Tesla Model Y Berlin vs. China - Still different?
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Lets compare the new Long Range Model Y made in Giga Berlin with the Shanghai built version. What has changed? Is the ride quality better? Does it match the Performance version?
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I have a Berlin Y 2024 with BYD blade batteries. So happy with charging speed and so quiet compared to M3. But our Model S cars from 2014 and 2015 are also very quiet.
Nice! 👍
I'm not a Tesla owner (I have a Volvo C40 Twin Ultimate), but I found this video really insightful. People are pestering China-made products, turns out, this is based on bias. Your video proves it.
Thanks for the great work. I hope you'll get more audience and subscribers, given the quality of your videos on Evs, you deserve it 🙂
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for your kind words. 🙂 The channel is growing, but it takes a lot of time and effort. Spread the word and let people know.
I would say assembly location is iess important than engineering, as long as you control the supply chain and have vertical integration.
@@OlavAlexanderMjelde Agreed 🙌🏼
Tesla is ok, but Chinese cars are going nuts.
You just have to understand this. China have done panel for trillions in one decade. And they have run manufacturing for over 50 years. In past they have done so many errors and is where they've learn to fix it to make it right and better. Chinese manufacturer experiences and plus many Chinese talented in physics and maths can resolves the problems faster. They learn fast. And today they are proven they work above and beyond.
US made 2023 tesla model Y here. misaligned panels and gaps everywhere. uncomfortable suspension and lots of rattles as well at only 4k miles.
😔so it's still a problem.. sad to hear!
Thanks again for your love for details and thx for organizing both cars! Any chance you will do a vision only park assist re-test soon? 😊
Not planned for a retest yet. Haven't seen enough progress on the Tesla vision.
Regarding noise level, the Hankooks doesn't seem to be the quietest tire on the market.
Yes, I agree. I have tried different setups but never a really silent setup.
I wanted the two LFP MODEL Y compared. China MODEL Y RWD has CATL while Brandenburg has BYD Blade battery.
Me too. I'm looking for that kind of setup. But not easy to find.
But you can expect the same interior and exterior differences as for the long range.
Yes, that would be interesting.
The BYD LFP in MiG Y SR is better than the CATL LFP in MiC Y SR. BYD charges faster (3C), charge curve is above the CATL. And it charges with 3C at any SoC you plug it in. 174kw at 10% or plugging in at 70%. Holds that for around 20%. 9-100% in 31 min on a V2 charger (logged that in my car). The SR uses 3kWh/100km less than the LR (had both cars). Y SR MiG is a clear winner and on long travels is the same as a LR.
@@t.d.5804how can you see which battery the car has? I am going to pick up a SR Model Y next Tuesday and since it is a leased vehicle I don't know the VIN yet.
@@meeder78 you need the vin to tell where its made. XP7 is MiG. The only other current option to make sure its made in Germany is to order the 2 new colors which currently come only from germany, midnight cherry red and quicksilver. Custom order, or from the inventory ? Inventory cars show their vin on the website, see the url on the details page.
What's your experience about the differences? Have you taken a delivery of a newly produced Model Y from Giga Shanghai, any changes?
*Elon Musk said himself earlier this year the Chinese Plant can do it faster and better (less quality issues) that is why he is promoting the head of China plan to manage the global operation - in hope the Berlin plant and the US plant can do the same.*
Great reveiw, now how about Fremont built model Y verses Giga Shanghai? Here in Canada Tesla just switched about 2 months ago to all Chinese built Model Y's. I purchased mine just before the transition. I have a longer range and faster charging 82KW Panasonic 2170s verses 78KW LG supplied China delivered Model Y's. Aside from that my Fremont built has all the soft fabric and not one issue with panel gaps or interior fit and finish issues. I could not be more pleased! Not sure how the Giga Shanghai cars are, I'll see if I can find a recently delivered Model Y AWD long range and do that comparison!
Hard to compare. In Europe we don't have any Freemomt Ys. But it's clear that you really timed it right. Congratulations 👏
Not quite! There is a RUclipsr posted Why He Sold his Tesla Model Y (Came out from Austin Plant) he sold it in 3 weeks and the Fitting Quality was Poor.
