A pair of podcasters pandering to younger generations for clicks. All of society, always pandering to the youth. I don't care about the youth. They get far too much attention. It's not good for them.
Simon the idealist and Scott the realist are a really good pair. Simon is where we should be, but Scott is where we are today, even if it's cold and sad.
@joshuamatheson6411 yeah I felt that tension but I think it’s a fine line of high energy vs aggression. They are both super passionate which makes for great viewing. Thankfully they are both respectful of one another. I wish political debates were more like this. In fact I wish one of them would be in politics but sadly the politics career path is not an attractive road for most intelligent well balanced people. The whole political system is pretty broken.
The main thing here is they heavily disagree to the point of aggressively wanting to get what they want but they BOTH want the same end result so they really aren't in conflict. The reality is that they are both right, we need a shift on both front and as the middle class we need to not wholly trust either of them to do it right. Set the two entities to hold each other accountable, business vs gov. They shouldn't be on the same side like they are now
i was thinking the same thing - they can call on each other’s BS and still sincerely smile and communicate effectively…i like this example. plus the conversation is rich too…win win.
I'd sign a petition for them to start one. Especially because they don't agree on a lot of stuff. The interesting part is it feels like they both want the same, they just argued on the efficiency of ways to get there
I'm a fan of both of these guys, and even more so after this. I think the podcast space has shifted to being far too agreeable and to have these two giants in their respective fields, agreeing, disagreeing and debating so openly is super refreshing!
Quite possibly the best Podcast I've listened to in years. I have three sons ages 35, 30 and 27 who fortunately are amazing young men who have already made significant strides in their lives and are still incredibly grounded and with whom I have very strong ties. I've shared this link with them hoping they'll listen to it so we can discuss their takes. Thank you for doing this, gentlemen.
Scott needs more of Simon’s smile. Simon needs more of Scott’s sarcasm. Maybe they’ll forge a union of thought that takes immediate action to produce that kinder gentler generation of compassionate capitalists and sincere philanthropists. Meanwhile, we small town middle class moderate thinking peace lovers are just trying to pay the rent. Thanks guys. Y’all are genius thinkers. Hope your ideas work! ✨
That’s just it. He’s not a sincere philanthropist. He admits he donates money not cause he cares or is altruistic but because it makes him feel better. I appreciate that fact that he’s not lying about it. But then he lies about politics. He’s like Trump should be in jail but then doesn’t call out democrats for electing Biden when he clearly had dementia even before he was elected. If he was sincere he would have pushed or said Bernie sanders should run for office! Like seriously I would have considered Bernie cause I knew Biden was mentally gone and a puppet. Bernie is mentally sound.
This was so refreshing, authentic, full of wisdom and common sense. This is exactly what we heed these days. Especially when we are facing a polarised discourse and the plague of hate in our society. We need both Sinek and Galloway.
Im 34 and im so tired of being told "oh its easy to make money , just invest, buy real estate, start a business" etc and im like i work 40-50 hours a week all ready and can barely pay my bills how the HELL am i going to have the time or capital to do any of that unless i already had it in the bank!!!!???
I had a coworker tell me a few months ago that it's easy to hit the $200k mark and it's the $300k per year that is a little hard. This was after I told him I never thought I'd make anywhere near my current salary of $80k.
lower your living expenses, save 100k even if it takes a few yesrs, and invest. you sound like you just spend your entire paycheck on a pricey lifestyle
Such a fair point. But we need to try our best, others won’t look after us. We won’t get state pension when we get there, not even here in the UK. So try your best.
You’re struggling to get ahead and you work 40-50 hours? You need to work more. Working 40-50 hours is fine if you’re ok with the status quo. I understand it’s not easy and it’s probably not what you want to hear, but it’s the truth.
After a very long time, I am watching a podcast where 2 people have a very serious conversation and are not just talking nice about each other and themselves just to promote their own content. 👏
This podcast made me laugh so hard with you guys. These two points of view are speaking the exact same language and is EXACTLY the conversation that we need in every billionaires board room and presidential election but not with empty words but with the wholehearted spirit you both just brought. I love you both and you two need to get like minded folks to make these same points with a couple other voices and see where it goes. Encore!
2 years out of College my generation got hit with Great Recession ‘08. Took me 10 years working 2 or 3 jobs/gigs to save enough to buy a home then I lost job ‘20 COVID and even though I found employment within a year, with a fam4 🏡 all my savings wiped gone. I know I’m not the only one in my 40s having to rebuild that wealth right along side Gen-Z.
Millennials got it worst in terms of previous generations...except, we did not have major wars. However, economy did not work on our favour at all, baby boomers were strongly lucky. I think gen Z understood some things better in terms of money and how to make it and sooner than us which seems to be a benefit for the future...but not sure what future holds. Maybe AI will mess all up. The good thing about being millennials is that we are in between, we still understand the past and we lived the beginning of the future, technology an so on, so we also connect with new generations. I do not agree the way this podcast ends up making money the centre of life, but is a reality that we need to have enough to not have to worry, and that is something Millennials have struggled from the start.
