This guy really takes this far, but the truth is that most Swedes visit the graves and fix the flowers and make it nice around the headstone and then lighting a candle and remembering the deceased. As so much else when it comes to religion we do “religious” things without being religious. It’s more as a nice and decent thing to do.
May be true statistically, but I don't know anyone who visits their ancestor's graves, we remember out parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles; the good (and bad) times, but we don't go to the graveyard for that. Could be an age thing or perhaps a city/countyside thing (me and my friends being from cities and between 30 and 60)
@@matshjalmarsson3008 I'm 33 and raised with visiting the graves every Alla helgona, and most people I've known have done the same. We light candles and place a wreath or flowers. Thing is now adays most of my family have moved away from where the graves are. Otherwise I would have kept doing it
I usually go to the minneslund and light a gravljus. Most of my relatives were laid to rest in the minneslund, and at least the grave yard near where I grew up had a specific spot for gravljus during allahelgona. This year, I won't be able to go because I am really sick. But I hope that someone else will light a candle for me too.
@@KimOfDrac Well I'm 23 years older, so that could be a reason. My parents and over all family and the relatives of my friends weren't hippies, but probably a bit "affected" by that movement, and they all were quite secular. People put flowes and lit candles, but usually when passing by, not on a specific day.
@@matshjalmarsson3008 I am almost your age and we have always gone to the graveyard every allhelgona to light candles. Most of the town is there, svenska kyrkan gives glögg and gingerbread and people of all ages go, the graveyard is lit up by all the candles. All ages go, from old people to kids. So I don't think it is a generation thing, it is a family thing (and maybe different in different places in the country).
I thought this was a bit odd video for this subject. Why not show how we celebrate it now? How every church yard you go by, have candles at every grave, and light the pathways with candles, and in the memorial gardens the grass turns to a full sea of candles....it's a very special sight to see. How we put up a candle in our window at home, and plant heather around the grave or outside our front door or garden. I hope you find videos that shows how it's really like.
It feels like he's trying to weave the history into the present as much as possible to make the clip longer and more mysterious? For the majority of Swedes (who are atheists/agnostics) the only thing we do on this day is to go and light a candle on the graves. Many people walk around the cemeteries in the evening just because it's pretty with all the lights too. I myself don't live in the same place as the graves I would normally visit, so I usually go into a church (even though I am not religious) and light a candle there, sit for a while and think about them and then I have "celebrated " the day. I don't know why I don't just light a candle at home? It just feels like I made more of an effort to "visit them" if I light the candle in a church when I can't go to the cemetery they are in?
Kids actually dress up as witches and go from house to house and exchange homemade gifts (usually drawings with Easter motifs) for treats during Easter in Sweden.
@@hachimaki Traditionally at Maundy Thursday (Skärtorsdag). ... and then they fly on brooms to Blåkulla outside Gotland in the evening where they dance with the Devil in the pale moonlight!
I remember doing this with my sister when we were younger. We spent the day painting and then, early evening, we went around to our neighbours wishing them a happy easter. 😄
I've never heard of flogging in any free church in Sweden, and I'm a member of the Pentacostle church myself. Allhelgona is all about remembering our loved ones that have passed, and we decorate the graves and light candles 😍
Yeah, same here! Never heard about it, and I have had friends or school friends or coworkers from all over Sweden from all kinds of churches, never heard of anyone ever doing it.
Same. While I have heard of the practice I've never ever heard of it still being done. Actually I do think I might have seen 1 person throw their arm back as if whipping themselves during prayer, but that's with normal clothes on and nothing in their hand and they don't even touch their own shoulder xD. I'll be needing proof before I take this as anything else than him trying to add more "wow factor" to the video.
Halloween has the exact same origin as All Saint's Day or All Hallow's Eve. In Celtic tradition, it was believed that the spirits pf the dead became more active around that time and that evil spirits had to be warded or scared off. Then, in America, Halloween was commercialized and turned into what we know it as today before being brought back to Europe.
My mom died when I Was 4 so Every Allahelgonadag we go to her grave with flowers and candels. We dont really go there any other Day exept on her bithday and The Day she died. So I really like this tradition!
Well I'm Swedish and I don't recognise anything in this video. What people need to understand is that most of us sweeds don't go to churches, we're not very religous. So what most of us do on Alla helgons dag is we go to the cemitary and we plant flowers on our loved ones grave and then we light candles and place them on the grave too. It's very, very beautiful when it gets dark and it's all lit up with candles
I recognise the allhelgonamässa, as an atheist it has been one of the only masses I have attended. (To support relatives or friends who has lost someone during the year). It is generally well attended.
Yeah, as a Swedish who was raised and is christian, christians in Sweden don't often talk about it either (and whether I go or not has changed over the years, but that has to do with problems with churches as organizations), and the people who are not christian but attend for their own reasons don't usually talk about it either, because it's private. So, I wouldn't generalize. Especially when it's a Swede that has clearly created the video...
You should visit the forest cemetary in Stockholm during all saints day. Skogskyrkogården. Actually of course there are Skogskyrkogård in many other locations too. But anyway, that’s a very beautiful sight, with hundreds of candles at night in the forest cemetary. I think Ingrid Bergman is buried there too.
Christmas has been celebrated in Sweden since long before Christianity came to Scandinavia. Christianity tried to take over the old festivals but often failed. Jelen is still called Jul in Swedish and we still celebrate Midsummer. The church twisted and turned its religion to make it fit with various existing holidays.
I grew up in a part of Sweden were free churches are everywhere, and I’ve been to many different ones. I have never heard about or seen self-flagellation in any of these churches.
Halloween is different but originally the same. Halloween is the American "development" of the Irish variation of it. Halloween is originally a short form of All Hallows' Eve (in Swedish Alla helgons afton) the day before All Hallows's day (in Swedish Alla helgons dag). Since the Catholic Church used it to assimilated local customs to the Church the celebration did have difference between different places to better assimilate the local pre-christian beliefs. Then the Irish brought their version to America and later American commercial interests did take that version and ran with it (some would say ran away with it).
