I just got my new cruiser last Wednesday it came with wire stabilizers on the front fender, no more wiggle and the hellbender head set no wobble now I don’t ride no handed but I have one handed with no issues, with both batteries installed. Thank you for the recommendation of this bike it’s awesome for a larger old man such as myself
Great vid. I like the addition to the cruiser rather than from factory. I have an ecells 5* just got it this weekend. Reason I like your setup is for the fact the motors are on separate setups. Better controll of motor dial-ins. Easier to get your individual desires from the setup. Just so all consumers understand, example here... having a 1500w rear and 1500w front motor does not give you 3000ws. Both motors although may be on 2 different controllers are still using the same display. If display or wiring goes bad, neither motor works. The dual motor system lessens the stress on either motor when used in tandem. The bigger benefit to Citizens setup is the individual tuning of each motor and in a "worse case" sinario, if one goes out,including display, you still have a way to make it home. I believe your setup is a better soltion than a factory dual motor ebike. Thank you for sharing with us. Hope your family is doing well.
For the new Wired plus we need a kit that uses the existing 2 batteries like the Predator bike. Maybe motor , new control panel and rear front switch to get the same setup as the New Wired Predator. You the smartest guy develope this Kit.
There is definitely enough room. I flipped the bike upside down took the battery out took out the metal bar underneath that metal bar is all the stock wires so I just ran the wires from the motor kit right next to him. Put the plate back on totally stealth.
To really take advantage of that front wheel kit put the bike and pedal assist five hit both throttle then pedal your ass off the front wheel drive helps you pedal faster quicker much faster that way than just with both throttle trust me
I have one of your front motors on my 2024 Wired Cruiser. I am very pleased with the increase in power and hill climbing ability. Plus, Citizen’s customer service is top notch.
Like many I have a basic fat tire bike with a 48v 750 hub motor with a 22A controller. Ok performance but not great. Something with the performance of your front motor kit, but in a rear wheel upgrade package would interest me. Rear motor wheel, controller and display to make 750w bikes perform like 2000w bikes like the Wired.
Wish this bike had front rack mount. I think the controller mounted/hid in a front mount would be sweet. Is there a way to wire your kit into the factory 2 batteries?
I'd want it to work with one of the two batteries that it already comes with instead of having to buy a third battery. Is there no 60V motor for the front? Or would you need a another device to lover the voltage coming from the battery for the motor that you sell?
The motor can be run with a 60v battery. It would just require using a controller capable of higher voltage. A 60v controller could be used with the stock batteries.
@luigiprovencher Yes. Each hub motor runs on a separate controller. The bikes controller is a 60v controller. But the controller with the front wheel kit is a 52v controller. The capacitors in a 52v controller can not handle the full-charge voltage of a 60v battery. A 60v 35a controller would work well with Citizen's front wheel. He uses an easily available type of controller and display called KT (KunTeng). His KT LCD-8H display will work with a 60v battery. If you used a 60v controller with the front wheel, it will gain top speed. Citizen said the front wheel currently pulls to about 32mph on 52v. Switching to a 60v controller should let the front wheel pull to about 36mph.
I have a cruiser coming and i plan on getting one of your kits eventually. Do I need to change to a different rst guide fork than what comes with the bike ? I just saw a video that said they had to because of the quick release front axle on the new versions. I'll change it if i have to but i was just wondering.
@moodyfox3108 yes, you will have to swap forks. the guide Forks on the newer wired bikes have a through axle and for the kit you'll need the older style rst guide with open dropouts
You do not have to drill a hole on the one side there is room just to smoosh the wires in. They have protective coating on it so there’s no chance of pinching. It’s a tight fit, but it fits.
I'd love to see a standing start with the controller dialed in a little so that there isn't so much traction loss--I'm assuming it'd be even faster off the line! 😎
I’m very interested in that bike as well. In fact, I purchased a $100.00 reservation for one earlier today. I would really like Citizen do a review on that bike.
Interesting, here did you read that? Biktrix did make some initial contact with me but as of right now it's not on my schedule, but hopefully it will be.
