How 9-Man Tottenham Lost and STILL Got a Standing Ovation.
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- Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2023
- In this video, James Allcott takes a look at the madness of Tottenham 1-4 Chelsea in the Premier League that saw two red cards and five disallowed goals before Nicholas Jackson scored a hat-trick and Cole Palmer.
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I can confirm that standing around trying to understand what the hell the officials were making decisions on was infuriating and is just everything wrong with what VAR has done to the game.
I wouldn’t mind it if it took longer but guaranteed correct decisions but it takes 5 mins per decision and they still get something wrong every week
@@Im_helplessI’d rather they get it wrong sometimes and the game keeps flowing
@@cartz.g ah yall complain about refrees missing calls with seconds being on var and being innacurate, but when they try too look at things that mightve been iffy to the eye, yall still complain, but then remove the var and let refrees make mistakes and yall would cry even more..........
Was fuming standing there not knowing
It was much better in the newcastle game because VAR basically didn't exist in that game, the chelsea/spurs game would've been very different but man was it entertaining for a neutral.
hearing my own name for the 3 goals against my own club absolutely fucking killed me.
i’m so sorry brother
😂
The worst hattrick I’ve seen in a minute
Awww poor spurs fan.. enjoy your Karma coffee a long with those tears.
@@cantthink3012it was like training
If you’re gonna lose 4-1 that’s one hell of a way to do it
@@user-tn8uu2cu8g sweet mate
any top 6 team and you would have lost much bigger. Chelsea is really bad.
what an amazing performance, i can 100% get over this being a loss, but the injury to van de ven is heartbreaking and i just hope it's not as bad as it looked. otherwise we will have to wait until january to get a replacement, and being without both him and romero for the next three games is going to be really painful. judging by how the rest of the team performed though who knows what we could do even with dier at the back
Van de ven's loss is massive. He is amazing. But I think Ange is a gem, he will figure a way to play without him. I won't be surprised to see a defensive midfielder or even Emerson-Royal covering for Van de ven
@@southafricasoccerstars i think royal will come on for udogie
We could see Ashley Phillips get a few games aswell, only 18 but all we've got as an actual CB
Dier can play CB mate. He was decent when they brought him on. @@legendraj5779
This is my Team!!!! It's like a boxer getting punches after punches and still stand up and not ready to give up!!!! I just love my team!!! COYS!!!!!!
wrong thread buddy@@user-tn8uu2cu8g
Won’t be great with Romero and Udogie suspended and Van de Ven and Maddison injured though
back to being a entertaining mid-table team 👍
What I found funny in the game is that Sterling found himself on the ground multiple times simulating contact, yet didn't get a booking. In fact, I can't recall another player since Bissouma got his 2nd yellow for simulation v Luton Town getting a yellow for diving. Sterling did so on at least 2 occasions and nothing.
Probably easy for the ref to miss, he had to keep tabs on the multiple spurs players doing mixed martial arts
Despite the result, I think I speak for all Tottenham fans when I say I’m 100% proud of this team. We showed unbelievable character after going down to 9 men and losing VDV and Maddison.
COYS 🔵
2 stupid red cards..... And you are proud?
@@garrusvakarian309he's talking about the 9 players on the pitch you dimwit
@@garrusvakarian309cant stop refs from rigging
@@garrusvakarian309I mean I'm fuming romero n udogie were stupid and got themselves sent off which was so unnecessary and the game could've went a different way had they stayed on and romero wasnt so reckless
This is why Tottenham are a bottom feeder club.
As a Tottenham fan I'm glad to hear your positive analysis of the way we played. According to PL pundits and 'expert' analysts Ange was wrong for still trying to score even with 9 man and should've instead just sat back, as if it's a guarantee to win. I mean just look at Liverpool vs us with 9 man played defense perfectly, but ended up losing in the last seconds of the game. Over the years we played defensive football which made every loss feel miserable, but yesterday despite the defeat, I'd take most of our fans are happy with the way we played that even in a 9-man scenario we kept playing positive football, everyone gave 100%, came close to scoring and really made Chelsea work for it.
