For the posture, what helps me is thinking about leading from the hip area as opposed to the shoulders. If you feel like your hips push forward, it automatically straightens your back.
This is good stuff, but I have a four-step approach. Over the last couple of weeks, I've been working on three things: not bouncing on the first step, keeping my head level throughout the approach and extending my balance arm through the delivery. The first one has been really hard for me, but doing the second one makes the first one easier to do. Last night, I was focused on the third one to the point where there were times I wasn't sure where I was throwing it until I released it: 219-202-230=651 series. What's been a big help for me is repeating two simple words when I set up: *Do less.* Don't try to crank, don't rip through the ball, don't rush, and follow through on the shot.
I have the opposite trail leg problem. Mine is too much behind me. Which is why I'm better playing straight than playing left and projecting to the right. But I didn't attribute the issue to the trail leg. So now I have something new to try and change. Thank you.
I was working on my spine tilt with my coach this weekend, we identified three points in my approach where I lean forward so the focus was just the first step for now, and we’ll see how that affects the rest of the approach. I found trying to lead with my hips and feet helped. I also notice I have a tendency to push my shoulders forward so I tried extend my arms to the push away while keeping my shoulders back and that started to help as well. As you said, it feels weird as hell but over emphasizing is the way to go.
Glad to see Kyle getting back to practice. That said, it would be nice to have a video come out from you two talking about resuming practice after injuries. Maybe it could be common things like sprains, muscle inflammation/tears, carpal tunnel, etc.
this is so refreshing to watch. im sorry you're struggling with the feel of what you're working on, kyle. that's so frustrating! it really helps validate my own frustration when im trying to work on my game too lol
So helpful for us mortals to know that even the greats struggle through this type of evolution. I had the pleasure of watching you guys bowl D/S in Vegas. I could see the struggle in your face, but your conduct was exemplary. You guys handle yourselves much better than a lot of your contemporaries. That is a big reason why I root for your guys. Your respect for the game and your fellow competitors is beyond reproach. Thank you for that!
This is some of the stuff I was working on yesterday during my practice session. Didn't think about my trail leg. Gives me some more incite as to why. Great stuff, thanks
Appreciate the advice from the two of u, always something to learn or improve on. You’re never too pro to learn something new or smooth out what ya got.
Very inspiring to see you guys still having things to work on such as this. What I love about this game is that you can never be perfect, it’s about the pursuit of it.
I really liked this video. Right now I am trying to fix drifting to the right on my shot by actively thinking to walk left on my approach. Me thinking I'm walking left but reviewing the video and seeing I actually do walk straighter on those attempts is mindboggling to me. Keep up your practice and I will continue to work on mine!
Great as always. I am 79. Boy have I, with a 4 step, tried to adjust the ball and steps. I have the problem that I lean over at the line which reduces strong follow through. Any suggestions on how to stay up right.
Moving to a 5 step helped me. More momentum through the approach, proper pivot step, and deeper knee bend through the slide all keep you from leaning over or breaking at the waist. This Kegel training video really helped me visualize what I was doing wrong ruclips.net/video/C2VQ8Sd1yoA/видео.html
For me it's great to see and hear that these tips you give doesn't come easy or natural to you as well. I try practicing alot of these tips you talk about and struggle. But it encourages me that you have to put just as much work as I do.
I haven't bowled for two decades but this brought back memories of coaching lessons back in the early 1990s. I had the opposite problem of Kyle in that I held the ball in the first and second steps of a 5 step approach which created late timing, pulling down from the backswing and grabbing at the release. The solution was exactly what Kyle was NOT trying to do, which was focusing on bringing the ball DOWN quickly as soon as the second step commenced. And yes, it felt VERY awkward.
This is awesome to see. I play tennis and I know this all too well. We have to over exaggerate grips and angles just to get the right thing. That's why I love bowling also. This video gave me a lot to work on next session.
Thanks to Brad for that great tip you gave Kyle on keeping the ball tuck in close to his chest to improve his bowling. I practiced that tip today and it help me with my timing, ability to create more sideways rotation and post nearly eevery shot. I see that tip having a great effect on my scoring this year. Thanks a bunch.
