"bad weather bike" (because winter is drier than spring and autumn, here)... no, only 1 bike [low-end Trek hybrid, disc brakes....]; it will become my bad-weather bike when N+1 lands me with a better bike, I expect. On winter kit... found my neoprene overshoes didn't help much in the coldest (but dry) weather [chillblains are not fun], so have bought some Fizik Artica X5 for when the weather gets awful in a few months (and have some dhb 'full protection' and 'deep winter' bits...) And I'm currently trying to decide whether to sink some money on a wheel-on smart trainer... it's summer, but the wind is trying to peel the roof off the house...
I would highly recommend it in Wales as they spread the salt like they're trying to get rid of the stuff. Its destroying my bikes and I just want to ride my new bike.
Trainer setup all day long over a winter bike. Today's tech in indoor training has completely changed everything for riding in the "off-season" for those who have bad weather to deal with. They touched on a few points, but I think for me it comes down to the time I save with not having to clean my bike after a crappy outdoor ride and indoor trainers give you the ability to ride at whatever time of day you want. It's brilliant.
6;32 "maybe were getting soft in our 30s, Ive heard its a problem for some men" LOLOLOLOL brilliant as for winter bikes, same bike all year round, but for commuting if i did it i would have a second one
Wet bike / dry bike for me as it rains a lot in the summer in the UK as well. Wet bike: discs, mudguards and heavier duty tyres. You can just swap out the wheels for a quick tyre change (I hate punctures) totally worth the investment.
I use my Synapse all year for commuting after I grenaded the rear mech on my hybrid. The things that make it a non-issue are SKS mudguards, rinsing it when I get to work/home and GP5000TLs. These tyres are amazing!! I got a few punctures on Gravelking TLs and they seemed to collect flint on a regular basis. The GPs haven't cut, punctured, keep the sealant liquid and are fast and secure in wet, dry and cold.
Ordered my gravel bike as a multi purpose bike, winter, bike packing and of course... gravel rides :) But when it is freezing or very rainy: indoor training with Zwift or something else. Still, if the weather allows it: outside, more fresh air, better cooling etc.
I use a Dolan dual as my commute to work/rainy day/winter road bike. I used to use a cube 29er for winter off road cycling, but have recently bought a Planet X cycle cross/gravel. Bike which i prefer as its useful both on/off road. When it’s a nice sunny day nothing beats a long ride on my FP3. Bikes = N+4
I live in an area where our winter is what many people's fall or spring looks like but with little rain. So, only have one bike, which is a gravel bike & two sets of wheels. One with mtb tires & the other with all-road tires.
My best bike is probably everyone else's winter bike: heavy rim brake aluminium frame, alloy wheels, mix of previous generation Ultegra/105, cheap finishing kit. For when it's really wet, I still have my MTB with disc brakes.
Old cross bike definitely for winter. And commuting. 32mm tyres, discs, raceblade mud guards (quick unclip for when I’m cross training). Saves my race bikes for racing, and heavier too, so race bikes feel like rockets when I ride them.
I like the idea of a titanium gravel bike with 2 sets of wheels, one for bad weather-off road and one set for fast road rides. Titanium is almost indestructible and impervious to bad weather and rides very smooth. It’s the Swiss Army knife of road bikes!
seb Astian certainly not but the frame is usually the most expensive part of the bike as well as the most important factor in how the bike rides. Titanium frames are nearly indestructible and immune to airline baggage handlers. A well built titanium frame has a very smooth ride. It’s a lifetime frame and for a lot of people will see more than one component group
Yep. Winter bike for sure! Not mutually exclusive with a gravel / cyclocross bike. Need both in my mind, but if you only have one... Gravel bike with two sets of wheels. Especially valid if you plan on having your summer bike for a very long time.
I only have a road bike and a commuter bike, so kind of but not really. I hate riding in crap weather so previously i'd just clean up my road bike in september and take it out again in april and only ride the bare minimum with my commuter bike. Now i have a smart (wheel-on) trainer and zwift, and it has transformed my "winter riding" experience completely!
For my winter bike I use my $500 MTB with disc wheels and mudguards here in Toronto, Canada. The city cleans the streets quickly after a snow storm and the sun dries the pavement, I prefer to bike outside to avoid cabin fever and we have many sunny days over +2C
Yes a heavy old mountain bike since I want to feel the big big difference take my road bike in spring. That feeling is so great! But I agree about indoor training.
yes I have winter bike, using for commuting to work and training on the way from work,specialy mudguards for winter is a must have,and as was mentioned by Oli, then jumpig on summer bike is such a great feeling ♥♥♥
TT bars on my fatBike with 45N studs.. 50miler snow packed rail trail rides as well as hilly farmers fields and trails with the dog. I put 700miles on my FatBike between this winter and last riding this way. It doesn’t matter what bike you use but instead achieving the cycling fitness stimuli. HR can get up to 180 (age 54). Winters on the southern border of Lake Ontario are brutal cold and long. Leave the road bike on the hooks. For me changing the cycling experience for the winter brings a feeling of newness to my pastime.. the cross training is important.
I bought a high end Scott gravel bike and a second set of wheels with 28mm road tubeless. This serves three purposes - gravel riding, endurance riding, and crap weather riding. It is 2lbs heavier than my lightweight Scott rim brake summer bike. I really think I could have only the one bike if I had to. Big proponent of gravel bikes with a road oriented setup ie 2x gears.
