@@iancurtis1152 There's always criminal negligence, but then, like Biden getting a pass on his documents case because he's too demented to be tried, their stupidity would probably get them off on that too. You'd have to prove they were following the agenda of someone else at the expense of Australia's national interests....hmmm
And here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
That's the job of the Opposition. So far they've done nothing other than disparage the CSIRO and the GenCost report and float a thought bubble nuclear policy. No ideas and the ability to express them. 💭
or even questioned on the math, feasibility and physics of it , i see that putting the life of solar and wind equal to nuclear is an agregious lie to the public and should be called out in parliment, this and other ommissions in the gencost report is scandalous
Unfortunately… there are millions of morons out there who believe labor’s lies!! Even after decades of broken promises and inability to run Australia… these Labor voting idiots just don’t get it. …Fed Union trash and woke idealism… You’de think they, the labor supporters could see beyond the broken promises and abhorrent spending!? (Considering most are hard working individuals)
@peterjackson5225 - What? The hope for clean skies? Hope for clean energy? Hope to prevent climate change getting so bad that Australia's long-term weather patterns change, and the idea of skiing in the Australian Alps is just a photographic memory? Or maybe you mean hope for decent pay rises? Or hope for a fair system for those less well off? Maybe he's destroyed your hope of a divisive incompetent Liberal government continuing to trash the social fabric - in which case I'd just say "suck it up, Princess".
Get the spelling of the Labor Party right before you say it commits treason. It is Labor not Labour. If you attack something, it is best to know how to spell or people will think you are stupid.
they never have, and they never will. That's why the conservatives kept cutting their budgets, because they refused to toe the line. You should be a little more proud of the CSIRO and what they've discovered over the past 50-100 years, and how they've followed the science. This is one of the saddest parts of the Murdoch war on truth and democracy - anyone and anything that says something they don't like, regardless of value and integrity, has their dedication and honesty torn down, regardless of the cost to the social fabric. We end up in a much impoverished world with no institute or outlet trusted by anyone. It's a real shame - you lot who complain about things not being like they used to be, maybe consider your part in this, where anything of value is rubbished and dismissed.
@@thosdot6497 Murdoch's war on truth and democracy? Please do tell where we can get the truth these days? The ABC? CNN? The world is a very different place these days. The days of rainbows and lollipops are long gone. It's corrupt from the top down and if you can't see that, I pity you.
@@thosdot6497The CSIRO are a pack of bludgers that manufacture research to fit the narrative of the left or whoever throws cash their way. Remember the health and wellbeing diet sponsored by the meat industry that 'through extensive research' recommended funnily enough that we consume more meat lol!!! Open your eyes!!
@@davids-c1f - given you have to keep digging up coal, or getting gas and burning it, they are never green. And yes, manufactured with current technologies and sources of power, it's well known and accepted that there's a carbon cost to current renewables. Are you familiar with the term 'bootstrapping'? Just because it's like that now does not mean it will always be like that - as more renewable energy feeds the grid, more of the inputs for the renewable infrastructure will be zero-carbon.
@@thosdot6497Can't wait to see you produce steel without coke, and cement without limestone. Good luck with that...pfft. There's much more to it than the energy inputs...nice try though. Smh.
It makes perfect sense to spend billions of dollars on a nuclear power reactors and then go and send all of our coal and gas over seas .. brilliant idea ..
Get rid of the subsidies on renewables, and you will see how many of these zealots start running the other way towards nuclear. Absolute clowns the lot of them, get rid of Labor now.
My faith in the statements coming from CSIRO was broken when they said their research had suggested that trees were no good for CO2 reduction. Why, because they put out as much CO2 as they took up. In which case how do trees grow and produce more wood year by year? Since they rely on photosynthesis to grow - which requires CO2 - where does the growth come from? Perhaps Mr Bowen has the answer for that to!
Here's the problem with photosynthesis, it only happens during the day, during the night the reverse happens, which means that these two events cancel each other out. But you are right about the growth of the tree, which holds the carbon until it is released either when burnt or natural decay. So as with everything in the world, nature stores and then releases back into the world those stores, sometimes in other forms. And in the end nature couldn't give a rats arse of what you do, for it will do what it wants and when it wants and couldn't care less about anything. One volcanic eruption puts nearly a 1000 years of co2 into the atmosphere, if that is so why haven't we all died in the 20th century let alone 2024. Like these pollys CSIRO are all cowards and traitors, they are told what to do by foreign scum and entities that have no want of benefit for any Australian.
@david, you have to think a little more and maybe trust what the CSIRO says. Trees are not an effective way to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere. It seems logical that they will be, but once you get one generation of trees in, that's it. They die, they fall over, start to rot and put their CO2 back into the atmosphere. Or you burn them, and the same thing happens. If you buried the trees under impermeable clay or something, maybe it would work but sequestering carbon in trees now is not going to make up for releasing carbon that has been buried and fossilised for 60M years.
@@robynfitzsimmons1137 - seems like you didn't remember your first year science class. We need oxygen to breathe. Plants do not need oxygen to grow, they need CO2, and they had abundant CO2 before we started burning coal and oil.