40's here too. After '08 I managed to rebuild again after 10 years too! However Covid finally ended me. Lost all my savings and have not been able to recover from it. Wages are lower and everything is more expensive. Decided not to have kids, as I can barely afford to survive myself.
I'm a little younger and was just starting to go to college when the great recession happened in 08. I did mostly everything right and was on the pathway to buying my first home when I lost my job in 2017 and started my current one that has a lower income. I did quite well during COVID, but I feel the financial pain now due to seeing my pay move closer to minimum wage than going up.
You graduated right before the longest bull run in history of the stock market, with housing prices reset right when you were coming into buying age. You had more opportunities and better timing than almost anyone outside of potentially the post WW2 boom.
I love how they are both able to hear each other's arguments, very quickly, simply, and usefully summarize each other in an educated way and then form opinion and conversation off it. VERY infrequently practiced skills today
Love this conversation! Scott is a great counter balance to the Noise of the world in these difficult days. Please have him back again, I so look forward to seeing him again on your channel.
Really enjoyed their dynamic. What a great duo and podcast. There are 3 layers to every problem: do we agree on the symptoms of the problem, do we agree on the root cause, do we agree on the solutions. They are in agreement more than disagreement. The central theme for solution between the both of them is humanity's ability to make sacrifices for the greater good. They are both optimistic but with different groups. I'm really trying to be optimistic but it is quite difficult for either corporations or government. Out of 7 companies I've worked for, only 1 truly put their money where their mouth is for social responsibility. As for the government, we just voted in DJT, need I say more. Fewer and fewer people make decisions for the greater good. Fewer and fewer people are willing to make sacrifices (for all aspects of life, work, marriage, friendships, your neighbors, etc). It's all me, me, me. Social media and AI is only make this worse. We are increasingly lonely, isolated, and self absorbed. So I agree on a tax on LLM computing to fund energy conservation innovation, a tax on social media companies and ads on social media to fund mental health programs, a tax on UPF to fund physical health programs, somehow tax airlines and cars to fund better public transportation infrastructure, etc. But even if we get brilliant economists and policy makers to come up with the best imperfect solution, will this ever pass? Probably not. Will Meta donate 0.1% of it's annual revenue each year which is ~ $100 million to mental health programs for teens and young adults? Probably not. We're just going around in a circle. But I believe it only takes a few leaders to do the right thing to start reversing the trajectory in our (collective) favor. But who will it be? What leaders will step up to the plate to do the hard but right thing against their best interests but for the greater good? I don't think it's DJT nor Elon Musk. So my question to Simon and Scott is who do they think these leaders are in both the private and public sectors? We need a call to action not for everyone but to those leaders.
Please do this again, maybe 2 or three times a year and make it specific issue focused. So much great thinking came from this. This was so great more of this please, brilliant 👏
When you ask “where are the people?” I think to myself, “it’s you”. You two are highly influential, intelligent, and articulate. RUN FOR OFFICE. It is your moral obligation to use your talents, knowledge, and advantages to step up for the country and young people. Please.
Love the show. Scott Galloway's a big influence to me. I think we have to accept that any future programs (even one's like UBI, but also specifically legislation) should not be counted on, if the wealthy lobby to have provisions in place to opt themselves out of subsidizing the public's financial struggle. The Calvary is not coming. The next president, whoever he/she is, is not our messiah. Politics is not the new religion, and the Calvary is not coming. We all have to keep fighting to increase our worth. Bless those like Mr. Galloway, who pulls upward those around him.
I am the oldest of a triplet of brothers and I can assure you, brothers at the ages of 12 to 17 have their little conflicts and irritations, but now that we are at the ages of 20 to 25, we are friends, since we actually slowly get to know each other as our adult selves. And I believe its simply because we have compassionate parents who respect each of us the way we are.
Best thing I saw online in a while. Good thinking here. My problem that Scott doesn´t touch is, what happens to taxes once it make to politicians hands.
Thank you very much for the honesty Scott. It’s always appreciated as a psychologist who sees what this is doing to people who would be in the upper middle class if it existed anymore and they could actually keep up with all the downgrades that are happening to the people that are struggling on the lowest end And feeling the squeeze myself of having to be superhuman to overcome a hamster will wear no matter how fast you run, you cannot win the race that is rigged. I just wanna say that your truth is really important and your courage to continue to tell it means a lot to a lot of people. I do feel that more than a psychologist doing normal psychological services and success, coaching, and focusing on people transforming themselves, it feels like I’m dealing with that entire litany of things that you’ve described that people are in such despair over and they are so enraged that if I were predicting what was gonna happen, I would say this would Be The lead up to a very bloody revolution and the truth is you can only downgrade people so much until they have nothing left to lose, but to finally gain power using any means they can and the last thing you want is a population of people that have been so put upon and so enslaved and extracted from That it’s like lighting a match on a massive global dumpster fire. These things used to be localized, but with social media, I see the biggest global revolution just smoldering and building into a massive wave of revolutionary change as if the population got to go to one of those places where you get to smash everything and take out your anger. Only this one is Real, and the level of rage people feel is so intense that they literally are becoming capable of crushing people who have kept them down the same way they have been crushed for way too long. I really wish we could see a world where you lovely gentlemen are in charge of everything
it is great to see 2 people with opposing views and ideals come together and have a meaningful discussion. We seem to either get people who constantly agree or argue, there isn't often this level of discourse.
