A pair of podcasters pandering to younger generations for clicks. All of society, always pandering to the youth. I don't care about the youth. They get far too much attention. It's not good for them.
@joshuamatheson6411 yeah I felt that tension but I think it’s a fine line of high energy vs aggression. They are both super passionate which makes for great viewing. Thankfully they are both respectful of one another. I wish political debates were more like this. In fact I wish one of them would be in politics but sadly the politics career path is not an attractive road for most intelligent well balanced people. The whole political system is pretty broken.
The main thing here is they heavily disagree to the point of aggressively wanting to get what they want but they BOTH want the same end result so they really aren't in conflict. The reality is that they are both right, we need a shift on both front and as the middle class we need to not wholly trust either of them to do it right. Set the two entities to hold each other accountable, business vs gov. They shouldn't be on the same side like they are now
i was thinking the same thing - they can call on each other’s BS and still sincerely smile and communicate effectively…i like this example. plus the conversation is rich too…win win.
I'd sign a petition for them to start one. Especially because they don't agree on a lot of stuff. The interesting part is it feels like they both want the same, they just argued on the efficiency of ways to get there
I'm a fan of both of these guys, and even more so after this. I think the podcast space has shifted to being far too agreeable and to have these two giants in their respective fields, agreeing, disagreeing and debating so openly is super refreshing!
Scott needs more of Simon’s smile. Simon needs more of Scott’s sarcasm. Maybe they’ll forge a union of thought that takes immediate action to produce that kinder gentler generation of compassionate capitalists and sincere philanthropists. Meanwhile, we small town middle class moderate thinking peace lovers are just trying to pay the rent. Thanks guys. Y’all are genius thinkers. Hope your ideas work! ✨
That’s just it. He’s not a sincere philanthropist. He admits he donates money not cause he cares or is altruistic but because it makes him feel better. I appreciate that fact that he’s not lying about it. But then he lies about politics. He’s like Trump should be in jail but then doesn’t call out democrats for electing Biden when he clearly had dementia even before he was elected. If he was sincere he would have pushed or said Bernie sanders should run for office! Like seriously I would have considered Bernie cause I knew Biden was mentally gone and a puppet. Bernie is mentally sound.
Im 34 and im so tired of being told "oh its easy to make money , just invest, buy real estate, start a business" etc and im like i work 40-50 hours a week all ready and can barely pay my bills how the HELL am i going to have the time or capital to do any of that unless i already had it in the bank!!!!???
I had a coworker tell me a few months ago that it's easy to hit the $200k mark and it's the $300k per year that is a little hard. This was after I told him I never thought I'd make anywhere near my current salary of $80k.
lower your living expenses, save 100k even if it takes a few yesrs, and invest. you sound like you just spend your entire paycheck on a pricey lifestyle
Such a fair point. But we need to try our best, others won’t look after us. We won’t get state pension when we get there, not even here in the UK. So try your best.
Really enjoyed their dynamic. What a great duo and podcast. There are 3 layers to every problem: do we agree on the symptoms of the problem, do we agree on the root cause, do we agree on the solutions. They are in agreement more than disagreement. The central theme for solution between the both of them is humanity's ability to make sacrifices for the greater good. They are both optimistic but with different groups. I'm really trying to be optimistic but it is quite difficult for either corporations or government. Out of 7 companies I've worked for, only 1 truly put their money where their mouth is for social responsibility. As for the government, we just voted in DJT, need I say more. Fewer and fewer people make decisions for the greater good. Fewer and fewer people are willing to make sacrifices (for all aspects of life, work, marriage, friendships, your neighbors, etc). It's all me, me, me. Social media and AI is only make this worse. We are increasingly lonely, isolated, and self absorbed. So I agree on a tax on LLM computing to fund energy conservation innovation, a tax on social media companies and ads on social media to fund mental health programs, a tax on UPF to fund physical health programs, somehow tax airlines and cars to fund better public transportation infrastructure, etc. But even if we get brilliant economists and policy makers to come up with the best imperfect solution, will this ever pass? Probably not. Will Meta donate 0.1% of it's annual revenue each year which is ~ $100 million to mental health programs for teens and young adults? Probably not. We're just going around in a circle. But I believe it only takes a few leaders to do the right thing to start reversing the trajectory in our (collective) favor. But who will it be? What leaders will step up to the plate to do the hard but right thing against their best interests but for the greater good? I don't think it's DJT nor Elon Musk. So my question to Simon and Scott is who do they think these leaders are in both the private and public sectors? We need a call to action not for everyone but to those leaders.
Quite possibly the best Podcast I've listened to in years. I have three sons ages 35, 30 and 27 who fortunately are amazing young men who have already made significant strides in their lives and are still incredibly grounded and with whom I have very strong ties. I've shared this link with them hoping they'll listen to it so we can discuss their takes. Thank you for doing this, gentlemen.
This podcast made me laugh so hard with you guys. These two points of view are speaking the exact same language and is EXACTLY the conversation that we need in every billionaires board room and presidential election but not with empty words but with the wholehearted spirit you both just brought. I love you both and you two need to get like minded folks to make these same points with a couple other voices and see where it goes. Encore!