And what was the Cost to have paid for the Model Y USA Made and Shanghai Made.
Also below
ruclips.net/video/dQxm6n7SdvE/видео.htmlsi=fbBgMGxD1Z7FeNZ8
Perhaps from Canada, you have seen the Link? The Owner Voice there; he paid for more than 110k CAD$ on his Blue Tesla Model Y and caught fire after 6 months owning; here in town, Edmonton, a fellow has two Teslas, is selling the Blue Model Y Performance!!
A New MSRP Model Y (Shanghai) Dual Motor Performance listed at $80K CAD; How much a Used 2021 T model Y, Dual Motor, Performance Freemont or not Freemont worth?
Last year in October, those Dealer asked for Model 3 Y Dual Motor 90k CAD$... Would I be that Smart to buy any? Had I bought a Lexus Hybrid 550 SUV then in 2020; by now after more than 2 years Driving = Used or New a few available during the Pandemics, I could ask for more now! And the Lexus SUV 550h could land me any where from Yukon, Alaska Highway to Ontario.
Cheers,
Elon after visiting giga Shanghai said that their build quality was best 🤷♂️
We come to the conclusion that the Chinese do better, and the Germans just produce an updated version.
Yes, thats one way to see it. :)
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@@blue_ig1 I can sense painful jealousy (and maybe despair?) in your comment.
But why so sad?? All this talk of Chinese cars invading Europe is premature.
If the US and Europe can't compete, they will simply put up barriers for Chinese cars.
The US already has and Europe is talking about it.
@@ChinaSongsCollection jealousy lmfao? Why tf should I care, just go see other Chinese brands, not Chinese made cars, see how bad they are
Great reviews. Just one thing, I wish you had lifted the cars and shown us the comparison between suspensions.
Thanks! Yes, that would have been a good activity.
Great video! Thanks.
Taking delivery of my model Y QS coming Wednesday so will keep an eye on the built quality from Berlin 👍🏽😊
Nice! Dont get me wrong. The build quality is not bad in Tesla terms. My MYP from Berlin is the best built Tesla I have had and much better then my previous Teslas from USA (Model S and Model 3).
Thanks for the video. I’m looking to buy an electric car and tried a Model Y last week; not sure if the one I tried was from Germany or China but the poor quality of the seats and the many issues I could see from poor assembly convinced me to not buy a Tesla. I’m waiting now the upcoming launch of the Volvo EX90 and the Polestar 3…
EX90 is a lot bigger and more expensive. Hopefully volvo will manage the software issues to be able to start delivering time enough. I prefer the P3 in that case. Have you looked at Nio ES6 or XPENG G6? BMW IX could also be an alternative.
Thanks for your suggestions, they both look great. I would be looking at a little bit bigger, like the Nio ES8 or the Xpeng G9… but unfortunately I don’t think they are available in Canada. Volvo has a special event in Montreal on Friday so I will be able to see the EX90 which is supposed to launch mid 2024
@@ItsOnlyElectric
Note that:
Prior to Spring 2023; all Teslas all Models imported to 🍁 🍁 were from USA; then, 2023, the New Batch of China Made Model 3 and Y came to Canada.
Last year, in October 2022 a Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor, because we needed them in Edmonton = Asking price more than 90k CAD (Canadian Dollars) And A Model Y which was way over 100k and no Brand New could be ordered.
Now at this moment, a Tesla Model Y Performance which is MSRP at 80k CAD$. And those Owners Model Y who bought them in 2021 Paid for over 110k CAD$... We/I saw some listed privately? I wondered: if a New One China Made is 80k CAD vs a Used one USA Made (some are very poor finished panels gaps etc.) ? Would it be $65k should someone buy? And Dashboard Alberta Grids or Texas Grids shown of 15% Electric Powers Generated from Coals and 65-67% from Natural Gas = a total of 80-82% from Fossils is worth?
While as my small ICE All wheel Drive that gave me Trekking the Road winter Cold - 40°C in 2 weeks of January and 10 days of February...?
