Grandmasters And Toiletpaper... | Is It IMBA Or Do I Suck
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Now that I look at it this closely, the 5 rax was probably not worth it in the end. I just had better success with it than 3 rax into 3rd, so I just auto pilot towards that build on ladder. Also props to Enigma, was a sick game.
From now on I'll make sure that I always have enough of the most important thing in life: toilet paper! Brings back some memories of 2020...
Thanks for the great submission. GG.
Don't forget that you still need to wash your hands even after using toilet paper. Unless you are from Italy - there you can combine (but according to Harstem you're not).
You don't suck. You're probably like diamond level which is pretty good. The 2 biggest areas of improvement are a more streamlined build order and better unit control. For the former, you built too many buildings so at the 5 minute mark, you didn't have an army to attack with. You shouldn't have built the armory and 2 of the barracks. For the latter, you need to stutter step better and don't throw away units like the raven.
@@morninglift1253 5500 mmr is grand master
@@morninglift1253 This is a 100 times better than diamond level.
Only the Captain can make a Grandmaster player look like a baboon
Wait, this guy can't be a grandmaster.
@@Starky_3D "The skill gap between a 5.5k GM and a 6.5K GM is as much as a silver player and a masters player. " ??? Silver is below 2.4k MMR. Masters is already above 4k MMR? Math doesn't add up. And there's no chance a silver player would get a single game out of a masters player in like 100 games, let alone 10.
@@___SourR34___ that's because the ladder is like a pyramid. It's not linear. Pros play in grandmaster so you're going to bump into people wayyy better than you. Also the less people there are in a skill tier, the more likely you are to bump into the same better player a lot. That's how it becomes way harder. Down in the metal tiers, there's so many players there's a lot of people better than you, but also a lot of players way worse. That's just how mmr games work
@@___SourR34___ That is literally his entire point - the skill gap between players based on MMR is not linear as MMR scales to very high levels!
@@Starky_3D thats not accurate, silver to masters is 2.3k MMR, 5.5k to 6.5k is 1k MMR. And like S C said, a 5.5k player can beat a 6.5k player if given 100 games, a silver player will never beat a masters in a million games. 5.5k to 6.5k is the difference between low diamond and low masters though.
Hamster please prank harstem by using one of his old games and making up a complaint form then revealing to him that he himself, sucks :p
Harstem would recognize that, Hamster already tried.
@@mothrahlurker788 did he? I must have missed that
@@mothrahlurker788 in which episode?
@@mothrahlurker788 where?
@@mothrahlurker788 where
Fun theory:
Diamond players send their replays and complain forms to finally prove Captain that IMBA exists.
Grandmasters send their replays and complain forms (where they pretend to complain) to find out where they messed up and improve their game.
Masters probably somewhere inbetween)))
Based, seeing him loose 3 ghosts was painful though 21:38
Bro whoever the editor is needs a raise
Did harstem and his editor have a fight or something? He disappeared for awhile and then came back..
And you know it's the same editor because the timing. The timing.
@@Anderent13 It's called taking a vacation XD
@@mr.rabbit5642 oh that makes sense, you probably know what his editor had for breakfast than.. if you think everyone should be counting the days for harstems editors vacation. Maybe you should take one.
@@Anderent13 dude, I have no idea I don't even notice the 'editor change' as I assume it's just experimenting with different styles and features.
Its just more natural to assume he just had things to do or time to take off, rather than that they had a fight.
Also yeah, it was probably pancakes.
The way you say "Two two push" is incredibly satisfying.
The image of Julius Cesar Canon Rushing Cleopatra is like a million bucks 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Great background info... I mean, what more could you ask for?
The feedback from Harstem is just amazing. What a great analysis. Top notch.
Thank you.
Best regards.
Happy Easter!
The 'denying the pastry' analogy had me rolling
The Cleopatra bit was *chef kiss*. GG, Hamster.
*blushes*
"I'm sorry my friend, you suck.
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Looking forward to playing you again on the ladder."
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got DAMN, Harstem is ruthless with his sick burns.
Destroying a 4th isn't that big of a deal when you are on 2.....
There is a huge difference between killing a 4th mineral line saturated with workers and canceling a 4th while still sitting on 2-base. You're kind of forgetting that your opponent has a 3rd saturated mineral line outmining you.
editor you get mvp status for making that cleopatra meme at 3:20. Completely golden
The restaurant analogy made me laugh way harder than it probably should have. Well done.
27:18 Harstem's laugh is fantastic and contagious 😂😂😂
I for one do judge people trying to starve others :/
lol this was interesting to watch given that they're very high rank and that harstem knows them!
