The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel Bravo! I've been waiting months for the eigentakt to be reviewed so thank you! I'm brand new to the audiophile world. I'm a musician on a mission to power 2.1 passive monitors with a purifi amp (perhaps without any op amps). So all I'm concerned about is truly accurate sound and superb control over the dynamics. I've read about VTV custom purifi amps, and the new exceptional purifi stereo amp: March Audio P452. Would these compare to eigentakt? And lastly, the only other contender that is tempting me, is the orchard audio Bosc monoblocks with its gallium nitride tech instead of mosfet. Any thoughts on any of these amps would be much appreciated.
To me, Hans puts more time and effort than any other audio reviewer that I subscribe too. I can't say that I 100% understand every bit of info that he provides. But I like that he does and it encourages me to learn more about what he's described. My budget is more towards the NAD C399 and, on paper, it looks near the equal to the specs of the M33. And I am more than happy to pay less because of the screen and construction quality when comparing the two systems. I am going to AudioFest Toronto 2022 this Friday to have a listen comparison. Thanks again Hans for a wonderful channel. Cheers.
@@specipful I had the C399 for several months. It was very very good. The look is so so but the sound is very good. For less budget it would be perfect yes. Now I am enjoying the NAD M32. it's better but also more expensive. Maybe the M33 in several years when it will get cheaper on the used market.
I have the M33 since 2 days - a great device. I come from the sensationell Devialet Pro220, but I miss nothing. Top functionality, great sound and Dirac solves my room problems with the first attempts. Only the Roon certification should come soon.
Interesting. I am just on the verge of finally upgrading my D200 to 220 Pro with the new pricing since the new Firmware Update with sweet room etc is finally something I would call worth it. Still it is not up to par with Dirac, though..
@@optimustait i also find the side issues, like a real remote control, a very good software, better connectivity (like Bluetooth in both directions) noteworthy.
@@optimustait Yes, at least for my ears. Above all I was able to resolve the bass problems with DIRAC. The bass is now much more precise and tighter. The midrange is crystal clear. It is already another sound experience. However, I will certainly adapt the DIRAC specifications little bit to my taste.
Excellent job covering the new NAD M33! With all due respect I noticed a mistake when you stated it uses the ES9022 DAC. The M33 uses ESS Technology DAC chips -- one Sabre ES9028 chip per channel, with differential output to the amplifier stage. Thanks for your fine technical work, Hans!
if anyone was to ask me, what is the best thing about the Internet, the answer would have to be great You tubers like you Hans, I find your work easy to follow and informative, In depth and with obvious technical knowledge, there are 2 phrases that you use I swear by, one is Trust Your Ears, and Two, Enjoy the Music. This M33 player sounds fantastic, a little out my price range but a love equipment with multiple connectivity keep up the brilliant work Thank you very much.
@David S: The NAD M33 with the M3s (Sapphires) are on my list. Questions: 1. Did you compare the M33 with any other amp (connected with the M3s)? 2. How does the M33 Dirac change the sound of the M3s?
Excellent video!!! Thanks for sharing your well of audio knowledge and experience. Great explanations about the M33. Everything I needed to know about it.
Brilliant and thorough review, thanks Hans! Made my mind up and went for the M33 instead of the Naim Uniti Nova which I've considered for some time.. It will be a nice Xmas present to myself.
Thanks Hans for a great and balanced review. I’m a real fan of “low box count” Hi-Fi and if I were starting again I may be tempted... I’m spoiled with more of Bruno Putzeys work - a set of Kii Threes, - driven by an Innuos Zenith SE (& Phoenix) using Roon. I can’t see me changing from that amazing sound, but for those new to the “low box count” journey the M33 has got to be top of the “must buy” list surely.... Superb review. thanks again Hans.
I have owned an M10 for some weeks now. One thing took me by surprise and is how good Dirac is. It's a game changer. And I think it's a bit under valued by the community. Another awesome feature (also on the M33) is the dual subwoofer output. With Dirac you can control each individual subwoofer separately and room correct them according to the location and subwoofer features. Again, a game changer feature.
Just use a usb->spdif reclocker (eg the W4S Remedy) in between your computer and the M33. This will solve your issue and also improve your signal before it enters the M33.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I concur, excellent review. I have seen quite a few, but it is very clear and well structured. I have ordered the amp myself, on its way... one question: I like having 4 speakers instead of two (in a pseudo-quad setup). Would the KEF LS50 speakers be good for this amp?
For those who slowly swap and combine multiple components and cables in quest for best digital sound for the money, this $5k all in one sounds like a hobby killer...
@@davidfriedman5154 the less boxes in your setup equal less degrading of the sound. Every box added to the chain with another wire connected dilutes the sound slightly. But yeah a nice audio rack with all the equipment can look nice. Part of the hobby enjoyment for a lot of people.
Thank you so very much for this review. You've given me a LOT to think about. I think it will go on my "major birthday" wish list. Now, I have a few years to find the right speakers to match...
Hi Hans, a quick note to say thank you.., I’ve started your series on cable and hygiene.., and managed to pay a SH Wireworld elektra 5 silver mains cable, for 1/3 new price.. what a difference.. I have it on my Yamaha as3000, which power Dynaudio contour 30.. what a difference the power cable has made.. cheers!!!!
Hi Hans.. Maybe you could do a video on older quality hifi units and how they compare to new equipment.. I'd like that.. 10 years ago I tossed out a Sansui 9090 receiver and a pair of Onkyo 240 15 inch speakers because they were old.. But thinking about the sound and comparing it to my current stereo (approx value ~ 1000-1500 euro).. the sound of the Sansui/Onkyo from the seventies was pretty good.
I will certainly not. Apart from finding old equipment, there is nothing worse than reporting on equipment that you don't enjoy. And the old gear I know doesn't enjoy me. Furthermore I like to review equipment my viewers are able to buy.
Very excellent review of the M 33. I currently have a Parasound Integrated amplifier that sounds much better than its price point. But would like to upgrade in the M 33 might be a good path. I enjoy your videos.
Hans!nice review. Does it sound much better than the M10 or just similar sound, more powerful? I own the M10 and I loved what it brought to the table, just wonder about the law of "diminishing return in hi-fi audio". You reckon this sound much better aside for power? thx. ciao .Max
Thank you, sir. Would you be so kind to explain how to plug NAD M33 to computer to use NAD as receiver from computer music? For example, I'd like to listen to your video using the scheme computer-NAD-ocustics
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you for your kind reply. I connected the USB cable between the amp and the computer. A message appeared on the display of the amp: «USB is disabled». Perhaps the drivers are not loaded on the computer or on the amp? The computer does not see the amp as a device. What to do?
