In the original Okinawan karate styles, the primary goal of the martial art was the defense of one's life. Every technique or series of techniques in a kata was designed to be able take the life of an attacker. The bunkai is hidden, but is filled with applications of "Ti" (their extremely effective indigenous grappling art) and utilizes kyusho to strike or manipulate vital points. Not only are their techniqes leathal, but they develop iron bodies through years of conditioning and kiko (qigong).
Do you know I've been learning this kata for a few weeks and always thought my Sensei was calling it Sanchin, and I was so confused why I couldn't find the same version we were doing on RUclips. Then I remembered this is the kata that is taught in one of the karate kid movies so searched based on that and low and behold I've found the correct kata.
Keyboard warriors. In my experience you can practice your Kata to perfection then on the day the matts and the crowd take it out of you. That little leg wobble you didn't count on, then your out. It's harder to do in real life.
In my opinion it would be wise for a martial artist student to essay katas from different Karate styles. Even some Saolin forms with small grade of difficulty are accessible e.g. Wu He, Wu Xing Shi Liu Fa, Rou, Qi Xing, ... ( the most of them are forbidden for a practitioner who hasn't got the skills of a gymnastics athlete ). I have essayed all Shotokan katas, continued with the Assai-Ryu system and recently I 've discovered Goju-Ryu, I love them all!
A few MMA fighters with Karate background: Lyoto Machida, Conor Mcgregor, Nick Diaz, Gunnar Nelson...only to name a few. I also have trained in Karate and boxing and really not gonna take sides. a martial art is a martial art. My opinion it's the person not the style that wins
I think you are right. But not for affirming that someone who practices karate must have one sensei only. I did have several senseis, because I had no choice. And I think that this has made me be who I am today. I have still lots, lots to learn about karate, but isn't that the case for all of us ? I mean, we never finish learning. With all of my senseis, I discovered new things, new notions, and now I am glad to be able to restitue it in my dojo.
@Mathias Lindahl I'm afraid you miss the whole concept of Karate, it's not just about bashing the he'll out of someone in a ring, kata is just a beautiful expression of an art form captured in each technique allowing the practitioner to be in the present moment, raising awareness and spirituality. I wouldn't expect Neanderthals such as you to appreciate such a sophisticated and ancient art. It takes years of hard patience and practice to master, and before you say it I was a boxer long ago, but
@@williamb.sullivaninactive1192 Kyokushin is not a real style. It's just Mas Oyama's idea of, what is Goju-ryu. Kicking and punching only for combat sport to make $$$$
I just realized that Seienchin Kata looks really similar to Seyunchin Kata of Goju-Ryu Karate ..... Only difference is the extra attacks .. This is Shito-Ryu by the way ...
Seiunchin/Seienchin/Seyunchin are exactly the same Kata minor slight differences between schools - they are all descendant from the Naha-te school taught my Master Hishigonna, who taught both Kenwa Mabuni Sama (founder of Shito-Ryu) and Chojun Miyagi Sama (founder of Goju-ryu)
Indeed, karate is a much more subjective and individualized experience than some may realize or admit, particularly at the advanced levels. A good look into the history of karate will reveal that change is as much a part of karate as is tradition. I wouldn't dare assume to know everything about it, as I am still learning myself. Osu.
Correct me if I am wrong. Different styles have similar kata with variation of the style (for example Heian katas from Shotokan and Pinan katas from Kyokushin), for this case this is called SEIENCHIN: she is performing in Shitoryu style, I believe. SEIYUNCHIN is the Goju-ryu variation, which has more pulling-locking hand techniques. Anyway they all come from one root 征引鎮. Anybody has better knowledge please correct / share, thank you.
I think he was referring to the spelling/pronunciation of the name. The kata itself tends to be similar in technique across different karate styles that have it in their syllabus (Kyokushin, Shito, Goju, etc.) The pronunciation, however, is different for the Japanese and the Okinwan. The Okinawan dialect and certain parts of speech doesn't mesh well with the Japanese toungue at times (not all the time), so Japanese speakers come up with an equivalent that suits them.
