So my prediction of the everything works out ending was proven completely wrong. I assumed that would be the ending because nothing was being built or set up to go in a different direction. Silly me, it's my fault for being naive. I spent this whole video complaining about how D&D don't care about properly setting things up, I should have expected a completely out of nowhere left turn into crazy town. Part 2 now out! ruclips.net/video/wuiNRpeqg3A/видео.html
I honestly don't know what they are planning with just a single episode left and not much more to cover as there is no main enemy anymore, going to be a slow episode for sure with a lot of back stabbing and probably set ups for spin off series to come
Entertainment today tries to steer clear of anything actually cool. A sword fight between a hero and a white walker would be awesome, but might hurt women's feelings because they could never be as badass as a man. So creators now just "subvert expectations", also known as lazy writing.
@@johnlungo8080 But Brienne has a valyrian sword so she is a woman who can have that fight. And Arya still could have killed the NK when he is fighting another character, assassin style. And we could have had a WW in the crypt where Varys sacrifices himself so Tyrion and Sansa could have an opportunity to kill him. The writters are just bad
But why would a White Walker engage in combat? Can you give me ONE logical reason why you, as a White Walker, would risk your life (and the unlives of your wights) in a duel? Same with NK and Jon. NK could lose everything he's worked for the last x years to some raggy-haired hobo with a sword.
yeah those after episode interview things were so painful, they were talking about their work in the third person as if they were fans of it, "I think jon did this for this reason and whats really interesting about that is...." was how they would talk lol, they both have very, very punchable faces.
to be fair that is a pretty good reason. the real question is why go to kings landing by boat when euron and the iron fleet is around why not just move on land or better yet how do you even forget that the iron fleet exist. daenerys: because the writers say we have to and because the writers say i forgot.
-We have two options, we go by land where we have some disadvantage since a big chunk of our army is gone or we go by sea, were we have a massive disadvantage even with a full army since they have the fucking Iron Fleet waiting for us somewhere on the way. -Hmmmm... To the boats.
@@Mr.Sax. Because Tyrion thinks he is smart and devises the brilliant(retarded) plans that always fail. If it wasn't for Tyrion, Danny could have defeated Kings landing with 3 alive dragons a few seasons ago giving them tons of more allies and resources to fight the Night King, but instead the little imp drove her crazy with his constant failed (brilliant) plans and now she looks like the bad guy. I can't wait till Tyrion dies.
@@FearRua Tyrion dumb, sure. The writers are the dumb ones for making such smart characters like Tyrion or Lord Bayless make such bold moves in the last seasons. Don't ever make such statement again before thinking.
@@Mr.Sax. Dani is not cruel the writers make her cruel. John Snow is not brave the writers make him act brave. Are you even reading what you are saying? If a characters was smart it was the writers who made him smart in the first plays.
Me 6 years ago: GoT is the best series ever because unlike the other series, they adapt the story off a book, and don't pull it out their asses like other series do. Me now: For fuck's sake
See this is the difference between game of thrones and the lord of the rings which was mentioned in the video. The lord of the rings books have been out for years and years and they took the material (God bless Peter Jackson) and made the movies which are pretty good even by casual viewer standards. GRRM has been bullshitting for a while not getting the books out and look what happens. After they ran out of book material the show has basically gone to shit. The braindead morons writing the stuff are throwing shit at the wall and trying to see what sticks and nothing is
They are running out of ideas and want cashgrabs where ever they find it. Song of ice and fire successful? Let's take it and rape it for money, and not wait till it's done like Lord of the Rings.
This is like the hundredth video I've watched of people explaining how they would've resolved the conflict with the NK, with Cersei and Dany, etc and all of them are way more SENSIBLE AND LOGICAL THAN WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
and yet the 1% still rules. people are angry exactly because they ruin someone who was supposed to change the world and break the wheels. these stupid for profit shows aren't sincere after all
1 Random undead can hear a drop of Ayra's blood hitting the floor. 10+ whites 100s of undead and 1 Night king can't hear a yelling running/jumping Arya. *ALL IN THE SAME EPISODE*
The white walkers turned their heads before she attacked the Night King. This means they heard her, but she was too fast for them to react to in time. There goes your theory. Now was the show stupid or are you just upset that Jon didn't kill the Night King?
@@ericstaples7220 it was stupid. Personally I've been counting down to King's Landing. Whether it was going to be Cersei coming out on top, or if Jaime or Tyrion put a stop to her, all against a backdrop of Arya returning from a place of strength to resolve her arc and avenge the life she was thrown out of. Perhaps even destroying Tyrion and Jaime you never know... Season 7 finale was unintentionally hilarious and I think lessened my enthusiasm, they went the way they did I wouldn't say it bothers me it's just anticlimactic.
And anyone who is a No One with No One parents with zero force training can become a Jedi. Arya is lightyears better than Rey mind you but this whole well Jon Snow was important but we want to have Arya be our Rey (it was cool though but...) just for a twist is out of a Last Jedi playbook. When was the last good significant kill Jon Snow made? He punched Ramsay out, has a few stare downs with the Night King and his dragon. Maybe Jon Snow truly does know nothing cause it seems apart from brooding diplomacy he does what?
My big issue is that Jon Snow should've killed the Night King while Arya should've killed Cersei. Jon is connected to the Night King more than Arya. Arya killing the Night King doesn't make much sense. But at the same time Arya needs a big moment for her development in this season. Killing the Night King didn't develop the character. Killing Cersei would have. Arya got nothing out of this season even if she is the real hero.
@@chrismassalas Yeah, make his character and that conflict that's been building actually mean something, instead of brushing it aside as if it was nothing more than a minor annoyance.
Imagine Hermione kills Voldemort in the sixth book. The final of the 7th book is how Harry tries to win the Quidditch Cup against the evil Slytherin. Season 8 GoT.
@David Kinney yes, my opinion doesn't add anything, just like you saying GoT is good because it's a new type of story doesn't add anything to the matter of the bad execution of the said story.
@David Kinney I don't really see any analysis, all you said was that GoT doesn't have a specific lead character. This fact doesn't make it good or bad, that's true. But then you went on saying "How about we try something new?", which has a positive undertone to it, which in turn implies you think of this 'new' stuff as good. So this basically means that you stated a subjective view that doesn't add to anything.
hey at least that would be fun to watch, i mean sure gryffindor would have a heavy advantage from the thousand points given to Harry for Killing Voldemort.
I'm impressed at how good your alternative storyline is, but then again literally every alternative storyline I've heard for this episode has been better than what they actually went with.
They are just dues ex machina everything. Arya's teleports out of no where for the kill and half their army was still alive the next episode even though it looked like everyone died. If they remove the dues ex machina and make a normal consistent it is all fixed. Arya fights her way through the army to get to the night king(maybe with some help of other main characters?) and the army acts intelligently so half of them survive. The story is fine like that.
This still would’ve made more sense than MarySue Stark!!! Remember they say that the Valyrian word is basically *”gender neutral”* or can be used for both female or male description? Well... what if that Valyrian word was *”neutral,”* because the _Azor mf Ahai_ was *”NEUTERED?!”* 😱🤣 Still makes WAY more sense than _deus ex Stark’ina getting “the kill”!!_ 🤦♀️
Mountain is not vulnerable to Valyrian Steel or dragon glass. Mountain was made to feel no pain by Qybern. Hound went head on, without stealth, declaring a duel. Of course it's going to be difficult when it's a match of strength.
Pranav Kulkarni Yeah I already got that, my comment was comical with intentional lack of detail due to whats been of season 8 lately; along with the fact that there should have been prolonged screen time for killing the night king imo that way the satisfaction of his death could have been greater.
@@Shaambum it was alright in my opinion. People would have had a problem no matter how he would have died. A prolonged battle with the Azor Ahai and finally killing the Night King like how the mountain kills Oberyn Martell would've been fan service. The show has a strong history of not giving the fans what they want. No reason why that should be so surprising now.
Pranav Kulkarni it’s true they never do thats why i kind of already knew Daenayrs wouldn’t have the journey we all wanted as thats just too much of a happy ending. Its not surprising. To be honest I wasn’t that disappointed by how the death of the NK played out, I just think it could have been a little more prolonged thats all.
@@Shaambum lol I can go all you're wrong hurr durr but I'll take the high road since you did too. I've had some mad debates about the episodes 😅 I was satisfied with the 3rd episode but the 4 one was garbage.
I went from chomping at the bit for every episode and waiting anxiously for two years to not caring in about ten minutes. That's really impressive honestly.
@@princecharming69 the whole point was to show how pointless all the power struggles were. The night King is the main antagonist. Not cersei. Cersei is just a secondary annoyance by comparison. Fuck these writers. They made the night King a joke.
I admire you for being able to stay invested for that long. I starting tuning out halfway through season 4, season 5 being the nail on the head. I just watch it now to laugh at their incompetence.
Seven and a half seasons in and you've failed to grasp that this is a show about the power struggles between rival families. The threat from the White Walkers has always always always been a sub plot. An amorphous background threat that the humans ignore whilst they plot and scheme against each other. It's ultimately a commentary on human nature and our self destructive nature.
@@aidanmagill6769 No. The whole point of the books and seasons is to show the futility of war and bickering. We got so many shots of burnt fields with the Hound and Arya as Winter approached. So much wasted food, resources and men. Ever since season 4 it's been fan service at the expense of the plot.
Aidan Magill I wonder how many more ‘This series has been awful for 4 seasons, but somehow I still watch it/know it like the back of my hand and am taking the time out of my day to make a video about it’ there will be before the series ends?
The death of cersei should've been season 7 when dany had an army and 3 dragon and this SEASON SHOULD'VE BEEN THE NIGHT KING SEASON THE GREAT WAR SEASON
nah i think the other way around, because the whole point is who ends up on the iron throne, and it was never going to be the night king, but they should of made the battle for against night king the whole of season 7 and then boom more time for season 8 to really see who ends up with the throne, but i guess that hows the books goes.
Dumb and Dumber oh we planned arya killing the night king for 3 seasons now OH THAT BULLSHIT STORYWISE IT SHOULD'VE BEEN JON THAT KILLED THE NIGHT KING. AND ALOT OF HUGE NAME CHARACTERS SHOULDVE DIED ESPECIALLY SAM
@0 Subscribers Without Videos Do you have proof of what you say. That it is his ending? Because if push came to shove I could pull up clips of him stating how he became less involved over the seasons, and that he had an agreement from the start that they could take it in any direction they wanted. He writes slow + gets easily distracted + takes on too much work = this has been his thing for decades. So if you are just finding him from the show just know we readers have been tortured for decades.
ckhawk00 True, but there also just seemed to be a lack of care: the coffee cups/water bottle left in final shots, telling archers “Fire!” Instead of “Loose!,” Gendry calling himself the wrong bastard name, the plot armor, the abandonment of many plot lines, characters contradicting or not acting like themselves, etc.
It’s not that George wasn’t involved. Why it failed is because George didn’t already write it for them and they just adapt it to TV. That’s the reason the first few seasons were good.
I'm legitimately just going to pretend that this season was a vision that Bran had of a possible future, and I'm going to write my own scripts about how it ended and consider it canon. Because this is like watching bad fan fiction as it is. No way can mine be worse.
My firm opinion is that film makers should listen to fans when they write storylines. Multiple people are smarter than just two, especially when the show is this big with so many characters and character arcs. But nooooooope they had to try to be the smart guy. Spoiler alert: it hasn't worked out well so far.
@@MohammadAli-iz9ld they are hacks who merely thrive in the politics of film industry, hence they got to do the writing despite their lack of aptitude in it.
@@zonipoi I heard from someone they didn't wanna continue Game of Thrones because they got bored with it but what the fuck does this show for anything they will make in the future?
Or saying that Dany "forgot about the iron fleet" when at some point in the episode before it somewhere she was told about the iron fleet. She's either really bad with her memory or they wrote themselves into a corner and shit the bed when it came to making sense if it
No no no. The actor should know, not the writers. As displayed by what Marvel has done. Half the marvel scripts are improv these days. I hope the writers learned a lesson here that they take with them to star wars. The directors of the star wars reboot made the same mistake. Listen to your actors. They are the character.
@@Mason-kd2zr this coming from one of the writers and directors of X-Men Origins: Wolverine and decided to change deadpool into the opposite of the 'Merc with the Mouth' Honestly D&D do better when they are working with someone who can take the lead or they become nearly assistant directors and assistant writers. If they had more source material, maybe it could've been better. But with every year they took more liberties and burned so many plot lines that it's not surprising the show became swiss cheese. Like I could see more holes in the past few seasons than their are in two full games of Golf! (Tbh, I wish someone would throw rotten tomatoes and feces on them for the next ten years whenever they go into public, but that's what I think they deserve)
Finn Feaver I mean why you get a script that I’m sure just said *a battle ensues* and a director that just yelled “YES BE SCARED YOURE GONNE BE OVER RUN AND DIE YOURE TERRIFIED” what else can ya do?
they could've redeemed 8-3 with one small edit. Just as the NK catches Arya, Bran grabs NK's by the arm. Then Arya finishes him. That would've changed everything. It wouldn't be the best resolution, don't get me wrong, but it at least wouldn't be the sack of sh!t it currently is.
