Sitting next to his dad listening to him cuss him out in Vietnamese at the end of the match is wild. Hard not to feel bad for the kid seeing him tear up at the end, but maybe thats just the coaching style that works for their relationship
I have a lot of questions: You sat next to his dad? Can we see you in the video? LOL You speak Vietnamese? I’ve seen comments like this about their relationship but I never see any about ALW and her mom who’s publicly stated she says mean spirited things to get ALW going. I wonder why that is….
Quang has only one style - hard, fast, hard and fast. Ben is the complete package - he can be athletic and hard game and delicate and the soft game. Great job Ben!!!
Quang beat Ben on the majority of the cat and mouse games. My boy Quang is better than Ben, he just choked at the end of game three. I like Ben but Style Bender is the future of sport.
@@PhilProfEdwardschoking at the end is part of not being better yet. There were stretches where Quang looked like the far superior player, but truthfully he’s probably just the better athlete. Ben was wayyyy off his normal game today. That part was obvious. A standard deviation below his normal play and he still found a way. I like Quang too but we have to be objective about what we see.
I've said this before in another one of Quong's matches. If he just added a little more soft game, I think that would help him. He's currently at 90% hard game...maybe 80/20 would be better.
Quang always plays out of his mind vs Ben. Was painting the baseline with returns for awhile. He choked away match point a couple of times man. His drives are so good he could’ve taken some heat off them at the end.
At 6:10 one of the announcers mentions how Quang is constantly looking over at the bench, speculating that something’s wrong. I’ve noticed that in every game he plays, though. Watch him - he looks over after nearly every shot.
@@SanityReigns-pz8qh a) I don’t know who he’s looking at for sure, b) don’t know if, as you say, no coaching is allowed outside of timeouts, though I will assume you are correct there, and c) don’t know what constitutes coaching. I haven’t seen any cameras directed toward whoever Quang is looking at but would like to know if any signaling seems to be going on, or is it just “encouragement”? Clapping, saying “You got this”, etc? And, again, don’t know if coaches are allowed to signal anything. Maybe they can. Lots of conjecture. Just wanted to comment that I’ve seen it every match I’ve watch him play. It’s so regular, it began to really stand out to me. Amazing shots from Quang against Johns, and incredible mental strength from Johns (and, of course, play) to pull out the win.
The key for Ben or anybody for that matter is to be to consistently hit the ball into the kitchen from the baseline bringing the other player up. Anyone can bang away all day..
It seemed to me It changed when Ben failed to hit a ball out of the air, in the middle of game three. After that, he took several out of the air for winners. crazy good by both.
Hey Atlanta Open, move to the rally scoring like the MLP. I'm a busy guy, I can't spend 5 minutes to see one point scored. I need to know approximately how long a match will take, so I can manage my time appropriately. Thanks.
crazy how little quangnathan is the only one who can make ben sweat, and how ben is seed 2 even though federico has never even made it close before against ben. the only way federico has won a tournament in the last few years has been when quang knocked out ben or ben didnt participate.
Quang Dong has so much potential, but he seems to lack the IQ or experience to read the flow of the rally, he seems to throw away the ball with unforced errors because he thinks it was the time to go for a winner when it was just not the right time. The skill/talent is there, but needs to train his mind more. I've been guilty of self-sabotaging play in Tennis, so easy to spot this a mile away. Again and again during match point Quang kept wanting to put the game away, but why he chose those times made no sense...he likely only needed a few more rallies back and forth to go for the winner and seal the deal, or Johns may have just made an error himself. Johns is much better mentally, but tad weaker in talent. This shows you how sometimes being mentally strong beats skill and talent.
The sharp exhale as you uncoil your core through a stroke is a core tennet of any racquet sport. The sharpness can be exaggerated with sound for consistency. Soooo....I think the moans will probably stay.....for scientific reasons
WOW what a match! Duong is definitely a banger (not that Ben doesn't put some away nicely) but Ben showed unmatched finesse with those spinning resets!
Yes. Grunts are annoying in tennis and pickleball. Thanks for calling them grunts, not ‘tennis’ grunts. As the sport becomes more athletic, grunts will be more common.
"Quang has a long way to go to beat Ben" is an absolute stupid statement. Quang is only 18 and Ben started when he was roughly 24. Quang's mental game is not there yet but he'll get there quicker. Ben's edge is his mental game. He's a master of patience and consistency. But when Quang gets more experience (which will be sooner then later) he will dominate. Ben is still the number one player. But the sport is moving in Quang's favor. (unless of course, the governing league nerfs the rules to bring it back to a playground activity 😉)
Because more people are casually playing pickleball, there is less need for athleticism so people who aren’t in pristine shape can play and compete pretty well, the learning curve isn’t as high (it’s easier to be competitive at a casual level in pickleball than in tennis), the courts are smaller so you can fit more in a given area thus more people can play concurrently, need I go on? Why don’t you ask yourself why you’re trying to prevent people from playing a fun casual sport?
