Guenther Steiner Has To Go
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- 🏎️ Is It Time for a Change at Haas F1? 🏁
Welcome to our thrilling Formula 1 discussion! In this captivating video, we embark on a journey through the world of high-speed racing, focusing on one of the sport's most intriguing teams, Haas F1.
First, we rewind to Haas' early days in Formula 1, back in 2014, when they made a splash with their cost-effective approach. Learn how they managed to keep their startup costs astonishingly low, often relying on personnel and resources from other failed F1 bids. It was a softly-softly approach that paid off, earning them respect in the paddock.
But as the years went by, things began to change. We delve into the shift in focus that occurred after the team's remarkable 2018 season, where they not only earned fifth place in the Constructors' Championship but also attracted attention from sponsors seeking naming rights. Discover how this shift affected Haas' identity and performance.
As we dig deeper, we also examine the controversies that have plagued Haas, particularly their association with sponsors like Rich Energy. These controversies have raised questions about the team's image and its impact on their performance on the track.
The heart of the discussion centers around the growing calls for change within the Haas team. With voices suggesting that a new team principal might be necessary to break free from a cycle of repetitive seasons, we analyze the pros and cons of retaining Guenther Steiner as the team's leader.
Whether you're a seasoned Formula 1 enthusiast or just dipping your toes into the world of motorsports, this video promises an engaging and thought-provoking exploration of the Haas F1 team's journey. Join us as we navigate the twists and turns of Formula 1, unraveling the controversies and pondering the future. Don't miss out on this riveting discussion that's making waves in the F1 community. Hit that play button now, and let's rev up the conversation! 🚗💨
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In the world of Formula 1 (F1), the Haas F1 Team has been a topic of discussion, with Guenther Steiner at the helm. As we approach the F1 2024 season and look ahead to F1 2024 predictions, many fans and F1 content creators are speculating about the team's performance. Haas F1 has faced its fair share of challenges and is often mentioned in discussions about the worst F1 teams. But it's not all serious in the F1 world; Guenther Steiner's funny moments, as seen on 'Drive to Survive,' provide some lighthearted entertainment but is that enough to sustain the team going forward? If you're an F1 enthusiast or an F1 RUclipsr looking for the latest F1 news and updates, this dynamic and ever-evolving motor sport guarantees excitement both on and off the track.
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Nico is a very solid upper midfield driver and is in the top 20 all time point scorers in F1. I expect he will be a driver for Audi in 2026. The desire for a proven German driver is strong. And I do not think it will be Mick.
Im glad you've brought it up. Everyone loves gunther because hes the funny shouty man but if we're honest what has he actually achieved in all that time at haas?
I think that Drive to Survive saved his career, combined with 2020's umm...issues.
The only achievement I see him having is setting the Williams on fire after it got a podium😂
Think about what hes had to contend with though......Rich Energy, Mazepin and Mazespin, Russians being banned from everything, losing his title sponsor money.....twice. 2023 was the first year they had any sort of drama-free racing. I dont think its fair to say hes a bad principle just yet. I think give him 1 more season to make any progress and then we can start asking questions, but its a bit too soon given all the BS hes dealt with. Im surprised he hasnt Fok Smashed himself out of F1 by now.
@@Amm17arall the problems you listed were his decision in the first place 😂
@@jacobmassey3897 Ah yeah, he definitely knew Russia was going to invade Ukraine. And if you know anything about the Rich energy BS. Youd know they were frauding a lot more people than just Haas. They did their due dilligence faking everything to get something like a F1 sponsorship..... He definitely should have done more to make sure, but they werent both his fault...
Gene needs to sell the team too. He clearly does not care about trying to be competitive which is a shame and shouldn’t be allowed in F1.
I get what you're saying but I reckon he's waiting for the right buyer and the right time for an optimal return on investment. F1 is still pretty popular and has further room to grow. Also, he would rather see the team perish than get into the clutches of Michael Andretti after the last few years.