I was never planning on reading the books, figuring that I'd get everything I needed out of the show and going back through the same plotlines would just be tedious. Then season 8 started airing and suddenly I'm very excited to go read the books so I can get back to what I love most about game of thrones: well planned stories with well developed characters
Decimated means to kill one out of ten...which would mean that nine out of ten are still alive. Not that I disagree that common sense was sacrificed for the purposes of a good visual, but words do have meanings.
TCS4680 True. Words do have meanings. Sometimes some words have multiple meanings such as decimate. It also means to destroy a large portion (which is applicable to the context used in the original comment). Most recently another definition is to completely wipe out, but that’s not important seen as episode 5 proves the dothraki situation is best described by the second meaning of the word I listed.
@Knasterreal1 no only a few survived, those that came back. all dothrakis was used in the initial charged since they are an cavalry unit, they dont fight on foot. also when they pan the cam above winterfell almost no defenders left at all.
Remember when George Lucas ruined the entire franchise with episodes 1-3? The original Star Wars were only good because of George Lucas being on a leash.
It's not just valyrian steel. it's the same dagger pushed into him by the children of the forest from which he was made a white walker. But getting Arya to do it? Yeah, that was completely a cunt brothers move. Doing something not because it makes senses, but because it subverts expectations!
Jao Romero they stabbed him with dragonglass, not a dagger. Also, valyrian steel is a mix of steel, dragonfire and dragonglass alike. Still weird ill admit. Either have him die from dragonfire or dont blast him with it in the first place
S1: winter is coming S2: winter is coming S3: winter is coming S4: winter is cooming! S5: winter is coooming!!! S6: winter is coooominnggg!!! S7: winter is coooooominggg!!!!! S8: winter is here, and it's gone, bottoms up, let's move on
Benioff and Weiss kept on diverging from the books and also were trying increasingly more to write the story in order to please the audience rather than to follow to coherent plot laid out since the start. Sadly you can see this increasing with each episode of seasons seven and eight. It's kind of sad because the producers choked at the end when they had all the resources required in order to deliver (funds, directors, and actors)... D&D did their best not to kill off favorite characters to avoid disappointing some of the audience, in the end, it feels fake in GOT standards. D&D should have tried at all costs to remain coherent with the narrative laid out since the onset (which comes from the books). Put differently it feels like after reading the first four books you got to read Winds of Winter written this time by completely other authors...
Actually, I'll just say how to fix that premature ending...is to have the Night King divide his forces and take half of it South and screw with Cercei, which was something I wanted to see, but was disappointed that wasn't what happened.
It would make perfect sense to just put a siege on Winterfell and march south. As long as dead have something to counter dragons (those javelins from s6 + constant cloudy blizzard spell could work) they have no reason to assault the walls where they can be killed 1000 zombies for one dude on a wall. All the while living would never meet them in the field, staying mostly in the castle with only some raids out. This is what I think happens in the books. Winterfell has a year long siege with different magical or covert dangers, while defenders also try to somehow get to the whites to break siege. Supplies will not last them for whole winter. Meanwhile main force of the dead attacks unprepared (ravaged by civil wars) south.
Probably have a single Wight left behind to capture Bran as the general of the undead force while the Night King and the rest go south. Wouldn't be that bad if it was that Wight that killed Theon or was killed by Arya. Cercie has ballistae for live dragons, but it would have been nice to see them used uselessly on the Night King's dragon.
Ghostwalker2061 better yet, as Doomcock said, he should’ve bypassed Winterfell completely. That would’ve been ‘subverting expectations’ in a good way. We would’ve been expecting a giant throwdown at winterfell only for the Night king to blitz right past and march down South without so much as a blink in Jon’s direction. The defenders would be thrown into complete confusion as they now have to quickly prepare for a pursuit after literally digging themselves into a defensive hole.
@@SultanOfAwesomeness Especially when you consider the fact that the NK doesn't need castles, towns or other man made structures and/or resources that humans rely on, all he needs is corpses, and there are plenty of them to be found down south.
The same reason Jaime said he doesn't care about innocent people in King's Landing after killing his own king to protect the innocent people of King's Landing. Because D&D are hack writers who can't keep their characters even remotely consistent.
Not only plot holes.. Terrible battle strategies, people do stupid things, nothing is explained, wayy to many cuts, knight king is dead in only one episode, half the army somehow survives, plot armor, seems like people are about to die but no and scorps lost 100% from ep 4-5...
i can tell you much more, but you know there is much more. Because the show is so bad that everybody can see every mistake they make, even if it's just a starbucks cup
@@TonySharkks Dumb and Dumber subverted away any hope for spin off's with their handling of the walkers no its reboot time and when it is inevitably rebooted i hope its in a animated format so it can actually be accurate to the books that and voice actors don't have the giant egos that have to be stroked like regular actors.
Ýou have a BIG EGO madam and you need to wake up to reality!!! What qualifies you to say about Dan and David,the are dumb and dumber!? Just because your EGO was not full filled,it dosen't mean that season 8 is not brilliant!
Ceiling was the best character in the series. Killed cercie lannister who was basically the main villain since the night king died so quickly. The ceiling is my favourite character ever.
what i would have wanted to see 1- Arya tries to kill Jamie using one of her faces, only to have Bran stop her. 2- Jamie asks Bran why Tommen committed suicide and to learn the bitter truth. This where Bran's reply of "the things I do for love." better comes into play. 3- A cruel and bitter death for Cersei 4- the Golden Company being more than just a handful of extras 5- have the Night King the final battle 6- have Jon Snow being Aegon Targaryen actually mean something and that's just to start
@@vegasgirl3538 I KNOW, "she forgot about his fleet" the whole point of them going there was to destroy his fleet and surround the city. Nevermind the conversation they had 5 min before that happened about defeating his fleet and starving the town. The fleet was her main enemy "whoopsie I forgot"
Credit to whoever posted this comment elsewhere, but killing the Night King in one episode would have been like Gimli smashing the ring with his ax in Rivendell.
The white walkers not even fighting would be like ringwraiths never fought. They are basically the same thing as the white walkers, the generals and body guard sort of thing.
No, you have to get right to the end before you make large sections of the plot pointless. So, instead of Gollum stealing the Ring and falling into the lava, Galadriel appears out of nowhere, "I'll take that Frodo. You were right. I should have taken the responsibility, rather than leaving it to some poor mortal with no way to protect himself." Gollum, tries to steal the ring. Galadriel immediately disables him and she casually tosses the ring into the fires of Mount Doom. She then teleports everyone to safety. Divorces her husband, whose lack of confidence in her had stopped her from taking the Ring in the first place, cock punts Aragorn and rules the world with Arwen and Éowyn as a polyamorous family. Everybody lives happily ever after.
Killing him in one episode could have worked, if it wasn't such an anti-climactic battle? Literally took 5 seconds from when Arya attacked him to him dying. He definitely died like a bitch.
Dude, I think that was my comment from another video! Probably on Mauler's channel. I think I said it is like Gimli smashing the ring in Rivendell and Denethor is the final boss xD I don't know, it might have been or someone has the same mind as me. I have been watching videos of this season all week trying to make sense of it all to no avail.
Okay I know I’m triple-dipping on comments here. But I also wanted Theon to kill the NK. I legit thought that Theon would use his extreme pain tolerance developed as Reek to pull the spear out of him and kill the NK from behind. Ramsay would have inadvertently saved the world because of the carnage he inflicted on Theon. Nice.
I thought Bran would warg into him to make him ignore pain and live just long enough to backstab the NK. Also, Arya survived a similar wound just fine, inflicted by the Waif. Arya also happened to kill the NK out of nowhere. HMMMMMM.
That would've really cool actually. Another easy way they could've redeemed 8-3 with one small edit is ... Just as the NK catches Arya, Bran grabs NK by the arm. (mimicking him) Then Arya finishes him. That would've changed everything. It wouldn't be the best resolution, don't get me wrong, but it at least wouldn't be the sack of sh!t it currently is.
Meanwhile there is Samwell, a character that spent the whole time crying on the floor, survives just to tell us that he's retiring with his pregnant girlfriend. What a hero. /sarcasm
And their careers I would imagine. They were already let go from doing star wars because they knew it was gonna bomb because no one is interested in seeing their 'work' anymore.
To be fair, everyone knows that whatever Sandor Clegane says will happen, it WILL happen. The Hound has never been wrong in his predictions before, so I guess Arya decided that, as long as Cersei dies, it's fine by her... keep in mind that some of the names in her list were crossed off before she ever had a say in the matter.
Seriously after these last two (make 2 and a half) seasons of game of thrones I dont ever wanna hear people talk about how the show is better than the LOTR trilogy. As a LOTR fan I was almost becoming convinced but I told the game of thrones fan friends just wait to see how GOT concludes first before you compare. And now its safe to say it won't ever surpass the greatness that is the LOTR trilogy.
@@00Kuja00 But when Gollum did it, it made sense from the writing and character development before that. Arye had no character arc/emotional stake in this fight. She was the wrong character to kill the NK.
@@00Kuja00 And in the context of the entire conversation, I said that gollum doing it made sense. It wasn't like pippin appeared from behind a bush and it wasn't like the action didn't follow from what we knew of gollum's character.
Yeah and maybe TNK kills Theon after knocking Longclaw out of Jon's hand and is about to kill Jon before Arya tosses him the dagger or, better yet, stabs TNK in the back of the neck paralleling Howland Reed saving Ned
The worst thing for me is the fact that Bran is really useless. Dude struggled for several seasons to become the 3 eyed raven. It was foreshadowed since season one. He trained forever. I'm sure I wasn't the only one that assumed he was doing it to defeat the Night King. But what did he really do towards that end? Told everybody "hey, I make excellent bait" and then chilled. He's become a really irritating character because all his aloofness comes to nothing. Like if Tony Stark was just as arrogant and egotistical but also really dumb. Now the only role he has really played is to create an unnecessary conflict between Dani and Jon. He's beyond the concerns of men, yet he serves no role outside of them. Dumb!!
I did think it was pretty neat that Bran gave Arya that dagger from season 1 that was meant to kill him and she ended up killing the NK with it. But it would have been better if Arya and Jon together killed NK. She gets caught mid-air and tries to stab him but it won't penetrate his "armor" and Jon flings his sword from like 20 yards away and as NK turns his head it stabs him right in the face...or something. Bran definitely shoulda warged into a dragon or maybe Arya at that point. I mean that might help explain how she got so close. By the time NK sees Bran, Bran looks up with white eyes, the camera zooms in on them and the audience is like "holy shit he's warged!" and then there's Arya behind him. Then she's caught mid-air. Bran de-wargs and Arya tries to stab him and fails. Panic sets in and Aryas choking while she catches a glimpse of Jon and the sword comes flying. That's be cool I think. Most scenes could have been done so much better. Maybe Theon could have first killed an NK possee member which would have distracted the NK and then died shortly after.
What I hate is that Bran's role seems to indicate that he can see "what will happen". So he can just go to screensaver mode, watch some historical porn, and emerge from his visions just before the shit he saw and was predicted - just happens. Wonderful. This arc really really sucks. BRan "checking-out" is one or the top few worst things of this SHIT episode.
@O-Ren Ishii Bruh, he didn't need to see in the future all he had to do was fly some fucking ravens down to kings landing, and eaves drop, or spot the iron fleet sporting scorpions.
But I can tell you about Hodor's backstory and how Ned Stark and Lysa Arryn were both betrayed and who Jon Snow really is. Is that important for you to know?
He's not bran he's the three eyed Raven his entire purpose is to stay out of politics he tells Jon he's egon tagerayan because it gives him drive to fight the night king etc whatever his number one rule is not to get involved in anything else so that's why he didn't do that
Everyone : there's a Starbucks coffee cup in front of Dany... Benioff & Weiss (aka dumb & dumber) : we thought a coffee cup would subvert expectations... And the cup thought it was a great idea...
Holy hell you can't even type and you're criticizing professional writers and one of the best-written shows of all time. Just stop watching if you don't like it, and spare us your crybaby bullshit.
An actual, experienced, talented writer...with a track record of not finishing his book series. Have you read his GOT books? I have and the reason why he often doesn't finish them is because he's unusually weak at finding a story arc. This is why the GOT books just meander away into an uninteresting, directionless mess. His one trick is to kill off protagonists. It soon grows old and causes the lack of a story arc because there's no longer a character to follow to a satisfying denouement.