After a very long time, I am watching a podcast where 2 people have a very serious conversation and are not just talking nice about each other and themselves just to promote their own content. 👏
2 years out of College my generation got hit with Great Recession ‘08. Took me 10 years working 2 or 3 jobs/gigs to save enough to buy a home then I lost job ‘20 COVID and even though I found employment within a year, with a fam4 🏡 all my savings wiped gone. I know I’m not the only one in my 40s having to rebuild that wealth right along side Gen-Z.
Millennials got it worst in terms of previous generations...except, we did not have major wars. However, economy did not work on our favour at all, baby boomers were strongly lucky. I think gen Z understood some things better in terms of money and how to make it and sooner than us which seems to be a benefit for the future...but not sure what future holds. Maybe AI will mess all up. The good thing about being millennials is that we are in between, we still understand the past and we lived the beginning of the future, technology an so on, so we also connect with new generations. I do not agree the way this podcast ends up making money the centre of life, but is a reality that we need to have enough to not have to worry, and that is something Millennials have struggled from the start.
40's here too. After '08 I managed to rebuild again after 10 years too! However Covid finally ended me. Lost all my savings and have not been able to recover from it. Wages are lower and everything is more expensive. Decided not to have kids, as I can barely afford to survive myself.
I'm a little younger and was just starting to go to college when the great recession happened in 08. I did mostly everything right and was on the pathway to buying my first home when I lost my job in 2017 and started my current one that has a lower income. I did quite well during COVID, but I feel the financial pain now due to seeing my pay move closer to minimum wage than going up.
You graduated right before the longest bull run in history of the stock market, with housing prices reset right when you were coming into buying age. You had more opportunities and better timing than almost anyone outside of potentially the post WW2 boom.
This was so refreshing, authentic, full of wisdom and common sense. This is exactly what we heed these days. Especially when we are facing a polarised discourse and the plague of hate in our society. We need both Sinek and Galloway.
I enjoyed this conversation but I found it frustrating at times. I think Scott completely missed Simon's point at 58:40 (people are pushing so hard to make their number [nevermind that everyone's number is going to be different...in Scott's case it was 9 figures, in my case, 7 figures] that it's at the cost of each other). I have absolutely seen people justify atrocious behavior under the assumption that after hitting some sort of milestones, they would be done. Simon's example of justifying laying people off to hit a number is salient at the moment and it absolutely blew my mind that Scott dismissed that as "not true" when less than ten minutes ago at 53:15 he talks about how on his journey to making 9 figures, he saw people in terms of two bubbles: how much money they made, and how much money they were adding, and if what they made was larger he'd fire them. This is exactly what Simon was talking about. A dehumanizing approach to "ruthless capitalism" as Scott puts it. And that's what got him to 9 figures. It's easy to be generous when you have that much excess. It's another thing entirely when you don't and manage to grow a business, while simultaneously treating people right. It's just very clear that Scott wasn't really listening or reflecting on what was being said.
When you ask “where are the people?” I think to myself, “it’s you”. You two are highly influential, intelligent, and articulate. RUN FOR OFFICE. It is your moral obligation to use your talents, knowledge, and advantages to step up for the country and young people. Please.
Love this conversation! Scott is a great counter balance to the Noise of the world in these difficult days. Please have him back again, I so look forward to seeing him again on your channel.
I am the oldest of a triplet of brothers and I can assure you, brothers at the ages of 12 to 17 have their little conflicts and irritations, but now that we are at the ages of 20 to 25, we are friends, since we actually slowly get to know each other as our adult selves. And I believe its simply because we have compassionate parents who respect each of us the way we are.
Both men are advocating for time. Friendships, community, and relationships require time and presence. However, most jobs are hourly workers which require both time and presence to be paid, which limits people’s time to be present for community events, loving others, and friendships. Paying more is one solution that could allow for more time and presence.
Love the show. Scott Galloway's a big influence to me. I think we have to accept that any future programs (even one's like UBI, but also specifically legislation) should not be counted on, if the wealthy lobby to have provisions in place to opt themselves out of subsidizing the public's financial struggle. The Calvary is not coming. The next president, whoever he/she is, is not our messiah. Politics is not the new religion, and the Calvary is not coming. We all have to keep fighting to increase our worth. Bless those like Mr. Galloway, who pulls upward those around him.
Best thing I saw online in a while. Good thinking here. My problem that Scott doesn´t touch is, what happens to taxes once it make to politicians hands.
it is great to see 2 people with opposing views and ideals come together and have a meaningful discussion. We seem to either get people who constantly agree or argue, there isn't often this level of discourse.
I am just hypnotised when I see two intelectual individuals debating fairly and openly about anything. That’s actually what I currently miss the most when I talk to people do agree and disagree make we all rich and open minded. You should have a podcast together once a month to talk about different topics. I’ve learned so much from you guys, and I’m not talking only about English ( Scott Galloway speaks really fast 😂) he is testing my listening comprehension more than Cambridge Exams 😂😂😂. I LOVE YOU GUYS! I really do because I learn so much from you and thanks for that.
