Programming is a mindset, so age does not matter to become a good programmer. If all you want is to get a job and be adequate any age is ok. Most programmers are only adequate, but that is the industry norm same as any industry and is good enough for Microsoft et al. BTW I am 63 and started my first proper software engineer job at 53, after going to University to get a degree in Computer Engineering. But started learning at 43.
That is amazing. I wish I would have interviewed you for this video lol I'd like to hear more about your story if you don't mind. Maybe in a Discord DM? Or maybe even do an interview video if you'd like to share your story with everyone.
@@codingismyreligion Back then, I got a book called HTML for dummies and made websites about video games or other interests. I remember making everything with frames and I hadn’t even heard about css yet. Everything was styled with html tags. I then started to try and learn programming and didn’t understand it. I immediately quit thinking I couldn’t do it or didn’t want to try anymore. I didn’t realize the potential back then
Got into the field when I was 36. It took me 4 years of consistent work, building a portfolio and doing freelance projects. Currently working for big tech companies at 38. I know now it is more difficult than then. My advice: set your mindset up. You should not set a timeframe. Too many people think " I need to become X in 2-3 years". Have a mindset: "no matter what it takes and how long - I will get there"
@@WebDevJapan Yup. I remember this really ridiculous propaganda: "You can become a dev in a few months! I know a guy..." They didn't mention that "that guy" was in his early 20s, well-connected, and was hired as an intern with tax benefits for employers from the government IT program. Even back then during prosperity most self-taught dev's needed 2-3 years. Now It's probably 3-5 years minimum. And mandatory 2 years of freelancing/serious projects. Yet - I believe it's possible.
absolutely not too late, better late than to eat your own heart for the rest of your life. During my university studies I met plenty of 30 and 40+ who just started studying computer science, most of them not having a regular jobs throughout their lives and were slaving through to reach where they are now; I cherish and admire those people for making their decision
understanding that everyone has their own timing and life path makes it so much easier to improve. You get used to listening to success stories of kids starting at damn near toddler ages to learn programming, that you forget those are exceptions not the rules. It makes such a difference when you start living off of that, not only for programming but everything.
@@WebDevJapan 39 and have always wanted to learn to code to get a better paying job to give my children a better life. School bus driver now and I have the time to learn. Just discovered your channel and its what I have been looking for all this time. Thank you
man what a nice video, all you see in social media now a days is don't do this, don't do that or your too old to do it, am 31 and i decide i want to learn tech and keep learning
Thank you. Yeah, there are also people saying you can do it in 3-6 months...which is not realistic. It's hard, it might take 2-3 years, but it will always be worth it in every case if the person just keeps at it!
The biggest thing people need to remember is, comparison is the killer of joy. If you compare yourself to others, you will never be satisfied, there will always be someone younger or smarter or richer or whatever, you should not worry about what others are doing with their life or when they achieved goals, you should only ever compare yourself to yourself. Are you further ahead then who you were yesterday? If yes, then you are already better than you were. I am in a similiar situation, I was working as a qualified chef until I had a work place injury, had surgery on my spine twice, had to get strong again, but i could never return to being a chef, i could no longer stand for long periods of time, or be in a role that active, so it forced me to change careers, so i went back to university to study game design. 3 and a half years later, i am in my final semester of uni and about to enter a new industry at 35 years old. Change can happen if you want it to change badly enough, or in my case, having no choice.
Thanks for sharing your story! I love how you turned a challenging situation into an opportunity for growth. Game design sounds fun if that's something you enjoy doing.
im 32 now... and i remember i started college at 24. i thought i was "too old" haha because i saw videos about dudes learning before 20 to start programming and even selling software by themselves.... this is probably 0.001% of population. then i realized even 40yo+ entered the career too. and NO ONE cares about your age at the end of the day. at least in my country its highly uneducated to ask for the age of a person... if he/she wants to say it, its fine. but you dont go around asking people's age for no reason. anyway... you are right about that its NOT easy, i would say it takes at least 2-3 years of study and hard work to have a solid base and start working in the industry in a full time job. probably some people can do it in 1 year or 2 years..... but we must be realistic too . i hate when i see videos talking about "how to become a programmer in 6 months" or something like that.... because its NOT real.