Paul Graham has only an undergrad BEcon degree. he was at Amazon for 13 yrs. that seems to be the extent of his qualifications. Chief economist at CSIRO? pathetic
Gonna have to produce a fair bit more power at the rate they're importing people into the country. But then again i guess Aussies in tents don't need 240v
How much will the ongoing costs be to wash all those solar panels & re-grease the wind turbines? And where will all that trash go in 15 years when it's just landfill? And who foots the bill to replace all the solar, turbines & power lines when they are no longer working or safe? It seems pretty easy to spend other people's money on fantasy ideological causes when you are PM. Vote One Nation for sanity folks. Mitch, Australia.
it's never been about green energy, it's about murdering the sustainable humans in their future world! sounds crazy right? But not to the 194 UN member countries POLITICIAN TRAITORS to their people!!!!!!! And so; here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
It'll cost a lot less to keep maintaining the turbines and solar farms than it does to handle a coal fired or gas fired power station. What kind of point are you trying to make? And solar panels (short of a massive hailstorm) have effective lives over 20 years. And when the farms are that big, dropping to 90% isn't such a big deal. Who foots the bill to replace them? What, are you simple? The owners do, who do you think? The companies that own the solar farms and wind farms have already factored in lifetimes, replacement cost, ROI, all of that, and they're willing to invest. Don't tell me you thought the government paid for them? "Simple' is the wrong word for you my friend. 'Demented' is probably closer to the mark.
The cost of living has risen at an alarming rate. The consumer pays for it. Replaceables aren't cost effective. Just replace coal with nuclear,without wrecking our beautiful environment. Labor stooge
@@MelbourneHandyman You must be an idiot too. Cost of living has gone up, and at least the ALP is trying to have people's incomes go up with it. More than you could say the LNP would ever do. And you can't just come out with some comment regurgitated from your favourite conservative outlet and expect to be taken seriously - "renewables aren't cost effective '(WTF is a 'replaceable'?). Tell that to anyone who's put solar on their roof and cut their power bills significantly. And that's in the early days of takeup (we're barely out of the 'early days'). Replacing coal with nuclear? Again with the regurgitated talking point, with no self-critical analysis or even understanding of the topic - a nuclear power station has never been built anywhere in the world without significant government support and funding; they've also almost never been on time, or within budget. And they are hideously expensive - most of that money would go offshore as well. And the power costs at least 5, and can exceed 8 times the cost of renewable power. Nuclear power stations are only even barely economical if they run flat out all the time. Even if we had one up and running by 2035 (I'd put money on that not happening), we would already have such a resilient grid of cheap renewable power that it would be a white elephant before it'd been turned on.
@@MelbourneHandyman - one other thing, Mr Melbourne Handyman: I'm not a Labor stooge. I make no secret that I believe the ALP is the better party, with the better policies for ordinary working Australians. A stooge would be someone who hid that and pretended to be neutral. I only appear here to try to show some light and reason in the swamp that is Sky News.
For Labor to lift the ban to allow an informed discussion (wouldn't that be scary?) it'd first have to run the gauntlet of the socialist disruptors at an annual conference. The ideological reset would take longer than building anything.
And here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
the 100 billion low ball is disgusting when you realize that add 63 more billion and we can have 24 ap 1400 reactors from korea and problem solved for 50 years [ more with up-grades as they become available] and no replacements endlessly for china every 15 years with nuclear the money stops flowing to china and the power companies because the grid is stable[ no price spikes from variable renewables needing firming when the clouds come over or the wind drops, they are building 2 power systems to do one job, thats why poweer bills are skyrocketing!
The 120 billion cost for the renewables transition comes from the people who run the electricity grid. The 100 billion low ball figure comes from the people who run the LNP.
it's never been about green energy, it's about murdering the sustainable humans in their future world! sounds crazy right? But not to the 194 UN member countries POLITICIAN TRAITORS to their people!!!!!!! And so; here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
You mean the APR1400? You wouldn't get one reactor up and running before 2040, let alone 24. And you wouldn't get 24 of any kind of reactors for $163Bn. The UAE's 4 reactor plant was about $US25Bn in 2018 dollars. You might get 12 reactors for $A163Bn. But the UAE had 18000 people working on the site. And I bet a lot of them were foreign workers being paid a pittance. Costs and timelines to do the same thing here would not compare. Besides, renewables are cheaper, they're here now and they're increasing their share. By 2030 it'll be clear we won't need nuclear power, even to you.
The reason for overrunning the price and schedule on every project in Australia is very simple and boils down to the statement failure to plan is planning to fail
We have not seen a more incompetent minister in government for the last 25 years in my opinion, totally and absolute out of his depth and we will feel the pain for 20 years down the line, how can this happen. Australia, the only country in the G20 without nuclear power🤡🤡🤡🤡
And here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
Lucky for ALL Aussies I say, considering the FACT that NO living man / woman has a CONTRACT with ANY unelected international foreign entities, period !!
It has become very evident that the ALP (Labor) socialist left party machine are quite comforrable maintaining Bowen in the ministry, even though he has fast become an electoral liability. Seems they are resolved to being a one term government.
Chris Bowen is so dumb his only career choice was to become a federal minister where the education bar is not high. The fact that he has so much power in the Albo government shows just how shallow the labour intelligence pool is!