I love how in season 8 they had D&D after the episode trying to justify terrible writing. Like if you have to say "she kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet", when the Iron Fleet was mentioned within the episode, you suck at writing. If you've got to explain why things make sense after the episode, you've kind of forgot how to write. Imagine watching a movie, and after the credits, the writers start telling you "no, it's not that this doesn't make any sense or doesn't adhere to who the character is, they just kind of forgot". The fact that they did this basically proves that they knew their writing was atrocious and they owed people an explanation of some sort lol.
Because she has always been a psychopath who only did what was good for her goals and killed everything that was in her way ? And the whole thing to think that everybody just wants to betray you isn't that already a sign to be on the edge of insanity ?
He already said they'd diverge at some points. And there's no way in hell GRRM figured out who'd defeat the Big Bad and conclude the main plot of his entire series in 2016.
is that why so many chapters of the book feature Arya's journey ? it's even more extensive and goes nowhere for even longer than in the show, there's going to be pay off for that, Arya's wolf isn't Shaggydog, George himself has said the major plot points for the ending will be very similar as for the show, that's from the very same quote people draw from when they say 'George said there will be differences' . . . people making up shit & throwing around second hand information like it's fact, it will be done Better in the books, that doesn't mean the big things that occur will actually change. The leader of the White Walkers is Very likely to die to Arya in the books(& ik no leader is revealed yet), that doesn't mean his death will end everything so suddenly as it did in the show, White Walkers are more built up there as a people there & D&D are known to cut out large chunks of things at any opportunity through their time as the GoT showrunners.
@@JohnDoe-xd6yo George himself has made clear there are parts of the show he disagrees with & that the show was cut a lot shorter than it could have & arguably should have been, he's also done things like make a point of releasing a Euron excerpt from the unreleased book to show up show Euron as being sub par shortly following Euron's show appearance, the show is Not faithful to the books & the showrunners pretty categorically have had disagreements with him and gone against his wishes on a number of things, that doesn't mean that he didn't put his best efforts into making it be a faithful representation & being as good as it can possibly be, or that it's not following the major plotpoints he laid down, it's just connecting the dots way too fast & not staying faithful to the journey, there are definite issues, just not the ones people are making of it here.
@@Marcusjnmc The thing about writers like George R. R. Martin or Stephen King is, that they sometimes surprise themselves with what their characters do, because the characters logically react to circumstances. They might have a sketch of what is to happen, but if it doesn't make sense even though they want the story to go certain way, they'll diverge from the initial plan.
P Patrick how did no one see Arya anyways? He’s got like a million soldiers around him and she was able to sneak up on him and then launch a screaming attack.... from 10 feet away :/
niefali literally the opening shot of the show is the walkers, the political stuff was fantastic but the point was that people were focused on that throne and they were wrong to do so due to the bigger threat. Then we have the big realisation in season 7 that the walkers are the real threat and who sits on the throne isn’t important... than D&D decided to beat the WW in a single episode and undo all the work put in focusing on how the throne wasn’t the real important thing
niefali my point is D&D are shit at writing so I’ll take they are crap at planning out the season as a win 😂 I really don’t understand why they would make it a shorter season, you make more money by stretching it out but they condensed it ruining the story and making hbo less cash...
@@cigh7445 Well it's more like "A Song Of Ice And Fire" so it's not entirely about "who's gonna sit on the throne". Fantasy and darkness take a huge part in the story and constructed some of the important character (Bran, Jon, Daenerys, Jorah, even Arya with that swaping of face/voice/size/body?) The throne is important and a cool story but this is not the only one, and it's hard to believe that anyone would fucking care about fighting for the throne after fighting an army of dead people... You have to give them a purpose to do so, and the only way was to keep the NK alive till he marchs on Kings Landing
Night King was more relevant and better written, though. We actually saw him arrive, wreak havoc and win on several occasions. Snoke was just there to boss Kylo around for a bit because the writers didn’t develop or explain him properly.
@Ragnarok Snoke was someone, how else he got to power? It might be irrelevant to the story but he was someone. Snoke was like the Emperador in the OG, except the Emp served a narrative porpuse, to be the evil guy that wanted to take over the world and to provide a conflict between DV and Luke, his death meant something. His death meant the Anakin came back to the light side of the force and brought "balance" to the force. What did Snoke death meant for SW? He was, again, a bridge to create conflict between the two protagonist. After Swolo killed him, what happened? Nothing, he just continues being abad guy, in fact, it was being hinted that Swolo might go back to the light side aswel, but after killing Snoke, thats out of the table, there is nothing that can bring Swolo to the light side again. They killed Snoke for the "mY sUbvErsiON" same thing as with the NK and Danys fall into madness, which had been hinted at for some seasons now, but was poorly excuted.
@@Rattenhoofd He isn't a non-rhotic speaker with any other word in the video. He just doesn't know the name of one of the major characters in the grandfather of all fantasy literature, no big.
Nathan Gehman I think it’s more just being a huge LOTR fan and wanting things said correctly 🙈 and making sure that you weren’t the only one to notice haha
@@sonicfreak04 They'll be done, but not probably by GRRM, he has limited time now and even limited mental energy. Not to forget the multiple spin-offs.
I actually really like your idea of having Theon do something to the Night King. Like you said, he doesn't have to deal the killing blow but it would have been a great redemption moment for him
Having Bran hold the NK in place while everyone has to sadly leave, watch Bran disspear into the distance, and knowing that Bran will just eventually free to death is actually something that would have been heart-wrenchingly amazing.
Which does bring up a problem when you think about Sitch's changes. If Bran sacrificed himself, that would mean the Night King would gain his powers. It would be a rather bad corner that the writers would have to get themselves out of considering how powerful Bran's abilities are. Being able to be anywhere at any time means that it is impossible to have a proper strategy meeting without the enemy knowing your tactics.
I mean... It would be heart-wrenching if Bran was still Bran and not an emotionless robot. As far as I'm concerned, Bran died the moment he became the Three Eyed Raven.
This video made me want to cry from realizing how good this episode could have been and how bad the writers are :’( Fuck i need to wait for the books to come out so i can see the real ending?? 2 years I’ve waited day after day for this very episode and they just bend me over and jam a valyrian steel dagger up my ass and say that this was the ending we came up with “Oh...must be 3 years now” piss off
lol i sure hope you aren't holding your breath for that..i give the HBO writers ALOT more credit that Martin right now at least they are trying....the books are gonna go down as the single most disappointing book series ever written...there will be no winds of winter
brandon242 I really doubt that, I’m a big fan of all the books and this world in general so im biased when i say I’ll love whatever comes out in the end. And saying there will be no Winds of Winter doesn’t make sense imo because the 2 final books will come out, GRRM is just distracted and plus he allready released other books about this world so he’s not completely doing nothing haha. I’m giving absolutely nothing to D&D and this show, they’ve absolutely butchered it at this point as soon as George wasn’t a part of the show anymore. The books will have the real ending.
Remember Daenarys' vision of Kings Landing destroyed with snow falling on the capital implying winter destroyed it? Me neither. Edit: Those saying its ashes go watch the scene again there are literally icicles hanging from shit
It was vague. Prophecy is weird like that. The two generally accepted theories on this are either it means winter (aka the Night King) destroys the capital, or that Jon Snow sits on the throne. At this point, one clearly is no longer an option. What would be great is for Dany to recall it at some point in the last two episodes and come to the realization of what it meant.
For anyone who doesn't know: that's a reference to Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, which was more faithful to the source material if I remember correctly
I always like to remind everyone that Arya is literally the worst choice for killing Night King, because she is the only one person who isn't there thanks to John. Even if a random soldier killed Night King, would at least in a small way be a John doing. gg wp D&D
Yep...and the Night King would have a one on one fight with Jon as a final match...and the show ends with the Night King and his generals killing everyone and finally sits on the Iron Throne...THE END lol
And then came the 4th Episode with the Stealth Sniper fleet that shot down a flying Dragon with 3 precise shots from a mile away then missing Dani and her Dragon while they came straight at them and even broadsided (!!).. This Season cheapens the whole Show.
@@thatcabbage1258 Yup.. I didnt like Episode 3 obviously but if the whole Show ended with the shot of the red Woman turning to dust it would at least have a visually satisfying end... even better if she was the last Living Thing in Westeros.
and later on ballistas fucked up the wooden ships like somene was bombarding them with gustavo gun. Why did they use cannons for naval warfare anyway ?
And I didn't get why Dani charged without just saying "dracarys" during her dive and ridding us of the annoying, poor excuse for Euron Greyjoy that the show dumped on us.
don't forget the stupid standing in front of cersei's forces completely defenseless, begging her to just wipe what remains of the unsullied and what did she decide to do ? instead of taking advantage of all this fuckery she just let them go and decapitate the affro chick
But only Bran knows that TNK was the only first created of the white walkers, that he is the one who transofmed everyone of their white bros. If we see bran thelling Jon that it was just one original white walker, then he will undestand that killing that original, will destroy the others as he discovered beyond the wall.
@bruce wayne Maybe I'm wrong, but Jon knows that by killing a white walker the zombies he reanimated are destroyed. But he does not know that if he kills the king of the night, the other white walkers will die like zombies. We still did not know if WW transformed from babies work just like zombies. At no time was this rule established, and what I was referring to the previous comment, was that Jon does not know if the king of the night is the original and not a part of many that were created at the same time, perhaps several of them were created them at once by the first children, and killing him will only destroy part of the army. That only Bran knows and he should explain it to Jon.
@bruce wayne Also in season 7 when beyond the wall at the lake surrounded, the brotherhood general (flame sword guy) in reply to to the hound who says, something like, there aren't enough men in all Westeros to fight them all, he says, we dont need to kill them all, just that guy, pointing to white Walker king.
@ToldYouSo a little bit of common sense. If they're turned as babies.. who turns them?.. see how pieces just kinda fall into place here. 1+1=2 right? So if night king creates whites and now killing them kills any they've turned then.... I'll let you complete that one.
Just one correction, we do know why John assumed that if they kill the Night King all would die is because they killed a White's and his small squad collapsed with him
Lord of Light resurrects Jon Arya kills Night King Lord of Light: oh nevermind then forgot you were the one I needed to focus on. Blue Eyes go! Girl power
Even the nk supported her, He kindly waited for her to do her neat dagger Trick, instead of instantly snapping her Neck. Reminds me of the gentle undead Giant lifting Lady mormont to His eye so she get's at least one kill.
@Blue Rose did you watch the Video? There are different Kind of shock moments. Ned's death was the First real suprise in the Show, whereas the nk was just for subverting expectations. You knew why Ned was killed the way He was, He himself Made mistakes that were fatal in the end. The nk on the other Hand was a build Up character, we still hardly ever saw in action, yet instead of using characters that had any Connections or motivations to get to him, they used a literal deus ex machina to end His Story, Just because they wanted to shock people. When the death of a character does Not make any Sense ( the nk had No reason to be at that particular Spot, as He proved way more intelligent in earlier Episodes than to Fall for that obvious Trap) it No longer is a good shock for the audience, but rather a cheap writing solution, which Shows that d&d had No Idea how they could end their own Creation in a sensible way.
@Blue Rose and If you really believe that tensions were Always as artificial as in this season, you either weren't paying attention to the previous seasons or you are Just unable to follow the plot. Btw i really Hope you are Not one of those easy to please npcs that think every upset Fan ist a Troll or an retard, as you somewhat implied with your "Reeee" sentence.
And the most disappointing thing is that they were given an extra year for this season and offered the extra episodes but declined them, They have clearly given up by this point
@hayley s She didn't even finish her training, she got beat up a few times with a stick, And the writing for the braavos scene were terrible let's be honest
I think it'd be more like if at the climax of the Battle of Hogwarts, when Voldemort and Harry are about to face off, Hermione creeps up behind Voldemort and Avada Kedavras him in the back.
AJMaths she did finish her training. J’aqen (however you spell it) explicitly stated that she had completed her training. I’m pretty sure the exact quote is “a girl is finally no one”. Just because we didn’t see her fight with the Waif doesn’t mean it wasn’t a sick fight.
@@patrickgogan3517, but there is some kind of logic. Somehow the Wights are no longer flammable. Poor dead Ned Umber was still highly flammable. But when they smothered the flames in the burning trnech with their once highly flammable bodies, I knew that Melisandre would not be of much help, if she would light them. They have also boosted their strength and could break through stone. Before that they could be imprissond in a wooden box... In D&D's minds this _is_ logic.