Another thing that Tottenham always struggles with is the mentality and I think yesterday's performance will help our squad get over the loss and also the upcoming injury crisis, and especially could benefit the likes of Dier and Hojbjerg who will likely be the starters over the next few games with confidence
As a spurs supporter this was my favourite game of the season so far, had so much fun watching it and was not worried about the result the whole way through, this loss was more entertaining that any single match under Mourinho or Conte! And this was clearly how the crowd felt, unbelievable support for the players and the effort they put in!
This is insane cope😂
You are absolutely mental mate
@@itshurtt395what do you want from us “arguh!!! Screw the refs!! Oh woe is me!! Argh!!” What the fuck do you want? At the end of the day, we’re football fans, we’re here for watching football, to be entertained.
1000% agree but damn am i worried about VDV and madders
@@itshurtt395 you want us to cry? not gonna happen mate. we're immune to disappointement. we've experienced 6-1 newcastle, 4-3 liverpool, 3-1 arsenal, 4-2 man city, etc. you're nothing special. all we care about this season is top 4 so you can lie to yourself and say "oh we humbled spurs fans" all you want. like we've been saying since day 1, we're just here for the ride.
Sterling dived multiple times and got away with it. Why are some players punished for diving and some are not?
If you just saw on paper 9 mam spurs lose 4-1, you'd entirely accept how that is completely possible.
If you actually watched the game though, Chelsea can take no confidence from that result
They scored 4 but realistically they scored a penalty and then 3 from just knocking it into spurs half and jogging it into the net. I’m proud that we just did everything to try and win. Ridiculous game.
oh come on, i know spurs are the better team but chelsea where putting a good fight and got 2 goals ruled out before the penalty, which was well earned.
Sorry what rubbish are you saying mate all they get is confidence in that game in the end of the day once udogie made that tackle yous didn’t get a sniff really and we go away with the 3 points from supposedly the best team atm and we are awful so I think we’d be happy and learn from it absolute clown spurs being proud of that shows what a trophy less club yous are enjoy the Audi cup for more years cause you ain’t winning jack up the chels 💙💙💙
Even bent refs cant save them every game
@@benjaminmcleod624Chelsea was getting completely outclassed when Spurs had 11 men let’s be real
I think 2 things from this game really outline the turnaround at spurs this season. 1. even when we were 1-4 down with 9 men, our fans were singing for the team non stop, Chelsea fans nowhere to be heard, and a standing ovation with a rendition of I'm loving Big Ange afterwards just emphasised that. 2. When other teams have lost with VAR and Red cards and tight offsides etc. (e.g. liverpool, and *rsenal) their fans go mental all over social media about VAR being crap and all that stuff. I'm hardly seeing anything of the sort from spurs fans, because we are just proud of our team and cheering them on through everything. COYS
Well that is because Arsenal and Liverpool were robbed by VAR whilst Spurs deserved everything they got tonight. Honestly I don't get the praise that Spurs are getting. If any other team lost two players because of stupid tackles you would not hear it, but because it is Spurs it is now all of a sudden cool. Weird behaviour
to be honest as a chelsea fan the reason why they were quiet was simply because only till the second jackson goal no one had the belief that we would win, for 15 months, weve been in positions like this before and let it slip
spurs were great, if udogie doesnt put that challenge in on sterling, momentum doesn't change, spurs win that 4-0. ultimately i look at this game and think we were rightly playing against 9 men but lucky that we was because no way we were beating them without that advantage.
i do think this next few weeks are huge for you if you manage to pick up wins then your a great team with huge character but it could unravel with the injuries and suspensions
I’d say they were singing but we’re probably drowned out by a much larger amount of fans.
you ever think that maybe, just maybe, you couldn’t hear chelsea fans because a. you were in the home end surrounded by thousands and thousands of spurs fans and b. they are the away team?
It's almost like the refs were factually wrong and had to apology for the Liverpool and Arsenal games , unlike the Spurs game where they nearly had to issue an apology to Chelsea for not sending of Udogie and Romero earlier
Honestly, being in the ground for that first half was something else. I genuinely would not be surprised if more than half of the 45 minutes was taken up by var, and for almost all of them we just had no idea what was going on. Particularly the Caicedo goal ruled out, leading to romero off and a penalty. Only managed to work out the series of events and what actually happened by looking it up at half time.
