Chamfering Block Build
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- In this video we build a chamfering block for use on the surface grinder. This speeds up the tedious operation of grinding precision chamfers on hardened parts. We modify the design so no grinding or heat treating is needed. A simple project that saves huge amounts of time.
nice! will make one! I use a big magnetic v block but this saves a ton of time not having to wheel a grinder up and down. and now maybe all my chamfers might even be the same size!
You'll finally be able to keep your chamfer drawer full!
A video we can look forward to‽
Dont you have a cnc mill to be working on Tony haha
From the looks of your fingernails you already have one and use it to do your nails.....
All the best,
Tom
Stefan has a chamfering tool that uses a V block with a slot clamped to a router, but that would have a lot more trouble with hardened steel.
so nice to have you back with regular videos. Thank you.
Excellent. Genius. I reckon give it away to an apprentice. Only apprentices can put their name in for it. People that have their own surface grinder should be making their own.
Great job Tom 👏 👍 Silent auction to support your channel.
I'm a woodchuck and love that you embraced the dark side by using the hand plane. :D
I really like working Delrin. Thanks for the video Tom, I always look forward to them.
Hey Steve,
Thanks for stopping by. Delrin beats working with concrete blocks.......
Cheers,
Tom
@@oxtoolco Yeah😁
Appreciated the threat to debur with the Lie-Nielsen...as a loyal viewer of the sawdust persuasion you remain the only creator in my experience to take a hand held router and a carbide ro bit to a piece of mild steel...and pull it off I might add! Thanks for all you do and for keeping me smiling.
I saw this tool in the last video and added it to my list of things to make. You either make me buy something or build something. Insidious. Nice trick with the 246 block.
As a woodchuck, I'm proud to see the use you're getting out of the block plane! When I started woodworking I was all about finding the best, most efficient way to use power tools to complete a task. But I've come to learn that there are so many tasks that can be completed easier, faster, and with as-good, if not better results, with quality hand tools. Any new and novel use for a tool only increases that tools value.
Cool project. I did notice the upper "bar" flexed while being used. Silent auction!
Might have to add a stiffener for the plastic version. Thanks I'll go back and look at the video a little closer.
Cheers,
Tom
@@oxtoolco A simple 10c aluminum brace across the top may well have been advisable. but dude. Wheres my car? Acetyl - putting the Cety in Al. ;)
I'm seeing the same thing, specially when @oxtoolco increased the size of the chamfer.
Now i can chamfer all my gage blocks!
Can't you just drop them on the floor like most people?
@@ExtantFrodo2 Then use a oil stone to make them flat again.....
@@4GSR that takes forever, man. Seriously, just 20 or 30 seconds on a grinding wheel fixes them right up. Just hold on to them or they'll go flying mucking up all your hard work. 😜
GRIPTION! I first heard that word over three decades ago, before I knew what a neologism was.
Thanks for the smile, and thanks for your work.
A very useful fixture! Contacted for a drawing!
I''m in the shop right now taking a break in between making chips and now I get a Lipton vid for my break? Life is too sweet.
Taking a break from work to watch someone else work
Coffee?
Thank you so much, you are fueling my love of the craft right now. I will be taking your chamfer tool project to my college to make and creat a lesson plan for De Anza Design & Manufacturing Department. I think this is a great project. Also I want one for my new job as a machinist in San Jose, Ca. I have gone from Realtor to Machinist Newbie in 6 months flat. Just a vet finding a place to fit in again with some inspiration from your channel. Thank you again for paying it forward to us younger guys getting in to it. That is not always easy to find.
I love using my Record plane on Delrin. I have had good luck by skewing the plane about 15 Degrees. That way the edge doesn't hit the saw marks straight on. But using a plane on Delrin is oddly satisfying. Once I get the bite set it is great. Push and Robert Is Your Father's Brother.
Bruce Allen and Fany is your Aunt lol
Ah, yet another great vid from Mr. Lipton. Best way to end a monday, thanks Tom. As to who should get the new tool? Who deserves it?? Silent Auction?? Hmmm... How about a quiz, where you ask a bit of machinery based trivia that is rarely known at best, and whomever can figure it out wins the teddy.
Or better yet, just say " oh never mind all that folks" and let me get my grubby hands on it!😉
Nice block plane. I suspect most woodchucks rolled their eyes at that tiny little plane. Not really a size most would have any use for but sure is cute. Also perfectly fine too cut plastic with it.
It's wrong how awesome your projects are. But here we are, universe improved; one chamfer at a time. Thanks Tom, make waking up at 4am utterly worthwhile.
Very well organized procedure.Thank you
Make your own youtube video contest......everyone makes a short video of a simple project they do in their shop and you pick your favorite one......you work to build it we work to earn it.....love the videos thanks tom.....if it wasnt for you machinists taking the time to make these videos I'd still be burning up endmills in reverse......I even made a couple crappy videos thanks agian
Hit the Button years ago and haven't looked back.... Another interesting video.. Thanks.