These Australian politicians should go to a 3rd world country to see if they are successful ,if they are come back you know how to help the country if not stay there until that country is successful or dont come back !
This would be bad if it was happening 10-15 years ago. Heading down this road in 2024 is a criminal act. Ignorance is not a defence though they know exactly what they are doing. This is a matter of national security.
CSIRO - the IR means Industrial Research and that means economics is quite important in their reports. You have to know what something will cost before you can properly report on it.
Is that your answer or accusation whenever any public body says something you don't like or don't agree with? Show me the qualifications of those who make these loosely defined 'claims' against the CSIRO findings? Can't? Then shut up and read your science.
I don't believe anything from CSIRO about nuclear. They NEVER spoke to any nuclear scientist about it. When asked why not, they deemed it not necessary to have them on the discussion think tank.
Bowen is right about costs and safety if the government builds it. it'd take 50 extra years and be 10 times over budget and full of rust holes then they'd have security guards and full time staff just in case they turn it on one day
Add Nick Clegg (uk co pm in 2011) to your list of clowns. When asked about building nuclear reactors, he said it would take too long (10 years). That decision has made us suffer the consequences.
The French if they want to do something just do it. Unfortunately with your British roots you are locked in to spending as much time discussing anything new as the French take to actually do it. The French will think and concentrate on how they will do it whilst the British way is to agonise over the innumerable reasons why it cannot be done.
Well, if the Liberal Party hadn't continually reduced its funding, things would have been better, but once again, it's just people attacking the messenger because they don't like the message.
@@gribbo001 - uh no - even if I didn't like the message I would trust the CSIRO and re-examine my assumptions. You seem to go the other way. Someone tells you something that you feel comforted to believe, and the CSIRO contradicts that, so you turn on the CSIRO. Be proud of an Australian success story mate. Don't shoot it down at the behest of an Americanised Australian dynasty.
@@thosdot6497 they are bureaucrats and yes the messengers but also the authors in this case. Politics aside blind Freddy can see renewables are a political stunt. Nuclear should be at the minimum debated and as we've seen recently, Bowen and Albot won't as they know majority of Australians want it. If you don't fine, drive an ev, put a windmill in your backyard and good luck with that mate! Hats off to you. I'll put my money on democracy and the will of the majority with a sprinkling of better scientists I know than the monkeys running CSIRO oh snd the ABC too, I'll throw in for free as well
I feel sorry for Blackout Bowen, His demanding schedule towards disaster has given him a constant headache. Doctors, then Brain Scan and the results are alarming, yes you guessed it, NET ZERO! Bowen works for the Communist citizen, not Aussie folk.
Had enough of these clowns... The system is broken... Hand in our pockets.. Constant waste of money..No real vision for Australia. If these clowns spent money like they do in any business around the world, like they do, they would be sacked, or likely be jailed for mismanagement of funds... Time for change!!!
Never forget this is all self inflicted, Australian voters have voted and will continue to vote for demise of this country, it’s actually getting comical now
We have a 5kw solar system on our house. We live in Queensland with an average of 21 kw usage per day. It rained all day today and our solar system made 1.7 kws. Solar is useless when it’s cloudy and so is a wind turbine with no wind. Mr Bowen how do we power our homes without coal.
Is your point that you'll scrap your solar system because you had one day when it didn't produce the power you needed? Do you understand the concept of a grid? It might be raining where you are, but it won't be raining everywhere in Queensland, let alone Australia. When the grid is upgraded, power will be generated wherever it can be and used wherever it's needed. It's actually more resilient than having relatively few large power stations. And there are many ways to store power too - not just batteries, but pumped hydro, and some interesting new technologies like thermal storage. We definitely do not need coal to power our homes, talk about an obsolete technology...
@@thosdot6497 We are on our 2nd solar system because a number of panels failed and some were broken due to birds and flying foxes have dropped objects on them. Why should we pay for battery’s to store power when they are failing as well. Wind and solar are not the answer. We need a mixture of coal and nuclear power in the system for base load reliability.
@@toejoe5076 - not so many flying foxes out where they have large solar farms. Our farm had a 3kW system on the roof. While we were renting it out there was a haillstorm that broke several windows and damaged the roof. Not one of the solar panels was damanged, although the solar hot water was wiped out. That's largely immaterial though - individual solar systems can be damaged and repaired without it invalidating the concept. When it comes to batteries - why do you say they are failing? When did you last hear of a house battery causing a fire or failing? Telsa Powerwall 2s are guaranteed for 10 years, and to have a 70% capacity at the end of that time. For that you'd put it in the skip? You're a strange one. You've decided that you're a conservative and so you automatically assume the conservative positions without thought or understanding. Queensland doesn't deserve people like you.
@@toejoe5076 - well, that's your lookout, but it makes sense to just about everyone else. Also, just to further rebut your point on baseload power - the worst possible mix of power is trying to mix renewables with coal or nuclear. The only way that the latter two make any kind of economic sense is when they run at or near 100% capacity. Turning them up or down, or even off is immensely costly. It's why coal fired plants here pay people to take their power when renewables are producing enough to carry demand - it's cheaper than shutting down the plant and having to start it up again. It's the only reason that nuclear plants are worthwhile in France - they export their excess power because they're incredibly inefficient variable supply.