In this City and this Province, if your Drive fast in the Winter or faster than 110Km in the Summer, RCMP Polices will ticket you up to 250-1000 CAD$ for Repeating Offenders = so any Fast Direct Drive Car is no good for here....
In fact last month, July under only Rain a Tesla Model 3 Spined out of Control and all people inside the Tesla gone to "6 Feet Below"
Regards.
@@guypomerleau6215 Volvo EX90 would be slated to be built in [Volvo's Charleston, South Carolina plant. ] You should be aware that some Americans live in California bought the New Model Y coming out from Austin ─ the Quality of Fitting are like the ones from Berlin that this Author of "It is Only Electric" compare between Shanghai and Berlin.
The Cars are assembled by Human Being ─ they need to be trained and to be acquainted with new Environment and New Skill-sets developed. That was the Reason = Cars/ Vehicles Made in Japan of Toyoda or Honda or Subaru always had better Quality. After having driven 30 years of a Subaru Made in Japan; I would never pay for any Cars made outside Japan. I could buy a used Made in Japan and Right-hand Steering... But I will never have to worry about the Quality QA/QC
Regards,
From Edmonton AB.
According to Tesla employees / sellers, Chinese built cars had better quality than Germain built. Less small defects. No reason to expect that if Tesla car is build in Germany then it is automatically better than the one built in China. Cheap plastic vs cheap fabric - hard to say what is better. At least it is easier to clean plastic. All this small changes is production cost optimization for Tesla than anything else. At the end of the day it doesnt matter much if the car comes from China or Germany. Both of them will come without parking sensors)
Quicksilver looks sweet. We are stuck with white in the UK
The German quicksilver makes the Tesla look stylish in a classic way. I'd go for that.
Agree, and it looks better IRL
You didn't mention if both have Hardware 3 or 4 or different. I do like the lighter silver grey.
Good point. Hw3 on both.
The Y doesn't have hw4 in China and Berlin (yet)
Only HW for US built Model Y’s
But HW3 has more RAM and more storage
Only benefit of HW4 is 5MP camera’s
During the jump cut at :44 seconds, the blur of the license plate allows it to be viewed. Might want to fix that if you are worried about people seeing it.
Thanks for noticing.
The windshield wipers is also different. They have different sprinkler output.
They used to be different, but not anymore. Recent model Y from China has same updated spray nozzles and heated wiper area. Also, new model Y from China has double pane side windows front and back.
@alexlustneim820 double paned windows front and back has always been a part of the Chinese built, since the start of the model y.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Is there a benefit to double paned windows? I assume reduced noise, but you demonstrate they're both the same..
@afegargergegerg doesn't seem to make a huge difference. Guess the noise cones from other things like wheel arches, a-pillars etc.
Damn it, China's production and assembly processes are even better than Germany's
Was there any difference in the parcel shelves itself? Eg.: folding mechanism, thickness.... thx!
Don't know. Only had the shelf for the Berlin car. Bith owners seems to drive without shelf's normally.
Great video, thanks! I wonder how are the differences in ride quality (suspension and noise) compared with your Performance? I am chosing between a LR or P.
I have a performance from Berlin, and I'm happy with that and wouldn't change it for a long range.
Indeed, same
Thank you very much for this great video and comparison!!!! I bought a Tesla Y 2 weeks ago, I will pick it up next Saturday and apparently according vin number it comes from Germany. Happy to hear that seats and suspension are better on German one but a little bit disappointed by the thinner glass and missing sealing in the truck. Just money saving but happy to see that car still silent. I immediately subscribes to your channel and I gonna watch all the other video about Tesla now. Thanks a lot !!! Greetings from France. Cedric
No problem. Glad you enjoyed it!.👍 Greetings from Sweden
Great review - is the rear door glass acoustic as well? I'm in Canada and we get Model Y from Giga Shanghai and all doors have acoustic glass as opposed to Fremont built cars, that only have acoustic glass in the front doors. Giga Shanghai built cars are generally better built compared to Fremont.
Yes all doors acoustic 👍
Thanks for great video. One like from my side.
I am about to buy LR - Germany version, I have two queries.
