This might be true if the drive mounts were designed properly, didn't have to pay for drive mounting accessories, designed it for properly for watercooling support, poor vertical gpu solution, no riser cable, obscenely priced. No idea how it gets 8/10. The Lancool III and just about every other case around this level are a far better purchase.
Storage is not really a case issue anymore, with higher end MB's you're getting 3-4 NVME slots and you can add in a PCIE NVME expander as well. There's enough spots for SSD's to add a lot more storage with larger capacity SSD's getting less expensive. Mechanical drives these days are best used in a NAS and left out of the main PC reducing noise at the user end. Great review, Be Quiet has done a great job with this case for the price point, you could always get the DX version for $120 or so if RGB isn't your thing and save a few bucks there.
Great review and some good humour. I agree its a shame be quiet dont offer a 420mm cooler to go with this. I'm now having to debate getting their 240mm cooler instead of the 360mm cooler just so the fan sizes match.
big fan of bequiet! always have been. this is a very nice case design and reasonbly priced. Leo - for the money what competes well against this in your opinion.
I love bequiet cases in the past. This one reminds me of the Montech Air 903 MAX which is much cheaper. I know the bequiet build quality will be excellent but the montech is priced very well and slightly smaller if you dont need all the space.
That fairly skinny 420 AIO might fit, but the better/quieter Artic Liquid freezer 2 420 AIO most likely will not. I purchased my Fractal Meshify 2 (case is only 7mm narrower than this one) and Arctic Liquid Freezer 420 AIO with an MSI B550 Tomahawk. Due to the height of the VRM heatsink assembly on the MB the AIO does not fit. As I found out afterwards the MB heatsink must be a maximum of 36mm to clear the cooler. Be interested if you feel up to it to try to fit the Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 420 AIO without taking a file to the MB! I know this case is taller than Meshify 2, but the space between top of motherboard and top fan/rad mount looks very similar.
I am quite sure you can install the Arctic in the front of the case. I demonstrated the installation of a chunky EK radiator but may not have mentioned there is 65mm space inside the front for the cooler and as the fans are outside the frame and behind the front cover all of that space is available. The Arctic radiator is 38mm thick so it seems to me you have loads of clearance. Leo
For those planning to use a thicker 420 AIO in the top there are clearance issue's to consider with the motherboard. I have just bought this case (thanks Kitguru for the excellent review btw!) i have used a Arctic Liquid freezer III 420 in the top and the fans hit the motherboard heatsink (Asus b550) at the top. Meaning i have the shift the rad as far forward as possible and even pushing it into the wiring at the front of the case just to get it to fit. This also causes the front screw holes to be unusable. It "fits" but by no means properly. So if you want a 420 get a slimmer version. Or make sure your motherboard heatsink (The one over the i/o / vrm portion) is low enough to clear a thicker rad. Other than this issue due to my choice of hardware this case is amazing.
Could you put the arctic freezer III 420 in the front? Or even in a push/pull configuration? I’m thinking to use 3x silent wings 4 140mm infront of the front panel (inside the front mesh) and behind it then the af lf iii420. In the top and back again total of 4x silent wings 4/ or the stock wings. I already build the system (7800X3D, Sapphire 7900XT Vapor, MSI Tomahawk X670E, dark rock 5, base 800 DX). The temps are okay (max load not above 80-85*Celcius) but it’s to loud, even under 50-75% load. I want to get my pc as cold and quite as possible without getting a custom loop.
@@dnkmp I think it should fit but i didn't go that route because i didn't want the hot air from the rad being blown into the case. Check the video at the 7:30 mark for rad fitment in the front. You should measure spacing at the bottom of the case for clearance of the thicker rad and fans. Dimensions as per Arctic site 458 (L) x 138 (W) x 38 (H) mm
Another great review. I want to build two PCs each with my preferred aio, the Arctic liquid freezer 2, which is a slightly thicker aio. It's also one of the most popular aios on the market. There is not enough clearance on the SB800 between the top of the mobo and case to fit the LF2. It's shy 1 quarter of an inch. I don't think this is a coincidence but at any rate I will be using 2 Lian li evo xl cases. That's over $400 in cases and fans that be quiet is missing out on. I also would have bought 2 1200watt be quiet psus. That's close to another $600 that be quiet missed out on. I don't understand their business philosophy.