Still, incredibly proud of the 9 still on the pitch - particularly Vicario who should've been MOTM despite conceding 4!
The half was 52 minutes but due to stopping they played roughly 23 minutes of actual football.
Spurs almost scored 3 goals at the end. It was a fantastic game. No regrets.
Looks like almost only counts when you are 9 men. Chelsea also should have scored more but since they were 11 men it matters less.
im no spurs fan but i loved their spirit after they went down to 9. they way they attacked the game, Son ran his legs off. thats going down in glory
No regrets, wit 9 man and conceding 4 goals 😂😂😂
@@mikem9309hope you happy going down in glory by losing 4-1 to chelsea
lol I'm happy being a newcastle fan actually so had not starting bias - if anything i would be better off with a spurs loss but i had to admire Spurs and their spirit in that game.@@itshurtt395
As a spurs fan, a disappointing loss was gonna happen sooner or later, and id rather it be a game like this than getting embarrassed by like sheffield or something. And im kind of relieved not to have the top of the table pressure any more, now we can kick on and have a run at top 4
agreed ..it took 2 red card and 2 injuries for spurs to lose a game...we could've won even with 10 men tbh mostly because how dogshit chelsea are...january couldn't come any sooner
Fair point
Once spurs went down to 9 men they had nothing to lose really but chelsea have got to be embarrassed somewhat with the fact that spurs could have scored twice even down to 9 men and got away with it with 2 very tight offsides. No idea what made udogie and romero lose thier heads like that apart from maybe the atmosphere and occasion. Had they just kept thier heads chelsea were in for a battering spurs had chelsea on strings for those first 15 minutes
They could have still gotten a draw, Chelsea have dogshit finishing
Why would we be embarrassed? Who decides to play a high line when they have 9 men? I saw about 5 spurs players on the halfway line all in a straight line, is that what you guys are applauding?
@@mmsjejrinside385 they certainly played better football even with 9 man , if that doesnt worry you i dont know what could worry you lol
@@mmsjejrinside385I agree. Absolutely pathetic and nothing to be proud of. Chelsea's equally pathetic finishing would've allowed spurs to still get something from this game if they simply stayed compact and deep.
yap
as the game went on, all I could think about was how pissed I'd be if I'd spent money to go to a game on a monday night and have to stand in the cold looking at a little screen from across a field all night while var checks every possible situation
Ange is to blame for this game, he misread Chelsea, playing against them with such high line is criminal. I haven't seen as many repetitive counter attacks in a single game as we saw from Chelsea, they deserved the win.
pure tactical naivety from Ange tbh
Two Chelsea fans here. What you’d expect, lol. ✅
Thank you for this take. Exactly how it felt watching it. I think what is most astounding is the the breaking the mould for going down a player - did it work? Almost, was great to watch yes.
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Yeah, you and the other Audi Cup loving droolers a.k.a Spurs fans love to jump on that as some type of defiance instead of seeing it as tactical stupidity.
Which it is.
You got spanked in a HOME game 🤷♂️ You Spurs fans are willing hostages to mediocrity. ☝️
Maybe we watched different games but I thought Sterling was afwul for the vast majority of the game today. Him not tracking back and leaving Colwill isolated was one of the main errors for the Spurs goal. When they went down to 9 men he was always mistiming his runs and getting caught offside, seemed desperate to dribble into traffic for no reason. If you want to talk about "Men amongst boys" Cole Palmer was that guy for Chelsea today, not Sterling
Couldnt agree more. Spot on
cole palmer was great
Sterling could have been booked twice for diving he was poor and frustrating
James always gasses english players.
Sterling dribbles into traffic because he can make it look like he’s being fouled and go for a dive.
His videos are always “we” not “I” so much respect and humility 👏👏
I was in the Chelsea away end and every goal you really can't fully celebrate in fear of it being ruled out. I should be going crazy at my chelsea scoring aganst Spurs but VAR has slightly muted the sensation. Then saying that without VAR we maybe lose that game, very tough one
5 disallowed goals in a game is crazy. I've never seen it before 😅
Celebrate bent refs
as a spurs fan i can only laugh
peak barclays football. ange counter pressing 11 men with 9 of his own. my fucking manager
im gay sorry
What frustrates me wasn't the loss, but the fact that we'd be without VDV and Romero for the coming weeks. Definitely need a HUGE january window.
tottenham is fucked, now on
.i am impressed how you guys are playing brave football at the end of season you guys will finish top 4 ❤❤
Udogie one game ban and Maddison potentially injured too
Too late by then for anything other than top 4.