Were I live there is a "ljusmässa" a Light mass on the saturday evening, Alla helgons dag. During this, the childrens choir are dressed in "lusselinnen" (the same dress as been worn at Lucia) and each child carries a burning candle (the small ones have electric candles) and they walk around the aisles of the church while singing about the light and the church lights are out during this. It's a more happy cermony. But on the Sunday, it's "Alla själars dag" All souls day, and there's dark and sad feeling in church. In my town the priest reads the names, as it was said in the video but at the same time the churchwarden lights a candle for each name and the candles are placed on a big wooden cross witch leans towards the altar ring. When every candle are lightened, the church bells rings for 5 minutes "själavanring. After the service, relatives can collect the candle with their loved one, the name is marked on the candle. During this wekend every church yard is glowing in the dark with candles at every grave, so so beautiful!
I don’t believe in any religion, but I still get a bit annoyed by people in Halloween costumes on the graveyard when I’m there to lit candles on my family grave. It’s so beautiful with all the candles in the dark, especially at Skogskyrkogården (Huge graveyard in Stockholm) People here are so confused when to celebrate Halloween, and they who wants to celebrate that want to do it on a weekend, so it clashes with our tradition. This video is beautiful , from All Saints’ Day , Skogskyrkogården. ruclips.net/video/Vki-E-_KQUo/видео.htmlsi=qr7tC9ORwAH6iGR8
Yeah, I always went trick or treating on the 31st of October unless it was a Saturday. If 31st and allahelgona were on the same day, I either went a few days earlier (on Thursday or Friday) or I didn't go at all.
We have something very simmilar in Lithuania. We have 2 hollidays - Velines (all souls day) and all saints day on the 1 and 2 of November. During these days we go visit and clean the graves of our departed family members, plant flowers, light candles and talk to them. Some people, my family included thake this time to clean forgotten graves and light candles on them too 🙂
No.. Halloween (Samhain) is an old British/Irish tradition to begin with. That survived in the US.. And was REimported to Europe from the US to Britain in modern times. It is the same with the American pronounciation/accent. It is an archaic version of 1600's British English that survived to modern age.. Kind of like how Icelandic is an Archaic version/pronounciation of Norwegian that has survived to modern age.
It survived in small places in Norrland, and Småland, but I don't think it survives to this day. It's been frowned upon in the church of Sweden for centuries.
@@StefanRixö Well, I live in southest of sweden and the sun sets -already now in october!! - at 16:30. And the sun sets earlier and erlier for every day until the 20th december. So weel, I would totally agree that it is dark here. And if you live in Kuruna, then it is total darknes in 28 days during december -january, and that! That is the darkest it can be.
Well, we Swedes are Lutheran (sort of) so we don't have Saints in the catholic sense. A bit simplified, everyone is a saint to us. So the all saints day is a memorial day for lost relatives.
Alla helgons dag is interesting. Swedes are in general not very religious. But on Alla helgons dag many Swedes go to the cemetery of to church and light candles put down flowers and spend some time. During Covid the Swedish national church even did a website where you could send in candle requests. Your candle showed up both digitally but someone working for the church then actually lighted all the candles people had requested. It was beautiful! Going to a cemetery during this holiday in Sweden is so so beautiful. And. In at least some churches they give away free fika to visitors. Candela and lights are important in all our celebrations during the darker months. This holiday is often shortly after we change from summer to wintertime. A time when we need lights the most. It’s a beautiful holiday
Well, regardless of any ancient odd behaviours, All saints weekend nowadays is when we remember our loved ones who have passed. It’s a time to visit the cemeteries and light candles on the graves and memorial sites. The dark evening is lit up by thousands of candles all over the country, it’s really beautiful and peaceful. You can actually also order (from the parish or an undertaker) candles being lit on your behalf if you’re not able to do it yourself.
Halloween (All Hallows Even, All Saints Day) came from Ireland. Head lanterns were carved out of beetroots, and drunk teenagers marched around demanding drinks.
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I’ll bring my family to the graves of our ancestors this day every year to remember and mourn our dead relatives! It is a great tradition yet peaceful! Cheers from Stockholm😀
Halloween is just an excuse to party in Sweden. We call it “Häll i vin” (pour in wine)😂 Actually we down in the south of Sweden have been making pumpkin heads for generations that we sat outside the house. But we did (some still do) them out of sugar beets with a candle in them and cut out eyes and mouth (sugar beets has been grown down here since way back). When I was a little kid, everyone did. This was on All Saints' Eve
It is a nice tradition but may become stressful if you don´t live close to the place. We visit sometimes when passing by that city but just for checking, not "remembering". My hubby´s auntie was so mad at him not visiting his mothers grave at her birthday (X-mas, ASDay, Easter and so on) and could not understand our explanation; we think of her/them almost every dag, we don´t need to go to the graveyard for that. I love to handicraft and my MIL was an excellent handicrafter, I often think of her and ask her for help when I sit with my knitting etc thinking "how should she be doing this". Same with my mum and dad, mum and my MIL never met my kids and that´s sad but I believe that they are still around, keeping an eye on us. I know I have two "helpers", a dog and a small older and little chubby woman but I´m not sure of who she is, anyway I´m happy that she is around. I think how we act considering our lost ones is a generation thing or due to your personal religious belief. I have my own thoughts about that and I think that many people do so today.
Swedish Lutheranism have always put weight on humbleness, work ethics and obedience to authorities. All holy days are supposed to be holy, revered and quiet worship. That's why we party on "eve's" like Christmas eve (24 of december) and quietly go to church on Christmas day (25th of december).