@@LawVSAgreed, Andretti seems super arrogant. Definitely don't want a loud mouth American in F1
It can be argued that having paid drivers, or like Lance Stroll who consistently underperform is demonstrating a lack of trying to be competitive and then also shouldn’t be allowed in F1 too. It doesn’t really vibe with being said to be the “pinnacle of Motorsport”. Some of these teams should make some changes.
I remember hearing somewhere that Gene has admitted that, he has no desire to improve the performance of the car, saying that his advertising of his company is good the way it is with just his name on the car, should sell to someone who gives a rats.
@spawnofapathy Well the thing is almost every driver is a pay driver, Historic greats like Lauda, Fernando, Alonso had to put their money or someone elses money to race!
I feel like Guenther is not the only problem with HAAS
Gene is way too comfortable with haas being a backmarker team, he just lacks the desire to win or achieve any kind of success in f1
The board members are also too comfortable with its position
They need to put on some more pressure on gene to make the team perform better
Indeed. Multiple factors but the TP is a major figurehead in the whole widget still.
It's the same thing in nascar, Gene is too comfy not being competitive.
As an American, I have little love for the Haas team.
You’re right in that we generally love winners, but we also have a love for the underdog (a part of why I’m such a huge Checo fan).
Haas doesnt qualify as either, nor do they present themselves as overtly American. Williams looked more American than Haas this year.
At most, Haas is an Italian-American team
I feel like there are more American William's fans than there are American Haas fans. Which tells a lot about how they have managed to fail so badly.
Logan Sargaent is our American underdog story, and Williams has a way better chance of having a good performance. I can’t wait to see what they can do in the upcoming season.
That's a fair point. Underdogs and winners are seen as being worth supporting. Haas are just...there.
There's underdog then there's delusional haha
And now Guenther has left. Prediction at its finest.
I mostly feel bad for what happened with Schumacher's career at Haas. I reckon he needed more time in F1 to really grow. His first season in 2021 you can largely throw away, there was no point in pushing that car to its absolute limit when they were competing with nobody and I doubt the team were pushing him hard to do so either, they'd rather have fewer crashes and let him drive it at 96%. And his teammate didn't push him either, there were so many races where Mick came close to lapping Mazepin just with both in clear air aside from blue flags. Then 2022 came, Mazepin got kicked out, they started with a decently competitive car and Schumacher suddenly had to frive in F1 to the limit again. 2022 was basically his rookie season. He had quite a couple of crashes, but on pace he was quite competitive with Magnussen, just needed more experience.
Agreed. Guenther condemned Mick to purgatory...but I guess him going was for the best as Mick has had time with Hamilton to learn as well as get Alpine on side.
Finally someone said what I’ve been thinking I’d say same for yuki but only difference was they didn’t make his 2022 season a make or break for him rather the 2023 which should have been what haas did especially when your a rookie and told that next season you’re gonna need to learn how to drive a whole different car, in terms of regulations, to the car you started out in.
I think Drive to Survive allowed him to stay longer but I agree that it’s time for a change
Definitely.
When he kept Grosjean on after 2019, I began to doubt his decision making as team principal among other questionable decisions. Like the guy but it’s time for a shake up
It's a fair point. I imagine that Haas probably didn't want to rock the boat with the lineup as a consistent lineup would be more productive in terms of upgrades...but that was their party line for years though.
Grosjean…the French Maldonado.
@@The_ZeroLine Except Maldonado actually won a GP.
Surprisingly, I've seen this exact thing being said relatively commonly. Heck, it was like one of the first things my dad told me when I got him into F1, and he saw Haas' lack of progress.
A very perceptive fellow then!
Haas is not a racing team. Gene Haas has a single objective, to be a title sponsor without paying a cent for it. Once you accept this, it will all be clear. As long as the prize money equals or exceeds the expenditure, Gene is happy. Guenther Steiner is doing everything Gene Haas is asking of him and that includes pretending to be a racing team.
I suppose. It's a billboard for the CNC company.