What about the fork? That fork is not designed for a motor , they brake , very dangerous, so do you sell a fork for a motor preferred air fork or at the least an adjustable spring fork ? If so, you got my sale , the only reason I didn't upgrade is the fork. In the end I purchased an dual motor ebike
I always use the rst guide forks for my dual motor conversions I've never broken a set. I did have to swap out the wired forks for a different kind of guide fork with open dropouts instead of the hole for through axle. In the near future I'm also going to be selling a double crown air fork that will work with my kit
Hey CC, thanks for your great content. I looked at the website and it looks like the Cruiser is quite a bit smaller than the Freedom. Is that the case? The website is pretty inaccurate on some things so I was wondering if the specs geometry portion was correct. I had the Freedom but sold it and I’d like the Cruiser step thru but I’m very tall so the lower handlebars etc are much smaller on the specs page. Any help on that would be appreciated greatly!
@rvboondocker2559 the cruiser is not really any smaller than the freedom. I see that spec sheet on their website and it's pretty incorrect. The handlebars are the same height the seat is the same height. the cruiser still a very big bike just has the convenience of the step through
I like it. I love the fact that it is not a moped style and does 40 mph. As long as one is not crazy, I dont see the cops bothering anyone on that. And places where theres ebike restrictions… I dont think its a problem because it so much looks like a regular bike.
The next round of kits are supposed to be delivered end of October. Then need to be trucked to the warehouse, hoping to start shipping them out around November 5th.
There are no issues with overheating, Wired has sold thousands and there is no problem. Just BS from the criminal enterprise known as e cells which was founded by an ex con and who has slandered Wired incessantly. Cleveland claims the contoller overheats because his bike has 1000 less watts and is more expensive. The dual star bikes have a horrible death wobble and the company has an F rating from the BBB. Guess who puts their controllers inside of the bike frames? E cells. What a piece of poop.
@@TheTcat1000lol😂😂 take your meds, you have no idea who I am but I’m living rent free inside your head😂😂. Is it true that Cleveland’s sack smells like coke? Inquiring minds want to know.
Sameee I got mine last week I was told might be a temperature sensor issue it’s 30 degrees outside and it’s overheating on flat surfaces contacted wired and being sent a new motor
I may have to others have commented that it's easy. my bike may be a little different though, it's the Prototype so there's no room to feed the wires into the frame in the existing holes I'd have to cut them larger
I couldn't make it past the first 7 minutes of this segment. What I'm i missing does his guy end up giving a review at some point. Funny back story? funny to who? You're 2 years behind the curve. And Steven has a pool at his house and😂 It's a great bike that's been reviewed by so many others and way better. Wired picked the right guy Citizen Cycle, is far superior to Mr laughy full of himself.
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I just got my new cruiser last Wednesday it came with wire stabilizers on the front fender, no more wiggle and the hellbender head set no wobble now I don’t ride no handed but I have one handed with no issues, with both batteries installed. Thank you for the recommendation of this bike it’s awesome for a larger old man such as myself
Thanks for contributing! yes I put a short fender on mine. it did come with the longer fender with support wires.
Great vid. I like the addition to the cruiser rather than from factory. I have an ecells 5* just got it this weekend. Reason I like your setup is for the fact the motors are on separate setups. Better controll of motor dial-ins. Easier to get your individual desires from the setup.
Just so all consumers understand, example here... having a 1500w rear and 1500w front motor does not give you 3000ws. Both motors although may be on 2 different controllers are still using the same display. If display or wiring goes bad, neither motor works. The dual motor system lessens the stress on either motor when used in tandem.
The bigger benefit to Citizens setup is the individual tuning of each motor and in a "worse case" sinario, if one goes out,including display, you still have a way to make it home.
I believe your setup is a better soltion than a factory dual motor ebike.
Thank you for sharing with us.
Hope your family is doing well.
For the new Wired plus we need a kit that uses the existing 2 batteries like the Predator bike. Maybe motor , new control panel and rear front switch to get the same setup as the New Wired Predator. You the smartest guy develope this Kit.
There is definitely enough room. I flipped the bike upside down took the battery out took out the metal bar underneath that metal bar is all the stock wires so I just ran the wires from the motor kit right next to him. Put the plate back on totally stealth.
Do you have a video on yours?
I don’t know how to post videos but I can send Brian pictures through his email
To really take advantage of that front wheel kit put the bike and pedal assist five hit both throttle then pedal your ass off the front wheel drive helps you pedal faster quicker much faster that way than just with both throttle trust me
I have one of your front motors on my 2024 Wired Cruiser. I am very pleased with the increase in power and hill climbing ability. Plus, Citizen’s customer service is top notch.
