That Stihl branded Ferris looks pretty cool. But its kinda shady they don't state the obvious when they talk about the mower. That should be the first thing in the intro when they pitch this. The Ferris design is so unique vs any other ZTR, its laughable if they don't give credit to Ferris.
Thank you it's good to be a sharp eye of machines. That way we can get the word out to these guys who are buying one thing thinking it's another.BLEZZ#KEEP DA CHANGE.
Weird, looks a lot like my Ferris as well. Meanwhile, every dealer I speak with can't order me a new Ferris, production problems, can't get engines, orders not be fulfilled for over a year, but these will be available in spring? Cool story
@Randy Martin I spoke with a Ferris rep who gave details on this after demoing the Stihl myself. They are built at the same plant. Stihl spec'd it out, but he said that basically it's the same unit with lights and a USB charger. Doesn't mean it's a bad unit.
From what I can gather, these mowers are custom-built by Ferris for Stihl. So not only are you paying more for the branding, I'm sure Stihl cheaped out in some places. So good luck taking it to the shop every 3 months.
Looks awfully familiar to my ferris, thanks for taking us along Brian! Stuck at home sick otherwise I would have been there, really appreciate all your videos!
I think they are but painted white and orange. We aren't getting these in the UK but our UK Stihl representatives have been told about the launch of them in the USA. We get the Stihl ride on tractors in the UK and their front engine tractors are made by another Austrian manufacturer AL-KO and they are pretty decent machines
That because Stihl and Ferris partnered together to created this super mower, I love Ferris, when I went to my ACE dealer They had The new Stihl on the Floor, and it will be my next Zero turn for sure, it even look better in person. the one thing this guy did not mention, he said that Briggs engine is one of the 2 engine that comes with this beast, but he forgot to say Brigg VANGUARD thats the Briggs engine that you get! "The Vanguard engine is one great engine"
Briggs/Ferris/ Snapper/Simplicity are all one company, Stihl contracted them to do the manufacturing for their design and specs. John Deere has used Briggs for lawn tractor and Homeowner Zero turn mowers for years. There are only a handful of lawn equipment companies everyone is a part or owned by someone else.
Exactly! Stihl completely went through design and manufacturing and revisited everything and also worked on the outer design (besides) the colors. So it really is an upgraded/redesigned Ferris/Snapper product. German design and US robustness, best of both worlds!
Ferris/Snapper/Simplicity can’t keep up with their own stuff. Now Ferris is making this Stihl well a Ferris with Stihl stickers. Why take a good mower and put Stihl stickers on it? Now it will be junk like the rest of the stihl products.
Lol they should’ve come out with a mower 20 years ago. Their over priced, barely offer fleet discounts, want everything sold at MSRP and financing is awful, won’t let you use Sheffield. They won’t sell many at the price point they want
@WarriorBear I am a Ferris owning, Scag living guy who works at an Exmark/Husqvarna dealership. From what I know of the industry (I was at the OPE show last year, 2 of our people were there today) this kinda-sorta shows some desperation on the part of Briggs. They were absorbed by an investment group in 2020 and their turf division is hurting.
Well looks like a nice mower can I remind me of a Ferris independence suspension Are you gonna be like the others in charge a whole bunch of money money I know it's mark and Ferris gravely there are like 10 to 12000 like that Ferris is a little more
Any pricing information?? Interesting to see Stihl colors on a mower. Kinda disappointed that you need to go to the highest end commercial model for EFI. I hit up my Stihl dealer yesterday about them (they are also a Kubota dealer), and they didn't know they existed. I'm hearing that Stihl may only have them at places without other zero turn competition in the yard, so I may have to go to ACE Hardware. Very curious about the price point as we are getting a 60" zero turn this winter.....it was going to be a Kubota, but I would consider a Stihl with a Kawasaki engine but not at a higher price.
Right lmao, they make it seem like they were the designer, manufacturer and welded the thing together and shipped it there. I’ve noticed that with every booth 😂
I've been waiting for this for the longest. I carry nothing but Stihl and although Toro is my go to for mowers, it would be great to have the set finished of with a Stihl mower.
