I was super excited to find this clip. I thought I'd have to give up cornet playing! My double buzzing mainly happens on middle C, but when I get tired other notes can become affected. This is the only practical online help I could find. I love the simple explanation and practical exercises. Fingers crossed this works for me ! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us :)
I am having this issue right now. I play for about 3 years and never had before. Im struggling for about 3 days and didnt know even the term to describe it but Ive found now. Thanks for the video, hope I can fix this.
Been playing for 6 years and this started happening. So I finally decided to research this phenomenon and found u. Thanks for the help, though for me the problem was happening because I was looseining my tone too much for a good sound.
The "background music" is very distracting and makes it difficult to focus when you are speaking. Other than that, your presentation is very good. Would appreciate more help on lip bending. Thank you.
I recognize Stewart Dempster's embouchure clip at 1:15, taken from Lloyd Leno's film, "Lip Vibration of Trombone Embouchures" (available in full on my RUclips channel). Dr. Leno's widow gave me permission to post it on RUclips and was mostly concerned with making it available for folks, so I'm sure she wouldn't mind that you use it. I did want to cite that clip for folks who might want to know where it's from.
I've been trying your exercises for about a month with very little improvement. I still get air leaking from the left side of my mouth. After college I served 6 years in the Army band and then put the trombone away for 28 years. When I picked it up again 7 years ago I found that my embouchure changed a lot however, in time my chops felt good. I started double buzzing a few months ago on middle Bb. I play in a community orchestra and band and I am concerned when will the double buzzing occur. Do you have any other recommendations? Thank you!
Thank you so much, I was very stressed out over learning tuba, it was extremely hard to stop double buzzing. This video helped out tremendously, allowing me to know what I need to stop this problem. Again, thank you very much.
Why does double buzzing occur mainly on middle C ,concert Bb, is it because of an inherent frequency reverberation of a Bb instrument? It plagues my playing, but I can 4overcome it by using the fourth valve and the 1st on my Euphonium which is slightly flat but infinitely better than awful noise my lips make on open C
Thank you for the good quality instructional insights. But I am convinced that the mouth piece moves up and down for various ranges while playing. Watch your self and you will see the mouthpiece moving up and down. We do that as easily as we adjust for intonation. The most common reason for double buzzing is that chops are not well conditioned. Lack of practice produces double buzzing.
In terms of moving, I agree. It always does. The problem is the excessive movement in addition to too much pressure and in terms of lack of practice, my personal experience is pretty much opposite. I see it as a much more common problem with people who over practice. That being said, I see where are you coming from and I appreciate you insight David! Best, A
Another Great Video. Could you tell me how much time you would spend on each of your 3 remedial exercises in say a 1.5 hour practice session and also although I can lip bend my sound when doing this does not sound very good and although this might not be an issue I was hoping that you could explain how you physically achieve your note bends (maybe in a supplement video) My recent double buzz is on top Bb. Im ok below this and ok above this (treble clef)
Thanks buddy! In terms of how long, well, I just start playing the exercise and do the pattern chromatically downwards to my lowest finger combination, don't really track time. Just start an exercise, move to another one, than the third one and focus on completing the exercise well, rather than completing within certain time limit. I only track my time if I know I have a limited amount of time I can afford to practice. Let's say I will practice for two hours, so that means my warm up and basics will probably no longer than 30minutes so I have enough time to play my pieces. In those 30min I make sure I fit in something to work my breathing, than embouchure, fingers and tongue. If I have more time, I will extend one of those categories by throwing in more exercises or more volume/time on a specific exercise. It's all about planning, structuring and attacking your week points in an efficient way which makes you progress real fast. In terms of lip bending, that could actually be a good topic for upcoming vids, thanks for suggesting buddy!
I'm suffering from this after 10 years playing the French horn, and just when I thought my playing was getting a lot better and I was able to feel more relaxed while playing. The French horn mouthpiece is so small I wouldn't have thought there was much scope to misplace it, but I'll give your exercises a go, as it's really affecting my ability to play certain passages with any volume. Double buzzing a horn solo in Jurassic Park is not a good sound!
I have just recently started playing. Do you think the weakness in my facial muscles is making a double buzz??? I hope this is reduced in the next month or so.
Yes, I think so. But don’t worry; I also struggle with this too (a lot)! All I think is to try to keep my lips and facial muscles firm, my chin flat, and my air steady and controlled. That usually helps me get rid of my double buzz instantly. So how are you doing now?
