophonist

  • @thomascarter8833
    @thomascarter8833 3 года назад +7

    2:20 that gliss was crazy

  • @jennifergrubb3422
    @jennifergrubb3422 2 года назад +2

    This is HILARIOUS! I have been a classical flutist for 18 years. I just bought a sax and started to learn jazz. I get so frustrated because I just want to see a piece of sheet music hahaha

  • @Saxopwned23
    @Saxopwned23 3 года назад +90

    tonguing every beat playing swing really takes me back to when I learned I literally didn't know anything about jazz freshman year of college LOL

    • @Turt3752
      @Turt3752 3 года назад +9

      SaxopwnedTV as a trombonist, hearing that some woodwind players flat-out don’t tongue every note was my eye-opener lol

    • @DHawkBeats
      @DHawkBeats 2 года назад

      Wait can you explain I also don’t know anything abt jazz or wind instruments

  • @soggy6146
    @soggy6146 3 года назад +120

    When asked for sheet music, he definitely just pulled out the Charlie Parker omnibook

  • @jaredmatthewsmith7121
    @jaredmatthewsmith7121 3 года назад +19

    Brotha’s got a nice classical tone
    That cat on the cannonball has got a killer jazz tone
    2 different schools of thought side by side-awesome contrast

  • @JAVO286
    @JAVO286 3 года назад

    Finally a video that compares the sound of classical sax and jazz sax, love It!!

  • @lucasharvey4389
    @lucasharvey4389 3 года назад +15

    not saying that this guy isn’t an absolute beast at jazz, but i think his classical sound is NEXT LEVEL

  • @randomchannel-px6ho
    @randomchannel-px6ho 3 года назад +1769

    The Modern Day:
    Classical Musicians: Who cares about Jazz they're not even musicians they just play the wrong notes
    The 1830s:
    Chopin: Hey guys here's an etude I wrote emphasizing the wrong notes. Hey Liszt, why don't you try it?

    • @vegas6824
      @vegas6824 3 года назад +114

      I'm a classical musician and I absolutely love jazz, I'd rather you say classical elitist or something

    • @mathieutdf5446
      @mathieutdf5446 3 года назад +13

      this étude is wayyy more than just wrong note

    • @TomasMikaX
      @TomasMikaX 3 года назад +5

      Which etude is that?

    • @gigatesla
      @gigatesla 3 года назад +5

      Stockhausen: Hold my piano

    • @js1.987
      @js1.987 3 года назад +2

      @Tomáš Mika it’s etude op. 25 no 5 here’s a link ruclips.net/video/F8MIH47br5w/видео.html

  • @dejab.7284
    @dejab.7284 3 года назад

    Amazing! This was so refreshing to watch, as a former sax player. Make me fall back in love with it.

  • @dgamer5075
    @dgamer5075 3 года назад +2

    That squared swinging the classical snob did sounds just like my high school wind ensemble trying to swing. It's not just treating eighths as eighth triplets all staccato, it's about making the first eighth stronger.

  • @furtherdefinitions1
    @furtherdefinitions1 3 года назад +83

    Actually, in imitating the "jazz" player's music, his tone is the way early jazz players sounded. BTW, most classical players, like my father, started out in a conservatory, and before you even get down on your instrument you have to learn solfeggio identifying the notes and pitches by ear. My father switched to big band later and made the transition easily and actually was able to transcribe big band charts to paper by just listening to the recordings.

  • @RileySFPcDestiny
    @RileySFPcDestiny 3 года назад +335

    I won’t lie the classical player ego is such a real thing, I hate it 😂
    jazz gang

    • @jacobbass6437
      @jacobbass6437 3 года назад +23

      Trust me. Not all of us are like this.

    • @user-rd8xy6zv5z
      @user-rd8xy6zv5z 3 года назад +3

      @@jacobbass6437 we know

    • @valebliz
      @valebliz 3 года назад +3

      @@jacobbass6437 true, but there's a few of you like this even in the comments

    • @jacobbass6437
      @jacobbass6437 3 года назад +13

      @@valebliz. Ummmmm at pretty much every university, it’s the jazz department that’s highly competitive and sometimes abusive.

    • @doormatcat
      @doormatcat 3 года назад +3

      I have been playing for over 6 years now but I never got introduced to jazz before like a year ago so I'm saving up for a jazz mouthpiece.