I'm guessing Enigma just built colossi because they are easier to control. To be fair about building into the Raven, what basically doesn't counter the colossi? Anything other than tier 1 units basically roll over colossi anyway.
Hey tbf losing the Raven for free probally was a secretly super good. If the Raven did its job then most likely he protos would be like oh crap and run away. Losing the Raven made the fight seem better than it really was.
Like ha my opponent just lost a Raven for free I can win this fight
35 seconds in atm, he read "a little stalker harass", bet he lost his entire advantage during that. Just a prediction.
The editing of this, my God it's so good. The perfect graphics that pop up during harstems rants. Mmmm perfection
Hamster really is the MVP in this series. ^_^
love the comment section from gold players. rofl.
Good game by the Terran. I think Narra lacked the concentration to put a big army together and take correct engagements in the late game. But he entered the late game ahead.
the lack of ghosts was the deal breaker
@@mh1593 tbh considering how he uses them it would have been useless xd
6:32 just happen to be watching this exactly at midnight on April 25.....soo HeroMarine should be breaking Kevin's front door to bap him any minute now XD
HI HAMSTER!
You're a content MACHINE!
lol the majority of this guy’s comments are just talking about Hamster, or, in one of them, Gerbil.
@@ZerglingLover I know who the real star of the show is
also how the fugg do you know that? is there a way to see peoples comment history or did you actually remember my name and comment style???
@@dabdoc3885 yeah you can see comments, at least on mobile. just tap on a profile picture and it’ll bring up your banner, subscriber count and past comments.
@@ZerglingLover Oh weird. I took a look for comment history on Desktop before I replied and counldnt find anything. Youd think desktop would have more features than mobile lol
Harstem the farseer ! He foresaw the lack of PF on the fifth would cost terran the game!
3:45 to 3:50 , we got burned 🔥 HARD 🤣. The Captian took all us out back with that one. I mentioned B4 this is a high level no B.S. imba complaint and then they come in with the sick editing amd Harstem on point beyond on point. Some of the Best content ever !
This made Terrian look imba more than toss, the ghosts are OP
This wasn't even a ghost mvp game. It showed the secret OP of marauders.
@@nfzeta128 that's only because it was up against colossi and stalkers consistently
@@HellecticMojo Marauders also shred zealots, immortals, disruptors.
Between the kind of unit they are and being a heavy unit shredder but with high dps and a slow marauders are like a loophole to normal balance between units.
@@nfzeta128 disruptors and immortals shred marauders in kind. Marauders are not the unit the protoss should be fearing. Mass marauders are more of a blessing in disguise because it just means there's less marines to shred through everything.
@@HellecticMojo Disruptors and immortals are both multiple times more unreliable than marauders though.
Disruptors for obvious reasons but immortals because of the mobility and dps difference. Also no slow with which to slow the already slow unit.
The less marine thing while not sacrificing that much dps is also another plus.
3:22 I was lolling so hard "Record of IEM Alexandria"
11:49 He was supplyblocked from 8:00 to 8:47 in game time lol, truly a flawless execution, it was the imba toss and not anything else
i always thought how the hell toss fares with terran when ghosts already on the field,3 ghosts are enough to emp entire army to the ground yet terran never talk about this?its like when ghosts are built it's the end spell to toss
Even the toss didn't know how he won!! 💀
Actually no. The "idk" answer is like "I don't actually care how you lost, I just care about my game"
@@mihairo83 nah harstem explained the 'Idk' perfectly well. Toss was leagues ahead of that kid xdd
@@vick7848 I said exactly the same thing. So, actually, idk what you're trying to say. GLHF
@@mihairo83 no you said something else. You're wrong
@@vick7848 ok.
18:21 The perfect cut on the split screen is sick. 👌
Terran will typically be up in supply, because units currently being produced in a building add to the total. You cannot use the supply yet. Protoss warps in their units all at once and the supplies are pretty much even after each warp in.
Even before watching, you know its never IMBA. So its funny that at least he was recognized as "pretty good" and, as I will find out, also sucks.
When you see narra on the ladder can you pls play mass archon and archon drops
Wooow, this is the greatest game ever covered on inmba or suK
Damn! Now I need to watch the game between xBigJulesx and QueenCleo69. I hate this channel XD
Bruhhhh, so I am commenting in real time. That split screen tho..... duuude the coverage just hit different.
When the text went over the image box i went into a rage
The more iiodis i watch, the more i'm convinced that Terran is the imba race in sc2. Which might be a reason why i'm playing Terran currently lol
Harstem can put out so many emotions with his squints
Your analogies were great this episode
How does the captain keep coming up with these elaborate analogies on the fly? Does he have a fixed repertoire and gradually adds to it ? Now I have to watch the entire series to find out.