This was an excellent exchange. Scott’s comment that there’s being correct and there’s being effective really nailed the issue. We need to focus more energy on identifying and implementing strategies that are effective.
I have a ton of respect for them both and love that they are speaking about this. But they also need to realize they have the reach and resources to start driving these changes beyond bringing light to them. Start organizations based on your ideas, run or office or find someone you would want for office that you can promote and help campaign so they can make a change at a level that gets the ball rolling!
To rebut Scott’s solution about political leaders and Simon’s about idealism: I watched Marrianne Williamson just campaign for president with all the morality and higher purpose described by Simon and the courage to call out special interest described by Scott… The people, the voters, laughed at her… sometimes for her optimism or spiritual views. So, the experiment was ran. Voters failed miserably. Look at the nominees. There were choices. We are, in fact, too stupid to vote our way to a better future.
I would argue this take does not account for the sad fact that this hypothetical candidate they are both talking about would have to be one of the two nominees from each party. While I respect her, she was never a serious option. And a large part of that was funding.
What a fantastic conversation that cuts deep into the American psyche and emotions as adults and living! Thank you for this conversation guys! I love it!
Please start a podcast. You two have similar and conflicting views, while managing to respect each other's position enough to talk it through. It's really great to hear.
Thanks for this convo. I am so saddened by the economic reality which the people in early 20’s are facing. Even with 10 years older, I feel my economic reality graduating a decade back is better than what they are facing.
Thank you Simon for always expounding my mind with the different guest who grace your podcast with lifetimes worth of knowledge compressed into a podcast episode.
I really appreciate the way you both interact...the common ground found...the areas where you differ and still an exciting and thought provoking conversation. I dream of both these visions and prepare to sacrifice to see it happen.
I was born and raised in a town largely consisting of the 1%, my parents worked their way into the 5% category. Like Scott, I was obsessed with WW II history. The month I graduated college I enlisted in the military. Neighbors thought I had thrown my life away. It was the best thing I ever did. My sons will likely join as well as I will guide them that direction. If the wealthy don’t serve, our country will lose it’s soul.
Great insight on this country's problems from both Scott and Simon. Problem with Scott is that is happiness is fleeting. He gets happiness only while is spending the money. He is not fully content. He would be absolutely unhappy if he lost his money. Wish Scott could feel complete without his "target" money.
There was a study that found more wealthy people become greedier they tend to be. Scott not only pays his employees well but believes in spending and improving others lives instead of hoarding. I much rather see people like Scott in our society than greedy and cheap who don’t care about others only for their own good and benefit.
@@OlgaSunny-pl2sg I mean...technically he's still hoarding relative to the average person if he's keeping his net worth flat at 9 figures while flying out his friends to Aspen to party. And he got to 9 figures by - in his own words - being a ruthless capitalist where as soon as someone cost more than the money they generated for his business, he fired them. I'll take the employer that does things with a little more compassion before they hit their 9 figure net worth.
He also has not Increased net worth in 7 years and gave a lot away. How many people in his position take friends to Aspen at their expense? He also notes he overpays people who do a great work I am sure there are reasons for his fires.
@@OlgaSunny-pl2sg I think you would be surprised to hear how many people with 9 figures pay for close friends/family to travel. It's pretty common and not something that really surprises me given what I've seen wealthy people do. I know people with 6 figure net worths - not even millionaire status - that take their families or friends on vacation. As for his net worth remaining flat for 7 years - it doesn't need to grow to be considered "hoarding." If Elon Musk's net worth didn't grow for the remainder of his life, would we really consider his multi-billion dollar status an example of an individual that wasn't hoarding? As for the reasons behind his firings - he laid it out pretty clearly himself. He said that if a person cost more than what they brought in for long enough, he would fire them. That's the approach and mentality that got him to 9 figures - not giving a fuck about people on the journey - and it's EXTREMELY convenient that now that he has 9 figures, he's willing to be generous - just so long as his 9 figure net worth remains flat. I'll admit I'm being a little uncharitable, but I think it's because I'm looking at Scott through his own worldview. He is literally the top .1%.
I agree with Scott - on hitting the number and then spending and helping people. Hit mine a few years ago -and since then, can afford to be generous and love being that way. And , I agree with Simon ... pushing so hard to hit your number, (and then changing the number) can distract is from living a virtuous and happy life. They are both correct.
I came across Scott G during his Ted talk where he talked about the love child. At that moment I thought to myself how awesome it would be to see Simon and Scott get together to make a love child podcast. Thank you guys, for making my dream come true in making this podcast.
This info from both is gold. Any of the two would make a great president in my opinion. I don’t know why you don’t get more capable and intelligent individuals like this to run for office.
Simon is hitting on a deeper point. Numbers don’t make up the whole only a fraction. Values, love, friendship, and integrity make the majority. Money without those things is meaningless.
Scott Galloway delivers the fucking best content. Cancel everything he’s not on and he can interview everyone…every single hack, bullshit artist, fraud, liar, and then some lying to themselves the mostly. Keep going Scott!
Thank you for this content. I learned a lot, especially about how two people with differing values can champion the same message. The largest dose of optimism came from the idea that we should all be better friends; it fixes our problems better than any politician or corporate leader can.