  • @lcope2004
    @lcope2004 3 года назад +2

    A true musician can appreciate both

  • @bomedy1075
    @bomedy1075 3 года назад +9

    5:05 you sure that's still classical?! LMAO

    • @sigmawaveproductions
      @sigmawaveproductions 3 месяца назад

      Remember when your speakers would make that sound before you got a text or phone call? 😂

  • @BourdeoixEterno
    @BourdeoixEterno 3 года назад +66

    Bruh even when Saxologic tries to play bad it still sounds pretty good

  • @stockicide
    @stockicide 3 года назад +5

    I thought this was gonna be a dunk on classical saxophone players, but this was surprisingly pleasant to listen to.

  • @hotfishdev
    @hotfishdev 3 года назад

    This is one of the most enjoyable videos I’ve seen in a while. I kinda want to hear a legit duet with both the jazz sax and the classical sax.

  • @geoffreylaurentz6145
    @geoffreylaurentz6145 2 года назад +2

    I'm considering getting into saxophone. Both you guys sound terrific.

  • @carterpochynok4874
    @carterpochynok4874 3 года назад +59

    Omg this is like jazz drummers talking to literally any other kind of drummer lol

  • @nolano8279
    @nolano8279 3 года назад +64

    legend says he likes every single comment
    edit: it took 27 seconds for him to like

  • @daylinturcios5683
    @daylinturcios5683 3 года назад +1

    He’s made so many of these videos but I can never get tired of them 😅

  • @bounderby99
    @bounderby99 2 года назад

    Can’t believe this masterpiece is already almost a year old! I love this video!

  • @misosoup8825
    @misosoup8825 3 года назад +13

    I don't even play saxophone, found this channel by mistake, was laughing all the way through

  • @MankDemes551
    @MankDemes551 3 года назад +27

    5:30 The Glazunov lick

  • @laszlokovacs5885
    @laszlokovacs5885 3 года назад +1

    The black suit guy is really good, clean and bright tone. And good sense of humor.

  • @dylanq1871
    @dylanq1871 3 года назад +1

    You are just as good as acting as memeing on the sax. You are a true legend.

  • @subversiveasset
    @subversiveasset 3 года назад +80

    i'm a garbage musician and i'm definitely telling on myself hardcore by commenting this, but i honestly and unironically preferred the classical sound for the lick trials.

  • @channingshows6634
    @channingshows6634 3 года назад +91

    When you started playing Ibert that shit was so funny

  • @AlbertonJiggletip
    @AlbertonJiggletip 4 месяца назад

    I think they both sound great. Its not really the sax alone, its what's being played by the pianist and the swing of the percussionist that makes it bluesy.

  • @sonsauvage
    @sonsauvage 3 года назад +1

    Dude this is one of the funniest things I've seen all year

  • @colinlinvill1310
    @colinlinvill1310 3 года назад +23

    You could totally make a real song with dueling sax solos, one of which plays more classical and the other doing complex jazz bits

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +11

      I was thinking about doing a Canon in D for classical alto and jazz alto

  • @skrillex5939
    @skrillex5939 3 года назад +46

    Is this what the saxs talked about all day, I’m a French horn player btw

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +4

      Ayeee

    • @gxtmfa
      @gxtmfa 3 года назад

      As some who doesn’t play sax, this does take me back to conversations I overheard daily in high school

    • @omamajohnpaul4215
      @omamajohnpaul4215 3 года назад +2

      The French horn is the best. Hope you're proud of it👍

    • @skrillex5939
      @skrillex5939 3 года назад +2

      @@omamajohnpaul4215 I am, I get all the ladies with my horn

  • @Radjammin
    @Radjammin 3 года назад +3

    Legit Sax is getting good for a job that doesn’t exist.

  • @wofi784
    @wofi784 3 года назад +1

    Both of these sound amazing

  • @timothychilds4975
    @timothychilds4975 3 года назад +18

    All jokes aside, I actually know people who think about jazz as an inferior art form to classical music. Making the same claims in the video. I really hope they see this because this is spot on lmao.

    • @timothychilds4975
      @timothychilds4975 3 года назад +1

      @Royal S Art is subjective. Some things may not be your aesthetic like jazz music however i believe they are all equally artistic depending on the listener.

    • @rainbowdash9388
      @rainbowdash9388 3 года назад +3

      Royal S music should draw out emotion. If you’re required to be professional at all times while listening, then all the work of the composer is wasted. There is nothing inherently superior about professionalism in music.
      Classical music excels at telling stories and conveying emotions with its composition, and is not better than any other music because of its “fanciness.”