I always liked the idea that winterfell falls to the dead. Then they retreat to KL and cersie refuses to let them in. Then they send in a strike force of jaime, bronn, arya, sandor, grey worm, and some red shirts who infiltrate the city. Arya helps sandor kill the mountain and jaime kills cersie. Then they the WW's come down and attack and all hell breaks loose.
Yeah, they're totally going to march for a month to King's Landing under the pending threat of an undead invasion- to deal with a monarch who, up until the last fucking day, was assumed to be joining forces. And then march back? Or lose half the kingdom? Grow a brain, please.
@@pulz1443 March for a MONTH? Post season 4? You're the one who needs a brain, they just bloody teleport at this point. Winterfell SHOULD have fallen, the survivors running south and east. Some going to the twins (what was the point of killing the Freys if we never see them again?), some going to The Neck, where we meet Howland Reed (remember that guy and Meera Reed?). That is the perfect moment to confirm Sam and Bran's story, an eye witness and Lord who was there at the tower of joy. You then have Cersei marching North but as a big battle happens the undead swoop in and we finally have a three way fight, the south realising the threat is real and uniting to stand against the dead. You have Jon finally battling the Night King. This at least ties threads together.
@@aaronweers8697 Ye I agree with this guy. The thing which has been built up with for the White Walkers since series 1 is that the entire realm has to unite against them if they want to take them out. Imagine you have the tension between Jon and Dany and the complete ignorance of Cersei happening and then boom, Night King. I always imagined it would happen like that with Dany and Cersei being killed, Jon Snow defeating the Night's King (and then refusing the throne and living beyond the wall as a watcher of the North or something) and only a small ragtag group of people surviving to set up a new government in Westeros under Tyrion's leadership (the survivors probably being Sansa, Davos, Sam and Gendry).
@@pulz1443 I was just trying to summarize an idea that I heard on RUclips. The idea was that they fall back and keep falling back because the dead grow stronger and stronger. Then they make a final stand at KL which is kinda like the "heart" of Westeros and all the political intrigue. Also cheers to being that one guy who always has to add personal insults instead of just a good counter.
So my prediction of the everything works out ending was proven completely wrong. I assumed that would be the ending because nothing was being built or set up to go in a different direction. Silly me, it's my fault for being naive. I spent this whole video complaining about how D&D don't care about properly setting things up, I should have expected a completely out of nowhere left turn into crazy town. Part 2 now out! ruclips.net/video/wuiNRpeqg3A/видео.html
They fucked up the whole series with the last season. Is it the weight of living up to the expectation that they messed up so bad?!
I honestly don't know what they are planning with just a single episode left and not much more to cover as there is no main enemy anymore, going to be a slow episode for sure with a lot of back stabbing and probably set ups for spin off series to come
congratulations for your first 1 million video! May it be the first of many :D
Definitely make another video, I'd be very interested on your updated thoughts after episode 5. Great content!
@@blueguy136 Ehm, Deanerys is the main enemy now...
HBO: what do we say to a good ending?
D&D: not today
Despacito
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When the campaign ends
Sealdrop lmao greatest comment ever 😂😂😂
HBO: what do we say to a good ending?
D&D: I don't want it!
Joffrey Baratheon was the lead antagonist longer than the Night King
And his death was a better use of subverting expectations.
And Walder Frey killed more people
@@greenkidd529 Because it was in the books.
When was the night king ever the main antagonist?
ED2 09 he did kill a lot of unsullied and basically all of the northern meant and Dothraki
Imagine gathering the best fighters in Westeros, giving them all Valerian steel swords, then not having a single White Walker vs 'hero' duel.
Jay E not one! All that build up for nothing!
That would be even worse. No one wants your shitty bad guy vs traditional hero fight
Entertainment today tries to steer clear of anything actually cool. A sword fight between a hero and a white walker would be awesome, but might hurt women's feelings because they could never be as badass as a man. So creators now just "subvert expectations", also known as lazy writing.
@@johnlungo8080 But Brienne has a valyrian sword so she is a woman who can have that fight. And Arya still could have killed the NK when he is fighting another character, assassin style. And we could have had a WW in the crypt where Varys sacrifices himself so Tyrion and Sansa could have an opportunity to kill him. The writters are just bad
But why would a White Walker engage in combat? Can you give me ONE logical reason why you, as a White Walker, would risk your life (and the unlives of your wights) in a duel?
Same with NK and Jon. NK could lose everything he's worked for the last x years to some raggy-haired hobo with a sword.
i love how smug the writers look thinking that they wrote a masterpiece
True... And it wasn't even their own idea.
I'm angry that they get a Star Wars trilogy.. given how the sequels and GoT S8 went.
AdamBlueification they were fired
@@casualslothtv If you are a star wars fan then you have plenty already to be angry at.
yeah those after episode interview things were so painful, they were talking about their work in the third person as if they were fans of it, "I think jon did this for this reason and whats really interesting about that is...." was how they would talk lol, they both have very, very punchable faces.
“They defeated Satan and I’m supposed to care who gets elected President afterwards..”
- Some RUclipsr whose name I can’t remember
Nerdrotic I believe, and I couldn’t have put it better myself
Asks me Q! Yes. That’s the guy. Thank you.
Dude I feel you. I'm still seething. All while trying to pretend that the outline in my head is the real canon.
Nerdrotic said that
It was like the Muller report, years of build up for a big nothing burger, and it cost million to produce.
Daenerys: We must attack King's Landing now!
Everyone else: Why?
Daenerys: Because we only have two episodes left!
to be fair that is a pretty good reason.
the real question is why go to kings landing by boat when euron and the iron fleet is around why not just move on land or better yet how do you even forget that the iron fleet exist.
daenerys: because the writers say we have to and because the writers say i forgot.
-We have two options, we go by land where we have some disadvantage since a big chunk of our army is gone or we go by sea, were we have a massive disadvantage even with a full army since they have the fucking Iron Fleet waiting for us somewhere on the way.
-Hmmmm... To the boats.
@@Mr.Sax. Because Tyrion thinks he is smart and devises the brilliant(retarded) plans that always fail. If it wasn't for Tyrion, Danny could have defeated Kings landing with 3 alive dragons a few seasons ago giving them tons of more allies and resources to fight the Night King, but instead the little imp drove her crazy with his constant failed (brilliant) plans and now she looks like the bad guy. I can't wait till Tyrion dies.
@@FearRua Tyrion dumb, sure. The writers are the dumb ones for making such smart characters like Tyrion or Lord Bayless make such bold moves in the last seasons.
Don't ever make such statement again before thinking.
@@Mr.Sax. Dani is not cruel the writers make her cruel. John Snow is not brave the writers make him act brave. Are you even reading what you are saying?
If a characters was smart it was the writers who made him smart in the first plays.
Me 6 years ago: GoT is the best series ever because unlike the other series, they adapt the story off a book, and don't pull it out their asses like other series do.
Me now: For fuck's sake
Because there is no more written book so they have to pull it out of their asses :(
See this is the difference between game of thrones and the lord of the rings which was mentioned in the video. The lord of the rings books have been out for years and years and they took the material (God bless Peter Jackson) and made the movies which are pretty good even by casual viewer standards. GRRM has been bullshitting for a while not getting the books out and look what happens. After they ran out of book material the show has basically gone to shit. The braindead morons writing the stuff are throwing shit at the wall and trying to see what sticks and nothing is
Fuck the book. You wanna be meister ?or something? Read about the achievements of other men? I rather watch it
They are running out of ideas and want cashgrabs where ever they find it. Song of ice and fire successful? Let's take it and rape it for money, and not wait till it's done like Lord of the Rings.
Agreed. I spent 9 years watching the whole series numerous time. Love the characters. Love GOT. Then usurpers D&D RUINED IT ALL!!!!
This is like the hundredth video I've watched of people explaining how they would've resolved the conflict with the NK, with Cersei and Dany, etc and all of them are way more SENSIBLE AND LOGICAL THAN WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
and yet the 1% still rules. people are angry exactly because they ruin someone who was supposed to change the world and break the wheels. these stupid for profit shows aren't sincere after all
@@lyrilljackson yeah Hollywood ruins art. Its a sad fact.
The screen is dark and the script is full of errors.
Made me laugh out loud
Ybinn2 lmaooooo!,!,
XD
The best joke about Game of Thrones I’ve seen in a while. Good job, man.
nice
1 Random undead can hear a drop of Ayra's blood hitting the floor.
10+ whites 100s of undead and 1 Night king can't hear a yelling running/jumping Arya.
*ALL IN THE SAME EPISODE*
This girl was not making any noise. 😁
Rick, can you take to a dimension where te Night King kills Arya in that episode?
She was almost definitely guised as a wight.... Dur. They definitely should have showed that, though.
The white walkers turned their heads before she attacked the Night King. This means they heard her, but she was too fast for them to react to in time. There goes your theory. Now was the show stupid or are you just upset that Jon didn't kill the Night King?
@@ericstaples7220 it was stupid. Personally I've been counting down to King's Landing. Whether it was going to be Cersei coming out on top, or if Jaime or Tyrion put a stop to her, all against a backdrop of Arya returning from a place of strength to resolve her arc and avenge the life she was thrown out of. Perhaps even destroying Tyrion and Jaime you never know...
Season 7 finale was unintentionally hilarious and I think lessened my enthusiasm, they went the way they did I wouldn't say it bothers me it's just anticlimactic.
This is PROOF that literally ANYONE could have written a better story for S8E3 than D&D.
It's not even their Story. Couldn't thsy just go to George to ask him for help?.
I actually read a "leaked script" 2 years ago that was tons better than this crap
@@TomyBinho I believe you.
And anyone who is a No One with No One parents with zero force training can become a Jedi. Arya is lightyears better than Rey mind you but this whole well Jon Snow was important but we want to have Arya be our Rey (it was cool though but...) just for a twist is out of a Last Jedi playbook. When was the last good significant kill Jon Snow made? He punched Ramsay out, has a few stare downs with the Night King and his dragon. Maybe Jon Snow truly does know nothing cause it seems apart from brooding diplomacy he does what?
Cersei should have been resolved in Season 7. Season 8 should have been the battle against the apocalypse.
My big issue is that Jon Snow should've killed the Night King while Arya should've killed Cersei. Jon is connected to the Night King more than Arya. Arya killing the Night King doesn't make much sense. But at the same time Arya needs a big moment for her development in this season. Killing the Night King didn't develop the character. Killing Cersei would have. Arya got nothing out of this season even if she is the real hero.
@@Mason-kd2zr I can't say I disagree with any of that.
Exactly! At least bring the NK and the army of dead to the South... for the love of God!
@@chrismassalas Yeah, make his character and that conflict that's been building actually mean something, instead of brushing it aside as if it was nothing more than a minor annoyance.
@@Mason-kd2zr I hoped Jaime was the one who killed Cersei 😔
Imagine Hermione kills Voldemort in the sixth book. The final of the 7th book is how Harry tries to win the Quidditch Cup against the evil Slytherin. Season 8 GoT.
Hahahah omg spot on.
stop stealing comments lmao
@David Kinney well, I'd prefer a good written general story over a bad new one.
@David Kinney yes, my opinion doesn't add anything, just like you saying GoT is good because it's a new type of story doesn't add anything to the matter of the bad execution of the said story.
@David Kinney I don't really see any analysis, all you said was that GoT doesn't have a specific lead character. This fact doesn't make it good or bad, that's true. But then you went on saying "How about we try something new?", which has a positive undertone to it, which in turn implies you think of this 'new' stuff as good. So this basically means that you stated a subjective view that doesn't add to anything.
Thats like killing voldemort in harry potter and then the next movie is about who wins the house cup
hey at least that would be fun to watch, i mean sure gryffindor would have a heavy advantage from the thousand points given to Harry for Killing Voldemort.
Exactly.
I'd say more, they killed ole Tom Riddle. then every panics because a Troll was last seen in the girls bathroom.
spot on comparison
stephen hawkins yeah
I'm impressed at how good your alternative storyline is, but then again literally every alternative storyline I've heard for this episode has been better than what they actually went with.
You uh. You got a point here
Low bars, and all that.
They are just dues ex machina everything. Arya's teleports out of no where for the kill and half their army was still alive the next episode even though it looked like everyone died. If they remove the dues ex machina and make a normal consistent it is all fixed. Arya fights her way through the army to get to the night king(maybe with some help of other main characters?) and the army acts intelligently so half of them survive. The story is fine like that.
@@Lilitha11 This isn't even a deus ex machina thing anymore. This is a Chaos ex machina, aka nonsense.
Night King: No man can kill me. Theon: *Drops trousers* I am no man!
lol
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Looool that's brutal
This still would’ve made more sense than MarySue Stark!!!
Remember they say that the Valyrian word is basically *”gender neutral”* or can be used for both female or male description?