Lol you move it like crazy! It’s so hard to beat muscle memory! Try putting the ball physically on your chest in the setup. That way you can feel where it’s at when you drop into the swing. Like Brad said, you’re gonna have to trick your body
love to see this type of practice. I signed up for a membership a couple of day ago. Can't wait to be processed so I can bring this type of coaching into my game
This video was great! Definitely relatable. Thanks for sharing. Could you guys make a video for learning to play the down and inside part of the ball at release? Or, keeping your backswing straight back in line with your head vs coming behind your back? Thanks!
This is exactly what I am struggling with, only differences is I push the ball up and out. I shift my hips the same way, very frustrating. I can bowl really good then tank for a few weeks until I find my way. Bowling can be very frustrating at times. Thank you for the video
Possible idea... mo pinnel taught me this back 25 yrs ago at a bowling school. When u are set on approach. Lift your first step leg ( right handed left foot for me was right foot as lefty.) I had the same issue.i was always getting ball into swing way to fast. That really slowed me down and worked extremely well. Don't have to raise foot a lot just enough to get of the approach
“Not moving the ball on the first step.” Mike Shady mentioned the exact same thing to me during a camp in June. It’s really tough to work on and get down after a few decades of moving the ball on the first step. I’m getting much better at it with practice, but still do such too often. I wish you well in recovering from your back injury and also in your practice habits, Kyle.
I would work on keeping the hips square to the foul line. You are losing a lot of ball torque or drive thru the pins. Use a five pound weight on your right leg. Review film of Bo Burton, he had a good approach to the foul line. As far as your swing goes, I would review film of Tommy Hudson. He always pushed the ball up and forward. Well, thats my two cents worth. Good luck !!
Ironing board is the perfect term hahaha... These are exactly the same things I have been trying to adjust for a yr now!! As well as balance at the line. It is not easy my friend ... I have found that leaning forward on the push away promotes being too low at the release point and I might have a tendency to bounce the ball before I can actually release it. My entire style has changed in the last yr and I've actually done this several times over the past 6 months but I am working on it and standing straighter.
After years of bowling one particular way the muscle memory is set! It take 3000 correct repetition to change muscle memory. So you need to break it down into segments in order to correct a problem. If you're going full attack while you're trying to break a habit is very difficult. . Break each thing that your working on to it's simplest form. Do 10 two step drills take a break and do it again. The first two steps can be done in the comfort of your own home. Change is tough because your body doesn't like stress and discomfort, so it's always going to take the easy way out and that includes bowling.
I recently got a lesson from Perry Crowell at Turbo and this was one of the things he had me work on. For me, he said to basically stand straight up through my first two steps.
I worked on my trail leg with Mike Jasnau last month and I had a similar issue with getting my trail leg in the right position. I struggle to stay more vertical with good spine tilt. I’ve had a tendency to bend from my back instead of my knees. I need advice on how to bend from the knees instead of the back, and also keeping my trail leg on the ground and in the right spot. Thanks guys, this was another great video with great content and tips. Couldn’t help but giggle a few times, lol. Love your funny antics.
I do the opposite, I'm too upright. My biggest issue for years has been getting the ball on the lane sooner. I work on it all the time but always lands around 3 feet out.
Muscle Memory plays a large part in your bowling form. It's hard to change what seems natural because of years of repetition. On the slide, your hips going one way and your upper body going the opposite could lead to back injuries. Hard to bowl when a muscle cramps up.
Correct, a pro gave me a tip awhile back, I lift a 20lb dumbell while standing in my release position. I found that it helps with muscle memory and balance when in the finish position of posting the shot
Great insight to things that Kyle is working on! I have also been struggling with a bit with too much spine tilt during my approach which was also causing my ball being in the swing to early... What i found helped me is just keeping my shoulder back , it feels very awkward.. but i have had a few sessions trying it out now and things are feeling much better, my timing is pretty much back and feel i have time at release to do what i need!! Keep working Kyle!! Awesome Video guys
I struggle with the bottom half. Where to plant my slide foot in relation to what board I started from, how far my ball is from foot and how square I am at delivery. I tend to have ball 7-12 boards right of plant foot.
