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3:06 I like having the slot because finding good portable M-Disc capable BDXL burners has proven to be a real crap shoot. (For that matter so have external 5.25" drive USB cases) With a regular internal 5.25" drive the reliability is much better.
I'm a 5 &1/4" bay after my stupid UBS 3.0 connection to my case was so impossible to pull off the motherboard it literally pulled the connection end right off of it. Leaving me with the connector on the board I removed & the plug connection to only have pins dangling about with no way to connect to another board -_-. as I was just changing boards. Who designed this dog crap case usb 3.0 connector?
I like that almost everyone involved in the quality hardware, overclocking and modding channels scene get along and have a blast whenever they can get together. Very little drama, unless a manufacturer goes full retard (looking at you ASUS) and then it's usually correctly targeted. I pretty much gave up on most Twitch channels I used to watch because a lot of these people have all sorts of drama go on between them, never realizing that the only way to change the relationship between them and Twitch is to get along with other streamers so they can form a united front. With the ASUS situation, everyone togther putting their foot down is what got ASUS to change their tactics. And I'm confident that the united protest against RUclipss idiotic and nonsensical policies is what will eventually get them to change. There will be a critical mass event like the ASUS bios shit with RUclips, that will get their voices heard.
@@enlightendbel I agree, it's refreshing in an era when most other communities are filled with toxic people having childish toxic feuds for no other reason than ego and pats on the back from their respective fanboys.
As a man sensitive to e-waste, Steve, you'll appreciate that I am not about to chuck my collection of DVDs and BluRay disks so, for me, the 5.25 inch bay was essential! Now insofar as one could be said to "love" such a thing as a computer case, then I'll admit that I love my DarkBase Pro 900Rev2!
Don't tell any of the other creators, but GN is the only one I'm watching. It's not like I need to see a tour of the same booth 4 different times anyway.
Don't know about others but I personally still use cd's, allthough not that often. What I do use very frequently are blue ray's. Way better quality than most if not all Streaming services. Never mind the 4k ones. Point is, a case with atleast one slot for an optical drive is most desireable. I don't care much about appearance but performance and practicality!
Almost three years ago I got a DarkBasePro900rev2. It is really awesome and I have it stacked with filters, fans and drives, it's easy to maintain and stays clean. I have five fans incoming for good airflow as it processes 24/7 at 100%. But it clicked all the boxes for my specific uses. I'll be looking to install an EATX MoBo in in the next year or two. This is the first time I see myself keeping a case for (potentially) a decade or more. I'm impressed still with the thick metal, the fit and build of the case, and am totally happy with it. If the case is nearly perfect, only when the technology changes and we don't need massive cases to hold 64TB like I have in mine, will I feel it is really important to change this case out.
What can I say that hasn't already been said... Roman is a legend. So good to see the two together! We need a podcast from Steve and Roman.... The PC Detectives Could listen to the pair forever
I love my Dark Base Pro 900, mine's been inverted for nearly 6 years and it's fantastic, glad to see them keep it going. Wish they kept both 5.25" bays (I use SSD hot swap bays in there) but one is still better than none.
X2 for the hot swap bays. I still use an old Fractal Define R4 as a server tower. And that's what I use its 5.25s for. Another case I rip DVDs and burn demo CDs for local bands. 5.25s might be "dead" to most, but there's still valid use cases (pardon the pun).
Honestly the Fractal Pop being able to adapt the 5.25 bays to the modern generic design is amazing. IMO if I were into that style I'd go with a Pop to have a BD drive and swap bays. But I'm more partial to the Meshify tho, which has me have those disks just hanging right outside the case instead.
I don't use CDs/DVDs anymore but am still interested in keeping 5 1/4" bays around for the purpose of upgradeable I/O panels, or hotswap storage bays I still have some old 3.5" HDD hotswap caddies that fit into these 5 1/4" bays but it'd be awesome to see something like half I/O and half m.2 bay. Plus case mounted screens for stats are making a comeback, so why not bring back the dual bay touch screen fan controllers too?
Steve and GN...THANK YOU for everything ya'll do! By far one of the very few YT channels and media channels I trust and go to for tech coverage. Please never stop!
I have a Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2 for nearly three years now and I have zero complaints with it. Out of all of the cases I've built in, this has been the best one I've had. I can't wait to get my hands on this one!
I love that they're bringing back the possibility for 5.25 bays on cases it's actually the reason I tracked down an older cooler master MC500 so I have the airflow quality and the 5.25 bay
There are still people who appreciate the 5.25" bays. You can get 100 GB on an XL Blu-Ray, which is great for following the 3-2-1 backup maxim. 3 copies, 2 distinct types of media (optical is more robust in some ways than hard drives), and 1 copy offsite. Burn some disks every month or so and give them to a friend who lives across town to look after. That way if your house burns down you still have something.
I'm a fan of the be quiet! products, I want to have my optical drive, no RGB, and silent performance. This 901 looks pretty good to me, but it's coming out a bit too late for my current build.
Same I ended up giving up on the optical drive and just keep the old pc around for that and went fractal torrent since it was my first build and I knew I wanted to underclock stuff so even with the airflow pretty quite with a 105 w 7950x and 6700xt oc
wow, im so happy Steve and Roman got the bromance back together, it was something I never thought we'd see again and now that I think about it, it's been 3 years. Just my opinion, but you guys should really have a podcast together. Both brilliant content creators in this hobby and I think many would love to hear your guys podcast!