Great review! I'm picking up mine up this week! Do you have any view on the mic included for the Dirac setup? Would it be worthwhile (see any gains) of using something like minidsp's UMIK-1? Or other purpose made mic?
I forgot to mention. It was tested on the Audio Physic's of my setup 1 and, as reported, I did hook up the digital front end to it. It brought at least 80% of the normal setup 1 (without the sub), depending on how you balance judgement on sound parameters. Bass for instance is clearly tighter while the mid range is slightly less open. But look at the price: M33 + Audio Physic Scorpio+ AudioQuest Robin Hood Zero loudspeaker cables for under € 13,000. Agains about € 20k for the normal setup 1.
Wow u got my full attention! I hope you'll have the chance to review the Purifi based NAD power amp c298 and its matching pre. The power figures are a bit different but that set cost 1000 euro less I think. Was wondering if it's in par sound size. Anyway probably looking at my next dream amp ! Have a great weekend
Hans wish you had said how it compares with system 1&2 .Great review it seems like if the Victorinox company ever made an amp instead of a pocket knife this would be it.Gellukig 2021!!!!!!!
You give the absolute best breakdowns of audio gear and are extremely easy to follow, as well as entertaining. Please keep up the great work. I am adding the NAD M33 to my shopping list, and hope that you will be able to do a review of the NAD M28 seven-channel amplifier. Thank you for all that you do. Be safe and Enjoy the Music.
Great review Hans. Quick one: did you ever get a chance to listen to Lyngdorf's RoomPerfect room correction system. Wondering how it compares vs. Dirac...
I have heard it in a very large conference room where it did sound good. But without reference it is hard to judge. Perhaps the room was with little problems. But I think that Dirac is the only system that uses mixed filters, not only using EQ but also time correction.
5:20 2 x 12V trigger outputs, you said. But if you see the rear panel carefully, they are 1 input and 1 output. I don't understand why the receiver like this needs 12V trigger input.
Hans, have you heard whether BluOS plans support for Amazon Unlimited HD? I have a BluOS device that streams it but using Airplay 1, and the sound is a bit soft and not highly detailed. It would be great if they were able to build a direct interface to Amazon, purely because of the breadth of music offered and the aggressive streaming prices here in the USA, for those of us who use Amazon Prime.
From a very reliable source: yes they are working on it. I couldn't get a date for it seems to be complex to fulfil the Amazon rules. So you don need to be patient.
Thank you Hans. A very insightful review on the NAD M33. I also watched your excellent NAD 658 video. Which option would you take: (A) NAD M33; or (B) NAD 658 + NAD C298? I am facing that choice now. Convenience, aesthetics and price difference is not an important issue in my case as my primary concern is sound quality. Hope you can provide some comments. Thank you very much.
Hi Hans and thank you for your reviews. I have a question for you, because I am struggling to decide between the C368 (hypex ucd) the c399 (hypex ncore) and the c298 (purifi, which seems to be the same than in the m33). You given a good review of the c368 a while ago but in your m33, you mention that you don’t like the hypex ucd and ncore class d amp. Is your opinion have changed about the c368 with time, for exemple, and wouldn’t recommend it, nor the c399, against a c298 or m33?
I'm so glad I came across your videos as you knowledge and insight is invaluable. Do you have any experience with Hegel? I am torn between the M33 and Hegel H390. Thank you for your help
Great review as always! I still can't make up my mind between an all in one solution vs. separate components. are components always a better option for sound quality? Which criteria are the most important to finally come to a decision?
Your trust in your own decision probably is the most complex criterium. Choosing between devices I have reviewed and judged to be in about the same setup is safe. I only review gear that is worth the money an try to explain what features it has.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Hi Hans, this seems a bit of a chicken and egg situation to me. How do you decide if something is worth the money, before you've done the review? 😉 Thank you for the review, I enjoyed it!
Most of my old stereo equipment (1972 vintage) has died. I haven’t used it for years. I am getting back into stereo and have been considering the NAD M33 vs. McIntosh 5300. The McIntosh costs more and is less versatile but I want to hear them both to compare them. Your review inclines me toward the NAD. I haven’t found a good review of the McIntosh.
I have the 5300 and have enjoyed it but just heard the M33 yesterday at a showroom here in LA. Wish I could compare them side by side. I think you would be happy with either one.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel There is a dealer who stocks the 5300 but can order the NAD 33. He doesn’t have an NAD to listen to. All I have to go by is the reviews on the net. Thanks for replying.
Beste Hans, Goede informatieve video dank je!! Ik heb de NAD M33 nu een week,er staan 4 Ohm Dali Oberon luidprekers op aangesloten,en ik mis 1: volume 2: die krachtige bass punch... ze klinken gewoon wat wollig,niet echt de kracht die ik verwachtte. Zou ik misschien beter zijn met een paar speakers van 8 ohm?Is er eventueel een paar speakers die je kan aanraden?( niet overdreven prijzig) Dank bij voorbaat!! Ps: Alles aangekocht bij Hifi Klubben in Breda,ben zélf van Schoten in Antwerpen
my father is trying to decide between this and a similarly priced Lyngdorf integrated amp, which comes down to dirac vs. roomperfect. Do you have a preference there? I would love to help my dad out but I can't find much resources about the differences between the two correction softwares :(
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I think a lot of manufacturers are missing an opportunity by not having H.T. Bypass. That's one of my major concerns, and it just cost NAD a $5,000 (US) sale.
Sounds very interesting, but I also still would like to be able to record on my A77 (even if that soounds a bit weird). Any possibilities? Would the pre amp out do the job? Regards Ralf
This device could mean that separates are no longer the way to go and that integrates systems are better? I would love to hear your opinion on this. Thank you very much for what you offer to the community.
I am super excited about the M33, and I am looking for it to replace several pieces of gear. What I don't want to replace are my speakers and sub. Can I still connect my REL sub via it's high impedance inputs (that connect to the speaker terminals)? Will connecting the sub in that way significantly minimize Dirac's ability to optimize the system? Or is it more optimal to use the the sub outputs on the M33? Do you or readers know if the M33 can satisfactorily drive Magneplanar speakers relative to solid class A/B options?