Is Bowen all there , you know I mean 10c short of a dollar, not the sharpest tool in the shed, elevator doesn’t go to the top floor, not the brightest crayon in the box, the lights on but nobody is home, hamster has died but the wheel is still going, few screws short of a hardware store, not pulling a full wagon, only has one oar in the water, etc etc etc are you getting my drift
I can't think of a worse fit for Australia than Chris Bowen
Bowen should be in jail for what he’s done to Australia
With any luck, that day will come!
Stupidity is not an indictable offence, soooo, there’s that.
@@iancurtis1152 There's always criminal negligence, but then, like Biden getting a pass on his documents case because he's too demented to be tried, their stupidity would probably get them off on that too. You'd have to prove they were following the agenda of someone else at the expense of Australia's national interests....hmmm
@@iancurtis1152 Yes, but it's not just "stupidity"; it's executing a deliberate subversion.
Just not messy street crimes with gore. In suits in offices instead and hands all over Oz
Minister Chris Bowen WORK NOT FOR AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN !!!!
He's working for China's economy.Where all the solar panels come from
HE IS NOT A MINISTER,,, BOZZZO IS A CLOWN !!!
For his own share portfolio
And here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
HAVE YIU NTICED THAT BOWEN NEVER BLINK'S 😈
Kids have more sense than Bowen and Labor
My cat has more sense than Bowen and Labor
When is Bowen going to be fact checked, challenged and held accountable for his constant net zero lies?
That's the job of the Opposition. So far they've done nothing other than disparage the CSIRO and the GenCost report and float a thought bubble nuclear policy. No ideas and the ability to express them. 💭
Bowen should've been tossed out of Labor years ago every portfolio he's had he's failed at
Bowen has always been a useless slimy lying little toad. What he’s doing in charge of our energy grid is beyond me
or even questioned on the math, feasibility and physics of it , i see that putting the life of solar and wind equal to nuclear is an agregious lie to the public and should be called out in parliment, this and other ommissions in the gencost report is scandalous
I can’t think of a worse fit for Australia than this labour government.🍌💩🤡🤬🍌💩🤡🤬
Fair dinkum! This guy fell off the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down! 😂
Labor.....you have destroyed the hope of Australia....never......ever.......vote Labor
Albo's the worst of the worst.
Same as Liberals . They are each cheek of the same arse.
Unfortunately… there are millions of morons out there who believe labor’s lies!! Even after decades of broken promises and inability to run Australia… these Labor voting idiots just don’t get it.
…Fed Union trash and woke idealism… You’de think they, the labor supporters could see beyond the broken promises and abhorrent spending!? (Considering most are hard working individuals)
@peterjackson5225 - What? The hope for clean skies? Hope for clean energy? Hope to prevent climate change getting so bad that Australia's long-term weather patterns change, and the idea of skiing in the Australian Alps is just a photographic memory? Or maybe you mean hope for decent pay rises? Or hope for a fair system for those less well off?
Maybe he's destroyed your hope of a divisive incompetent Liberal government continuing to trash the social fabric - in which case I'd just say "suck it up, Princess".
These clowns are hell bent on destroying Australian industry, between Bowen and Burke is Oblivion, next stop on the gravy train
The Labour Party should be ashamed pluse they should be charged for treason
Get the spelling of the Labor Party right before you say it commits treason. It is Labor not Labour. If you attack something, it is best to know how to spell or people will think you are stupid.
@@paulchilds9137no one cares snowflake. A smart person would get the gist. 😎👍👊🇦🇺
Totally agree !!
HAVE YIU NTICED THAT BOWEN NEVER BLINK'S 😈
@@robot336 Lol
It's not his money, he doesn't care ..Bobo & Albozo..go down is history as dumb & dumber..ffs 😮
But rich.
VERY rich...@@MichaelIrwin-j3m
The CSIRO will report whatever they're told to report.
and exclude anything else
Of course, betrothed to the progressive narrative…
they never have, and they never will. That's why the conservatives kept cutting their budgets, because they refused to toe the line. You should be a little more proud of the CSIRO and what they've discovered over the past 50-100 years, and how they've followed the science.
This is one of the saddest parts of the Murdoch war on truth and democracy - anyone and anything that says something they don't like, regardless of value and integrity, has their dedication and honesty torn down, regardless of the cost to the social fabric. We end up in a much impoverished world with no institute or outlet trusted by anyone. It's a real shame - you lot who complain about things not being like they used to be, maybe consider your part in this, where anything of value is rubbished and dismissed.
@@thosdot6497 Murdoch's war on truth and democracy? Please do tell where we can get the truth these days? The ABC? CNN? The world is a very different place these days. The days of rainbows and lollipops are long gone. It's corrupt from the top down and if you can't see that, I pity you.
@@thosdot6497The CSIRO are a pack of bludgers that manufacture research to fit the narrative of the left or whoever throws cash their way. Remember the health and wellbeing diet sponsored by the meat industry that 'through extensive research' recommended funnily enough that we consume more meat lol!!! Open your eyes!!
NET ZERO IS NOT ZERO, I wish they world get that right.