I am fram sweden and alla helgonas dag have been more known during my childhood, those growing up know have probebly never heard anything adout alla helgona dag because halloween are taking over. but for me: 36 y o, I rather light a canle on my relatives graves. And I am not rased religius, lighting a candle and remembering the dead relatives are not a religius thing in sweden - it is for all belivers or non belivers. I hope alla holgona dag is coming back more again! It's not completely gone! I like it! Its nice to think of those who have pased away. Thank you for the video!
If you don't take care of the grave or pay so the church can take care of it, the headstone can be removed from the cemetery. Same if you do not pay the "rent" to have a grave site.
According to the Funeral Act, everyone who is registered in Sweden is entitled to a free burial place for 25 years in the place where they were registered at the time of their death.
All Saints' Day is for all the unknown Saints which don't have their own day. Not specifically for martyrs. The day after is called All souls' day and is to commemorate all the dead people like family and friends.
Kind of flattering that a Brit shows interest in our maybe not so little country but still, what i find mostly to be weird is when one feels it personally. Not sure for how long it´s been around All Saint´s Day here but for as long as i can remember at least.
As others have said, most people who "celebrate" all saints aren't religious. Although, the all saints is the time of year that church attendance is highest in sweden. It's very special to go to a graveyard during all saints when there are lit candles everywhere. It's a beautiful way to remember the departed.
Today haloween is the last harvest the day before the winter and the saint ore loved ones has past..in memory for the people that no longer livs. its like halo day..mixed with haloween.
Halloween has only really been a thing in Sweden for the last 10-15 years. Before I used to be really against Halloween because it's like the opposite of the somber day "Allahelgona". But now I have soften at it and think it's nice as long as we don't forget Allahelgona. Unfortunately, I'll be working on allhelgona day. But I will be thinking about my dead grandmother and other dead family and friends. If I was free, I would go to the cemetery and light a candle.
Never seen or heard of anyone do the white clothes, do any selfharming during this holliday or be especially religious. But what we do is go to the cemetery and light candles and lights, wreths put at the graves. Since it’s so dark and all these candles glowing at the grave stones is a very beautiful light show (just white candles, not skittles) and the companionship of all these people being at the same place at the same time. We just remember our dead realatives. And we have grave stone both for burried and cremated people. You can only have like to burried persons and a family grave so later additions usully get creamated to share the space and get their name on the grave stone. You can also choose to be spread in the grounds of a specially beautiful part of the cemetery, then you do not know exaly where your realtive is, just the vesinity. Usally there is a pond or some other special water feature and plantings of threes and flowers. This way you still go to the cemetery but your relative is ”free” in nature in a beautiful place together with other peoples relatives…. I would say that though swedes are not that religious that energy and feeling a the cemetery this special saturday is very spiritual. I’m sad he did not have any pictures from a cemetery, beacause it’s quite magical. ❤❤❤🇸🇪
Being a non-religious guy myself, I can truthfully say I've never seen many of the things this video mentions. No special clothes, no flogging and no fasting. We used to make a pretty nice dinner, we put flowers and candles of the graves of those we want to remember, and we light that candle in chursh for the relatives we lost during the year. All in all a quiet event that suits a rather quiet part of the year well. And yes, Halloween feels like a strange newcomer to me. I experienced it for the first time when I lived in Canada in 1979, but then I didn't think much about it in the next 20+ years, and then it started showing up in Sweden. Also, the trick or treat thing is very similar to our easter traditions, where little kids were walking around their neightborhoods dressed as witches and asking for candy.
As a swede, I am in no Way Christian. But I do visit the graves of my grandparents in reverence of their memory each year on the first weekend of November. It’s just a matter of respect. It’s just something you do.
haha, thanks for this vid. I love to listen to you. I wish not to have an own graveyard, cause of the cost and both "gardening" of the grave for my sons to take care of it. So much better to be cremated, and you this special lot in the graveyard where you can visit and light a candle etc.
You talked about having conflicting thoughts between burial/cremation. I think that burials and gravestones are getting more and more uncommon nowadays. In the old days, when ppl didn't move around so much, you did have familygrave to go to. In todays society when we tend to move around more, it makes more sence to be cremated and put to rest in the memorial grove. Every Swedish cemetery have one and on the evening of All saints day, you can go to a memorial grove closest to where you live and light your candle.
You are wrong about where Halloween originally came from. Then that it has become a big thing in the US is another matter. This is what it says about Halloween: Halloween occurs on October 31 and has its origins in the Irish and Anglo-Saxon All hallow's eve. It was a Celtic autumn festival marking harvest time when fires were lit to guide the dead and scare away witches. Halloween is one of many examples of traditions that migrate and transform.
I'm swedish and I didn't even know that some free churches still practized flogging ._. they must be extremely quiet about it, because it sounds like something that would be written about in our papers. Especially if there are kids around in those churches.
Well the only thing we do and as I have heard people do(that do not go to church) is going to the graves of our loved ones. Lighting a candle and just be there and sending some thoughts to our loved ones. And of course looking at the graveyard with all of the thousands of candles all over it. It is pretty magical. 🙂And complain over all the cars and how we are gonna make it out again... 😂 I will be burned and put at some memorial place when I die. Feels nicest in my opinion 🙂
I feel a little ashamed that fewer people celebrate all Saints day because they think Halloween is the same thing. When I were a kid during the 90s nobody knew what it was but all saints day were all known.. now it's been mixed. Going insida a church It will be filled with candles and also the graveyards will be glowing and it's beautiful. I always light candles in the windows. In Sweden you pay for the space in the graveyards and if there's nobody who pays and you're forgotten you truly are -because your space in the ground is taken away for the next one.
I've thought about getting cremated, just to not have my children feeling they have to visit the grave, and so on. But recently I've come to the conclusion, that I'll leave that to them. I also told them that none of this is important to me. I won't be there. My soul will have left the moment I die. My body is just my 'suit' in this lifetime. Just put me in a Banana box, and shove it in the furnace, or .. if they rather have a grave to visit, choose the cheapest chest. Nothing fancy. I'm a simple person.