1. I wanted to know the best time to purchase (Sept or Oct or Nov or Dec) currently they are offering low interest rate (1.99 %).
2. Is the cabin noise is bearable ? Do we get to use to of it?
Please suggest.
The noise level is not awful and absolutely bearable.
Best period is to buy and get delivery close to the end of a quarter. At least in a financial aspect the Tesla tends to offer discounts and low interest rates. But with Tesla you never now, there's no perfect time for buying one, it's like hitting a moving target. 🙂
Thanks for watching!
I have the MYP from Giga Shanghai. I agree that I have the same feeling of less back support from the driver side seat.
If only the Seat (Cushion) not the Quality of Suspension = An upgrade of 500 Custom Made Locally they would add more Foam/Coils/Springs to the Seat by Re-upholstering ... I am afraid the Suspension would be more Problematical. About Painting Quality, Germany has been known for Luxurious High Quality Painting. If the Germany Version is looked nicer; that is not a reason why Paint Tinted look and surface Quality; I have watched a Video by a Journalist who own a German Tesla Model Y and other with Model 3 Germany Plant ─ They always mentioned about the Paint quality in Teslas Germany Made.
Now Mr. "ItsOnlyElectric" said about the Fitting; what I have seen yesterday on the Model Y Performance Dual Motor Blue color with no Shining Coat; I have no comment on that but the Panels Fitting of this Freemont Model Y is Poor,,, Sorry but worse than A Subaru Legacy 1992 or Honda Accord EX-R 1992 that cost only 22k CAD$
Cheers,
Great input 👍
@@ItsOnlyElectric
Perhaps it is Green and /or C02 Emissions Reduction in your Country driving a Tesla or BEV... Not in Texas and California.
At this Moment Local Time:
Texas state burn this much Coals to Fire up Electric Powers needed for the Grids.
When the ☀ set the sky is red
people go, in flocks, to bed
And Tessie still awake grasping powers
otherwise Teslas have empty 🔋 powers.
[Last Updated: Aug 28, 2023 20:09 CT
Current Generation:
Solar 11 MW (0.0%) 12,636 MW21,162 MW
Wind 3,903 MW (5.7%) 10,427 MW38,695 MW
Hydro236 MW(0.3%) 478 MW600 MW
Power Storage933 MW (1.4%) 447 MW4,795 MW
Other105 MW (0.2%) 163 MW113 MW
Natural Gas47,487 MW (69.7%) 53,446 MW 69,890 MW
Coal and Lignite10,511 MW (15.4%) 13,568 MW 14,321 MW
Nuclear 4,931 MW (7.2%) 4,973 MW5,448 MW ]
Instead of at night the Grids would only feed the need to cool Americans' homes; they have to burn Coals to make up for 15.4% and up to 17% of all Electricity Needed in TX State!!
And
You might want to read this Article by DW about how Green is BEV.
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Electric vehicle tires: a lesser-known pollution headache
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As EV sales have soared, the tire industry has innovated its products to fit the needs of the relatively heavy, efficient and silent cars. But there is one problem the industry is struggling to crack.
Direct Drive Cars/Shafts are the causes of Small Particles of the Tires (Petro byproducts) spined off the Tires and Roads.
Regards,
Did you do the noise testing with or without the parcel shelve
Without on both.
This is test including noise with 19" and parcel shelf. A performance and different tires. But 1dB more silent in all speeds.
ruclips.net/video/FURPLcSCQ5U/видео.htmlsi=l6SBwL3pZyz29RH4
Thank you for doing this. I have a MiC Model Y SR on the way. Not sure if I should cancel it based on this info…
It's not a bad car. But there's is difference s.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Tesla advicer told me they would be 100% identical so I will dig into it. At least then I can refuse delivery.
@tafl-9198 I believe it when I see it. :)
Thanks for the Information from Germany 🇩🇪👍😁
Thank you for watching. Greetings from Sweden
As far as I'm aware all RHD cars still come only from Shanghai (like my own MYLR) so we don't have any choice yet.
There is German built SR. If you order a quicksilver or cherry red you will for sure get a German build.