Took a group lesson with Walter Ray a few months back. He completely changed my approach during the 1 on 1. He moved me up and right of center about 10 on the approach. He straightened me up, changed me from a 5 step to a 4 step, and had me moving the ball straight forward with the 1st step on the right foot. My brain was a mess for about a week but once I got comfortable it made a 15-20 pin difference in my game. Great video Gents.
For that first step, try doing the entire approach without ever moving the ball from the setup position. It's a dry run, or mock approach, only without any ball motion or arm swing. Then back it all up - start the ball moving straight toward the panels above the pins (I forget what those are called) only as you begin your last step in the approach; for you, the 5th step. And all the ball ever does is go straight toward the panels at the far end of the lane. Then back it up, and start the ball motion with the 4th step, but nothing more than pushing the ball straight toward the panels. Then so on until you push the ball forward on the second step. Each trial, as you push the ball forward, maintain the ball in its "pushed forward" position while you continue the 5 steps, only without swinging the ball or making a slide. It's just to finish out 5 steps. When you're comfortable doing that on the second step, then implement the entire arm swing and approach, including release. At every point in the process, you can practice the motions in mock form, by which I mean "without actually releasing the ball". This is just to make progress without the extra time required for the ball to go down the lane, and for the pins to reset; and without paying for lineage duh.
Brad has an awesome approach. Kyle has to be one of the best simple and clean approaches on the tour atm imo. Just a delight for me to watch. I will say I enjoy D_Tang and his approach too, maybe not quite as smooth as Kyle but still some great approaches to try and copy or learn from. I will say sorry to Packy, as a two hander, it just ... it does the job but all two handers look a mess to me... no disrespect meant. They'd all kick my ass on tour lane! Keep the content coming, I'm enjoying it all! I wish the UK had anything near what you guys have in the way of equipment and lanes!
Anyone ever heard of "Kicking the Box with the trail leg"? What tips can be used to keep the ball side arm straight from push away, throughout down swing and back swing to apex of arc and straight until just before release point? Are there any tips drill that can help free up the arm so that you done muscle the ball throughout the swing motion?
It's crazy one of the things Kyle is working on is a pushaway because I just went to Bowling IQ for a session and I normally take 4 steps (right hand bowler btw) & they advised me to take 5 steps and try to do my pushaway on the second step. I'm still trying to get used to it, moving like a statue pretty much, after my third step I kinda take a hop and I'm trying to eliminate the hop and either take my last 2 steps normally or add in a slide and I have been struggling with that
How are your thumbs pitched? All I’ve seen online is the thumb is “a little forward” but doesn’t specifically say it’s actually forward or still reversed but not much.
Very helpful, guys! Actually nice to see you somewhat struggle with the changes. It's easy to become frustrated when working on something different, and it definitely helps having a great bowler (take a bow, Brad) to give you instant feedback! I think that one of my issues is that I bowl with my brother, sister, and daughter, and they all throw straight with lower averages (120-150). It would no doubt help if I bowled with higher average/more serious bowlers.
The struggle is real. I get too far forward in my first two steps as well and that causes me to pull down on the ball in the backswing (my wrist will bend forward and i end up turning the ball on the downswing). So Kyle, when you figure it out, please let us poor saps know :).
What’s the problem with your timing and how is it translating to the ball on the lane? Are you seeing a different/wrong/unintended shape if you have the ball timed differently in your approach? Is it about longevity?
I need to learn how to stop wrapping the ball behind my back I average 205 in league people been saying if it works don't try to fix it works my bicep so much which tells me I'm muscling it big time
Try a little more knee bend and a couple degrees more spine tilt. You let your body float on top of the hips. When you get it right your head never moves. IMO.
According to coaches, do they recommend the trail leg to be touching the approach on release? The reason I ask, is because my leg is at 6-8 o'clock but is also 2-3 feet in the air. 😂
When my brother and I took lessons together we were initially taught to have the toe touch the ground, but as we progressed I kept it but my brother liked raising his leg. No difference in balance between the 2 of us so i guess whatever works for you is fine
it happens when you release the ball too near to the ground. this has few reasons because you drop shoulder or have to much spine tilt at release i also have that issue and im trying to eliminate it
Love seeing the 'behind the scenes' practices like this.