Every Sunday mass the priest mentions the people from the congregation that has passed in the last week and then there’s a silent minute and then everyone who wants to lights a candle, this is not a alla saints day thing.
Nowdays we swedes celebrate both halloween and all saints day Halloween become popular beacuse we saw americans do that and compaines use it and it came by the 90s Ps most of us swedes are not celebrate this holidays beacuse of religion but as a tradition and family time
Is it really a public holiday in sweden? Its on a saturday when most people are not working anyway (i know alot of people also work on saturdays) and because of the autumn break for the kids. So the swedish kids are always free on halloween because of that. I dont think a public holiday would make any sense.
Saturdays are not red days, however public holidays and Sundays are. Therefore, Allhelgonadagen (Friday) and Alla helgons dag (Saturday) are both public holidays, making them red days, as in Sundays.
Im from Sweden. My Mother and my dad is dead. My dad died 2005. I remember , we were Sitting and watching tv. We now that he was dying. Suddendly he Said to me. Do you know. We die two times. - what , did you say? I asked him. - well, you die. Nr 1. Then you die Nr 2. When nobody remember you, that you have lived. Ohhhh, pappa . …… - I think you are right, do Sad 😢. - Dont cry he Said, thats life. You cant do anything. Can you Pour some more ostbågar in the boul? Its stickning anoying betwen the tooth! Press play on the film!!! I Dont have time for pauses, and Then he have me a smerk? On his face 😏. Ok, pappa , ❤
Halloween comes from the Celtic Samhain, so it's Irish (British Isles). Should'nt a Brit know that?! It's been celebrated on your shores for centuaries. 😄😎🎃 By the way, weird original video. He sounds pretty extreme. Halloween is great and a lot of Swedes celebrate it. Those who celebrate All Saint's day can do that on that day, no competition. You can do both. Most people are not religious anyway. 😊
yes the swaztica have bean used sense the maya people 4000 years ago an it whas the sun wheel and you can se it in meny companys logos from early 19s to the fortys in every country, Adolf used it as a power sign after he had researth huge global comunitys used it. in north it whas round and in south it was square
My guess is that they changed from the 31st of October to November 1st because there are no other holidays in the autumn in Sweden, and they wanted to have an extra free day in this cold and dismal season. :P And the KKK costumes probably had the original purpose back in the day, but said purpose have been twisted and adapted to another person's ideas. And who are we to say anything against it when there is nothing else to disprove it? This is one thing which I strongly dislike about religion in general. Same purposes, but in different interpretations, and thus, the meanings change over time. And just like in politics, the strongest opinion will suffice!
@@MrBern91 It has not been moved to November 1. Nowadays, the first Saturday after (or on) October 31 is celebrated. This year it is therefore November 2. There will be no extra day off, as it is a Saturday.
I would hazard a guess that they moveed it to guarantee it always occurs during the weekend. Much like the moved midsummer back in the 50s (before that it was always on June 23rd).
Self-flagilation isn't done anymore, only a person that hasn't been part of a free church would think so. It's originally from putting yourself in the place if Jesus on the cross.
I don't think it's enough to say self-flagellation is uncommon. I would say it doesn't really exist at all; and if it does, it's some obscure cult type sh^t.
Couldn't watch all of it.. His voice like he's in a cult. 80 per cent of us are atheists/agnostic, i believe the remaining christians do this. I have an ex whose a devoted christian who did this but i dont know anyone else who visit the graves on alla helgona. I do know people tho whose lost someone who visit the grave on their birthday
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This guy really takes this far, but the truth is that most Swedes visit the graves and fix the flowers and make it nice around the headstone and then lighting a candle and remembering the deceased. As so much else when it comes to religion we do “religious” things without being religious. It’s more as a nice and decent thing to do.
May be true statistically, but I don't know anyone who visits their ancestor's graves, we remember out parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles; the good (and bad) times, but we don't go to the graveyard for that. Could be an age thing or perhaps a city/countyside thing (me and my friends being from cities and between 30 and 60)
@@matshjalmarsson3008 I'm 33 and raised with visiting the graves every Alla helgona, and most people I've known have done the same. We light candles and place a wreath or flowers. Thing is now adays most of my family have moved away from where the graves are. Otherwise I would have kept doing it
I usually go to the minneslund and light a gravljus. Most of my relatives were laid to rest in the minneslund, and at least the grave yard near where I grew up had a specific spot for gravljus during allahelgona.
This year, I won't be able to go because I am really sick. But I hope that someone else will light a candle for me too.
@@KimOfDrac Well I'm 23 years older, so that could be a reason. My parents and over all family and the relatives of my friends weren't hippies, but probably a bit "affected" by that movement, and they all were quite secular.
People put flowes and lit candles, but usually when passing by, not on a specific day.
@@matshjalmarsson3008 I am almost your age and we have always gone to the graveyard every allhelgona to light candles. Most of the town is there, svenska kyrkan gives glögg and gingerbread and people of all ages go, the graveyard is lit up by all the candles. All ages go, from old people to kids. So I don't think it is a generation thing, it is a family thing (and maybe different in different places in the country).
I thought this was a bit odd video for this subject. Why not show how we celebrate it now? How every church yard you go by, have candles at every grave, and light the pathways with candles, and in the memorial gardens the grass turns to a full sea of candles....it's a very special sight to see. How we put up a candle in our window at home, and plant heather around the grave or outside our front door or garden. I hope you find videos that shows how it's really like.
It feels like he's trying to weave the history into the present as much as possible to make the clip longer and more mysterious?
For the majority of Swedes (who are atheists/agnostics) the only thing we do on this day is to go and light a candle on the graves. Many people walk around the cemeteries in the evening just because it's pretty with all the lights too. I myself don't live in the same place as the graves I would normally visit, so I usually go into a church (even though I am not religious) and light a candle there, sit for a while and think about them and then I have "celebrated " the day. I don't know why I don't just light a candle at home? It just feels like I made more of an effort to "visit them" if I light the candle in a church when I can't go to the cemetery they are in?