I use my REL's with Dirac and they are connected to the speaker terminals. Make sure you set up the sub the best you can and then start the Dirac measurements. I have not tried Maggies with the M33 but surely there is no technical reason not to combine them.
Thank you for another great review. One question I have that I am hoping you can answer is relating to the the quality of the source. Is this less important when using the M33's analogue inputs as it goes through an A/D/A conversion and so will sound the same no matter source plugged in? I am particularly interested in turntables here - would I hear the difference, say, between a £50 and £500 cartridge? I appreciate Dirac has another part to play in the chain but it is the pure signal element I am interested in. Thank you.
You can't separate one part of the M33 from the other. The question should be: will the difference between a £50 and £500 cartridge be just as audible as on an analog amp of the same class. I am convinced it will be and it might even be greater than on an analog amp since Dirac not only solves most room problems, by limiting room modes it also reduces acoustical feedback to the turntable resulting in a far better low end. Analog to digital conversion is simpler to do at high quality than digital to analog conversion and since both A/D and D/A are clocked by the same device, jitter will be very low too.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you for the very quick and comprehensive response - I really appreciate it. It puts my mind at rest that the digital part of the A/D/A chain should retain the character and essence of the source. Dirac is icing on the cake so to speak.
Don't be mistaken, if you take your time doing the Dirac measurements and filter setting - which isn't difficult but does take time - Dirac is far more that icing!!
I suspect the review M33 has now been returned. I received mine on Sunday and in the main have been quite happy with it. There are a couple of frustrations though. One is that whilst it is dead quiet through my speakers it does have a mechanical “hum” which is more like an odd continuous sound from the unit itself. The other is that the amplifier really needs turning up to 50% on the volume before the sound starts to fill the room. I would have thought with the power it has it would be more authoritative at lower levels. Did you notice either of these issues? Thanks.
do you recommend to drive a old Dynaudio speakers with 4 ohm? This is a difficult to drive bookshelf speakers. Can the M33 connect to a subwoofer? Thanks.
Can Dirac on the M33 control 2 subs? I'll just be using this for a stereo hifi system with 2 REL subs at high level connection and wondered about this?
I wasn't sure so I checked with NAD. The M33 has two separate SUB outputs with their own D/A conversion that are also analyzed and corrected independently of each other.
Just general info. Bridge mode switches the two amps so that one amp does the negative and the other the positive part of the signal. This makes it on single (mono) amp with doubles the output power. You need a second power amp for the other channel.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you for your quick reply, much appreciated. In relation to the second power amp for the other channel, what product would you recommend? Thanks again
How does this compare with the NAD C658 as a front end. If I added 2 XTZ power amps or something like that would it be as good? Can you recommend a very quiet power amp?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel why what? I was trying to come up with a cost effective way to get there too.. you liked the NAD C658 it has dirac and blue os . So pairing with a good quality quiet amp would be good or? What do you think?
Please help. When does one purchase an NAD C658 or M33 type unit vs. an NAD 758V3 or 777V3? I am starting with a great set of speakers and looking for power, I already own an T787 that is a few years old. BTW is there anything I can do to upgrade my older T 787 to get the latest enhancements?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I hope I haven't asked too many questions. Thank you for the help, I am going with the C658 and a Proceed BPA2 that I own. Your videos are very clear. Thank you
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel There was a shootout / comparison review performed by a Canadian HiFi channel (Audio Excellence): Hegel H390 vs NAD M33. As a result, the M33 kept the upper hand 😊🔥
Why should the speaker no longer matter? Dirac corrects artefacts of the room and sometimes it might correct for things as phase errors but that won't make all speakers sound the same. If only...
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel right, it's correcting the room, not necessarily the speakers in the room. I'll search your other videos for an explanation how Dirac works. Thanks Hans
Can I use two sets of speakers (KEF LS-50) with this amp in the same room, either in surround mode or all in front? Would there be any benefit in that? I also have two subwoofers I intend to use. Thank you
I have no hands on experience with these speakers but I don't see any reason why they shouldn't work with the M33. Having them all in front is a bit odd though.
The M33 works fine with the Scorpios. You don't need 300 to 500 watts. I have used them for years using a 2 x 15 watt tube amp. Currently an extremely good 2 x 100 watt amp in 8Ω
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel yes for listen ok and 20 wt but sometime like volume and Scorpio can keep volume if keep amp. Last amp which like was Vincent 237. Try find similar with same warm sound. And room big- 65 sq/m.
I forgot to mention. It was tested on the Audio Physic's of my setup 1 and, as reported, I did hook up the digital front end to it. It brought at least 80% of the normal setup 1 (without the sub), depending on how you balance judgement on sound parameters. Bass for instance is clearly tighter while the mid range is slightly less open. But look at the price: M33 + Audio Physic Scorpio+ AudioQuest Robin Hood Zero loudspeaker cables for under € 13,000. Agains about € 20k for the normal setup 1.
Great review, thanks Hans! I wonder how the NAD M33 compares with ARC correction system that Anthem is using? I am thinking of picking this one over the couple pre+power STR amplifier from Anthem, which costs pretty much double the price but it’s A/B class and separate components. Anyone has any experience comparing these?
Great video, Hans. Did you try listening to Tidal MQA files via Roon? I've never had luck getting MQA to work properly on NAD devices via Roon. Wondering if that is resolved in this device. It looks like a great all-in-one unit, albeit a bit redundant in my case since I already own a Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 that is functionally very similar.
