Does A Trade For Flames Goalie Jacob Markstrom Make Sense For Senators? + NHL Draft Rankings: 20-18
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024
- If you hear a rumour about a goalie being traded, chances are the Ottawa Senators are in the mix.
Brandon Piller and Ross Levitan discuss the rumour that Sens GM Steve Staios is in talks with the Calgary Flames to acquire Jacob Markstrom. Is this something the Sens could realistically pull off, can they outbid other teams who are also looking for a tendy? We continue our 2024 NHL Draft Prospect Profiles with: #20: Michael Hage, #19: Igor Chernyshov and #18: Liam Greentree.
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Congratulations Pilzy on getting engaged and congratulations Ross on the new addition to the family coming! Big life changing moments for you both!
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First of all, a BIG Brady sized congratulations to both of you!
Second of all, on the goalie front, what do you guys think about maybe targeting Spencer Knight? It's a bit of a riskier move, but he was pretty good in the NHL in the years he did play. Former 1st round pick. And with the way Bobrovsky has played the past two years and his $10M salary, Stolarz, Reinhart, and Montour being UFA, Lundell RFA, and only 12 skaters signed with $20M to spare, freeing Knight's $4.5M might be worthwhile to them.
In a small sample size, he was stellar in 4 AHL playoff games. In the regular season he had a strong GAA but medium SVP on a team that wasn't very good. He out goalied Magnus Hellberg and put up a record of 25-14-5 with 5SO, 2.41GAA, and .905 SVP for a 23 year old goalie in his first year back after his diagnosis and battle with OCD/Depression. Or is he too much of a risk, and too similar in his projection to Sogaard?
Great show as always!
I don't think Markstrom is the answer. I just think he's a bit too old for this group. Having said that I won't be mad if he ends up being the guy Stevey trades for. I think Ullmark is the #1 target. I just don't see a team taking Korpi making this whole move pretty complicated. Thanks Pierre!!
Congrats on your life changing news Ross and Pillzy!
You guys are thinking like the old regime still. We can't be making these knee jerk moves anymore and I think moving Korpi AND getting another goalie is too complicated of a move to pull off this summer. We're likely gonna have to eat 2 more years of Korpi's contract before anyone will touch it and buying him out is a terrible idea too. There are a lot of problems with this team, let's focus on ones we can solve this summer like getting a RD to play with Chabot and shoring up our bottom 6 with some hard-nosed vets.
I also thought Forsy was surely gone but if you watch the Travis Green video where he's touring the facilities he runs into Forsy working out and Green seemed surprised he was there for the summer training and impressed as well. I'm probably looking to far into it but hey....it's the offseason lol
Congrats to both you guys! Awesome news all around!
Great content as always guys, congratulations again!!!
Awrsome news boys! Congratulations to the both of you, as well as to your better halves!!!
Congratulations to Ross and Rachael on your exciting news! Congrats again to Pillzy and Simone!
Biggest news this offseason, congrats boys!
Also I'm a huge fan of Hage. I really think he'll be gone by 25 much closer to late teens. He's a great play driver that I think would translate to the NHL very seamlessly. If we can get him at 25 I'd be ecstatic
No way!!! For a 35 year old goalie,,, personally I’d trade Chycrun only for another Right shot D or power forward. I’d pay my money for two big Right shot D’s and go with the two goalies again… keep Merilineen in the background just in case… if Korpi gets hot, he would be much easier to deal, and this team is still a couple of years away from really competing for a long playoff run. Sorry Ross but doesnt Greentree sound a bit like Halliday…. Congrats to Pilsy on his engagement and to Ross with the news of his wife’s pregnancy!!!
Do not move any 1st rounders. If we can't get Markstrom, Saros or Ullmark for a trade around Chych then we should call Carolina about Andersen, Wild about Gus, Kraken about Daccord, Utah about Vejmelka etc who should be available for a 2nd-ish type of value.
Not sure Markstrom wants to "get the band back together" with Green, since that didn't work out so well the first time. But you keep talking it up.
I was so, so utterly despondent with Korpi last year. BUT… I think we should give him/ forsy/ Soggy another year behind a decent D and a better all round team.
Markstrom would have waive. I think biggest hurtle is convincing him Ottawa is just missing a goalie from being a cup contender. I believe Ottawa & Flames have enough desire but can the player buy in is big pending question.