Du kan besöka närmaste minneslund.
Kids actually dress up as witches and go from house to house and exchange homemade gifts (usually drawings with Easter motifs) for treats during Easter in Sweden.
@@hachimaki Traditionally at Maundy Thursday (Skärtorsdag).
... and then they fly on brooms to Blåkulla outside Gotland in the evening where they dance with the Devil in the pale moonlight!
Blå Jungfrun (Blåkulla) is actually outside Öland, not Gotland! The police station in Visby has been nicknamed "Blåkulla" though! 😁@@SteamboatW
I remember doing this with my sister when we were younger. We spent the day painting and then, early evening, we went around to our neighbours wishing them a happy easter. 😄
I've never heard of flogging in any free church in Sweden, and I'm a member of the Pentacostle church myself.
Allhelgona is all about remembering our loved ones that have passed, and we decorate the graves and light candles 😍
Yeah, same here! Never heard about it, and I have had friends or school friends or coworkers from all over Sweden from all kinds of churches, never heard of anyone ever doing it.
Same. While I have heard of the practice I've never ever heard of it still being done. Actually I do think I might have seen 1 person throw their arm back as if whipping themselves during prayer, but that's with normal clothes on and nothing in their hand and they don't even touch their own shoulder xD.
I'll be needing proof before I take this as anything else than him trying to add more "wow factor" to the video.
Halloween has the exact same origin as All Saint's Day or All Hallow's Eve. In Celtic tradition, it was believed that the spirits pf the dead became more active around that time and that evil spirits had to be warded or scared off. Then, in America, Halloween was commercialized and turned into what we know it as today before being brought back to Europe.
My mom died when I Was 4 so Every Allahelgonadag we go to her grave with flowers and candels. We dont really go there any other Day exept on her bithday and The Day she died. So I really like this tradition!
Well I'm Swedish and I don't recognise anything in this video. What people need to understand is that most of us sweeds don't go to churches, we're not very religous. So what most of us do on Alla helgons dag is we go to the cemitary and we plant flowers on our loved ones grave and then we light candles and place them on the grave too. It's very, very beautiful when it gets dark and it's all lit up with candles
I recognise the allhelgonamässa, as an atheist it has been one of the only masses I have attended. (To support relatives or friends who has lost someone during the year).
It is generally well attended.
Yeah, as a Swedish who was raised and is christian, christians in Sweden don't often talk about it either (and whether I go or not has changed over the years, but that has to do with problems with churches as organizations), and the people who are not christian but attend for their own reasons don't usually talk about it either, because it's private. So, I wouldn't generalize. Especially when it's a Swede that has clearly created the video...
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You should visit the forest cemetary in Stockholm during all saints day. Skogskyrkogården. Actually of course there are Skogskyrkogård in many other locations too. But anyway, that’s a very beautiful sight, with hundreds of candles at night in the forest cemetary. I think Ingrid Bergman is buried there too.
Norway also has allehelgensdag
Christmas has been celebrated in Sweden since long before Christianity came to Scandinavia. Christianity tried to take over the old festivals but often failed. Jelen is still called Jul in Swedish and we still celebrate Midsummer. The church twisted and turned its religion to make it fit with various existing holidays.
I grew up in a part of Sweden were free churches are everywhere, and I’ve been to many different ones. I have never heard about or seen self-flagellation in any of these churches.
Yeah, even though some free churches can be very strict, flogging is just unheard of.
Halloween is different but originally the same.
Halloween is the American "development" of the Irish variation of it.
Halloween is originally a short form of All Hallows' Eve (in Swedish Alla helgons afton) the day before All Hallows's day (in Swedish Alla helgons dag).
Since the Catholic Church used it to assimilated local customs to the Church the celebration did have difference between different places to better assimilate the local pre-christian beliefs.
Then the Irish brought their version to America and later American commercial interests did take that version and ran with it (some would say ran away with it).
Were I live there is a "ljusmässa" a Light mass on the saturday evening, Alla helgons dag. During this, the childrens choir are dressed in "lusselinnen" (the same dress as been worn at Lucia) and each child carries a burning candle (the small ones have electric candles) and they walk around the aisles of the church while singing about the light and the church lights are out during this. It's a more happy cermony. But on the Sunday, it's "Alla själars dag" All souls day, and there's dark and sad feeling in church. In my town the priest reads the names, as it was said in the video but at the same time the churchwarden lights a candle for each name and the candles are placed on a big wooden cross witch leans towards the altar ring. When every candle are lightened, the church bells rings for 5 minutes "själavanring. After the service, relatives can collect the candle with their loved one, the name is marked on the candle.
During this wekend every church yard is glowing in the dark with candles at every grave, so so beautiful!
OH! Wow! I have never heard of this! I am from Malmö, where are you from?
@@Ulv_en Hultsfred
I am Swedish. Have never heard about the white clothing 😮 nor that you whip yourself. 🫣
White clothing yes, whipping probably not. In ancient times perhaps.
As they said, it is a old tradition that almost no one practices anymore.
I don’t believe in any religion, but I still get a bit annoyed by people in Halloween costumes on the graveyard when I’m there to lit candles on my family grave.
It’s so beautiful with all the candles in the dark, especially at Skogskyrkogården (Huge graveyard in Stockholm)
People here are so confused when to celebrate Halloween, and they who wants to celebrate that want to do it on a weekend, so it clashes with our tradition.
This video is beautiful , from All Saints’ Day , Skogskyrkogården.
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Yeah, I always went trick or treating on the 31st of October unless it was a Saturday. If 31st and allahelgona were on the same day, I either went a few days earlier (on Thursday or Friday) or I didn't go at all.