Good analysis and measured. Excellent video.
An absolutely insane match! Although the score line would suggest otherwise, I still think Tottenham were the “better” side.
lol Chelsea were most certainly better. Although due to stupid tackles from Romero and Udogie.
their lack of discipline has to be held against them though, surely they played valiantly down 2 men but they put themselves in that situation. at the end of the day a 4-1 home loss to an average chelsea side is an awful result
@@Brazil520chelsea were terrible
there's no such thing as playing better and losing, the only objevtive is to score more goals than the opponent and any cosmetic superiorities are irrelevant
@@chesterbe76alright cheers Einstein how about you let us watch the game with our eyes
Yeah was great tactics leaving yourself wide open again against a side that can ONLY play effectively against that team. It was fun to watch because it was suicidal and against a team that could have been an eternal meme had they not found a way
Chelsea won 4-1 and still came out of the game looking like losers.
How is that possible?
I'll take the 3 points mate, they can put that "We played well with 9 men" trophy in their cabinet.
@@areebsiddiqui75810th placed team btw
2 red cards, suspension, injuries, 4 goals conceded..... But Chelsea are the losers?
@@areebsiddiqui758 congrats on 10th
Bent refs
as a neutral this game had my heart rate as high as that back line.
Spurs did bloody well with 9 men and nearly NEARLY held off for the point. Chelsea were playing for their dignity after the 75 min mark.
I don't support any club, I just watch football because i like the sport, and wow, this game was just madness. The first half was a war zone!
If goals reprersented effort then it should be 8-1 to spurs. Chelsea should have won by a solid 8 or 9 goals but Vicario came in clutch time after time. Absoloute unit.
I would rather have the VAR and eliminate any suspicion than go back to the old days with bad calls made left and right, but this came down to whether the players clipped their toe nails that morning.
chelsea only won because Spurs just ran out of juice 5 mins before the end. Thats it. And even THEN they almost got a goal back with 9 men.
Was a really exciting game. Spurs deserved more but yea, it is also their fault they only had 9 men.
@@user-tn8uu2cu8g 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
From what I could see, I think Tottenham's game plan was to play high and hope they can clear the through balls, which worked really well. Playing high puts the ball farther from their defense and if they win it back it also allows them to attack immediately, unlike winning it back at their goal where they would have to play out of a press with 2 less men.
The issue arose once Chelsea started playing on the wings and their fast wingers and wingbacks could get in behind on the wings where Vicario couldn't go out to clear the ball.
Once they get bypassed on the wing, the defenders are stuck running back to goal, making crosses very hard to defend against. At that point I think it would've made more sense to change to a deeper line.
I’ve never felt so proud having lost by 3 goals.
Frankly, it’s very weird.
Well with all of the injuries and suspensions for your next 3 games against Wolves, Villa, and City you may get to experience that feeling at least two more times this calendar year
@@mercurialblonde you say that and it’s facts.
I’m still feeling hella proud and bring them games on, we’ll be giving it a go
so am I, I feel euphoric almost
@@sebharrison973 let’s not forget:
“The game is about glory. It is about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom.”
Or glorious defeat, as today..
@@granvillekeen Hahaha this is peak Spurs right here - "The game isn't about results, it's about playing with style"
Actual big clubs don't talk about glorious defeat, they talk about the trophies they've won. You will get nowhere with this mentality, but something tells me Spurs love being nowhere too much.
Unfortunately couldn’t get a ticket, boy do I wish I had one.