If you delay your CC by 40s, doesn't this not just cost workers but also delay your Orbital Command by 40s? That's like 160ish minerals down the drain! Not sure how many workers that's worth in the early game, maybe 2.5?
Imo that's a bigger deal than the oversaturation.
LUL gg's!
@Harstem I absolutely LOVED your analysis of the double vs single gas opener, it made a lot of sense to someone who doesn't really play anymore and helped me really understand the trade offs. That being said, as soon as we saw the double batteries I would have loved to know who is ahead. Because it seems that double batteries instantly shut down the 2 gas opener so the reapers werent' able to get the 6 probes of damage they needed. But also those minerals spent on batteries obviously set back the toss player as well in their build order.
So who came out on top of this exchange? I would assume that because literally 0 pro players open with double batteries into this opener that I've seen that this is a slight over reaction made to help deal with the fact that the toss player wasn't comfortable with their micro skills to hold of the aggression of the terran. Does this mean the Terran actually came out ahead mathmatically despite the fact he was unable to kill any workers? Just curious, thanks!
Should've been called "idk, Rituals soap and SandCookie" :p
Wowza! Your starvation joke (not judging) was the absolute most hilarious joke I've heard in a long time. Laughed so hard my cat nearly took me in for a conniption fit. Nicely done sir. 👍
Thanks Hamster for keeping Harstem honest, he's developing memory problems at his old age :P
♥sure you will starve him with that biscuit denial! 😀
Gotta admit , your editor is amazing, Harstem
noob question here: I tend to use ravens and their anti armor missiles instead of ghost's EMPs: is it a mistake? are EMPs superior to AAMs? or maybe it depends on some factors (that I'm not even aware of)? thx!
Anti armor is against armor so upgrades and emp is against shield
EMPs are better because they actively remove HP from Protoss rather than implicitly remove HP by lowering their defense. It also removes energy which are key to fighting a lot of terran bio. No storm, no guardian shield, dead Archons.
I mean, why not just have both?
@@HellecticMojo I'm too lame to control too many unit types effectively ;-] thx for the explanation! :)
@@alexkruger5234 thx!
@@morgwai667 both are incredibly good and if you do actually control ravens i think they are better although I haven’t done the numbers at least with a high marine count because you essentially get +2 attack when you use it
Generally speaking protos units are 1/3 sheild although you won’t hit every unit with an emp. But ravens can be also disable high tech unit. And can harrass outside of the fight.
Also just the fact your ravens stand out more make them harder to lose
Although against a high archon count ghosts easily better.
i can not stop watching your videos
@Harstem
Could you tell me your audio settings please? I'm getting desperate for the sound like yours.
SM7B, that one is visible. How about pre-amp? Audio-Interface? EQ Settings? Compressor Settings?
Hamster, do you know his stuff? Could you help please?
I think this episode more showed how strong terran are than how broken protoss must be :)
If it wasn't for terran imba, your mass marauder, which protoss can't counter very well, would not have done so much damage and this would have been a much faster loss.
"Holy crap, terran units are good!" Facts X3.
Immortals are pretty good vs Marauders :)
Immortals disruptors zealots ext
Its literal just the closs which is a big part of the protos army which is why your saying this so it feels like they are op cause like they are countering your ace.
@@Name-ru1kt you cant reason with this guy man, He's a 2500 who comments about balance all day. Somehow he doesn't see the irony of calling imbalance while watching a video about how even 5.5k GMs look silly talking about imbalance and he's 2500 lol
@@tambaz2276 I havn’t complained about imba once other than zerg being the only race not having two forms of mobile detection. Which is super dumb you have to agree.
so the ghosts are toilet paper... does that mean the protoss shields... is basically poop?
Bringing new meaning to Archon Toilet
HAM-STAR , am I right lol
Not even 4 minutes in and I already am amused as hell. Thanks captain o7
I came here for Starcraft... I'm staying for the analogies...
Hamster editing my god
"If you don't have toilet paper, your hands are gonna smell"
What did he mean by this?
Shhhh!! Please... just... just... stop. Don't think about it XD
It means that, without ghost, all you have is a tone crap of MM units.
And, there is also another picture you don't have to think about 🤣
Has anyone counted which race has the most Imba complaints?
I agree that most terran players don't know what they are doing. They have imba units so they aren't forced to have tight strategies. Top zergs - manage viper infestor at the same time, while manually targetting healing, and sometimes doing nydus. They also have to manually target biles while doing all this. Spreading creep and doing injects. Top terran - I can do drops and stutter step! XD.
No the reason why terran don’t have a great idea of what they are doing is because they can counter just about every tech with the same units
Only against another terran do they really have to change it up and actually respond to what their opponent is doing.