My father died 30 years ago and my husband died 14 years ago and I go to the cemetery every year and lit candles on their graves on all saints day.🕯
We have something very simmilar in Lithuania. We have 2 hollidays - Velines (all souls day) and all saints day on the 1 and 2 of November. During these days we go visit and clean the graves of our departed family members, plant flowers, light candles and talk to them. Some people, my family included thake this time to clean forgotten graves and light candles on them too 🙂
No.. Halloween (Samhain) is an old British/Irish tradition to begin with. That survived in the US.. And was REimported to Europe from the US to Britain in modern times. It is the same with the American pronounciation/accent. It is an archaic version of 1600's British English that survived to modern age.. Kind of like how Icelandic is an Archaic version/pronounciation of Norwegian that has survived to modern age.
I have never seen or heard of any free churches practicing flogging in Sweden. Sounds like he made a bad googling
It survived in small places in Norrland, and Småland, but I don't think it survives to this day. It's been frowned upon in the church of Sweden for centuries.
Trick or treating is not really a thing in sweden. Kids TRY to make it a thing though xD But for years now, no kid has knocked on our door for candy
@@MewDenise I would redirect them to Maundy Thursday if they did.
Sweden is a dark country, so we really like our candles.
'Dark country' Nope....
yes!! This is true! All reasons to light a candle from october to Mars!
@@StefanRixö Well, I live in southest of sweden and the sun sets -already now in october!! - at 16:30. And the sun sets earlier and erlier for every day until the 20th december. So weel, I would totally agree that it is dark here. And if you live in Kuruna, then it is total darknes in 28 days during december -january, and that! That is the darkest it can be.
@Ulv_en och när våren och sommaren kommer så är det ljust...
Well, we Swedes are Lutheran (sort of) so we don't have Saints in the catholic sense. A bit simplified, everyone is a saint to us. So the all saints day is a memorial day for lost relatives.
We celebrate our loved ones that has left us, we meet family and go to the graves of our lost, we put flowers, and candles 🕯️
Alla helgons dag is interesting. Swedes are in general not very religious. But on Alla helgons dag many Swedes go to the cemetery of to church and light candles put down flowers and spend some time. During Covid the Swedish national church even did a website where you could send in candle requests. Your candle showed up both digitally but someone working for the church then actually lighted all the candles people had requested. It was beautiful! Going to a cemetery during this holiday in Sweden is so so beautiful. And. In at least some churches they give away free fika to visitors. Candela and lights are important in all our celebrations during the darker months. This holiday is often shortly after we change from summer to wintertime. A time when we need lights the most. It’s a beautiful holiday
Well, regardless of any ancient odd behaviours, All saints weekend nowadays is when we remember our loved ones who have passed. It’s a time to visit the cemeteries and light candles on the graves and memorial sites. The dark evening is lit up by thousands of candles all over the country, it’s really beautiful and peaceful. You can actually also order (from the parish or an undertaker) candles being lit on your behalf if you’re not able to do it yourself.
Even if we are not believers, we still honour the dead. It's more about showing that we recognize love lost. And that's family love.
Halloween (All Hallows Even, All Saints Day) came from Ireland. Head lanterns were carved out of beetroots, and drunk teenagers marched around demanding drinks.
Yes, hallogeene (my spelling) is certainly an import from the USA, but they got it from Ireland back in the 1700s.
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100% agree! 👏💯🇸🇪
I’ll bring my family to the graves of our ancestors this day every year to remember and mourn our dead relatives!
It is a great tradition yet peaceful!
Cheers from Stockholm😀
Halloween is just an excuse to party in Sweden. We call it “Häll i vin” (pour in wine)😂
Actually we down in the south of Sweden have been making pumpkin heads for generations that we sat outside the house. But we did (some still do) them out of sugar beets with a candle in them and cut out eyes and mouth (sugar beets has been grown down here since way back). When I was a little kid, everyone did. This was on All Saints' Eve
Finland & Estonia used to be Swedish territorium before
Today its popular to have a catshy stone with a messege..
So, Dwayne, when I say that you're a good person and a saint - as a lutheran I mean it literally. 😂
It is a nice tradition but may become stressful if you don´t live close to the place. We visit sometimes when passing by that city but just for checking, not "remembering". My hubby´s auntie was so mad at him not visiting his mothers grave at her birthday (X-mas, ASDay, Easter and so on) and could not understand our explanation; we think of her/them almost every dag, we don´t need to go to the graveyard for that. I love to handicraft and my MIL was an excellent handicrafter, I often think of her and ask her for help when I sit with my knitting etc thinking "how should she be doing this". Same with my mum and dad, mum and my MIL never met my kids and that´s sad but I believe that they are still around, keeping an eye on us. I know I have two "helpers", a dog and a small older and little chubby woman but I´m not sure of who she is, anyway I´m happy that she is around. I think how we act considering our lost ones is a generation thing or due to your personal religious belief. I have my own thoughts about that and I think that many people do so today.
Swedish Lutheranism have always put weight on humbleness, work ethics and obedience to authorities.
All holy days are supposed to be holy, revered and quiet worship. That's why we party on "eve's" like Christmas eve (24 of december) and quietly go to church on Christmas day (25th of december).
I am fram sweden and alla helgonas dag have been more known during my childhood, those growing up know have probebly never heard anything adout alla helgona dag because halloween are taking over. but for me: 36 y o, I rather light a canle on my relatives graves. And I am not rased religius, lighting a candle and remembering the dead relatives are not a religius thing in sweden - it is for all belivers or non belivers. I hope alla holgona dag is coming back more again! It's not completely gone! I like it! Its nice to think of those who have pased away. Thank you for the video!
yes whe have easter when kids collect candy as the haloween
@20:14 Preach! God damn I haven't though about that before. That observation changed my view a bit.
9:48 Of course it's weird, it's religion. It wasn't always as watered down as it is now.
If you don't take care of the grave or pay so the church can take care of it, the headstone can be removed from the cemetery. Same if you do not pay the "rent" to have a grave site.