How are they rude? They do it in Tennis and Badminton and other sports. It's been proven that the grunting can lead to more power and keeps your core stable, keeps your breathing consistent. Just cause you don't like the sound, doesn't mean it's not valid or disrespectful
Remember that guy shouts every time if he wins a point in foreign language? If you people can’t stand grunts in professional sports and make it so politically, stay away from his match. Simple as that.
@@BlGSac They tried to ban it in tennis, but didn't have the cajones to follow through. Forceful expelling of air does not need to result in a drawn out grunt. That came about in tennis very much as a borderline distraction, cover the ball-strike sound, tactic.
Folks, Quang's "style" is where pickleball is headed. All paddle and racket sports evolve to quicker, stronger and athletic shots and players. You "dinkers" are going the way of the dinosaur. Sports history is against you. Adapt.
The mental toughness of Ben Johns to win the last 6 points of the game and win the match is impressive.
spoiler 😐
Sitting next to his dad listening to him cuss him out in Vietnamese at the end of the match is wild. Hard not to feel bad for the kid seeing him tear up at the end, but maybe thats just the coaching style that works for their relationship
Really? Hopefully it wasn’t cussing him out and more constructive 😬
Were you sitting next to him throughout the match? If so, is Quang looking at him (after nearly every point)?
@@andrewtirado1778 yeah after every point he would look over at his dad as if he is looking for advice or approval
@@imK3VBOT could you tell if his dad was giving any?
I have a lot of questions: You sat next to his dad? Can we see you in the video? LOL You speak Vietnamese?
I’ve seen comments like this about their relationship but I never see any about ALW and her mom who’s publicly stated she says mean spirited things to get ALW going. I wonder why that is….
Nasty forehands at the end by Ben. Great match
Clutch!
Commentators glazing for ben is wild
Quang has only one style - hard, fast, hard and fast. Ben is the complete package - he can be athletic and hard game and delicate and the soft game. Great job Ben!!!
Quang beat Ben on the majority of the cat and mouse games. My boy Quang is better than Ben, he just choked at the end of game three. I like Ben but Style Bender is the future of sport.
He has a Long Way to go to beat Ben John’s,, Best Pickleball Player in the World 🌎.
@@PhilProfEdwardschoking at the end is part of not being better yet. There were stretches where Quang looked like the far superior player, but truthfully he’s probably just the better athlete. Ben was wayyyy off his normal game today. That part was obvious. A standard deviation below his normal play and he still found a way. I like Quang too but we have to be objective about what we see.
@@PhilProfEdwards Ya not ....... Quang has a long way to go yet!
Quang just lost to him. Avoid the excuses. You look willy.
23:47 insane shot from Quang, dude has had some nasty ATPs against Ben lol
Especially the single-handed backhand ATP was amazing.
Ben Johnson; is aCool;
composed; quiet dynamic young man
pleasure to watch him play..
entertaining..
His maturity level is off the charts. He's also very well-spoken.
i get it Ben John is the best player in the world .... but these commentators sound like fanboys, very biased commentary
Ben got his get back. He looked solid, and Quang has some sick patterns!
great contrast of styles. great game!
To see a player *redline* for the whole match (Duong) is impressive.
Good win for Ben, who played under control 85% of the match.
Quong is young and quickly getting better. At this pace, he'll overtake Ben soon.
Maybe, but I doubt he could have played any better in this match.
I just got in to pickleball and wow great match.
Learning a lot from these pros Ben with the come back to win.
these commentators are glazing ben
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I've said this before in another one of Quong's matches. If he just added a little more soft game, I think that would help him. He's currently at 90% hard game...maybe 80/20 would be better.
Wow, awesome, Ben.
Quang always plays out of his mind vs Ben. Was painting the baseline with returns for awhile. He choked away match point a couple of times man. His drives are so good he could’ve taken some heat off them at the end.
@7:52 “Kinks in the armor” is how you properly say it, what you’re saying on air is a bit racist… just letting ya know….
It was strange to hear clapping while Duong was setting up to serve.
Great job Ben!
Is that a foot fault on ben at 32:22? He slid his foot back but it looks like he was touching when he hit the ball
Definitely a fault. Ref missed it. I didnt see it till you pointed it out!
To be honest I find this incredibly tricky with pickleball. Good luck trying to see if a foot is 2mm above the ground
Great work Ben !
Gaithersburg & Bauer Rec congratulate you, sir !
At 6:10 one of the announcers mentions how Quang is constantly looking over at the bench, speculating that something’s wrong. I’ve noticed that in every game he plays, though. Watch him - he looks over after nearly every shot.