Good review. 2 questions. 1. Did the 420 aio interfere with the front fans? 2. Im thinking of using the arctic liquid freezer ii 420, which is a little thicker than the corsair 420 aio. Is there enough clearance for it to fit up top without creating conflicts with the top of the mobo and its fan pins and cpu power connecters from the psu? Thanks.
decent cases if a tad expensive for a box, myself i like the fractal xl just for all the drive space - even though you have to buy or fab caddies - you wil start to get hyped up for zen5 soonish - could somewhat of a sea change? we will see but so far things look pretty good
Just bought the shadow base 800 FX. Truly beautiful case. Though is it possible to fit the Arctic Liquid Freezer 360 II in it without issues? I noticed their radiator is thicker than most.
@KnightRider-lq5yb Larger cases are much better for airflow, as you say, but there's something about the compactness of an itx build that appeals to me.
No need you can mount 3 x 2.5 drives inside it without the need for a cage. You can use a cage to add extra drives but for most people the 3 should be plenty.
I was a hair away from buying this until I saw the temperature and the rear cable management. Thats unacceptable for competing with the O11D evo XL price point.
It's Thursday, February 22, 2024 as I noticed seeing the dated reply's. This video seems older than the 5 Months and your using an AMD Sapphire 6950XT. After all the latest GPU's are AMD 7900XTX or Nvidia's RTX 4090 or Nvidia 4000 series Super variants, which seem to be the elite GPU's at this time. I have tis Computer case ready to purchase but to get an answer from Be Quiet I have to show proof of purchase and a serial number. Now why would I purchase this thing before I can find out if it will fit an ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 - All-in-One CPU AIO Water Cooler. And to make this clear the Arctic 420 AIO doesn't come with a a 420mm length radiator. Rather it has Dimensions Dimensions 458 x 138 x 38 mm (Radiator) For me I hate mm because I'm a United States Carpenter, we still use English fractions and have since our Colonies sent Englishmen Carpenters to build America, Oh My that's 600 years of English taught carpentry math. "It's great to be English!" I had to get that in! So in English an Arctic 420 AIO isn't a 420mm radiator its 458mm as stated on various websites but it's closer to 462mm or 18 3/16" 18 5/32". This may sound ridiculous, I assure you it is important. I use many other manufacturers computer cases and they always state radiator lengths that will fit their Cases yet they all fail to mention AIO's = "ALL IN ONE+ units equipped with radiators , fans and or RGB lighting. I have tried to get AIO dimensions for use in other computer cases often buying a case and I have bought a lot of Computer cases to find out only after buying them and often need (Proof of Purchase and a Serial number) from Fractal Design, Be Quiet. Lian-li, and many others. I mention these companies because they often just, "Kick The Can Down The Road" hoping some one else does the work for them, never bothering to actually help anyone. Hope you can, by asking Be Quiet to send me a reply without buying their Shadow Base 800DX.
Just bigger Pure Base 500 FX/DX with option to mount GPU vertically and it all for absurd money. Just buy yourself e.g Fractal Meshify 2 or Lancool III and see the difference, have something adequately good instead.
This case is not good at all. So many missed opportunities and issues and is pretty much the same price as the EVO XL, FYI the 2 side SSDs are meant to go in the main section of the case and that plastic bit is the cable cover
Stuart, you are quite correct the the 2.5-inch SDD mount on the vertical bracket go on the main chamber side of the mount, rather than the PSU side. We stand by our 'Worth Buying' award for this model www.kitguru.net/components/cases/leo-waldock/be-quiet-shadow-base-800-fx-review Leo
Thank you including radiators of various sizes in this test is very helpful
Perfect Base 800! 👌
Be quiet! well done!!! 👏
You nailed in this review Leo!
Thank you very much for this, this is going to be my next build - I will probably purchase the same components as used.
fantastic chassis. very impressed with the design elements.
This might be true if the drive mounts were designed properly, didn't have to pay for drive mounting accessories, designed it for properly for watercooling support, poor vertical gpu solution, no riser cable, obscenely priced. No idea how it gets 8/10. The Lancool III and just about every other case around this level are a far better purchase.
Really appreciate your thorough and straight to the point approach!
Thanks !
Favourite case this year. I think.
great looking chassis that. very impressed. saw tom logans review. seems leo is in agreement
Good review Leo. Interesting to see how Bequiet are moving forward this year
My friend bought this. It’s a really nice case.