Thank you for your explanation. I understand the different in Japanese/Okinawan pronunciation. I, however, do realize sometimes the slight variation in the same kata among different styles or even between artists of same style. If there's anything I am missing please do tell me more, onegai itashimasu. Osu.
I understand what you are saying that someone should have only one sensai, and I agree. But sometimes you have no choice. For example, my teacher of 12 years had to leave to take care of his sick mother in law and I ended up taking Chinese Kung Fu because it was the only school around with a top notch instructor, all the others I found were lacking in quality. I'm just saying sometimes events happen beyond your control. You are right though, that boxer guy does have a simple mind.
As you no doubt know, many of the Japanese names (other languages too) are open to differing phonetic solutions. That's probably what's happened here. For what it's worth Seiyunchin seems to offer a better way of saying it. To me Seienchin could be pronounced to sound like Sanchin, which is of course a totally different kata. In my opinion it's best to avoid such confusion.
I guess that REAL fighting is when you fight with wrapped hands, big puffy gloves, tooth-protection, only allowed to attack specific areas above the waist with hands only, with a judge that have your back if you get your ass kicked, 3 more judges counting points and so on... The majority of boxers would end with broken hands and wrists if they fought without wrapping their hands and the big gloves.I still believe that boxers are the best fighters (hands only), but it's far from real fighting.
To some degree, one COULD say that you are correct. To someone who is absorbed with fighting and competitive martial arts, all kata would be nonsense. Also, no disrespect intended to any Japanese karateka, but Gichin Funakoshi did not teach real karate (tuidi) bunkai to the Japanese; he taught katas as exercises. Most of the katas have been changed and only superficial bunkai is taught in Japanese karate, generally speaking anyway. True Okinawan karate is VASTLY different that Japanese karate.
Please, please. I need a web page where I could find information about Nihon Shito Ryu Kai. I make Shito Ryu Style in Venezuela. Greetings to all those who could give me a help and special greetings to my foreign brothers in Karate Do Shito Ryu. Oss!!!!!!
Amazing precision...but I'm torn watching world-level tournament kata. On the one hand, you have grace, precision, accuracy, etc. On the other, they all begin to look a little too..."manufactured".
Couldn't agree more. I watch the living legend Morio Higoanna, 10th Dan, performing this Kata. It's full of power and practicality, but I doubt if he would ever get a medal in a competition. The 'manufactured' element you talk about is missing in his Kata. But not to take away this brilliant performance at all - full respect. Osu
What i dont like about people like you, are that youre only able to see one aspect of every martial art... you see some wkf sport karate, and generalize based on what you see from one video, you then proceed to label things useless because theyre not designed for cage fighting... karate isnt a bloodsport, its an art aswell as self defense. If you have studied karate for as long as you say you have, you wouldve realized that pretty much every technique is designed to create as much hurt as it can
Sadly the kata has been lost in with competition. This is performance art, not martial art. I dont like the slow, rushing to a pose, like flow of competition katas.
That is because karate was never made to be a sport; it was made to be a form of self defense and a way to stay healthy. so this "sport karate" is not real karate.
trời ạ, bạn này nói bạn này học karatedo mà nói không biết kata là sao, kata không phải phải là môn võ chỉ là tiếng nhật kata= bài quyền trong karatedo thôi
i can understand what you think. i don't think that you are right. type: " bassai dai shitoryu bunkai", or "empi shitoryu bunkai" on youtube, check what will karate katas give you if you can practice them. one more thing, i don't think that you study karate for 16 years, and remember that, a karate doer should have one sensei only. it is not good to be a liar like that! in one word, non of the karate kata is nonsense, you are nonsense. Boxing is simple, it is suitable for your simple mind, right
16 years? And still don't know how to use Karate? Karate is different from boxing, I do Boxing also, Karate application is completaly different, I could figure it out with some months of training, if you counldn't do it in 16 year, you better leave it. Keep just boxing that it is what you're looking for.
It's fascinating to me to see how differently the same kata is portrayed across various styles.
Yes I agree.
I’m learning this kata. This amazing kata really helped.