One thing to keep in mind when switching between bikes, especially if you don't ride the nice bike for a long time, is to make sure the geometry between the two is mostly similar. If you have dramatically different geometry between the two (think super relaxed gravel vs slammed aero road), and you hop back on to your road bike, you will have an adjustment period to readjust to the more aggressive setup. I compensated for this by putting the same aggressive stem on my CX bike that I have on my road bike so the positions are similar.
I have a winter bike but I’m now using it mostly on my smart trainer. Indoor cycling is so much more enjoyable option that it used to be and made even better when combining a training plan for the winter months.
I have a “shit bike” as my winter bike, an old retro road bike I bought to use for commuting in the wetter months. Needed to revamp the shifters, new chainrings and cassette, cleaned up the frame drastically etc and now it’s my winter bike. I still use my light bike on super dry days during the winter when I know I won’t get too much grit on the roads.
Here in Cenn Penn (USA) I actually have 2 winter rides to preserve the summer ride. One is a 1980s steel steed and the other is a 2019 mid-range graveler.
Current winter bike is a 2012 Trek PDX. 30lbs w mech disc brakes/fenders/lights/etc. Makes it pretty nice when I switch to my lightweight Domane in March.
Yeah, we call your "winter" bike our "rain bike" in the US. I've got a Specialized Venge for a fair weather bike and a Trek 5200 for my rain bike. In Michigan, where I live, anything above a 25% chance of rain means I'm getting wet, so I take the Trek.
Definitely more apt to hop on my Kickr Core than head out in the cold/rainy season these days. I actually just leave my bike on the trainer and take it off as needed during the weekends, good weather, etc.
When I lived in Boulder Colorado, I rode all seasons. At least when the snow is fairly deep, it doesn't suck so bad when the wheels go out from under you. Hard on the bike ? Yes. For sure. Make sure you wear elbow pads at least. This is where I found out that knobby tires are just as pointless as street slicks. Wear and tear on brakes is harsh, salt and whatever else they put on the road you need to go rinse off or things go bad.
15:27 Before you get your knickers in a twist racing colours were dependent on where the racing team was located, not where the cars were made. Case in point: Ferrari used to supply a belgian team and every single car left the factory in the correct belgian racing yellow and the ones they supplied to Briggs Cunningham in the USA were correctly painted either blue with a white stripe or white with a blue stripe. The only lightweight low drag E type Jaguar ever made sold to Lindner in Germany was silver.
Not only that but British Racing Green is not a specific shade. He has used the Cooper/Vanwall/BRM darker green whereas Lotus used a lighter shade and HWM and BRP used a rather pale green. Also German cars were painted white till the 1930s.
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 An interesting point. Of course Scotland is part of the UK, like England and not a stand alone country. I'm not sure Scotland had officially recognised racing colours albeit the Rob Walker cars and the Ecurie Ecosse cars were dark blue. I just put it down to the Scots wishing to be recognised as separate from the English. I expect you knew but green was chosen in honour of Ireland where the 1903 Gordon Bennett race took place.
Living in UK and starting to wonder if need summer bike 😭. I actually have a gravel bike which gets mudguards and 32c tires for winter. Works great, then gets used off-road in summer plus is my commuter. Summer bike is 25c with rim brakes, but sure could get a fast all year bike as long as it takes mudguards and bigger tires for winter.
I have a Merida cyclocross bike with disc brakes, Shimano Tiagra group-set, full length mudguards and 35mm Schwalbe Marathon plus tyres. Doubles as my year round commuting and winter training bike
I plan to get a dedicated bad weather bike, either a Gravel or an Enduro one, because currently I don't go on rides when the weather is bad and I need to take away the excuse that "I only have a road bike without mud guards and it doesn't even have disk brakes".
Squealing from discs is resonance. That is the vibration coinciding with an harmonic in the system or a multiple thereof. The source of the vibration can be myriad but is likely to originate with a mis-tensioned spoke, loose rotor bolts or failure to attach the braking module correctly/or they may need nipping up/realigning a bit It happened to me and was maddening
I've got a Boardman CX bike I use over winter. I hate it. Still, it keeps my bright red Cervelo R2 safe, so I'll endure it for a while. As Ollie said, it does make that bike feel amazing in comparison when I get back on it.
I mean I understand they have the gear to show it off, but as David says, they’re perspective of ‘consumer’ is too distorted compared to 3/4 years ago. I’m still saving up for my dream bike (just old enough to work now) and when I get it I might stick it in a glass cabinet until it becomes obsolete in... 2 months. I would love to have the income as dentists who can have 7 bikes a week :)
I have two bikes, my summer / weekend roadster Canyon Endurace 8.0 Ultegra Di2 upgraded with a carbon canyon integrated cockpit, super light dt swiss wheels and stages crankset. And I have my year round gravel commuter custom built titanium bike running 40mm knobby tires at 40psi in winter time with full fenders and Arkel bike packing saddle bag. I do live in New York and ride about 24 miles a day most days year round. :)
My winter bike is my year round bike. Not extremely worried about getting it dirty or mucking up the mechanism, cause she’s tough enough to take it. Won’t win any beauty contests where I am not the only judge, but is a true workhorse
I don't have a a winter bike, I rock my SL6 S-Works Disc Di2 that i've put InvisiFrame on - makes cleaning it alot easier, and to be honest, the only bit that wears out quicker in the crap weather is the casette, chain and brake pads.. which would be the case on any bike. If I'm subjecting myself to the terrible weather is the UK winter, I'll be doing it on a nice bike to make it bearable.
