Tutorial: Better Shuffling Magic: The Gathering Commander Decks (and any other cards!)
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2021
- Learn how to mash shuffle cards so you don't damage them!
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gosh six months ago i didn’t know what mtg is now i’m spending my wednesday night learning how to shuffle cards lol
26 years ago I didn't know what mtg is, I haven't played it for the past 20 years and now youtube does this to me.
Feeling the exact same - I played my third game last night and I’m watching this on a Wednesday 😂
Damn this is relatable 😂
sheeeesh
Same
This is literally the video that made card games a comfortably viable form of entertainment for me. I cannot thank you enough.
Happy to help!
How does it make it comfortable ? you wont be using this video for other games when you actually watch
@@lordhallibel3604i can't understand what you're trying to say
Thanks for the tutorial! I just sleeved up my first Precon and felt overwhelmed by how big of a pile it was. I’ll need to do some serious practice before I’m confident.
Yup! Baby steps!
Glad this video exists. I’m new to commander and just returning to mtg in general after like a decade. I’m gonna sleeve my two precons o bought and it seems huge in all the vids I see playing commander
I split the deck into 2 piles then shuffle like this to both piles then shuffle the 2 piles together.
@@defeeded0887 i do what the vid does but with smaller piles and let my opponent shuffle if they desire.
My friend and I are just getting a third friend into magic, and shufffling sleeved 100 card decks was a significant barrier for him. I've tried showing him basically this, but a thorough, well explained first person perspective is a lot better than a 60 second crash course before a game, so thanks for a great resource to send him!
Happy to help!
Key thing to know, cheap sleeves are a bit harder to mash shuffle then say dragonshield sleeves. Even some ultrapro sleeves corners will/can get bent pretty easily with mash shuffling, doing say 100 cards for a commander deck.
eclipses are so guilty of this, they feel and look premium but they do NOT hold up
Dragonshields are attrocious nowadays. Idk what happened to them.
@@machina188 Agree, I got new DS sleeves and less than a month later I have a few that are splitting from mash shuffling. Only really works if double sleeved.
@@machina188 thanks for confirming. I was asking myself if I already ruined mine with a few unclean mash shuffles since they won't slide into each other as smooth as my other decks sleeved in Gamegenic sleeves that cost like half of those...
Hello! I would personally I like to say that over 6 years of play I’ve never been able to shuffle properly as of recently I’ve really only been doing the pile shuffling and because of this I’ve now been able to shuffle my 98 card double sleeved Pako and Halden deck. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Glad I could help! Feel free to share the video to your local LGS community :)
Thank you so much for this! Shuffling is the hardest part of the game for me and everyone just seems so fast.
Yup practice definitely makes perfect!
I sleeved my first commander deck and thought there was no chance but this video helped a lot. TY
The only good shuffling video I have found so far that's not a parody. Thanks for the good content. I have always mash shuffled buy felt like I don't get a good enough mix, I might just need to do more
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is nicely produced, thoughtful, talks about a bunch of interesting and relevant side details. Really good. Thanks.
I knew I wasn’t the only one who was struggling lol. Thank you for this video.
One of the few videos to show mash shuffling and the ability to deliberately or accidentally not shuffle the top or bottom. Great video!
I feel physical pain whenever I see a riffle shuffle.
Great vid, thank you. The mash shuffling sensation is so satisfying, feels like the cards are designed to be shuffled this way.
Yup! Matte finish is really satisfying
Fantastic guide! I tried a couple other ones but they never pointed out how the edge of the sleeves will assist in sliding into each other, which really helped with my practice. Definitely will be sharing this to other folks who want to learn how to shuffle
Please do!
Thanks for this ^^ been playing commander and wanted to understand how to get better at shuffling. Looking forward to giving this a try
Coming back from taking a break since 2014-2015 and I forgot how unwieldy 98-99 sleeved cards can be to shuffle. Commander/EDH wasn't my favorite back then and didn't get too many hours in - this time around though I plan on giving it another go. This definitely helped me out and makes my standard and pioneer decks feel like a breeze to shuffle. A hand workout for sure, thanks!
I've seen people shuffling like this and never really knew how to approach it. Great tutorial! definitely using this for now on! Much appreciated.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much, long time collector turned player I was pretty afraid shuffling very expensive cards.
I had no idea how to shuffle cards before I watched this video. I always thought shuffling would be too hard to learn, so I never bothered and resorted to pile shuffling. Then, I did as you said and shuffled a small number of cards while gradually adding more to the deck. I also practiced shuffling without looking while watching RUclips. Now I feel pretty confident in my card shuffling ability. Thank you for this easy to follow tutorial!