I think a couple of MQA files of Tidal sound great like "Anouar Brahem - Dance with waves" for instance (but there are a limited amount of MQA-files!), but their other stuff is not that good. If hi-res is needed and top quality too, then listen to Qobuz Studio at least, I use it on my superb T+A R1000E, and that's really an other ball park. I've listened to a lot of files in the same quality side by side and could easily hear the difference. I had three subscriptions in one month next to each other (Deezer Hifi Euro 14,99, Tidal Euro 19,99 and Qobuz Studio < 20 euro in a years subscription; never mind about Spotify or the even lesser quality Apple, that's mp3 stuff) and within a couple of days and decided very quickly that only Qobuz Studio would not get unsubscribed by me. The details in the files is great, can hear every instrument clearly, files are not flat sounding, a lot of depth, etc., Tidal sounds enhanced, thick, but basses are round and not clear to be a bass, it seems there is added some reverb or 'hall' effect to (a lot of) the files, a lot of files that they don't have they will put in mp3's or even artists that covered the song etc. so it seems to me. If a basic quality FLAC file is needed then I would use Deezer Hifi (or in a car or on the go) and if the ears are a little more spoiled already, then only Qobuz Studio or higher will do the trick. Only directly streamed from the internet I think you can get the highest quality sound, even way better than cd (even played with the > 2,5K cd-players), more live like sound, great sound stage, etc. Resolution comparable to top end turntables (vinyl). Make sure to compare all the files on the same system, not through Roon (some frequencies can be 'helped' in Roon), same speakers, same cables, same amp, same netfilter, because otherwise the comparison will not tell you anything and in a lot of stores the system they want you to buy are on expensive netfilters while the comparing systems are not, or the file is on a high end server playing through Roon while the other is not, etc. So if Qobuz will work on a NAD, then I would consider switching and that is the least expensive tweak anybody with a good system can do.
For the moment ROON doesn’t work, because ROON allows since September only ROON certified products. So if you have a newer M33, ROON doesn’t accept the device. This is a ROON problem an should be solved soon with the ROON certification. TIDAL MQA with BluOS is working.
@@JA-ip2mz Qobuz does work through the Bluos App (and Roon). I did a similar experiment to you and found Qobuz - on balance - offered better sound quality.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelI think you missed it . . . I said sorry to my momma cause despite her telling me that famous expression 100 times, I just can not adhere to that rule this time.... will be purchasing this marvel asap. That is a remarkable value at that price. (based on features and your review)
That's the first time I heard Hans go 'Wow'! :)
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The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel Bravo! I've been waiting months for the eigentakt to be reviewed so thank you! I'm brand new to the audiophile world. I'm a musician on a mission to power 2.1 passive monitors with a purifi amp (perhaps without any op amps). So all I'm concerned about is truly accurate sound and superb control over the dynamics. I've read about VTV custom purifi amps, and the new exceptional purifi stereo amp: March Audio P452. Would these compare to eigentakt? And lastly, the only other contender that is tempting me, is the orchard audio Bosc monoblocks with its gallium nitride tech instead of mosfet. Any thoughts on any of these amps would be much appreciated.
Jonathan I don’t know the products you mention so I can’t say. Sorry
To me, Hans puts more time and effort than any other audio reviewer that I subscribe too. I can't say that I 100% understand every bit of info that he provides. But I like that he does and it encourages me to learn more about what he's described. My budget is more towards the NAD C399 and, on paper, it looks near the equal to the specs of the M33. And I am more than happy to pay less because of the screen and construction quality when comparing the two systems. I am going to AudioFest Toronto 2022 this Friday to have a listen comparison. Thanks again Hans for a wonderful channel. Cheers.
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Did you end up buying the C399? I'm looking at c399, the m22 v2 with a preamp, and this m33. Not sure what to go with for Sonus Faber Sonetto V.
@@specipful I had the C399 for several months. It was very very good. The look is so so but the sound is very good. For less budget it would be perfect yes. Now I am enjoying the NAD M32. it's better but also more expensive. Maybe the M33 in several years when it will get cheaper on the used market.
Great review, as always, your clarity and depth of background are invaluable!
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I have the M33 since 2 days - a great device. I come from the sensationell Devialet Pro220, but I miss nothing. Top functionality, great sound and Dirac solves my room problems with the first attempts. Only the Roon certification should come soon.
Thanks for sharing
Interesting. I am just on the verge of finally upgrading my D200 to 220 Pro with the new pricing since the new Firmware Update with sweet room etc is finally something I would call worth it. Still it is not up to par with Dirac, though..
@@optimustait i also find the side issues, like a real remote control, a very good software, better connectivity (like Bluetooth in both directions) noteworthy.
@@m.m.8497 thanks for the heads up! So even sound quality wise you would consider this on D220 level?
@@optimustait Yes, at least for my ears. Above all I was able to resolve the bass problems with DIRAC. The bass is now much more precise and tighter. The midrange is crystal clear. It is already another sound experience. However, I will certainly adapt the DIRAC specifications little bit to my taste.
Ordered one last week. Nice to see your commentaries and the learning that comes from your clear and concise approach.
You are indeed trustworthy
Awesome, thank you!
Excellent job covering the new NAD M33! With all due respect I noticed a mistake when you stated it uses the ES9022 DAC. The M33 uses ESS Technology DAC chips -- one Sabre ES9028 chip per channel, with differential output to the amplifier stage. Thanks for your fine technical work, Hans!
Did I say 9022. The autocue said 9028 (see the subtitles). Thanks for correcting.
An actual Wow is rare on this channel, tempted to buy this amp now!
What's stopping you?😋
if anyone was to ask me, what is the best thing about the Internet, the answer would have to be great You tubers like you Hans, I find your work easy to follow and informative, In depth and with obvious technical knowledge, there are 2 phrases that you use I swear by, one is Trust Your Ears, and Two, Enjoy the Music.
This M33 player sounds fantastic, a little out my price range but a love equipment with multiple connectivity
keep up the brilliant work Thank you very much.
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Thanks Hans. I purchased this a few weeks back. I have the M3 Sapphires teamed with it. Love it!
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@David S: The NAD M33 with the M3s (Sapphires) are on my list. Questions: 1. Did you compare the M33 with any other amp (connected with the M3s)? 2. How does the M33 Dirac change the sound of the M3s?
NAD Amplification, and Open Baffle Bass, you're my new Hero!! I plan to follow in your footsteps...👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Excellent video!!! Thanks for sharing your well of audio knowledge and experience. Great explanations about the M33. Everything I needed to know about it.
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant and thorough review, thanks Hans!
Made my mind up and went for the M33 instead of the Naim Uniti Nova which I've considered for some time.. It will be a nice Xmas present to myself.
Congrats!
Good choice
@@henriksrensen3220 happy with my selection as well.. the Hegel H300 I had previously was no slouch, but the convenience of the M33 are miles ahead
Thanks Hans for a great and balanced review.
I’m a real fan of “low box count” Hi-Fi and if I were starting again I may be tempted... I’m spoiled with more of Bruno Putzeys work - a set of Kii Threes, - driven by an Innuos Zenith SE (& Phoenix) using Roon. I can’t see me changing from that amazing sound, but for those new to the “low box count” journey the M33 has got to be top of the “must buy” list surely....