In Toronto, it can be windy, snowy, and cold. For the beginning of February, average high & low temperatures are -2ºC & -11ºC, and we've about 10 hours of daylight; the monthly frequency of precipitation is 41%. But like most of the globe, we're affected by climate change, and this season we've seen fewer snowfalls and milder temperatures. (Yay!) I'm 65, and this is my first winter of cycling-and I'm loving it! When I don't have a specific destination, or my cycling buddies are otherwise engaged, I follow the suggestion you made in an earlier video, about cycling in inclement weather, and I do laps (about 2½ km per circuit) in a nearby national urban park. My question: after a ride, how can I quickly clean my bike? I can't use warm water, because I'll shock the bike's frame and components. I can't leave the bike to dry on its own, because the water will freeze quickly, and I can't be certain of getting everything dry with a towel. Also: I'm usually keen to get inside once the ride is over! I feel guilty leaving my trusty '96 Specialized Hardrock uncleaned after a ride, especially since I just replaced its entire drivetrain. Help, please!
Yes! If you don't want to go through the hassle of maintaining your bike every bloody day. My road bike was spotless, next day chain and cassette was full of gunk. Planning on getting a single speed for rainy commutes. Less maintenance for me...
Why did Ollie automatically start talking about Hipster Touring™ (AKA Bikepacking) as soon as he mentioned Gravel bikes? I would love a fast, off-road bike. I have no intention or interest in using it to lug around a tent.
@@rob-c. Cross bikes are racing bikes which means they have to meet various stupid rules, such as stupidly skinny tires, and often the gears do not go very low. Get a gravel bike before the UCI or some other governing body starts creating race rules that results in manufacturers neutering them with dumb tire clearance and geometry limitations.
Seann Woolery Matthew wanted a super fast off-road bike. A CX bikes geometry is set up for that and the tyre clearances are fine - if you can’t fit a tyre on a CX bike, it’s far too fat and not going to be quick!
Wow, I've been riding for about 2 decades, have not used disc brake at all and I have yet to wear out a rim. I tried to wear out the stock rims on my current bike but for 3 years I haven't been able to wear them halfway out despite 300km/week.
I don’t have a road bike right now, but I definitely wouldn’t ride any bike with a derailleur if the roads were wet and dirty. I don’t even like riding a single speed with a chain in the wet. I’ll either ride my belt drive bike or the Dutch bike with a full chain case.
Summer is actually the bad weather season for me. Large day/night temp changes mean getting sandblasted in 30-40mph sustained winds with 60-70mph gusts on the worst days.
I'm a "bike as transportation" kind of person, and live just outside of Portland, OR. As such I strongly believe in having a commuter bike setup for foul weather and for carrying panniers. I can grab a few days groceries on the way home, or haul in a full week's clothes on a Monday. It is a cheap used cross bike setup more for comfort than speed. My "summer" bike is a rigid 29plus bike for bikepacking stupidity in the drier months, but tends to come out of the barn to commute with whenever the roads are dry. It is setup for even more comfort (see a theme?) and while dog slow it is an absolute blast to ride, and I can be in the saddle for 10-12 hour days while loaded on rough roads for many days in a row. I'd rather go slow on my Monster Beach Cruiser than go fast contorted into aero bars on 25 mil tires. #jonesloopbar
I'm a massive fan of a dedicated winter bike (which is also my year-round commuting bike). To be honest, it's my day to day bike and I just have another, more expensive, summer bike. Which, ironically, I ride less (only riding it in the summer)...
I’m fortunate to live and ride in Southern California - love the GCN crew but my fowl weather bike is the gym! But if I had to choose a riding alternative I would definitely go with gravel bike as an harsh weather alternative or my Mountain Bike. And you lost me with break pad replacement?! My pads last a year at least?!
On winter bike vs indoor trainer: I agree with you when it comes to pure training. But: there is that element of being outdoors, breething fresh air, enjoying the light, maybe also good company, and most definitely a coffee stop at the end of the ride. It might be different as a pro, or when you are on a (training) mission, where you need to crunch the kilometers. But as a hobby rider, even cold and rainy wheather outdoors on your bike might be worthwile - maybe just to have some stories to tell afterwards.
My Best bike is a Specialized Tarmac from 2005 I got for 300 quid so I'll ride it in any weather for now and clean it up after. Though do have a TT bike I also bought on the cheap for 250 but leaving that for the Summer as falling of that is going to be way worse.
Indoor trainer setup is also useful when you can't ride outside, like when it is 43C and the bushfire smoke is too much. So definitely an indoor trainer setup for me.
Winter bike, yes, but its a fatbike which is most appropriate here. Also yes to a bad weather bike for use in late fall and early spring. And yes to an indoor smart trainer because they now make indoor training fun. Love the channel, great work.