Happy to have helped!
Thanks for the video!
Just sleeved a precon and can’t wait to get started!
Also that’s an awesome playmat
Thanks! Link to purchase is in my description
Oh my god this guys talking about practicing shuffling this is insane insanely awesome well this guy rocked
Thanks a lot. I’ve been into LCGs very recently and most of the quick board games I had are card games revolving around decks that needs to be randomized. Thanks for tips!
Glad I could help!
This was a great tutorial, thanks! I'm used to riffle shuffling and find it very satisfying to do, but I feel like i can see the soul leaving the body of people as they watch me bend my deck 😅 luckily this is just as satisfying and way easier to manage a sleeved deck
Glad it was helpful! Yeah it's that riffle will destroy the cards, but rather you accidentally bend a single card in that process.
In my experience the most key point about this shuffling method to doing it easily and well is what you said about 4:30ish which is starting from the bottom. Before I learned this method well I was doing it from the top on occasion and splitting the sleeves down the sides and having to replace sleeves relatively often. If you start from the bottom you pretty much will never split sleeves.
Also using a more high quality sleeve like dragon shields is helpful as opposed to ultra pros or something else, which is still okay but that is general across the board almost.
This was great. Thanks for going through the trouble to make this video. Great job!!
Always happy to help!
Good vid man , i was looking for a good way to Shuffle since i'm kinda new to commander (and Magic) . I guess i need to practice now !
Glad you like the video. Take your time and you'll be just fine!
This is how I’ve always shuffled my decks! I hate doing it without sleeves but I’ve found it to be statistically better than any other method
I would never even use cards without sleeves haha
Wow, it feels so good to shuffle this way! Thanks :D
Hell yes! This is a much easier, and more efficient, way of shuffling.
I'm rather new to MTG so I'm still running with precons modified with Booster Pack pulls.
Just for fun I sorted up lands and everything else.
I took my pile of lands and mash shuffled them into the middle of the remaining cards then I alternated in taking the top 1/3 of the deck and mash shuffling it into the middle and then the bottom 1/3. I repeated this alternating pattern five times and then made three 7-card piles by drawing from the top of the deck to simulate opening hands.
I'm seeing MUCH better starting hands from far less time shuffling than before.
And since I'm so new to the game, I don't have a very good understanding of what constitues as a good card in what kind of deck, so I'm just trying a whole bunch of different cards that I think will be good and see what sticks.
To anyone bothering to read this far-- No, I don't like the idea of net-decking. I'm not a sweaty tryhard. Just regular sweaty, thank you very much.
I really like the way you explained everything. Great video and I learned a lot. Liked and Subbed.
Aww thanks!
a 13 minute video about shuffling without repeating yourself. nice
Thanks!
I love this shuffling method, I always had issues with the top and bottom not being shuffled, and I hadn't even considered just moving the mash so that the top and bottom interact!!! Great video and precaution to us (the viewers) on ways of cheating/not properly randomizing. +1!
As a new player, this is content should be a staple in every magic player's MTG playlist ;)
I did that in the video
@@brianfediuk ngl, I kinda disassociated during that section. I have corrected myself
Thank you so much for this video! I'm still not an expert but it has really helped me get the fundamentals and I'm sure I'll have it down soon.
Happy to help!
Great video. I've been teaching my 10 year old nephew how to mash shuffle with penny sleaves when we play limited magic or pokemon. He used to turn a bunch of cards the wrong direction. Thankfully he learns fast. Maybe in 5 years he can touch my expensive decks. Maybe.
ty! Simple and helpful tutorial with tons of extra information.
Thanks for the video, gonna practice this tonight
I've been using this shuffle since you taught me in high school ❤ hope to play mtg again one day!
Would love to! Fire me an email some day: brianfediuk@gmail.com
What a beautiful playmat ❤
Great video. I just got back into MTG about a month ago from being away from it about 11 years, and have me a warewolf commander deck. Trying to learn how to shuffle, since I play Yu-Gi-Oh, and the shuffling in that game is different than MTG. Again amazing video, and now I know what to go sit around and do all day.
Welcome back! Practice makes perfect :)
How does then shuffling differ?
This video is really sweet, thank you for making this tutorial!
Thanks!
Very lovely video. I have very stiff, very small fingers so shuffling is kind of a pain in the butt for me and I usually have someone else shuffle for me, but that makes me also avoid effects that require you to shuffle your deck. So, obviously I want to learn but never found any tutorial talking about mash shuffling (until today at least). So, thank you very much!
Thank you so much!