Superb review. thanks again Hans.
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Amazing! I like it when you get really moved a product Hans.
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I really enjoy your videos. Great job Hans!
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I have owned an M10 for some weeks now. One thing took me by surprise and is how good Dirac is. It's a game changer. And I think it's a bit under valued by the community. Another awesome feature (also on the M33) is the dual subwoofer output. With Dirac you can control each individual subwoofer separately and room correct them according to the location and subwoofer features. Again, a game changer feature.
Thanks for sharing
Hans, we not only like your work! Have a fine day! Karoly
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Very thorough. Thank you for taking the time and effortless script to detail this product.
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First time I listened to your review. I subscribed and will support you.
fantastic review. Concerned about the lack of PC USB connection as my AMP sits on my computer desk, and is a part of my sound system. Bedankt Hans.
You may be able to stream that audio.
Just use a usb->spdif reclocker (eg the W4S Remedy) in between your computer and the M33. This will solve your issue and also improve your signal before it enters the M33.
Glad it was helpful!
The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel Yes, and also why I am glad to be a Patreon. Keep up the great work.
Heard a rumour that there will be an MDC card for USB 2.0 audio with DSD playback.
Great review, Hans! Subscribed.
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Loved this review. It’s so thorough!
Glad you liked it!
Sounds like it gets the tick of approval. I think it’s almost $8,000 in my country Australia. That’s quite a few dollarydoos.
Learning new words every day. Dollaroos, love it.
Oh dear. I thought a Dutchman would help me save money. Now I am going to have to save up NZ$8500 for a NAD M33. :)
I would call that ethnic profiling😁
Excellent review Hans... thank you!
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@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I concur, excellent review. I have seen quite a few, but it is very clear and well structured. I have ordered the amp myself, on its way... one question: I like having 4 speakers instead of two (in a pseudo-quad setup). Would the KEF LS50 speakers be good for this amp?
For those who slowly swap and combine multiple components and cables in quest for best digital sound for the money, this $5k all in one sounds like a hobby killer...
You got the point I made, 👍🏻
I still like maintaining my collection of boxes and wires. Just won't tell my wife this is available.
@@davidfriedman5154 the less boxes in your setup equal less degrading of the sound. Every box added to the chain with another wire connected dilutes the sound slightly.
But yeah a nice audio rack with all the equipment can look nice. Part of the hobby enjoyment for a lot of people.
The whole unit costs less than some pay for just one set of cables.
Time gained to listen to music 😊
Thank you so very much for this review. You've given me a LOT to think about. I think it will go on my "major birthday" wish list. Now, I have a few years to find the right speakers to match...
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Another excellent review. Thank you Hans. I have the M10 and love it. I would go for the M33 if I had a bigger room and more $$
Thanks for sharing
You are the best audio gear presenter on RUclips. We'll done.
When reading comments I often wonder if they actually watch your video
I have the same😀
Hi Hans, a quick note to say thank you.., I’ve started your series on cable and hygiene.., and managed to pay a SH Wireworld elektra 5 silver mains cable, for 1/3 new price.. what a difference..
I have it on my Yamaha as3000, which power Dynaudio contour 30.. what a difference the power cable has made.. cheers!!!!
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We hear more detail, more definition, will continue through you hygiene series etc
Hi Hans.. Maybe you could do a video on older quality hifi units and how they compare to new equipment.. I'd like that.. 10 years ago I tossed out a Sansui 9090 receiver and a pair of Onkyo 240 15 inch speakers because they were old.. But thinking about the sound and comparing it to my current stereo (approx value ~ 1000-1500 euro).. the sound of the Sansui/Onkyo from the seventies was pretty good.
I will certainly not. Apart from finding old equipment, there is nothing worse than reporting on equipment that you don't enjoy. And the old gear I know doesn't enjoy me. Furthermore I like to review equipment my viewers are able to buy.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Good answer.
Very excellent review of the M 33. I currently have a Parasound Integrated amplifier that sounds much better than its price point. But would like to upgrade in the M 33 might be a good path. I enjoy your videos.
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what type parasound?jc?
The DAC is actually the ES9028Pro, with one per channel.
Tnx
Actually I've only seen it designated as one ES9028 per channel, but not the PRO version.
Excellent review!
Hans!nice review. Does it sound much better than the M10 or just similar sound, more powerful? I own the M10 and I loved what it brought to the table, just wonder about the law of "diminishing return in hi-fi audio". You reckon this sound much better aside for power? thx. ciao .Max
Have you heard me say wow in the M10 review? The M33 plays clearly in a different league. Nothing wrong with the M10 but it’s not an M33.
The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel 😁🙏
Dream Theater - Awake, great album Hans, now that was peak Portnoy & Petrucci.
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Purifi Eigentakt is brilliant class D design
We agree!
Love My M12 Pre with Bluos and M22V2 Power, interested to hear whether those will be updated like the M33 with Purifi modules and Dirac :)
My guess would be that we will see more NAD product with Dirac, MQA and Eigentakt.
Thank you, sir. Would you be so kind to explain how to plug NAD M33 to computer to use NAD as receiver from computer music? For example, I'd like to listen to your video using the scheme computer-NAD-ocustics
It depends on your computer. Connect the USB cable between the amp and the computer and the set the operating system to use the amp as soundcard.
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Thank you for your kind reply. I connected the USB cable between the amp and the computer. A message appeared on the display of the amp: «USB is disabled». Perhaps the drivers are not loaded on the computer or on the amp? The computer does not see the amp as a device. What to do?
Great review! I'm picking up mine up this week! Do you have any view on the mic included for the Dirac setup? Would it be worthwhile (see any gains) of using something like minidsp's UMIK-1? Or other purpose made mic?
No, the supplied mike is fine.
So, Klavs Luters, are you happy with it? I'm thinking about buying one.
Hi Hans, I understand you are wowed by the Nad M33. I still have to ask: How does it behave in your Setup 1? (I did not get that in the video ;)),
I forgot to mention. It was tested on the Audio Physic's of my setup 1 and, as reported, I did hook up the digital front end to it. It brought at least 80% of the normal setup 1 (without the sub), depending on how you balance judgement on sound parameters. Bass for instance is clearly tighter while the mid range is slightly less open. But look at the price: M33 + Audio Physic Scorpio+ AudioQuest Robin Hood Zero loudspeaker cables for under € 13,000. Agains about € 20k for the normal setup 1.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you for the info!