Yeah I've seen a couple of videos where people said they got a job in 3 months after starting to study. It's very depressing when you're a year into your own studies and feel like you're at least another year away from being employable. Then I go and watch a few of their other videos and see they actually studied computer science at university but dropped out and worked a random job for a few years. Then when they restarted with self study they counted that as starting at zero. Or like one guy who said he did it in 6 months but he was a fresh grad with a math degree. I know it's not programming but a math degree will give you the analytical skills you need to succeed in programming. Then after watching like ten of his videos he slips up in one video and said he spent a weekend learning html and css during university to build a simple web page. But a weekend of study for a math major could be like 10+ hours of focused study. He probably got more done in that weekend than someone casually learning could do in a whole month, maybe more. So, the summary is...a lot of those people are lying and it's detrimental to people trying to get started.
That is awesome!! I'm not sure if I'll ever make it to big tech. I've actually been going deep into e-commerce development freelancing lately and thinking about just working for myself. I did buy the cracking the coding interview book before I found my first job and was thinking big tech would be my goal after getting a little bit of industry experience. But...well, goals change.
@@WebDevJapan Ironically enough, that's the path I am on as well! Working for yourself is the gold standard and it's extremely motivational to see. Go all in man and I believe the rewards will be well worth the effort! Excited to follow along--cheers to your goals 🍻
man glad to know you did it you look 30 don't worry about it i am 23 and thinking i am late but you inspired me also how you study how to handle distractions and also i procrastinate a lot any tips
If you're getting started now imagine where you'll be when your my age! I'm actually planning out a video about this but one way I fight against procrastination is having accountability. If you have someone, or a small group of 3-4 people, that you meet with on the same day every week (just online meeting is fine), and you hold each other accountable. It could be like a mastermind group or just an accountability partner, or even paying for a tutor. I paid a programming tutor in Africa $10/hr to meet with me once a week for an hour, go through some coding challenges and curriculum and assign me homework. Whether it's a paid tutor or you accountability partner or a weekly meeting with a mastermind group, you won't want to face them if you played video games and watched anime all week instead of working on your goals. How can you face them? It does add some stress until you get used to just working on your goals and not wasting time. Handling distractions is simple, keep my phone downstairs all day while I'm working in my office upstairs. Don't have it in the same room. Don't have any notifications for any social media enabled on my computer. I actually went for over a year without having any social media logged in on my computer but I'm more in control of myself now so I do have facebook and instagram logged in, but still no notifications, never notifications. And that phone better be on silent even when it's in the other room. You have to get into focus mode and not any ways to distract you out of it. Also, I don't have a TV and don't have any gaming console. I do have Pokemon Go on my phone but that's only when I'm going out somewhere. Once every few months I do have a relapse and re-install a game from Steam (currently no games on my computer) or binge rewatch one of my favorite anime. Nobody is perfect. But I keep a streak going on my calendar. If I have a day where I get all the work done that I know I should do and don't partake in any of the BS that distracts me from it, I put a big X on that day and I try to get longer and longer streaks of perfect days.
I am turning 33 in next week. I was just having these thoughts that its too late for me to learn how to code and this video popped up in my feed. Its been two months I've started learning. I needed to hear something like this. I just want to say thank you for making and posting this video. ❤ We need more of these.
im 28 .i started last year with powershell , now i know how to do web dev front & back end & c# , thanks to chat gpt as well for expalnng everything like im 5
Should i switch to cyber security since in the future because of Ai, companies wont be hiring that much employees(maybe 70% needed) needed to finish the job and can be automated using AI? I heard Cyber Security is a safe option.
I think everything will be affected to some extent by AI. I would just choose what you like doing. If your skills are high enough you won't get automated out. But that is an interesting idea about Cybersecurity being more automation proof. I haven't heard anyone talking about that. I'll have to look into it.
lol yeah I have the worst filming set up I record the video with a $50 mic on an old android phone. The main video is recorded on an iphone. I import the two video tracks into Filmora video editor, make sure they are synced up, separate the audio and video I got on the android phone and delte the video so I have the good audio left over. Then mute the video I took on my iphone. It's the system I've been using for years and I just don't have time to figure out a different way to do it.