According to the Funeral Act, everyone who is registered in Sweden is entitled to a free burial place for 25 years in the place where they were registered at the time of their death.
Damn! You put up like 2-3 videos/day lately.. lol thats ALOT =)
All Saints' Day is for all the unknown Saints which don't have their own day. Not specifically for martyrs.
The day after is called All souls' day and is to commemorate all the dead people like family and friends.
Kind of flattering that a Brit shows interest in our maybe not so little country but still, what i find mostly to be weird is when one feels it personally.
Not sure for how long it´s been around All Saint´s Day here but for as long as i can remember at least.
As others have said, most people who "celebrate" all saints aren't religious. Although, the all saints is the time of year that church attendance is highest in sweden. It's very special to go to a graveyard during all saints when there are lit candles everywhere. It's a beautiful way to remember the departed.
Today haloween is the last harvest the day before the winter and the saint ore loved ones has past..in memory for the people that no longer livs. its like halo day..mixed with haloween.
Halloween has only really been a thing in Sweden for the last 10-15 years. Before I used to be really against Halloween because it's like the opposite of the somber day "Allahelgona". But now I have soften at it and think it's nice as long as we don't forget Allahelgona.
Unfortunately, I'll be working on allhelgona day. But I will be thinking about my dead grandmother and other dead family and friends. If I was free, I would go to the cemetery and light a candle.
You should look into minnes lundar (memory gardens) it’s a common way of burial in Sweden nowadays
Bless you! :) or Prosit! like we would say in Sweden when someone sneezes.
Never seen or heard of anyone do the white clothes, do any selfharming during this holliday or be especially religious. But what we do is go to the cemetery and light candles and lights, wreths put at the graves. Since it’s so dark and all these candles glowing at the grave stones is a very beautiful light show (just white candles, not skittles) and the companionship of all these people being at the same place at the same time. We just remember our dead realatives. And we have grave stone both for burried and cremated people. You can only have like to burried persons and a family grave so later additions usully get creamated to share the space and get their name on the grave stone. You can also choose to be spread in the grounds of a specially beautiful part of the cemetery, then you do not know exaly where your realtive is, just the vesinity. Usally there is a pond or some other special water feature and plantings of threes and flowers. This way you still go to the cemetery but your relative is ”free” in nature in a beautiful place together with other peoples relatives…. I would say that though swedes are not that religious that energy and feeling a the cemetery this special saturday is very spiritual. I’m sad he did not have any pictures from a cemetery, beacause it’s quite magical. ❤❤❤🇸🇪
Being a non-religious guy myself, I can truthfully say I've never seen many of the things this video mentions. No special clothes, no flogging and no fasting. We used to make a pretty nice dinner, we put flowers and candles of the graves of those we want to remember, and we light that candle in chursh for the relatives we lost during the year. All in all a quiet event that suits a rather quiet part of the year well.
And yes, Halloween feels like a strange newcomer to me. I experienced it for the first time when I lived in Canada in 1979, but then I didn't think much about it in the next 20+ years, and then it started showing up in Sweden. Also, the trick or treat thing is very similar to our easter traditions, where little kids were walking around their neightborhoods dressed as witches and asking for candy.
So humble. I realy like your way of seeing things. 🫶🏼
Now. At friday november first there is Allhelgonadagen. And at saturday november 2 its Alla helgons dag.
Alla helgons dag 😊
Mm. Not a right in "Allehelgensdag".
A simple googling gives this in bold as first result.
And not only that, at 0:26 it says it in plain text.
As a swede, I am in no Way Christian. But I do visit the graves of my grandparents in reverence of their memory each year on the first weekend of November. It’s just a matter of respect. It’s just something you do.
Halloween = All hallow eve/Samhain is a celtic celebration that the irish imported to USA.
haha, thanks for this vid. I love to listen to you. I wish not to have an own graveyard, cause of the cost and both "gardening" of the grave for my sons to take care of it. So much better to be cremated, and you this special lot in the graveyard where you can visit and light a candle etc.
You talked about having conflicting thoughts between burial/cremation. I think that burials and gravestones are getting more and more uncommon nowadays. In the old days, when ppl didn't move around so much, you did have familygrave to go to. In todays society when we tend to move around more, it makes more sence to be cremated and put to rest in the memorial grove. Every Swedish cemetery have one and on the evening of All saints day, you can go to a memorial grove closest to where you live and light your candle.
You are wrong about where Halloween originally came from. Then that it has become a big thing in the US is another matter. This is what it says about Halloween: Halloween occurs on October 31 and has its origins in the Irish and Anglo-Saxon All hallow's eve. It was a Celtic autumn festival marking harvest time when fires were lit to guide the dead and scare away witches. Halloween is one of many examples of traditions that migrate and transform.
I'm swedish and I didn't even know that some free churches still practized flogging ._. they must be extremely quiet about it, because it sounds like something that would be written about in our papers. Especially if there are kids around in those churches.
I´m gangsta brother. 😅 I´ll remove the "clown" remark myself, lighten up lol.
Well the only thing we do and as I have heard people do(that do not go to church) is going to the graves of our loved ones. Lighting a candle and just be there and sending some thoughts to our loved ones. And of course looking at the graveyard with all of the thousands of candles all over it. It is pretty magical. 🙂And complain over all the cars and how we are gonna make it out again... 😂
I will be burned and put at some memorial place when I die. Feels nicest in my opinion 🙂
I'm swedish and never heard if any "free church" flogging. That's nonsense in my ears. Please don't jump to conclusions to easely
Thank you!
Totally Agree!
Interesting. Born in Sweden live in Sweden. I only new light a candle att home or on someone's grave. I'm over 40.
Myself cannot go there 100% yet. Its weird how we are about death with your closest, family.
Thanks for the story about Allahelgona :)
The all saints day are quite same at least nordics as well as eastern, christmas and midsummrerday. Probaly all. And Estonia, Denmark, Germany and....