I think the Sens have a good chance on getting a legitimate goalie. Teams with the goalies available are still looking to compete and being able to sell them on a 1st round pick and Chychrun is a lot more than teams like Toronto and others can offer
What I would look at doing is picking up Ilya Samsonov out of free agency.Thats the first move,then try to move Korpisalo and Forsberg.If you give up number 7,do it for a right shot d man,thstsvproven.You could also move Chychrun for a first this year.A double move.Give up a pick for a player,and then pick up a pick by moving a player.
I definately think Korpi is a buyout option. The Sens also have dead cap coming off and I don't think this buyout is going to hamper anything going forward cap wise
I think it does. You don't want any amount of dead cap on the books if you can help it. We just got out from under a bunch, I really don't want more back on there for the next 8 years.
Flames wont get nearly that much for Markstrom but if Staios is prepared to offer something similar than you have to just go all in for Saros. Saros athletism could cover up a lot of mistakes this team makes defensively and I think hes by far the best fit based on his style of play.
Yeah but Saros is a rental. He has 1 year left at 5 million. How do you fit the 5 million in with Pinto, fixing the RD, and finding that veteran forward they want? Saw 2 different articles saying he hasn't started negotiating a contract yet because him and his agent are waiting for the Shesterkin contract to come in. Rumors are that Shesterkin is looking for 11 to 12.5 mil. Saros values himself at just below that. Maybe around 9.5 to 10 mil. No way Ottawa's cap next year fits that in. Unless you are trading away a couple of their 8 million dollar men in the same season. Saros is rumored to be staying now with the Preds.
For Markstrom, I'd give up a 39th overall and a prospect like Jarventie. The Flames asking price is something around what I would give up for Saros slightly more. Flames wont get anywhere near that ask for Markstrom
He won't go to Ottawa anyway. His focus is to win, so NJ
I don't mind Markstrom but not for chychrun and the 25th. Maybe Markstrom and the 9th for Chychrun and the 7th. Personally I'd rather look at Ullmark or Logan Thompson. Brossoit or Gustavsson
Senators nation!! I'm here to tell you all,, wake up and pull the trigger and get Jacob Markstrom and use the 7th overall pick.. Brady Tkachuks life in Ottawa depends on it because if you miss playoffs again he will 💯 pull an Eichel!!! You get Markstrom,, you will make the playoffs!! Done deal !! Get it done a gift from a Flames fan who also likes the Sens and would like to see them make the playoffs.. You guys never have a number one goalie ever I mean seriously back to 2007 it's been rough so many talented players but goaltending always the shits.. Get it done Sens WE WILL BOTH WIN FROM IT
The Eichel situation was more to do with the Sabres not supporting his choice of neck surgery, not the performance of the team. Also Craig Anderson exists? What even is this comment
@@spencerdowney1379 Brady wants playoffs he will leave due to GM's negligence to make moves and add to the roster to help Tkachuk to help Giroux
Greentree was dissapointing at the u18s. His skating is rough. I'm higher on guys like Ritchie, Boisvert and Beaudoin
Hard pass on Markstrom unless it was for a small return. Imo, there is no universe where a 34yo goalie coming off a bad year is worth what the Flames are rumoured to be asking.
I’m sure he’s still got some good years left, but he’s equally as a likely to start dropping little by little every year. I’d look elsewhere
Sens traded for Debrincat on July 7th, paid Norris his 8 mil a week later, then Stutzle in September, his 8 mil.
Stutzle in first year, scored 29 points in 53 games and followed first year with 58 points in 79 games and media is brainwashed into believing he was an $8 mill player;
Tkachuk earned his 8 mil salary in his 4th year, after posting 45 points in 71 games, 44 points in 71 games, 36 points in 56 games;
Norris earned his 8 mil salary, a week after the Debrincat trade, first year 0 points in 3 games, 35 points in 56 games, 55 points in 66 games;
Chabot earned his 8 mil, 0 points in 1 game in his first year, 25 points in 63 games, 55 points in 70 games and then his point production drops off after getting his contract;
Sanderson earned his 8 mil by getting 32 points in 77 games in first year, then received his 8 mill offer.
Timmy, Brady, Sanderson are definitely a bargain with what they are paid. It’s a shame chabot gets hurt a lot but otherwise he’s worth what he’s paid. The only overpay I would say is Norris although if he is healthy and gets to shooting the puck like he can he’s worth it too. Goaltending hurts this team the most and we need a top 4 RHD and some more veteran forwards. We are close to being an amazing team and I still believe it can happen
@@adamgates4659 how do you even consider these players' contracts to be bargains when they haven't won anything? They only had a year or two experience before they were offered these salaries. Silly contracts.