In Sikhism, The concept of seva, or selfless service to humanity, is a fundamental teaching of Guru Nanak. This emphasis on helping others without any expectation of reward promotes a sense of community and compassion. In the contemporary world, where humanitarian crises and social issues abound, the spirit of seva remains relevant. In corporate world, it's called moral obligation to give back .
love scott. his logic is hard to deny. he lives in reality not in ideals. the money over love bit is hard to take but so true. simon can't handle it. great convo.
I've never actually heard Simon be this blunt and open about what pisses him off. This is two guys who aren't out to 'get' each other and are just ready to roll their sleeves up and slug out the ideas. Great listen.
This is fantastic and I love the disagreeing between you two and how no one takes it personally. Its like being privy to a really good pub conversation.
I live in the Midwest. Our cities, states, neighborhoods, etc. have experienced severe weather this year (hail, thunderstorms, flooding, tornadoes, etc.) People have lost houses, loved ones, pets, their entire lives. Whenever one of these severe weather events impacts us, we mobilize and prepare to assist in any way that we can. I think this can be a solution to the current issues impacting our communities and our country. We need to convince ourselves, our leaders, our politicians, and our civil servants that this is a severe weather event. We need to mobilize and prepare our troops to assist in any way that we can. We need to swallow our pride, roll up our sleeves, and prepare to sacrifice for our neighbors. Drastic changes can be made if we convince ourselves that this is reasonable, possible, and necessary. No one will willingly give the government more tax dollars, but they will gladly help their neighbors. Let's start there.
It's wild how once you leave the midwest that "take care of your nieghor" mentality totally disappears. I remember when I moved to CO from MN and experienced an actual snow storm there. It was bizarre not seeing whole neighborhoods out shoveling and assisting each other or when cars were stuck in the ditch no one was helping. From CO to MYC on my first day here across the street I see women is struggling to enter a coffee shop with a stroller, not one person assisted in holding the door for her. I don't get it.
I love Scott but on this occasion he came to delivery his messages and opinions at all cost. He didn’t once listen to Simon, kept trying to jump in, saying “uh huh” and dismissing Simon.
A pair of smart men losing their ego and debating about things that actually matter in this world. Outstanding content.
I'm about to watch the presidential debates.. Should be equally insightful and productive 🤣
A pair of podcasters pandering to younger generations for clicks. All of society, always pandering to the youth.
I don't care about the youth. They get far too much attention. It's not good for them.
abso-freakin-lutely
I don’t think these two have lost their ego…
These are the kind of people who should be the leaders of a country.
Wow! You guys really bounce off each other and aren’t afraid to call BS on each other’s claims. Please make Scott a repeat guest.
That was excellent. They could go for round two
@joshuamatheson6411 that's why it was so good! More please
@joshuamatheson6411 yeah I felt that tension but I think it’s a fine line of high energy vs aggression. They are both super passionate which makes for great viewing. Thankfully they are both respectful of one another. I wish political debates were more like this. In fact I wish one of them would be in politics but sadly the politics career path is not an attractive road for most intelligent well balanced people. The whole political system is pretty broken.
@@Taliatekito
Spot on…👏
The main thing here is they heavily disagree to the point of aggressively wanting to get what they want but they BOTH want the same end result so they really aren't in conflict.
The reality is that they are both right, we need a shift on both front and as the middle class we need to not wholly trust either of them to do it right.
Set the two entities to hold each other accountable, business vs gov. They shouldn't be on the same side like they are now
This is what an intellectually respectful debate look like
i was thinking the same thing - they can call on each other’s BS and still sincerely smile and communicate effectively…i like this example. plus the conversation is rich too…win win.
@@kbelle4138 exactly very rich debate
Ironic bc they yell at each other! It’s rare that someone yells and then backs down so this is definitely notable
these guys are both gay
They joked about starting a podcast together, but I’d totally watch that.
I'd sign a petition for them to start one. Especially because they don't agree on a lot of stuff. The interesting part is it feels like they both want the same, they just argued on the efficiency of ways to get there
I'm a fan of both of these guys, and even more so after this. I think the podcast space has shifted to being far too agreeable and to have these two giants in their respective fields, agreeing, disagreeing and debating so openly is super refreshing!
This is gold. This is exactly what people should be talking and thinking about until it gets fixed!
Scott needs more of Simon’s smile. Simon needs more of Scott’s sarcasm. Maybe they’ll forge a union of thought that takes immediate action to produce that kinder gentler generation of compassionate capitalists and sincere philanthropists. Meanwhile, we small town middle class moderate thinking peace lovers are just trying to pay the rent. Thanks guys. Y’all are genius thinkers. Hope your ideas work! ✨
That’s just it. He’s not a sincere philanthropist. He admits he donates money not cause he cares or is altruistic but because it makes him feel better. I appreciate that fact that he’s not lying about it.
But then he lies about politics. He’s like Trump should be in jail but then doesn’t call out democrats for electing Biden when he clearly had dementia even before he was elected. If he was sincere he would have pushed or said Bernie sanders should run for office! Like seriously I would have considered Bernie cause I knew Biden was mentally gone and a puppet. Bernie is mentally sound.