I checked the biggest jobdatabase in my country. Under 800 IT jobs in all segments. 15-20 % is fake job posts to collect your data. 15 % is not even IT jobs just mixed up wrong in IT category as fill the space really. 10-15 % off them is not even jobs at all, just mini sell ads for other stuff then work. So jobs for IT support, IT programmers, is so limit, that people are forced away. And the demands for entry level, trying to learn in there 30-40-50+ is almost impossible. You need 5-10 years backing that up, and do at least 2-3 people work at the same time. And CV that checkes all the marks else AI / HR will push you out like you are nothing at all. And even fulltime jobs is very hard to find in the IT segment. Intern / free whit no pay is displayed as the new normal.
@@WebDevJapan Denmark. I got a add picture from the CEO running it. That said "8 out off 10" is at work. Just meaning that, they are not even trying to find / create new jobposting openings. Just refill the existing ones. And not the ones that really bad need a job fast in the sector. Pretty wild really.
Yeah I do something 5-6 days a week. If I don't have time to go to the gym I'll just do push ups and stuff in my room or go outside during my lunch break and do sprinting for 5-10 minutes. Also just random streching and stuff for a minute or two throughout the day if I'm waiting for dependencies to install or I get stuck on a bug or something.
lol I code as a weak ass. Wish I can do proper. Company seems to think my skills good enough to replace a massive software system with all their data and yeah. I started coding pro and paid at 40. I consider myself beginner. But hey so far it works. But one thing with all the stuff the dude is talking about. Coding gives you more grey hair than kids. When poop hits fan, code monkey and 8 hours a day. It is hard to stay consistent more than 40mins an hour. But yeah the ad part meh. Keep coding though dude
I'm not making enough money at my entry level job to really care when shit hits the fan so I'm not getting any grey hairs. I can see how stressful it would be if I was scared of losing the job though.
@@WebDevJapanlmk if need any help or want to partner at all. I’m learning how to code after 4yrs of procrastinating and messing with python, then html and css. However I have been doing side projects and offering web dev for past 2yrs to pay my bills. Would love to join you. Also do you have a discord?
He's wrong, it's too late only because you have to compete now with current out of work developers, all time high graduate rates and with kids with 0 responsibilities. He did this when the demand was all time high, he got his job 4 years a go, roughly. US customs and control is hiring right now, really high on demand. Don't waste your time, its over.
Dude I'm 1 year into my first tech job. I got hired right in the worst of it, with no CS degree or anything. It's only over if you let yourself believe that. For people with the right mindset it's only just beginning.
Funny you say that yeah...I've probably watched every video he had online before he went to jail. I also watched 4 hours of his leaked Hustlers University on making money online and that led me to making my own shopify store and getting into dropshipping. I made a few thousand dollars from it. I don't watch his content now though because he always talked about breaking free from the Matrix but then ended up on house arrest and locked up in the Matrix.
Programming is a mindset, so age does not matter to become a good programmer. If all you want is to get a job and be adequate any age is ok. Most programmers are only adequate, but that is the industry norm same as any industry and is good enough for Microsoft et al. BTW I am 63 and started my first proper software engineer job at 53, after going to University to get a degree in Computer Engineering. But started learning at 43.
That is amazing. I wish I would have interviewed you for this video lol
I'd like to hear more about your story if you don't mind. Maybe in a Discord DM? Or maybe even do an interview video if you'd like to share your story with everyone.
@@WebDevJapan ya it will definitely motivate others 🎉
I started learning at 11 but then stopped and now here I am 30 years later trying to learn everything!
@@Kr0n3kLe What did you learn at 11?
@@codingismyreligion Back then, I got a book called HTML for dummies and made websites about video games or other interests. I remember making everything with frames and I hadn’t even heard about css yet. Everything was styled with html tags. I then started to try and learn programming and didn’t understand it. I immediately quit thinking I couldn’t do it or didn’t want to try anymore. I didn’t realize the potential back then
Started at 34, got job at 36
Almost the same as me!
Got into the field when I was 36. It took me 4 years of consistent work, building a portfolio and doing freelance projects. Currently working for big tech companies at 38.