1 bought one . A972i cuts great very powerful with the vanguard. It dose scalp a little more than I would like. I’ve got 20 hours on it been it the shop twice for deck spindle problems. There is a washer between the blades and deck spindle that will deteriorate and cause it to cut uneven. Still looking for an answer for that.
Die hard Stihl product fan. I feel they are going to have a bit of a challenge keeping up with the big players. Props to Stihl for broadening their field of products!
I'm hearing Stihl is in the process of buying Briggs and Stratton, who owns Ferris. So not sure they have to work very hard to "keep up with the big guys".........
This is not good for steel it took you guys a long time to come out with a mower and then you couldn't even come out with your own mower you copied a ferris that's pretty simple and easy to do good luck with that
It’s basically a snapper pro/ Ferris. All mowers are basically the same it’s just either light, medium to heavy duty same engines transmissions only thing really different is the deck design most important is a good dealer support.
I own a ferris z2000 and I love it, will I be switching? No I like Red lol but props to this partnership. I live in NYS not to awful far from the factory and hope it puts more people to work.
Oy Vay, another contender in the commercial mower game 🙄 I'll keep my Ferris comments regarding the "unique" suspension, since so many others have already made theirs. The drive wheels look small, but I do like the sound of the 40 horse and oil guard, though.
Great looking mower. I like it since I have a stihl dealer right next to me as compared to the Farris which is a 1 hour driveway. I might look at my dealer and my demo one next year.
Don't forget RedMax has been able to bundle financing with handhelds and zero turns since 2017 AND you can finance as little as $500 of just RedMax handheld.
The zero turn mower market is highly competitive and saturated. I am a Stihl guy with the chainsaws, trimmers, blowers, and hedge trimmers. However, I don’t see Stihl making a dent in the zero turn market. Will only cut sales from Ferris dealers.
So it’s obviously a re-badged Ferris mower but is the deck different? I also couldn’t hear what the ground speed was or a mention or price point. Ferris is owned by Briggs and still use Kawasaki engines, that says a lot about the Kawasaki quality.
I think it's smart by Briggs to allow Kawasaki engines on their machines. I'm sure some guys won't buy it if it doesn't have a Kawasaki on it. I run the Ferris' with 2 Vanguard Big Blocks. Solid engines so far for me and 2 Kawasaki on my other 2 machines. Solid engines also..
You are correct and the deck does look different from the Ferris deck. It looks like the stihl deck has the front pointed down instead of at a slant like the Ferris icd deck. Also Ferris makes there deck in a 61 inch version, not 60 inch. Other than that it appears that the mowers are basically identical except for the rear end.
You all know you're only buying the name as far as I'm concerned still with the s*** if you want a real good mower get yourself on a hustler and you'll never change again that's down here from Florida and I run them hard
Just a ferris....like redmax is a Husqvarna and the old lesco was a cub....trying to make it a one stop shop for mower and hand helds...curious as here in VA. James river equipment which is John Deere have adopted Stihl hand helds as a standard across the state....wunder if the mower will show up at John Deere dealers ...
@@kevinabley4512 I feel like it's a great opportunity for mower shops that carry Stihl equipment now to get in the mower game with out a huge financial investment from another manufactuer
I'm looking for a mower can cut on the hills with out spinning tires. I have one that just do that it the Kaboda glide slide I would no tried it in, Its a winning mower that cuts on the hills.
After the last $500 stihl weed whacker I bought (that has never ran that great) I’m done with this company. There are better ones out there for the same or less money.
I posted this morning on sthils video showing their new mower. I commented it looked like a ferris. Then another guy said the same thing. So they removed the video. Typical sthil.
No EFI? That's disappointing. Also, the white.....not a great choice for mowing. That machine is gonna look rough after a couple weeks of work, especially in the south with the red clay. Love the saws...trimmers are pretty decent...though I feel like Stihl has lagged behind Husqvarna the last 10 years. Props to them bringing more competition to Z-Turns and hopefully the consumer can see prices go down and quality/features improve.