I have only one bike and that cost a fortune and its not even a quarter of the price of a pinarello f12. But i use it no matter what the weather. I trust the bike manufacturer has done their research to make sure the bike will last for a long time😊
Developing this theme can you do a GCN does science about the relative merits of winter training on fixed, single speed, and geared bikes. Which gives the greatest training benefit?
I am 51 years old. I have three bikes, and I will never ride on a trainer. I don't want to win anything, but I love to ride my bike(s). I love to ride them in the winter as well. I live in South Korea near the sea, so the temperature almost never goes below -10C. It rains/snows sometimes in the winter, but I often find those are the best times to ride. I don't care about fitness because, like I sad I'm not trying to win anything, but riding in the wet and the snow is sometimes really fun. I walk my dogs in the rain and snow and they love it. I can't even conceive of riding on an indoor trainer where you can't see the beauty of the world around you. If you are a professional rider, OK, but if not, why?
Ahhh, yah...... ...if you live in Ottawa, Canada. And if you do get a “winter”, bike, plan on replacing the rear hub once every couple of years. Whatever you do, don’t forget to cover every square centimetre of skin, so that you don’t lose any body parts to the -30+ C windchill. No wonder we’re so sparsely populated. 🇨🇦
Colombia and Bogota has 2 weathers rain cold, or cold about to rain, is not like summer is never land here but isn't the most summer experience, is the cold that wears you down hunts you and also make you wash your bike for sure at the end of every wet ride, so that's why I have 2 bikes, 1 big strong versatile CX bike that goes road and offroad, gravel, and my other bike my 'ligth' bike is linked to my kickr just in case, and when the sun comes strong we get the reward of a coffee ride.
Yes yes yes. Have 2. In lakes yesterday bike gritty 1st half mile by end 2 hours couldn't see colour bike frame and chain freshly oiled crunching. Versus riding Dura Ace SLR frameset hand build lightweights wheels. Errrrr no. 105 and Alu Trek all good
I only have one bike that I use in dry conditions , but recently bought a smart trainer. I really enjoy that I can ride indoors during the winter in cold and rainy Denmark 🌧️❄️😀
Just have the one bike. Cost prohibits me to get another bike along with the maintenance cost with another bike. As long as you at least spray down bike after each ride to wash off the salt and grime, clean chain after every few rides and a proper clean more regularly then you should be ok?
Need a dedicated winter bike which can fit studded winter tires for grip on snow and ice. I currently use a gravel bike, my previous was my old CX bike.
Bed your disc pads in properly, and they won't squeal. I ride 160mm rotors on my cross and commute/winter bike, in rainy Lancashire and rarely, if ever, get a squeal.
Do you have a dedicated Winter Bike?
Nah, but you know, N+1 and all that.
"bad weather bike" (because winter is drier than spring and autumn, here)... no, only 1 bike [low-end Trek hybrid, disc brakes....]; it will become my bad-weather bike when N+1 lands me with a better bike, I expect. On winter kit... found my neoprene overshoes didn't help much in the coldest (but dry) weather [chillblains are not fun], so have bought some Fizik Artica X5 for when the weather gets awful in a few months (and have some dhb 'full protection' and 'deep winter' bits...)
And I'm currently trying to decide whether to sink some money on a wheel-on smart trainer... it's summer, but the wind is trying to peel the roof off the house...
I would highly recommend it in Wales as they spread the salt like they're trying to get rid of the stuff. Its destroying my bikes and I just want to ride my new bike.
Out here in West Penwith for sure... that Colnago, tyre colour consistent with the Mapei livery..
Living in Mallorca I use my "bad weather" bike, that way I don't feel bad about not cleaning it right after I get home :)
John is doing a good job representing not only the race but also dads everywhere with those shoes and hat.
I bought a winter bike. Then I cycled my summer bike throughout winter because its better.
Why ruin a top summer bike in the winter.
@@jack14kd how does the bike get ruined though, if u was it and service it frequently there's no issue.
Trainer setup all day long over a winter bike. Today's tech in indoor training has completely changed everything for riding in the "off-season" for those who have bad weather to deal with. They touched on a few points, but I think for me it comes down to the time I save with not having to clean my bike after a crappy outdoor ride and indoor trainers give you the ability to ride at whatever time of day you want. It's brilliant.
Wow that's brilliant, use a cx bike for winter! No one has ever thought of that 👏
For most people the question would be: "Do I need a good weather bike?".
6;32 "maybe were getting soft in our 30s, Ive heard its a problem for some men" LOLOLOLOL brilliant
as for winter bikes, same bike all year round, but for commuting if i did it i would have a second one
that line was great.
Wet bike / dry bike for me as it rains a lot in the summer in the UK as well. Wet bike: discs, mudguards and heavier duty tyres. You can just swap out the wheels for a quick tyre change (I hate punctures) totally worth the investment.
I use my Synapse all year for commuting after I grenaded the rear mech on my hybrid. The things that make it a non-issue are SKS mudguards, rinsing it when I get to work/home and GP5000TLs. These tyres are amazing!! I got a few punctures on Gravelking TLs and they seemed to collect flint on a regular basis. The GPs haven't cut, punctured, keep the sealant liquid and are fast and secure in wet, dry and cold.
Ordered my gravel bike as a multi purpose bike, winter, bike packing and of course... gravel rides :) But when it is freezing or very rainy: indoor training with Zwift or something else. Still, if the weather allows it: outside, more fresh air, better cooling etc.