More of this. I'm stoked to join the membership now.
Thanks for being transparent, Kyle
Just re-watched this video for the third time... Such good information here.
For the posture, what helps me is thinking about leading from the hip area as opposed to the shoulders. If you feel like your hips push forward, it automatically straightens your back.
I feel you on the start. I have a tendency to pull the ball up and if I am not allowing for it properly, shot goes out the window ...
Cool video talk tech bowling brad and Kyle
A yardstick drill may help from leaning over..... Yardstick against your back and tucked into your waistband.....
This is good stuff, but I have a four-step approach. Over the last couple of weeks, I've been working on three things: not bouncing on the first step, keeping my head level throughout the approach and extending my balance arm through the delivery. The first one has been really hard for me, but doing the second one makes the first one easier to do. Last night, I was focused on the third one to the point where there were times I wasn't sure where I was throwing it until I released it: 219-202-230=651 series. What's been a big help for me is repeating two simple words when I set up: *Do less.* Don't try to crank, don't rip through the ball, don't rush, and follow through on the shot.
I have the opposite trail leg problem. Mine is too much behind me. Which is why I'm better playing straight than playing left and projecting to the right. But I didn't attribute the issue to the trail leg. So now I have something new to try and change. Thank you.
This is the exact same things I've been working on all summer. Good job fellas
I was working on my spine tilt with my coach this weekend, we identified three points in my approach where I lean forward so the focus was just the first step for now, and we’ll see how that affects the rest of the approach. I found trying to lead with my hips and feet helped. I also notice I have a tendency to push my shoulders forward so I tried extend my arms to the push away while keeping my shoulders back and that started to help as well. As you said, it feels weird as hell but over emphasizing is the way to go.
Glad to see Kyle getting back to practice. That said, it would be nice to have a video come out from you two talking about resuming practice after injuries. Maybe it could be common things like sprains, muscle inflammation/tears, carpal tunnel, etc.
Nice video. Fun unedited! I actually picked up 3 problems in my own game just in this short video. Thanks once again!
this is so refreshing to watch. im sorry you're struggling with the feel of what you're working on, kyle. that's so frustrating! it really helps validate my own frustration when im trying to work on my game too lol
So helpful for us mortals to know that even the greats struggle through this type of evolution. I had the pleasure of watching you guys bowl D/S in Vegas. I could see the struggle in your face, but your conduct was exemplary. You guys handle yourselves much better than a lot of your contemporaries. That is a big reason why I root for your guys. Your respect for the game and your fellow competitors is beyond reproach. Thank you for that!
This is some of the stuff I was working on yesterday during my practice session. Didn't think about my trail leg. Gives me some more incite as to why. Great stuff, thanks
Mike had me practice the same stuff when I worked with him last year. Excited to see him again this year to see how I've done.
Bill O'Neal projects his chin forward, and I feel it's to keep his ball motion level in the push-away.
Appreciate the advice from the two of u, always something to learn or improve on. You’re never too pro to learn something new or smooth out what ya got.
Very inspiring to see you guys still having things to work on such as this. What I love about this game is that you can never be perfect, it’s about the pursuit of it.
Among MANY other things, the two concepts mentioned in this video are areas I also need to improve. Very happy you covered these topics. Thanks!
I really liked this video. Right now I am trying to fix drifting to the right on my shot by actively thinking to walk left on my approach. Me thinking I'm walking left but reviewing the video and seeing I actually do walk straighter on those attempts is mindboggling to me. Keep up your practice and I will continue to work on mine!
Great as always. I am 79. Boy have I, with a 4 step, tried to adjust the ball and steps. I have the problem that I lean over at the line which reduces strong follow through. Any suggestions on how to stay up right.
Moving to a 5 step helped me. More momentum through the approach, proper pivot step, and deeper knee bend through the slide all keep you from leaning over or breaking at the waist.