Part of the reason I still use a 15+ year old Cooler Master CM690 Tower case is because it has two 5.25 optical drive slots. It's useful for watching bluray , dvd's and loading old games I have on disc. It also has excellent ventilation and with the 8 case fans I have installed it runs very cool without the fans having to ramp up very much when gaming. I removed all the 3.5" hard drive bays including the permanently installed ones so there is a huge amount of open space inside the case. Haven't had a compelling reason to replace it since I'm not a bling guy. I have done 4 or 5 builds in it so far.
be quiet! have some *_really_* nice airflow-focused cases. *_REALLY_* love the removable motherboard tray, both aesthetically and functionally for ease of building.
I love the ! mark over Debauer right after he talks about vibration pads being included with the case. I recently bought a lian li o11 xl, and I was so surprised the hard drive cages did not have anything.
I'm really excited to see a review of the 901 Pro! I don't need a 5.25 bay but I like having the option to have one to soothe my old person agitations about not having one anymore even though I haven't used an optical on my desktop PC in a few years. HTPC tho, that gets the DVD drive used, maybe that's the 901 Pro target audience!
YES! 5.25" bay! I just wish it wasn't only on the hyper expensive and massive case. I don't need inverting, I just need 5.25", 140mm fan compatibility, a good amount of intelligent HDD mounting, and sound deadening material. Screw case windows, BE QUIET. Don't want flashy distracting lights in the first place.
5.25 is not dead, sorry. Beyond using it for optical drives for archival reasons, having a space to easily add accessories the user wants (more front USB, card reader, &c &c) is hardly niche use. If you're getting a tower, the advantage IS it's size (aka space). It's foolish to put an mATX or ITX boards into a tower and have over half of it empty.
I’ve got an the msi a520 m pro in montech 1000 case and it looks decent only about 2-2.5 inch gap at bottom of case near power supply, if I decide to get atx board then don’t have to bother getting a case, Matx use less power but 1 more pcie would be better only has the 16xlane and a 4xlane not too bad tho was first pc build and with all new parts cost like £330-350 maybe got a be quiet second hand cooler 150w rated it’s ok a Ryzen 5600g and I have been replacing the thermal paste and checking for about a month now and with all case fans low speed, idle temp on around 20-22 degrees 200-400mhz web searching and RUclips playback, high speed fan idle is 18.9-19.3 degrees and that’s with cheap h510 paste computers be advancing so quick am6 is gonna be out and I just managed to get an am4 chip that I didn’t know had 16mb l3 cache I paid £115 for the chip brand new amazon, and I agree optical drives are still relevant, a lot of good og pc games cheap and easy to get
We need more "common sense" options on low-mid range cases, too. Things like 120mm OR 140mm rear exhaust, and disk drive mounts without having to sacrifice cooling, cable management or PSU choice. (My 500dx is great, but it's hdd cage isn't. It restricts psu length and blocks the bottom fan, so I had to mount my storage hdd without the cage.)
Love the look of the new 901, I hope they made the front and top panels compatible with the 900 chassis, allowing people to at least breathe new life into their existing case(albeit missing some of the cool new features that the 901 chassis brings). Although given the differences in layout and such, I kinda doubt it.
I like how there's been a correlation of the sponsor on each of these Computex videos with the products being covered and I suuuuuuuure hope you managed to charge each of them a few pennies extra for the more relevant targeting!
So many neat things coming. I love the pin contactor setup for the fans in that first case. I tried to fit 2x420's in my Cosmos... Couldn't get it to work with the EX static I/O for the radiators. Might try again next time I have the fluid out.
There is more stuff you can do with a 5.25 drive slot. I ran a 3.5 + 2.5 hotswap in mine, and on my "Handbuild NAS" I have Sata Power Switched in them. Hope some cases will continue to have them.
As someone that keeps his PC case on the floor (on a stand) next to him while sitting at the desk, that Qi charger would be an actually useful feature.
I Love Der8auer! Thank you for talking to him. I'm German on my dad's side. I watch him and you since I stopped watching Linus tech tips. I wish I could have gone to that convention.
I love the double 5 1/4" bay on my Dark Base Pro 900. It's a great spot for a triple 3.5" hot swap hard drive bay. Sad to see that feature go away, but I can understand that it's a very niche usecase...
Gamer Nexus is literally the reason i had such a good tower for years i saw Benchmarks for the be quiet 900 rev 2 my pc never got to like 70 Temps always cool really great Chanel can only recommend him
I like the 901 possible inverted layout, and i like the GPU support that also has the cable channel in it. The connectors for the PWM and ARGB and toolless drive cages are a good touch. Shadow 800 also seems nice. Good thing they're updating their cases, they were really lagging behind.
Love be quiet! The Pure Rock cooler and Pure Base 500 FX i got on their anniversary sale are absolutely stellar. Went from a blacked out build to more RGB to pair with my 3070 Aorus master and it looks amazing! Super excited to see these coming to market as they looks so good!