If you don't live in UK or Canada.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Your reply doesn't make sense?? I stated that RHD (as in UK, Australia, NZ, India etc) ONLY come from Shanghai at present- has this changed??
@@Warekiwi yes, for those countries that's true. For Europe it's from Germany and sometimes from china. I assumed you where from Europe.
Bro...every summer our parents drove us 3 kids about 800 km in an Opel Kadett Caravan. Everything else is like driving on clouds for me now. 😉
😂
Yes we can relate to that
Are the berlin cars being shipped with hw4, as off 2024?
Not sure, charging all the time. But last I checked (couple of weeks ago) they were still shipped with HW3.
Great video again. Level of detail to compare them in the same way, using the same tire pressure. Thanks
Thanks 🙏
Do we have a choice in the UK which one to choose. I thought we don't get a choice
No, think UK only gets Shanghai cars.
I like the quicksilver also
Is there any differences in software between both cars
No. It's the same.
Here in the UK we can only buy RHD Tesla vehicles from China. I have a China made Model Y. It's great - better than any ICE vehicle I've owned before. It's a shame we can't get the midnight cherry red and quicksilver in the UK. I have a white one.
White is nice too. Have seen both Cherry red and quicksilver IRL. Two really nice colors!
All I really care is the battery. Are they the same between the two, if not which one is better meaning safer, more efficient and last longer. To me, I think the designs should be localized, and I am OK that they are different.
The batteries are the same. The RWD single motor versions have LPF batteries, which are safer and last longer. Considering that the RDW version weighs less, it is also more efficient.
Both running LFP, one from CATL and one from BYD
Berlin is now delivering RWD’s with CATL and BYD
Difference can be seen by VIN nr:
To determine which battery is installed, the 7th digit of the chassis number is decisive. For vehicles with rear-wheel drive from Germany:
E in this position means BYD battery 🔋
F in this position means CATL battery 🪫
thats a real deep comparison.. well done.. 👍
Do both come with trunk cover?
Yes they do.
Thank's for the really nice video!
Thank you for watching
We know if it is being delivered all Model Y with HW4 from giga-berlin?
Haven't seen cars in Europe with HW4 yet
@@ItsOnlyElectric It's sadly to hear it. hope MODEL Y update to HW4.0 ASAP . I come from Taiwan and interesting in MODEL Y berlin version W/ HW4.0
Nice review. I confirmed my MIC have a great built quality no gaps, no paint issues, no problems! Very happy with the car! The chinese change the mindset totally
Nice to hear that! Congratulations to your car
I dis see some talk about LG 2170 batteries handle the cold better, but charge slower, how about Giga Berlin cars, LG supplied batteries too?
The cars from Berlin (LR &P) seems to come with the Y5LD pack (82kWh LG NMC).
Awesome thanks! How is the LR Berlin suspension vs your Performance Berlin car??
The suspension feels the same when running on same size of wheels. During winter I run it on 19". During summer on 21" Überturbines.
ruclips.net/video/FURPLcSCQ5U/видео.htmlsi=l6SBwL3pZyz29RH4
@@ItsOnlyElectric Are there much more noise with the 21:s?
@borgenhardconsulting8491 the 21" are about more noisy.
Tested that here:
ruclips.net/video/FURPLcSCQ5U/видео.htmlsi=l6SBwL3pZyz29RH4
W8 are these cars left hand drive?
Yes, lefties
please test the charge rate, I see Bjørn's model y charging at 170kW but I'm pretty sure CATL don't charge that fast, maybe 130kW or so
Don't have any CATL car available for the moment. Will do when I have
My Y LR from Berlin starts charging at 230kWh by 12% state of charge, but drops to 175 at 25%Soc
Yes, that's the LR and it charges faster than the SR CATL.
@@larsw.larsen4173 mine tops at 252kW on single digit SoC.
@@ItsOnlyElectric you have to be quick to enjoy the 250 kWh 😉
Is noise level something like VW Passat?
Yes, in that ballpark. None of them are silent but rather average.
Any comparisons with the US version?