Or they just fuck
If they 69 they can combine like dragon ball z
Im 34 and im so tired of being told "oh its easy to make money , just invest, buy real estate, start a business" etc and im like i work 40-50 hours a week all ready and can barely pay my bills how the HELL am i going to have the time or capital to do any of that unless i already had it in the bank!!!!???
I had a coworker tell me a few months ago that it's easy to hit the $200k mark and it's the $300k per year that is a little hard. This was after I told him I never thought I'd make anywhere near my current salary of $80k.
@@robertmorawe6054Goes to show you, you thought 80k$ wouldn't happen yet here we are. Keep pushing
lower your living expenses, save 100k even if it takes a few yesrs, and invest.
you sound like you just spend your entire paycheck on a pricey lifestyle
Such a fair point. But we need to try our best, others won’t look after us. We won’t get state pension when we get there, not even here in the UK. So try your best.
Really enjoyed their dynamic. What a great duo and podcast. There are 3 layers to every problem: do we agree on the symptoms of the problem, do we agree on the root cause, do we agree on the solutions. They are in agreement more than disagreement. The central theme for solution between the both of them is humanity's ability to make sacrifices for the greater good. They are both optimistic but with different groups. I'm really trying to be optimistic but it is quite difficult for either corporations or government. Out of 7 companies I've worked for, only 1 truly put their money where their mouth is for social responsibility. As for the government, we just voted in DJT, need I say more. Fewer and fewer people make decisions for the greater good. Fewer and fewer people are willing to make sacrifices (for all aspects of life, work, marriage, friendships, your neighbors, etc). It's all me, me, me. Social media and AI is only make this worse. We are increasingly lonely, isolated, and self absorbed. So I agree on a tax on LLM computing to fund energy conservation innovation, a tax on social media companies and ads on social media to fund mental health programs, a tax on UPF to fund physical health programs, somehow tax airlines and cars to fund better public transportation infrastructure, etc. But even if we get brilliant economists and policy makers to come up with the best imperfect solution, will this ever pass? Probably not. Will Meta donate 0.1% of it's annual revenue each year which is ~ $100 million to mental health programs for teens and young adults? Probably not. We're just going around in a circle. But I believe it only takes a few leaders to do the right thing to start reversing the trajectory in our (collective) favor. But who will it be? What leaders will step up to the plate to do the hard but right thing against their best interests but for the greater good? I don't think it's DJT nor Elon Musk. So my question to Simon and Scott is who do they think these leaders are in both the private and public sectors? We need a call to action not for everyone but to those leaders.
Quite possibly the best Podcast I've listened to in years. I have three sons ages 35, 30 and 27 who fortunately are amazing young men who have already made significant strides in their lives and are still incredibly grounded and with whom I have very strong ties. I've shared this link with them hoping they'll listen to it so we can discuss their takes. Thank you for doing this, gentlemen.
This is the best podcast/interview I've heard all year. Rigorous, funny, psychoanalytic, and cathartic at the same time.
This podcast made me laugh so hard with you guys. These two points of view are speaking the exact same language and is EXACTLY the conversation that we need in every billionaires board room and presidential election but not with empty words but with the wholehearted spirit you both just brought. I love you both and you two need to get like minded folks to make these same points with a couple other voices and see where it goes. Encore!
After a very long time, I am watching a podcast where 2 people have a very serious conversation and are not just talking nice about each other and themselves just to promote their own content. 👏
2 years out of College my generation got hit with Great Recession ‘08. Took me 10 years working 2 or 3 jobs/gigs to save enough to buy a home then I lost job ‘20 COVID and even though I found employment within a year, with a fam4 🏡 all my savings wiped gone. I know I’m not the only one in my 40s having to rebuild that wealth right along side Gen-Z.
We're about the same age, similar back story. Be a family man, I'm not rich, but it is working for me.
Millennials got it worst in terms of previous generations...except, we did not have major wars. However, economy did not work on our favour at all, baby boomers were strongly lucky. I think gen Z understood some things better in terms of money and how to make it and sooner than us which seems to be a benefit for the future...but not sure what future holds. Maybe AI will mess all up. The good thing about being millennials is that we are in between, we still understand the past and we lived the beginning of the future, technology an so on, so we also connect with new generations. I do not agree the way this podcast ends up making money the centre of life, but is a reality that we need to have enough to not have to worry, and that is something Millennials have struggled from the start.
40's here too. After '08 I managed to rebuild again after 10 years too! However Covid finally ended me. Lost all my savings and have not been able to recover from it. Wages are lower and everything is more expensive. Decided not to have kids, as I can barely afford to survive myself.
I'm a little younger and was just starting to go to college when the great recession happened in 08. I did mostly everything right and was on the pathway to buying my first home when I lost my job in 2017 and started my current one that has a lower income. I did quite well during COVID, but I feel the financial pain now due to seeing my pay move closer to minimum wage than going up.
You graduated right before the longest bull run in history of the stock market, with housing prices reset right when you were coming into buying age. You had more opportunities and better timing than almost anyone outside of potentially the post WW2 boom.