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +7

      I made this video specifically for people like you. It’s very apparent that you have been to a very limited amount of jazz events. Have you been to Jazz at Lincoln Center? It contradicts everything you’re saying. And it’s also apparent you have never sat in a rehearsal of virtuosic jazz players or played in a masterclass with one. I encourage you to broaden your perspective. In the meantime you have inspired new lines for my next iteration of this video!

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +4

      Ahh well I do see where you’re coming from. But I do think when a jazz group of players play together for many years, the artistic element is a lot more nuanced than we would expect. Great groups make it sound easy but the amount of sensitivity is crazy and the different skills required is also formidable. I don’t think it’s worth putting one or the other down. Someone who spends 10,000 hours in either one are gonna achieve insane things in different areas

  • @schniT_T
    @schniT_T 3 года назад +57

    I'm happy to say that all the classical snobs I know are cut out of my life. My first piano teacher...oof. She once tried to explain to me why classical is superior: "well think of it this way: jazz, rock, all of that is like a village dialect. Classical is the language Pushkin spoke."
    Dialects are just as fascinating if not more fascinating, but that's beside the point because I think that her analogy is wrong on a much more fundamental level.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +21

      Ugh that’s painful. What is up with that? Why are people so close minded? Can’t stand it.

    • @chico305SIGMA
      @chico305SIGMA 3 года назад +8

      Let's put it this way classical is for the upper class aka the important people and jazz is for the working Man The working poor the average Joe. Lol I'm just messing with you. I love BOTH!!! People who are real music nerds love all types of music.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  3 года назад +4

      George Washington Oh man I gotta use that one in the next part

    • @thetickedoffpianoplayer4193
      @thetickedoffpianoplayer4193 2 года назад

      I had teachers like that when I was in college. Now I would probably tell them to bite me.

  • @yogxoth1959
    @yogxoth1959 3 года назад

    Loved the bloopers at the end!

  • @SlayPlenty
    @SlayPlenty 3 года назад

    bloopers are gold, thanks for that

  • @Ardjano234
    @Ardjano234 3 года назад +12

    "wow, stellar."
    "It really was!"

  • @chiangui24
    @chiangui24 3 года назад +36

    I love jazz and I think the classical touch really adds a wonderful element to the saxophone. It feels closer to the older big band solos like with Glenn Miller.

    • @bill3837
      @bill3837 3 года назад +1

      im a jazz musician and i stretch out from there. i got to say i li sten to classical music to keep my sound tighter

  • @marcovalentini5741
    @marcovalentini5741 3 года назад +1

    I expect the very different tone, but what amazes me is the completely different time feel and rhythmic attack even in such short passages.

  • @FlorianEagox
    @FlorianEagox 3 года назад

    What a fun way to demonstrate the differences!

  • @musiew683
    @musiew683 3 года назад +24

    Patrick Mahomes’s football career was going so well, why did he quit to become a full-time saxophonist?

  • @seppyq3672
    @seppyq3672 3 года назад +15

    That moment when you know nothing about this instrument and can't tell which is the "jazz musician "

  • @raybercse1
    @raybercse1 3 года назад +4

    These dudes are cool, daddy-O. They play well off each other.

  • @Baribrotzer
    @Baribrotzer 3 года назад

    God, what a sound - half Twenties cornball novelty, half Frenchman with his head in a bucket. And those expressions! Like you're the coolest thing on earth, and have no idea that jazz players haven't sounded like that for almost a hundred years. That must have needed a lot of takes, to get one where nobody cracked up.

  • @betterthanisound
    @betterthanisound 3 года назад +4

    Probably one of the best examples demonstrating the differences between classical and Jazz sax I’ve seen. OK done with humour and a little mocking of classical players in this example (though I think that helps demonstrate the point even more), so clever. Well done. Can’t wait for the next instalment, vice versa....

  • @bluscorpion
    @bluscorpion 3 года назад +3

    Damm, that's a damm good horn! The sound is phenomenal, so bright and crisp! I love the rawer sound of the sax on the right too. I think the energy of the player makes a huge difference too!

  • @wayden11
    @wayden11 3 года назад

    Simply brilliant 😆😆. Facial expressions on POINT 🤣

  • @saxofof
    @saxofof 2 года назад

    Loving that series !!!!