This Kegel training video really helped me visualize what I was doing wrong
ruclips.net/video/C2VQ8Sd1yoA/видео.html
For me it's great to see and hear that these tips you give doesn't come easy or natural to you as well. I try practicing alot of these tips you talk about and struggle. But it encourages me that you have to put just as much work as I do.
Great video as always! I would love love love to see a video, or several, on ball drilling and how layouts affect the ball motion.
I haven't bowled for two decades but this brought back memories of coaching lessons back in the early 1990s. I had the opposite problem of Kyle in that I held the ball in the first and second steps of a 5 step approach which created late timing, pulling down from the backswing and grabbing at the release. The solution was exactly what Kyle was NOT trying to do, which was focusing on bringing the ball DOWN quickly as soon as the second step commenced. And yes, it felt VERY awkward.
This is awesome to see. I play tennis and I know this all too well. We have to over exaggerate grips and angles just to get the right thing. That's why I love bowling also. This video gave me a lot to work on next session.
Thanks to Brad for that great tip you gave Kyle on keeping the ball tuck in close to his chest to improve his bowling. I practiced that tip today and it help me with my timing, ability to create more sideways rotation and post nearly eevery shot. I see that tip having a great effect on my scoring this year. Thanks a bunch.
Lol you move it like crazy! It’s so hard to beat muscle memory! Try putting the ball physically on your chest in the setup. That way you can feel where it’s at when you drop into the swing. Like Brad said, you’re gonna have to trick your body
love to see this type of practice. I signed up for a membership a couple of day ago. Can't wait to be processed so I can bring this type of coaching into my game
I wish I could practice. My league bowling is my practice bc of work schedule
This video was great! Definitely relatable. Thanks for sharing. Could you guys make a video for learning to play the down and inside part of the ball at release? Or, keeping your backswing straight back in line with your head vs coming behind your back? Thanks!
This is exactly what I am struggling with, only differences is I push the ball up and out. I shift my hips the same way, very frustrating. I can bowl really good then tank for a few weeks until I find my way. Bowling can be very frustrating at times. Thank you for the video
Picked up something I need to work on; that first crossover step. Good, helpful video.
Possible idea... mo pinnel taught me this back 25 yrs ago at a bowling school. When u are set on approach. Lift your first step leg ( right handed left foot for me was right foot as lefty.) I had the same issue.i was always getting ball into swing way to fast. That really slowed me down and worked extremely well.
Don't have to raise foot a lot just enough to get of the approach
“Not moving the ball on the first step.”
Mike Shady mentioned the exact same thing to me during a camp in June. It’s really tough to work on and get down after a few decades of moving the ball on the first step. I’m getting much better at it with practice, but still do such too often.
I wish you well in recovering from your back injury and also in your practice habits, Kyle.
I would work on keeping the hips square to the foul line. You are losing a lot of ball torque or drive thru the pins. Use a five pound weight on your right leg. Review film of Bo Burton, he had a good approach to the foul line. As far as your swing goes, I would review film of Tommy Hudson. He always pushed the ball up and forward. Well, thats my two cents worth. Good luck !!
@@dougmcneely6841 These are actually some good tips to work into my practice routine. Thank you for them.
Ironing board is the perfect term hahaha... These are exactly the same things I have been trying to adjust for a yr now!! As well as balance at the line. It is not easy my friend ... I have found that leaning forward on the push away promotes being too low at the release point and I might have a tendency to bounce the ball before I can actually release it.
My entire style has changed in the last yr and I've actually done this several times over the past 6 months but I am working on it and standing straighter.
5-7-10 and a half! So great! Will be working on this tonight thanks again lads!!
After years of bowling one particular way the muscle memory is set! It take 3000 correct repetition to change muscle memory. So you need to break it down into segments in order to correct a problem. If you're going full attack while you're trying to break a habit is very difficult. . Break each thing that your working on to it's simplest form. Do 10 two step drills take a break and do it again. The first two steps can be done in the comfort of your own home. Change is tough because your body doesn't like stress and discomfort, so it's always going to take the easy way out and that includes bowling.
I recently got a lesson from Perry Crowell at Turbo and this was one of the things he had me work on. For me, he said to basically stand straight up through my first two steps.