Thanks Hans. is the difference in sound quality between M33 and M10 significant and worth double the price .
Absolutely
Thanks Hans
Feel like I'm late to the party. Excellent review. Could tell you are impressed. Waiting for mine to arrive.
Wow u got my full attention! I hope you'll have the chance to review the Purifi based NAD power amp c298 and its matching pre. The power figures are a bit different but that set cost 1000 euro less I think. Was wondering if it's in par sound size. Anyway probably looking at my next dream amp ! Have a great weekend
I'll check it out!
Hans wish you had said how it compares with system 1&2 .Great review it seems like if the Victorinox company ever made an amp instead of a pocket knife this would be it.Gellukig 2021!!!!!!!
It’s mid range setup 1
So it’s just a notch below the your absolute highest recommendation, Hans?
You give the absolute best breakdowns of audio gear and are extremely easy to follow, as well as entertaining. Please keep up the great work. I am adding the NAD M33 to my shopping list, and hope that you will be able to do a review of the NAD M28 seven-channel amplifier. Thank you for all that you do. Be safe and Enjoy the Music.
Thanks, will do!
Great review Hans. Quick one: did you ever get a chance to listen to Lyngdorf's RoomPerfect room correction system. Wondering how it compares vs. Dirac...
I have heard it in a very large conference room where it did sound good. But without reference it is hard to judge. Perhaps the room was with little problems. But I think that Dirac is the only system that uses mixed filters, not only using EQ but also time correction.
5:20 2 x 12V trigger outputs, you said. But if you see the rear panel carefully, they are 1 input and 1 output. I don't understand why the receiver like this needs 12V trigger input.
Great job on the video and clarity on highs of the M 33, thanks for doing this!!
My pleasure!
Hans, have you heard whether BluOS plans support for Amazon Unlimited HD? I have a BluOS device that streams it but using Airplay 1, and the sound is a bit soft and not highly detailed. It would be great if they were able to build a direct interface to Amazon, purely because of the breadth of music offered and the aggressive streaming prices here in the USA, for those of us who use Amazon Prime.
From a very reliable source: yes they are working on it. I couldn't get a date for it seems to be complex to fulfil the Amazon rules. So you don need to be patient.
Thank you Hans.
A very insightful review on the NAD M33. I also watched your excellent NAD 658 video.
Which option would you take: (A) NAD M33; or (B) NAD 658 + NAD C298?
I am facing that choice now. Convenience, aesthetics and price difference is not an important issue in my case as my primary concern is sound quality.
Hope you can provide some comments. Thank you very much.
M33 for sure
Thank you very much Hans. Very much appreciate your expertise and knowledge.
If only I could give it 2 thumbs-up I would!
Thanks Hans!
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Great review! Thank you
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Hi Hans and thank you for your reviews. I have a question for you, because I am struggling to decide between the C368 (hypex ucd) the c399 (hypex ncore) and the c298 (purifi, which seems to be the same than in the m33). You given a good review of the c368 a while ago but in your m33, you mention that you don’t like the hypex ucd and ncore class d amp. Is your opinion have changed about the c368 with time, for exemple, and wouldn’t recommend it, nor the c399, against a c298 or m33?
I still love the M33
I'm so glad I came across your videos as you knowledge and insight is invaluable. Do you have any experience with Hegel? I am torn between the M33 and Hegel H390. Thank you for your help
I have no experience with Hegel. Sorry.
Great review as always! I still can't make up my mind between an all in one solution vs. separate components. are components always a better option for sound quality? Which criteria are the most important to finally come to a decision?
Your trust in your own decision probably is the most complex criterium. Choosing between devices I have reviewed and judged to be in about the same setup is safe. I only review gear that is worth the money an try to explain what features it has.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Hi Hans, this seems a bit of a chicken and egg situation to me. How do you decide if something is worth the money, before you've done the review? 😉
Thank you for the review, I enjoyed it!
Now I have to binge watch the rest of your videos. You sir are a top tier reviewer.
Wow, thanks!
Most of my old stereo equipment (1972 vintage) has died. I haven’t used it for years. I am getting back into stereo and have been considering the NAD M33 vs. McIntosh 5300. The McIntosh costs more and is less versatile but I want to hear them both to compare them. Your review inclines me toward the NAD. I haven’t found a good review of the McIntosh.
Go fond a dealer that does both brands and listen.
I have the 5300 and have enjoyed it but just heard the M33 yesterday at a showroom here in LA. Wish I could compare them side by side. I think you would be happy with either one.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel There is a dealer who stocks the 5300 but can order the NAD 33. He doesn’t have an NAD to listen to. All I have to go by is the reviews on the net. Thanks for replying.
@@rblazer69 Thanks for your input.
Hello Hans, I need your help choosing my home theatre. Naim Uniti Atom or Nad M33 which the best.
Just view my reviews and choose on shat you think fits you best. They are both great, you won't be disappointed in either one
Very informative review!
Glad you think so!
Tossing up between the M33 and ECI 6DX M11, loved this review.
Thanks
if it had bass and treble controls, I'd be on this.
It has Dirac
It has normal tone control and Dirac
Beste Hans,
Goede informatieve video dank je!!
Ik heb de NAD M33 nu een week,er staan 4 Ohm Dali Oberon luidprekers op aangesloten,en ik mis 1: volume 2: die krachtige bass punch... ze klinken gewoon wat wollig,niet echt de kracht die ik verwachtte. Zou ik misschien beter zijn met een paar speakers van 8 ohm?Is er eventueel een paar speakers die je kan aanraden?( niet overdreven prijzig)
Dank bij voorbaat!!
Ps: Alles aangekocht bij Hifi Klubben in Breda,ben zélf van Schoten in Antwerpen
De impedantie is niet van groot belang hier. Maar ik zou teruggaan naar de dealer en jouw probleem voorleggen.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Dankjewel voor je reactie!!
Groetjes.
my father is trying to decide between this and a similarly priced Lyngdorf integrated amp, which comes down to dirac vs. roomperfect.
Do you have a preference there? I would love to help my dad out but I can't find much resources about the differences between the two correction softwares :(
Please watch Q&A: Which device is better?: ruclips.net/video/BzLmC4n2DX4/видео.html
Hi Hans. Has the M33 a HT bypass? I've read the manual but I didn't find it.