Takes alot of existing energy to build solar panels, wind generators and EV's. Its ten to fifteen years to break even before the enery is green.
@@davids-c1f
Nice to see someone knows the realities
@@davids-c1f - given you have to keep digging up coal, or getting gas and burning it, they are never green. And yes, manufactured with current technologies and sources of power, it's well known and accepted that there's a carbon cost to current renewables. Are you familiar with the term 'bootstrapping'? Just because it's like that now does not mean it will always be like that - as more renewable energy feeds the grid, more of the inputs for the renewable infrastructure will be zero-carbon.
@@davids-c1f 😂😂😂 green? 😂😂😂
@@thosdot6497Can't wait to see you produce steel without coke, and cement without limestone. Good luck with that...pfft. There's much more to it than the energy inputs...nice try though. Smh.
It makes perfect sense to spend billions of dollars on a nuclear power reactors and then go and send all of our coal and gas over seas .. brilliant idea ..
If au wants to make money, sell the emissions over seas.
Clowns are funny, Bowen's not!!!
Oh he is.....he's the ringmaster at the circus
Get rid of the subsidies on renewables, and you will see how many of these zealots start running the other way towards nuclear. Absolute clowns the lot of them, get rid of Labor now.
My faith in the statements coming from CSIRO was broken when they said their research had suggested that trees were no good for CO2 reduction. Why, because they put out as much CO2 as they took up. In which case how do trees grow and produce more wood year by year? Since they rely on photosynthesis to grow - which requires CO2 - where does the growth come from? Perhaps Mr Bowen has the answer for that to!
Well said!
forget faith.. continue your education! what do you think happens to the wood/timber/lumber when it decays or is burnt?
Here's the problem with photosynthesis, it only happens during the day, during the night the reverse happens, which means that these two events cancel each other out. But you are right about the growth of the tree, which holds the carbon until it is released either when burnt or natural decay. So as with everything in the world, nature stores and then releases back into the world those stores, sometimes in other forms. And in the end nature couldn't give a rats arse of what you do, for it will do what it wants and when it wants and couldn't care less about anything. One volcanic eruption puts nearly a 1000 years of co2 into the atmosphere, if that is so why haven't we all died in the 20th century let alone 2024. Like these pollys CSIRO are all cowards and traitors, they are told what to do by foreign scum and entities that have no want of benefit for any Australian.
@david, you have to think a little more and maybe trust what the CSIRO says.
Trees are not an effective way to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere. It seems logical that they will be, but once you get one generation of trees in, that's it. They die, they fall over, start to rot and put their CO2 back into the atmosphere. Or you burn them, and the same thing happens. If you buried the trees under impermeable clay or something, maybe it would work but sequestering carbon in trees now is not going to make up for releasing carbon that has been buried and fossilised for 60M years.
@@robynfitzsimmons1137 - seems like you didn't remember your first year science class. We need oxygen to breathe. Plants do not need oxygen to grow, they need CO2, and they had abundant CO2 before we started burning coal and oil.
Paul Graham has only an undergrad BEcon degree. he was at Amazon for 13 yrs. that seems to be the extent of his qualifications. Chief economist at CSIRO? pathetic
Unless he's been moonlighting at Amazon I think you've googled the wrong man. CSIRO's Paul Graham has worked in energy economics for 27 years.
@@gibbonsdp - yeah, but it's indicative of the level of research they'll do before trying to shred a respected institution and expert.
@@gibbonsdp nope, right man, inadequately qualified as identified. His work has been in speculative energy projections not science.
@@jaytay2776 He's an energy economist. "Speculative energy projections" is his actual job.
"Was not on his radar."
Sack him !
CSIROLabor stuges
This bloke Bowen is a flip. A 17 year old kid talks more sense. 😂😂😂
Seance? Are we talking to the dead now?
Or maybe you mean sense??
Yes I agree with you.
"tell him he's dreaming" famous Bowen zinger quote 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gonna have to produce a fair bit more power at the rate they're importing people into the country. But then again i guess Aussies in tents don't need 240v
A Ripper Rowan! Hope everyone watches this (especially Liberal MPs)
BLOWENS
DE LU SION HAS NO LIMITS.
Australia currently ABSORBS 6 times more Co2 than it emitts, so we are already at BETTER THEN the NetZero "target."
and the worst part is all these clowns will get away with misleading parliament and the Australian people.
BECAUSE OUR OWNERS WONT ALLOW IT…..
Let's investigate ourselves and see what we find.
How much will the ongoing costs be to wash all those solar panels & re-grease the wind turbines? And where will all that trash go in 15 years when it's just landfill? And who foots the bill to replace all the solar, turbines & power lines when they are no longer working or safe? It seems pretty easy to spend other people's money on fantasy ideological causes when you are PM. Vote One Nation for sanity folks. Mitch, Australia.
it's never been about green energy, it's about murdering the sustainable humans in their future world! sounds crazy right? But not to the 194 UN member countries POLITICIAN TRAITORS to their people!!!!!!! And so; here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
It'll cost a lot less to keep maintaining the turbines and solar farms than it does to handle a coal fired or gas fired power station. What kind of point are you trying to make?
