The Role of Religion In The United Kingdom | Cambridge Union
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This Panel event took place at the Cambridge Union Society on Tuesday 14th May at 6pm in the Keynes Library.
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PANEL EVENT: THE ROLE OF RELIGION IN THE UK
This Panel event was hosted by Jessica Spearman, featuring a number of diverse perspectives from 5 additional panelists:
- DR. DESMOND BIDDULPH
- GAVRIEL SACKS
- SANJANA TRIVEDI
- OPINDERJIT TAKHAR
- TOBY FRANCE
Sadly DR. IMAN DAWOOD (Postdoctoral Research & Outreach Associate at the centre for Islamic Studies) could not be present for this Panel event and we apologise that this may appear to impact the diversity and representation of Islam within the discussions of this Panel Event.
Let us know how these perspectives compare with your own understandings & experiences in the comments; these panel events are inclusive & encourage open discussions about topical issues & concepts that are easily overlooked in our busy modern lives.
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Isn’t it ironic that Islam is conspicuous by its absence from discussion despite it being the fastest growing and second largest religion in the world?
@dirkhan74
You have to stop equating population growth in Muslim-majority countries and the growth of Islam. A lot of Egyptians, Pakistanis, black Africans, Indonesians, etc. are not Muslims. Apostasy in the so-called Islamic world is a trivial thing now. Apostasy is an all-or-nothing thing in Islam. If you don't believe that the Qur'an is the "word of god", you're not a Muslim. Hundreds of millions in the so-called Islamic world don't believe this. It's only going to get worse, from the point of view of Islamic orthodoxy.
When it comes to asking too many questions, or trying to use your reason in order to come to a conclusion about Islam, the Muslims are generally discouraged.
@@dirkhan74 The original purpose of the religion was to unite warring tribes. That was accomplished. Today we need diversity in religion with people being allowed to choose where they are comfortable and what they are comfortable with. No one wants to have something forced on them whether it is communism; eliminative materialism; trans humanism or, in addition, any form of religion or religious practice they do not want and are not interested in. Also separation of church and state is important. A secular state that deals fairly with all religions is the ideal.
"They just dont assimilate" some racist somewhere
Fastest breeding not growing.
Have you seen how full the Cambridge Central mosque is EVERY Friday around noon - lunch time??? Yet not one Muslim panellist? You cannot have a serious discussion on religion in the UK without the Muslims - however, much you’d like to deny it.
That's because it isn't a religion; it's a death cult based on lies, fear and violence. It has no right being classed as a 'religion' amongst these other faiths. Always remember: without lies, islam dies.
Everyone likes to have muslims. But muslims don't like to be critical about their religion and if they are critical they face death threats, ostracised or classified as heretic .
the problem is that the Sunni consider the Shiite is infidel and doesn't accept to represent him .. the Shiite is the same ,, they cant host more than one person...
@@syrianugaritic8902 Wrong they would accept that. They the basics of Islam.
Like Christianity, which denomination is the representer?
No representation of Islam in the panel is deliberate or otherwise!
There is no striking element just because of the absence of the most-growing religion on the planet.
Cambridge needs to work on its policy for panels.
Thank you for reading.
Fastest breeding.....
This is an intellectual debate, what Islam has to do with it?
That's because it isn't a religion; it's a death cult based on lies, fear and violence. It has no right being classed as a 'religion' amongst these other faiths. Always remember: without lies, islam dies.
@@martin96991 I think you should read Islam is fastest growing religion by conversion rate also
@@abdurrahmankhan1145 cancer spread rapidly, so what? Remove apostasy laws and it will be the fastest declining.
Most growing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why is Islam not here???
How come you guys did not invite a Muslim speaker? you know considering its the fastest growing religion was this deliberate ?
Where is the muslim person
Nowhere because islam isn't a religion; it's a death cult based on lies, fear and violence. It has no right being classed as a 'religion' amongst these other faiths. Always remember: without lies, islam dies.
@@osmansaid4601 in Germany knife 🗡 attacks.
@martin96991 what about hundred thousand people jews killed palestine last ten months and your Nazi Germany gave them weapons
@@martin96991No I think was New Zealand Christchurch attack at the Mosque
I don't see the person who should represent Muslims.
Yep cuz there is no place for nazi
well they also don't have Jedis there.
@@20shourya lol
Because it about religions not cults.
No Muslim presence shows the tolerance of the panel 😂
Dont talk about tolerance ...you people kill behade for the muhammad cartoon or for blashphamy
As a Christian I thought the Christian represented Christianity well. I agree with him that its a wonderful thing to be a Christian and i could wish that everyone could have what we have.
everyone does, but you don't see it if they don't wear the label of ''christian''. It's how you behave that matters not the label you pin to yourself. Christ wasn't christian was he?
Considering the UK is increasingly atheist or agnostic, there should be representation for the majority too.
Out of the 5 panellists, 3 talked about religions originating from India!
"This is indeed India! the land of dreams and romance, of fabulous wealth and fabulous poverty, of splendor and rags,…….the country of a hundred nations and a hundred tongues, of a thousand religions and two million gods, cradle of the human race, birthplace of human speech, mother of history, grandmother of legend, great-grandmother of tradition, whose yesterdays bear date with the moldering antiquities of the rest of the nations”
-- Mark Twain
l am an atheistic Hindu and a follower of Advaita Vedanta.