This was an excellent exchange. Scott’s comment that there’s being correct and there’s being effective really nailed the issue. We need to focus more energy on identifying and implementing strategies that are effective.
My question is - where do we rediscover, derive, reignite, reimagine that "moral obligation"? I loved this so much. Idealism and pragmatism at their purest form clashing together in good spirit! Wherever they're coming from, I know that these two guys share in one important thing: a kind spirit.
I am just hypnotised when I see two intelectual individuals debating fairly and openly about anything. That’s actually what I currently miss the most when I talk to people do agree and disagree make we all rich and open minded. You should have a podcast together once a month to talk about different topics. I’ve learned so much from you guys, and I’m not talking only about English ( Scott Galloway speaks really fast 😂) he is testing my listening comprehension more than Cambridge Exams 😂😂😂. I LOVE YOU GUYS! I really do because I learn so much from you and thanks for that.
What a fantastic conversation that cuts deep into the American psyche and emotions as adults and living! Thank you for this conversation guys! I love it!
Thanks for this convo. I am so saddened by the economic reality which the people in early 20’s are facing. Even with 10 years older, I feel my economic reality graduating a decade back is better than what they are facing.
I have a ton of respect for them both and love that they are speaking about this. But they also need to realize they have the reach and resources to start driving these changes beyond bringing light to them. Start organizations based on your ideas, run or office or find someone you would want for office that you can promote and help campaign so they can make a change at a level that gets the ball rolling!
Both men are advocating for time. Friendships, community, and relationships require time and presence. However, most jobs are hourly workers which require both time and presence to be paid, which limits people’s time to be present for community events, loving others, and friendships. Paying more is one solution that could allow for more time and presence.
Great insight on this country's problems from both Scott and Simon. Problem with Scott is that is happiness is fleeting. He gets happiness only while is spending the money. He is not fully content. He would be absolutely unhappy if he lost his money. Wish Scott could feel complete without his "target" money.
There was a study that found more wealthy people become greedier they tend to be. Scott not only pays his employees well but believes in spending and improving others lives instead of hoarding. I much rather see people like Scott in our society than greedy and cheap who don’t care about others only for their own good and benefit.
@@OlgaSunny-pl2sg I mean...technically he's still hoarding relative to the average person if he's keeping his net worth flat at 9 figures while flying out his friends to Aspen to party. And he got to 9 figures by - in his own words - being a ruthless capitalist where as soon as someone cost more than the money they generated for his business, he fired them. I'll take the employer that does things with a little more compassion before they hit their 9 figure net worth.
He also has not Increased net worth in 7 years and gave a lot away. How many people in his position take friends to Aspen at their expense? He also notes he overpays people who do a great work I am sure there are reasons for his fires.
@@OlgaSunny-pl2sg I think you would be surprised to hear how many people with 9 figures pay for close friends/family to travel. It's pretty common and not something that really surprises me given what I've seen wealthy people do. I know people with 6 figure net worths - not even millionaire status - that take their families or friends on vacation. As for his net worth remaining flat for 7 years - it doesn't need to grow to be considered "hoarding." If Elon Musk's net worth didn't grow for the remainder of his life, would we really consider his multi-billion dollar status an example of an individual that wasn't hoarding? As for the reasons behind his firings - he laid it out pretty clearly himself. He said that if a person cost more than what they brought in for long enough, he would fire them. That's the approach and mentality that got him to 9 figures - not giving a fuck about people on the journey - and it's EXTREMELY convenient that now that he has 9 figures, he's willing to be generous - just so long as his 9 figure net worth remains flat. I'll admit I'm being a little uncharitable, but I think it's because I'm looking at Scott through his own worldview. He is literally the top .1%.
I really appreciate the way you both interact...the common ground found...the areas where you differ and still an exciting and thought provoking conversation. I dream of both these visions and prepare to sacrifice to see it happen.
I agree with Scott - on hitting the number and then spending and helping people. Hit mine a few years ago -and since then, can afford to be generous and love being that way. And , I agree with Simon ... pushing so hard to hit your number, (and then changing the number) can distract is from living a virtuous and happy life. They are both correct.
Please start a podcast. You two have similar and conflicting views, while managing to respect each other's position enough to talk it through. It's really great to hear.
This info from both is gold. Any of the two would make a great president in my opinion. I don’t know why you don’t get more capable and intelligent individuals like this to run for office.
I came across Scott G during his Ted talk where he talked about the love child. At that moment I thought to myself how awesome it would be to see Simon and Scott get together to make a love child podcast. Thank you guys, for making my dream come true in making this podcast.