I definitely didn't need this video, but damn thank for this lol. I hope your channel succeeds
Came here because I instinctively could do it but knew I couldn’t be as dead on as I thought. As a new magic player and complete noobie to anything card related, this video really helped me out and teach me how to properly do it 🙏
i consider myself a seasoned commander player and I still watch this video lol. i learned to mass shuffle horizontally instead of vertically like you do, maybe i should learn to do it vertically as well
i came just to say I love the deckmat. and the contrast between the sleeves and the mat
You can make one in the description
A note to ppl, If you double sleave your cards, the middle of the card is much thicker than the edges, wich helps you shuffle, as the cards already now gives you a groove/zipper to put edge to edge on the cards, this helps massivly with shuffeling.
Aka, increasing the effect shown in the vid
This comment is a godsend lol. I was going nuts trying to figure out why I can shuffle all my other single sleeved decks in my sleep but I couldn't even get the cards to handle properly with my first double sleeved deck. Pushing the corners in closer to the middle of the other cards is much so much better
will it also work for regular sleeves + oversleeves?
@@ry7hym inner thin sleave + normal sleave is the best combo
Thank you so much man. I can't tell you how much I appreciate this video
I would be really grateful if you shared it with everyone you know
I only play with friends, but I always pile shuffle to help with clumped up lands and then shuffle those piles together. Then I’ll keep mass shuffling until everyone else is ready. Probably over kill but it works for me!
bro you are a legend this is magic..... thanks big love people dont share anymore
I Played cards 15 Years Ago i started this Year again with One Piece Tournaments that video helps me alot :)
This was a great video, Real informative, satisfying to watch you just shuffle and a good informative into the etiquette of shuffling. Thanks a tonne! : D
Happy to help!
Really handy video! I’m awful at shuffling and this helps alot
Thanks!
Thanks for tips man keep up the great work
Pro tip you HAVE to make sure you do bottom corner to bottom corner cuz if you do a top corner you WILL destroy 3-4 sleeves in one try other then that it's a great way to shuffle must faster and more efficiently to get into you games a bit faster instead of waiting 5 mins trying to shuffle and still be poorly shuffled
When I got into mtg, my cousins convinced me to double sleeve..... my hands are not the right size for that in commander lol went back to single sleeve and that's still a small problem but this helps a lot thank you!
Im not going to lie i learned how to shuffle like this is about 20 minutes i have experience with shuffling but I’ve never touched more than 60 cards I’m used to table top games such and poker and black jack and even light illusion shuffles. but this video really helped thank you you
Thanks! Spread word and share the video :)
Especially with double sleeved decks, you can also easily grab two piles by the tops (near the opening). the bottoms fan apart a bit and you can easily push the bottom corners together
Yup! Good insight!
Thank you for this. In some strategy board games, there are decks of 200+ cards to shuffle, all sleeved. An impossible task without pile shuffling. Unless you have inhumanly giant hands.
Yeah it takes some time to build the dexterity. You can also break decks down into like 3 piles, shuffle them, exchange a top half of one deck with another, shuffle again, etc. Do that 7 times with at least a top half and bottom half of each deck, and they are easily "random enough".
This is how I’ve shuffled for years, but I still tend to shuffle half of my commander deck at a time with this method. Just the most manageable to me. Then I can combine and cut and reshuffle as much as I want.
I usually mash the two halves about 5 times then mash the halves together once and do some cuts on top of that
I find just mashing the 99 a few times takes me far longer than this and the multiple methods really helps to break up the blocks of cards, I've definitely had games in the past where after only doing mashes, I find myself drawing oddly similar hands.
Seems reasonable to me!
Thanks for the info. Beginning commander player with about 10 games under my belt and I just haven't been able to get the hang of shuffling 99 sleeved cards. I really appreciate the time you took to make this. It was very thorough. Next question, why double sleeve. Thank again.
You double sleeve in case someone spills a drink on the table. Sleeves only protect 75% of the card. Double sleeving makes the card entirely protected against practically anything.
i play a lot of pokemon tcg and this is so far the only acceptable way of shuffling at any table that i have played at for the last 10 years
my guy is smooth with the shuffle
I would just like to say that if you get the Ultimate Guard Katanas this mash shuffling is far far easier to execute. And it is so satisfying. My ton of Dragon Shields are also fine to do but something about the texture of the Katanas just makes it so easy and natural.
I'll have to try them out!
I can second that. Just switched from the Ultimate Guard Cortex to the Katanas and the difference in shuffling is really massive and way worth the higher price.
Very well done imho. Verbalized excelently 🎉
Thank you!
great video my friend!