The reason why I am still using the case that I am is actually in large part *specifically* for the disk drive. I refuse to give it up, wherever possible I like to own my media outright and disks are probably the most reliable way of doing so and I still have a fairly large amount of 'legacy' games on disks. I don't use the drive every day or anything but it *does* get used and it is very important to me
Looks like you guys are going to have a ton of case reviewing work to do for the next months. It's amazing how manufactures have massively improved the developement of new cases since last year, after some years stuck with same design solutions. Next year or two are going to be really interesting on this market.
I own the current Dark Base 900 rev 2 and I really like it. Very well built and premium looking. I like the GPU cable shroud but not enough to buy a whole new case for it. Here's hoping they sell that independently to existing 900 owners.
The "sound damping foam" is more heat insulation than sound isolation on my Silent Base 800. Just Bitumen would likely be better than that for both keeping the case from rattling (which it does) and allowing heat to be emitted by the side-panels. The one shown for a few seconds in this video is a *lot* thinner, though, so it seems that they got rid of the heat insulating foam stuff?!
I built my own case just for the CD player so I can listen to my music from the 70's. I had to do the same to my 2018 car and cut a large hole in the dash and installed a double din Am/Fm CD player. For the cost They should have 3-140's in the front and 1 in rear on the 900 series. I think all cases should come with filters and let you decide as like Lian Li has the filters but if you want you have to pay extra and never in stock.
Great new cases from a really good company, I have been slowly moving parts in my personal rig to Be Quiet! brand and might just go all in for the 901. I like 800's look better but to ditch the external DVD for an in case design again really sells me on the 901. Streaming is good but when the internet is down or the services don't have an older movie you want to watch the DVD unit really comes in handy. Let's not even talk about the spinning circle of overloaded network crap you get with most streaming services, even on cable modems. Great reviews Steve and Co.
I built my latest PC in a Dark Base Pro 900 literally only because of the 5 1/4 support. but its awesome, tons of room for a 4080/90 build. I'm running like 14 fans including 2x push pull rad setups, ,multiple old-school HDDs, and a Blu-ray drive. its the quietest case I've ever owned and temps stay icy cold.
Genuinely quiet parts, 9/10 build quality or higher, thoughtful design, German company, good looking, good service, good websites/clarity of information/manuals. They do everything well? I can't really fault them for anything but cost. But even then you get what you pay for so it's a great deal in my opinion. My system has be quiet parts everywhere it can for this reason.
BQ is such an underrated brand. The build quality of all their products is absolutely top notch. I'm very happy with my BQ case and cooler, and my next build will probably have a BQ PSU.
They have pretty good build and material quality for their cases and some of their newer fans, but their PSUs arent that great. They charge as much as Corsair/Seasonic, but have worse electrical stats like ripple, load regulation, transients etc.
Underrated? Uhh... as far as I know, they are considered a higher tier brand. And they do make nice cases in terms of quality as well as good PSUs. So "underrated" isn't quite the right word, I'd say.
I would be careful with their recent PSUs. The later P11, the P12, P13 and E11 are all more or less plagued with a loud rattling/growling fan even at minimum load, to the point where you can hear them from several meters away. It's possible that not every unit is affected but the frequency of noise complaints has gone way up.
@@cl4ster17 Folk should buy only the products a company is strong in and makes, or at least designs, in-house. So many times the problem is the OEM something has been farmed to.
I know it's ridiculous but I wish companies would make more modern and sleek cases with support for optical media drives, I still use disks enough that it's a deal breaker if my only option is to run a USB disk drive taking up a USB port 24/7
I have a Pure Base 500DX and it's like the Noctua of cases: not flashy, but very efficient and functional: the case is a high airflow design (yet quiet!) with all the routing options you could ask for, enough space for 4000 series cards, and the thermals you want (cool, so quiet case/CPU/GPU fans). Put some Silent Wings 4 140mm fans inside (move lots of air at low RPM, basically silent even at full gaming/productivity load) and it's very quiet. The loudest part of my PC was the HDD which I moved to an external enclosure for mass storage, the rest is NVME or SATA SSDs. My next case will be Be Quiet, 100%. Like Noctua, they've set a high standard for performance. I swear I was not paid to write this, but I think a lot of people overlook how important a good case is: but if you do any gaming or productivity work, the last thing you want is system fans sounding like a jet engine. Some cases have barely ANY airflow which means fans have to work insanely hard to generate any airflow, but that can be remedied with a good airflow design (like the DX, or a torrent, lian li airflow cases, etc.) Good case design means good airflow, better case temps, and quieter gaming/app usage. The difference between a well made case makes such a huge difference in a build, both for thermals and adding/routing components cleanly, and Be Quiet has done a solid job with their designs. Highly recommended!
I miss cases with 5.25" bays...so much so, I ended up picking up the old but venerable Antec Nine Hundred....but to use as a NAS box (with 5-in-3 hotswap modules) (still hoping more case manufacturers would make a good NAS-friendly cases, perhaps something that supports either a tool-less hot-swap or can use Supermicro drive sleds)
4:38 Daaaamn, just one more USB-C connector and this would be the perfect case. But the fact that they've retained the wireless charger from the DBP 900 is wonderful enough to the point where I'm willing to forgive it. And the fact that it has 5.25" support still, even though it's just the one slot and it's on the bottom like Fractal's Pop (which can do two, despite being on the bargain basement by comparison), is a wonderful boon for those who do a little casual optical media preservation. Either way it's good to see that people are going to get their money's worth with front I/O that isn't totally abysmal compared to others in the same price range.