I use a Dolan dual as my commute to work/rainy day/winter road bike. I used to use a cube 29er for winter off road cycling, but have recently bought a Planet X cycle cross/gravel. Bike which i prefer as its useful both on/off road. When it’s a nice sunny day nothing beats a long ride on my FP3. Bikes = N+4
I live in an area where our winter is what many people's fall or spring looks like but with little rain. So, only have one bike, which is a gravel bike & two sets of wheels. One with mtb tires & the other with all-road tires.
If I DON'T need a winter bike, that makes the rule N-1, which is just wrong...
Even worse, in my case, as I live in the West of Scotland, it would be N-2...
L Foster so you wanna say it‘s physically not possible to not need a winter bike.
Does that mean you're getting rid of a bike?
My best bike is probably everyone else's winter bike: heavy rim brake aluminium frame, alloy wheels, mix of previous generation Ultegra/105, cheap finishing kit. For when it's really wet, I still have my MTB with disc brakes.
Old cross bike definitely for winter. And commuting. 32mm tyres, discs, raceblade mud guards (quick unclip for when I’m cross training). Saves my race bikes for racing, and heavier too, so race bikes feel like rockets when I ride them.
I like the idea of a titanium gravel bike with 2 sets of wheels, one for bad weather-off road and one set for fast road rides. Titanium is almost indestructible and impervious to bad weather and rides very smooth. It’s the Swiss Army knife of road bikes!
Mark Reams but the bike is not just the frame 🤧
seb Astian certainly not but the frame is usually the most expensive part of the bike as well as the most important factor in how the bike rides. Titanium frames are nearly indestructible and immune to airline baggage handlers. A well built titanium frame has a very smooth ride. It’s a lifetime frame and for a lot of people will see more than one component group
Yep. Winter bike for sure! Not mutually exclusive with a gravel / cyclocross bike. Need both in my mind, but if you only have one... Gravel bike with two sets of wheels. Especially valid if you plan on having your summer bike for a very long time.
I only have a road bike and a commuter bike, so kind of but not really. I hate riding in crap weather so previously i'd just clean up my road bike in september and take it out again in april and only ride the bare minimum with my commuter bike. Now i have a smart (wheel-on) trainer and zwift, and it has transformed my "winter riding" experience completely!
I live in Colorado with 300 sunny days annually. Winter bikes aren't really needed except in the spring when we surprisingly get the most snowfall.
For my winter bike I use my $500 MTB with disc wheels and mudguards here in Toronto, Canada. The city cleans the streets quickly after a snow storm and the sun dries the pavement, I prefer to bike outside to avoid cabin fever and we have many sunny days over +2C
Yes a heavy old mountain bike since I want to feel the big big difference take my road bike in spring. That feeling is so great! But I agree about indoor training.
yes I have winter bike, using for commuting to work and training on the way from work,specialy mudguards for winter is a must have,and as was mentioned by Oli, then jumpig on summer bike is such a great feeling ♥♥♥
TT bars on my fatBike with 45N studs.. 50miler snow packed rail trail rides as well as hilly farmers fields and trails with the dog. I put 700miles on my FatBike between this winter and last riding this way. It doesn’t matter what bike you use but instead achieving the cycling fitness stimuli. HR can get up to 180 (age 54). Winters on the southern border of Lake Ontario are brutal cold and long. Leave the road bike on the hooks. For me changing the cycling experience for the winter brings a feeling of newness to my pastime.. the cross training is important.
I bought a high end Scott gravel bike and a second set of wheels with 28mm road tubeless. This serves three purposes - gravel riding, endurance riding, and crap weather riding. It is 2lbs heavier than my lightweight Scott rim brake summer bike. I really think I could have only the one bike if I had to. Big proponent of gravel bikes with a road oriented setup ie 2x gears.
One thing to keep in mind when switching between bikes, especially if you don't ride the nice bike for a long time, is to make sure the geometry between the two is mostly similar. If you have dramatically different geometry between the two (think super relaxed gravel vs slammed aero road), and you hop back on to your road bike, you will have an adjustment period to readjust to the more aggressive setup. I compensated for this by putting the same aggressive stem on my CX bike that I have on my road bike so the positions are similar.
I have a winter bike but I’m now using it mostly on my smart trainer. Indoor cycling is so much more enjoyable option that it used to be and made even better when combining a training plan for the winter months.
I have a “shit bike” as my winter bike, an old retro road bike I bought to use for commuting in the wetter months. Needed to revamp the shifters, new chainrings and cassette, cleaned up the frame drastically etc and now it’s my winter bike. I still use my light bike on super dry days during the winter when I know I won’t get too much grit on the roads.
I am not familiar with the term “just one bike”. What does this mean?
Here in Cenn Penn (USA) I actually have 2 winter rides to preserve the summer ride. One is a 1980s steel steed and the other is a 2019 mid-range graveler.
Current winter bike is a 2012 Trek PDX. 30lbs w mech disc brakes/fenders/lights/etc. Makes it pretty nice when I switch to my lightweight Domane in March.
Yeah, we call your "winter" bike our "rain bike" in the US. I've got a Specialized Venge for a fair weather bike and a Trek 5200 for my rain bike. In Michigan, where I live, anything above a 25% chance of rain means I'm getting wet, so I take the Trek.