And solar panels (short of a massive hailstorm) have effective lives over 20 years. And when the farms are that big, dropping to 90% isn't such a big deal.
Who foots the bill to replace them? What, are you simple? The owners do, who do you think? The companies that own the solar farms and wind farms have already factored in lifetimes, replacement cost, ROI, all of that, and they're willing to invest. Don't tell me you thought the government paid for them? "Simple' is the wrong word for you my friend. 'Demented' is probably closer to the mark.
The cost of living has risen at an alarming rate. The consumer pays for it. Replaceables aren't cost effective. Just replace coal with nuclear,without wrecking our beautiful environment. Labor stooge
@@MelbourneHandyman You must be an idiot too. Cost of living has gone up, and at least the ALP is trying to have people's incomes go up with it. More than you could say the LNP would ever do.
And you can't just come out with some comment regurgitated from your favourite conservative outlet and expect to be taken seriously - "renewables aren't cost effective '(WTF is a 'replaceable'?). Tell that to anyone who's put solar on their roof and cut their power bills significantly. And that's in the early days of takeup (we're barely out of the 'early days').
Replacing coal with nuclear? Again with the regurgitated talking point, with no self-critical analysis or even understanding of the topic - a nuclear power station has never been built anywhere in the world without significant government support and funding; they've also almost never been on time, or within budget. And they are hideously expensive - most of that money would go offshore as well. And the power costs at least 5, and can exceed 8 times the cost of renewable power. Nuclear power stations are only even barely economical if they run flat out all the time. Even if we had one up and running by 2035 (I'd put money on that not happening), we would already have such a resilient grid of cheap renewable power that it would be a white elephant before it'd been turned on.
@@MelbourneHandyman - one other thing, Mr Melbourne Handyman: I'm not a Labor stooge. I make no secret that I believe the ALP is the better party, with the better policies for ordinary working Australians. A stooge would be someone who hid that and pretended to be neutral. I only appear here to try to show some light and reason in the swamp that is Sky News.
Good stuff Zoe.
For Labor to lift the ban to allow an informed discussion (wouldn't that be scary?) it'd first have to run the gauntlet of the socialist disruptors at an annual conference. The ideological reset would take longer than building anything.
Roger, what was that word-salad actually about?
Cheaper electricity ?
Renewable energy is cheaper than nuclear power
$275 is coming, believe them
Electric vehicles were thrown on our roads without much assessment and network development or consultation.
Chris Bowen is a dinosaur and will go down in history as our most inept politician ever.
Budgerigah Bowen. The Renewables Loon. 😂
And here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
He wants solar because the public pay to put it on our houses.
Worst government in my lifetime 😢
Dead right
There will be no steak knife offer at the end of this show...they are all hanging out Australian's backs already...
And we are paying these clowns. OMG
the 100 billion low ball is disgusting when you realize that add 63 more billion and we can have 24 ap 1400 reactors from korea and problem solved for 50 years [ more with up-grades as they become available] and no replacements endlessly for china every 15 years with nuclear the money stops flowing to china and the power companies because the grid is stable[ no price spikes from variable renewables needing firming when the clouds come over or the wind drops, they are building 2 power systems to do one job, thats why poweer bills are skyrocketing!
The 120 billion cost for the renewables transition comes from the people who run the electricity grid. The 100 billion low ball figure comes from the people who run the LNP.
it's never been about green energy, it's about murdering the sustainable humans in their future world! sounds crazy right? But not to the 194 UN member countries POLITICIAN TRAITORS to their people!!!!!!! And so; here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
You mean the APR1400? You wouldn't get one reactor up and running before 2040, let alone 24. And you wouldn't get 24 of any kind of reactors for $163Bn. The UAE's 4 reactor plant was about $US25Bn in 2018 dollars. You might get 12 reactors for $A163Bn. But the UAE had 18000 people working on the site. And I bet a lot of them were foreign workers being paid a pittance. Costs and timelines to do the same thing here would not compare.
Besides, renewables are cheaper, they're here now and they're increasing their share. By 2030 it'll be clear we won't need nuclear power, even to you.
The reason for overrunning the price and schedule on every project in Australia is very simple and boils down to the statement failure to plan is planning to fail
The only thing going to reach net zero is taxpayers funds
We have not seen a more incompetent minister in government for the last 25 years in my opinion, totally and absolute out of his depth and we will feel the pain for 20 years down the line, how can this happen. Australia, the only country in the G20 without nuclear power🤡🤡🤡🤡
That’s *$715 000 per tax payer* there is *no way* Australia can afford this.