I never thought I’d see stihl make a mower …. Wait…. They don’t ….it’s just a label change. Ferris probably needed the marketing honestly…. Nobody runs them .
ITS LITTERALLY A FERRIS. Ferris has been real shady lately. Cant supply there dealers with equipment but at the same time they go and do a deal with steal to build them mowers. Odds are the release date for these will get delayed a few times
Agree 100%, this is a shit deal. Can't get a new Ferris, or parts for my current one, but could get one with a different color scheme and through a different dealer. Bullshit in my opinion.
Seems like everyone is jumping on the zero turn bandwagon. The good thing about stihl is that they service what they sell and getting parts from a dealer should be super easy. Being that this is a ferris clone idk about it. Not saying ferris is a bad machine, I've never ran one. But I'll be real, I ain't giving up my john Deere z930m the thing is a tank.
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That Stihl branded Ferris looks pretty cool. But its kinda shady they don't state the obvious when they talk about the mower. That should be the first thing in the intro when they pitch this. The Ferris design is so unique vs any other ZTR, its laughable if they don't give credit to Ferris.
Looks like my ferris lol
Same as Dewalt being a Stanley Black n Decker brand...
Thank you it's good to be a sharp eye of machines. That way we can get the word out to these guys who are buying one thing thinking it's another.BLEZZ#KEEP DA CHANGE.
First thing I thought as soon as I saw it! It literally is just an orange and gray Ferris.
Weird, looks a lot like my Ferris as well. Meanwhile, every dealer I speak with can't order me a new Ferris, production problems, can't get engines, orders not be fulfilled for over a year, but these will be available in spring? Cool story
“I’ll take FERRIS clones for $1000, Alex” 👌🏼😂
Gracias for bringing us along as always Brian!
~🇺🇸💪🏼☮️~
Not a clone. These are the simplicity branded units they just yanked from our product line, readied. Built in the same factory.
@Randy Martin I spoke with a Ferris rep who gave details on this after demoing the Stihl myself. They are built at the same plant. Stihl spec'd it out, but he said that basically it's the same unit with lights and a USB charger. Doesn't mean it's a bad unit.
Ferris is taking the money, they're building them.
I love how the rep is talking about the suspension system like it's new. Ferris has been using it for years.
From what I can gather, these mowers are custom-built by Ferris for Stihl.
So not only are you paying more for the branding, I'm sure Stihl cheaped out in some places. So good luck taking it to the shop every 3 months.
I was laughing, he made it sound like it was new. Nah, just a painted up Ferris.
They just yanked all those models from us Simplicity dealers to give to Stihl.
They're hoping Noone catches on
made by farris lol
Colour scheme is crap. Surely they could've done better than that. Looks like a poor man's Ferris.
Those are Stihl colors 🤔
@@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power And they suck.
Ferris it is junk
Ahhhh yes a repainted Ferris
Made by Ferris.
That’s what I thought
Pretty much, it’s the orange Ferris mower with stihl name on it lol. Not expecting that one lol
No stand on option tho?
Curious. Only one stop shop for "select Dealers".
@@ironblast5 there is a stand on Also
Looks awfully familiar to my ferris, thanks for taking us along Brian! Stuck at home sick otherwise I would have been there, really appreciate all your videos!
I think they are but painted white and orange. We aren't getting these in the UK but our UK Stihl representatives have been told about the launch of them in the USA. We get the Stihl ride on tractors in the UK and their front engine tractors are made by another Austrian manufacturer AL-KO and they are pretty decent machines
price diff?
That because Stihl and Ferris partnered together to created this super mower, I love Ferris, when I went to my ACE dealer They had The new Stihl on the Floor, and it will be my next Zero turn for sure, it even look better in person. the one thing this guy did not mention, he said that Briggs engine is one of the 2 engine that comes with this beast, but he forgot to say Brigg VANGUARD thats the Briggs engine that you get! "The Vanguard engine is one great engine"
That's basically a Ferris they just changed the color😂
Another Briggs & Stratton product. Pretty much an orange Ferris.