Crazy how Much detail is in the game
I worked on my trail leg with Mike Jasnau last month and I had a similar issue with getting my trail leg in the right position. I struggle to stay more vertical with good spine tilt. I’ve had a tendency to bend from my back instead of my knees. I need advice on how to bend from the knees instead of the back, and also keeping my trail leg on the ground and in the right spot. Thanks guys, this was another great video with great content and tips. Couldn’t help but giggle a few times, lol. Love your funny antics.
Great video. Really appreciate hearing you two talk through the learning process
I do the opposite, I'm too upright. My biggest issue for years has been getting the ball on the lane sooner. I work on it all the time but always lands around 3 feet out.
Muscle Memory plays a large part in your bowling form. It's hard to change what seems natural because of years of repetition. On the slide, your hips going one way and your upper body going the opposite could lead to back injuries. Hard to bowl when a muscle cramps up.
Correct, a pro gave me a tip awhile back, I lift a 20lb dumbell while standing in my release position. I found that it helps with muscle memory and balance when in the finish position of posting the shot
Great insight to things that Kyle is working on!
I have also been struggling with a bit with too much spine tilt during my approach which was also causing my ball being in the swing to early... What i found helped me is just keeping my shoulder back , it feels very awkward.. but i have had a few sessions trying it out now and things are feeling much better, my timing is pretty much back and feel i have time at release to do what i need!!
Keep working Kyle!! Awesome Video guys
Loved the more "uncut" format
I had the same problem. I now push the ball at my mark on that second step.
I struggle with the bottom half. Where to plant my slide foot in relation to what board I started from, how far my ball is from foot and how square I am at delivery. I tend to have ball 7-12 boards right of plant foot.
I have a similar issue with where to stand on the approach as well.
Fantastic video, would love to see body position and swing plan for playing inside. It's something I struggle with and and trying to work on.
Took a group lesson with Walter Ray a few months back. He completely changed my approach during the 1 on 1. He moved me up and right of center about 10 on the approach. He straightened me up, changed me from a 5 step to a 4 step, and had me moving the ball straight forward with the 1st step on the right foot. My brain was a mess for about a week but once I got comfortable it made a 15-20 pin difference in my game. Great video Gents.
For that first step, try doing the entire approach without ever moving the ball from the setup position. It's a dry run, or mock approach, only without any ball motion or arm swing. Then back it all up - start the ball moving straight toward the panels above the pins (I forget what those are called) only as you begin your last step in the approach; for you, the 5th step. And all the ball ever does is go straight toward the panels at the far end of the lane. Then back it up, and start the ball motion with the 4th step, but nothing more than pushing the ball straight toward the panels. Then so on until you push the ball forward on the second step. Each trial, as you push the ball forward, maintain the ball in its "pushed forward" position while you continue the 5 steps, only without swinging the ball or making a slide. It's just to finish out 5 steps. When you're comfortable doing that on the second step, then implement the entire arm swing and approach, including release. At every point in the process, you can practice the motions in mock form, by which I mean "without actually releasing the ball". This is just to make progress without the extra time required for the ball to go down the lane, and for the pins to reset; and without paying for lineage duh.
Instead of being concerned with where your right leg ends up, maybe determine why it's kicking so far forward, ie: 9 o'clock vs 7-8 o'clock.
Brad has an awesome approach. Kyle has to be one of the best simple and clean approaches on the tour atm imo. Just a delight for me to watch. I will say I enjoy D_Tang and his approach too, maybe not quite as smooth as Kyle but still some great approaches to try and copy or learn from. I will say sorry to Packy, as a two hander, it just ... it does the job but all two handers look a mess to me... no disrespect meant. They'd all kick my ass on tour lane! Keep the content coming, I'm enjoying it all! I wish the UK had anything near what you guys have in the way of equipment and lanes!
The benefits of a college bowling scholarship...
Do more videos like this. Show people even for the pros it takes HOURS of repetition to make the smallest change.
Anyone ever heard of "Kicking the Box with the trail leg"? What tips can be used to keep the ball side arm straight from push away, throughout down swing and
back swing to apex of arc and straight until just before release point? Are there any tips drill that can help free up the arm so that you done muscle the ball throughout the swing motion?