Just got my first deck today (Commander) and had to ask for people to shuffle for me. After I got home I figured out a way I can actually do it, apparently not harming the cards, but then I got scared because it's all single sleeves; but the way I figured to do it was to put it all on one of my hands like a hand fan, then with the order hand take the leftmost third and mash it unto the middle, then do the same with the left third, and repeat; I was scared as it seemed too easy.
Good way to shuffle (in fact, this is the way I myself shuffle...hold entirety of deck in left hand, use the right hand to take roughly a third of the overall deck and mash it into the center of the deck, rinse and repeat), however you MUST make sure to cut the deck every three shuffles or so, otherwise you aren't fully randomizing the entire deck.
When you take the back third of the deck and mash it into the center, it doesn't ever actually shuffle the cards that are at the front of the deck. Cutting the deck in two with a simple, trading cut remedies this. 👍🏻
I need that playmat!! :D
When I first started playing, I found that shuffling like you do in 9:58 where the top cards of the bottom and the bottom cards of the top overlap and only do that, the entire deck continually rotates in a random order and you dont need to change the size or order in which you shuffle the deck, just overlap the top and bottom of each top half and do that a handful of times, pun intended, and you're good
Thank you, your awesome!
Thanks!
i wasnt going to watch this until i read some of the comments and they are all so positive so now im committed
Coolest playmat I have ever seen
Thanks! There's a link in the description
Great video. I still wonder how to shuffle a 100 cards decks. I am now closer the answer thank to you ! 🎉❤
You'll get there!
I do mash shuffling and what I call "drop" shuffling to randomize the edges more, then it gets cut. But before every event I will do a pile shuffle of 10 cards first, both to count the number of cards to make sure I'm at 99 and then I stack them together randomly before mash shuffling afterwards.
Fantastic teaching.
Thanks!
Your playmat is rad as hell
Thanks!
@@brianfediukyou’re very welcome, where did you get it? :0
Description has a link
@@brianfediukthank you so much 🤌
Best shuffling video on youtube
yo that mat is dope af wodie
Thanks! Link in the description
Just an extra... after the first shuffle, some edges might not perfectly align as a single block (like when you were talking bout cheating), don't push them to align, use that as another sort of edge to easen up the shuffle
Did you know:
- for a 52 card deck, 7 riffle shuffles will make sure the a deck is properly shuffled, and
- the more you shuffle the worse you are at shuffling (as you become more consistent with time).
I follow the general thought that 10-ish mash shuffles is good enough for a 100 card deck. My technique for doing it with sleeved cards is quite different from yours but I think you advise is still extremely good. People are also waaay too worried of riffle shuffling, Magic cards can take a lot of bending and abuse, the main reason not to do it is that since we nowadays mostly use sleeves it is not that easy to do. Really appreciate how you pointed out the cheating aspect also, I always make sure to do a few cuts between shuffling and to ALWAYS at least cut my opponents deck. Even when I trust then.
With friends I usually just drop 10-20 cards into piles from left to right, then mash far left and far right together, and converge inwards, then 2 big mashes, followed by a cut. Most people are fine with that
That Mario 3 playmat is sick as hell
Thanks!
Honestly if someone can manage to track where enough cards are to be useful then honestly *they deserve the advantage*
Thanks for the video
No problem!
Thank you, my 100 cars double sleeved deck is tough to shuffle
Yup! Start slow :)
Double sleeved!! Aiight Bro 🙏🏽
I'm a casino dealer, oh man were people irate when I started shuffling. Needed this video to make me less of a frenemy.
Good and detailed demonstration!
Sleeving cards is crucial, as in my opinion, not sleeving them is the most unwise (or stupid, if to be honest) thing a board game player can possibly do.
No offense to anyone cuz I know certain cultures hate sleeves, but that's really how I personally feel.
After all, I never get why so many people care so much about not bending or damaging cards yet just don't sleeve their games. If one doesn't care, then that's alright, but this contradictory at its finest is mostly the case.
(not happening in my country since sleeves was a thing initially invented here)
Well said! Honestly a magic card collection becomes an investment over time. If you spend $5000 on cards over a decade you aren't guaranteed to get all of it back but softening the blow and selling it for $2000, at least you only spend $3000 now.
It hurt my soul when I seen the bridge shuffling
If done correctly, there is minimal damage done. But the bending can eventually wear down cards.
Everyone has their own sacred method.
Mine is my own esoteric mix that I have grown over the years ive been playing, which of the formulae I will now impart to you, reader.
First, split the lands from the spells
Shuffle both piles
Split the land pile in half
Split the spell pile in half
Shuffle one spell half with the land half using the sleeves and light pressure only
Split the two halves
Shuffle two quarters together
Shuffle two halves together
You will rarely get mana bound or mana screwed.