Really refreshing to see the respectful robust exchange between two people on a podcast!
This was so refreshing, authentic, full of wisdom and common sense.
This is exactly what we heed these days. Especially when we are facing a polarised discourse and the plague of hate in our society.
We need both Sinek and Galloway.
A+...Simon got more out of Galloway than I've seen anywhere else. Great content and chemistry.
Yes. A revolution of intellect, economy, and values. Not violence and name-calling.
I enjoyed this conversation but I found it frustrating at times. I think Scott completely missed Simon's point at 58:40 (people are pushing so hard to make their number [nevermind that everyone's number is going to be different...in Scott's case it was 9 figures, in my case, 7 figures] that it's at the cost of each other).
I have absolutely seen people justify atrocious behavior under the assumption that after hitting some sort of milestones, they would be done. Simon's example of justifying laying people off to hit a number is salient at the moment and it absolutely blew my mind that Scott dismissed that as "not true" when less than ten minutes ago at 53:15 he talks about how on his journey to making 9 figures, he saw people in terms of two bubbles: how much money they made, and how much money they were adding, and if what they made was larger he'd fire them.
This is exactly what Simon was talking about. A dehumanizing approach to "ruthless capitalism" as Scott puts it.
And that's what got him to 9 figures.
It's easy to be generous when you have that much excess. It's another thing entirely when you don't and manage to grow a business, while simultaneously treating people right.
It's just very clear that Scott wasn't really listening or reflecting on what was being said.
I love how they disagreed and never disrespected each other. They joked and they disagreed vehemently at points, but they didn’t disrespect each other
One of the best unadulterated conversations between two people at their peak of their professional success!!
When you ask “where are the people?” I think to myself, “it’s you”. You two are highly influential, intelligent, and articulate. RUN FOR OFFICE. It is your moral obligation to use your talents, knowledge, and advantages to step up for the country and young people. Please.
What an awesome debate. A clash of ideas not personalities. How refreshing!
Finally heard something new from Professor G
That fool endorsed Kamala. Thats ridiculous
Love this conversation! Scott is a great counter balance to the Noise of the world in these difficult days. Please have him back again, I so look forward to seeing him again on your channel.
Two of my favourite people I've known through the internet, together on a podcast, just perfect!
I am the oldest of a triplet of brothers and I can assure you, brothers at the ages of 12 to 17 have their little conflicts and irritations, but now that we are at the ages of 20 to 25, we are friends, since we actually slowly get to know each other as our adult selves. And I believe its simply because we have compassionate parents who respect each of us the way we are.
Both men are advocating for time. Friendships, community, and relationships require time and presence. However, most jobs are hourly workers which require both time and presence to be paid, which limits people’s time to be present for community events, loving others, and friendships. Paying more is one solution that could allow for more time and presence.
Simon, Scott is so thoughtful. Thank you for having him! May your reach continue to expand.
His thoughts on covid are certainly full of shit.
Best conversation I’ve heard in months. Real, raw. Great points.
Love the point about how we-middle folks-need to come together, being against extremists. Social media has divided people too much.
Love the show. Scott Galloway's a big influence to me. I think we have to accept that any future programs (even one's like UBI, but also specifically legislation) should not be counted on, if the wealthy lobby to have provisions in place to opt themselves out of subsidizing the public's financial struggle. The Calvary is not coming. The next president, whoever he/she is, is not our messiah. Politics is not the new religion, and the Calvary is not coming. We all have to keep fighting to increase our worth. Bless those like Mr. Galloway, who pulls upward those around him.
Exactly, socialism is never the answer.
That sequence on minutes 54:36 was gold🤣🤣. I appreciate the both of you so much. Thank you for your time!
Best thing I saw online in a while. Good thinking here. My problem that Scott doesn´t touch is, what happens to taxes once it make to politicians hands.
it is great to see 2 people with opposing views and ideals come together and have a meaningful discussion.
We seem to either get people who constantly agree or argue, there isn't often this level of discourse.
You guys are the candidates, make the jump to being true civil servants and run for office
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Amazing to witness the respect these two men showed each other.
I am just hypnotised when I see two intelectual individuals debating fairly and openly about anything. That’s actually what I currently miss the most when I talk to people do agree and disagree make we all rich and open minded. You should have a podcast together once a month to talk about different topics. I’ve learned so much from you guys, and I’m not talking only about English ( Scott Galloway speaks really fast 😂) he is testing my listening comprehension more than Cambridge Exams 😂😂😂. I LOVE YOU GUYS! I really do because I learn so much from you and thanks for that.
This was an excellent exchange. Scott’s comment that there’s being correct and there’s being effective really nailed the issue. We need to focus more energy on identifying and implementing strategies that are effective.
This Guy needs to run for President!
Two of my favorite speakers in the same podcast. What a treat!
This was by FAR, one rhe BEST thought provoking PODCAST I've listened to! AAHH-MAZING ❤❤❤
I love Scott Galloway...BOOM! He says it all. He's my favorite Monday podcast.