But as a Chelsea fan watching with my dad, I questioned so many times sat at home!? I can’t imagine the fans in the stadium, I was unsure the whole passage of play would be void if there was an offside at the end, what a crazy game. Hats off to spurs and Ange for the way they played, I was in stitches when Nicolas Jackson shushed, Rashford’ed and SUUUII’ed for his hattrick goal. What a game of football😂
Just because we might secretly enjoy seeing our players rough up the opposition does not make the act itself ok😭 you can’t defend Romero, the red was fully deserved
Nah mate Enzo walked into his clearance after he got the ball
Chelsea fan admittedly but that's 100% a red card you can't follow through studs up into someone's shin like that in today's game even Carragher said it that's a red card 100/100 times nowadays
@charliebrett2432 you're talking shit
I don’t understand why they can’t give the MOTM to a player who looses. I’d say that every Spurs player on the pitch in the end deserved it more that all the Chelsea players. And Vicario OMG even Allison couldn’t do what he did today the running all over the pitch the sweeping was insane that pace from a keeper and those saves. If Jackson had any self respect left after that horrendous Siuu then he should give the award to VIC!
I don’t understand the people saying “Why didn’t Spurs sit deep?” It was a makeshift defense with 3 of our starting defenders out, and I can be certain these players haven’t had a single low block drill in months. The reason teams like Brentford look formidable in a deep block is because they train it, day in day out, for months. The scoreline wound’ve been just as bad had we gone deep.
I know we had 1 CB on the pitch it would never work if we parked the bus - unlike Liverpool who had 5 at the back with Matip, Gomez and VVD as CB wall.
We (Chelsea) are crap at scoring against low blocks. I think it would really have been different...
Nah bro you conceded goals from through and over balls. Wit a low block that ain't happen, they still pro footballers players they can Deffo make it work
Just found this channel after seeing you play Tenable. Great content!
Warra game. Props to Chelsea to get the W...as they should've because of the 9 men in the opposition. But...BUT...Warra fight from Tottenham. I'm a Liverpool fan and seeing this after our 9 man game against Spurs I just have to give them props for playing the way they did today. Even though it is an L on their record for the season and their unbeaten record comes to and end, I can't help but applaud. Also liked the Ange interview afterwards where he told the interviewer, and I'm paraphrasing here, "this is us. This is how we will play until I am not here anymore" Warra game of footie eh
Refs
Chelsea fans found their level.
Doing the suiiii against 9 men.
id rather have var overcheck decisions and get them right than them not stopping the game and getting it wrong
As a Spurs fan I'm upset at the loss but proud of our teams fighting spirit... everything that could of went wrong went wrong but the boys kept playing there game and kept trying ....we learn from this and move on plus this shows Ange where we really need to strengthen in January
back to being a entertaining mid-table team 👍 No one's asking questions about the team losing it? two reds, should have been more. Instead controlling the game against a mid-table team with horrible offensive records they trow it away
@@jo_magpie i understand your upset and i am with the loss too but saying we are back to a mid-table team is absolutely stupid we are 2nd and 1 point off top lol 😂😂😂 trust ange and the process we are 11 games in to a project .... So what do you want Conte or Jose back ???
i like how james keeps chuckling at every juncture lol, I don't think anyone expected a game like that
Honestly I think if spurs sat back and parked the bus they leave with a draw or a win. I understand what ange was thinking and honestly it’s not a bad idea but Chelsea weren’t actually that dangerous before imo. I don’t see Chelsea creating any clear chances if they didn’t play that high line
I am in agreement with this. Chelsea have lots of high speed players and it's shown they have a terrible record against low block teams. I understand what Ange wanted to do, and he said from the start this is what he was going to do, but in a situation of 9 men playing high line is such a high risk, low turnout reward tactic.
Spot on. It's funny how Chelsea actually drew against Liverpool and arsenal before this game too. Chelsea have a poor attack so can't break down defensive teams. The 50-50 games when teams come at them actually work in their favour. If spurs sit back then there's no way Chelsea win this game.
Nah not without our 2 first choice centre backs, they'd move hojberg around and eventually he'd break the deep line. What they did was compress the space to play in, and use vicario as basically an outfield player to even the numbers game. It also forced Chelsea to rush their through ball and it took them nearly the entire game to figure out how to beat the trap.
It’s not about the this game though. Right now it’s about changing the mentality of a club. And you don’t do that with any half measures. You go all in. ALL. IN. Proud of the way handled this.