I really appreciated this conversation. So refreshing and such great topics and insight into them. Thank you very much, please have a round 2, and 3, 4, 5~
Thank you for this content. I learned a lot, especially about how two people with differing values can champion the same message. The largest dose of optimism came from the idea that we should all be better friends; it fixes our problems better than any politician or corporate leader can.
Thank you Simon for always expounding my mind with the different guest who grace your podcast with lifetimes worth of knowledge compressed into a podcast episode.
I was born and raised in a town largely consisting of the 1%, my parents worked their way into the 5% category. Like Scott, I was obsessed with WW II history. The month I graduated college I enlisted in the military. Neighbors thought I had thrown my life away. It was the best thing I ever did. My sons will likely join as well as I will guide them that direction. If the wealthy don’t serve, our country will lose it’s soul.
I enjoyed this conversation but I found it frustrating at times. I think Scott completely missed Simon's point at 58:40 (people are pushing so hard to make their number [nevermind that everyone's number is going to be different...in Scott's case it was 9 figures, in my case, 7 figures] that it's at the cost of each other). I have absolutely seen people justify atrocious behavior under the assumption that after hitting some sort of milestones, they would be done. Simon's example of justifying laying people off to hit a number is salient at the moment and it absolutely blew my mind that Scott dismissed that as "not true" when less than ten minutes ago at 53:15 he talks about how on his journey to making 9 figures, he saw people in terms of two bubbles: how much money they made, and how much money they were adding, and if what they made was larger he'd fire them. This is exactly what Simon was talking about. A dehumanizing approach to "ruthless capitalism" as Scott puts it. And that's what got him to 9 figures. It's easy to be generous when you have that much excess. It's another thing entirely when you don't and manage to grow a business, while simultaneously treating people right. It's just very clear that Scott wasn't really listening or reflecting on what was being said.
Simon is hitting on a deeper point. Numbers don’t make up the whole only a fraction. Values, love, friendship, and integrity make the majority. Money without those things is meaningless.
A pair of smart men losing their ego and debating about things that actually matter in this world. Outstanding content.
I'm about to watch the presidential debates.. Should be equally insightful and productive 🤣
A pair of podcasters pandering to younger generations for clicks. All of society, always pandering to the youth.
I don't care about the youth. They get far too much attention. It's not good for them.
abso-freakin-lutely
I don’t think these two have lost their ego…
These are the kind of people who should be the leaders of a country.
Simon the idealist and Scott the realist are a really good pair. Simon is where we should be, but Scott is where we are today, even if it's cold and sad.
Wow! You guys really bounce off each other and aren’t afraid to call BS on each other’s claims. Please make Scott a repeat guest.
That was excellent. They could go for round two
@joshuamatheson6411 that's why it was so good! More please
@joshuamatheson6411 yeah I felt that tension but I think it’s a fine line of high energy vs aggression. They are both super passionate which makes for great viewing. Thankfully they are both respectful of one another. I wish political debates were more like this. In fact I wish one of them would be in politics but sadly the politics career path is not an attractive road for most intelligent well balanced people. The whole political system is pretty broken.
@@Taliatekito
Spot on…👏
The main thing here is they heavily disagree to the point of aggressively wanting to get what they want but they BOTH want the same end result so they really aren't in conflict.
The reality is that they are both right, we need a shift on both front and as the middle class we need to not wholly trust either of them to do it right.
Set the two entities to hold each other accountable, business vs gov. They shouldn't be on the same side like they are now
This is what an intellectually respectful debate look like
i was thinking the same thing - they can call on each other’s BS and still sincerely smile and communicate effectively…i like this example. plus the conversation is rich too…win win.
@@kbelle4138 exactly very rich debate
Ironic bc they yell at each other! It’s rare that someone yells and then backs down so this is definitely notable
these guys are both gay
They joked about starting a podcast together, but I’d totally watch that.
I'd sign a petition for them to start one. Especially because they don't agree on a lot of stuff. The interesting part is it feels like they both want the same, they just argued on the efficiency of ways to get there
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I'm a fan of both of these guys, and even more so after this. I think the podcast space has shifted to being far too agreeable and to have these two giants in their respective fields, agreeing, disagreeing and debating so openly is super refreshing!
This is gold. This is exactly what people should be talking and thinking about until it gets fixed!
Quite possibly the best Podcast I've listened to in years. I have three sons ages 35, 30 and 27 who fortunately are amazing young men who have already made significant strides in their lives and are still incredibly grounded and with whom I have very strong ties. I've shared this link with them hoping they'll listen to it so we can discuss their takes. Thank you for doing this, gentlemen.
This is the best podcast/interview I've heard all year. Rigorous, funny, psychoanalytic, and cathartic at the same time.