Definitely more apt to hop on my Kickr Core than head out in the cold/rainy season these days. I actually just leave my bike on the trainer and take it off as needed during the weekends, good weather, etc.
When I lived in Boulder Colorado, I rode all seasons. At least when the snow is fairly deep, it doesn't suck so bad when the wheels go out from under you. Hard on the bike ? Yes. For sure. Make sure you wear elbow pads at least.
This is where I found out that knobby tires are just as pointless as street slicks. Wear and tear on brakes is harsh, salt and whatever else they put on the road you need to go rinse off or things go bad.
15:27 Before you get your knickers in a twist racing colours were dependent on where the racing team was located, not where the cars were made. Case in point: Ferrari used to supply a belgian team and every single car left the factory in the correct belgian racing yellow and the ones they supplied to Briggs Cunningham in the USA were correctly painted either blue with a white stripe or white with a blue stripe. The only lightweight low drag E type Jaguar ever made sold to Lindner in Germany was silver.
Not only that but British Racing Green is not a specific shade. He has used the Cooper/Vanwall/BRM darker green whereas Lotus used a lighter shade and HWM and BRP used a rather pale green. Also German cars were painted white till the 1930s.
@@grahamaustin9085 while we are at it British Racing Green wasn't all that British since the Scottish racing colours were dark blue with a white nose.
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 An interesting point. Of course Scotland is part of the UK, like England and not a stand alone country. I'm not sure Scotland had officially recognised racing colours albeit the Rob Walker cars and the Ecurie Ecosse cars were dark blue. I just put it down to the Scots wishing to be recognised as separate from the English.
I expect you knew but green was chosen in honour of Ireland where the 1903 Gordon Bennett race took place.
Living in UK and starting to wonder if need summer bike 😭. I actually have a gravel bike which gets mudguards and 32c tires for winter. Works great, then gets used off-road in summer plus is my commuter. Summer bike is 25c with rim brakes, but sure could get a fast all year bike as long as it takes mudguards and bigger tires for winter.
I have a Merida cyclocross bike with disc brakes, Shimano Tiagra group-set, full length mudguards and 35mm Schwalbe Marathon plus tyres.
Doubles as my year round commuting and winter training bike
When in the wet my front rotor makes a different pitch than my rear. I normally try to play songs when coming to a stop at lights.
Canyon Grail gravel bike with SKS mud guards has made a fantastic winter bike and it’s done some CX too - keeps up on club rides no problem - ace
I plan to get a dedicated bad weather bike, either a Gravel or an Enduro one, because currently I don't go on rides when the weather is bad and I need to take away the excuse that "I only have a road bike without mud guards and it doesn't even have disk brakes".
With the snow, sleet, ice and salt here in Canada. Absolutely.
I would have imagined that a helmet designed by a urologist would have had a much different shape.
Squealing from discs is resonance. That is the vibration coinciding with an harmonic in the system or a multiple thereof. The source of the vibration can be myriad but is likely to originate with a mis-tensioned spoke, loose rotor bolts or failure to attach the braking module correctly/or they may need nipping up/realigning a bit It happened to me and was maddening
I've got a Boardman CX bike I use over winter. I hate it.
Still, it keeps my bright red Cervelo R2 safe, so I'll endure it for a while. As Ollie said, it does make that bike feel amazing in comparison when I get back on it.
The fact that a Pinarello with Zipps as your winter bike makes me laugh
They (the presenters) are so far removed from what the paying public has to consider it truly is laughable.
They are sponsored and have to promote these brands.
I mean I understand they have the gear to show it off, but as David says, they’re perspective of ‘consumer’ is too distorted compared to 3/4 years ago.
I’m still saving up for my dream bike (just old enough to work now) and when I get it I might stick it in a glass cabinet until it becomes obsolete in... 2 months.
I would love to have the income as dentists who can have 7 bikes a week :)
I have two bikes, my summer / weekend roadster Canyon Endurace 8.0 Ultegra Di2 upgraded with a carbon canyon integrated cockpit, super light dt swiss wheels and stages crankset. And I have my year round gravel commuter custom built titanium bike running 40mm knobby tires at 40psi in winter time with full fenders and Arkel bike packing saddle bag. I do live in New York and ride about 24 miles a day most days year round. :)
Yes. In Scotland, hell yes.
It all depends if you're commuting. Good luck going places with your indoor setup! I'd say if you're commuting, winter bike is essential
I have two Winter Bikes, one with studded tires for icy roads and a Fat Bike for snowy roads. Usually five months of winter where I live.
My winter bike is my year round bike. Not extremely worried about getting it dirty or mucking up the mechanism, cause she’s tough enough to take it. Won’t win any beauty contests where I am not the only judge, but is a true workhorse
I don't have a a winter bike, I rock my SL6 S-Works Disc Di2 that i've put InvisiFrame on - makes cleaning it alot easier, and to be honest, the only bit that wears out quicker in the crap weather is the casette, chain and brake pads.. which would be the case on any bike. If I'm subjecting myself to the terrible weather is the UK winter, I'll be doing it on a nice bike to make it bearable.