I know now it is more difficult than then. My advice: set your mindset up. You should not set a timeframe. Too many people think " I need to become X in 2-3 years". Have a mindset: "no matter what it takes and how long - I will get there"
Very true!! I wanted to do it in a year. I felt so down when I was a year and a half in without a job.
@@WebDevJapan Yup. I remember this really ridiculous propaganda: "You can become a dev in a few months! I know a guy..." They didn't mention that "that guy" was in his early 20s, well-connected, and was hired as an intern with tax benefits for employers from the government IT program. Even back then during prosperity most self-taught dev's needed 2-3 years. Now It's probably 3-5 years minimum. And mandatory 2 years of freelancing/serious projects. Yet - I believe it's possible.
Currently doing bootcamp at 32.and i am getting my ass kicked. I told myself i will get there no matter how long it will take...
It will all be worth it. This is a grind for your long term financial security.
It's only 1-2 years in Japan if you speak Japanese.
absolutely not too late, better late than to eat your own heart for the rest of your life. During my university studies I met plenty of 30 and 40+ who just started studying computer science, most of them not having a regular jobs throughout their lives and were slaving through to reach where they are now; I cherish and admire those people for making their decision
Yeah! I've seen it many times. Anyone can do it at any time if they just choose to make a change.
understanding that everyone has their own timing and life path makes it so much easier to improve. You get used to listening to success stories of kids starting at damn near toddler ages to learn programming, that you forget those are exceptions not the rules. It makes such a difference when you start living off of that, not only for programming but everything.
yep, so true
34 and currently learning to code. Thank you for this!
You got this! What are you studying right now?
@@WebDevJapan I'm working through the javascript certification on freecodecamp right now
Perfect! That's how I started. I did the HTML & CSS course first.
@@WebDevJapan 39 and have always wanted to learn to code to get a better paying job to give my children a better life. School bus driver now and I have the time to learn. Just discovered your channel and its what I have been looking for all this time. Thank you
You can do it! It's a lot of hard work but it will pay off eventually if you don't give up.
man what a nice video, all you see in social media now a days is don't do this, don't do that or your too old to do it, am 31 and i decide i want to learn tech and keep learning
Thank you. Yeah, there are also people saying you can do it in 3-6 months...which is not realistic. It's hard, it might take 2-3 years, but it will always be worth it in every case if the person just keeps at it!
The biggest thing people need to remember is, comparison is the killer of joy. If you compare yourself to others, you will never be satisfied, there will always be someone younger or smarter or richer or whatever, you should not worry about what others are doing with their life or when they achieved goals, you should only ever compare yourself to yourself. Are you further ahead then who you were yesterday? If yes, then you are already better than you were.
I am in a similiar situation, I was working as a qualified chef until I had a work place injury, had surgery on my spine twice, had to get strong again, but i could never return to being a chef, i could no longer stand for long periods of time, or be in a role that active, so it forced me to change careers, so i went back to university to study game design. 3 and a half years later, i am in my final semester of uni and about to enter a new industry at 35 years old. Change can happen if you want it to change badly enough, or in my case, having no choice.
Thanks for sharing your story! I love how you turned a challenging situation into an opportunity for growth. Game design sounds fun if that's something you enjoy doing.
I’m 20 years old and I recently fell in love with programming. I want to work on the backend and I wanted some advice or suggestions. Thank you.
For back end, the Go programming language is where the money is at. My friend with the highest total comp has done mostly Go jobs his whole career.
im 32 now... and i remember i started college at 24. i thought i was "too old" haha because i saw videos about dudes learning before 20 to start programming and even selling software by themselves.... this is probably 0.001% of population.
then i realized even 40yo+ entered the career too. and NO ONE cares about your age at the end of the day. at least in my country its highly uneducated to ask for the age of a person... if he/she wants to say it, its fine. but you dont go around asking people's age for no reason.
anyway... you are right about that its NOT easy, i would say it takes at least 2-3 years of study and hard work to have a solid base and start working in the industry in a full time job.
probably some people can do it in 1 year or 2 years..... but we must be realistic too . i hate when i see videos talking about "how to become a programmer in 6 months" or something like that.... because its NOT real.
Yeah I've seen a couple of videos where people said they got a job in 3 months after starting to study. It's very depressing when you're a year into your own studies and feel like you're at least another year away from being employable.