And here in Australia, the “WEF+EU+WHO+UN Cartels” Climate Change “scam” Darling one of the UN's traitors in Australia "Chris Bowen" wakes up to a perfect world, "Save the Planet, ban all petroleum products" Poor Chris Bowen. Life without petroleum and petroleum-based products. One crisp winter morning in Australia the UNs darling named Chris Bowen woke up to a perfect world, one where no petroleum products were ruining the earth. He tossed aside his cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. “What’s this?” he asked. “Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother. “What happened to the carpet?” Chris asked. “The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response. Chris Bowen smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush his teeth where instead of a toothbrush, he found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles. “Your old toothbrush?” noted his godmother, “Also nylon.” “Where’s the water?” asked Chris Bowen “Down the road in the canal,” replied his godmother, just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it.” “Why’s there no running water?” Chris Bowen asked, becoming a little peevish. “Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?” There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Australias energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . . “What’s for breakfast?” interjected Chris Bowen, whose head was hurting. "Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied his godmother. “Raw.” “How so, raw?” inquired Chris Bowen. “Well, . . .” And once again, Chris Bowen was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Australia anymore. “But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Chris Bowen. “Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.” “What!” interjected Chris Bowen “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.” “Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Australian fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.” This represents only a fraction of Chris Bowens day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet. Tune in tomorrow when Chris Bowen needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
Lucky for ALL Aussies I say, considering the FACT that NO living man / woman has a CONTRACT with ANY unelected international foreign entities, period !!
HAVE YIU NTICED THAT BOWEN NEVER BLINK'S 😈
Why does my blood pressure go up when I see Bowen, I get angry I kick the dog ,I am rude to my wife, my shit is sloppy and I lose all desire to live ?
I dunno, why don't you just follow through on that last part?
Casanova Bowen someone you can not trust.
And the vulnerable and ill-informed continue to vote for Labor even though, they are worse off under this government than before!
Chris Bowen has a brain equal to NET ZERO....😂😂😂😂😂
It has become very evident that the ALP (Labor) socialist left party machine are quite comforrable maintaining Bowen in the ministry, even though he has fast become an electoral liability. Seems they are resolved to being a one term government.
I don't remember things being this dumb back in the day 😕
You didn't have the Murdoch press to add their special kind of dumb to the proceedings, that's why.
The clowns show include CSIRO, RMIT FACT-CHECKERS, the ABC and the Albanese Government. Why do we pay these people?
Bowen was Wayne Swans apprentice so please have him removed.
Power price hike coming soon.
Given that wholesale electricity prices have halved, I'm expecting lower bills coming soon.
Bring on the next Election you are gone Bowen.
If he is going to $100 billion dollars. What a smart person you are. Another person who could loose his seat.
A 17yo sweept the floor with Bowen
Bowen is at the pinnacle of incompetence 😂😂😂
Chris Bowen is so dumb his only career choice was to become a federal minister where the education bar is not high. The fact that he has so much power in the Albo government shows just how shallow the labour intelligence pool is!
These Australian politicians should go to a 3rd world country to see if they are successful ,if they are come back you know how to help the country if not stay there until that country is successful or dont come back !
Is he on drugs look at his eye
This would be bad if it was happening 10-15 years ago. Heading down this road in 2024 is a criminal act. Ignorance is not a defence though they know exactly what they are doing. This is a matter of national security.
Must be nice playing monopoly with people's lives ,these high end earners wont feel the pinch of all these policies but we will
Since when was economics a science?
CSIRO - the IR means Industrial Research and that means economics is quite important in their reports. You have to know what something will cost before you can properly report on it.
CSIRO has been politicised.
Is that your answer or accusation whenever any public body says something you don't like or don't agree with? Show me the qualifications of those who make these loosely defined 'claims' against the CSIRO findings? Can't? Then shut up and read your science.
I don't believe anything from CSIRO about nuclear. They NEVER spoke to any nuclear scientist about it. When asked why not, they deemed it not necessary to have them on the discussion think tank.
Bowen is right about costs and safety if the government builds it. it'd take 50 extra years and be 10 times over budget and full of rust holes then they'd have security guards and full time staff just in case they turn it on one day
CSIRO used to be amazing. So sad what has happened to it.
Imagine a rock you heat up and it gives off energy? Oh wait, it exists and is used everywhere, hell we even take Frances used heated rocks…
Add Nick Clegg (uk co pm in 2011) to your list of clowns. When asked about building nuclear reactors, he said it would take too long (10 years). That decision has made us suffer the consequences.
Net zero will cost the earth, literally and figuratively.
Bowen has to go, end of story! He’s dangerous, ignorant, arrogant and deluded!
aka his mates will not make money from going nuclear.
This grubberment needs to be sacked, before Australia is completely broke
The French if they want to do something just do it. Unfortunately with your British roots you are locked in to spending as much time discussing anything new as the French take to actually do it. The French will think and concentrate on how they will do it whilst the British way is to agonise over the innumerable reasons why it cannot be done.
This clown would have to be one of the worst politicians ever!
Casanova Bowen......
Bowens energy dream is one he came up with while on L.S.D
I like the name cassanova bowen better than BoBo
Ha ha ha CSIRO was once full of scientists now a shell of itself full of grade 3 science teachers
Well, if the Liberal Party hadn't continually reduced its funding, things would have been better, but once again, it's just people attacking the messenger because they don't like the message.
@@thosdot6497 should take your own advice
@@gribbo001 - uh no - even if I didn't like the message I would trust the CSIRO and re-examine my assumptions. You seem to go the other way. Someone tells you something that you feel comforted to believe, and the CSIRO contradicts that, so you turn on the CSIRO. Be proud of an Australian success story mate. Don't shoot it down at the behest of an Americanised Australian dynasty.