It feels like the Team Principal equivalent of the Daniel Ricciardo situation at Mclaren last year, sure he's a funny meme-able guy but the team needs results at the end of the day.
Good point.
Well, this video aged super well lmao
I wonder if Gene is a subscriber 😛
He hasn't called me...yet.
I'm an American and have had F1 pain since Andretti drove for McLaren in 1993. I was so excited to see that but at least he got a podium where his dad got the championship
Kinda makes you wonder if Michael had stuck around a little longer, maybe he might have turned up finally...but then we'd have no Mika storming in with Ayrton.
Well Well Well this has aged like wine XD
Huh, LawVS I have to say that I didn’t expect that you would be so on point. I guess Gene has seen this video. 😅
This aged like fine wine! :D
Thanks for the podcast version that's got all the sound efx and stuff removed. Makes it obvious how much work you do put into these videos.
Not to mention how I can plan ahead and make it easier for myself later on!
Otmar deserved 2023 more than Gunther deserves 2024.
Damn right. Alonso destroyed Ottmar's carreer and nobody remembers how he constantly was pushing over his weight in Force India
It's HOW THIS CAME TO PASS, MY GOOD MAN YOUR INTUITION
Haas needs an overhaul. Revamp their management structure, change their operation processes, etc etc. Of the backmarkers, Williams is already changing themselves to push forward on the standings(and their results show), Sauber is waiting for Audi to come in, Alpha Tauri has already made plans to work closer with RB within legal means to push themselves forward. What has Haas done?
The fact that they can't even provide a good environment for rookie drivers is already a massive red flag(and Williams openly being in survival mode still manages to provide a good environment for Russell and now Logan to grow), what goes on behind the screen at Haas? If their rookie drivers get shat on, then what of their junior engineers?
They really do...but I don't see them doing that unless Nico walks.
Well There you go. You got your wish.
Well guess what just happened
Well, this video aged well...
You saw it here first, folks.
It’s been time to have that conversation for YEARS
I just feel like they have had a couple of bad years since Covid I believe they can be a solid midfield team with the right direction and drivers
Of course. It has potential, the team, but their goals are completely ambiguous.
@@LawVS the legend has responded 🙌
Well, that aged like fine wine. 👀
Well...
I'm a relatively new fan that was brought in by sim racing. I started watching drive to survive and after the first season I just assumed that Steiner would be gone in season 2 because he seemed like a funny clown out of his depth.
As i progressed through the show he was still there and I was completely dumbfounded.
I think the gimmicks have run their course with him.
Well this aged well. Steiner is gone.
Williams has become the “American Team”. Americans love underdogs, which is what Williams brands themselves as. With that along with the huge “win” of getting 7th, I see more and more people in America becoming Williams fans. (Obviously Logan is a factor but even then some were calling for him to be dropped)
I suppose so. Williams have certainly become the paragon team and Americans probably value Williams for putting faith in Logan, especially now.
Interesting. I guess even more so with Logan getting another go.
Such a great video to listen to while feeding my newborn. I think you're onto something and as much as it would suck to lose Guenther, I feel HAAS are just sitting in the breeze and really lacking technical direction. I still feel that Guenther can bring some commercial value, but perhaps Mattia could come in and help from a technical point of view?
Congratulations, by the way! And yes, Haas need to evolve and become more of their own entity instead of customers to Dallara and Ferrari beholden to their whims.
You are the new team principal in HAAS F1 Manager after all 😂
Thank god you said this. 2023 was the first season i entirely watched, and i started out as a Haas fan, but as time went on i have just lost all interests for the team, and now see myself as a Ferrari, McLaren, and Williams' fan. I would love to see Haas sell to Andretti and have a proper American Owned team. I wouldn't be suppressed if they do end up selling in the next few years when their value begins to decrees. You also have to think that Haas Nascar team hasnt been that good over the past few years. And are under threat of losing their spoty on the grid. Gene may see the decay of his Nascar team and deride to pull the plug on all of his motorsport teams
I tend to agree, steiner was great for marketing but in the end him and Gene just doesn't have the ambition and lust to really win.