It was in the -30s all last week here in Calgary 🇨🇦 a #frostbike is key to survival!❄️🚴💙
In Toronto, it can be windy, snowy, and cold. For the beginning of February, average high & low temperatures are -2ºC & -11ºC, and we've about 10 hours of daylight; the monthly frequency of precipitation is 41%. But like most of the globe, we're affected by climate change, and this season we've seen fewer snowfalls and milder temperatures. (Yay!) I'm 65, and this is my first winter of cycling-and I'm loving it! When I don't have a specific destination, or my cycling buddies are otherwise engaged, I follow the suggestion you made in an earlier video, about cycling in inclement weather, and I do laps (about 2½ km per circuit) in a nearby national urban park. My question: after a ride, how can I quickly clean my bike? I can't use warm water, because I'll shock the bike's frame and components. I can't leave the bike to dry on its own, because the water will freeze quickly, and I can't be certain of getting everything dry with a towel. Also: I'm usually keen to get inside once the ride is over! I feel guilty leaving my trusty '96 Specialized Hardrock uncleaned after a ride, especially since I just replaced its entire drivetrain. Help, please!
Yes! If you don't want to go through the hassle of maintaining your bike every bloody day. My road bike was spotless, next day chain and cassette was full of gunk. Planning on getting a single speed for rainy commutes. Less maintenance for me...
Boris Johnson try shimano nexus 3-speed setups if you’re in hilly terrain, so nice with more options.
@@juliusbulle not really hilly just some slight inclines. It's London after all...
Boris Johnson so you have one fleet of summer Boris bikes and one fleet of winter ones? ;)
Why did Ollie automatically start talking about Hipster Touring™ (AKA Bikepacking) as soon as he mentioned Gravel bikes?
I would love a fast, off-road bike.
I have no intention or interest in using it to lug around a tent.
Then you want a cyclocross bike 👍🏻
@@rob-c. Cross bikes are racing bikes which means they have to meet various stupid rules, such as stupidly skinny tires, and often the gears do not go very low. Get a gravel bike before the UCI or some other governing body starts creating race rules that results in manufacturers neutering them with dumb tire clearance and geometry limitations.
Seann Woolery Matthew wanted a super fast off-road bike. A CX bikes geometry is set up for that and the tyre clearances are fine - if you can’t fit a tyre on a CX bike, it’s far too fat and not going to be quick!
Wow, I've been riding for about 2 decades, have not used disc brake at all and I have yet to wear out a rim. I tried to wear out the stock rims on my current bike but for 3 years I haven't been able to wear them halfway out despite 300km/week.
I second what Opie said, a caadx with 32mm conti tires is great for winter riding and training, so much more comfort and enjoyment
1:47 love the "American" accent 🤣
I don’t have a road bike right now, but I definitely wouldn’t ride any bike with a derailleur if the roads were wet and dirty.
I don’t even like riding a single speed with a chain in the wet. I’ll either ride my belt drive bike or the Dutch bike with a full chain case.
Summer is actually the bad weather season for me. Large day/night temp changes mean getting sandblasted in 30-40mph sustained winds with 60-70mph gusts on the worst days.
I'm a "bike as transportation" kind of person, and live just outside of Portland, OR. As such I strongly believe in having a commuter bike setup for foul weather and for carrying panniers. I can grab a few days groceries on the way home, or haul in a full week's clothes on a Monday. It is a cheap used cross bike setup more for comfort than speed.
My "summer" bike is a rigid 29plus bike for bikepacking stupidity in the drier months, but tends to come out of the barn to commute with whenever the roads are dry. It is setup for even more comfort (see a theme?) and while dog slow it is an absolute blast to ride, and I can be in the saddle for 10-12 hour days while loaded on rough roads for many days in a row. I'd rather go slow on my Monster Beach Cruiser than go fast contorted into aero bars on 25 mil tires.
#jonesloopbar
I'm a massive fan of a dedicated winter bike (which is also my year-round commuting bike). To be honest, it's my day to day bike and I just have another, more expensive, summer bike. Which, ironically, I ride less (only riding it in the summer)...
@19:21 "How do you know what music he's listening to"?
Chris, r u trolling us!!??😜
I’m fortunate to live and ride in Southern California - love the GCN crew but my fowl weather bike is the gym!
But if I had to choose a riding alternative I would definitely go with gravel bike as an harsh weather alternative or my Mountain Bike.
And you lost me with break pad replacement?! My pads last a year at least?!
Everyone should have a 'guest' bike, which can also be a dirty day bike.
On winter bike vs indoor trainer: I agree with you when it comes to pure training. But: there is that element of being outdoors, breething fresh air, enjoying the light, maybe also good company, and most definitely a coffee stop at the end of the ride. It might be different as a pro, or when you are on a (training) mission, where you need to crunch the kilometers. But as a hobby rider, even cold and rainy wheather outdoors on your bike might be worthwile - maybe just to have some stories to tell afterwards.
Adding to that: Yes, I'd fancy a winter bike for that purpuse, but there are restrictions (budget, space in the garage, domestic peace)
My Best bike is a Specialized Tarmac from 2005 I got for 300 quid so I'll ride it in any weather for now and clean it up after. Though do have a TT bike I also bought on the cheap for 250 but leaving that for the Summer as falling of that is going to be way worse.