@@thosdot6497 they are bureaucrats and yes the messengers but also the authors in this case. Politics aside blind Freddy can see renewables are a political stunt. Nuclear should be at the minimum debated and as we've seen recently, Bowen and Albot won't as they know majority of Australians want it. If you don't fine, drive an ev, put a windmill in your backyard and good luck with that mate! Hats off to you. I'll put my money on democracy and the will of the majority with a sprinkling of better scientists I know than the monkeys running CSIRO oh snd the ABC too, I'll throw in for free as well
I feel sorry for Blackout Bowen, His demanding schedule towards disaster has given him a constant headache. Doctors, then Brain Scan and the results are alarming, yes you guessed it, NET ZERO! Bowen works for the Communist citizen, not Aussie folk.
Had enough of these clowns... The system is broken... Hand in our pockets.. Constant waste of money..No real vision for Australia. If these clowns spent money like they do in any business around the world, like they do, they would be sacked, or likely be jailed for mismanagement of funds... Time for change!!!
blackout bowen is the worst fit in australia
He needs to sign a contract stating he will see jail time when this fails.
Never forget this is all self inflicted, Australian voters have voted and will continue to vote for demise of this country, it’s actually getting comical now
Labor will be gone because if he thinks the people of Australia are stupid he may want to think long and hard as well as the CSIRO.
The only thing net zero about Bowen is his intellect
Bloody hilarious guys!
If you look up the word despot it says Casanova Bowen. The Australian politician who fuct everything he touched.
Remove all Retirement Village candidates from Canberra and bring in young Australians to run the country.
You are the worst fit for Australia not Nuclear Bobo
OH DEAR.... They have let Casanova out again
We have a 5kw solar system on our house.
We live in Queensland with an average of 21 kw usage per day.
It rained all day today and our solar system made 1.7 kws.
Solar is useless when it’s cloudy and so is a wind turbine with no wind.
Mr Bowen how do we power our homes without coal.
Is your point that you'll scrap your solar system because you had one day when it didn't produce the power you needed?
Do you understand the concept of a grid? It might be raining where you are, but it won't be raining everywhere in Queensland, let alone Australia. When the grid is upgraded, power will be generated wherever it can be and used wherever it's needed. It's actually more resilient than having relatively few large power stations.
And there are many ways to store power too - not just batteries, but pumped hydro, and some interesting new technologies like thermal storage.
We definitely do not need coal to power our homes, talk about an obsolete technology...
@@thosdot6497 We are on our 2nd solar system because a number of panels failed and some were broken due to birds and flying foxes have dropped objects on them.
Why should we pay for battery’s to store power when they are failing as well.
Wind and solar are not the answer.
We need a mixture of coal and nuclear power in the system for base load reliability.
@@toejoe5076 - not so many flying foxes out where they have large solar farms.
Our farm had a 3kW system on the roof. While we were renting it out there was a haillstorm that broke several windows and damaged the roof. Not one of the solar panels was damanged, although the solar hot water was wiped out. That's largely immaterial though - individual solar systems can be damaged and repaired without it invalidating the concept.
When it comes to batteries - why do you say they are failing? When did you last hear of a house battery causing a fire or failing? Telsa Powerwall 2s are guaranteed for 10 years, and to have a 70% capacity at the end of that time. For that you'd put it in the skip? You're a strange one. You've decided that you're a conservative and so you automatically assume the conservative positions without thought or understanding. Queensland doesn't deserve people like you.
@@thosdot6497 It cost us over $6000.
I will never put solar on my roof again.
@@toejoe5076 - well, that's your lookout, but it makes sense to just about everyone else. Also, just to further rebut your point on baseload power - the worst possible mix of power is trying to mix renewables with coal or nuclear. The only way that the latter two make any kind of economic sense is when they run at or near 100% capacity. Turning them up or down, or even off is immensely costly. It's why coal fired plants here pay people to take their power when renewables are producing enough to carry demand - it's cheaper than shutting down the plant and having to start it up again. It's the only reason that nuclear plants are worthwhile in France - they export their excess power because they're incredibly inefficient variable supply.
Send Blackout Bowen to the North Pole to sell ice to the Eskimos
Oh no ,AI has caught up with Chris Bowen, he has lost his ability to critically think..
What about the feral animals CSIRO, let them run free now hey.
Another one who leans his head over to one side must be a contagious with a finger pointing to the sky
If South Africa has nuclear power, there is no reason Australia shouldn't.
Is Bowen all there , you know I mean 10c short of a dollar, not the sharpest tool in the shed, elevator doesn’t go to the top floor, not the brightest crayon in the box, the lights on but nobody is home, hamster has died but the wheel is still going, few screws short of a hardware store, not pulling a full wagon, only has one oar in the water, etc etc etc are you getting my drift
Net zero is not possible without nuclear.
Ahhhh..... its actually called Fascism.....go look up what that means...
The CSIRO is federally funded so they are not going to contradict Bobo or his ilk.
Yet, Australians still support this circus? Ridiculous.
Thank god there are some young people that can see through the lies and BS, there is hope for the future.🤞
Bowen net-zero is not possible it would be to expensive for 90% of the population
Australia heading down the path of Greece, A economic basket case .
Get accountants involved ,, they just move things into different columns and WAMMO no tax to be paid or in this case YEP we already achieved net zero