The Discovery of Lord De La Warr's Halberd in a Well

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • With the Covid-19 crisis hitting us we've decided to return to some retro footage of a Jamestown Rediscovery highlight for all of you out there clamoring for archaeology footage. This Halberd was recovered from what was likely James Fort's second well in the summer of 2006. The halberd almost certainly belonged to one of Thomas West's, the Lord De La Warr, personal guard as it bore his family's heraldic symbols of griffins. Go ahead and guess what it might have been doing in the bottom of a well. We will probably never know but we have some ideas of our own. Film footage by Cinebar Productions.

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  • @lakelili
    @lakelili 4 года назад +13

    Phil Harding! Lovely to see him there!

  • @mokee007
    @mokee007 4 года назад +21

    Lord De La Warr, Thomas West was my Great Grand Uncle X 11, I am descended from his brother John, The West family were very prominent in England and in Colonial America

    • @eye4west
      @eye4west 4 года назад +1

      Any knowledge of a relation to Anthony West of Accomack would be greatly appreciated.....my great grandfather X 10

    • @snoozeyoulose9416
      @snoozeyoulose9416 3 года назад +1

      @@eye4west I have direct descendants both from John West of New Kent, Virginia and Anthony West through the Marvell/Marston...etc. line. With Anthony West his parents are not known, though there are those who have done research on the internet surrounding Anthony's life linked through paper trail documentation and that of his offspring and their kinship group connections.
      Just google "Anthony West 1601-1652" at the same time take information with a grain of salt.

    • @eye4west
      @eye4west 3 года назад +1

      @@snoozeyoulose9416 Thank you Big Britches. I have a detailed family tree provided me 50 years ago by a now deceased aunt from the eastern shore. I just have not been able to tie Anthony to any other West that settled there, nor his parents. I have tried through internet searches, but have been unsuccessful. Your response gives me hope that I need to search again.

    • @snoozeyoulose9416
      @snoozeyoulose9416 3 года назад +1

      ​@@eye4west You're welcome. Having been doing genealogical research for the last two years, I have noticed the importance of studying the extended kinship groups from which an ancestor targeted for research belongs, especially that of who the particular ancestor's children marry. In the case of Anthony, one of his children, Lt. Col John West marries a daughter of Col. Edmund Scarborough of the Eastern Shore, the wealthiest man of the area with colony wide governmental positions, owner of many ships and so forth. A very colorful character.
      Anyhow, considering how Anthony arrived as an indentured servant, to then leave for England and return with his wife, his son not only marries into a prominent famliy but goes on to be very successful. From this one could assume that Anthony was potentially related to the other West's in Virginia. His children are given opportunity to intermarry with individuals of status and subsequently flourish. This is in no way proof of any kind to align Anthony with the other West's but highlights interesting food for thought in which to look for further clues. Marriage in that period was largely status oriented and controlled to a degree in line with kinship group patterns so it is a sort of mystery with Anthony how his children were able to thrive so well.
      Even with the prior paragraph, Anthony is recorded as having transported 32 individuals to Virginia in which to gain headrights for land. So, with this information it's plausible that Anthony's personal efforts alone gave him the ability to have his children obtain secure marriages.
      As a general caveat to any research on individuals from hundreds of years ago, there is little in the way of remaining paper trails and one has to be be careful scouring information that could be overly creative or worse. Most of what I am sharing in this comment comes from information from other individuals, not having the personal time nor energy to dig through the raw data, which could involve taking a trip to a local courthouse or heading to Richmond. So, even my comment and it's contents should be sprinkled with salt. Though with all of that, there are good resource websites like Ancestry that has a mountain of digitized scanned documents and books containing the work of earlier professional genealogists.
      It may never be truly known who Anthony West's parents are and as a result, one has to simply rely on scraps of evidence based conjecture in which to frame out a picture of who he was and that requires research into the time period as a whole, the community he resided in and developing understanding about the cultural standards of his day. This is what makes genealogy so interesting when one goes looking for more intimate details and attempts to understand them. You end up becoming a lover of history, especially that of local and off the beaten path history.
      Hopefully this comment wasn't too long winded and wish you best of luck in your search!