Also love how you engage with your viewers in the comments.
I reckon they do have hopes to win...they just don't know how to do it.
It's always strange to hear that Steiner is Italian. While this is of course true, he is more looked upon as an Austrian since Tyrol is part of both Austria and Italy. Additionally, people from Tyrol are usually very proud to be from Tyrol and do not like to call themselves Austrian or Italian.
Anyway, I think you have brought up some good points. The strategy with not updating the car, or only in big packages, is not working. And relying only on Ferrari won't help them either. And if neither of them can't be blamed, it's the drivers. It's just never Steiner or Haas or anybody in the team, and that's not encouraging. And to be fair, the drivers in 2022 were not the problem, and neither were they the problem in 2023. Nothing will change here unless Steiner takes some responsability and adresses the real problems of the team.
Plus... do we really want another rookie at Haas? The way Mick was handled is not really encouraging and if I was the FDA, I would be very cautious to give Bearman a chance at Haas. I mean... one bad move and he'll be branded Tosser...
Haas have promised to be better with rookies and I can really see Ollie Bearman there in 2025, especially if he has another few goes in the VF-24.
The fact that he's one of the longest standing TP is a joke
Oh yeah...that's true.
As much as I liked DTS and Steiner was fun and entertaining there, just imagine having him as your boss... It is not a good picture, he is not on par with likes of Toto, Horner or Vowles
He isn't incompetent, he knows how to bring teams together...but he doesn't have vision for after the fact.
@@LawVS He knows how F1 and F1 team works, that's true. But not sure that he knows how to properly manage and motivate people around. I mean, Drive to Survive is fun but not a good ad for people potentially going to work for Haas F1 team. I don't want my manager to shout at me, search for scapegoats and swear at me constantly.
Maybe he is a good manager and what we saw in the show is just a media image but that's the impression I have
Guenther is already positioning himself with media projects, plus his own company in the States is taking more of his time, I suspect he’s ahead of this video and is wise enough to see the writing on the wall, Netflix will miss him greatly
Which is correct. He is aware his time is limited so maybe strike out while he's still relevant.
Literally finally watching this video and a friend messages that he's been fired! This just made my day. Great video though and loving your content!
Would love to see a video about if f1 had a world cup and the driver lineups for each country
Interesting, but I'm not a fan of football/soccer so I'd be not qualified for such a thing.
@@LawVSwhat about something olympics style?
I think the nature of how Haas set up its racing foundation by outsourcing as much as they could to Ferrari and Dallara respectively caught up with them a few years ago, meaning they don't have either the resources, understanding or ability to fix problems with their car (2019 was plagued by the balance of the car shifting wildly from session to session for an example, or how the 23 car chewed through tyres so it qualified well but floundered on races) That combined with far too many high-profile blunders as mentioned pretty much meant Haas have been left behind by the rest of the paddock, with only Williams' recent woes to thank for keeping them off the back row. I'm sure they tried to emulate Jordan's privateer successes at first but are looking more like if Ferrari ran one of those old shoestring Italian backmarker teams from the 80's and 90's like Scuderia Italia or Forti for the purpose of revenue from customer parts sales. Without major changes to either central philosophy, infrastructure or both, I can't see Haas doing more than just being happy to be there until Gene sells up
(Apologies for the wall of text, I try to avoid these for risk of looking like an angry rant)
No worries! This is a fair point. It worked initially but they needed to then evolve from the 2018 car and then find an upgrade path that worked. Clearly they didn't.
I can’t watch any other f1 RUclipsr talk about the sport because none of them match your personality
You were right on that one, Miss Irma !
Last I checked Moneygram is owned by Walmart. Pretty damn stable
At least they HAVE cash.
@@LawVS oh they absolutely do. I live 20 min from Walmart World HQ. The amount of money is incredible. Doesn’t Walmart sponsor Red Bull? I know they are in on another team.