Hahaha I was not expecting Steve to talk about LightScribe today, that really takes me back. be quiet! definitely has my attention with a 5-1/4" drive bay though. I'm looking forward to the review of this case for sure.
I wish companies would stop shipping high-end cases with fans preinstalled from factory. It adds cost for almost no benefit to the customer, the vast majority of whom will have their own preference with the factory fans ending up on ebay or unused and wasted.
$300, even with inflation, is way way too much for those cases. $300 is Caselabs or god-tier watercooling support. Or extremely well designed cases that make Apple look like they are slumming it, design-wise. $300. Good lord. That was a midrange GPU in 2016.
Love my 801 and 802, 801 is full of hdd cages and fans as a file server and the 802 is my gaming rig. Both are amazing cases, so quiet og great quality with attention to detail.
I also have an interest in cases with drive bays, (glad you remembered to include it) I have an all in 1 Blu-Ray RW drive for both old old CD version of PC games that I have, and Blurays, since I use my PC for everything. It is hard to find a new modern case, that provides such a slot, along with having good air flow for air cooling, which has sufficient space for all my extra fans that I want to keep. Failing that I might have to get an external drive of some kind :(
This 901 looks great, and this 5,25 bay is something that got my attention. Another attempt to reverse ATX, but flipping looks easy. I would love to build in that if I ever will be able to afford that. It most surely will be expensive.
Ridiculous fun to watch when you making a mess! These videos on Computex floor is really interesting and I’m enjoying to watch all the new tech. Keep it up!
We covered the Fractal Terra on the small side over here! ruclips.net/video/sgZbz1wi33E/видео.html
And our coverage of a really unique fully passive case: ruclips.net/video/ZVpO4Owmgko/видео.html
Check out @der8auer-en here! www.youtube.com/@der8auer-en
Or his channel auf Deutsch: ruclips.net/user/der8auer
3:06 I like having the slot because finding good portable M-Disc capable BDXL burners has proven to be a real crap shoot. (For that matter so have external 5.25" drive USB cases) With a regular internal 5.25" drive the reliability is much better.
@@TwistedMe13 I miss physical media drives.
I'm a 5 &1/4" bay after my stupid UBS 3.0 connection to my case was so impossible to pull off the motherboard it literally pulled the connection end right off of it. Leaving me with the connector on the board I removed & the plug connection to only have pins dangling about with no way to connect to another board -_-. as I was just changing boards. Who designed this dog crap case usb 3.0 connector?
@@kevinerbs2778 not sure but in the future be very careful. From my understanding the tolerances vary between board makers.
Great to see Steve and Roman's bromance is back after the pandemic. It is just like old times at computer shows. All the best guys!
So happy to have shows again to see everyone!
I like that almost everyone involved in the quality hardware, overclocking and modding channels scene get along and have a blast whenever they can get together.
Very little drama, unless a manufacturer goes full retard (looking at you ASUS) and then it's usually correctly targeted.
I pretty much gave up on most Twitch channels I used to watch because a lot of these people have all sorts of drama go on between them, never realizing that the only way to change the relationship between them and Twitch is to get along with other streamers so they can form a united front.
With the ASUS situation, everyone togther putting their foot down is what got ASUS to change their tactics.
And I'm confident that the united protest against RUclipss idiotic and nonsensical policies is what will eventually get them to change.
There will be a critical mass event like the ASUS bios shit with RUclips, that will get their voices heard.
@@enlightendbel I agree, it's refreshing in an era when most other communities are filled with toxic people having childish toxic feuds for no other reason than ego and pats on the back from their respective fanboys.
@@mannydcbiancodude this was toxic. Nothing but Steve being macho man and Roman being polite. Bullying at its finest
There was a pandemic?
Steve and Roman need a podcast to talk industry smack off the record
We'll call it... Off the Record On the Record
@@GamersNexus that would honestly be pretty interesting. Even as a one time thing.
@@GamersNexus Please make that happen! ;-)
@@GamersNexus Umm yeah this is actually a great idea.
@@GamersNexus I nominate "Power Switch podcast" to be the name.
Roman and Steve's banter is amazing to watch.
hahaha. That's certainly one way to describe it!
Hilarious :). Wonder what was the level of scripting here. Very inspiring. Looking forward to tomorrows breakfast.
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@@GamersNexus You don't like him very much, do you?
@@MegHumperthey're lovers, don't worry.
Roman really is a genuinely cool guy who takes the quality of his products seriously. Loving these vids, btw! Thanks and be safe over there!
Real people, not paid actors. Wait.. Real people, paying actors. 😂
I'm in Australia so I have to use inverted cases otherwise they just fly into the sky. So it's nice to have more inverted options.
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I have a question about pc cases in Australia ... Do they come with a spider as a bonus? :}
@@GbpsGbps-vn3jy You mean a "Call that a spider? THIS is a spider!", (the one that eats T Rexes, 🙂)
@@GbpsGbps-vn3jy No. Usually the snakes that we use as power cables eat them.