    • @billywest8343
      @billywest8343 3 года назад +3

      Just found out Thomas west is my great grandfather. Had to see what he was all about haha

  • @kevinron7559
    @kevinron7559 4 года назад +23

    I just saw Phil Harding there, yes he's he man

  • @joesmithe198
    @joesmithe198 4 года назад +24

    I freaking LOVE this! Just wish i could watch the whole process of discovering artifacts unedited. Just so cool to think nobody had touched any of those for almost 400 years! You guys are awesome! Keep up the great work!

    • @shanevalcich9208
      @shanevalcich9208 9 месяцев назад

      check out British the show Time Team they do this in a series for like 20 years.

  • @lancewhite1477
    @lancewhite1477 4 года назад +22

    Was this when Time Team were visiting? I spot a certain Phil Harding there at the end...

    • @TheHolyMongolEmpire
      @TheHolyMongolEmpire 4 года назад +2

      Yes, you can find the episode on youtube.

    • @davidandrews1977
      @davidandrews1977 4 года назад +4

      That episode was funny watching them encounter our Southern US heat. Love those guys. RIP Mick.

    • @thefogboundfan8314
      @thefogboundfan8314 3 года назад +5

      "Stone the crows" is pretty diagnostic for Phil Harding.

  • @lukasmakarios4998
    @lukasmakarios4998 3 года назад +11

    So happy that you found the halberd! Lord De la Warr was my ancestor, and I am always interested to learn more about his life. I hope that it will go on display for everyone to see.

  • @TheHolyMongolEmpire
    @TheHolyMongolEmpire Год назад +1

    Not many artifacts can be nailed down to the person and exact date; what an incredible find. One of the best in the history of archaeology in my opinion.

  • @pedenmk
    @pedenmk 4 года назад +4

    I LOVE IT WHEN YOU ALL BROADCAST YOUR DISCOVERIES.
    I♡♡♡ ARCHAEOLOGY.......

  • @clayguy1
    @clayguy1 2 года назад +2

    Amazing to watch without a professional narrator telling us what we all can see.. but hearing the excitement, in the voices of those searching.. Just think.. the last person to hold that halberd, was a person over 400 years ago, in a world we can only imagine... wow

  • @snottzoid
    @snottzoid 4 года назад +4

    I am a descendent of George Holloway who moved to Jamestown in the 1620s. This means so much to me!

    • @jrr0863
      @jrr0863 Год назад

      Have you paid reparations to the peoples oppressed by your ancestor?

  • @TheHolyMongolEmpire
    @TheHolyMongolEmpire 4 года назад +8

    The most epic privy/well dig of history. Also great to finally see all the footage of this most epic find. Ive been to the archearium about 3 times and the best thing is always the halberd.

  • @thomaswest1420
    @thomaswest1420 Месяц назад

    Late seeing this but good to know the west's are still around. Hi all lost relatives.

  • @Susan.I
    @Susan.I 2 года назад +1

    Wonderful items coming out of the well!

  • @donallen3332
    @donallen3332 4 года назад +1

    Doesn’t get any better than this.

  • @sharonsherman5241
    @sharonsherman5241 4 года назад +13

    There is Only one man that I’ve ever heard say “Stone the crows!” Phil Harding!

  • @nancyhooper7715
    @nancyhooper7715 4 года назад +2

    Spectacular find!!! Congratulations!

  • @amybarb25
    @amybarb25 4 года назад +3

    Wow!! What a great find!