Well... what if that Valyrian word was *”neutral,”* because the _Azor mf Ahai_ was *”NEUTERED?!”* 😱🤣
Still makes WAY more sense than _deus ex Stark’ina getting “the kill”!!_ 🤦♀️
Funny how The Mountain was harder to kill and pretty much impossible but the Night King? LOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL
Mountain is not vulnerable to Valyrian Steel or dragon glass.
Mountain was made to feel no pain by Qybern.
Hound went head on, without stealth, declaring a duel.
Of course it's going to be difficult when it's a match of strength.
Pranav Kulkarni Yeah I already got that, my comment was comical with intentional lack of detail due to whats been of season 8 lately; along with the fact that there should have been prolonged screen time for killing the night king imo that way the satisfaction of his death could have been greater.
@@Shaambum it was alright in my opinion. People would have had a problem no matter how he would have died. A prolonged battle with the Azor Ahai and finally killing the Night King like how the mountain kills Oberyn Martell would've been fan service. The show has a strong history of not giving the fans what they want. No reason why that should be so surprising now.
Pranav Kulkarni it’s true they never do thats why i kind of already knew Daenayrs wouldn’t have the journey we all wanted as thats just too much of a happy ending. Its not surprising. To be honest I wasn’t that disappointed by how the death of the NK played out, I just think it could have been a little more prolonged thats all.
@@Shaambum lol I can go all you're wrong hurr durr but I'll take the high road since you did too. I've had some mad debates about the episodes 😅
I was satisfied with the 3rd episode but the 4 one was garbage.
I went from chomping at the bit for every episode and waiting anxiously for two years to not caring in about ten minutes. That's really impressive honestly.
My sentiment exactly. The last 3 episodes don't even feel important to me
@@princecharming69 the whole point was to show how pointless all the power struggles were. The night King is the main antagonist. Not cersei. Cersei is just a secondary annoyance by comparison. Fuck these writers. They made the night King a joke.
I admire you for being able to stay invested for that long. I starting tuning out halfway through season 4, season 5 being the nail on the head.
I just watch it now to laugh at their incompetence.
Havent watched EP4 yet, don't feel like it now
@@Grandmaster-Kush It's much worse. If you can believe that.
It's like voldmort got defeated in sixth movie and Harry Potter is now in finale with whose gonna win quidditch match😂😂
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Seven and a half seasons in and you've failed to grasp that this is a show about the power struggles between rival families. The threat from the White Walkers has always always always been a sub plot. An amorphous background threat that the humans ignore whilst they plot and scheme against each other. It's ultimately a commentary on human nature and our self destructive nature.
Yes
@@aidanmagill6769 No. The whole point of the books and seasons is to show the futility of war and bickering. We got so many shots of burnt fields with the Hound and Arya as Winter approached. So much wasted food, resources and men. Ever since season 4 it's been fan service at the expense of the plot.
Aidan Magill I wonder how many more ‘This series has been awful for 4 seasons, but somehow I still watch it/know it like the back of my hand and am taking the time out of my day to make a video about it’ there will be before the series ends?
Cersei was a pretty important character , the fact that they killed her in rubble without any interaction with Dany is disgusting.
Maybe the Azor Ahai was the friendship we all made along the way
*ANIME MUSIC PLAYS LOUDLY*
On a cruise.
We are!
Mind = Blown.
nah they said there would be snacks and booze
Perfection.
Maybe the good guys can have a dinner together at king,'s landing in the end!
The death of cersei should've been season 7 when dany had an army and 3 dragon and this SEASON SHOULD'VE BEEN THE NIGHT KING SEASON THE GREAT WAR SEASON
Exactly
Yes! It always felt like too little time for a good resolution of the NK threat.. But they solved it the easy way. :(
Can't wait for the book..
nah i think the other way around, because the whole point is who ends up on the iron throne, and it was never going to be the night king, but they should of made the battle for against night king the whole of season 7 and then boom more time for season 8 to really see who ends up with the throne, but i guess that hows the books goes.
I totally agree but sadly the show is called Game of thrones and not The Winter wars.
Dumb and Dumber oh we planned arya killing the night king for 3 seasons now OH THAT BULLSHIT STORYWISE IT SHOULD'VE BEEN JON THAT KILLED THE NIGHT KING. AND ALOT OF HUGE NAME CHARACTERS SHOULDVE DIED ESPECIALLY SAM
S1 W
S2 I
S3 N
S4 T
S5 E
S6 R IS
S7 COMIN
S8 G... AND IT'S GONE
Jurchen Chan brilliant..just brilliant 😂
Season 8: Winter.exe has stopped working.
Why season 8 fails... George R.R. Martin wasn’t involved
@0 Subscribers Without Videos Do you have proof of what you say. That it is his ending? Because if push came to shove I could pull up clips of him stating how he became less involved over the seasons, and that he had an agreement from the start that they could take it in any direction they wanted.
He writes slow + gets easily distracted + takes on too much work = this has been his thing for decades. So if you are just finding him from the show just know we readers have been tortured for decades.
0 Subscribers Without Videos you will have to link this because just a few months ago GRR said the book will be different
@0 Subscribers Without Videos thanks.
ckhawk00 True, but there also just seemed to be a lack of care: the coffee cups/water bottle left in final shots, telling archers “Fire!” Instead of “Loose!,” Gendry calling himself the wrong bastard name, the plot armor, the abandonment of many plot lines, characters contradicting or not acting like themselves, etc.
It’s not that George wasn’t involved. Why it failed is because George didn’t already write it for them and they just adapt it to TV. That’s the reason the first few seasons were good.
going from Martin Scorcese to Michael Bay in 3 seasons.
going from Quentin Tarantino to Tommy Wiseau in 3 seasons.
Ha! Sad but true.
Ian B tommy wiseau 😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Oh hi jon”
Ian B HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Its funny because it's true
Can we just edit together a brand new season? There's got to be enough footage from all the seasons to fix this mess ✔
I'm legitimately just going to pretend that this season was a vision that Bran had of a possible future, and I'm going to write my own scripts about how it ended and consider it canon. Because this is like watching bad fan fiction as it is. No way can mine be worse.
RamB0T dude! Yeah!! There’s gotta be sone way to improve it.
My firm opinion is that film makers should listen to fans when they write storylines. Multiple people are smarter than just two, especially when the show is this big with so many characters and character arcs. But nooooooope they had to try to be the smart guy. Spoiler alert: it hasn't worked out well so far.
i hope when George R. R. Martin finishes his book he ends it the way he wanted to.
I wish the real plot twist is that they are just pulling our leg and there is a better final season written by really good writers. Oh, boy.
Literally everyone's alternative episode is better than the actual episode.
And that always makes me think
What kind of a retarded D&D are???
@@MohammadAli-iz9ld they are hacks who merely thrive in the politics of film industry, hence they got to do the writing despite their lack of aptitude in it.
I thought the NK was going to Kingslanding convincing the golden company join the fight
@@andrewmartin5029 he wouldnt convince them he would just slaughter them
@@zonipoi I heard from someone they didn't wanna continue Game of Thrones because they got bored with it but what the fuck does this show for anything they will make in the future?
When you hear a writer say, "I *think* the character feels this way..."
Shouldn't you *know*?
Or saying that Dany "forgot about the iron fleet" when at some point in the episode before it somewhere she was told about the iron fleet. She's either really bad with her memory or they wrote themselves into a corner and shit the bed when it came to making sense if it
D&D: You know nothing! And you ruined it all in the end. Shame!!
No no no. The actor should know, not the writers. As displayed by what Marvel has done. Half the marvel scripts are improv these days. I hope the writers learned a lesson here that they take with them to star wars. The directors of the star wars reboot made the same mistake. Listen to your actors. They are the character.
@@Mason-kd2zr this coming from one of the writers and directors of X-Men Origins: Wolverine and decided to change deadpool into the opposite of the 'Merc with the Mouth' Honestly D&D do better when they are working with someone who can take the lead or they become nearly assistant directors and assistant writers. If they had more source material, maybe it could've been better. But with every year they took more liberties and burned so many plot lines that it's not surprising the show became swiss cheese. Like I could see more holes in the past few seasons than their are in two full games of Golf!
(Tbh, I wish someone would throw rotten tomatoes and feces on them for the next ten years whenever they go into public, but that's what I think they deserve)
@@TheBeastr So if they didn't direct it, it would've been better? That's pretty obvious.
The wall was built to protect the night king from bad writing
Sasuke Uchiha 😂😂😂😂
that really made me laugh
Poor guy, he didnt know
Bad writing? Anyone who says this season is suffering from bad writing is just repeating what they've read online.
Nemo Odinson David Benioff, who wrote this season is the same writer from xmen origins let that sink in.
The actors did a good job it was the writer's and producers who dropped the ball
nah the actors were not that great, we didnt spend any time with them to actually see them act. Tey were all just looking terrified.
Finn Feaver I mean why you get a script that I’m sure just said *a battle ensues* and a director that just yelled “YES BE SCARED YOURE GONNE BE OVER RUN AND DIE YOURE TERRIFIED” what else can ya do?
they could've redeemed 8-3 with one small edit.
Just as the NK catches Arya, Bran grabs NK's by the arm.
Then Arya finishes him. That would've changed everything.
It wouldn't be the best resolution, don't get me wrong, but it at least wouldn't be the sack of sh!t it currently is.
@@jeupater1429 mmm just like very small additions in ep 4 could have stopped the ball at least one inch from the floor
Yes the actors works very hard they did a great job working out in the cold for all those nights I think the actors deserve some recognition
Thank you, D&D
THAT IS the way you get people to read the books.
I was never planning on reading the books, figuring that I'd get everything I needed out of the show and going back through the same plotlines would just be tedious. Then season 8 started airing and suddenly I'm very excited to go read the books so I can get back to what I love most about game of thrones: well planned stories with well developed characters
Til Merkan
I think they just inspired George to actually finish them.
@@joeybulford5266 or they gave George a heart attack after watching that and now he'll never be able to finish the books.
@@spacehooliganzack7429 They are great, you wont be disappointed.
FUCK THE BOOKS!
I don't really hate the books, but you fuckong low-life nerds are getting on my nerves
LOL! The "Arya teleports behind you, nothing personal kid" had me choking on my water. :'D
The dotrakis "decimated" yet they seems like thousands in episode 5
They might had been like 50 TBH and anyways I'm glad they are here. They fixed their stupid mistake from episode 3
Decimated means to kill one out of ten...which would mean that nine out of ten are still alive. Not that I disagree that common sense was sacrificed for the purposes of a good visual, but words do have meanings.
TCS4680 True. Words do have meanings. Sometimes some words have multiple meanings such as decimate. It also means to destroy a large portion (which is applicable to the context used in the original comment). Most recently another definition is to completely wipe out, but that’s not important seen as episode 5 proves the dothraki situation is best described by the second meaning of the word I listed.
@Knasterreal1 no only a few survived, those that came back. all dothrakis was used in the initial charged since they are an cavalry unit, they dont fight on foot. also when they pan the cam above winterfell almost no defenders left at all.
meanwhile the 20,000 soldiers of the golden company were about 250
16:46
Night King: "No man can kill me"
Theon: "I am no man"
I understood that reference😂
lol, hilarious. Love it. HA!
I remember that from another series
That would had been great or have Cerise rule as queen of the ashes and final shot with her sitting on the throne like the ending of Conan.
Oh wow.
Remember when George Lucas had R2D2 kill Darth Vader at the start of RotJ just to subvert the audiences expectations? Me neither.
Arya is R2D2 to me. Good analogy.
Kamal ThataTurk
Pretty fucking funny trying to imagine that playing out lmao.
Well, Benioff may be allowed to reboot the SW series soon, and already noted your suggestion...
Remember when George Lucas ruined the entire franchise with episodes 1-3? The original Star Wars were only good because of George Lucas being on a leash.
Revenge of the Sith was good. I think 1 and 2 are shit.
Also, the Night King can be murdered with Valyrian steel because it's made of dragonfire, but not by actual dragonfire?
ruclips.net/video/k7m6HP95EDM/видео.html
He has good explanation
It's not just valyrian steel. it's the same dagger pushed into him by the children of the forest from which he was made a white walker.
But getting Arya to do it? Yeah, that was completely a cunt brothers move. Doing something not because it makes senses, but because it subverts expectations!
@@HVBRSoF no it's not the same dagger.
Jao Romero they stabbed him with dragonglass, not a dagger. Also, valyrian steel is a mix of steel, dragonfire and dragonglass alike. Still weird ill admit. Either have him die from dragonfire or dont blast him with it in the first place
@@Chemtekmain Was the recipe for valyrian steel ever actually revealed?
S1: winter is coming
S2: winter is coming
S3: winter is coming
S4: winter is cooming!
S5: winter is coooming!!!
S6: winter is coooominnggg!!!