Or an orange and white simplicity, or an orange Snapper Pro......😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Briggs/Ferris/ Snapper/Simplicity are all one company, Stihl contracted them to do the manufacturing for their design and specs. John Deere has used Briggs for lawn tractor and Homeowner Zero turn mowers for years. There are only a handful of lawn equipment companies everyone is a part or owned by someone else.
Exactly! Stihl completely went through design and manufacturing and revisited everything and also worked on the outer design (besides) the colors. So it really is an upgraded/redesigned Ferris/Snapper product. German design and US robustness, best of both worlds!
I'm a fan of Bad Boy. Bang for buck is hard to beat.
I'm a stihl fan all day long but it def looks like a ferris brand painted white and orange to me
It's a Ferris
Ferris/Snapper/Simplicity can’t keep up with their own stuff. Now Ferris is making this Stihl well a Ferris with Stihl stickers. Why take a good mower and put Stihl stickers on it? Now it will be junk like the rest of the stihl products.
It’s basically an orange Ferris haha.
Basically?
Lol they should’ve come out with a mower 20 years ago. Their over priced, barely offer fleet discounts, want everything sold at MSRP and financing is awful, won’t let you use Sheffield. They won’t sell many at the price point they want
How much are they
I'm going to stick with my Exmark and Scags looks pretty cool!
@WarriorBear
I am a Ferris owning, Scag living guy who works at an Exmark/Husqvarna dealership.
From what I know of the industry (I was at the OPE show last year, 2 of our people were there today) this kinda-sorta shows some desperation on the part of Briggs. They were absorbed by an investment group in 2020 and their turf division is hurting.
Yea and it sounded like 52” was the smallest you can go. I like my 48” zero turn.
Well looks like a nice mower can I remind me of a Ferris independence suspension Are you gonna be like the others in charge a whole bunch of money money I know it's mark and Ferris gravely there are like 10 to 12000 like that Ferris is a little more
The more competition between the ZTR companies, the better.
Why didn't he just say, hey its really a Ferris just with different paint and plastics.... same suspension same deck
Any pricing information?? Interesting to see Stihl colors on a mower. Kinda disappointed that you need to go to the highest end commercial model for EFI. I hit up my Stihl dealer yesterday about them (they are also a Kubota dealer), and they didn't know they existed. I'm hearing that Stihl may only have them at places without other zero turn competition in the yard, so I may have to go to ACE Hardware. Very curious about the price point as we are getting a 60" zero turn this winter.....it was going to be a Kubota, but I would consider a Stihl with a Kawasaki engine but not at a higher price.
If you have a Ferris dealer close they are the same mower. Stihl did not design this mower I’m afraid
I find it interesting that someone can “pitch” a machine that they had no part of designing yet sound like he was part of the plan.
Right lmao, they make it seem like they were the designer, manufacturer and welded the thing together and shipped it there. I’ve noticed that with every booth 😂
I've been waiting for this for the longest. I carry nothing but Stihl and although Toro is my go to for mowers, it would be great to have the set finished of with a Stihl mower.
1 bought one . A972i cuts great very powerful with the vanguard. It dose scalp a little more than I would like. I’ve got 20 hours on it been it the shop twice for deck spindle problems. There is a washer between the blades and deck spindle that will deteriorate and cause it to cut uneven. Still looking for an answer for that.
Carb. No direct injection options 🤔 Buy a Scag.
🥇🤩🇺🇸🤠
So it's for people who who don't like Ferris red or Simplicity orange? 🙄
Yup, save some cash and grab some orange krylon, lol
That is the stupidest thing ever heard 😅. People rank stihl way higher than what it deserves. Lame.
Die hard Stihl product fan. I feel they are going to have a bit of a challenge keeping up with the big players. Props to Stihl for broadening their field of products!
about 30 years too late.