In the original Okinawan karate styles, the primary goal of the martial art was the defense of one's life. Every technique or series of techniques in a kata was designed to be able take the life of an attacker. The bunkai is hidden, but is filled with applications of "Ti" (their extremely effective indigenous grappling art) and utilizes kyusho to strike or manipulate vital points. Not only are their techniqes leathal, but they develop iron bodies through years of conditioning and kiko (qigong).
She has impeccable form...
We do this at my dojo,, but just different timing. She did this really well
Her Niko ashi Dachi is perfect very beautiful kata!
I loved her Shiko Dachi. I would love to have that flexibility =)
One of my favorite kata, always won gold 😊
Your explanation was short but captured the essence of traditional karate. Thank you very much.
Super What a power, speed and precision👍
Do you know I've been learning this kata for a few weeks and always thought my Sensei was calling it Sanchin, and I was so confused why I couldn't find the same version we were doing on RUclips. Then I remembered this is the kata that is taught in one of the karate kid movies so searched based on that and low and behold I've found the correct kata.
The 77 morons that disliked this vid probably can't even do a high quality Seienchin like hers.
Keyboard warriors. In my experience you can practice your Kata to perfection then on the day the matts and the crowd take it out of you. That little leg wobble you didn't count on, then your out. It's harder to do in real life.
...whoa. I think I must have been taught this kata wrong, because she performs it with such finesse. Brava!
In my opinion it would be wise for a martial artist student to essay katas from different Karate styles. Even some Saolin forms with small grade of difficulty are accessible e.g. Wu He, Wu Xing Shi Liu Fa, Rou, Qi Xing, ... ( the most of them are forbidden for a practitioner who hasn't got the skills of a gymnastics athlete ). I have essayed all Shotokan katas, continued with the Assai-Ryu system and recently I 've discovered Goju-Ryu, I love them all!
A few MMA fighters with Karate background: Lyoto Machida, Conor Mcgregor, Nick Diaz, Gunnar Nelson...only to name a few. I also have trained in Karate and boxing and really not gonna take sides. a martial art is a martial art. My opinion it's the person not the style that wins
+luksjv i agree 100 percent
mma sucks dude. karate is 10x better
I wouldn't say it sucks, but I enjoy Karate more. I would like to learn some grappling just to know a bit of everything,
I don't know any karate but I'm learning jiu-jitsu and I love it. Our best moves seem to be ground moves. That's where fights usually go.
One of my fav. katas. There is much beauty in it. Osu.
SENSEI PETTEN ikr
今まで見た模範の中で一番綺麗。かっこいい‼︎
Really Amazing and inspiring....
Your stance and moving style so different. No one can do like you...
Congrats USAMI master. I am learning....
very nice kata
I think you are right. But not for affirming that someone who practices karate must have one sensei only. I did have several senseis, because I had no choice. And I think that this has made me be who I am today. I have still lots, lots to learn about karate, but isn't that the case for all of us ? I mean, we never finish learning. With all of my senseis, I discovered new things, new notions, and now I am glad to be able to restitue it in my dojo.
@Mathias Lindahl I'm afraid you miss the whole concept of Karate, it's not just about bashing the he'll out of someone in a ring, kata is just a beautiful expression of an art form captured in each technique allowing the practitioner to be in the present moment, raising awareness and spirituality. I wouldn't expect Neanderthals such as you to appreciate such a sophisticated and ancient art. It takes years of hard patience and practice to master, and before you say it I was a boxer long ago, but
Shito-Ryu. Really well performed, but i'm a Goju-ryu guy and i find too many difference... too many.
same here i can watch it but it seems way too rushed and feels awkward
This is the standard for Shito Ryu (in kata tournament). Don't know the Gojo Ryu vesion.
Differs from Kyokushin version as well.
@@Ruudi78 kyokushin is a shadow of the real thing.
@@williamb.sullivaninactive1192 Kyokushin is not a real style. It's just Mas Oyama's idea of, what is Goju-ryu. Kicking and punching only for combat sport to make $$$$
i bet the lady has a shotokan background. i am sure she could perform all shotakan kata at the highest level.
I just realized that Seienchin Kata looks really similar to Seyunchin Kata of Goju-Ryu Karate ..... Only difference is the extra attacks .. This is Shito-Ryu by the way ...