S7: winter is coooooominggg!!!!!
S8: winter is here, and it's gone, bottoms up, let's move on
Benioff and Weiss kept on diverging from the books and also were trying increasingly more to write the story in order to please the audience rather than to follow to coherent plot laid out since the start. Sadly you can see this increasing with each episode of seasons seven and eight. It's kind of sad because the producers choked at the end when they had all the resources required in order to deliver (funds, directors, and actors)... D&D did their best not to kill off favorite characters to avoid disappointing some of the audience, in the end, it feels fake in GOT standards. D&D should have tried at all costs to remain coherent with the narrative laid out since the onset (which comes from the books). Put differently it feels like after reading the first four books you got to read Winds of Winter written this time by completely other authors...
actually winter as a season is still here dumb-dumb
Then by all mean, yes, please do.
I feel this whole seaeon should be vs the night king and a season 9 for the king landing storyline
Stefano Disperati just because those shithead writers wanted to be smarter than RUclips GOT THEORISTS.
Actually, I'll just say how to fix that premature ending...is to have the Night King divide his forces and take half of it South and screw with Cercei, which was something I wanted to see, but was disappointed that wasn't what happened.
It would make perfect sense to just put a siege on Winterfell and march south. As long as dead have something to counter dragons (those javelins from s6 + constant cloudy blizzard spell could work) they have no reason to assault the walls where they can be killed 1000 zombies for one dude on a wall. All the while living would never meet them in the field, staying mostly in the castle with only some raids out. This is what I think happens in the books. Winterfell has a year long siege with different magical or covert dangers, while defenders also try to somehow get to the whites to break siege. Supplies will not last them for whole winter. Meanwhile main force of the dead attacks unprepared (ravaged by civil wars) south.
Probably have a single Wight left behind to capture Bran as the general of the undead force while the Night King and the rest go south. Wouldn't be that bad if it was that Wight that killed Theon or was killed by Arya. Cercie has ballistae for live dragons, but it would have been nice to see them used uselessly on the Night King's dragon.
Ghostwalker2061 better yet, as Doomcock said, he should’ve bypassed Winterfell completely. That would’ve been ‘subverting expectations’ in a good way. We would’ve been expecting a giant throwdown at winterfell only for the Night king to blitz right past and march down South without so much as a blink in Jon’s direction. The defenders would be thrown into complete confusion as they now have to quickly prepare for a pursuit after literally digging themselves into a defensive hole.
I like that idea... that the episode would end with Jon asking Bran, where is the Night King?
@@SultanOfAwesomeness Especially when you consider the fact that the NK doesn't need castles, towns or other man made structures and/or resources that humans rely on, all he needs is corpses, and there are plenty of them to be found down south.
also why did they make it seem like jaime was in love with brienne if he was just going to go and die with cersei
Exactly my point
dRaMa
TO SUBVERT YOUR EXPECTIONS LMAO
The same reason Jaime said he doesn't care about innocent people in King's Landing after killing his own king to protect the innocent people of King's Landing. Because D&D are hack writers who can't keep their characters even remotely consistent.
Because beds are cold at night in the North? There was zero sexual chemistry between them.
They rushed it... that's why. They should have had 10 episodes. By rushing it, they created plot holes.
Not only plot holes.. Terrible battle strategies, people do stupid things, nothing is explained, wayy to many cuts, knight king is dead in only one episode, half the army somehow survives, plot armor, seems like people are about to die but no and scorps lost 100% from ep 4-5...
i can tell you much more, but you know there is much more. Because the show is so bad that everybody can see every mistake they make, even if it's just a starbucks cup
@@augustlavdal6187 yeah and that is created by the bad pacing. We on the same page my dude
EL CHAPO how does it feel that HBO offered them more budget for episodes and the writers said naaaaa were good 👍🏻
@@rickfrompawnstars5550 I know man... they fucked up
Even winter in Egypt lasted longer than In GOT
I can personally attest to that.
It was the nk Who brought the winter
You realize just cuz the NK is dead doesn't mean winter is over
@@juliogu5437 You should go to school
Egypt: seven months winter
Westeros: seven episodes winter
Game of thrones is generic tv at this point, I'm glad its ending.
What you aren't excited for the 12 spinoffs off?! lol
I wouldn't even pirate it.
Me too, at this point I wouldn’t be able to be invested in another season
It should have ended two years ago.
@@TonySharkks Dumb and Dumber subverted away any hope for spin off's with their handling of the walkers no its reboot time and when it is inevitably rebooted i hope its in a animated format so it can actually be accurate to the books that and voice actors don't have the giant egos that have to be stroked like regular actors.
John in S8 ep2: "We can't beat them in a straight fight"
S8 ep3: Doathraki charge straight into them
Dumb and Dumber really wrecked the show. If I were RR Martin, I'd be depressed.
Mary Hill he is depressed. He says he wished there were more seasons 😢
It's a crying shame that fans can put more thought into the story line in 25 minutes, than D&D did in 2 years.
@0Riam0 I see your point...
@@aura2367 I completely understand.
Ýou have a BIG EGO madam and you need to wake up to reality!!!
What qualifies you to say about Dan and David,the are dumb and dumber!?
Just because your EGO was not full filled,it dosen't mean that season 8 is not brilliant!
What did Arya jump off of?
Literally nothing.
Dragon threw her. Duh?
She can teleport
One of the shit loads of trees in the godswood.
A frickin metal podium, no really.
Probably made a mini trampoline out of walder Frey's stretched face.
If Cersei is really dead we waited 10 years for the 3rd most hated TV character to die to a ceiling
She brought the house down with that ending.
I hate her character but that death was unworthy. Her whole arc was staring out of a window for this season
Ceiling was the best character in the series. Killed cercie lannister who was basically the main villain since the night king died so quickly. The ceiling is my favourite character ever.
Who are the first two characters that you hate more than Cersei??
@@SagarsDeck Joffrey and Ramsay
what i would have wanted to see
1- Arya tries to kill Jamie using one of her faces, only to have Bran stop her.
2- Jamie asks Bran why Tommen committed suicide and to learn the bitter truth. This where Bran's reply of "the things I do for love." better comes into play.
3- A cruel and bitter death for Cersei
4- the Golden Company being more than just a handful of extras
5- have the Night King the final battle
6- have Jon Snow being Aegon Targaryen actually mean something
and that's just to start
It's extremely cringy to watch the double D's talk about the show.
Like how Dany "forgot" Euron's fleet existed? They really are a couple of hacks, aren't they?
@@vegasgirl3538 I KNOW, "she forgot about his fleet" the whole point of them going there was to destroy his fleet and surround the city. Nevermind the conversation they had 5 min before that happened about defeating his fleet and starving the town. The fleet was her main enemy "whoopsie I forgot"
It’s because of how *EASILY* they *LIE* and think that we’ll just continue to swallow their badly-written *BULLSHIT* !
Yup the real Dumb and Dumber.
They are clearly deeply satisfied with themselves
Credit to whoever posted this comment elsewhere, but killing the Night King in one episode would have been like Gimli smashing the ring with his ax in Rivendell.
The white walkers not even fighting would be like ringwraiths never fought. They are basically the same thing as the white walkers, the generals and body guard sort of thing.
No, you have to get right to the end before you make large sections of the plot pointless. So, instead of Gollum stealing the Ring and falling into the lava, Galadriel appears out of nowhere, "I'll take that Frodo. You were right. I should have taken the responsibility, rather than leaving it to some poor mortal with no way to protect himself." Gollum, tries to steal the ring. Galadriel immediately disables him and she casually tosses the ring into the fires of Mount Doom. She then teleports everyone to safety. Divorces her husband, whose lack of confidence in her had stopped her from taking the Ring in the first place, cock punts Aragorn and rules the world with Arwen and Éowyn as a polyamorous family. Everybody lives happily ever after.
Killing him in one episode could have worked, if it wasn't such an anti-climactic battle? Literally took 5 seconds from when Arya attacked him to him dying. He definitely died like a bitch.
Dude, I think that was my comment from another video! Probably on Mauler's channel. I think I said it is like Gimli smashing the ring in Rivendell and Denethor is the final boss xD
I don't know, it might have been or someone has the same mind as me. I have been watching videos of this season all week trying to make sense of it all to no avail.
No.
Dexter: The worst final season of any show ever...
Game Of Thrones: Hold my sour goats milk
Sean Mulvihill haha, same thoughts ! xD Dexter, gosh that beard! nooo :D
GOT: Hold my Giant Milk.
the end of dexter was awesom
@@anassmouradi90 not the one I watched. Even Dexter himself would come out from wherever he is hiding only to dislike your comment😒
C'mon.. we all know that's the way Dexter would end since when Deb got to know about Dex... It's a good ending...
The way things DID happen, the south can just keep on denying that the night king ever existed >.
And all the masters was correct. It wasnt a huge threat anyway
Okay I know I’m triple-dipping on comments here. But I also wanted Theon to kill the NK.
I legit thought that Theon would use his extreme pain tolerance developed as Reek to pull the spear out of him and kill the NK from behind.
Ramsay would have inadvertently saved the world because of the carnage he inflicted on Theon. Nice.
:O
Ramsay was Azor Ahai and The Prince who was Promised and Theon is Lightbringer!
I thought Bran would warg into him to make him ignore pain and live just long enough to backstab the NK. Also, Arya survived a similar wound just fine, inflicted by the Waif. Arya also happened to kill the NK out of nowhere. HMMMMMM.
That would've really cool actually. Another easy way they could've redeemed 8-3 with one small edit is ...
Just as the NK catches Arya, Bran grabs NK by the arm. (mimicking him)
Then Arya finishes him. That would've changed everything.
It wouldn't be the best resolution, don't get me wrong, but it at least wouldn't be the sack of sh!t it currently is.
Me too, it would've fit Theon's character well to at least get up again once more
yea me too actually.. thought was gonna get up after that stab for one last attempt
GOT: our battle scenes are longer than yours
LOTR: *at least we can see ours*
How can you even compare LOTR with this shit, you should be ashamed.
Also LOTR : atleast ours are good and make sense
@@OnigoroshiZero your right I apologize
@@hotemotoaster8712 You literally apologized. I can't 😂😂😂
But I would have done the same lmao
Creepy Freek oooohhhhh!
"Does that mean Dany's crazy too?"
Episode 5: hmmm
Noah Scott yes
😂
@@PombaAbusada jesus christ😂
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"the Knight king wants to erase this world and I am it's memory" "that's stupid". Thank you!!
Oh wow, I wasn't expecting this from this channel, very nice!
Meanwhile there is Samwell, a character that spent the whole time crying on the floor, survives just to tell us that he's retiring with his pregnant girlfriend.
What a hero. /sarcasm
Mia
I really like Sam but damn... do I hate his plot armor.
he's a pussy now
@@balabanasireti he doesn't really have plot armor... he could've died in that battle and changed nothing. xD
Phong Pham he always was
not everyone has to be a hero. some people just save their skin and honestly, that's what i would do
D&D ruined game of thrones :(
D&D ruined it all. D&D betrayed us all. D&D failed them all!
@@chrismassalas ???????????
And their careers I would imagine. They were already let go from doing star wars because they knew it was gonna bomb because no one is interested in seeing their 'work' anymore.
in the latest episode:
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arya rides through the whole continent to kill the Queen.. and just.. leaves.. after the Hound told her to.
?????
She was too late
If she killed the queen she’d die to.
She realized that she didn’t want to be the hound, she wanted to be herself.
She died anyways lol.
Shit doesn't always go to plan that's the hole god damn motive of this season
To be fair, everyone knows that whatever Sandor Clegane says will happen, it WILL happen. The Hound has never been wrong in his predictions before, so I guess Arya decided that, as long as Cersei dies, it's fine by her... keep in mind that some of the names in her list were crossed off before she ever had a say in the matter.
"I can't carry it for you... but I can CARRY YOU"... what a great scene
Seriously after these last two (make 2 and a half) seasons of game of thrones I dont ever wanna hear people talk about how the show is better than the LOTR trilogy. As a LOTR fan I was almost becoming convinced but I told the game of thrones fan friends just wait to see how GOT concludes first before you compare. And now its safe to say it won't ever surpass the greatness that is the LOTR trilogy.
my gawd I wasn't ready to see that scene in the video just now, I literally teared up over my fucking bran flakes :'D
@@greenkidd529 It had the potential to in the first 3 seasons, but they ran out of books to copy so here we are.
.. if Frodo cant go to the mountain, the mountain must go to the Frodo ...
It's like if Frodo didn't throw the ring in to Mt. Doom... Pippin did it. And he's not even nearby.
Frodo never did, Gollum fell (divine intervenstion really). But I get your point, I am just a Tolkien nerd and have never watched GoT. :D
Michael Carnevale I couldn't have put it better lol xDD
@@00Kuja00 But when Gollum did it, it made sense from the writing and character development before that.