Then I go and watch a few of their other videos and see they actually studied computer science at university but dropped out and worked a random job for a few years. Then when they restarted with self study they counted that as starting at zero.
Or like one guy who said he did it in 6 months but he was a fresh grad with a math degree. I know it's not programming but a math degree will give you the analytical skills you need to succeed in programming. Then after watching like ten of his videos he slips up in one video and said he spent a weekend learning html and css during university to build a simple web page. But a weekend of study for a math major could be like 10+ hours of focused study. He probably got more done in that weekend than someone casually learning could do in a whole month, maybe more.
So, the summary is...a lot of those people are lying and it's detrimental to people trying to get started.
Thank you. Dedication will lead to success.
Yes, it will!
You are never too old to learn.
It is never too late!! 😅
You're never too old to rock and roll, if you're too young to die!
Bingo-not easy, but 100% possible. I’m 32 and I’m a self-taught software engineer working in big tech without a degree. Subscribed! 🥳
That is awesome!! I'm not sure if I'll ever make it to big tech. I've actually been going deep into e-commerce development freelancing lately and thinking about just working for myself. I did buy the cracking the coding interview book before I found my first job and was thinking big tech would be my goal after getting a little bit of industry experience. But...well, goals change.
@@WebDevJapan Ironically enough, that's the path I am on as well! Working for yourself is the gold standard and it's extremely motivational to see. Go all in man and I believe the rewards will be well worth the effort! Excited to follow along--cheers to your goals 🍻
man glad to know you did it you look 30 don't worry about it i am 23 and thinking i am late but you inspired me also how you study how to handle distractions and also i procrastinate a lot any tips
If you're getting started now imagine where you'll be when your my age!
I'm actually planning out a video about this but one way I fight against procrastination is having accountability. If you have someone, or a small group of 3-4 people, that you meet with on the same day every week (just online meeting is fine), and you hold each other accountable. It could be like a mastermind group or just an accountability partner, or even paying for a tutor. I paid a programming tutor in Africa $10/hr to meet with me once a week for an hour, go through some coding challenges and curriculum and assign me homework. Whether it's a paid tutor or you accountability partner or a weekly meeting with a mastermind group, you won't want to face them if you played video games and watched anime all week instead of working on your goals. How can you face them? It does add some stress until you get used to just working on your goals and not wasting time.
Handling distractions is simple, keep my phone downstairs all day while I'm working in my office upstairs. Don't have it in the same room. Don't have any notifications for any social media enabled on my computer. I actually went for over a year without having any social media logged in on my computer but I'm more in control of myself now so I do have facebook and instagram logged in, but still no notifications, never notifications. And that phone better be on silent even when it's in the other room. You have to get into focus mode and not any ways to distract you out of it.
Also, I don't have a TV and don't have any gaming console. I do have Pokemon Go on my phone but that's only when I'm going out somewhere. Once every few months I do have a relapse and re-install a game from Steam (currently no games on my computer) or binge rewatch one of my favorite anime. Nobody is perfect. But I keep a streak going on my calendar. If I have a day where I get all the work done that I know I should do and don't partake in any of the BS that distracts me from it, I put a big X on that day and I try to get longer and longer streaks of perfect days.
I am turning 33 in next week. I was just having these thoughts that its too late for me to learn how to code and this video popped up in my feed. Its been two months I've started learning. I needed to hear something like this. I just want to say thank you for making and posting this video. ❤ We need more of these.
Never too late!
Motivational to hear stuff like this. I'm in my 30s trying as well and just trying to make a better life for my family.
It will pay off eventually
im 28 .i started last year with powershell , now i know how to do web dev front & back end & c# , thanks to chat gpt as well for expalnng everything like im 5
Powershell! That's an intersting way to get started. What learning resources did you use?
JUST DO IT 💪
Should i switch to cyber security since in the future because of Ai, companies wont be hiring that much employees(maybe 70% needed) needed to finish the job and can be automated using AI? I heard Cyber Security is a safe option.
I think everything will be affected to some extent by AI. I would just choose what you like doing. If your skills are high enough you won't get automated out.
But that is an interesting idea about Cybersecurity being more automation proof. I haven't heard anyone talking about that. I'll have to look into it.