For me I get double buzz when I put my aperature in the middle. Specifically on a f on the top of the staff(treble). It actually goes away if I put my lips on the bottom on the mouthpiece where it's basically just the top lip vibrating. I played around with and as soon as bottom lip gets in there double buzz
Do you know why it’s happening on my home one? I have a trombone at home I don’t use often because I use the one I have at school but at school my sound is always good.
I've been working on the "they gay" method but it's still pretty difficult and taking a long time. I wasn't sure if there was anything a little quicker-?
@@addiehughes8179 I also recommend adding it to your warm up routine. Putting it with scales and Remington exercises is a great way to learn how to. It's how I learned to double tongue as well.
Double buzzing it's a contemporary technique used and invented by the Italian composer Luigi Nono. To do it is necessary to keep the vibration between two sounds of the harmonic series. The lips will divide and play two different sounds at the same time. The result is similar to the multiphonics but without voice. Your exercise definitely not for double buzzing and also the intonation during the octave intervals is very out of tune. The pedal tone is always to sharp.
No they are not the same euphonium is more conical baritone is more cylindrical both however can be 3/4 valve and have the same range so if you heard that it is wrong also both can read in Bass or treble clef
Now I know, why that double buzzing happens. Some days it happens loads, others I sound good. So practice and exercises. No shortcuts. Thankyou.
I was super excited to find this clip. I thought I'd have to give up cornet playing! My double buzzing mainly happens on middle C, but when I get tired other notes can become affected.
This is the only practical online help I could find. I love the simple explanation and practical exercises. Fingers crossed this works for me ! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us :)
I am having this issue right now. I play for about 3 years and never had before. Im struggling for about 3 days and didnt know even the term to describe it but Ive found now. Thanks for the video, hope I can fix this.
Been playing for 6 years and this started happening. So I finally decided to research this phenomenon and found u. Thanks for the help, though for me the problem was happening because I was looseining my tone too much for a good sound.
The "background music" is very distracting and makes it difficult to focus when you are speaking. Other than that, your presentation is very good. Would appreciate more help on lip bending. Thank you.
No
I recognize Stewart Dempster's embouchure clip at 1:15, taken from Lloyd Leno's film, "Lip Vibration of Trombone Embouchures" (available in full on my RUclips channel). Dr. Leno's widow gave me permission to post it on RUclips and was mostly concerned with making it available for folks, so I'm sure she wouldn't mind that you use it. I did want to cite that clip for folks who might want to know where it's from.
pretty nice in helping out new guys in brass, I'll use this to help my brother, this is also not a topic covered too much
I double buzz on my mid range b flat but nothing else
oh gosh... Thanks a lot.. Now I FINALLY know why I was suffering with double buzzing after changing to euphonium
Thank you. You have addressed recent issues that have come up for me. I now know how to fix all three points. 😀
I've been trying your exercises for about a month with very little improvement. I still get air leaking from the left side of my mouth. After college I served 6 years in the Army band and then put the trombone away for 28 years. When I picked it up again 7 years ago I found that my embouchure changed a lot however, in time my chops felt good. I started double buzzing a few months ago on middle Bb. I play in a community orchestra and band and I am concerned when will the double buzzing occur. Do you have any other recommendations? Thank you!
I'm so salty these videos came out AFTER I left school. They would've been so helpful when I was struggling with double buzzing for 2 years :(((
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how could you overcome it? I am one year and I cannot find the reason for my double buzz
Thank you so much, I was very stressed out over learning tuba, it was extremely hard to stop double buzzing. This video helped out tremendously, allowing me to know what I need to stop this problem. Again, thank you very much.
Why does double buzzing occur mainly on middle C ,concert Bb, is it because of an inherent frequency reverberation of a Bb instrument? It plagues my playing, but I can 4overcome it by using the fourth valve and the 1st on my Euphonium which is slightly flat but infinitely better than awful noise my lips make on open C
Helpful video, thanks! Gotta do more work on my techno remix transcriptions too
I'm having a huge problem double buzzing right now this was helpful
Thank you for the good quality instructional insights. But I am convinced that the mouth piece moves up and down for various ranges while playing. Watch your self and you will see the mouthpiece moving up and down. We do that as easily as we adjust for intonation. The most common reason for double buzzing is that chops are not well conditioned. Lack of practice produces double buzzing.
In terms of moving, I agree. It always does. The problem is the excessive movement in addition to too much pressure and in terms of lack of practice, my personal experience is pretty much opposite. I see it as a much more common problem with people who over practice. That being said, I see where are you coming from and I appreciate you insight David! Best, A
Video quality always going up!