I have a ton of respect for them both and love that they are speaking about this. But they also need to realize they have the reach and resources to start driving these changes beyond bringing light to them. Start organizations based on your ideas, run or office or find someone you would want for office that you can promote and help campaign so they can make a change at a level that gets the ball rolling!
Both great guys with lots of heart and diametrically opposite perspectives at times. Great conversation and great to see you're both still friends.
Hands down one of the best interviews with Scott I have seen lately
Yes, so good they took off the gloves! All hell broke out and, didn’t need a whole pot of coffee this morning ❤
Scott Galloway = spirit animal.
A lot of Scott’s points made a ton of sense to me before but leave it to Simon to set me straight. Great dialogue! 🌟
This is the ULTIMATE match up, was waiting for this. Scott the ultimate gangster and Simon the preacher! IYKNYK-BOOM!!
GALLOWAY IS A COWARD WHO DON'T DEBATE
100% This should be an open ongoing conversation. I love it!
These two need to create a week to week podcast show!
This was a wild ride. Wow, I love these two together. MORE!
To rebut Scott’s solution about political leaders and Simon’s about idealism: I watched Marrianne Williamson just campaign for president with all the morality and higher purpose described by Simon and the courage to call out special interest described by Scott… The people, the voters, laughed at her… sometimes for her optimism or spiritual views. So, the experiment was ran. Voters failed miserably. Look at the nominees. There were choices. We are, in fact, too stupid to vote our way to a better future.
I would argue this take does not account for the sad fact that this hypothetical candidate they are both talking about would have to be one of the two nominees from each party. While I respect her, she was never a serious option. And a large part of that was funding.
Furthermore, our choice is a bit illusory, but what is not illusory is a large enough grass roots movement.
What a fantastic conversation that cuts deep into the American psyche and emotions as adults and living! Thank you for this conversation guys! I love it!
Please start a podcast. You two have similar and conflicting views, while managing to respect each other's position enough to talk it through. It's really great to hear.
I loved this so much, amazing to see two friends having an honest convo
Until this interview I have never read or listened to Scott but I thoroughly enjoyed his perspective in this discussion. Thank you both!
Thanks for this convo. I am so saddened by the economic reality which the people in early 20’s are facing. Even with 10 years older, I feel my economic reality graduating a decade back is better than what they are facing.
Thank you Simon for always expounding my mind with the different guest who grace your podcast with lifetimes worth of knowledge compressed into a podcast episode.
I really appreciate the way you both interact...the common ground found...the areas where you differ and still an exciting and thought provoking conversation.
I dream of both these visions and prepare to sacrifice to see it happen.
Thank you! I enjoyed it so much, hope to see Prof G here again.
I was born and raised in a town largely consisting of the 1%, my parents worked their way into the 5% category. Like Scott, I was obsessed with WW II history. The month I graduated college I enlisted in the military. Neighbors thought I had thrown my life away. It was the best thing I ever did. My sons will likely join as well as I will guide them that direction. If the wealthy don’t serve, our country will lose it’s soul.
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Run for President!🙏🏾 You are who we need, if not YOU who?! America, the WORLD NEEDS YOU!
Great conversation, honest, genuine, funny and wonderfully refreshing. Please have more of these. Spread these throughout the mainstream.
Great insight on this country's problems from both Scott and Simon. Problem with Scott is that is happiness is fleeting. He gets happiness only while is spending the money. He is not fully content. He would be absolutely unhappy if he lost his money. Wish Scott could feel complete without his "target" money.
There was a study that found more wealthy people become greedier they tend to be. Scott not only pays his employees well but believes in spending and improving others lives instead of hoarding. I much rather see people like Scott in our society than greedy and cheap who don’t care about others only for their own good and benefit.
@@OlgaSunny-pl2sg I mean...technically he's still hoarding relative to the average person if he's keeping his net worth flat at 9 figures while flying out his friends to Aspen to party.
And he got to 9 figures by - in his own words - being a ruthless capitalist where as soon as someone cost more than the money they generated for his business, he fired them.
I'll take the employer that does things with a little more compassion before they hit their 9 figure net worth.
@najla2 Hit the nail on the head.
He also has not Increased net worth in 7 years and gave a lot away. How many people in his position take friends to Aspen at their expense? He also notes he overpays people who do a great work I am sure there are reasons for his fires.
@@OlgaSunny-pl2sg I think you would be surprised to hear how many people with 9 figures pay for close friends/family to travel. It's pretty common and not something that really surprises me given what I've seen wealthy people do. I know people with 6 figure net worths - not even millionaire status - that take their families or friends on vacation.
As for his net worth remaining flat for 7 years - it doesn't need to grow to be considered "hoarding." If Elon Musk's net worth didn't grow for the remainder of his life, would we really consider his multi-billion dollar status an example of an individual that wasn't hoarding?
As for the reasons behind his firings - he laid it out pretty clearly himself. He said that if a person cost more than what they brought in for long enough, he would fire them. That's the approach and mentality that got him to 9 figures - not giving a fuck about people on the journey - and it's EXTREMELY convenient that now that he has 9 figures, he's willing to be generous - just so long as his 9 figure net worth remains flat.