Scott needs more of Simon’s smile. Simon needs more of Scott’s sarcasm. Maybe they’ll forge a union of thought that takes immediate action to produce that kinder gentler generation of compassionate capitalists and sincere philanthropists. Meanwhile, we small town middle class moderate thinking peace lovers are just trying to pay the rent. Thanks guys. Y’all are genius thinkers. Hope your ideas work! ✨
That’s just it. He’s not a sincere philanthropist. He admits he donates money not cause he cares or is altruistic but because it makes him feel better. I appreciate that fact that he’s not lying about it.
But then he lies about politics. He’s like Trump should be in jail but then doesn’t call out democrats for electing Biden when he clearly had dementia even before he was elected. If he was sincere he would have pushed or said Bernie sanders should run for office! Like seriously I would have considered Bernie cause I knew Biden was mentally gone and a puppet. Bernie is mentally sound.
Or they just fuck
If they 69 they can combine like dragon ball z
This was so refreshing, authentic, full of wisdom and common sense.
This is exactly what we heed these days. Especially when we are facing a polarised discourse and the plague of hate in our society.
We need both Sinek and Galloway.
Im 34 and im so tired of being told "oh its easy to make money , just invest, buy real estate, start a business" etc and im like i work 40-50 hours a week all ready and can barely pay my bills how the HELL am i going to have the time or capital to do any of that unless i already had it in the bank!!!!???
I had a coworker tell me a few months ago that it's easy to hit the $200k mark and it's the $300k per year that is a little hard. This was after I told him I never thought I'd make anywhere near my current salary of $80k.
@@robertmorawe6054Goes to show you, you thought 80k$ wouldn't happen yet here we are. Keep pushing
lower your living expenses, save 100k even if it takes a few yesrs, and invest.
you sound like you just spend your entire paycheck on a pricey lifestyle
Such a fair point. But we need to try our best, others won’t look after us. We won’t get state pension when we get there, not even here in the UK. So try your best.
You’re struggling to get ahead and you work 40-50 hours? You need to work more. Working 40-50 hours is fine if you’re ok with the status quo. I understand it’s not easy and it’s probably not what you want to hear, but it’s the truth.
A+...Simon got more out of Galloway than I've seen anywhere else. Great content and chemistry.
I love how they disagreed and never disrespected each other. They joked and they disagreed vehemently at points, but they didn’t disrespect each other
After a very long time, I am watching a podcast where 2 people have a very serious conversation and are not just talking nice about each other and themselves just to promote their own content. 👏
This podcast made me laugh so hard with you guys. These two points of view are speaking the exact same language and is EXACTLY the conversation that we need in every billionaires board room and presidential election but not with empty words but with the wholehearted spirit you both just brought. I love you both and you two need to get like minded folks to make these same points with a couple other voices and see where it goes. Encore!
Really refreshing to see the respectful robust exchange between two people on a podcast!
What an awesome debate. A clash of ideas not personalities. How refreshing!
2 years out of College my generation got hit with Great Recession ‘08. Took me 10 years working 2 or 3 jobs/gigs to save enough to buy a home then I lost job ‘20 COVID and even though I found employment within a year, with a fam4 🏡 all my savings wiped gone. I know I’m not the only one in my 40s having to rebuild that wealth right along side Gen-Z.
We're about the same age, similar back story. Be a family man, I'm not rich, but it is working for me.
Millennials got it worst in terms of previous generations...except, we did not have major wars. However, economy did not work on our favour at all, baby boomers were strongly lucky. I think gen Z understood some things better in terms of money and how to make it and sooner than us which seems to be a benefit for the future...but not sure what future holds. Maybe AI will mess all up. The good thing about being millennials is that we are in between, we still understand the past and we lived the beginning of the future, technology an so on, so we also connect with new generations. I do not agree the way this podcast ends up making money the centre of life, but is a reality that we need to have enough to not have to worry, and that is something Millennials have struggled from the start.
40's here too. After '08 I managed to rebuild again after 10 years too! However Covid finally ended me. Lost all my savings and have not been able to recover from it. Wages are lower and everything is more expensive. Decided not to have kids, as I can barely afford to survive myself.
I'm a little younger and was just starting to go to college when the great recession happened in 08. I did mostly everything right and was on the pathway to buying my first home when I lost my job in 2017 and started my current one that has a lower income. I did quite well during COVID, but I feel the financial pain now due to seeing my pay move closer to minimum wage than going up.
You graduated right before the longest bull run in history of the stock market, with housing prices reset right when you were coming into buying age. You had more opportunities and better timing than almost anyone outside of potentially the post WW2 boom.
Finally heard something new from Professor G
That fool endorsed Kamala. Thats ridiculous
One of the best unadulterated conversations between two people at their peak of their professional success!!
It's fascinating how many moments in this conversation are not organic but instead Mr Galloway reciting his TED talk points and book
Two of my favourite people I've known through the internet, together on a podcast, just perfect!
That sequence on minutes 54:36 was gold🤣🤣. I appreciate the both of you so much. Thank you for your time!
I love how they are both able to hear each other's arguments, very quickly, simply, and usefully summarize each other in an educated way and then form opinion and conversation off it. VERY infrequently practiced skills today
Simon, Scott is so thoughtful. Thank you for having him! May your reach continue to expand.