After seeing the last video, I was hoping you’d show more about this tool and was extremely happy to see you’re making one, Thanks
I noticed the KE-55 at the beginning of the video, those are great machines and so simple to run!
Pretty cool. If you don't have a grinder an alternative is to make a v cut into a block of delrin, drill a hole down through the block half way down the V, take a broken quarter inch endmill, grind the endmill flat, then grind half of it away at the end, then grind a relief, put the cutter in the hole so it so it can cut a chamfer as you push stock along it. you can add set screws for adjustment and tightening the cutter
That's a handy little tool.
On the last cutout of the plastic how about coming in at the middle and work outward in both directions to preserve as much supporting material for as long as possible? That might minimize the vibration you spoke of.
Tom, I appreciate your quality work and instruction. I'm so happy to see more videos from you and Robin these days. Thanks for sharing!
How about using it to challenge other creators? Would love to see other creators build a chamfering machine that would work with a bench grinder, or mill, or some other way that we haven't thought of. Cheers friend.
Nicely done! Great video. Thanks for sharing
So great having you back on a regular basis Tom!
I've always found that heavy cuts in Delrin are a great way to create a quality Lenny Kravits Halloween wig! :o)
While I'd LOVE to have a Lipton original in my tool collection some day, I think you might auction it off and support a worthy charity.
As a woodchuck, I love seeing you use that beloved Lee Nielsen plane. It isn't like Delryn is any harder than rock maple. I use Starrett stuff for woodchucking. 😁😁😁
What a cool little fixture.
A thought, as I and prob a few here don't have a surface grinder; could one use a small axial grinding wheel in a mill and have a similar fixture? The Y axis used to set the depth of the chamfer.
Hi Tom, I was looking at your back wall as you were milling the Felton block. I was thinking if you reversed the two mill handles you would spell out OX. Just a thought.Stefan
Cool project..very thanks for your time
Oh boy! I would have loved this a few years ago! I was always so entranced by Rob Renz's ChamferMeister but I never worked how to make my own. This would be great if you had a surface grinder. I can just CNC the chamfers now and even use 3d toolpaths for multi-axis fillets and all sorts of complex geometry, but this is a lovely solution.
Although your videos are not as dynamic as some...they are as they say in the tin...what they are. If I had access to the equipment these would be the type of video I would use to learn from. So from me I give you the major thumbs up for useful and watchable RUclips material.
suggestion
I could see some significant bowing on the plastic part right at the top middle. That would result in wider chamfers as you apply higher pressure. I would advise you to make that top portion of the plastic jig out of steel. Hold it down with two screws similar to how you did the bottom. just section it off at the "V" valley parallel to the bottom.
Looks like a handy surface grinder device. Thanks for the video Tom.
In the video I can see the thin part of the chamfer block bow slightly as you slide your part across it.That might explain the inconsistent chamfer depth.
Hey Doug. After looking at the chamfers they were the same size. I think there was a burr on that edge that made it sound like it was cutting heavier. Psyched me out for a minute.
Cheers,
Tom
Good catch!
Some of us just like to see how things are made. The odds of me ever using any metal head machines is pretty low but I still like to see how it’s done.
Nice. I guess This Old does not want to ask for your block but maybe we should let have it so he can continue on his Maho 🤣
I noticed "Van Bebber" engraved on the fly cutter. I actually got some tools from a local guy here in the Netherlands named "Wim van Bebber". Would be a coincidence if that was family ;-)
That is a great tool. When I make mine I will probably add a small steel flatbar across the top, single screw in each end and maybe one in the center, to keep the top bar from flexing.
Great video. I’m going to try to make one out of aluminum. Keep the good videos coming
That will work great. Get it hard anodized and it will last for years.
Cheers,
Tom
Simple solution to what to do with your extra unit - send it to me!
Keep up the great work on the videos!
Thanks for following through with a build of this tool. I think I will use aluminum in lieu of Delrin since I have a chunk.
Nicely done Tom! Very handy piece.
I just finished the Dotco chamfermeister attachment.
ATB, Robin
That black slab reminded me of the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey". You could have played "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" as background music, that would have been cool. :-)
Thanks Tom for your posts! I am a new subscriber and enjoy your content!
Channel support/Raffle, Please Tell Mrs. Lipton The art is Phenomenal!! It caused a new fire inside which I thought I had lost.
Thank you sir for your time
Seems like a version of this for a bench grinder would be ideal. The Kurt 3600v is great, you can get a square right up next to it, and you can mount it on it's side. Aside from the additional expense, I don't know why anyone gets the old style.
Delrin is such good stuff.
I know your loving that little planer
Nice tool Tom.
Perhaps a door prize for the Bar-Z virtual bash or maybe auction it off and donate the money to Meals on Wheels?
Thanks for the great video. It provided me a great distraction from studying for a final exam I have in a couple of days.
Now I'll have to make one of these to chamfer the adjustable v-block parts!!
If you wanted to extend the life of the tool you could ad a peice of metal where the sparks hit the delrin in the form of copper or aluminium tape or a machined peice. Great video I do like working with delrin to make soft fixtures for my tabletop cnc
Love that Marvel saw. We had one of those in the Engineering Lab machine shop I worked in at Boeing. It was fantastic.