Like the noise absorbing material on the back panel thats a nice touch that.
leo you suit that hat. and very nice case. I really thought it wouldnt be as appealing as it ended up
Nice build Leo
Lovely job ❤
Storage is not really a case issue anymore, with higher end MB's you're getting 3-4 NVME slots and you can add in a PCIE NVME expander as well. There's enough spots for SSD's to add a lot more storage with larger capacity SSD's getting less expensive. Mechanical drives these days are best used in a NAS and left out of the main PC reducing noise at the user end. Great review, Be Quiet has done a great job with this case for the price point, you could always get the DX version for $120 or so if RGB isn't your thing and save a few bucks there.
It seems like you know what you are talking about. Nice job !
Loocs solid and proper.
Very thorough. Thanks very much for this! 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Great review and some good humour. I agree its a shame be quiet dont offer a 420mm cooler to go with this. I'm now having to debate getting their 240mm cooler instead of the 360mm cooler just so the fan sizes match.
Blue and purple on the RGB lighting look best on the white case looks very cool.
big fan of bequiet! always have been. this is a very nice case design and reasonbly priced. Leo - for the money what competes well against this in your opinion.
Thing looks fantastic, Im just looking for more mATX options
That’s a good case. Could do a lot with it
Like that RGB on the front panel.
Amazing the amount of upgrades bequiet have been able to achieve with a single sku.
Quite like the lighting setup on the front panel.
I think a couple of those HDD caddies should come by default in the package.
I was hoping you use some be quiet! watercooler but good case, I had one previous model
The 2024 SAG award goes to! gigantic vid card! I made a joke :P
Thank you! very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
That is a very quiet build the 4mm glass really helps quiet things down.
I love bequiet cases in the past. This one reminds me of the Montech Air 903 MAX which is much cheaper. I know the bequiet build quality will be excellent but the montech is priced very well and slightly smaller if you dont need all the space.
Good case that.
The 420 radiators do not fit in that case
Case of the year, easy.
That fairly skinny 420 AIO might fit, but the better/quieter Artic Liquid freezer 2 420 AIO most likely will not. I purchased my Fractal Meshify 2 (case is only 7mm narrower than this one) and Arctic Liquid Freezer 420 AIO with an MSI B550 Tomahawk. Due to the height of the VRM heatsink assembly on the MB the AIO does not fit. As I found out afterwards the MB heatsink must be a maximum of 36mm to clear the cooler. Be interested if you feel up to it to try to fit the Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 420 AIO without taking a file to the MB! I know this case is taller than Meshify 2, but the space between top of motherboard and top fan/rad mount looks very similar.
Arctic need to make their own case for those coolers, the beefier ones hardly fit in any cases.
Surprised they don’t build some already themselves.
I am quite sure you can install the Arctic in the front of the case. I demonstrated the installation of a chunky EK radiator but may not have mentioned there is 65mm space inside the front for the cooler and as the fans are outside the frame and behind the front cover all of that space is available. The Arctic radiator is 38mm thick so it seems to me you have loads of clearance.
Leo
The only option is change the fans for the Arctic to the slim fans then you can install in the top of this case
For those planning to use a thicker 420 AIO in the top there are clearance issue's to consider with the motherboard. I have just bought this case (thanks Kitguru for the excellent review btw!) i have used a Arctic Liquid freezer III 420 in the top and the fans hit the motherboard heatsink (Asus b550) at the top. Meaning i have the shift the rad as far forward as possible and even pushing it into the wiring at the front of the case just to get it to fit. This also causes the front screw holes to be unusable. It "fits" but by no means properly. So if you want a 420 get a slimmer version. Or make sure your motherboard heatsink (The one over the i/o / vrm portion) is low enough to clear a thicker rad. Other than this issue due to my choice of hardware this case is amazing.
Great feedback thanks for taking the time to help others.
Could you put the arctic freezer III 420 in the front? Or even in a push/pull configuration?
I’m thinking to use 3x silent wings 4 140mm infront of the front panel (inside the front mesh) and behind it then the af lf iii420. In the top and back again total of 4x silent wings 4/ or the stock wings.
I already build the system (7800X3D, Sapphire 7900XT Vapor, MSI Tomahawk X670E, dark rock 5, base 800 DX). The temps are okay (max load not above 80-85*Celcius) but it’s to loud, even under 50-75% load.