5 7 10 are u kidding me wow think I might go back to what has worked in the past….. that was awesome
It's crazy one of the things Kyle is working on is a pushaway because I just went to Bowling IQ for a session and I normally take 4 steps (right hand bowler btw) & they advised me to take 5 steps and try to do my pushaway on the second step. I'm still trying to get used to it, moving like a statue pretty much, after my third step I kinda take a hop and I'm trying to eliminate the hop and either take my last 2 steps normally or add in a slide and I have been struggling with that
How are your thumbs pitched? All I’ve seen online is the thumb is “a little forward” but doesn’t specifically say it’s actually forward or still reversed but not much.
Very helpful, guys! Actually nice to see you somewhat struggle with the changes. It's easy to become frustrated when working on something different, and it definitely helps having a great bowler (take a bow, Brad) to give you instant feedback! I think that one of my issues is that I bowl with my brother, sister, and daughter, and they all throw straight with lower averages (120-150). It would no doubt help if I bowled with higher average/more serious bowlers.
10:00 is You Tube GOLD!
Try to push the ball straight out and lock our elbow then let the ball swing back. You are definitely dropping the ball to early into your back swing.
The struggle is real. I get too far forward in my first two steps as well and that causes me to pull down on the ball in the backswing (my wrist will bend forward and i end up turning the ball on the downswing).
So Kyle, when you figure it out, please let us poor saps know :).
What’s the problem with your timing and how is it translating to the ball on the lane? Are you seeing a different/wrong/unintended shape if you have the ball timed differently in your approach? Is it about longevity?
Brad's reaction is perfect. Lmao #lilly
It’s interesting to see at your level of the game how you still work and struggle with changes. Just imagine what is amateurs deal with.
It's so hard to break that muscle memory I've become used to for years.
Editor? Never change
Great video, guys. I'm guessing Kyle is feeling better after the back injury?
Bill O'Neill has the best example of this.
this was a good one!
Start with just a little more kneebend. The stiffer the body is, the more a little tilt pulls you down/forward.
I need to learn how to stop wrapping the ball behind my back I average 205 in league people been saying if it works don't try to fix it works my bicep so much which tells me I'm muscling it big time
Can you guys just post hour long videos of your training sessions? This 15 minute video was awesome.
Try a little more knee bend and a couple degrees more spine tilt. You let your body float on top of the hips. When you get it right your head never moves. IMO.
According to coaches, do they recommend the trail leg to be touching the approach on release? The reason I ask, is because my leg is at 6-8 o'clock but is also 2-3 feet in the air. 😂
When my brother and I took lessons together we were initially taught to have the toe touch the ground, but as we progressed I kept it but my brother liked raising his leg. No difference in balance between the 2 of us so i guess whatever works for you is fine
Maintain the posture but still remain loose in your stomach/lower back muscles(relaxed but aggressive).
It take much time to fixed part of the movement, as it also affected the whole process
Dennis, when he says “let’s take that again” you’re not supposed to keep the first take in😂😂
Hey remember, slow is smooth, smooth is fast
haha, the 5-7-10-10.5, epic
5-7-10!!! DAMN
What lane is this again?😅
I have the exact same problem Kyle. What helped was shortening my first step. Your first steps looks to long.
10:05 look who show up... it's.. Lily
Can you talk about why the ball double bounces
it happens when you release the ball too near to the ground. this has few reasons because you drop shoulder or have to much spine tilt at release i also have that issue and im trying to eliminate it
@@CJWDRUMS765 Thanks
@@CJWDRUMS765 So bending to far forward at the line would do this ?
@@240iBMW yes should be
Wow. Kyle is gorgeous 👌🏾
Why does this video feel like an episode of Parks and Rec?
I’ve fouled with my back leg it hurts you heart
Brad went up an octave or 2 lmao
"Promote synergy"
hahah.. his throw is so bad it broke the lane ;)
first
So.... when are you going to officially rename and launch the new Brad, Kyle and Norm channel?
@BKNnetwork