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As a man sensitive to e-waste, Steve, you'll appreciate that I am not about to chuck my collection of DVDs and BluRay disks so, for me, the 5.25 inch bay was essential! Now insofar as one could be said to "love" such a thing as a computer case, then I'll admit that I love my DarkBase Pro 900Rev2!
So true. Nice to see options for that also in new cases!
A lot of different creators cover Computex. GN's is by far the most informative and enjoyable. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for the support!
Yea GN and LTT coverage is so much fun
Don't tell any of the other creators, but GN is the only one I'm watching.
It's not like I need to see a tour of the same booth 4 different times anyway.
The coverage from Dawid Does Tech Stuff was pretty good too, that mouse he found was uhhhhhh LOL
The DVD/Bluray drawer feature here totally got my attention, People still use disks Steve!
It's lovely to see Roman and Steve reunited at the shows!
Holy crap, Roman is hilarious! You guys have good banter, hope to see more interactions in the future!
Steve yes, but Roman?
And he speaks German quite well. 😆
5.25" drive support is honestly one major reason I bought my original DBP 900. There really aren't a lot of options out there...
Silverstone Seta D1 gives you 4 bays :)
Very true
Don't know about others but I personally still use cd's, allthough not that often. What I do use very frequently are blue ray's. Way better quality than most if not all Streaming services. Never mind the 4k ones.
Point is, a case with atleast one slot for an optical drive is most desireable. I don't care much about appearance but performance and practicality!
Almost three years ago I got a DarkBasePro900rev2. It is really awesome and I have it stacked with filters, fans and drives, it's easy to maintain and stays clean. I have five fans incoming for good airflow as it processes 24/7 at 100%. But it clicked all the boxes for my specific uses. I'll be looking to install an EATX MoBo in in the next year or two. This is the first time I see myself keeping a case for (potentially) a decade or more.
I'm impressed still with the thick metal, the fit and build of the case, and am totally happy with it. If the case is nearly perfect, only when the technology changes and we don't need massive cases to hold 64TB like I have in mine, will I feel it is really important to change this case out.
I have the Dark Base Pro 900 rev 2. I'm glad they're still keeping at least one 5.25" bay for an optical drive.
What can I say that hasn't already been said... Roman is a legend. So good to see the two together! We need a podcast from Steve and Roman.... The PC Detectives
Could listen to the pair forever
I love my Dark Base Pro 900, mine's been inverted for nearly 6 years and it's fantastic, glad to see them keep it going. Wish they kept both 5.25" bays (I use SSD hot swap bays in there) but one is still better than none.
X2 for the hot swap bays. I still use an old Fractal Define R4 as a server tower. And that's what I use its 5.25s for. Another case I rip DVDs and burn demo CDs for local bands. 5.25s might be "dead" to most, but there's still valid use cases (pardon the pun).
5.25" is why I bought a Fractal Pop, and I'm glad to see that they're still getting a little bit of love.
Fractal Pop mini is a lifesaver for those bays
Honestly the Fractal Pop being able to adapt the 5.25 bays to the modern generic design is amazing. IMO if I were into that style I'd go with a Pop to have a BD drive and swap bays.
But I'm more partial to the Meshify tho, which has me have those disks just hanging right outside the case instead.
The 5.25“ is also useful for other stuff. My case got 6 slots and 3 of them are used by stuff that aren’t drives 😆
I don't use CDs/DVDs anymore but am still interested in keeping 5 1/4" bays around for the purpose of upgradeable I/O panels, or hotswap storage bays
I still have some old 3.5" HDD hotswap caddies that fit into these 5 1/4" bays but it'd be awesome to see something like half I/O and half m.2 bay.
Plus case mounted screens for stats are making a comeback, so why not bring back the dual bay touch screen fan controllers too?
Steve and GN...THANK YOU for everything ya'll do! By far one of the very few YT channels and media channels I trust and go to for tech coverage. Please never stop!
Roman and Steve would be a amazing (tech) bromance
We need the Steve x Roman extended cut. I love it when you guys are goofing around.
I have a Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2 for nearly three years now and I have zero complaints with it. Out of all of the cases I've built in, this has been the best one I've had. I can't wait to get my hands on this one!
I love that they're bringing back the possibility for 5.25 bays on cases it's actually the reason I tracked down an older cooler master MC500 so I have the airflow quality and the 5.25 bay
There are still people who appreciate the 5.25" bays. You can get 100 GB on an XL Blu-Ray, which is great for following the 3-2-1 backup maxim. 3 copies, 2 distinct types of media (optical is more robust in some ways than hard drives), and 1 copy offsite. Burn some disks every month or so and give them to a friend who lives across town to look after. That way if your house burns down you still have something.
I'm a fan of the be quiet! products, I want to have my optical drive, no RGB, and silent performance. This 901 looks pretty good to me, but it's coming out a bit too late for my current build.
Same I ended up giving up on the optical drive and just keep the old pc around for that and went fractal torrent since it was my first build and I knew I wanted to underclock stuff so even with the airflow pretty quite with a 105 w 7950x and 6700xt oc
I managed to find one of the few remaining Dark Base Pro 900 Rev2 cases for sale here for my new build. It's such an elegant yet feature packed case.