  • @DirtDawg
    @DirtDawg 2 года назад +1

    Insane!!!!! You guys have the best job, I couldn’t sleep at night with excitement of going back to work the next day

  • @gwaine
    @gwaine 4 года назад +4

    It was cool getting a ding on my phone and looking down and seeing a picture of Dave. Once you guys get cleaned up let's go to Florimonte's. I could use a chicken parm sandwich.

  • @RobinaDunstan
    @RobinaDunstan 2 года назад +2

    Why was such a thing tossed into a well? It was a precious object even then.

  • @ScotchIrishHoundsman
    @ScotchIrishHoundsman Год назад +1

    I’ve been interested in these Jamestown discoveries for most of my life. After doing some genealogical research, I recently just found out that I am descended from Lord De La War.

    • @jrr0863
      @jrr0863 Год назад

      You are a descendant of a slave owner? Have you paid reparations???

    • @TheComputerCowboy
      @TheComputerCowboy 5 месяцев назад

      @@jrr0863everybody is from somewhere in their lineage. 🙄

    • @TheComputerCowboy
      @TheComputerCowboy 5 месяцев назад

      Scotch Irish Houndsman, welcome to the extend fam, cuz.

  • @budklw
    @budklw 3 года назад +2

    Michael West Lord De La War, and his brother Thomas West 2nd Baron De La War, are my ancestors. I only learned that this year after my daughter finished a genealogy search. That's what brought me here .

    • @patriciawest5594
      @patriciawest5594 4 месяца назад +1

      They are my ancestors also 😊

    • @budklw
      @budklw 4 месяца назад

      @@patriciawest5594 That's awesome! So we're related in some way.

  • @04straw
    @04straw 4 года назад +1

    O. M. G. That is unbelievable!

  • @denisecaringer4726
    @denisecaringer4726 4 года назад +1

    More, more! This was exciting.

  • @JanVafa
    @JanVafa 4 года назад +1

    Wow!

  • @EBDavis111
    @EBDavis111 Год назад +2

    My favorite part is that Phil Harding was there to witness.

  • @tomnickell1276
    @tomnickell1276 4 года назад +1

    You people are good!!!

  • @5THRTB
    @5THRTB 4 года назад +1

    Love it! Keep em coming.

  • @tinmanx2222
    @tinmanx2222 4 года назад +1

    Great work.

  • @andrew4829
    @andrew4829 Год назад

    William West, First Baron De La Warr was my 12x great grandfather. Seeing all the comments here from other descendants just blows my mind!

  • @ereynoldful3974
    @ereynoldful3974 2 года назад

    I hunt fossils in north Florida and south Georgia. And I love seeing how excited and gleeful they get over the artifacts. Makes me feel less like a dork. Of course I'm usually alone in a creek bed making these same noises 😂

  • @lindajanke6194
    @lindajanke6194 Год назад

    Archeology is glamorous work. LOL. What a magnificent find!

  • @deadhorse1391
    @deadhorse1391 4 года назад +1

    I don’t understand why these things would have been tossed down a well. You would think the iron would have been repurposed...doesn’t make sense

  • @TheMrdavidlangley
    @TheMrdavidlangley 4 года назад +6

    Yep. Don't ever let anyone else hold your wallet. No matter how well you know them. Just saying!

  • @diamondcola12
    @diamondcola12 4 года назад +1

    Amazing 😉

  • @twstf8905
    @twstf8905 4 года назад +1

    Awesome 👍

  • @baref1959
    @baref1959 4 года назад +2

    i am a descendant of this family.... very interesting!

  • @thundersquad757
    @thundersquad757 4 года назад +1

    Expecting more findings videos

  • @speakupriseup4549
    @speakupriseup4549 4 года назад +1

    Surely there must be some mention of it being lost.

  • @TheRastalockz
    @TheRastalockz 5 месяцев назад

    Kia ora i am John Del A Warr West, 9th great grand son on my Fathers, mother side from New Zealand 🇳🇿. Amazing Colonial history. I understand that My 9th great uncle Thomas grave has been exhumed of l8t too, in Jamestown along side other commrades that got caught up waring with the Native indian frst nations of the early 1600s. I dear hope they and there belongings found are repatriated back to there homelands of England. GOD WILLING!!!