Thanks
It doesn’t
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel is there another solution to connect my Denon AVR 4500H to NAD M33?
thanks
Not a workable solution I’m afraid.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I think a lot of manufacturers are missing an opportunity by not having H.T. Bypass. That's one of my major concerns, and it just cost NAD a $5,000 (US) sale.
Sounds very interesting, but I also still would like to be able to record on my A77 (even if that soounds a bit weird). Any possibilities? Would the pre amp out do the job?
Regards Ralf
Well, that si not really optimal. You could use the line-outs but they will be influenced by the position of the volume control.
This device could mean that separates are no longer the way to go and that integrates systems are better? I would love to hear your opinion on this. Thank you very much for what you offer to the community.
Generalizations like this are not my cup of tea.
I am super excited about the M33, and I am looking for it to replace several pieces of gear. What I don't want to replace are my speakers and sub. Can I still connect my REL sub via it's high impedance inputs (that connect to the speaker terminals)? Will connecting the sub in that way significantly minimize Dirac's ability to optimize the system? Or is it more optimal to use the the sub outputs on the M33? Do you or readers know if the M33 can satisfactorily drive Magneplanar speakers relative to solid class A/B options?
I use my REL's with Dirac and they are connected to the speaker terminals. Make sure you set up the sub the best you can and then start the Dirac measurements. I have not tried Maggies with the M33 but surely there is no technical reason not to combine them.
Thank you for another great review. One question I have that I am hoping you can answer is relating to the the quality of the source. Is this less important when using the M33's analogue inputs as it goes through an A/D/A conversion and so will sound the same no matter source plugged in? I am particularly interested in turntables here - would I hear the difference, say, between a £50 and £500 cartridge? I appreciate Dirac has another part to play in the chain but it is the pure signal element I am interested in. Thank you.
You can't separate one part of the M33 from the other. The question should be: will the difference between a £50 and £500 cartridge be just as audible as on an analog amp of the same class. I am convinced it will be and it might even be greater than on an analog amp since Dirac not only solves most room problems, by limiting room modes it also reduces acoustical feedback to the turntable resulting in a far better low end. Analog to digital conversion is simpler to do at high quality than digital to analog conversion and since both A/D and D/A are clocked by the same device, jitter will be very low too.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you for the very quick and comprehensive response - I really appreciate it. It puts my mind at rest that the digital part of the A/D/A chain should retain the character and essence of the source. Dirac is icing on the cake so to speak.
Don't be mistaken, if you take your time doing the Dirac measurements and filter setting - which isn't difficult but does take time - Dirac is far more that icing!!
I suspect the review M33 has now been returned. I received mine on Sunday and in the main have been quite happy with it. There are a couple of frustrations though. One is that whilst it is dead quiet through my speakers it does have a mechanical “hum” which is more like an odd continuous sound from the unit itself. The other is that the amplifier really needs turning up to 50% on the volume before the sound starts to fill the room. I would have thought with the power it has it would be more authoritative at lower levels. Did you notice either of these issues? Thanks.
do you recommend to drive a old Dynaudio speakers with 4 ohm? This is a difficult to drive bookshelf speakers. Can the M33 connect to a subwoofer? Thanks.
Yes and yes
Can Dirac on the M33 control 2 subs? I'll just be using this for a stereo hifi system with 2 REL subs at high level connection and wondered about this?
I wasn't sure so I checked with NAD. The M33 has two separate SUB outputs with their own D/A conversion that are also analyzed and corrected independently of each other.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks so much Hans, your detailed overview and quick reply to my question is very appreciated.
Hi another excellent review. Do you have any further information about the "Bridge mode" and mono amplifier from NAD?
Just general info. Bridge mode switches the two amps so that one amp does the negative and the other the positive part of the signal. This makes it on single (mono) amp with doubles the output power. You need a second power amp for the other channel.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you for your quick reply, much appreciated. In relation to the second power amp for the other channel, what product would you recommend? Thanks again
The power amp needs to have the exact same characteristics. I suppose NAD wil have a matching product
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I will have a look at NAD website. Thanks
You don't mention if this is Roon Ready. Which I believe it is. Is it? And practically speaking, How would that work?
It has Roon integrated but it's not yet certified.
So they threw so many things inside, but cannot support direct DSD and it needs to be converted to PCM, crazy.
Great overview, though.
DSD is a nice market. It’s fully understandable they left it out.
what a great "Wow"!
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How does this compare with the NAD C658 as a front end. If I added 2 XTZ power amps or something like that would it be as good? Can you recommend a very quiet power amp?
Why???
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel why what? I was trying to come up with a cost effective way to get there too.. you liked the NAD C658 it has dirac and blue os . So pairing with a good quality quiet amp would be good or? What do you think?
I was considering buying one... and then the price came up. 😳 ... Maybe later. It does check all of the boxes I'd have for it.
Go for it
Hans, klinkt hij ook een stuk beter dan een M32? Dirac is een super toevoeging, maar ben op zich tevreden met mijn M32.
Yes
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel dan heb ik er weer een spaarproject bij. Thanks voor je geweldige posts.
Phono is processed as well by dirac
Correct
I think you will be able to bypass it as well. Not that you want to go back to wobbly bass of course.
No, you can’t.
Please help. When does one purchase an NAD C658 or M33 type unit vs. an NAD 758V3 or 777V3? I am starting with a great set of speakers and looking for power, I already own an T787 that is a few years old. BTW is there anything I can do to upgrade my older T 787 to get the latest enhancements?
No, there is no difference, only the price😉. I sometimes wonder why I do these reviews....
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I hope I haven't asked too many questions. Thank you for the help, I am going with the C658 and a Proceed BPA2 that I own. Your videos are very clear. Thank you
Can you have you reviewed the NAD M12
I'll see if that can be arranged. Won't be n short notice though.
Does it play better then combo, Hegel 360 witch bluesound node2i??
I can't say, I have no hands on with the Hegel
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel hopefully you can do this review on day :-)
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There was a shootout / comparison review performed by a Canadian HiFi channel (Audio Excellence): Hegel H390 vs NAD M33. As a result, the M33 kept the upper hand 😊🔥
Ok. With all this room correction circuitry does it now mean that the speakers no longer matter as much? Will they now all sound very similar?