Seiunchin/Seienchin/Seyunchin are exactly the same Kata minor slight differences between schools - they are all descendant from the Naha-te school taught my Master Hishigonna, who taught both Kenwa Mabuni Sama (founder of Shito-Ryu) and Chojun Miyagi Sama (founder of Goju-ryu)
Indeed, karate is a much more subjective and individualized experience than some may realize or admit, particularly at the advanced levels. A good look into the history of karate will reveal that change is as much a part of karate as is tradition. I wouldn't dare assume to know everything about it, as I am still learning myself. Osu.
Good powerful movements by beautiful lady
Amazing!
In the style I trained this was a yellow belt kata! 😂
@@christineb1464 oh wow for me we do it when we are blue belt but its purple belt kata.
Great looking kata
in kyokushinkai there is also a very beautiful kata seichin
I love her cat stance at the end, very nice.
Correct me if I am wrong. Different styles have similar kata with variation of the style (for example Heian katas from Shotokan and Pinan katas from Kyokushin), for this case this is called SEIENCHIN: she is performing in Shitoryu style, I believe. SEIYUNCHIN is the Goju-ryu variation, which has more pulling-locking hand techniques. Anyway they all come from one root 征引鎮. Anybody has better knowledge please correct / share, thank you.
Great style and performance
Vey good kata.
Shito-ryu has greatly changed the form and meaning that is embedded in Goju-ryu.
Beautiful kata. Is there an equivalent in shotokan style?
Thank you!
You're welcome!
I think Im in love
Just superb
wonderfullll ...
Nice in my school this is a black belt entry kata
Beautifully done !
I think he was referring to the spelling/pronunciation of the name. The kata itself tends to be similar in technique across different karate styles that have it in their syllabus (Kyokushin, Shito, Goju, etc.) The pronunciation, however, is different for the Japanese and the Okinwan. The Okinawan dialect and certain parts of speech doesn't mesh well with the Japanese toungue at times (not all the time), so Japanese speakers come up with an equivalent that suits them.
This is very different from how Okinawan Goju Ryu performs this kata. Still a wonderful performance though.
Ma best kathe😘
This kata been imported by Shotokan from Shito- Ryu as become some development to make more sliding action in Shotokan excellent performance 9 from 10
The Shoto's School has not this kata.
Best kata 👌
I am from the style goju ryu jundokan and it is very different to hw I do it.
But still excellent performing
Same here I'm OGKK our kata is probably similar to yours.
Tanta perfeição me deixou emocionado!
I like the karateka❤
Japanese natural instinct, always surprise me
Felicidades. Un mata muy bien trabajado y muy vistoso
Thank you for your explanation. I understand the different in Japanese/Okinawan pronunciation. I, however, do realize sometimes the slight variation in the same kata among different styles or even between artists of same style. If there's anything I am missing please do tell me more, onegai itashimasu. Osu.
really sharp
I understand what you are saying that someone should have only one sensai, and I agree. But sometimes you have no choice. For example, my teacher of 12 years had to leave to take care of his sick mother in law and I ended up taking Chinese Kung Fu because it was the only school around with a top notch instructor, all the others I found were lacking in quality. I'm just saying sometimes events happen beyond your control. You are right though, that boxer guy does have a simple mind.
Looks good
It does!
As you no doubt know, many of the Japanese names (other languages too) are open to differing phonetic solutions. That's probably what's happened here. For what it's worth Seiyunchin seems to offer a better way of saying it. To me Seienchin could be pronounced to sound like Sanchin, which is of course a totally different kata. In my opinion it's best to avoid such confusion.
Easy easy you are very quick
For seienchin, Rimi san looks better than Rika sensei, such kata is better for certain body shape.
This kata is part of my Sandan test. Any more resources for it?
Tres belle kata
I guess that REAL fighting is when you fight with wrapped hands, big puffy gloves, tooth-protection, only allowed to attack specific areas above the waist with hands only, with a judge that have your back if you get your ass kicked, 3 more judges counting points and so on...