Unfortunately not. Hard to get hold of one in Europe.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Thanks! In Canada, they stopped selling the US version and started selling the Chinese version with a reduced MSRP.
@clee666 good that the lowered the price! 👍
Thank for the video.
Im waiting for a LR model Y in Germany so I suppose it will come from Berlin.
Would you say the ride is uncomfortable? Has it improved a lot from the first model Y from China?
Yrs it's a big improvement from the first version. 👍Hope you get yours soon. Thank you for watching
Dont worry I have Tesla Y german... Great u can change drive comfort also...
This is a very interesting update, thank you.
Thank you for watching
You should have mentioned the charging-curves! They don't have the same batteries. You can charge the BYD-cells in the German Tesla for way longer at a constant high wattage than the CATL-cells. The German Model Y charges quicker!
That goes for the standard range LFP-batteries.
That's a good point as such. But, the cars in this video are long range cars = NMC and not LFP batteries.
Your videos are very impressive.
Glad you like them!
Wierd that it isn't a bigger difference.
MIC feels nicer that plastic that often get dirty. This carpet is a nightmare to clean without a tornado.
Good way to see it. Have never though about the cleaning aspect .
Muchas gracias! Buen vídeo!
De nada! 🙏
Got my Model Y LR in March and that was build in China in December. At that time they only build back and white Model Y's in Germany so I had no choice with my blue one. The suspension seems relatively hard but I have no comparison. At the moment all Model Y's are coming from Germany if you live in Europe (except UK). So this is more a theoretical thing for now...
Some SR still seems to come from Shanghai though.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Are you sure? We have the BYD Blade SR from Giga Berlin and it is amazing! This charges from 10-98% the same time as the the LR from 10-80%! This means the SR has a longer range than the LR (at least on the second stint) because the SR is more efficient...
That's great! Yes, I have seen both SR from china and Berlin lately.
I got MY SR, took delivery on 02.08. It was built on 10.06. in China, and they still keep coming from China on a daily basis... :)
@gkicosev thanks for reporting
Thank for your video ! I live in Europe and I have ordered a model y performance. We can not choose factory where the car is made. How i do know were the car was made?
When you get your VIN number you can see where it's made. But currently all left han drive Performance cars comes from Berlin.
@@ItsOnlyElectric thank you that make me relieved 😊
Very interesting. Thanks a lot
Glad I could help
I love the quick silver when will the US get their heads together.
It will come to US. Just a mather of time.
Silver one looks good. Don't think I have see it on German roads much
It's fairly new .
Quicksilver ftw :)
Great video!
Thanks!
You mentioned teslas are not quiet. Can you mention few cars that are quiet?
Peers like: VW ID4, Ioniq 5, Mustang Mach E, BMW IX3, Skoda Enyaq, Polestar P2 and so on.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Hmmm interesting. What about cars that are not electric? do you have some knowledge about that?
@@vicmotoFXDL only testing fully electric. 🙂
Thanks for this review, very nice presented.
I'm starting to see what's on the ev market and for my needs, Tesla seems to provide a good deal with the Y model.
So, if my undestanding is correct, the only way to be sure to order a German model is to filter with the color.
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It's depending on where you live. In Europe (excluding uk) most deliveries for long range and all Performances comes from Berlin (some LR can still be coming from Shanghai). Right hand drives, UK, comes from Shanghai. Canada seems to get cars from China and US. Currently the best warranty for getting a German build us to order a quicksilver or cherry red.
Where do you live?
@@ItsOnlyElectricIn the north of France
@@manolito7045 a long range cherry Red otär quicksilver will for sure come from berlin. Probably all colors will by now, but when it comes to tesla it's constantly changing.
Giga berlin model y has HW4 or HW3
Not sure, but last time I checked only cars from Shanghai had HW4 and Berlin still on HW3.
Nice conclusion! I live in Taiwan. Having a better Model Y that comes from Berlin❤
Congratulations! 👍 Happy with it?