@@jakemaddocks435 I get what you’re saying but I disagree. Could have played a low block with dier and hojberg/skipp/Davies , I get they’re not first choice but dier is ok and even with the others faults i think they would have been ok at heading the ball and smashing it 60 yrds away. The first half Chelsea showed their only threat was in behind and clearly they couldn’t do that very well given there were 100 offsides calls. And honestly I don’t really see it taking them so long to score as Ange’s plan being successful either. I think he played into Chelsea’s hands. It feels like he gave them 10 free raffle tickets, they were bound to get a winning ticket at least once even if its by luck and that’s what happened
Using that high line against any of the other top four teams would have seen them pummeled. It just so happeend they were playing against one of the most confidence devoid, inexperienced teams in the league. Allowing that amount of space for doku, salah, rashford, saka or martinelli, literally anyone one else with an ounce of patience, who can hold their run, would have caused carnage.
This could be the best thing to have happened to Spurs.Get the injuries back and take the suspensions on the chin.January transfer window.....In need of another CB...DM...Number 8...Big Ange....outstanding....From a Rangers and Liverpool fan living in Melbourne.He transformed Celtic and I think the big Man will and is transforming Spurs
Mate..
Daniel Levy exists😂😂😂
On the Caicedo disallowed goal, it’s not that Jackson was obstructing Vicario’s view as such, but more that Vicario doesn’t know if Jackson is going to change the direction of the ball if it hits him or he makes a play to control or re-direct it that the offside is given for the offside player. Quite a few people saying he wasn’t in the goalies line of sight and forgetting that it’s not the only factor they take into consideration on those moments
I couldn’t believe what I was watching! Those players who stayed on the pitch did us fans so proud!
Everyone commending spurs but don’t realise Ange’s tactics were awful. Playing that high line gave Chelsea the best chance of scoring.. Lack of clinical finishing and decision making meant they made a meal of it, but if Ange told his players to sit in and force Chelsea to break them down and play on the counter, they’d have a much better chance.
We’ve seen all season that Chelsea are much better against teams with a high line and are awful against teams who dig in with every player behind the ball. Stupid stupid tactics..
pretty much spot on with everything here jim.
I think Udogie first 'red' wasn't actually a tackle. I think he was going for an interception.
Would have been an easy win for Spurs with 11v11 how can Chelsea be that bad after spending 1 billion.
So James' logic is VAR was wrong in giving a (well-deserved) red card for Udogie and Romero because it would have been 'more fun' with 11 players on the pitch. Sometimes this guy baffles me.
Bro your video quality is just amazing wtf
We lost and yet, we won. What a match, COYS❤❤❤❤
The most insane fact is that Nico Jackson managed to score 3 times
Spurs were very naive tbh.. too emotional of a team. But again the refereeing was atrocious, inconsistent with the red card calls, horrible decisions with var, wow what a state the PGMOL are in. They have to copy the champions league refereeing, they have shown themselves incapable of setting their own rules and sticking to them
Thats ANGEBALL in all the glory ...keep on giving BIG BOSS
Something thay just occured me, i'd have to double check but did the linesman get all the calls right BEFORE VAR double checked? If so that is pretty wild given how close they were
Have to disagree Jim
Spurs were the better team in the first 10 minutes but for some reason lost their heads. Resulting in some horrible misjudged tackles that were all well deserving of bookings
vast majority of the problem with the quickness of VAR is not having the automated offsides from the world cup. having that would cut a lot of time out of the reviews. having incompetent officials draw the lines leads to incorrect decisions and time wasted. to the opinion that var takes away from the beauty and initial reactions to the goals. id rather goals be given or taken away correctly than having a slightly more euphoric reaction just imo
Thank you. You said it better than I did in a previous post in this comment section. Spot on.
The same people who complain about muted celebrations are the ones who cried loudest when refs horribly botched calls before VAR.
Semi automated offsides would solve a majority of these issues.
I don't know why people giving Tottenham so much credit, they lost two players and conceded 4 goals, that's what they couldn't do to Liverpool
They conceded 2 and ran out of gas if it goes level the other two goals don’t go in
Tottenham lost, but until the very last minute when they couldn't keep going. They deserved a better result. Also props to Chelsea for getting out of 12th place and making it all the way to 10th
Bent refs
Completely agree with your comments on Sterling, there is a lack of football intelligence in this team and he is the only attacker who seemed to understand that high line and how to exploit it, shocking from our other attackers really.