Arye had no character arc/emotional stake in this fight. She was the wrong character to kill the NK.
@@macmcleod1188 What do you mean "but"? I never said it was bad writing, I just made a correction what happened at Mt. Doom.
@@00Kuja00 And in the context of the entire conversation, I said that gollum doing it made sense. It wasn't like pippin appeared from behind a bush and it wasn't like the action didn't follow from what we knew of gollum's character.
Jon and theon taking on the night king together would've been SOO MUCH better.
Agreed. But honestly, almost anything else would have been better.
Omg yes! And then Theon dies during the fighting, not rushing to the NK like an idiot
Yeah and maybe TNK kills Theon after knocking Longclaw out of Jon's hand and is about to kill Jon before Arya tosses him the dagger or, better yet, stabs TNK in the back of the neck paralleling Howland Reed saving Ned
Season 8 should have had the most episodes.
No actually, it should‘ve had at least 2 more seasons
@@ne_yil824 agree. i heard that even hbo wanted got to last until season ten but d&d wanted to rush it so here we are :(
Dungeons and Dragons?
Leehiro David&Dan aka Dumb&Dumber
Biological Failures but I mean what the night king had a weakness, the mountain had no weakness. He wasn’t a white walker.
The worst thing for me is the fact that Bran is really useless. Dude struggled for several seasons to become the 3 eyed raven. It was foreshadowed since season one. He trained forever. I'm sure I wasn't the only one that assumed he was doing it to defeat the Night King. But what did he really do towards that end? Told everybody "hey, I make excellent bait" and then chilled. He's become a really irritating character because all his aloofness comes to nothing. Like if Tony Stark was just as arrogant and egotistical but also really dumb. Now the only role he has really played is to create an unnecessary conflict between Dani and Jon. He's beyond the concerns of men, yet he serves no role outside of them. Dumb!!
I did think it was pretty neat that Bran gave Arya that dagger from season 1 that was meant to kill him and she ended up killing the NK with it. But it would have been better if Arya and Jon together killed NK. She gets caught mid-air and tries to stab him but it won't penetrate his "armor" and Jon flings his sword from like 20 yards away and as NK turns his head it stabs him right in the face...or something. Bran definitely shoulda warged into a dragon or maybe Arya at that point. I mean that might help explain how she got so close. By the time NK sees Bran, Bran looks up with white eyes, the camera zooms in on them and the audience is like "holy shit he's warged!" and then there's Arya behind him. Then she's caught mid-air. Bran de-wargs and Arya tries to stab him and fails. Panic sets in and Aryas choking while she catches a glimpse of Jon and the sword comes flying. That's be cool I think. Most scenes could have been done so much better. Maybe Theon could have first killed an NK possee member which would have distracted the NK and then died shortly after.
What I hate is that Bran's role seems to indicate that he can see "what will happen". So he can just go to screensaver mode, watch some historical porn, and emerge from his visions just before the shit he saw and was predicted - just happens. Wonderful. This arc really really sucks. BRan "checking-out" is one or the top few worst things of this SHIT episode.
I think that we will get back to the Bran NK thing soon. At least if you believe the tweets of the NK actor. Still... they just fucked everything up.
I'm pretty sure Bran's character and powers will be much better developed in the books... if G.R.R.Martin manages to finish them on time
Bran: Use powers to reveal Cersei's battle plans? Nah, wheel chair lore.
Big bwain
@O-Ren Ishii Bruh, he didn't need to see in the future all he had to do was fly some fucking ravens down to kings landing, and eaves drop, or spot the iron fleet sporting scorpions.
But I can tell you about Hodor's backstory and how Ned Stark and Lysa Arryn were both betrayed and who Jon Snow really is. Is that important for you to know?
Bran is selfish. He only cared about himself not getting killed by NK. That is why he helped in that battle.
He's not bran he's the three eyed Raven his entire purpose is to stay out of politics he tells Jon he's egon tagerayan because it gives him drive to fight the night king etc whatever his number one rule is not to get involved in anything else so that's why he didn't do that
Aragorn. Eragon is a book about some kid with a dragon
THANK you.
So, Game of Thrones then?
Davos: What should we do with the plundering and raping Dothraki after the war?
Jon: We have a plan.
That´s islamophobic...for a mysterious reason i can´t get into.
but It's a horde of peace bruh
@@108chapin That´s hate speech. Only the coloreds are allowed that kind of talk.
Everyone : there's a Starbucks coffee cup in front of Dany...
Benioff & Weiss (aka dumb & dumber) : we thought a coffee cup would subvert expectations... And the cup thought it was a great idea...
Savage.
Where was that?
@@valentinjust5870 episode 4
Holy hell you can't even type and you're criticizing professional writers and one of the best-written shows of all time. Just stop watching if you don't like it, and spare us your crybaby bullshit.
@@davemccombs LOL the real credit goes to GRRM for the "best written" story part, not D&D.
Funny how much the quality went down after they started deviating from GRRM’s story. An actual, experienced, talented writer.
@Lisa Maxine start of season 7.
@Lisa Maxine Season 5 was when it started being D&D horseshit.
D&D Biggest Loser. That is for sure!!
An actual, experienced, talented writer...with a track record of not finishing his book series. Have you read his GOT books? I have and the reason why he often doesn't finish them is because he's unusually weak at finding a story arc. This is why the GOT books just meander away into an uninteresting, directionless mess. His one trick is to kill off protagonists. It soon grows old and causes the lack of a story arc because there's no longer a character to follow to a satisfying denouement.
Yup, GRRM is an experienced novelist as well as screen writer.
I love how in season 8 they had D&D after the episode trying to justify terrible writing. Like if you have to say "she kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet", when the Iron Fleet was mentioned within the episode, you suck at writing. If you've got to explain why things make sense after the episode, you've kind of forgot how to write. Imagine watching a movie, and after the credits, the writers start telling you "no, it's not that this doesn't make any sense or doesn't adhere to who the character is, they just kind of forgot". The fact that they did this basically proves that they knew their writing was atrocious and they owed people an explanation of some sort lol.
Why did Dany turn mad?
"She listened to D&D try and defend their writing"
Unusual Mind no if you pay attention it’s been foreshadowed all along
@@washemoamadah4706 Madder than Mad Mick Mc Mad who won last years mad man contest!
@@YouOnlyIiveTwice she was never decent....
Because she has always been a psychopath who only did what was good for her goals and killed everything that was in her way ? And the whole thing to think that everybody just wants to betray you isn't that already a sign to be on the edge of insanity ?
She did lock up her dragons under the assumption they killed one child but why not murder 1000s of innocents even though she already won
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I feel like George R.R. Martin purposely dogged the real ending to these two to hide the book ending
He already said they'd diverge at some points. And there's no way in hell GRRM figured out who'd defeat the Big Bad and conclude the main plot of his entire series in 2016.
is that why so many chapters of the book feature Arya's journey ? it's even more extensive and goes nowhere for even longer than in the show, there's going to be pay off for that, Arya's wolf isn't Shaggydog, George himself has said the major plot points for the ending will be very similar as for the show, that's from the very same quote people draw from when they say 'George said there will be differences' . . . people making up shit & throwing around second hand information like it's fact, it will be done Better in the books, that doesn't mean the big things that occur will actually change. The leader of the White Walkers is Very likely to die to Arya in the books(& ik no leader is revealed yet), that doesn't mean his death will end everything so suddenly as it did in the show, White Walkers are more built up there as a people there & D&D are known to cut out large chunks of things at any opportunity through their time as the GoT showrunners.
@@JohnDoe-xd6yo George himself has made clear there are parts of the show he disagrees with & that the show was cut a lot shorter than it could have & arguably should have been, he's also done things like make a point of releasing a Euron excerpt from the unreleased book to show up show Euron as being sub par shortly following Euron's show appearance, the show is Not faithful to the books & the showrunners pretty categorically have had disagreements with him and gone against his wishes on a number of things, that doesn't mean that he didn't put his best efforts into making it be a faithful representation & being as good as it can possibly be, or that it's not following the major plotpoints he laid down, it's just connecting the dots way too fast & not staying faithful to the journey, there are definite issues, just not the ones people are making of it here.
@@Marcusjnmc The thing about writers like George R. R. Martin or Stephen King is, that they sometimes surprise themselves with what their characters do, because the characters logically react to circumstances. They might have a sketch of what is to happen, but if it doesn't make sense even though they want the story to go certain way, they'll diverge from the initial plan.
That would be genius move!
Season 8 has flushed the entire previous 7 seasons down the toilet
Last season is a 3-day old Soda, goes straight to the toilet. It's unacceptable!!!!
Theon fooking Greyjoy managed to take Winterfell with 15 men and the Night King fails with 1 million WTF
That's because there was no one guarding Winterfell at the time
@〈 Darkling 〉 the knight king's army did pretty much "win" but than arya killed him and the rest died.
P Patrick how did no one see Arya anyways? He’s got like a million soldiers around him and she was able to sneak up on him and then launch a screaming attack.... from 10 feet away :/
That's a really shallow understanding of the whole situation. If you would equate both battles, you haven't been paying attention.
matty205224 you know hes joking right? No? Then you dont understand the situation.
Entire show builds on “the iron throne doesn’t matter” D&D “we should totally make season 8 end focusing on the throne” Genius!
@@niefali It wasnt for him it was Life or Death !!!
niefali literally the opening shot of the show is the walkers, the political stuff was fantastic but the point was that people were focused on that throne and they were wrong to do so due to the bigger threat. Then we have the big realisation in season 7 that the walkers are the real threat and who sits on the throne isn’t important... than D&D decided to beat the WW in a single episode and undo all the work put in focusing on how the throne wasn’t the real important thing
Game of Thrones baby. It's all about the throne.
niefali my point is D&D are shit at writing so I’ll take they are crap at planning out the season as a win 😂 I really don’t understand why they would make it a shorter season, you make more money by stretching it out but they condensed it ruining the story and making hbo less cash...
@@cigh7445 Well it's more like "A Song Of Ice And Fire" so it's not entirely about "who's gonna sit on the throne". Fantasy and darkness take a huge part in the story and constructed some of the important character (Bran, Jon, Daenerys, Jorah, even Arya with that swaping of face/voice/size/body?) The throne is important and a cool story but this is not the only one, and it's hard to believe that anyone would fucking care about fighting for the throne after fighting an army of dead people... You have to give them a purpose to do so, and the only way was to keep the NK alive till he marchs on Kings Landing
Snoke: I will be a dramatically irrelevant villain
Night King: hold my beer
Night King was more relevant and better written, though. We actually saw him arrive, wreak havoc and win on several occasions. Snoke was just there to boss Kylo around for a bit because the writers didn’t develop or explain him properly.
@Ragnarok you missed it. Read it again and think.
@Ragnarok Snoke was someone, how else he got to power? It might be irrelevant to the story but he was someone. Snoke was like the Emperador in the OG, except the Emp served a narrative porpuse, to be the evil guy that wanted to take over the world and to provide a conflict between DV and Luke, his death meant something. His death meant the Anakin came back to the light side of the force and brought "balance" to the force.
What did Snoke death meant for SW? He was, again, a bridge to create conflict between the two protagonist. After Swolo killed him, what happened? Nothing, he just continues being abad guy, in fact, it was being hinted that Swolo might go back to the light side aswel, but after killing Snoke, thats out of the table, there is nothing that can bring Swolo to the light side again.
They killed Snoke for the "mY sUbvErsiON" same thing as with the NK and Danys fall into madness, which had been hinted at for some seasons now, but was poorly excuted.
@Ragnarok how is he made into a nobody? Because he died? He was gonna die eventually right?
@Ragnarok I don't disagree bro
AragoRRRRRn.
Not Eragon, AragoRn. The R is important.
That's probably just his dialect or accent. I'm pretty sure he knows how the name is spelled.
Was scrolling through specifically to find this correction. Thank you 🙏🏻
@@Rattenhoofd He isn't a non-rhotic speaker with any other word in the video. He just doesn't know the name of one of the major characters in the grandfather of all fantasy literature, no big.
@@HarrysBaby I'm glad someone was as bothered by this as I was... I think. Is that like wishing ill-things upon someone else? I don't know.
Nathan Gehman I think it’s more just being a huge LOTR fan and wanting things said correctly 🙈 and making sure that you weren’t the only one to notice haha
Actually some decent ideas here. But I cant wait for season 8 to be over so I can stop being depressed about how bad it is
you can read the books, and besides there are two more books coming out
@@sonicfreak04 except that the books are semi useless to read if they never get completed, which is very likely.