I do think Haas F1 team needs a complete restructure. They do need a new TP but I think they need someone above that too. Gene just doesn’t seem interested. I thought that rumoured Alfa Romeo sponsorship made sense with them leaning more on the Italian side of the team but thats not happening. They just seem to be going nowhere.
Gunther seems like a decent guy to have around. Not least for the Social Media stuff but he’s showing he’s ineffective as a TP
His social media antics have saved his career for longer than natural
I got recommended this a few hours before the news broke, this video aged well.
I was literally talking with my Haas fan friend. Literally said yesterday. “I think Guenther needs to go”
He immediately spun on me seeing as Steiner is a household name, but I completely stand by it.
What I dont like is that they oppose the Andretti bid, and there’s constant talk that FoM doesnt want more teams at the back.
When HAAS has been a backmarker since 2019 really
2022 was such a relief...but they failed to capitalise on this new era. They had such a developed car...
I do think Ferrari is partially involved with the answer to the tyre issue. I doubt it's a coincidence that the two teams who struggle the most with their tyres also use many of the same parts including suspension. If Ferrari manages to improve that it will likely also benefit Haas. But of course that's not the only factor involved. Haas needs to put in some work as well.
Of course they do need to put in more effort.
38 since uploaded, let's goooo. I hope haas can bounce back
I hope they can as otherwise they've lost Nico.
@@LawVS that is true. Imagine if haas AND Nico got there first podium together. I'd lose it haha.
it's sad how much potential this team has, with how much money they save on operations with their business model they could easily have the biggest development budget out of the grid, but oh well
It's all well and good having the cash (finally) but it's another thing entirely knowing how to spend it.
I don't even know why I like this channel and your presentation, but I do, and thank you! It's a whole package thing.
Haas should sell the team to Andretti. They have the money. They're a US team focused on racing, and they'll be competitive.
I doubt they will sell though. There is too much history of selling between the parties.
@@LawVS Agree 100% just wishful thinking
Porsche should put in an offor for it. Or Lamborghini if VAG still wanted the entry with the italian facilities.
I think Porsche is not interested in F1 after the Red Bull pullout.
has anyone actually read his book as it shows a lot of the complaints
I've got it on my list as I've got to get through Adrian Newey's book first.
@@LawVS well it explains 2021 and that gene actually cares
The big question is who replaces him
Fair question. Otmar perhaps?
Betting on Romanian-American Otmar Szafnauer for the place.
This aged well 😂
I would love for Andretti Global to buy out the Haas team. Then we would actually have a competitive American team, unlike this junior Ferrari team that slaps an American flag on its cars. Love your videos!!
Considering how long Andretti has been pestering Haas to sell, it could still happen.
Honestly, I think Mattia Bonato would be probably the next good team principal for Haas
I can see that but I think Mattia would rather have a backroom job.
honestly they need to have another member who's technical, as operationally he can get a team running cost effective, but lacks technical understanding. they have talent in the aero department but it needs someone at the top (just look at the difference Vowles has done). GS is a good operations manager but not a leader. he's shrewd and like a modern colin kolles....
Of course. They need Simone Resta to assume more responsibility to really make his mark after his time with Ferrari.
You spoke it into existence because he just left the team 😮
Sacking Guenther isn't enough or even the right solution for Haas to be honest. You could put Christian Horner there and it wouldn't solve any of their issues.
The problems stem from Gene not wanting to invest in growing the team to become more self-sufficient. Currently, the team is scattered in 3 different locations and relying on Ferrari developing good parts for them. That's just not a feasible business model for success in the current budget cap era.
Either Gene needs to cough up or sell up.
It's one factor yes. But Guenther is the leader and without direction then the team fails to progress
Haas is a American team that chooses when it wants to be a American team for the most part it’s basically Italian.
So when it suits them?
well well well
I don't necessarily disagree with the sentiment, but I just can't see it happening. Haas is Gunther's team as much as it is Gene's, and as little as he seems to care or know about winning, they're still operating two cars.
It'd be very hard to argue that they're "putting the sport in disrepute" like many other backmarkers before them.