@@celestialteapot309 what do you think of Jesus as a living presence ? I’m curious to talk to people from all points of view and beliefs.
@@kirsty_iso l suspect that influential spiritual leaders from the past would be diagnosed with a mental illness were they alive today.
@@kirsty_iso Jesus college is pretty good, you should apply!
@@kirsty_iso My family is Christian, but I identify as a Yogi. Jesus Christ as a living presence does not make much sense to me. I am not particularly stimulated by Jesus' teachings. It is often unclear what he thinks. I don't see his teachings as a basis for a dynamic, deep spirituality.
@@kirsty_iso Jesus had a rather short presence in this world's history.
Why should we imagine that religion can only be what it has been? (Matt, Unitarian minister)
Poignant
I think this discussion needs a Muslim and an atheist to represent the population adequately. Most people in the UK these days don´t belong to any of the major religions, many are agnostic, many are in effect deists (I.e some philosophical belief in God) and many are out and out atheists. There are almost as many neopagans as there are Jews I believe too.
Myself, as an atheist, I think keeping religious traditions alive is fine, as is keeping religious instiutions alive for a sense of community etc (though often we have other rituals that fullfil the same purposes these days). The problem comes when you teach that "faith" is a reasonable way to think about the world and a reasonable way to get to the truth, it isn´t. That´s entirely why we had to invent the scientific method.
The question is ostensibly about the role of religion is the UK. Yet the panel is made up of a buddhist, a jew, a hindu, a sikh and a christian. All of whom feel that to be an important part of their identity and the way they interact with the world and with this question.
So, it seems like the role of religion in the UK is not really up for question at all, and that the answer is presupposed by the format: everyone on the panel is someone who especially feels like religion ought to have a special place in society!
If people identify with different religions, isn't that a fundamental failure of religion? Because each religion (except Jewish/Zionist) says we are one. Maybe a spiritual renaissance is necessary? Something the Buddhist touches on, go to the heart of religion beyond the dogma, rites and rituals. Just the pure heart which is also our heart. Open the heart in an all encompassing way. Do onto others....
Christ or Cosmic consciousness is expressed and experienced in other religions under different names.
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It’s clear most are wondering why there is no Muslim representation here? Very odd
so this is literally the Story book room :P
No
Why no one representante of muslim?
I don't know why but i always find Hindu panelists in such debates quite superficial devoid of the vast ocean of knowledge which Hinduism teachs. Instead of inviting a teenage girl organisers should have invited someone senior.
Um, she was Um clueless.
No Islam…..
that might be the empty chair hahahahha
@@20shourya that may be truer than you suspect. Great spot …my own take is I hope the panel organisers are smart enough to recognise that many religious perspectives are not present … I’m an optimist 😊
@@peterweston1356 so what’s your point exactly
@@urekmazino2485 well, I think by leaving an empty seat the panel may be suggesting that they could never constitute a a group that reflects all religions or variations. An acknowledgement that they are striving to offer a comprehensive set of viewpoints but telegraphing that this would be an impossible task. The viewer can then decide, after the introductions if spending time listening to a subset of perspectives is a good use of their time.
@@peterweston1356 What made you come to this conclusion?
Is science on our side?
@@VikramLal-ny6cy Religion and science should be compatible going forward. Science tells us how and why things happen in the natural world and how to harness it. Religion should continue to be an institution that promotes community and morality.
Religions as well as individuals need to have the humility to admit what they cannot know for sure, and adapt to the progress of science.
@@herbiewalkermusic Except for trans humanism or anything weird.
@@ALavin-en1kr😂
Wow. Isn't this a conference of the I S L A M O P H O B E S?!
Thanks God.
What an enlightening and respectful conversation. Thank you!
The definition of religion is: That to which we are bound. Christians had better support Christianity and other religions also support their religion, or something may move in to take its place such as eliminative materialism or a Muslim intolerant perspective; or even trans humanism.
Even Atheists are referring to themselves as cultural Christians as they see the danger of a void. They do not like what could take over, which would not be good for anyone who means well or who want their humanity not to be interfered with.
Religion protected against the dark occult before the age of reason and will still be a bulwark snd should be supported as it supports the human, and hence humanity.
What do you make of the experience of Jesus as a living presence
@@kirsty_iso It is all about Consciousness (the hard problem for todays philosophers). Christ Consciousness; or consciousness that is not just in the body but is in the entire universe. Cosmic consciousness. Experiencing the universe as one’s body. That is Christ Consciousness; experiencing God as the entire universe.
@@ALavin-en1kr I am an atheist and I am not a cultural Christian at all. I have never even been a Christian in my life. I was raised in another religion. I find your definition of religion to be question-begging.
@@Nexus-jg7ev Clarify. Not sure what you mean.
@@Nexus-jg7ev If some atheists are defining themselves as cultural Christians; there is no need for you to take umbrage, I did not say you were or that you should declare yourself to be other than what you are, which is an atheist. I just mentioned a trend that was mentioned in a discussion that atheists participated in; that is all.