Thanks this is really insightful, I was just wondering if the build quality was better on china than in the us where I live. I’m waiting for delivery in my model Y, I LOVE ❤ the quicksilver color, wish they had it here, I’m getting the white one tho. I wonder if when TESLA does these subtle updates? Which I heard they do all the time, if it is done worldwide or if it is per factory, because each of these models have their advantages and disadvantages. I’m sure china does a better job at assembly and glass, specially after watching the documentary American Factory. Thanks again for the comparison, really interesting
Glad that you liked it..👍 also a. It's surprising for me that the differences still exists. Maybe to be able to have a higher margin on the Chinese market?
@@ItsOnlyElectric It can be the high margin on the Chinese market, but also the enormous pressure from the competitions by Tesla's Chinese rivals urge Tesla Giga Shanhai to build better and sell cheaper in China. We all should be glad to have all those different Chinese EV brands and competitions in the blooming China EV industry.
@manuelphotography yes, probably the case.
Quick Silver is definitely a nicer color.
Agree
Quiksilve is nice but not worth 3.000€ for a 10€ paint
It’s the best of both world what about Austin with structural batteries mymymy.
Berlin model seems bigger?? or is it just me.
The exact sane size. Maybe the lighter color makes it look bigger.
Not quite as big as ur mum.
I agree with everything but not the color...the darker grey is way prettier for me. Gaps in German made cars for me are Terrible.
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The most crucial part of the price, you didn't compare, haha!
It's cheaper on the Chinese msrket. But price is the same in Europe, that's why I didn't mention anything about it.
Ok we have a model Y expert
😂
Haw quanint, the absolute generic color, silver grey that was frowned upon in the late 2000s, as being the most widespread and boring color, every nobody in his vw passat..imagine that, being made in germany coming with the lame silver grey and not the coold dark shade grey the chinese made one
The only Tesla worth buying are the chinese made ones.
Chinese version has a better battery
Cost = Cost ???
Yes, in Europe they cost the same. But in canada they seem to have lowered the price of the Shanghai build
Elon Musk states that Shanghai Tesla produce the highest quality cars for the company. End of discussion.
It's NOT THE END OF DISCUSSION. The German factory is superior in several aspects as is the China factory. You sound like a China bot. It's ridiculous. Did you even watch the video? Quite balanced if you ask me. Germany's got better paint, got better isolation and the seats are superior among other things. The China factory has better panel gaps... Your spew is just propaganda
interesting!!
I’ve owne various German cars and they were terrible, I own a Chinese Tesla and it’s amazing 😊
I have fremont
Happy with it?
And this design will be replaced within the next 12 months. Model 3 will be replaced within weeks.
Chinese car 25% cheaper.
Battery last longer
Same price in Europe.
In Chinese there are mudguards ;)
All Y gets mudguard in Scandinavia.
Why is Zelensky doing EV cars instead of protecting Ukraine !?!?!?!!??
Haha! That's the first time someone says I look a like Zelensky.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Don't lie to us Mr. Zelensky, we know your secret now
@robertadrianwayne 😂😂
Made in Germany is not a plus at all for me, I would never touch an overpriced BMW or Merc badge that falls apart once the warranty runs out.
Puh, I’ll need to rush into my garage now and let my two BMW’s know, 10 and 12 years old respectively, that it’s wrong they’re still having no issues and no repairs because John on the internet said so… 😎
is this guy swedish
Yes I am 🇸🇪
上海的特斯拉工场是独资，跟中国没什么关系，好坏全看马斯克
you say the same things for over 1minute lol stop saying the same stuff
Seats = Europeans are taller and fatter.
😂😂 true! But the European seats are better in all ways. Not only for big ones.
Tell me about the seats from Fremont and Texas than
rasict test
Guess that's a joke
Get checked out by a psychiatrist. There is nothing racist about that test.
TESLA É UM CARRO CHINES DE MARCA AMERICANA, O IPONE É UM CELULAR CHINES DE MARCA AMERICANA, O NIKE É UM TENIS DA CHINA DE MARCA AMERICANA, A COCA COLA NA CHINA É REFIGERANTE CHINES DE MARCA AMERICANA, ESTADOS UNIDOS É IGUAL AO BRASIL A DIFERENÇA É SÓ O DOLAR.