I think even FOM feels a level of obligation to Haas because of the circumstances they entered the sport in.
I don't think gunther will ever admit to being unfit as a TP, so the best I think we can hope for is for him to hire some competent people to help with the parts of his job he's bad at, but even doing that would require a level of humility I'm not sure he's capable of.
That's fair enough. I just needed to get this off my chest.
He’s really bad. And as a manager, he never takes responsibility or blame for anything and never hesitates to publicly blame the drivers or the engineers. This guy can say thanks to Netflix for his popularity but he’s a very bad manager and person.
He started off solidly but then it fell apart as the team faced adversity and thusly couldn't find a new direction. Admitting he was stumped effectively is quite a big deal.
Yesterday, I watched Perspective's video on Haas and thought 'When are we going to talk about Guenther Steiner being a bad TP?'
Lo and behold, Law uploads that video.
He was a good one to start with but he hasn't proved to be a long term pick.
Ever since Gene sold out to Papa Mazespin I can't take the team serious anymore tbh, the Rich energy thing before also didn't help
I think Rich Energy was tame by comparison.
Nice
Maybe Günther doesn't have to go, maybe he is restricted by Gene. A change of ownership and a free reign might give him the opportunity to show he can not only built a team on a budget but he can be competitive with that team.
Either way, there is some kind of bottleneck preventing Haas from evolving as they should.
@@LawVS yes, there is. I'm willing to give Günther the credit to try it under a different ownership.
However, I fully understand the points you're making in the video and mostly I agree with them
He just needs a partner. Kind of like Niki and Toto were. Niki was crap by himself when he lead Jaguar, but with Toto they made a great team!
Which is fair. He DID work with Niki Lauda at Jaguar for a while, working under him when Lauda was TP for them.
Yes, lately it looks like they're more interested in collecting their share of the cut than actually compete with others. If only Andretti could replace HAAS bcz they seem more promising to give us a better competition.
True. F1 has become a huge investment and soon Gene may choose to cash in.
with prize money only going to ten teams i"m not surprised Haas are most opposed to an eleventh
Honestly, the whole Haas F1 Team is a bit shaky. Guenther Steiner is a problem, but not their biggest problem. I personnaly think that Haas simply can't develop their car properly, and it's not because of their lack of money, it's their poor capability of knowing where to invest. And in that general area , it isn't Guenther job to thoroughly inspect the cars development. So, I see Guenther as a problem that has to go, but it should not be the top priority of Haas.
There are indeed multiple factors going on here but Guenther IS the leader in charge of the daily operation.
Remember when Virgin said they didn’t need a wind tunnel
Yeah...bad call...at least they fixed that eventually.
You were right
Oh the way this aged. ohh
He needs to go as TP. It isn't working with him in that role. Perhaps they could dig up Binnotto to replace him. However, Guenther as some sort of media representative? Yes, totally absolutely yes, even if it's not for Haas. For SOME sponsors, he'd be great to have around. He's too much of a meme to just chuck aside.
Perhaps Otmar could have a go. Bring BWT!
@@LawVS He actually came to mind after I wrote that comment. I'd have more faith in him than Binnotto... especially as he's used to working with teams that like to do a lot with not much.
No, Gunther is pure content, way more than haas could ever provide as they're severely underfunded
I get what you mean. He provides some sort of relevancy for them.
I feel like the dream is still alive, but only to Gean. The rest of haas feels like they've given up/waiting for their time to jump ship. I feel like its some sort of pride thing not selling to Andretti/Cadillac. It would be kinna a kick to the teeth stumbling so badly the last few years, the selling to the guy thats been nipping at your heals for years. Then if they come in with fresh money and ideas and a full works program. And all they have to do to be better than haas is not get last...
Definitely a pride thing. Andretti has courted them for too long.
Guenther could be good for a small team in other racing sports, he has a lot of experience. But for a F1 team? Eeeeh i think he adds nothing anymore, not even Audi would benefit with having Guenther as a team boss.