@@goynus6815 I feel theyll be done
@@sonicfreak04 good for you
@@sonicfreak04 They'll be done, but not probably by GRRM, he has limited time now and even limited mental energy. Not to forget the multiple spin-offs.
I actually really like your idea of having Theon do something to the Night King. Like you said, he doesn't have to deal the killing blow but it would have been a great redemption moment for him
Having Bran hold the NK in place while everyone has to sadly leave, watch Bran disspear into the distance, and knowing that Bran will just eventually free to death is actually something that would have been heart-wrenchingly amazing.
Which does bring up a problem when you think about Sitch's changes. If Bran sacrificed himself, that would mean the Night King would gain his powers. It would be a rather bad corner that the writers would have to get themselves out of considering how powerful Bran's abilities are. Being able to be anywhere at any time means that it is impossible to have a proper strategy meeting without the enemy knowing your tactics.
@@OmegaZyion
Also if the Night King is frozen in place why can't Jon just cut his head off?
And he should have said "door held"
I mean... It would be heart-wrenching if Bran was still Bran and not an emotionless robot. As far as I'm concerned, Bran died the moment he became the Three Eyed Raven.
A only word for define the season: "DISAPPOINTING"
This video made me want to cry from realizing how good this episode could have been and how bad the writers are :’( Fuck i need to wait for the books to come out so i can see the real ending?? 2 years I’ve waited day after day for this very episode and they just bend me over and jam a valyrian steel dagger up my ass and say that this was the ending we came up with “Oh...must be 3 years now” piss off
lol i sure hope you aren't holding your breath for that..i give the HBO writers ALOT more credit that Martin right now at least they are trying....the books are gonna go down as the single most disappointing book series ever written...there will be no winds of winter
brandon242 I really doubt that, I’m a big fan of all the books and this world in general so im biased when i say I’ll love whatever comes out in the end. And saying there will be no Winds of Winter doesn’t make sense imo because the 2 final books will come out, GRRM is just distracted and plus he allready released other books about this world so he’s not completely doing nothing haha. I’m giving absolutely nothing to D&D and this show, they’ve absolutely butchered it at this point as soon as George wasn’t a part of the show anymore. The books will have the real ending.
Remember Daenarys' vision of Kings Landing destroyed with snow falling on the capital implying winter destroyed it? Me neither. Edit: Those saying its ashes go watch the scene again there are literally icicles hanging from shit
Neither do the showrunners
I guess it just represents Jon Snow? I dunno. Maybe Winter isn’t over yet (though I doubt it).
It's almost and if D&D aren't good writers and as soon as they ran out of Martin's source material they drove the show off a cliff
D&D certainly didn't.
It was vague. Prophecy is weird like that. The two generally accepted theories on this are either it means winter (aka the Night King) destroys the capital, or that Jon Snow sits on the throne. At this point, one clearly is no longer an option. What would be great is for Dany to recall it at some point in the last two episodes and come to the realization of what it meant.
Game of Thrones Brotherhood will be a real masterpiece
I really hope that will happen once all the books are out
;)
Yes. I want this series to be animated and have all characters following the path and lines of the books.
For anyone who doesn't know: that's a reference to Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, which was more faithful to the source material if I remember correctly
I always like to remind everyone that Arya is literally the worst choice for killing Night King, because she is the only one person who isn't there thanks to John. Even if a random soldier killed Night King, would at least in a small way be a John doing. gg wp D&D
They should've killed Cersei last season. And then focused solely on the night king this season
^ Win.
Yep...and the Night King would have a one on one fight with Jon as a final match...and the show ends with the Night King and his generals killing everyone and finally sits on the Iron Throne...THE END lol
they dont want that they want sum feminist shiit and make cersei the last boss
YES!
Shreddie Herger Dani is the end boss, not Cersei. She will go mad, attack kings landing and all the innocents inside and Jon will have to stop her
And then came the 4th Episode with the Stealth Sniper fleet that shot down a flying Dragon with 3 precise shots from a mile away then missing Dani and her Dragon while they came straight at them and even broadsided (!!).. This Season cheapens the whole Show.
@@thatcabbage1258 Yup.. I didnt like Episode 3 obviously but if the whole Show ended with the shot of the red Woman turning to dust it would at least have a visually satisfying end... even better if she was the last Living Thing in Westeros.
and later on ballistas fucked up the wooden ships like somene was bombarding them with gustavo gun. Why did they use cannons for naval warfare anyway ?
And I didn't get why Dani charged without just saying "dracarys" during her dive and ridding us of the annoying, poor excuse for Euron Greyjoy that the show dumped on us.
I thought it was a fuxking railgun or something. But no balista did it....
Maybe they were getting sick of making CGI for dragons.
don't forget the stupid standing in front of cersei's forces completely defenseless, begging her to just wipe what remains of the unsullied and what did she decide to do ? instead of taking advantage of all this fuckery she just let them go and decapitate the affro chick
Sam: This is Heartsbane. I want you to wield it for the battle to come.
Jorah: No doubt to aid us against the Night King and his generals.
Sam: No.
In the end it's The Game Of Nothing. Nonsense piled up week after week. Biggest betrayal of D&D to millions of loyal fans after 9 years. SHAME!
4:40 Jon doesn’t just declare it, they killed one of the generals in season 7 and some of the whites around him fall...
But only Bran knows that TNK was the only first created of the white walkers, that he is the one who transofmed everyone of their white bros. If we see bran thelling Jon that it was just one original white walker, then he will undestand that killing that original, will destroy the others as he discovered beyond the wall.
@bruce wayne Maybe I'm wrong, but Jon knows that by killing a white walker the zombies he reanimated are destroyed. But he does not know that if he kills the king of the night, the other white walkers will die like zombies. We still did not know if WW transformed from babies work just like zombies.
At no time was this rule established, and what I was referring to the previous comment, was that Jon does not know if the king of the night is the original and not a part of many that were created at the same time, perhaps several of them were created them at once by the first children, and killing him will only destroy part of the army. That only Bran knows and he should explain it to Jon.
Your Right! I stop the video because that mistake and he deserve a dislike
@bruce wayne Also in season 7 when beyond the wall at the lake surrounded, the brotherhood general (flame sword guy) in reply to to the hound who says, something like, there aren't enough men in all Westeros to fight them all, he says, we dont need to kill them all, just that guy, pointing to white Walker king.
@ToldYouSo a little bit of common sense. If they're turned as babies.. who turns them?.. see how pieces just kinda fall into place here. 1+1=2 right? So if night king creates whites and now killing them kills any they've turned then.... I'll let you complete that one.
Just one correction, we do know why John assumed that if they kill the Night King all would die is because they killed a White's and his small squad collapsed with him
Literally stopped watching the video there and went to the comments to see if anyone else noticed.
I was starting to think I was the only one who saw that episode
mastaskep nope, he apparently miss it.
So ?
except one zombie, dont forget that, except one zombie
Lord of Light resurrects Jon
Arya kills Night King
Lord of Light: oh nevermind then forgot you were the one I needed to focus on. Blue Eyes go! Girl power
Even the nk supported her, He kindly waited for her to do her neat dagger Trick, instead of instantly snapping her Neck. Reminds me of the gentle undead Giant lifting Lady mormont to His eye so she get's at least one kill.
@Blue Rose did you watch the Video? There are different Kind of shock moments. Ned's death was the First real suprise in the Show, whereas the nk was just for subverting expectations. You knew why Ned was killed the way He was, He himself Made mistakes that were fatal in the end. The nk on the other Hand was a build Up character, we still hardly ever saw in action, yet instead of using characters that had any Connections or motivations to get to him, they used a literal deus ex machina to end His Story, Just because they wanted to shock people. When the death of a character does Not make any Sense ( the nk had No reason to be at that particular Spot, as He proved way more intelligent in earlier Episodes than to Fall for that obvious Trap) it No longer is a good shock for the audience, but rather a cheap writing solution, which Shows that d&d had No Idea how they could end their own Creation in a sensible way.
@Blue Rose and If you really believe that tensions were Always as artificial as in this season, you either weren't paying attention to the previous seasons or you are Just unable to follow the plot. Btw i really Hope you are Not one of those easy to please npcs that think every upset Fan ist a Troll or an retard, as you somewhat implied with your "Reeee" sentence.
Do you think that the LoL only cared about the NK and not the whole picture.
@@mediaistheenemy The NK WAS the whole picture lol
Drogon is Azor Ahai. He flew to another world to burn the producers.
Lol. No jury will convict Drogon for this.
Please do so! They are on my list too... D&D
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Picture Voldemort getting stabbed in the back by Dobby
And the most disappointing thing is that they were given an extra year for this season and offered the extra episodes but declined them, They have clearly given up by this point
@hayley s She didn't even finish her training, she got beat up a few times with a stick, And the writing for the braavos scene were terrible let's be honest
I think it'd be more like if at the climax of the Battle of Hogwarts, when Voldemort and Harry are about to face off, Hermione creeps up behind Voldemort and Avada Kedavras him in the back.
AJMaths she did finish her training. J’aqen (however you spell it) explicitly stated that she had completed her training. I’m pretty sure the exact quote is “a girl is finally no one”. Just because we didn’t see her fight with the Waif doesn’t mean it wasn’t a sick fight.
Arya might as well be fucking dobby at this point. She is great but fuck sakes she had no right to be the one to kill the night king.
I wish someone loved me the way Sam loved Frodo.
I meme meme, the way meme meme......
Oh Anthony..... 😂
This comforted me...
I wish someone loved me the way sam loved edd.
Oh wait a minute. He just got scared and left him to die. Nevermind then.
The best part was when the dothraki charged kingslanding while they were almost wiped out completely when they charged the dead...
Calvin Meulen they respawned
Yeah, Dany has had this special power since Season 2 … The power to magically summon dothraki screamers whenever she runs critically low on them. :)
Also how she still had so many people when a good 3/4 of them die😍
Also how she charged them into the Undead for no purpose, they achieved little, and would logically only make the other soldiers scared.
@Knasterreal1 I'm Dutch lol.. And i did not see that many retreating
And what was Melissandre's character for? To provide as a light source for the Battle of Winterfell?😐
And give Arya a pep talk
Yeah she is a lighter
Also if she can light weapons on fire, why can't she just light the enemy troops on fire?
@John F i cant believe some are defending the illogical writing
@@patrickgogan3517, but there is some kind of logic. Somehow the Wights are no longer flammable. Poor dead Ned Umber was still highly flammable. But when they smothered the flames in the burning trnech with their once highly flammable bodies, I knew that Melisandre would not be of much help, if she would light them.
They have also boosted their strength and could break through stone. Before that they could be imprissond in a wooden box...
In D&D's minds this _is_ logic.
They got this season backwards. Cercei should have been resolved by episode 3, the Night king saved for ep5.
I always liked the idea that winterfell falls to the dead. Then they retreat to KL and cersie refuses to let them in. Then they send in a strike force of jaime, bronn, arya, sandor, grey worm, and some red shirts who infiltrate the city. Arya helps sandor kill the mountain and jaime kills cersie. Then they the WW's come down and attack and all hell breaks loose.
Yeah, they're totally going to march for a month to King's Landing under the pending threat of an undead invasion- to deal with a monarch who, up until the last fucking day, was assumed to be joining forces. And then march back? Or lose half the kingdom?
Grow a brain, please.
@@pulz1443 March for a MONTH? Post season 4? You're the one who needs a brain, they just bloody teleport at this point. Winterfell SHOULD have fallen, the survivors running south and east. Some going to the twins (what was the point of killing the Freys if we never see them again?), some going to The Neck, where we meet Howland Reed (remember that guy and Meera Reed?). That is the perfect moment to confirm Sam and Bran's story, an eye witness and Lord who was there at the tower of joy.
You then have Cersei marching North but as a big battle happens the undead swoop in and we finally have a three way fight, the south realising the threat is real and uniting to stand against the dead. You have Jon finally battling the Night King. This at least ties threads together.
@@aaronweers8697 Ye I agree with this guy. The thing which has been built up with for the White Walkers since series 1 is that the entire realm has to unite against them if they want to take them out. Imagine you have the tension between Jon and Dany and the complete ignorance of Cersei happening and then boom, Night King. I always imagined it would happen like that with Dany and Cersei being killed, Jon Snow defeating the Night's King (and then refusing the throne and living beyond the wall as a watcher of the North or something) and only a small ragtag group of people surviving to set up a new government in Westeros under Tyrion's leadership (the survivors probably being Sansa, Davos, Sam and Gendry).
@@pulz1443 I was just trying to summarize an idea that I heard on RUclips. The idea was that they fall back and keep falling back because the dead grow stronger and stronger. Then they make a final stand at KL which is kinda like the "heart" of Westeros and all the political intrigue.
Also cheers to being that one guy who always has to add personal insults instead of just a good counter.