    • @ellen4956
      @ellen4956 3 месяца назад +2

      Well, probably not. If he died and was buried in America, and whatever was dug up was likely put in a museum here. I'm sure you can find out more if you look online at the museums that show the Jamestown archaeological finds.

  • @loisfolk5492
    @loisfolk5492 29 дней назад

    So cool to watch this I wonder why they threw it in the well.

  • @bizzielizzie913
    @bizzielizzie913 4 года назад

    SO SO COOL👍👍

  • @scottgoodman8993
    @scottgoodman8993 4 года назад +1

    The halberdiers with Cortez were incredibly effective. The Indians in Mexico had no good defense. In Virginia, it seems not so much. I wonder why.

  • @rebeccamellinger2594
    @rebeccamellinger2594 3 года назад

    THATS AMAZING

  • @steves7896
    @steves7896 3 года назад

    What's that Tom Waits line again....?
    All kidding aside, this is so fascinating.

  • @robertodebeers2551
    @robertodebeers2551 3 года назад +1

    Why were armor and weapons thrown into a well?

  • @daveybass655
    @daveybass655 11 месяцев назад

    I'd love to know who made it.

  • @DumbBlondie616
    @DumbBlondie616 Год назад

    He was my 13 great grandfather.

  • @garyrebholz4139
    @garyrebholz4139 Год назад

    Hard to believe they got anything done, listening to the "helpers".

  • @speakupriseup4549
    @speakupriseup4549 2 года назад

    Why the heck are so many objects in the well?

  • @tetontom1
    @tetontom1 3 года назад

    Interesting..... who was that personal guard? Was this halberdier dumped in the well, shoes and all? Sir Thomas Leighton West 2nd Baron Lord De La Warr was my 11th ggf. Died in England. Descendant of his son John and then his son John of West Pt, Vir. Several of my family lines showing up at Jamestown.....

  • @ryanw9752
    @ryanw9752 2 года назад

    Is there a follow up video to this one?

  • @kaiokendo
    @kaiokendo 3 года назад

    1:47 can a contemporary object sink into the land so deeply???Is it possible???

  • @floridapioneers1957
    @floridapioneers1957 29 дней назад

    My 14th Great Grandfather...

  • @pedenmk
    @pedenmk 4 года назад

    IF I WAS THERE I WOULD HELP YOU;)

  • @panther6385
    @panther6385 4 года назад

    Hey Lord De La Warr is my Great Grandfather x12

  • @ServiceDogRosie
    @ServiceDogRosie Год назад

    Is that how they got the name for the state of Delaware lol I'm 99.999% sure

  • @lemonade5514
    @lemonade5514 3 года назад

    my eardrums have left the chat
    3:50

  • @annm.7176
    @annm.7176 2 года назад

    Why don't they just drain the water out

  • @chrisdavis7617
    @chrisdavis7617 3 года назад

    For goodness sake people, couldn't you let us see it for longer than 3 seconds. Then place BIG WHITE words over it so we can't see it again.

  • @karenvecchio2229
    @karenvecchio2229 3 года назад

    Get a pump

  • @herblopez8657
    @herblopez8657 3 года назад

    Loud mouths using the lords name in vain

    • @myreenmoorenicholson1516
      @myreenmoorenicholson1516 3 года назад

      My deceased husband, Roland Quarles Nicholson, Jr., was descended from the De La Ware family, and many of the other interesting individuals of early Jamestown.

  • @daveybass655
    @daveybass655 4 года назад +1

    Wow !

    • @daveybass655
      @daveybass655 11 месяцев назад

      My family was there ! An 400 plus year later, here I am, in Arizona !

  • @johnhabetz5872
    @johnhabetz5872 2 года назад +1

    WOW!