Cards should be stored lands/spells/tokens/commander using a card spin down or provided divider.
Now about the pile shuffling your allowed one pile shuffle per game its in the rules, The point isn't to randomize your cards but to count your deck out to make sure you have the required amount to play i have seen many games judging at my local shop that not doing atleast one pile shuffle per game is a massive mistake most do because i have seen many players not have a legal 100 card/60 card deck to play now if thats all they do then yes stop them and tell them to shuffle a bit different then just a pile shuffle but every player is allowed one pile shuffle per game no matter the format to count their deck out.
Pile shuffling is only reversible if you use a consistent or traceable system while shuffling. I broke my arm recently and was unable to do mash shuffling, so I was forced to use pile shuffling... but I didn't just do neat little stacks over and over in the same sequence.
I'd start by making 4 or 5 piles, but I'd put cards on the stacks haphazardly; after dealing 5 cards out to begin 5 piles, my 6th card might go onto pile #2, the 7th card might go into pile #5, and so on. I might draw a loose figure eight in how I dealt cards into the piles i made (with random exceptions, dealing a card out of sequence just CUZ), then randomly reverse the figure 8 after doing it a few times; maybe go back-and-forth, or top-to-bottom, or in lines like a typewriter, changing the patterns as I went based on no logic outside of randomizing the deck as well and efficiently as possible (while still keeping the cards in the correct orientation). I might arbitrarily start a new pile, then just as arbitrarily grab the top of a pile and put it onto another pile, then put the bottom on top of a different pile; random cuts, random re-stacks, and so on. Usually I'd end up with like 10 different piles of various sizes filling up the entire space, which would then get arbitrarily cobbled together (putting pile #3 on top of #7 on top of #1 on top of #2, or maybe #10, whatever.)
Now, if I was one of those savants who could just intuitively track these kinds of things then I guess it wouldn't work. But I'm not, and it seemed to work for what it was :)
I don't intend to criticize the video in any way; the vid was a very good introduction to a skill that isn't often discussed and might be intimidating to some. I just wanted to share another possibility that some might not have thought about ;)
If you trust the person, any method of shuffling works.
However, I've been to EDH games where people cheat-shuffle with piles. Like, every deck was pre-sorted so they did a seemingly random pile shuffle, but I noticed a pattern and asked if I could choose the order the piles were put together. He refused. I said that one of those piles has sol ring and arcane signet with perfect lands. It did.
So it's never about punishing honest people, it's more about catching dishonest people with a method that is harder to tamper with.
@@brianfediuk That's just messed up... imagine being so insanely competitive that you literally cheat over a friendly game of EDH.
You made the right move by insisting on adding your own randomization to it, since that's how they do it in tournaments. I'm a little curious how the rest of that story ends... I hope that "player" got what he deserved.
That's why I rarely go to my local LGS anymore. Would rather play with friends on webcam
I mostly just mass shuffle, however with new decks, my first game of the night, or after I have a round where I have terrible draw odds then I'll pile shuffle.
However my method is I always do 7 piles, as soon as I distribute my last card I pick up that pile or the one next to it, give it a quick little shuffle or two, and start laying those cards back down on the remaining piles and repeating this action untill I have only two piles left (generally Ill alter the order in which I go between the piles when I pick up a new pile), then I do one or two mass shuffles putting them together. A little over kill, but Ive also gotten pretty good and doing it fast.
I Pile shuffle 6 stacks, but go into random order picking random piles and sometimes place 2 cards at once. Then after that I do a mass shuffle. Seems to work really well.
Pile breaks up large sections of land/creature from previous games then mass shuffle just randomizes.
Thanks man, I'll totally practice this. Quick question though, what's that thing you do at 6:38 ? I defo wanna practice that as well.
I have no idea what it is called. I think it is either called card fanning or card cascading. Good luck! Don't use cards that you care about because it is very easy to bend them as you're learning the process
Details on the mechanics of how you’re holding the cards and whatnot would’ve made this more useful
I have de constructed someone's deck at FNM by reverse pile shuffle only 50% of the cards and placing them on top lol. He was so pissed, but I watched him stack the deck pre game.
pile shuffling two or three times is good if you just finished a deck and want to get everything evenly distributed
After watching the 15 year old saitou shuffling video that got recommended to me, I suddenly get shuffling tutorials in my feed
Riffle and Mash shuffling are statistically the least random. There are a few videos that run models on the most effective shuffles.
Great video! What sleeves are you using? I noticed different sleeves have different shuffle quality and some get damages easily than others even with the careful shuffling
Dragon shield matte are my favorite currently