I'll admit I'm being a little uncharitable, but I think it's because I'm looking at Scott through his own worldview. He is literally the top .1%.
I agree with Scott - on hitting the number and then spending and helping people. Hit mine a few years ago -and since then, can afford to be generous and love being that way. And , I agree with Simon ... pushing so hard to hit your number, (and then changing the number) can distract is from living a virtuous and happy life. They are both correct.
What a great discussion. This is humanity 101.
This is one of the best podcasts I have ever learned. I learned so much. Thank you Simon and Scott. I love you guys. No homo.
I came across Scott G during his Ted talk where he talked about the love child. At that moment I thought to myself how awesome it would be to see Simon and Scott get together to make a love child podcast. Thank you guys, for making my dream come true in making this podcast.
The new Odd Couple. Both intellectually brilliant. I love both of these guys!
This info from both is gold. Any of the two would make a great president in my opinion. I don’t know why you don’t get more capable and intelligent individuals like this to run for office.
Simon is hitting on a deeper point. Numbers don’t make up the whole only a fraction. Values, love, friendship, and integrity make the majority. Money without those things is meaningless.
Scott Galloway delivers the fucking best content. Cancel everything he’s not on and he can interview everyone…every single hack, bullshit artist, fraud, liar, and then some lying to themselves the mostly. Keep going Scott!
Thank you for this content. I learned a lot, especially about how two people with differing values can champion the same message.
The largest dose of optimism came from the idea that we should all be better friends; it fixes our problems better than any politician or corporate leader can.
Two of my favourite leaders right now
In Sikhism, The concept of seva, or selfless service to humanity, is a fundamental teaching of Guru Nanak. This emphasis on helping others without any expectation of reward promotes a sense of community and compassion. In the contemporary world, where humanitarian crises and social issues abound, the spirit of seva remains relevant. In corporate world, it's called moral obligation to give back .
You both are wonderful. In truth, you both love each other. And I agree that you agree on more than either of you know.
Wow, best pod I’ve watched in a long time. Melding of these two brilliant modern minds
It's so nice to see two people who fundamentally disagree with each other discussing and in the end....they agree the solution is not a revolution.
love scott. his logic is hard to deny. he lives in reality not in ideals. the money over love bit is hard to take but so true. simon can't handle it. great convo.
This was an amazing conversation. They agree on a couple of things and disagree on a couple, but still find a way to do it respectfully.
This was a really wonderful conversation, with necessary topical discourse. Appreciate you both.
Pure pure joy here, I think he will say I love at one point in the future Simon.
Scott Galloway needing a drink is such a mood!
I've never actually heard Simon be this blunt and open about what pisses him off. This is two guys who aren't out to 'get' each other and are just ready to roll their sleeves up and slug out the ideas. Great listen.
Let’s do a second episode. This is great. Love the balance. Good stuff. 🙏🏾
Yin and Yang, Excellent conversation, working together ❤
That was such a refreshing conversation! A true podcast. Not a talk show.
I would LOVE a podcast with Scott and Simon. ❤
My brain finds this convo very intellectually crisp 🤤 love it
Amazing podcast, I've watched a few with Scott and it's the first one where it's more of a debate than a traditional interview
Amazing and admirable conversation. Thank you for being role models in a world deprived of them
This is fantastic and I love the disagreeing between you two and how no one takes it personally. Its like being privy to a really good pub conversation.
I live in the Midwest. Our cities, states, neighborhoods, etc. have experienced severe weather this year (hail, thunderstorms, flooding, tornadoes, etc.) People have lost houses, loved ones, pets, their entire lives. Whenever one of these severe weather events impacts us, we mobilize and prepare to assist in any way that we can. I think this can be a solution to the current issues impacting our communities and our country.
We need to convince ourselves, our leaders, our politicians, and our civil servants that this is a severe weather event. We need to mobilize and prepare our troops to assist in any way that we can. We need to swallow our pride, roll up our sleeves, and prepare to sacrifice for our neighbors. Drastic changes can be made if we convince ourselves that this is reasonable, possible, and necessary.
No one will willingly give the government more tax dollars, but they will gladly help their neighbors. Let's start there.
It's wild how once you leave the midwest that "take care of your nieghor" mentality totally disappears. I remember when I moved to CO from MN and experienced an actual snow storm there. It was bizarre not seeing whole neighborhoods out shoveling and assisting each other or when cars were stuck in the ditch no one was helping. From CO to MYC on my first day here across the street I see women is struggling to enter a coffee shop with a stroller, not one person assisted in holding the door for her. I don't get it.
Amazing Podcast, One of the better discussions I have seen in years.
One of the Best! You two need to talk more.
Amazing conversation and great confrontation 55:14
The foundation was definitely laid at 48:05 😂
This was the best podcast episode I have ever heard.
I love Scott but on this occasion he came to delivery his messages and opinions at all cost. He didn’t once listen to Simon, kept trying to jump in, saying “uh huh” and dismissing Simon.
One of the best podcast eps I’ve ever heard. Maybe the best.
I loved this interview. Simon, you are the absolute best. Scott, you made some excellent points. Great job, guys!