His thoughts on covid are certainly full of shit.
Love this conversation! Scott is a great counter balance to the Noise of the world in these difficult days. Please have him back again, I so look forward to seeing him again on your channel.
Best conversation I’ve heard in months. Real, raw. Great points.
Really enjoyed their dynamic. What a great duo and podcast. There are 3 layers to every problem: do we agree on the symptoms of the problem, do we agree on the root cause, do we agree on the solutions. They are in agreement more than disagreement. The central theme for solution between the both of them is humanity's ability to make sacrifices for the greater good. They are both optimistic but with different groups. I'm really trying to be optimistic but it is quite difficult for either corporations or government. Out of 7 companies I've worked for, only 1 truly put their money where their mouth is for social responsibility. As for the government, we just voted in DJT, need I say more. Fewer and fewer people make decisions for the greater good. Fewer and fewer people are willing to make sacrifices (for all aspects of life, work, marriage, friendships, your neighbors, etc). It's all me, me, me. Social media and AI is only make this worse. We are increasingly lonely, isolated, and self absorbed. So I agree on a tax on LLM computing to fund energy conservation innovation, a tax on social media companies and ads on social media to fund mental health programs, a tax on UPF to fund physical health programs, somehow tax airlines and cars to fund better public transportation infrastructure, etc. But even if we get brilliant economists and policy makers to come up with the best imperfect solution, will this ever pass? Probably not. Will Meta donate 0.1% of it's annual revenue each year which is ~ $100 million to mental health programs for teens and young adults? Probably not. We're just going around in a circle. But I believe it only takes a few leaders to do the right thing to start reversing the trajectory in our (collective) favor. But who will it be? What leaders will step up to the plate to do the hard but right thing against their best interests but for the greater good? I don't think it's DJT nor Elon Musk. So my question to Simon and Scott is who do they think these leaders are in both the private and public sectors? We need a call to action not for everyone but to those leaders.
Please do this again, maybe 2 or three times a year and make it specific issue focused. So much great thinking came from this. This was so great more of this please, brilliant 👏
Yes. A revolution of intellect, economy, and values. Not violence and name-calling.
When you ask “where are the people?” I think to myself, “it’s you”. You two are highly influential, intelligent, and articulate. RUN FOR OFFICE. It is your moral obligation to use your talents, knowledge, and advantages to step up for the country and young people. Please.
Love the show. Scott Galloway's a big influence to me. I think we have to accept that any future programs (even one's like UBI, but also specifically legislation) should not be counted on, if the wealthy lobby to have provisions in place to opt themselves out of subsidizing the public's financial struggle. The Calvary is not coming. The next president, whoever he/she is, is not our messiah. Politics is not the new religion, and the Calvary is not coming. We all have to keep fighting to increase our worth. Bless those like Mr. Galloway, who pulls upward those around him.
Exactly, socialism is never the answer.
I am the oldest of a triplet of brothers and I can assure you, brothers at the ages of 12 to 17 have their little conflicts and irritations, but now that we are at the ages of 20 to 25, we are friends, since we actually slowly get to know each other as our adult selves. And I believe its simply because we have compassionate parents who respect each of us the way we are.
Amazing conversation and great confrontation 55:14
The foundation was definitely laid at 48:05 😂
Best thing I saw online in a while. Good thinking here. My problem that Scott doesn´t touch is, what happens to taxes once it make to politicians hands.
It’s crazy we’ve gone from “don’t speak to strangers” to “go out and speak to a stranger”
Thank you very much for the honesty Scott. It’s always appreciated as a psychologist who sees what this is doing to people who would be in the upper middle class if it existed anymore and they could actually keep up with all the downgrades that are happening to the people that are struggling on the lowest end And feeling the squeeze myself of having to be superhuman to overcome a hamster will wear no matter how fast you run, you cannot win the race that is rigged. I just wanna say that your truth is really important and your courage to continue to tell it means a lot to a lot of people. I do feel that more than a psychologist doing normal psychological services and success, coaching, and focusing on people transforming themselves, it feels like I’m dealing with that entire litany of things that you’ve described that people are in such despair over and they are so enraged that if I were predicting what was gonna happen, I would say this would Be The lead up to a very bloody revolution and the truth is you can only downgrade people so much until they have nothing left to lose, but to finally gain power using any means they can and the last thing you want is a population of people that have been so put upon and so enslaved and extracted from That it’s like lighting a match on a massive global dumpster fire. These things used to be localized, but with social media, I see the biggest global revolution just smoldering and building into a massive wave of revolutionary change as if the population got to go to one of those places where you get to smash everything and take out your anger. Only this one is Real, and the level of rage people feel is so intense that they literally are becoming capable of crushing people who have kept them down the same way they have been crushed for way too long. I really wish we could see a world where you lovely gentlemen are in charge of everything
it is great to see 2 people with opposing views and ideals come together and have a meaningful discussion.