Why should the speaker no longer matter? Dirac corrects artefacts of the room and sometimes it might correct for things as phase errors but that won't make all speakers sound the same. If only...
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel right, it's correcting the room, not necessarily the speakers in the room. I'll search your other videos for an explanation how Dirac works. Thanks Hans
Can I use two sets of speakers (KEF LS-50) with this amp in the same room, either in surround mode or all in front? Would there be any benefit in that? I also have two subwoofers I intend to use. Thank you
I have no hands on experience with these speakers but I don't see any reason why they shouldn't work with the M33. Having them all in front is a bit odd though.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you!
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel May I dare another question: will Dirac work in the surround setup?
How sinergy Nad M 33 with Audio Physic Scorpio? What's amp (with 300-500 watt for 4 oms)you suggest for this speakers?
The M33 works fine with the Scorpios. You don't need 300 to 500 watts. I have used them for years using a 2 x 15 watt tube amp. Currently an extremely good 2 x 100 watt amp in 8Ω
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel yes for listen ok and 20 wt but sometime like volume and Scorpio can keep volume if keep amp. Last amp which like was Vincent 237. Try find similar with same warm sound. And room big- 65 sq/m.
You didn't mention where it fits in your rigs right? (I mean set 1, 2 or 3).
I forgot to mention. It was tested on the Audio Physic's of my setup 1 and, as reported, I did hook up the digital front end to it. It brought at least 80% of the normal setup 1 (without the sub), depending on how you balance judgement on sound parameters. Bass for instance is clearly tighter while the mid range is slightly less open. But look at the price: M33 + Audio Physic Scorpio+ AudioQuest Robin Hood Zero loudspeaker cables for under € 13,000. Agains about € 20k for the normal setup 1.
Great review, thanks Hans! I wonder how the NAD M33 compares with ARC correction system that Anthem is using? I am thinking of picking this one over the couple pre+power STR amplifier from Anthem, which costs pretty much double the price but it’s A/B class and separate components. Anyone has any experience comparing these?
I have not reviewed the Anthem so I can't say.
Did you purchase the Anthem STR units? I'm torn between yhis NAD, Anthem STR, Cambridge Edge and McIntosh.
Sorry, but M33 uses ES9028PRO DAC, not ES9022 as said at @8:47. M33 and NAD c658 use same DAC. Anyway, compliment for your channel. Regards
Any update on Roon certification?
Please refer to the Roon and NAD support pages. I don't have an M33 at hand for frequent testing.
I swiched from m10 to m33 this m33 is insane t
I know
I have just bought one. Is it normal for a whining sound from speakers for 5-10 secs on startup?
I have not experienced that. I would have it checked.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel many thanks, will do.
There is still no Roon Certification. What a pitty.
I don't like it, I love it. that's the line.
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Thank you for your great review.
I’ll watch this review daily, until my M33 delivered to me(about Christmas 2020).
- from South Korea -
I noticed you’ve never done a Hagel just had an NAD you’ve never done a Hegel … do you dislike Hegel ?
Hagel doesn't lend me equipment.
Great video, Hans. Did you try listening to Tidal MQA files via Roon? I've never had luck getting MQA to work properly on NAD devices via Roon. Wondering if that is resolved in this device. It looks like a great all-in-one unit, albeit a bit redundant in my case since I already own a Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 that is functionally very similar.
Tidal MQA works like a treat.
I think a couple of MQA files of Tidal sound great like "Anouar Brahem - Dance with waves" for instance (but there are a limited amount of MQA-files!), but their other stuff is not that good. If hi-res is needed and top quality too, then listen to Qobuz Studio at least, I use it on my superb T+A R1000E, and that's really an other ball park. I've listened to a lot of files in the same quality side by side and could easily hear the difference. I had three subscriptions in one month next to each other (Deezer Hifi Euro 14,99, Tidal Euro 19,99 and Qobuz Studio < 20 euro in a years subscription; never mind about Spotify or the even lesser quality Apple, that's mp3 stuff) and within a couple of days and decided very quickly that only Qobuz Studio would not get unsubscribed by me. The details in the files is great, can hear every instrument clearly, files are not flat sounding, a lot of depth, etc., Tidal sounds enhanced, thick, but basses are round and not clear to be a bass, it seems there is added some reverb or 'hall' effect to (a lot of) the files, a lot of files that they don't have they will put in mp3's or even artists that covered the song etc. so it seems to me. If a basic quality FLAC file is needed then I would use Deezer Hifi (or in a car or on the go) and if the ears are a little more spoiled already, then only Qobuz Studio or higher will do the trick. Only directly streamed from the internet I think you can get the highest quality sound, even way better than cd (even played with the > 2,5K cd-players), more live like sound, great sound stage, etc. Resolution comparable to top end turntables (vinyl). Make sure to compare all the files on the same system, not through Roon (some frequencies can be 'helped' in Roon), same speakers, same cables, same amp, same netfilter, because otherwise the comparison will not tell you anything and in a lot of stores the system they want you to buy are on expensive netfilters while the comparing systems are not, or the file is on a high end server playing through Roon while the other is not, etc. So if Qobuz will work on a NAD, then I would consider switching and that is the least expensive tweak anybody with a good system can do.
For the moment ROON doesn’t work, because ROON allows since September only ROON certified products. So if you have a newer M33, ROON doesn’t accept the device. This is a ROON problem an should be solved soon with the ROON certification. TIDAL MQA with BluOS is working.
@@JA-ip2mz Qobuz does work through the Bluos App (and Roon). I did a similar experiment to you and found Qobuz - on balance - offered better sound quality.
Danke!
Danke dir auch
"WOW" IS RIGHT! SOLD!!! sorry Momma (Momma always said if it's too good to be true... bla bla bla .....
I didn't it's too good to be true, I merely said WOW😁
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelI think you missed it . . . I said sorry to my momma cause despite her telling me that famous expression 100 times, I just can not adhere to that rule this time.... will be purchasing this marvel asap. That is a remarkable value at that price. (based on features and your review)
perfect review Hans, thank you. I'll start saving my pennies.
I would go for £££😁😁
so you cant connect it directly to a PC via USB ? :(
If you want, you can. But it's even better to use the Bluesound streaming option that plays music from your computer over the network in the M33.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel ah i see, i understood....thanks Hans
I sooooo want one of these! Mmmmmh......🤤
Wow!
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I have active speakers.......otherwise, this would be my choice. Thanks Hans.
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