@johnhecht5565 thank you so much for the feedback!
Like many I have a basic fat tire bike with a 48v 750 hub motor with a 22A controller. Ok performance but not great. Something with the performance of your front motor kit, but in a rear wheel upgrade package would interest me. Rear motor wheel, controller and display to make 750w bikes perform like 2000w bikes like the Wired.
Wish this bike had front rack mount. I think the controller mounted/hid in a front mount would be sweet. Is there a way to wire your kit into the factory 2 batteries?
Mine is only on order, but this is possible with the Topeak tetrapack. A couple riders have done this and shared their success on the Wired FB group.
I'd want it to work with one of the two batteries that it already comes with instead of having to buy a third battery. Is there no 60V motor for the front? Or would you need a another device to lover the voltage coming from the battery for the motor that you sell?
The motor can be run with a 60v battery. It would just require using a controller capable of higher voltage. A 60v controller could be used with the stock batteries.
@@jimmyjames8736 The controller that it comes with is 45ah 60v so what are you saying that it would need a second one?
@luigiprovencher Yes. Each hub motor runs on a separate controller. The bikes controller is a 60v controller. But the controller with the front wheel kit is a 52v controller. The capacitors in a 52v controller can not handle the full-charge voltage of a 60v battery.
A 60v 35a controller would work well with Citizen's front wheel. He uses an easily available type of controller and display called KT (KunTeng). His KT LCD-8H display will work with a 60v battery. If you used a 60v controller with the front wheel, it will gain top speed. Citizen said the front wheel currently pulls to about 32mph on 52v. Switching to a 60v controller should let the front wheel pull to about 36mph.
I have a cruiser coming and i plan on getting one of your kits eventually. Do I need to change to a different rst guide fork than what comes with the bike ? I just saw a video that said they had to because of the quick release front axle on the new versions. I'll change it if i have to but i was just wondering.
@moodyfox3108 yes, you will have to swap forks. the guide Forks on the newer wired bikes have a through axle and for the kit you'll need the older style rst guide with open dropouts
You do not have to drill a hole on the one side there is room just to smoosh the wires in. They have protective coating on it so there’s no chance of pinching. It’s a tight fit, but it fits.
CitizenCycle I have a question for you !!! Do you have any idea which dual crown fork would be best suited for the Wired Freedom
I'd love to see a standing start with the controller dialed in a little so that there isn't so much traction loss--I'm assuming it'd be even faster off the line! 😎
The bike looks awesome and so does the video! Great work!
Thanks!
I read that you will be reviewing the biktrix roguehawk fs ebike cause I'm interested in your evaluation of it compared to the wired bikes?
I’m very interested in that bike as well. In fact, I purchased a $100.00 reservation for one earlier today. I would really like Citizen do a review on that bike.
Citizen..will your front hub motor fit on the Roguehawk??
@@chrissmithsonian4819 I think the 26×4 tire will.
Interesting, here did you read that? Biktrix did make some initial contact with me but as of right now it's not on my schedule, but hopefully it will be.
FB advertisement of the bike, where someone had asked if it was going to be reviewed, a biktrix rep mentioned citizencycle.
What about the fork? That fork is not designed for a motor , they brake , very dangerous, so do you sell a fork for a motor preferred air fork or at the least an adjustable spring fork ? If so, you got my sale , the only reason I didn't upgrade is the fork. In the end I purchased an dual motor ebike
Yeah those RST Guide forks are garbage as it is
I always use the rst guide forks for my dual motor conversions I've never broken a set. I did have to swap out the wired forks for a different kind of guide fork with open dropouts instead of the hole for through axle. In the near future I'm also going to be selling a double crown air fork that will work with my kit
Citizen, can you shunt mod the controller for your front hub motor? What are your thoughts on shunt modding the Wired bikes?
Yes you can shut my controller, of course voids the warranty. however you cannot shunt mod the new wired controllers, they are filled with thermal gel
Hey CC, thanks for your great content. I looked at the website and it looks like the Cruiser is quite a bit smaller than the Freedom. Is that the case? The website is pretty inaccurate on some things so I was wondering if the specs geometry portion was correct. I had the Freedom but sold it and I’d like the Cruiser step thru but I’m very tall so the lower handlebars etc are much smaller on the specs page. Any help on that would be appreciated greatly!