But i must say that as a pro wrestling fan, i love to think Guenther Steiner saying some stuff that Scott Steiner said in his math promo because with how haas is... only a crazy math to make it work somehow.
He started off strong but failed to evolve or learn a new way to lead in to 2022.
Haas has been disappointing at best these past few seasons.
This year saw a couple of great Qualifying runs, only to have all hope destroyed come Sunday.
I'd say a shake-up is in order, no reason Haas shouldn't be able to compete for points with the likes of AlphaTauri, Alpine, Williams, and even Aston.
But who knows, maybe this season is the year we'll see K-mag and the Incredible Hulk finish in the points (consistently)...
It seems really sad to see that.
I agree LawVS should take over for Haas
Won't Haas lose value overtime if Gene waits for a good buyer?
They have to be competitive or else this wont end well
Very true. It could easily start losing value soon if Red Bull keep dominating.
ive been saying this for the last 2 seasons
It's a fair take.
But GENE...GENE!!
I can't really argue with this take, though my own is a bit harsher still:
Gene. *Sell the damn team.*
I think it's time for some kind of shift.
have you ever considered selling ladders as merch
Ladders aren't exactly marketable though other than being...ladders.
You got your wish
I live in the US - I know a total of zero Haas fans. They have no 'American Identity', they're uninspiring and sad to watch. I completely agree - they need a shift in direction, and that means a new team principal.
They either need to lean back toward the American aspect of things or just own their present identity; but yes, they do need a leadership pivot.
Or Haas is just gets out to make way for a new team that's willing to compete
Of course but something is keeping them there but we can't be sure.
Well this aged perfectly ok
This is a scenario where on paper it sounds good to get rid of Gunter but if this happens someone else will come and ruin the team and bankrupt them. Mark my words on this.
That's fair to suggest but the caution of doing nothing is leading to the team coasting.
Change Steiner for his friend.
#makesBinallaamemeagain
Poor Mattia. I think he would do better in a background job where he can quietly be an engineer.
@@LawVS Maybe they might have been way closer or win 2022 if he was the engineering lead.
You did this
Davros: YOU ARE THE DESTROYER OF THE WORLDSS!
Been saying this for 2 years now.
I reckon it's getting more and more obvious now the team has had a relatively stable season PR wise.
It finally happened
You leave Guenther alone!!! 😂😂😂
I would disagree, he's certainly doing better for Hass than Vasseur is doing for Ferrari. Fred may be Kamikaze Charlie's mentor but the team has been going backwards since he was brought in, that's a fact. In '22 Mercedes only got close because they where there to pick up the crumbs when the Blunderia screwed up, one way or another, while in '23 the W14, a veritable sh*tbox on wheels, was simply the better car and Mercedes earned P2 in the WCC on merit.
I don't rate Vasseur at all and what happened to Carlos in Vegas was just unacceptable. If old man Enzo was still around he'd been on the horn, "Bring down the shutters, pack up and get out of town pronto!" It wouldn't have been the first time a Ferrari boycott (or the threat thereof) would have made the FIA "see the light", such is Ferrari's weight. Imagine the most prestigious event on the calendar without the team that represents Formula 1 like no other... and don't say anyone, "But the FIA had no wiggle room." Remember? The very next day the FIA tore up their precious rulebook without batting an eye, by getting FP3 underway well before the mandatory 18-hour break between FP2 and FP3 had elapsed.
P.S. Guenther's accent would be Austrian, not German... being a native of South Tyrol. ;)
I appreciate the clarification regarding the accent. As for Guenther, there is no disputing his organisation skills and getting stuff done; but that's when he has a good idea on how to work around it...now he seems to have lost that...and is just repeating himself which doesn't work these days.
Pascal Werhlein approached him for a seat at HAAS but was rejected. This shows that he (G) does not know what talent is.
Really? I missed that tidbit. At least Pascal has had some success in FE.
Did Guenther make Haas look like a bunch of bankers?
Merchant bankers at that.