The majority of boxers would end with broken hands and wrists if they fought without wrapping their hands and the big gloves.I still believe that boxers are the best fighters (hands only), but it's far from real fighting.
Muito bonito oss
Is that style Shinto Ryu or Goju Ryu?
mutio legal esta lemina parabiens kata sientim so e do brasil pessoal mas me trduzo em espanhol tambem
Siapa yang karate tekan like ya.. disini kalau karate sabuk apa
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Green
Is this the same kata as the goju version?
To some degree, one COULD say that you are correct. To someone who is absorbed with fighting and competitive martial arts, all kata would be nonsense. Also, no disrespect intended to any Japanese karateka, but Gichin Funakoshi did not teach real karate (tuidi) bunkai to the Japanese; he taught katas as exercises. Most of the katas have been changed and only superficial bunkai is taught in Japanese karate, generally speaking anyway. True Okinawan karate is VASTLY different that Japanese karate.
The main difference was at the end when the kata was end
cool
Maravilhosaaaaa
WOOWW.... :O!!!
The first move is wrong you have to do a horse stance 45 degrees to the left and put your hands out to protect you groin
okay tks
hi iam a shito ryu player from tamilnadu
taufik tasneem
Is this not a form of Fu Jow Pai?
It's really hard to perform
She does seinchin and I do seyunchin
Please, please. I need a web page where I could find information about Nihon Shito Ryu Kai. I make Shito Ryu Style in Venezuela. Greetings to all those who could give me a help and special greetings to my foreign brothers in Karate Do Shito Ryu. Oss!!!!!!
shotokan?????
Amazing precision...but I'm torn watching world-level tournament kata. On the one hand, you have grace, precision, accuracy, etc. On the other, they all begin to look a little too..."manufactured".
Couldn't agree more. I watch the living legend Morio Higoanna, 10th Dan, performing this Kata. It's full of power and practicality, but I doubt if he would ever get a medal in a competition. The 'manufactured' element you talk about is missing in his Kata. But not to take away this brilliant performance at all - full respect. Osu
spiceleo. She is miss Rimi Kajikawa. From the Shito ryu style. Shito Kai.
What i dont like about people like you, are that youre only able to see one aspect of every martial art... you see some wkf sport karate, and generalize based on what you see from one video, you then proceed to label things useless because theyre not designed for cage fighting... karate isnt a bloodsport, its an art aswell as self defense. If you have studied karate for as long as you say you have, you wouldve realized that pretty much every technique is designed to create as much hurt as it can
Sadly the kata has been lost in with competition. This is performance art, not martial art. I dont like the slow, rushing to a pose, like flow of competition katas.
I don't agree with what he says... but calling boxing for the simple mind is a sign of disrespect and prejudice.
Молодец.
lindoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Mabye shito Ryu
Ag nee, man!
kyokushin seienchin is not that far off from this seienchin
That is because karate was never made to be a sport; it was made to be a form of self defense and a way to stay healthy. so this "sport karate" is not real karate.
But can she beat Mr Miyagi?
''cough cough'' lyoto machida ''cough cough''
big stances?
trời ạ, bạn này nói bạn này học karatedo mà nói không biết kata là sao, kata không phải phải là môn võ chỉ là tiếng nhật kata= bài quyền trong karatedo thôi
strange what the japanese have done to Okinawan kata
Shito Ryu.
shito ryu
i can understand what you think. i don't think that you are right. type: " bassai dai shitoryu bunkai", or "empi shitoryu bunkai" on youtube, check what will karate katas give you if you can practice them. one more thing, i don't think that you study karate for 16 years, and remember that, a karate doer should have one sensei only. it is not good to be a liar like that! in one word, non of the karate kata is nonsense, you are nonsense. Boxing is simple, it is suitable for your simple mind, right
Try boxing without gloves, champ! I bet you fracture your metacarpals after the first hit.
try the real karate fight KYOKUSHIN and after that leave a coment.ichi geki.osu
16 years? And still don't know how to use Karate? Karate is different from boxing, I do Boxing also, Karate application is completaly different, I could figure it out with some months of training, if you counldn't do it in 16 year, you better leave it. Keep just boxing that it is what you're looking for.
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