Indoor trainer setup is also useful when you can't ride outside, like when it is 43C and the bushfire smoke is too much. So definitely an indoor trainer setup for me.
Winter bike, yes, but its a fatbike which is most appropriate here. Also yes to a bad weather bike for use in late fall and early spring. And yes to an indoor smart trainer because they now make indoor training fun. Love the channel, great work.
When Chris asked if he could read the rest of the Kestrel description. I did wonder if he could read the start of it.
Yes, just got the mud guards out can't wait to go and do some wet rides on the winter bike
If your road bike has discs and 28c tyres, I don't see much sense in having extra winter bike. You can think about some mudguards and that's it.
And standards are back in the bike vault! Way to go Ollie.
Nice bike + indoor trainer + cheap fixie if I absolutely need to go somewhere. But prefer to train inside during winter
I'm fairly sure that wasnt photoshopped. lighting matches really well. and the wood behind the bike also hardly casts any shadow
I have only one bike and that cost a fortune and its not even a quarter of the price of a pinarello f12. But i use it no matter what the weather. I trust the bike manufacturer has done their research to make sure the bike will last for a long time😊
With Ollie’s hair style, all I can see is “Denis the Menace”
Jeepers!
stylist went berserk with the hair product...
I voted for the Cannondale conversion, but I did really like the Peugeot rampant lion decal on the seat tube.
I ride a steel fixed gear. Not much to go wrong. Do wash it down after a funky weather ride.
Developing this theme can you do a GCN does science about the relative merits of winter training on fixed, single speed, and geared bikes. Which gives the greatest training benefit?
say: lasaGNe
now say: campaGNolo
I am 51 years old. I have three bikes, and I will never ride on a trainer. I don't want to win anything, but I love to ride my bike(s). I love to ride them in the winter as well. I live in South Korea near the sea, so the temperature almost never goes below -10C. It rains/snows sometimes in the winter, but I often find those are the best times to ride. I don't care about fitness because, like I sad I'm not trying to win anything, but riding in the wet and the snow is sometimes really fun. I walk my dogs in the rain and snow and they love it. I can't even conceive of riding on an indoor trainer where you can't see the beauty of the world around you. If you are a professional rider, OK, but if not, why?
Ahhh, yah......
...if you live in Ottawa, Canada. And if you do get a “winter”, bike, plan on replacing the rear hub once every couple of years. Whatever you do, don’t forget to cover every square centimetre of skin, so that you don’t lose any body parts to the -30+ C windchill. No wonder we’re so sparsely populated. 🇨🇦
Colombia and Bogota has 2 weathers rain cold, or cold about to rain, is not like summer is never land here but isn't the most summer experience, is the cold that wears you down hunts you and also make you wash your bike for sure at the end of every wet ride, so that's why I have 2 bikes, 1 big strong versatile CX bike that goes road and offroad, gravel, and my other bike my 'ligth' bike is linked to my kickr just in case, and when the sun comes strong we get the reward of a coffee ride.
Yes yes yes. Have 2. In lakes yesterday bike gritty 1st half mile by end 2 hours couldn't see colour bike frame and chain freshly oiled crunching. Versus riding Dura Ace SLR frameset hand build lightweights wheels. Errrrr no. 105 and Alu Trek all good
I only have one bike that I use in dry conditions , but recently bought a smart trainer. I really enjoy that I can ride indoors during the winter in cold and rainy Denmark 🌧️❄️😀
i love how strict Ollie is about the bike vault , stick yo your guns lad
Yes, yes you do. With mudguards and good all day lights.
I did buy a gravel bike for winter riding, here in The Netherlands the weather is as bad as it is in the UK.
My winter bike is a Ti cross bike, means I can ride the road or the off, can take wider tyres and mudguards.
Hi what is the make and model of light sitting underneath the wahoo? Thanks. 👍🏻 keep up the great work, love all things GCN. 🚴🏻♂️👌🏻
Live in Malaysia, no need for a winter bike! It's basically summer here 365 days a year.
You forgot to account for the occasional rainy season and our annual haze season courtesy of our lovely neighbour
@@NARUdaARC those are "rest days" 😅
Thank you Ollie for calculating to Swiss Francs! I'm that one Swiss guy who really appreciates it! ;-)
@10:51 Ollie smiles; did anyone just catch me picking my nose?
Bad weather definition: 355 days per year in UK
Hahahaha. Same here in Denmark 🤣🇩🇰
It's 10 months bad July Aug chancy. So 5/6th wank weather. Sorry for language
Just have the one bike. Cost prohibits me to get another bike along with the maintenance cost with another bike. As long as you at least spray down bike after each ride to wash off the salt and grime, clean chain after every few rides and a proper clean more regularly then you should be ok?
Hold that super nice line Ollie!! Dont get bullied into the super nices.
Ollie hates that BELL!
Need a dedicated winter bike which can fit studded winter tires for grip on snow and ice. I currently use a gravel bike, my previous was my old CX bike.
Bed your disc pads in properly, and they won't squeal. I ride 160mm rotors on my cross and commute/winter bike, in rainy Lancashire and rarely, if ever, get a squeal.
This is not Nam, this is cycling, there are rules!
Thanks to Ollie!
In Morocco, rainy days are like 10 days a year. I mean, if it's rainy today, you can cycle tomorrow.