His dad is his coach
How the hell you know? Abused? Come on, every player has his own style. Don’t judge. Or maybe you a better player.
He looks to his dad and he gets here. Where are your kids? C'mon people.
@@razrgu3838
No coaching allowed outside of timeouts. Not saying he is, but I've seen it in person and it's not a good look.
@@SanityReigns-pz8qh a) I don’t know who he’s looking at for sure, b) don’t know if, as you say, no coaching is allowed outside of timeouts, though I will assume you are correct there, and c) don’t know what constitutes coaching. I haven’t seen any cameras directed toward whoever Quang is looking at but would like to know if any signaling seems to be going on, or is it just “encouragement”? Clapping, saying “You got this”, etc? And, again, don’t know if coaches are allowed to signal anything. Maybe they can. Lots of conjecture. Just wanted to comment that I’ve seen it every match I’ve watch him play. It’s so regular, it began to really stand out to me. Amazing shots from Quang against Johns, and incredible mental strength from Johns (and, of course, play) to pull out the win.
What a match. Duongmiss a bunch but that’s his style. Go for broke. Respect.
Tiếc quá Quang Dương ơi! Chỉ còn 1 quả mà không kết thúc được!
I wish Quang Duong win Vizzy Atlanta Open champion 2025. He will vs Jack Sock at final.
Ben Johns still the best!
Quang couldn't have played a better match than he did in this one, and he still lost. However, his shot-making is the best in the sport.
Quang Dương ơi hôm nào về Hà Nội đến Câu Lạc Bộ Pickle ball của chú chỉ cho ít kỹ thuật nhé
Quang is 17 yrs old? Dayum… close games! Great job to both! Quang is gonna be a menace
He's 18 and is already a menace. His shot-making skills are the best.
@@gambler213 Until Quang plays Federico Stakruds 🤣
The key for Ben or anybody for that matter is to be to consistently hit the ball into the kitchen from the baseline bringing the other player up. Anyone can bang away all day..
What's their record this year (Duong vs B.Johns)? 2-2, i believe.
We have all been privileged to see the future of pickleball and it is spelled Dong. The kid is amazing, and will only improve with time.
I'm pretty sure it's spelled wrong. Who the hell is Dong?
heartbreaker of a loss...I hope Quong can recover. Keep going man!
quang would win more games if he grunted less
This return was out but was not called 1:05!
It seemed to me It changed when Ben failed to hit a ball out of the air, in the middle of game three. After that, he took several out of the air for winners. crazy good by both.
Ben just showed us why is the #2 singles player in the world
Singles in points, but he has dominated Fed.
What do the commentators mean when they say “Cat and mouse game”?
the grunting is too much. At what point is it a hindrance😆
Ya me too. So distracting
Hate the grunts! yuk!!!
Commentators should be calling the match, not root for a particular player. I can do without the commentators.
Hey Atlanta Open, move to the rally scoring like the MLP. I'm a busy guy, I can't spend 5 minutes to see one point scored. I need to know approximately how long a match will take, so I can manage my time appropriately. Thanks.
You need to retire like the rest of us.
crazy how little quangnathan is the only one who can make ben sweat, and how ben is seed 2 even though federico has never even made it close before against ben. the only way federico has won a tournament in the last few years has been when quang knocked out ben or ben didnt participate.
never played pickleball here, why the score don’t increase at very beginning of the game?
You can only score when it’s your serve and you get the point
Great comeback !
Quang Dong has so much potential, but he seems to lack the IQ or experience to read the flow of the rally, he seems to throw away the ball with unforced errors because he thinks it was the time to go for a winner when it was just not the right time. The skill/talent is there, but needs to train his mind more. I've been guilty of self-sabotaging play in Tennis, so easy to spot this a mile away. Again and again during match point Quang kept wanting to put the game away, but why he chose those times made no sense...he likely only needed a few more rallies back and forth to go for the winner and seal the deal, or Johns may have just made an error himself. Johns is much better mentally, but tad weaker in talent. This shows you how sometimes being mentally strong beats skill and talent.
100% 👍🏼
Quang Duong can beat Ben Jones in the future. His shot is amazing.
38:10 the announcer said SACK instead of Sock 😂
Why is Quang doing the tennis grunts/groans?? Like there’s no need for it lmao
He comes from a tennis background. He was a top ranking junior in tennis before he switched. His habits and style comes from that.
These are pickleball grunts. Not tennis grunts. He is playing pickleball. Tennis does not have a monopoly on grunts.
I still think it’s not necessary at that level. You don’t hear the John’s or ALWaters making noises. It’s a wiffle ball not a heavy tennis ball.
Duong is a very strong tennis player too. You can find some of this matches online.
Does Duong yell “what!” after some of his winners?