They just said that halloween is from Irland in the video
I feel a little ashamed that fewer people celebrate all Saints day because they think Halloween is the same thing. When I were a kid during the 90s nobody knew what it was but all saints day were all known.. now it's been mixed.
Going insida a church It will be filled with candles and also the graveyards will be glowing and it's beautiful. I always light candles in the windows.
In Sweden you pay for the space in the graveyards and if there's nobody who pays and you're forgotten you truly are -because your space in the ground is taken away for the next one.
Here in sweden you can have a grave site if you have been cremated.
I've thought about getting cremated, just to not have my children feeling they have to visit the grave, and so on. But recently I've come to the conclusion, that I'll leave that to them. I also told them that none of this is important to me. I won't be there. My soul will have left the moment I die. My body is just my 'suit' in this lifetime. Just put me in a Banana box, and shove it in the furnace, or .. if they rather have a grave to visit, choose the cheapest chest. Nothing fancy. I'm a simple person.
Every Sunday mass the priest mentions the people from the congregation that has passed in the last week and then there’s a silent minute and then everyone who wants to lights a candle, this is not a alla saints day thing.
Brits used to do this too. Always. Why don't you any more?
Nowdays we swedes celebrate both halloween and all saints day
Halloween become popular beacuse we saw americans do that and compaines use it and it came by the 90s
Ps most of us swedes are not celebrate this holidays beacuse of religion but as a tradition and family time
Is it really a public holiday in sweden? Its on a saturday when most people are not working anyway (i know alot of people also work on saturdays) and because of the autumn break for the kids. So the swedish kids are always free on halloween because of that. I dont think a public holiday would make any sense.
Saturdays are not red days, however public holidays and Sundays are. Therefore, Allhelgonadagen (Friday) and Alla helgons dag (Saturday) are both public holidays, making them red days, as in Sundays.
@@johananas8407 i am pretty sure friday is not a red day. Saturday seams to be a red day.
@@erikstenviken2652 I was going off what my phone said, but apparently it’s wrong 😅 but yes, Alla helgons dag is a red day.
is in it skördefesten? halloween is irish
I´am getting cremated and thrown into the ocean. From water I came, to water I return!
Im from Sweden. My Mother and my dad is dead. My dad died 2005. I remember , we were Sitting and watching tv. We now that he was dying. Suddendly he Said to me. Do you know. We die two times. - what , did you say? I asked him. - well, you die. Nr 1. Then you die Nr 2. When nobody remember you, that you have lived. Ohhhh, pappa . …… - I think you are right, do Sad 😢. - Dont cry he Said, thats life. You cant do anything. Can you Pour some more ostbågar in the boul? Its stickning anoying betwen the tooth! Press play on the film!!! I Dont have time for pauses, and Then he have me a smerk? On his face 😏. Ok, pappa , ❤
I intend to be embalmed in a silly pose and put in a museum, sort of like Lenin. That way parents can use me as a discouraging example for their kids.
"Frikyrkor" are pentecostal churches. just a translation...
Halloween comes from the Celtic Samhain, so it's Irish (British Isles). Should'nt a Brit know that?! It's been celebrated on your shores for centuaries. 😄😎🎃
By the way, weird original video. He sounds pretty extreme. Halloween is great and a lot of Swedes celebrate it. Those who celebrate All Saint's day can do that on that day, no competition. You can do both. Most people are not religious anyway. 😊
I don't celebrate Halloween. I celebrate alla själarnas dag.
No its not still done😮
yes the swaztica have bean used sense the maya people 4000 years ago an it whas the sun wheel and you can se it in meny companys logos from early 19s to the fortys in every country, Adolf used it as a power sign after he had researth huge global comunitys used it. in north it whas round and in south it was square
I want to be spred in the sea were I was borne ❤
Gave me a smerk 😅
We dont want halloween in Sweden.
Great job 2024
I am swedish and I just think of my pasted loved ones on alla helgonas dag. I don’t care about christianty
My guess is that they changed from the 31st of October to November 1st because there are no other holidays in the autumn in Sweden, and they wanted to have an extra free day in this cold and dismal season. :P
And the KKK costumes probably had the original purpose back in the day, but said purpose have been twisted and adapted to another person's ideas. And who are we to say anything against it when there is nothing else to disprove it? This is one thing which I strongly dislike about religion in general. Same purposes, but in different interpretations, and thus, the meanings change over time. And just like in politics, the strongest opinion will suffice!
@@MrBern91 It has not been moved to November 1. Nowadays, the first Saturday after (or on) October 31 is celebrated. This year it is therefore November 2. There will be no extra day off, as it is a Saturday.
I would hazard a guess that they moveed it to guarantee it always occurs during the weekend. Much like the moved midsummer back in the 50s (before that it was always on June 23rd).
@@olsa76Saturday was still a half working day up until the seventies, so they decided on a Saturday to get a long weekend
Self-flagilation isn't done anymore, only a person that hasn't been part of a free church would think so. It's originally from putting yourself in the place if Jesus on the cross.
I don't think it's enough to say self-flagellation is uncommon. I would say it doesn't really exist at all; and if it does, it's some obscure cult type sh^t.
Today if your not taking care of the grave they will take it out for someone else.. so please take care,
I so don't like Halloween, keep that tradition where it came from.
Noo never seen it that anyone have put them self in pain and I am 52 years old. So no we dont practice this anymore.
I’d guess that flogging nowadays would be small “free churches” that tend to be more similar to closed Christian sects. We do not support the sects.
Religion is ignorance, cuz nobody knows. You don't need priests. Your imagination is as good as anything.
Couldn't watch all of it.. His voice like he's in a cult. 80 per cent of us are atheists/agnostic, i believe the remaining christians do this. I have an ex whose a devoted christian who did this but i dont know anyone else who visit the graves on alla helgona.
I do know people tho whose lost someone who visit the grave on their birthday