If a race however was truly imba by a good margin then no other race would ever win a single tournament but zerg has won the most. If all of the players simply sucked then other players like reynor would switch and main terran.
While we are on the subject of zergs though. I do find it a little imba that they are the single race that does not get two different forms of mobile detection
@@Name-ru1kt Zerg has the same number of detectors as Protoss, 3. Overseer/Observer, Spore/Cannon, and fungal growth from Infestors/revelation from Oracles.
@@the_rabidsquirel wait infestors fungal reveals cloaked? I never knew that till now. Though its much smaller.
Also I forgot terran has ghost emp which means they have 3. But thanks a lot
@@Name-ru1kt According to liquipedia, Terran has 5 technically. Turret, Raven, scans from an Orbital, EMP from ghosts (only cloaked, not burrowed), and interference matrix from Ravens. I doubt that last one ever really comes into play though, I had no idea about it before looking it up.
24:57 DRG moment! We are rich!
small tip:
Never ever put a red line on the bottom of your video thumbnail. Why?
RUclips marks watched videos with a red line at the bottom. Users see your thumbnail and think they already watched the video.
Even if a small percentage of people confuse it... it is bad for your views.
hamster youre a great editor
Hilarious conlusion :D
Magnificent intro.
wow
Enigma: idk (means I don't kare)
I wonder whether he'll give you your suck stamp back the next time he manages to beat you on the ladder?
I think it is
8.30 zerg usually maxed they got less than 120 sup
Love high level IODIS, just love it
IODIS best show on RUclips
I htought Narra was going to rotate around nad attack the other bases which would of kept pressure and thus made sense, but he retreated... when having a military advantage... is nonsensical.. only when your opponent pushes you this gives you exploitation timing for macro'ing if your behind and your army is larger, you can bully map control and take and defend and get infrastructure needs, exchanging military units for time nad income... to build more later...
I kinda want to get back to the game since I watch your videos, but is there a point if the racxist french general chat isn't there anymore ?
macro bad, micro bad, build bad, timings are off, upgrades make no sense, have no tech... still marine marauder on stim almost wins the game against colossus. And if it can't, you automatically win after making your first ghost. If anything this shows Terran is the imba race.
lol wot? macro bad, micro bad? what rank are you?
if the toss plays this correctly he doesn't lose the two collosi gets charge prism 3rd collosi and wins the game?
that's why the 5 rax sucks, because it's barely harder to hold initially but if you push it back the game pretty much ends because there can be no follow.
@@grimmingpitb461 Harstems point was the it's not harder to hold initially, only at later point when it comes into play it has more units and then falls off. But the first push has the same amount of units.
@@grimmingpitb461 hard stem does mention that narra is late with alot of stuff compared to what it is on the high lvl
@@Nobody_1. the whole point of hamsters unit tally it to show how few units it actually adds, but of course it's still adding units, just not many which is why it's *barely* harder initially.
But my pastry
Oh shiii
Bit too harsh captain
First time watching IODIS? That's kind of the point of the video haha. It's kind of like light roasting.
The submitters know they're going to get grilled a bit more than normal. He gave him some props too so it wasn't too bad 😅
Hamster face reveal, when?
Nara is not NaDa (nothing in spanish), just saying :D
LMAO around 14:30 this is the fight that he said he would have won the game with except for the super battery, the guys got massive investmen into infrastructure and is saturated on 3 base and your push is out of steam, the super battery wasn't a factor at all. After everything that happened so far I can't believe he's a gm and thinks he is miles ahead even after watching the replay
It seems to be a recurring theme that, even of the people who watch the replay, they miss that their opponent is mining noticeably more than them. Makes sense though. If someone was convincingly macroing and microing better than their opponent and still lost, we might actually see Harstem diagnose something to be IMBA.
Of course the super battery mattered a lot, which is why Harstem said to not fight in the super battery. I don't get why low rank players like you say this kinda stuff and say shit like "I can't believe he's a GM", if you have so little game knowledge.
@@mothrahlurker788 The "not GM" jab was at misreading the replay, not for any mistakes in the game.
I agree with that jab. I don't think any GM misreads a replay enough to believe a whole other race is IMBA. It's for content and I'm okay with that.
Before even seeing the rest of the complaint,
I theorize that this is a complaint from an NA terran player.
i was wrong!
this replay proofs that terran is imba xD
Terran IMBA
wrr
not first. or am i? guess you'll never know.
Day 1 of Asking Harstem to collaborate with Lil_Probius
Are you his dad or what?
He already did. ruclips.net/video/3dC9tXwvK5I/видео.html&ab_channel=Harstem
These intros are so good
Its almost sad to watch a terran end up in GM........ and move like a snail..... 😆 its frustrating