@@2Jim2u dude I’m not sure who’s your fav team but I’m sure 31 other teams in the league would take Brady, Timmy, and Sanderson contract in a heartbeat they make way less then they could be on other teams. Maybe not so much chabot and Norris I’ll give you that but for you to think the other guys aren’t good value contracts you’re just lying to yourself
@@adamgates4659 its called Salary Cap and other teams have the same restraints, and those 3 players haven't won anything.
@@2Jim2u who’s your team I’m curious because your argument is stupid what because a player hasn’t won a cup he doesn’t deserve what he’s worth? Is mcdavid or matthews not worth what they’re paid ? They haven’t won anything
can we for once not give up a future goalie for a guy whos 35 and soon to retire?
Got to fix D core first. We need a solid RD defender. Maybe a swap with Calgary would make sense as they seem to have a surplus of RD's. Chychrun&Korpi for Anderson&Markstrom might work.
I'd make a trade like Chabot and Zub going to Calgary for Andersson and Weegar. Don't get on me for that but we upgrade with a trade like this. I just don't think Markstrom is the answer for the Sens and his mind is on NJ if I'm taking a guess.
@@sens_outlook Andersson and Weegar plus the 7th pick?
So goalie who’s better than Korpi, and a D man who’s better than Chychrun…. For Korpi and Chychrun. You haven’t thought this through, mate.
@MagicMike_101 I don't think we need to trade 7 unless we were to trade down to 9 and get another pick (28?). I think the value going both ways is almost equal. If anything 25 could be involved but I wouldn't guarantee it.
@@sens_outlook I'd say Andersson and Weegs were the first D line for the season, and these two from the Sens are at different levels (comparing stats), or age (Flames looking for
I'm going to flip my shit if we pay a ton to get rid of korpisalo just for him to be an allstar somewhere else and we get markstrom and he lays a turd on the ice.. Ottawa is going to have a hard time making moves this offseason. I dont see us making the playoffs for another 3 years atleast..Dorion really screwed us..
Blah Blah Blah. The minute the Sens buy out Korpi's contract suddenly detracts from the Sal Cap. Markstrom is just the starter, 2.75 for Forsberg. Now goaltending tandem is close to 9 mil, more then the cost of 5 - 8 mill players, plus 2 4.6 mil players. Giroux' 6.5 mil contract. Batherson's 4.975.
Sens became very good at giving money away, without buying anything.
Sens cannot afford another goalie fiasco. They better be 100% sure the guy can play at the level expected.
You can't be sure with anybody at this point. I'm in the camp of solving or at least greatly improving our defence first and by the time we do, maybe we don't need to solve goaltending because A) Korpi and Forsy are playing at least a bit better (I'm talking like .900 sv%) or B) Sogaard is ready to take over
@@SceptileSlash agreed
Let’s see….he’ll be 35 and was 23-23-2 last year. Barely better than korpisalo in a terrible year for him. If they can get him for free or close to it then go for it. Good luck. He’s turning 35! $6 million???
Value should be loooooow
And no way we’re trading #7 for a goalie. That’s Dorion stuff
Whay not target a young goalie like Silovs?
Because ottawa can't afford him. He's at max value right now
Hot take: I'd go for Varlamov before Markstrom.... My order of preference: Ullmark, Soros, Varlamov, Markstrom.
Askarov too
Sign Chris Driedger, he could be a very good starting goalie.
OTT receives
#9 overall
G Jacob Markstrom
CGY receives
#7 overall (they move up to select Tij)
#25 overall
Thoughts? GSG!
I would do Chychrun, 7th OA & Joseph for Markstrom, 9th OA & Miromanov RD, the money is close & both sides get something they want. Chychrun becomes their top pair LD & they get closer to drafting Iginla if he falls to 7th which I suspect he will without them giving up another pick. Markstrom is 34 yrs old which is starting to get old in hockey.
I would then draft Yakemchuk 9th OA & get that big, tough high scoring RD for Ott's near future. I would trade Korpisalo to NJ for Mercer RW. Ott ends up with a #1 goalie, an experienced big tough RD, a Rwer for the middle six & a future high scoring RD in the draft.
And why in the fuck does NJ have any interest in the goalie with the worst save percentage in the league, who is still making $4m for another four years??? Is phase 2 of your master plan to trade Kastelic for Connor McDavid?