Not sure I can get onboard with not sending off Romero for kicking out at Colwill and by proxy the challenge that actually got him sent off. Regardless of the lack of force (re: challenge on Colwill) and the high pressure moment (re: the challenge on Fernandez), if you don’t punish those moments then you set a very bad precedent moving forward.
Yeah the kick on Colwill isn’t hard and yeah Colwill makes the most of it, but why are we determining violent conduct based upon the force applied? It’s unneeded in the game and the justification of “yeah but he loves to hurt people it’s just what he does” is a bridge too far for me.
Same thing with the Udogie yellow. If he catches any more of the player it absolutely pulverizes his leg. In that moment Udogie is completely out of control. It doesn’t - at least, it shouldn’t - matter if he catches him or not. It’s dangerous.
Bent refs
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS
we cannot set a precedent where the degree of violence is determined by the force applied by the aggressor
so if I tried to punch someone and he dodged the hit, I shouldn't be sent off in a match? 😭
great point on Udogie too, why is he punished less severely because of the other player's instinct to protect his own body?
should Sterling have allowed Udogie to break his legs for the same tackle to be considered a red? ridiculous!! two foot = textbook red
And Reece James lining a player up and flinging an elbow into his face with accuracy and force should of been a straight red and a 3 match ban but you aren’t wining about that. Shocking refereeing
Sterling dived twice not sure about his professionalism and his vision was poor today
I don't want to wait for the JAFFN on this match!!!!
Great video James! Heck of a game and efforts from Spurs, just a bit too undisciplined to win this one.
Mate 100%. Felt like we got to watch 20minutes of football and the rest was waiting for VAR or chelsea judt lumping it out of play, can imagine it was great to watch on TV but in the stadium it was excruciating
This is the game of the season right here...
Although a neutral i wnated so bad for Spurs to win bc it'd have been hilarious for a team to loat to their rivals after they are down to 9 men
The Son-goal was given offside straight away, so VAR didn’t change anything.
Even before this game descended into madness, it wasn't a great game to start. It was more what I expect in League One or League Two. Saw some better performances from non-League clubs in the FA cup ties this weekend.
Ben Davies, Micky van de Ven, Ryan Sessegnon injured.
Cristian Romero, Destiny Udogie suspended.
We're fucked for the next 1-2 months defensively.
Imo the game was awesome. If we are going to introduce var to get the right decision then I would love to watch 150 minute games as long as we get the right decision. Ultimately it’s purpose it to get it right. People always complain. When they rush it, and get it wrong we shout how did it happen. Tonight they got very decision right now the complaint is how long it’s taking. Football fans are annoying at times, you can’t have both. If Var is here to stay we have to deal with the extended amount of time for decisions as long as they get to the right decision
VAR needs to go. 15m of that shit. Horrible. Regardless of result or outcome.
Nicolas Jackson might be the worst finisher to ever score a Hattrick in premier league history
Sterling must have also hated standing around, that's why he was diving on the ground so much
I also follow rugby union. In union, when they go to VAR, they put the ref and VAR staff on the full mic in the stadium and show the whole stadium the same thing that VAR is looking at. You can hear and see the discussion. It's fantastic as you can see what they're looking at and you know why they're making the decisions they're making (even if you don't agree with them). I just don't understand why the PL can't do the same. Are they scared?
Spurs lost but they lost by attacking and fighting. Never stopped. To lose both CB and playmaker all before half time. Then go down to 9 men soon after the second half. Players playing out of position. Yet still attacking and pressing. They didn't give up.
what a thriller
The siu with the absolute shittest hattrick ever produced was comical 👏
I think Ange got it totally wrong. Chelsea have struggled to beat low blocks this season so he plays a high line with 9 men, with their fastest defender going off injured?
I get it - super reasonable take. No way Ange does that 😂. Followed him for years. In his mind - "I'd rather lose 4-1 with a chance to win or draw - then sit back for 30 minutes and lose 2-1"
That's called a hipster's mentality. You can win stuff in a farmers league doing that but taking that approach in a serious league? No chance!@@sarab89hj
Wrong - they went for the win at 1-1 that’s the difference between winners and snoozers
People upset with Ange are completely missing the point that with such a make-shift defense you're gonna struggle to successfully park the bus for an entire half 11 v 11..... Let alone 9 v 11. It was a gamble; yes; but it nearly paid off if not for the finest of off-side margins and if Dier's goal had stood, I wouldn't have written off the possibility of Spurs sneaking a 3-2 win.