@rvboondocker2559 the cruiser is not really any smaller than the freedom. I see that spec sheet on their website and it's pretty incorrect. The handlebars are the same height the seat is the same height. the cruiser still a very big bike just has the convenience of the step through
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks buddy. I’ll order it via your page:)
Great job looks good
Thanks 👍
how much power in NM both engines?
I like it. I love the fact that it is not a moped style and does 40 mph. As long as one is not crazy, I dont see the cops bothering anyone on that. And places where theres ebike restrictions… I dont think its a problem because it so much looks like a regular bike.
I agree I think having the bicycle frame is definitely a benefit, keeps it more low profile
I hope that your part of NC is okay, Citizen. Nice video.
Yes we are safe, I live in eastern part of North Carolina we got about a half day of rain that was it
Hey Bryan, I hope you and the family are safe and good after the hurricane.
@@f1dog yep all good 👍
What size headset would I have to get for the hellbender headset on the wired cruiser bike.
Hellbender 70 Visco 28.6
Looks really good. A custom bike builder like Orange County Choppers could do one 😂
where do you live? those neighborhoods look amazing.
When should we be receiving your kits should be this month right i can't wait to put this kit on my cruiser
The next round of kits are supposed to be delivered end of October. Then need to be trucked to the warehouse, hoping to start shipping them out around November 5th.
wicked fast!
Which Hellbender headset fits the Wired Cruiser?
Visco 70
@@TheTcat1000 thanks!
So how do you know not to use the front motor in a turn?
It will spin out of control in lack of wheel traction in front.
@@davidvasquez3564 My comment was meant to be funny, but thank you.
Hmm.. kinda like what I'm getting, the E-Cells Monstar. Probably could save some settling for a Billy Goat that goes 45+ mph. I don't have hills.
You are going to be so disappointed😢
Just imagine when u put some new tires on it whewwwww I love it or are those new tires or the original ones
My uncle just got this bike the front wheel needs to come off ASAP !!
Haha 🤣
my question is whats up with wired bikes overheating i have other bikes and it’s not a issue…
There are no issues with overheating, Wired has sold thousands and there is no problem. Just BS from the criminal enterprise known as e cells which was founded by an ex con and who has slandered Wired incessantly. Cleveland claims the contoller overheats because his bike has 1000 less watts and is more expensive. The dual star bikes have a horrible death wobble and the company has an F rating from the BBB. Guess who puts their controllers inside of the bike frames? E cells. What a piece of poop.
@@jfly2249 you do realize that everybody knows who you are!
@@TheTcat1000lol😂😂 take your meds, you have no idea who I am but I’m living rent free inside your head😂😂. Is it true that Cleveland’s sack smells like coke? Inquiring minds want to know.
Sameee I got mine last week I was told might be a temperature sensor issue it’s 30 degrees outside and it’s overheating on flat surfaces contacted wired and being sent a new motor
Cool 😎 I like 👍
You know what they say, Anything worth doing should be done to excess lol
I would have preferred that you take the time to route thru the frame........
I may have to others have commented that it's easy. my bike may be a little different though, it's the Prototype so there's no room to feed the wires into the frame in the existing holes I'd have to cut them larger
Don’t they come with dual motors already
No. They have dual batteries.
They don't come with dual motors from wired but you're really going to want to see one of my videos coming up in a few days hint hint😁
Those motor hubs won't last long particularly the planetary gears, because your treat it like a motorcycle without the PAS.
Thats what Bad Green Machine! :) ... whats not to like about that
Yes their re-design of this wired Cruiser frame was excellent. And adding the motor adds even more excitement
great job. GET TO WORK ON THAT NEW VIDEO. 😜🤐
Editing it now 🤫
@@CitizenCycle925 awesome thanks🤐lips sealed lol
H. C. 😂🎉😂
I couldn't make it past the first 7 minutes of this segment. What I'm i missing does his guy end up giving a review at some point. Funny back story? funny to who? You're 2 years behind the curve. And Steven has a pool at his house and😂 It's a great bike that's been reviewed by so many others and way better. Wired picked the right guy Citizen Cycle, is far superior to Mr laughy full of himself.
I really want to see this bike vs furious ebmx .