We seem to either get people who constantly agree or argue, there isn't often this level of discourse.
Love the point about how we-middle folks-need to come together, being against extremists. Social media has divided people too much.
Amazing to witness the respect these two men showed each other.
Two of my favorite speakers in the same podcast. What a treat!
This was a wild ride. Wow, I love these two together. MORE!
I love this episode! thank you so much for sharing.
This was an excellent exchange. Scott’s comment that there’s being correct and there’s being effective really nailed the issue. We need to focus more energy on identifying and implementing strategies that are effective.
My question is - where do we rediscover, derive, reignite, reimagine that "moral obligation"?
I loved this so much. Idealism and pragmatism at their purest form clashing together in good spirit! Wherever they're coming from, I know that these two guys share in one important thing: a kind spirit.
I loved this so much, amazing to see two friends having an honest convo
I am just hypnotised when I see two intelectual individuals debating fairly and openly about anything. That’s actually what I currently miss the most when I talk to people do agree and disagree make we all rich and open minded. You should have a podcast together once a month to talk about different topics. I’ve learned so much from you guys, and I’m not talking only about English ( Scott Galloway speaks really fast 😂) he is testing my listening comprehension more than Cambridge Exams 😂😂😂. I LOVE YOU GUYS! I really do because I learn so much from you and thanks for that.
I love Scott Galloway...BOOM! He says it all. He's my favorite Monday podcast.
Both great guys with lots of heart and diametrically opposite perspectives at times. Great conversation and great to see you're both still friends.
This is the ULTIMATE match up, was waiting for this. Scott the ultimate gangster and Simon the preacher! IYKNYK-BOOM!!
GALLOWAY IS A COWARD WHO DON'T DEBATE
100% This should be an open ongoing conversation. I love it!
These two need to create a week to week podcast show!
Man-- the fathers of modern leadership and healthy capitalism are entertaining and also inspiring
What a fantastic conversation that cuts deep into the American psyche and emotions as adults and living! Thank you for this conversation guys! I love it!
It was fun listening to you two argue. Great episode!
Thanks for this convo. I am so saddened by the economic reality which the people in early 20’s are facing. Even with 10 years older, I feel my economic reality graduating a decade back is better than what they are facing.
Scott Galloway = spirit animal.
I have a ton of respect for them both and love that they are speaking about this. But they also need to realize they have the reach and resources to start driving these changes beyond bringing light to them. Start organizations based on your ideas, run or office or find someone you would want for office that you can promote and help campaign so they can make a change at a level that gets the ball rolling!
Both men are advocating for time. Friendships, community, and relationships require time and presence. However, most jobs are hourly workers which require both time and presence to be paid, which limits people’s time to be present for community events, loving others, and friendships. Paying more is one solution that could allow for more time and presence.
A lot of Scott’s points made a ton of sense to me before but leave it to Simon to set me straight. Great dialogue! 🌟
This Guy needs to run for President!
Hands down one of the best interviews with Scott I have seen lately
Yes, so good they took off the gloves! All hell broke out and, didn’t need a whole pot of coffee this morning ❤
Thank you! I enjoyed it so much, hope to see Prof G here again.
The new Odd Couple. Both intellectually brilliant. I love both of these guys!
This is one of the best podcasts I have ever learned. I learned so much. Thank you Simon and Scott. I love you guys. No homo.
This was by FAR, one rhe BEST thought provoking PODCAST I've listened to! AAHH-MAZING ❤❤❤
This was a really wonderful conversation, with necessary topical discourse. Appreciate you both.
Amazing Podcast, One of the better discussions I have seen in years.
What a great discussion. This is humanity 101.
Great insight on this country's problems from both Scott and Simon. Problem with Scott is that is happiness is fleeting. He gets happiness only while is spending the money. He is not fully content. He would be absolutely unhappy if he lost his money. Wish Scott could feel complete without his "target" money.
There was a study that found more wealthy people become greedier they tend to be. Scott not only pays his employees well but believes in spending and improving others lives instead of hoarding. I much rather see people like Scott in our society than greedy and cheap who don’t care about others only for their own good and benefit.
@@OlgaSunny-pl2sg I mean...technically he's still hoarding relative to the average person if he's keeping his net worth flat at 9 figures while flying out his friends to Aspen to party.
And he got to 9 figures by - in his own words - being a ruthless capitalist where as soon as someone cost more than the money they generated for his business, he fired them.
I'll take the employer that does things with a little more compassion before they hit their 9 figure net worth.
@najla2 Hit the nail on the head.
He also has not Increased net worth in 7 years and gave a lot away. How many people in his position take friends to Aspen at their expense? He also notes he overpays people who do a great work I am sure there are reasons for his fires.
@@OlgaSunny-pl2sg I think you would be surprised to hear how many people with 9 figures pay for close friends/family to travel. It's pretty common and not something that really surprises me given what I've seen wealthy people do. I know people with 6 figure net worths - not even millionaire status - that take their families or friends on vacation.