Ah, so Roman's main form of sustenance is from thermal paste that makes sense. Thanks Steve!
wow, im so happy Steve and Roman got the bromance back together, it was something I never thought we'd see again and now that I think about it, it's been 3 years. Just my opinion, but you guys should really have a podcast together. Both brilliant content creators in this hobby and I think many would love to hear your guys podcast!
Part of the reason I still use a 15+ year old Cooler Master CM690 Tower case is because it has two 5.25 optical drive slots. It's useful for watching bluray , dvd's and loading old games I have on disc. It also has excellent ventilation and with the 8 case fans I have installed it runs very cool without the fans having to ramp up very much when gaming. I removed all the 3.5" hard drive bays including the permanently installed ones so there is a huge amount of open space inside the case. Haven't had a compelling reason to replace it since I'm not a bling guy. I have done 4 or 5 builds in it so far.
The one hand pc taking apart and mic control is amazing. Could be a weather guy in a hurricane for the news.
Pro 901 looks like an old school beast of a case, pure function.
Man this sounds like a dream case. Clean no BS design. Overblown details. Why the hell not.
4:42 USB naming, from right to left, those are USB-C, USB-3.1415927, USB-Rectangle (GMT), USB-Blue, and then USB-Grandfather
Roman just went challange effing accepted!
Love to see it! You two have a great time with eachother, always a good time
be quiet! have some *_really_* nice airflow-focused cases. *_REALLY_* love the removable motherboard tray, both aesthetically and functionally for ease of building.
I love the ! mark over Debauer right after he talks about vibration pads being included with the case. I recently bought a lian li o11 xl, and I was so surprised the hard drive cages did not have anything.
Thanks!
I'm really excited to see a review of the 901 Pro! I don't need a 5.25 bay but I like having the option to have one to soothe my old person agitations about not having one anymore even though I haven't used an optical on my desktop PC in a few years. HTPC tho, that gets the DVD drive used, maybe that's the 901 Pro target audience!
YES! 5.25" bay! I just wish it wasn't only on the hyper expensive and massive case. I don't need inverting, I just need 5.25", 140mm fan compatibility, a good amount of intelligent HDD mounting, and sound deadening material. Screw case windows, BE QUIET. Don't want flashy distracting lights in the first place.
5.25 is not dead, sorry. Beyond using it for optical drives for archival reasons, having a space to easily add accessories the user wants (more front USB, card reader, &c &c) is hardly niche use. If you're getting a tower, the advantage IS it's size (aka space). It's foolish to put an mATX or ITX boards into a tower and have over half of it empty.
I’ve got an the msi a520 m pro in montech 1000 case and it looks decent only about 2-2.5 inch gap at bottom of case near power supply, if I decide to get atx board then don’t have to bother getting a case, Matx use less power but 1 more pcie would be better only has the 16xlane and a 4xlane not too bad tho was first pc build and with all new parts cost like £330-350 maybe got a be quiet second hand cooler 150w rated it’s ok a Ryzen 5600g and I have been replacing the thermal paste and checking for about a month now and with all case fans low speed, idle temp on around 20-22 degrees 200-400mhz web searching and RUclips playback, high speed fan idle is 18.9-19.3 degrees and that’s with cheap h510 paste computers be advancing so quick am6 is gonna be out and I just managed to get an am4 chip that I didn’t know had 16mb l3 cache I paid £115 for the chip brand new amazon, and I agree optical drives are still relevant, a lot of good og pc games cheap and easy to get
We need more "common sense" options on low-mid range cases, too. Things like 120mm OR 140mm rear exhaust, and disk drive mounts without having to sacrifice cooling, cable management or PSU choice. (My 500dx is great, but it's hdd cage isn't. It restricts psu length and blocks the bottom fan, so I had to mount my storage hdd without the cage.)
I like cases that include 3 5.25" bays in the front so I can run an adaptor chassis for a 3.5" SAS Raid Array.
Love the look of the new 901, I hope they made the front and top panels compatible with the 900 chassis, allowing people to at least breathe new life into their existing case(albeit missing some of the cool new features that the 901 chassis brings). Although given the differences in layout and such, I kinda doubt it.
I like how there's been a correlation of the sponsor on each of these Computex videos with the products being covered and I suuuuuuuure hope you managed to charge each of them a few pennies extra for the more relevant targeting!
It's great to see companies sponsoring the coverage and review of their rivals' booths.
So many neat things coming. I love the pin contactor setup for the fans in that first case. I tried to fit 2x420's in my Cosmos... Couldn't get it to work with the EX static I/O for the radiators. Might try again next time I have the fluid out.
There is more stuff you can do with a 5.25 drive slot. I ran a 3.5 + 2.5 hotswap in mine, and on my "Handbuild NAS" I have Sata Power Switched in them. Hope some cases will continue to have them.
As someone that keeps his PC case on the floor (on a stand) next to him while sitting at the desk, that Qi charger would be an actually useful feature.
Steve and Roman should bring an product out together.
Not gonna lie, I watched the whole thing just for a casual banter with Der8auer.
I Love Der8auer! Thank you for talking to him. I'm German on my dad's side. I watch him and you since I stopped watching Linus tech tips. I wish I could have gone to that convention.
Greetings from Germany :)
In love with that Dark Base Pro 901 ... absolute beauty .. for all needs!