I want to get my pc as cold and quite as possible without getting a custom loop.
@@dnkmp I think it should fit but i didn't go that route because i didn't want the hot air from the rad being blown into the case. Check the video at the 7:30 mark for rad fitment in the front. You should measure spacing at the bottom of the case for clearance of the thicker rad and fans. Dimensions as per Arctic site 458 (L) x 138 (W) x 38 (H) mm
Makes sense to test coolers on AMD an Ryzen since they run insanely hot.
Excellent review!
This or Dark Base Pro 901?
Another great review. I want to build two PCs each with my preferred aio, the Arctic liquid freezer 2, which is a slightly thicker aio. It's also one of the most popular aios on the market.
There is not enough clearance on the SB800 between the top of the mobo and case to fit the LF2. It's shy 1 quarter of an inch.
I don't think this is a coincidence but at any rate I will be using 2 Lian li evo xl cases. That's over $400 in cases and fans that be quiet is missing out on. I also would have bought 2 1200watt be quiet psus. That's close to another $600 that be quiet missed out on.
I don't understand their business philosophy.
Hopefully they don't continue dropping solid side panel versions from the lineup. Or at least offer a solid panel you can order.
Good review. 2 questions. 1. Did the 420 aio interfere with the front fans? 2. Im thinking of using the arctic liquid freezer ii 420, which is a little thicker than the corsair 420 aio. Is there enough clearance for it to fit up top without creating conflicts with the top of the mobo and its fan pins and cpu power connecters from the psu? Thanks.
I'm looking for a response to squeezing the artic liquid freezer in there too, did you manage to find something about it?
Samesies
@@48CBraa I found out that the 800 is 5 mm shy to accommodate the freezer iii. I'm sure that is NOT a coincidence. I went with the Lian li 011 evo xl.
Would be a good case for custom watercooling setup
Corsair 7000d
decent cases if a tad expensive for a box, myself i like the fractal xl just for all the drive space - even though you have to buy or fab caddies - you wil start to get hyped up for zen5 soonish - could somewhat of a sea change? we will see but so far things look pretty good
Did you buy a fractal xl ? What do you think if you have built into it.
Yes, this needs a white 420 light wings aio, be quiet!
Yes I agree.
White fans absolutely !
Can u install a 420 artic liquid freeze II (or III) on the top?
The artic radiator is a little bigger than others... :/
Saw the thumbnail and was asking myself wtf is he wearing. Now I know why, and I need that bucket hat.
Just bought the shadow base 800 FX. Truly beautiful case. Though is it possible to fit the Arctic Liquid Freezer 360 II in it without issues? I noticed their radiator is thicker than most.
Yes, I have it
Its quite expensive, but i love the design, I think i might pick one up later in the year.
Will 800 fit Arctic Liquid Cooler 420mm on top? I want to purchase it but...
Not a bad case. But not sure it’s top 5 for me at the price point.
it’s a good deal overall
Can we please take a moment to note that unlike so many white cases the cables are also white?
Good point that I failed to mention in the review
Leo
@@KitGuruTech It's attention to detail like this that makes such a difference.
Just bought the DX variant, at 3:29 you claim that both DX and FX have a fan hub. This information is not correct, the DX does NOT have the fan hub :(
I prefer my h170 icue link!!!
Amazing that 40 plus years later expansion cards are still the same format.
I've fallen out of love with large cases. I much prefer itx these days.
any reason why? I like big cases for airflow.
@KnightRider-lq5yb Larger cases are much better for airflow, as you say, but there's something about the compactness of an itx build that appeals to me.
Dont like the non horizontal positioning of the hard drive think it would cause it to wear out faster.
I wouldnt remove the front filter even without pets its amazing the amount of dust that comes out of nowhere.
What's wrong with hanging the Hard Drive?
Kudos for considering pet-owners :D
You didnt throw things about too much in this video leo, you must be having a good day !
This competes against the G500a?
Not sure about those light bars on the front they look a bit cheap to me.
I wonder if a 56mm rad on top will touch a Noctua D15...
First
They should include an hdd cage as standard.
No need you can mount 3 x 2.5 drives inside it without the need for a cage. You can use a cage to add extra drives but for most people the 3 should be plenty.
Ok, who do I have to kill to get that bucket hat???
Do they offer them in colours or just white and black ?