As for his net worth remaining flat for 7 years - it doesn't need to grow to be considered "hoarding." If Elon Musk's net worth didn't grow for the remainder of his life, would we really consider his multi-billion dollar status an example of an individual that wasn't hoarding?
As for the reasons behind his firings - he laid it out pretty clearly himself. He said that if a person cost more than what they brought in for long enough, he would fire them. That's the approach and mentality that got him to 9 figures - not giving a fuck about people on the journey - and it's EXTREMELY convenient that now that he has 9 figures, he's willing to be generous - just so long as his 9 figure net worth remains flat.
I'll admit I'm being a little uncharitable, but I think it's because I'm looking at Scott through his own worldview. He is literally the top .1%.
Great conversation, honest, genuine, funny and wonderfully refreshing. Please have more of these. Spread these throughout the mainstream.
Great content! Thanks for sharing you two
Until this interview I have never read or listened to Scott but I thoroughly enjoyed his perspective in this discussion. Thank you both!
Hilarious and soul nourishing. We need more men like that!
wow thats the highest point of disagreement and at the same time respecting each other
Amazing podcast, I've watched a few with Scott and it's the first one where it's more of a debate than a traditional interview
I really appreciate the way you both interact...the common ground found...the areas where you differ and still an exciting and thought provoking conversation.
I dream of both these visions and prepare to sacrifice to see it happen.
I agree with Scott - on hitting the number and then spending and helping people. Hit mine a few years ago -and since then, can afford to be generous and love being that way. And , I agree with Simon ... pushing so hard to hit your number, (and then changing the number) can distract is from living a virtuous and happy life. They are both correct.
Please start a podcast. You two have similar and conflicting views, while managing to respect each other's position enough to talk it through. It's really great to hear.
This info from both is gold. Any of the two would make a great president in my opinion. I don’t know why you don’t get more capable and intelligent individuals like this to run for office.
I came across Scott G during his Ted talk where he talked about the love child. At that moment I thought to myself how awesome it would be to see Simon and Scott get together to make a love child podcast. Thank you guys, for making my dream come true in making this podcast.
I really appreciated this conversation. So refreshing and such great topics and insight into them. Thank you very much, please have a round 2, and 3, 4, 5~
Thank you for this content. I learned a lot, especially about how two people with differing values can champion the same message.
The largest dose of optimism came from the idea that we should all be better friends; it fixes our problems better than any politician or corporate leader can.
Thank you Simon for always expounding my mind with the different guest who grace your podcast with lifetimes worth of knowledge compressed into a podcast episode.
Wow, best pod I’ve watched in a long time. Melding of these two brilliant modern minds
Amazing and admirable conversation. Thank you for being role models in a world deprived of them
I was born and raised in a town largely consisting of the 1%, my parents worked their way into the 5% category. Like Scott, I was obsessed with WW II history. The month I graduated college I enlisted in the military. Neighbors thought I had thrown my life away. It was the best thing I ever did. My sons will likely join as well as I will guide them that direction. If the wealthy don’t serve, our country will lose it’s soul.
You both are wonderful. In truth, you both love each other. And I agree that you agree on more than either of you know.
I enjoyed this conversation but I found it frustrating at times. I think Scott completely missed Simon's point at 58:40 (people are pushing so hard to make their number [nevermind that everyone's number is going to be different...in Scott's case it was 9 figures, in my case, 7 figures] that it's at the cost of each other).
I have absolutely seen people justify atrocious behavior under the assumption that after hitting some sort of milestones, they would be done. Simon's example of justifying laying people off to hit a number is salient at the moment and it absolutely blew my mind that Scott dismissed that as "not true" when less than ten minutes ago at 53:15 he talks about how on his journey to making 9 figures, he saw people in terms of two bubbles: how much money they made, and how much money they were adding, and if what they made was larger he'd fire them.
This is exactly what Simon was talking about. A dehumanizing approach to "ruthless capitalism" as Scott puts it.
And that's what got him to 9 figures.
It's easy to be generous when you have that much excess. It's another thing entirely when you don't and manage to grow a business, while simultaneously treating people right.
It's just very clear that Scott wasn't really listening or reflecting on what was being said.
I don’t think you were supposed to actually listen to this.
You guys are the candidates, make the jump to being true civil servants and run for office
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I loved this interview. Simon, you are the absolute best. Scott, you made some excellent points. Great job, guys!
48:30 a funny but real point. I think this is my biggest takeaway. being more generous with "yes"
Scott Galloway really needs to run for president....
I never heard of either of these gentlemen but it was a great listen. Thank you.
Yin and Yang, Excellent conversation, working together ❤
Two of my favourite leaders right now
Scott Galloway, Scares the hell out of me! Wealthy well-meaning and terrifying. I'm surprised that I'm the only one.
Loved the conversation
That was such a refreshing conversation! A true podcast. Not a talk show.
Simon is hitting on a deeper point. Numbers don’t make up the whole only a fraction. Values, love, friendship, and integrity make the majority. Money without those things is meaningless.