German Engineering 😎
I love the double 5 1/4" bay on my Dark Base Pro 900. It's a great spot for a triple 3.5" hot swap hard drive bay. Sad to see that feature go away, but I can understand that it's a very niche usecase...
I love that new BeQuiet! 901 case. I would love to see a build in this case….If I was to build a dream 4090 gaming pc that would be the case for it.
Gamer Nexus is literally the reason i had such a good tower for years i saw Benchmarks for the be quiet 900 rev 2 my pc never got to like 70 Temps always cool really great Chanel can only recommend him
Yeah!
I am als supre pleased to my 900 rev 2!
A lot of room. Several 5.25” slots for bluray, controller etc…
I like the 901 possible inverted layout, and i like the GPU support that also has the cable channel in it.
The connectors for the PWM and ARGB and toolless drive cages are a good touch.
Shadow 800 also seems nice.
Good thing they're updating their cases, they were really lagging behind.
What a plesant surprise!! usually you have to go to Hetzner to see Der8auer.
Love be quiet! The Pure Rock cooler and Pure Base 500 FX i got on their anniversary sale are absolutely stellar. Went from a blacked out build to more RGB to pair with my 3070 Aorus master and it looks amazing! Super excited to see these coming to market as they looks so good!
The reason why I am still using the case that I am is actually in large part *specifically* for the disk drive. I refuse to give it up, wherever possible I like to own my media outright and disks are probably the most reliable way of doing so and I still have a fairly large amount of 'legacy' games on disks. I don't use the drive every day or anything but it *does* get used and it is very important to me
Looks like you guys are going to have a ton of case reviewing work to do for the next months.
It's amazing how manufactures have massively improved the developement of new cases since last year, after some years stuck with same design solutions. Next year or two are going to be really interesting on this market.
It'd be nice if vertical mobo mounting was supported. IO on top is so convenient!
I own the current Dark Base 900 rev 2 and I really like it. Very well built and premium looking. I like the GPU cable shroud but not enough to buy a whole new case for it. Here's hoping they sell that independently to existing 900 owners.
The "sound damping foam" is more heat insulation than sound isolation on my Silent Base 800. Just Bitumen would likely be better than that for both keeping the case from rattling (which it does) and allowing heat to be emitted by the side-panels. The one shown for a few seconds in this video is a *lot* thinner, though, so it seems that they got rid of the heat insulating foam stuff?!
THANKS STEVE!
Two times as good as you???
He is GOODER? Urmah-GURD! That's a lot o' good...
I built my own case just for the CD player so I can listen to my music from the 70's. I had to do the same to my 2018 car and cut a large hole in the dash and installed a double din Am/Fm CD player. For the cost They should have 3-140's in the front and 1 in rear on the 900 series. I think all cases should come with filters and let you decide as like Lian Li has the filters but if you want you have to pay extra and never in stock.
Great new cases from a really good company, I have been slowly moving parts in my personal rig to Be Quiet! brand and might just go all in for the 901. I like 800's look better but to ditch the external DVD for an in case design again really sells me on the 901. Streaming is good but when the internet is down or the services don't have an older movie you want to watch the DVD unit really comes in handy. Let's not even talk about the spinning circle of overloaded network crap you get with most streaming services, even on cable modems. Great reviews Steve and Co.
I built my latest PC in a Dark Base Pro 900 literally only because of the 5 1/4 support. but its awesome, tons of room for a 4080/90 build. I'm running like 14 fans including 2x push pull rad setups, ,multiple old-school HDDs, and a Blu-ray drive. its the quietest case I've ever owned and temps stay icy cold.
I liked this video just for the Debaurer cameo
Love how Steve just trashes all the displays as he's going through hahaha! :D
The customer service from be quiet is the reason I use their stuff, it's amazing.
the good service is also the reason you have to pay at least 200 bucks to get a 10 year warranty
Genuinely quiet parts, 9/10 build quality or higher, thoughtful design, German company, good looking, good service, good websites/clarity of information/manuals. They do everything well? I can't really fault them for anything but cost. But even then you get what you pay for so it's a great deal in my opinion. My system has be quiet parts everywhere it can for this reason.
12:30 Best cameo segment I've ever seen.
Back to you Steve.
BQ is such an underrated brand. The build quality of all their products is absolutely top notch. I'm very happy with my BQ case and cooler, and my next build will probably have a BQ PSU.
They have pretty good build and material quality for their cases and some of their newer fans, but their PSUs arent that great. They charge as much as Corsair/Seasonic, but have worse electrical stats like ripple, load regulation, transients etc.
Underrated? Uhh... as far as I know, they are considered a higher tier brand.
And they do make nice cases in terms of quality as well as good PSUs. So "underrated" isn't quite the right word, I'd say.
I would be careful with their recent PSUs. The later P11, the P12, P13 and E11 are all more or less plagued with a loud rattling/growling fan even at minimum load, to the point where you can hear them from several meters away. It's possible that not every unit is affected but the frequency of noise complaints has gone way up.
@@cl4ster17 Folk should buy only the products a company is strong in and makes, or at least designs, in-house. So many times the problem is the OEM something has been farmed to.