Only white and black.
did I miss the price ?
He starts listing the prices at 0:24
Any throttling at 96C?
Do like some bequiet gear.
You can barbeque on those Ryzens.
What exactly makes it a shadowbase?
I’m sorry but 96 degrees, with a 420 AIO ? How ?
Can anyone comment on this vs the fractal torrent RGB?
*Full size model.
Thanks!
They are completely different to each other. If Torrent appeals I doubt the 800 will, and vice versa
ruclips.net/video/E7nchcN2DeQ/видео.html
Leo
@@KitGuruTech Thanks for your reply.
I guess the issue is I'm just a novice so I don't know which one would be suitable for me.
@@adriant.7457in my opinion the shadow base 800 is better. The torrent has very little space for cables. And it has the unappealing top mount Psu.
So annoying case manufacturers have removed provision for removable media.
remove side can add fans?
You mean, like a Lian Li O11 or Corsair 5000D? nope, I would have mentioned that significant feature.
Leo
Shame they missed a trick there
Its a bit stingy for storage provision.
Motherboard manfuacturers are going to have to start making white PCBs.
People still use SATA drives?
Leo should wear bucket hats all the time to stop blinding the viewer with those reflections from his bonce.
I was a hair away from buying this until I saw the temperature and the rear cable management. Thats unacceptable for competing with the O11D evo XL price point.
It's Thursday, February 22, 2024 as I noticed seeing the dated reply's. This video seems older than the 5 Months and your using an AMD Sapphire 6950XT. After all the latest GPU's are AMD 7900XTX or Nvidia's RTX 4090 or Nvidia 4000 series Super variants, which seem to be the elite GPU's at this time. I have tis Computer case ready to purchase but to get an answer from Be Quiet I have to show proof of purchase and a serial number. Now why would I purchase this thing before I can find out if it will fit an ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 - All-in-One CPU AIO Water Cooler. And to make this clear the Arctic 420 AIO doesn't come with a a 420mm length radiator. Rather it has Dimensions Dimensions 458 x 138 x 38 mm (Radiator) For me I hate mm because I'm a United States Carpenter, we still use English fractions and have since our Colonies sent Englishmen Carpenters to build America, Oh My that's 600 years of English taught carpentry math. "It's great to be English!" I had to get that in! So in English an Arctic 420 AIO isn't a 420mm radiator its 458mm as stated on various websites but it's closer to 462mm or 18 3/16" 18 5/32".
This may sound ridiculous, I assure you it is important. I use many other manufacturers computer cases and they always state radiator lengths that will fit their Cases yet they all fail to mention AIO's = "ALL IN ONE+ units equipped with radiators , fans and or RGB lighting.
I have tried to get AIO dimensions for use in other computer cases often buying a case and I have bought a lot of Computer cases to find out only after buying them and often need (Proof of Purchase and a Serial number) from Fractal Design, Be Quiet. Lian-li, and many others. I mention these companies because they often just, "Kick The Can Down The Road" hoping some one else does the work for them, never bothering to actually help anyone.
Hope you can, by asking Be Quiet to send me a reply without buying their Shadow Base 800DX.
Just bigger Pure Base 500 FX/DX with option to mount GPU vertically and it all for absurd money. Just buy yourself e.g Fractal Meshify 2 or Lancool III and see the difference, have something adequately good instead.
You think it’s absurd money ? Really ?
@@haremofprocessors6954 200€ and not even including a single hdd caddie? C'mon!
Yes compared to the meshify 2 or lancool 3.
To be honest it looks like a very standard generic chassis
I paud more than this for my icue 7000x , this in my mind looks better and can accomodate the same hardware , and corsairs commander core sucks
A single 3.5 inch hard drive is just depressing.
its shaq sized.
It’s mahousive
This case is not good at all. So many missed opportunities and issues and is pretty much the same price as the EVO XL, FYI the 2 side SSDs are meant to go in the main section of the case and that plastic bit is the cable cover
Stuart, you are quite correct the the 2.5-inch SDD mount on the vertical bracket go on the main chamber side of the mount, rather than the PSU side.
We stand by our 'Worth Buying' award for this model
www.kitguru.net/components/cases/leo-waldock/be-quiet-shadow-base-800-fx-review
Leo
Will my pc go faster if i wear that shirt..?😏
Overpriced.
Ni Ti DO