Hey man, appreciate it! I put a lot of time in these ;) Glad you're liking it!
buen maestro
great job. thanks!!!!
Matonizz : here's how to fix your double buzzing!
james morrison : hold my mouthpiece
James be like:
Don't fix it if it aint broken
Super helpful, subscribed :)
Thanks a lot, glad you liked it!
I have a particular mouthpiece which causes double buzzing, in the octave above concert middle C.
Another Great Video. Could you tell me how much time you would spend on each of your 3 remedial exercises in say a 1.5 hour practice session and also although I can lip bend my sound when doing this does not sound very good and although this might not be an issue I was hoping that you could explain how you physically achieve your note bends (maybe in a supplement video) My recent double buzz is on top Bb. Im ok below this and ok above this (treble clef)
Thanks buddy! In terms of how long, well, I just start playing the exercise and do the pattern chromatically downwards to my lowest finger combination, don't really track time. Just start an exercise, move to another one, than the third one and focus on completing the exercise well, rather than completing within certain time limit. I only track my time if I know I have a limited amount of time I can afford to practice. Let's say I will practice for two hours, so that means my warm up and basics will probably no longer than 30minutes so I have enough time to play my pieces. In those 30min I make sure I fit in something to work my breathing, than embouchure, fingers and tongue. If I have more time, I will extend one of those categories by throwing in more exercises or more volume/time on a specific exercise. It's all about planning, structuring and attacking your week points in an efficient way which makes you progress real fast. In terms of lip bending, that could actually be a good topic for upcoming vids, thanks for suggesting buddy!
I'm suffering from this after 10 years playing the French horn, and just when I thought my playing was getting a lot better and I was able to feel more relaxed while playing. The French horn mouthpiece is so small I wouldn't have thought there was much scope to misplace it, but I'll give your exercises a go, as it's really affecting my ability to play certain passages with any volume. Double buzzing a horn solo in Jurassic Park is not a good sound!
I'm having this problem at 14 too.
Great as usual.
Thanks Maureen!
I have just recently started playing. Do you think the weakness in my facial muscles is making a double buzz??? I hope this is reduced in the next month or so.
So how are you going now? Is that help you improved?
Yes, I think so. But don’t worry; I also struggle with this too (a lot)! All I think is to try to keep my lips and facial muscles firm, my chin flat, and my air steady and controlled. That usually helps me get rid of my double buzz instantly. So how are you doing now?
Great Video.
Thanks man!
For me I get double buzz when I put my aperature in the middle. Specifically on a f on the top of the staff(treble). It actually goes away if I put my lips on the bottom on the mouthpiece where it's basically just the top lip vibrating. I played around with and as soon as bottom lip gets in there double buzz
You are Amazing!
Do you know why it’s happening on my home one? I have a trombone at home I don’t use often because I use the one I have at school but at school my sound is always good.
Another reason is that the spit valve may be stuck partially open.
Podrían ponerle subtitulo en español??
Puedes aser el video en castellano?
I'm coming from clarinet/ bass clarinet to a baritone. I'm really struggling with double tongue, does anyone have any tips to help?
I've been working on the "they gay" method but it's still pretty difficult and taking a long time. I wasn't sure if there was anything a little quicker-?
@@addiehughes8179 I know this comment is 1 year old, but try "tu ku"
Xychrozist Hey I appreciate any help, and I’ll definitely try it, thank you!
@@addiehughes8179 I also recommend adding it to your warm up routine. Putting it with scales and Remington exercises is a great way to learn how to. It's how I learned to double tongue as well.
Except our lips don't buzz when we play. Just try removing the trombone as you play a note: just the sound of air.
Double buzzing it's a contemporary technique used and invented by the Italian composer Luigi Nono. To do it is necessary to keep the vibration between two sounds of the harmonic series. The lips will divide and play two different sounds at the same time. The result is similar to the multiphonics but without voice. Your exercise definitely not for double buzzing and also the intonation during the octave intervals is very out of tune. The pedal tone is always to sharp.
The description says Euphonium, but that’s a Baritone.
that is a euphonium
Christian Carter it still the same
No they are not the same euphonium is more conical baritone is more cylindrical both however can be 3/4 valve and have the same range so if you heard that it is wrong also both can read in Bass or treble clef
Christian Carter what makes you think he doesn't know what his own instrument is called?
Delete this
and that stupid intro made me go find another video...
This music is absolutely horrendous.. almost as bad as dubstep.