I know it's ridiculous but I wish companies would make more modern and sleek cases with support for optical media drives, I still use disks enough that it's a deal breaker if my only option is to run a USB disk drive taking up a USB port 24/7
Finally the crossover we needed.
Also I'm digging that new Darkbase Pro with its drive bay at the bottom.
Could really make me go back to ATX for AM5.
I have a Pure Base 500DX and it's like the Noctua of cases: not flashy, but very efficient and functional: the case is a high airflow design (yet quiet!) with all the routing options you could ask for, enough space for 4000 series cards, and the thermals you want (cool, so quiet case/CPU/GPU fans). Put some Silent Wings 4 140mm fans inside (move lots of air at low RPM, basically silent even at full gaming/productivity load) and it's very quiet. The loudest part of my PC was the HDD which I moved to an external enclosure for mass storage, the rest is NVME or SATA SSDs. My next case will be Be Quiet, 100%. Like Noctua, they've set a high standard for performance.
I swear I was not paid to write this, but I think a lot of people overlook how important a good case is: but if you do any gaming or productivity work, the last thing you want is system fans sounding like a jet engine. Some cases have barely ANY airflow which means fans have to work insanely hard to generate any airflow, but that can be remedied with a good airflow design (like the DX, or a torrent, lian li airflow cases, etc.)
Good case design means good airflow, better case temps, and quieter gaming/app usage. The difference between a well made case makes such a huge difference in a build, both for thermals and adding/routing components cleanly, and Be Quiet has done a solid job with their designs. Highly recommended!
The one 5.25'' drive slot is perfect! We don't need 2 or 3 or 4 as there used to be, we only need the option for one.
I miss cases with 5.25" bays...so much so, I ended up picking up the old but venerable Antec Nine Hundred....but to use as a NAS box (with 5-in-3 hotswap modules)
(still hoping more case manufacturers would make a good NAS-friendly cases, perhaps something that supports either a tool-less hot-swap or can use Supermicro drive sleds)
4:38 Daaaamn, just one more USB-C connector and this would be the perfect case. But the fact that they've retained the wireless charger from the DBP 900 is wonderful enough to the point where I'm willing to forgive it. And the fact that it has 5.25" support still, even though it's just the one slot and it's on the bottom like Fractal's Pop (which can do two, despite being on the bargain basement by comparison), is a wonderful boon for those who do a little casual optical media preservation. Either way it's good to see that people are going to get their money's worth with front I/O that isn't totally abysmal compared to others in the same price range.
it's amazing all these ideas could have been popped out like 20 years ago, yet only now they come to mass production
Hahaha I was not expecting Steve to talk about LightScribe today, that really takes me back.
be quiet! definitely has my attention with a 5-1/4" drive bay though. I'm looking forward to the review of this case for sure.
I wish companies would stop shipping high-end cases with fans preinstalled from factory. It adds cost for almost no benefit to the customer, the vast majority of whom will have their own preference with the factory fans ending up on ebay or unused and wasted.
$300, even with inflation, is way way too much for those cases. $300 is Caselabs or god-tier watercooling support. Or extremely well designed cases that make Apple look like they are slumming it, design-wise. $300. Good lord. That was a midrange GPU in 2016.
a 8auer am Morgen vertreibt Kummer und Sorgen.
At the BeQuiet! booth and the video is sponsored by Phanteks, a competitor. I love it.
Was thinking Fractal North for next case but shadow base looking nice! Hard decisions to come!
aw man rip my light scribe dreams. Really cool to see Be Quiet coming back to a lot of the stuff I had liked before from them
12:34 that was a nice and funny interview, guys 🙃
Missed opportunity for Steve to have uwu heart eyes for Roman
Love my 801 and 802, 801 is full of hdd cages and fans as a file server and the 802 is my gaming rig. Both are amazing cases, so quiet og great quality with attention to detail.
I also have an interest in cases with drive bays, (glad you remembered to include it) I have an all in 1 Blu-Ray RW drive for both old old CD version of PC games that I have, and Blurays, since I use my PC for everything. It is hard to find a new modern case, that provides such a slot, along with having good air flow for air cooling, which has sufficient space for all my extra fans that I want to keep. Failing that I might have to get an external drive of some kind :(
Nice! I've been hoping to get a more airflow oriented case that had an inverted layout. Had to get my panels custom cut to get more airflow in mine.
13:07 need uncensored 10 hour version of der8auer's speech
at 3:54 when you pull the cover off, it looks like x2 mount for 3.1/5 inch drives
RE: 5.25" bays, I like my reservoir + flow indicator that slots into two 5.25" bays.
This 901 looks great, and this 5,25 bay is something that got my attention. Another attempt to reverse ATX, but flipping looks easy. I would love to build in that if I ever will be able to afford that. It most surely will be expensive.
OK, the Qi charger in the top of the case is sick. I already put my wireless charger on top of my case, it'd be cool to have it built in.
Ridiculous fun to watch when you making a mess! These videos on Computex floor is really interesting and I’m enjoying to watch all the new tech. Keep it up!
Now if only Jay was there, imagine the chaos
Steve goes to a case booth and tears through like a tornado. Sounds about right lol
Ha! I just just now had occasion to see the thumbnail for this. I love that it reads like you're telling Der8auer to be quiet.
So happy to see an updated 900. Been waiting for a large modern case with a drive bay.