Yes, often
Announcers riding Ben so hard
Must we have the tennis moans in pickleball , it’s very annoying !!
The sharp exhale as you uncoil your core through a stroke is a core tennet of any racquet sport. The sharpness can be exaggerated with sound for consistency. Soooo....I think the moans will probably stay.....for scientific reasons
I actually found Duong's tennis matches online. He is actually very good at tennis too.
😂
Athletic moans are not only owned by tennis. Must we have loud boom boxes on pickleball courts as well. They are not as necessary.
🎉 great,
Dương vội vã nên đánh lỗi, thua là đúng rồi, còn trình nếu đánh chuẩn là hơn hiều
WOW what a match! Duong is definitely a banger (not that Ben doesn't put some away nicely) but Ben showed unmatched finesse with those spinning resets!
Who does duong keep looking at when he looses a point?
Dad on the sideline. They put a camera spot on him near the end of the he’s bald and a little fluffy but same complexion and eyes.
so why isn't this on PickleBall TV??????
It was live on pickleball tv yesterday. They upload these after the fact for people to rewatch
Quit lookin at your Dad all the time and play your game.
Ben has to get to his forehand more
Ben not getting paid to let Quang win anymore
still pronouncing duong incorrectly?
its not “DWONG”.
Con, Sir Ben!!
Where is Duane’s Asian gene in good touch and quick hand speed ? Looks like Ben got those instead
Sorry typo , Duong*
That 18:22 cut after Ben hits the ball lol
Stop saying his name wrong guys
The beaver is losing his crown
Quang's grunts are annoying af
Yes. Grunts are annoying in tennis and pickleball. Thanks for calling them grunts, not ‘tennis’ grunts. As the sport becomes more athletic, grunts will be more common.
quang, needs to get ALOT BETTER. QUANG NO COMPETITION. BEN NOT EVEN BREAKING SWEAT
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if ben is no.2, who is no 1?
"Quang has a long way to go to beat Ben" is an absolute stupid statement. Quang is only 18 and Ben started when he was roughly 24. Quang's mental game is not there yet but he'll get there quicker. Ben's edge is his mental game. He's a master of patience and consistency. But when Quang gets more experience (which will be sooner then later) he will dominate. Ben is still the number one player. But the sport is moving in Quang's favor. (unless of course, the governing league nerfs the rules to bring it back to a playground activity 😉)
Still can't say the kids name right.. 😢
Quang stop joking bro! Damn lol
Dương need more calm
guy is like the tiger woods of pickleball. absolutely icey cold
8:15 did i just hear you both say Ch*nk in the Armor? wow...
It’s a saying lol, like chainmail
QD dùng quá nhiều sức....
this is the least stimulating thing i have ever watched. down with pickle-ball
commentators pretty biased bs lol
yes ahahaha biased commentators
Ben Johns 🤣 how many wimbledon titles does he have?
Why are they trying to make this activity into something for people below 65 years old? There is a sport called tennis
😂
Because more people are casually playing pickleball, there is less need for athleticism so people who aren’t in pristine shape can play and compete pretty well, the learning curve isn’t as high (it’s easier to be competitive at a casual level in pickleball than in tennis), the courts are smaller so you can fit more in a given area thus more people can play concurrently, need I go on? Why don’t you ask yourself why you’re trying to prevent people from playing a fun casual sport?
Outlaw the grunts. So rude.
Absolutely agree! Hate the grunts
How are they rude? They do it in Tennis and Badminton and other sports. It's been proven that the grunting can lead to more power and keeps your core stable, keeps your breathing consistent. Just cause you don't like the sound, doesn't mean it's not valid or disrespectful
Don’t give pickle ball the reputation of being sensitive as fk to everything please
Remember that guy shouts every time if he wins a point in foreign language? If you people can’t stand grunts in professional sports and make it so politically, stay away from his match. Simple as that.
@@BlGSac
They tried to ban it in tennis, but didn't have the cajones to follow through. Forceful expelling of air does not need to result in a drawn out grunt. That came about in tennis very much as a borderline distraction, cover the ball-strike sound, tactic.
quang, needs to LOT BETTER. LOST TO BEN
Folks, Quang's "style" is where pickleball is headed. All paddle and racket sports evolve to quicker, stronger and athletic shots and players. You "dinkers" are going the way of the dinosaur. Sports history is against you. Adapt.
As Ben ages and his skills fade, he is going to transform into the biggest baby whiner in pro sports.
Duong not good enough
Number 1 in the world? How? If he hasnt even played tournaments outside of the US
SPOILER BLOCKER
Quang should be banned from any pickleball games. Why would he grunt? It's not tennis
Should boom boxes be banned from pickleball courts as well. This is not golf.
Ready for Ben Johns to be done… such a boring style, the new high energy players will take over soon!
Yeah, boring to be a Winner!
Nice!