Very nice Tom 👌
Thanks Tom for another great tool making project, another one to add to the list. Keep them coming. Cheers, Craig
Thanks I was hoping you would have a video of this being made.....silent auction to support your channel!
You're a cool dude. Appreciate your willingness to transfer knowledge.
I vote for you to send it to Abom79 since he just acquired his first surface grinder.
Thanks for the video of this, Tom. Mystery unveiled. This will go toward the top of my to do list! Cheers, avantgeared
I always did my chamfering with a magnetic vee block. I eventually made 45°, 30°, 15°, 10° and 1 through 5°. They also worked nice for doing ground angles on hardened parts.
I have a real aversion to hold parts by hand near rotating equipment.
Burr beaver on steroids!! Maybe you should have a test for the winner of the block.
Do you remember where you found the spiffy tweezers you carry always? I need a air or three. They appear good to excellent quality
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Love the V blocks and now this one you should think about going in business making these kind of tools
I would make the steel version, great idea. From time to time I do make a lot of small D2 blocks & the 12 edge beveling can be slow. So thanks for the idea.
Very useful tool. That was nice intro for new viewers.
Thanks Tom
That gives me a great idea for the tool grinder since I don't have a surface grinder!!
Now I want to have a surface grinder even more!
Looks like a good candidate for 3D printing. Will have a go and see. Love the idea Tom.
Using a fly cutter with the diameter just a little larger than your biggest grinding wheel to do the cutout would leave a little more material on the back of the block
Is there any way you could get the same effect without the surface grinder, same consistence, but with just a mill , lathe and pillar drill? Or should I just hack as I have done with the linnisher?
"Gription" one of the technical specifications by which toilet seats are rated! 🤣😂😂
Easy and pretty. I will make one in Belarus.
I really like the insert jaws...
That top part that was vibrating when you milled it may flex as you move the parts across the wheel, which may explain why you hard more of a chamfer on that edge you were questioning. Maybe you could mount a plate across the top to keep that plastic from bowing if you press the part into the wheel too hard.
This would be useful on the mill also. I noticed some comments were people said that they saw the plastic bow at the top. One could make a reinforcement plate out of steel for the top.
Love it! Will have to make one. I’d suggest that you take nominations from your subscribers for a worthy machinist to give it to. I nominate Don Garringer
That's really cool! I'll make a modified version for my belt grinder.
Thanks for sharing
Awesome stuff Tom, but I will wait for Robin's Ultimate Chamfering Machine :) RUCM :p
All The Best Tom, Robin, Tony and every other machinist here!!
I think you should do either the silent auction or the raffle.
I just wanna say: That "dimple" at the front edge of your "thumb-plane" is ACTUALLY for you're FORE-finger!! LOL!! (And I highly doubt, that phenolic is nearly as hard as Ipe (ee-pay) or "balau" so, that planer edge is just fine!! I've even used mine to "cham-fere" aluminum! (al-u-minium)! Awesome work as USUAL..
Mr. Lipton, it may seem insignificant to you but would you please show what appears to be you coolant system on your mill? I am curious about your coolant which you store in what appears to be a repurposed soda bottle.
I never thought to use a hand plane on delrin, looks like a good idea.
Why didnt you turn your square 90° and use the top of the jaw on the vice when you squared that block standing on its end
11:13 Woodworkers and machinists are natural enemies. Like engineers and machinists. Or welders and machinists. Or millrights and machinists. Or machinists and other machinists. Damn machinists they ruined machining!
Thanks for sharing. Really saves time. The right tool for the welder.
This attachment can be adapted to the bench grinder.
Can be made from getinax or dense wood?
Keep em both, theyll make sweet book ends or a kick ass napkin holder when moms in town.
Thanks for another entry to my growing Novel ( no longer a list) of tools, jigs, and gadgets to make. Keep em coming. Thanks for your time.
The black delrin would make a really good imitation surface plate.
Didn’t want to fill the Marvell with delrin sawing out the 45 degree chunk?
I did think about it.
Cheers,
Tom
You can see when you're using it that the top little bracket piece is bowing slightly, that's why a few of the chamfs were uneven.
Thanks for the video 🙏 with your little carpenters planer, if you machine a very small 90 degree v into the middle it may help keep it square to the part for deburring
I think all the woodchucks would be at my door with pitchforks and torches if I machined a groove in the sole.
Cheers,
Tom
That is a very expensive tool, considering its size. ($100) It's not one you pick up at home depot.
Tom probably couldn't see it while he was doing it but in the close up from the camera's point of view, you could really see that unsupported top flexing like crazy.
In plastic, moving the V further down to make the unsupported part thicker would be one option.
The other would be to flycut the back opening for a close fit to the wheel to minimize the length of the unsupported part.
Or both.
*flexing a bit.
Very cool 👍
You could add a bit of meat to the top piece without thickening the whole block by dropping the V down a little.
hey! Absoultly love your content! Where did you get the thin, large v-blocks at 26:58?