That’s Ange’s system’s perfect to a tee, my only question mark was taking Johnson off who I thought looked the most dangerous & threatening of any player.
Spurs put up a good fight, but a standing ovation is ridiculous icl. Arsenal were getting mocked for celebrating late winners last season
I think with VAR offsides it should be within a certain margin before they get involved, should be the on field decision unless the offside surpasses X amount, “clear and obvious” if you will.
Should be less involvement by VAR this way, I don’t think it’s for the good of the game having everything measured this closely. It’s killing the game imo.
I agree with the Romero one just don’t get how he’s supposed to stop himself,either that or he lets the player have a free shot
It’s different than the other refs as he hasn’t left is feet in a slide tackles it’s the follow through of a clearance. I’m not sure what he can do there after king that ball
I think Romero had 2 yellows that game, instead of "2" reds. Udogie had 2 yellows which was fair. The offside that got Romero sent off was odd and the goal should of stood. So proud of the boys that came on and the oens that stayed on the pitch, sadly with those injuries and red cards have made top 4 very difficult for us now. + Bissouma needs 1 yellow to have a match ban aswell. In 45 mins our season did the biggest u-turn in football history. Just hoping the knocks on Vicario and Porro will be suttle and able to start them against Wolves
As a Chelsea fan my phone wallpaper is and will be all season big Nic hitting the SUIIIIII
It’s been about 13 hours I think I’m ready to actually accept this game happened
Everything came in 2's for us. 2 Reds, 2 Injuries, 2 disallowed goals, 2 Knocks on Vicario and Porro.
VAR bias in favour of spurs is unbelievable even with the two sending offs, the result is karma for how the Liverpool game was badly officiated.
Chelsea were so poor with scrappy goals against 9 men after all that money spent.
VAR has destroyed the game. Shocking calls by the faceless officials.
For Spurs, this is a throw away game. Not much to take away for film sessions. Going to be interesting to see how they deal with no VDV and Romero.
Curious how getting praised for playing their style is the narrative rather than losing their discipline and throwing away a lead…
Bent refs
Same reason I can't agree with James take here. He''s arguing that an intriguing narrative is better to have than a safe and fair game.
Felt like a tacit endorsement of cheating and dirty play because it's fun.
These lot did same with bielsa he got Leeds relegated after that
I think my viewpoint on it is that if spurs were leading, then the low block would've been on. Since it was a draw at the time, it was a high line, and spurs did create 3 chances. Maybe could've gone low block and counter since it was chelsea but angeball is angeball.
Bent refs
Tottenham went out on their shields… they won that game from start to finish in their performance. It’s one of those performances that’s a lower case w for Chelsea and a lower case l for Tottenham. If only if it was 11 v 11 for the who game without VAR.
Is it me or was the volume tuned down in this video? Had to crank up the audio to almost 100 to be audible 😅
I loved the Siuuu.
A high line was the correct decision but i wish they did it a bit further towards there own goal so that Vicario has a better chance of sweeping. Also the 3 midfielders should have tried to pressure the man on the ball a bit more. But i get they had 9 men so must have been shattered. I think Spurs played brilliantly before the sending off and showed so much commitment to the cause after the 2 reds and injuries.
Bro, no chance. 9 men with highline is recipe for disaster actually. Sterling completely ripped that highline apart actually final minutes. Those 3 goals from Chelsea coming from the Spurs highline actually. This is concerning for Spurs moving forward. In this game's magnitude, u cannot make stupid tackle like the Udogie's and Romero's
Cracking match regardless. Respect to Ange for not crying like Arteta or Klopp afterwards.
If you have to lose, beat to lose fighting.
They should have swapped to a low block eventually. Spent time making Chelsea switch between attacking both defenses
You guys are talking about the game as if Chelsea wasn't any good. But the fact is, even when before they played with 10 men, the score was 1-1. And after the first 15 minutes, we were the better team throughout the game. I can't deny that they have great spirit and play well too.
Nearly missed the last trains out of london because of how long the game was due to VAR