35yr old learning the HTML & CSS
the struggle is real
been grinding and learning golang backend for almost a year now, going to start applying for jobs mid next month. (in japan)
Awesome! Golang positions seem to pay very well since there is less people doing it.
That mic is not connected to camera yet it receives voice😮
lol yeah I have the worst filming set up
I record the video with a $50 mic on an old android phone.
The main video is recorded on an iphone.
I import the two video tracks into Filmora video editor, make sure they are synced up, separate the audio and video I got on the android phone and delte the video so I have the good audio left over. Then mute the video I took on my iphone.
It's the system I've been using for years and I just don't have time to figure out a different way to do it.
@@WebDevJapan cool no problem as long as it serves no need to change.
I checked the biggest jobdatabase in my country.
Under 800 IT jobs in all segments.
15-20 % is fake job posts to collect your data.
15 % is not even IT jobs just mixed up wrong in IT category as fill the space really.
10-15 % off them is not even jobs at all, just mini sell ads for other stuff then work.
So jobs for IT support, IT programmers, is so limit, that people are forced away.
And the demands for entry level, trying to learn in there 30-40-50+ is almost impossible.
You need 5-10 years backing that up, and do at least 2-3 people work at the same time.
And CV that checkes all the marks else AI / HR will push you out like you are nothing at all.
And even fulltime jobs is very hard to find in the IT segment.
Intern / free whit no pay is displayed as the new normal.
Dude which country is that? Sounds horrible. It's not like that at all in Japan.
@@WebDevJapan Denmark.
I got a add picture from the CEO running it.
That said "8 out off 10" is at work.
Just meaning that, they are not even trying to find / create new jobposting openings. Just refill the existing ones. And not the ones that really bad need a job fast in the sector. Pretty wild really.
I think a similar situation is happening in India. That's why there are so many IT guys from India trying to move to Japan and get jobs.
Seems you workout regularly do you workout regularly?
Yeah I do something 5-6 days a week. If I don't have time to go to the gym I'll just do push ups and stuff in my room or go outside during my lunch break and do sprinting for 5-10 minutes. Also just random streching and stuff for a minute or two throughout the day if I'm waiting for dependencies to install or I get stuck on a bug or something.
I was very worried writing HTML at 33 years old 😆😅. L
lol I code as a weak ass. Wish I can do proper. Company seems to think my skills good enough to replace a massive software system with all their data and yeah. I started coding pro and paid at 40. I consider myself beginner. But hey so far it works. But one thing with all the stuff the dude is talking about. Coding gives you more grey hair than kids.
When poop hits fan, code monkey and 8 hours a day. It is hard to stay consistent more than 40mins an hour.
But yeah the ad part meh. Keep coding though dude
I'm not making enough money at my entry level job to really care when shit hits the fan so I'm not getting any grey hairs. I can see how stressful it would be if I was scared of losing the job though.
Learn to code to start your own business. Capitalism as we know it might be under threat.
Yes. I'm starting my own business to help all those people who want to start their own business. I'm making Shopify stores on the side.
@@WebDevJapanlmk if need any help or want to partner at all. I’m learning how to code after 4yrs of procrastinating and messing with python, then html and css. However I have been doing side projects and offering web dev for past 2yrs to pay my bills. Would love to join you. Also do you have a discord?
He's wrong, it's too late only because you have to compete now with current out of work developers, all time high graduate rates and with kids with 0 responsibilities. He did this when the demand was all time high, he got his job 4 years a go, roughly. US customs and control is hiring right now, really high on demand. Don't waste your time, its over.
Dude I'm 1 year into my first tech job. I got hired right in the worst of it, with no CS degree or anything. It's only over if you let yourself believe that. For people with the right mindset it's only just beginning.
@@WebDevJapan got that Andrew tate hustle mentality huh I'll think about it
Funny you say that yeah...I've probably watched every video he had online before he went to jail. I also watched 4 hours of his leaked Hustlers University on making money online and that led me to making my own shopify store and getting into dropshipping. I made a few thousand dollars from it. I don't watch his content now though because he always talked about breaking free from the Matrix but then ended up on house arrest and locked up in the Matrix.