I'm hearing Stihl is in the process of buying Briggs and Stratton, who owns Ferris. So not sure they have to work very hard to "keep up with the big guys".........
@@davidcatlin1970 They have a manufacturing relationship.
Can you grease everything. I have over 500 hours on my orange machine it has grease zerts on everything and I’ve never replaced a spindle
This is not good for steel it took you guys a long time to come out with a mower and then you couldn't even come out with your own mower you copied a ferris that's pretty simple and easy to do good luck with that
I love my exmarks
It’s basically a snapper pro/ Ferris. All mowers are basically the same it’s just either light, medium to heavy duty same engines transmissions only thing really different is the deck design most important is a good dealer support.
No better than Stihl 😊
Finally a zero turn I CANT afford 😅
There’s definitely plenty more expensive mowers than this 😂
Just buy the Ferris. What a disappointment.
Hopefully this Ferris is a bit cheaper with stihl paint job
This looks suspiciously like my ferris LOL Still neat!
It's a farris
I own a ferris z2000 and I love it, will I be switching? No I like Red lol but props to this partnership. I live in NYS not to awful far from the factory and hope it puts more people to work.
Ferris with probably a 20% price premium.
So ready for a stihl ferris mower!!!! Going down to my dealer tomorrow to get on the list 🤙🏻
What ground speed?? It got cut off. Brian said holy cow
Looks like Stihl has purchased or merged with Ferris/Briggs Vanguard 🤔
Oy Vay, another contender in the commercial mower game 🙄 I'll keep my Ferris comments regarding the "unique" suspension, since so many others have already made theirs. The drive wheels look small, but I do like the sound of the 40 horse and oil guard, though.
If it is the same as a Farris I will take the Stihl
Great looking mower. I like it since I have a stihl dealer right next to me as compared to the Farris which is a 1 hour driveway. I might look at my dealer and my demo one next year.
Awesome never seen a Stihl zero turn before till this day it's like a Farris zero turn mower but a maker of a Stihl zero turn mower that's cool
Don't forget RedMax has been able to bundle financing with handhelds and zero turns since 2017 AND you can finance as little as $500 of just RedMax handheld.
When will the pricing be released? Thanks for another great video Brian.
Looks like a ferris
💥 That deal with Ferris should turn out to be a good one. Stihl has stronger brand power. Brian! That microphone dude! 🤷♂️
*Keep on tractoring!*
So instead of the silly two cylinder Kawasaki, how about 4cl off a Kawasaki Ninja 1000, running 13k rpm's, so it would even SOUND like a Stihl! Lol
Stihl should have used a huge single cylinder 2 cycle…pull start…that way the saw fuel could be use universally, just tap the fuel tank when needed!
LoL a giant four-mix 👍🏼
2022 and not electric?? All my equipment from Stihl is electric but WTF how stupid is this. I enjoy my Mean Green Rival already 2 seasons.
The zero turn mower market is highly competitive and saturated. I am a Stihl guy with the chainsaws, trimmers, blowers, and hedge trimmers. However, I don’t see Stihl making a dent in the zero turn market. Will only cut sales from Ferris dealers.
Another step in Briggs/KPS screwing the longtime Simplicity dealers. Yanked all our commercial zt's out of the catalog, and give them to a competitor.
Thank you! Given my experience with tools from STIHL I am happy for the roll out. However, it might be expensive
Just buy a ferris. It will be cheaper and better parts availability. For the same mower.
It’s gunna be ridiculously expensive
@@732oZAINO And after 2 years no service parts. They make a great chainsaw. The rest they can keep.
Actually, it's pronounced Still, not Steel. According to the Germain manufacturer Stihl.
You are ONLY buying the name. Don't waste your money!!!!!
Hi! The price & warranty talk !!!!🇺🇸🦅👍👌
Briggs motors are complete junk. And mowers don't belong having suspension. Ferris has it and they cut like crap. Stick to chain saws
40 HP/60" CUT 👍
You can not beat 0% financing.
Just keep a sufficient balance in your checking account
and set up payments thru ‘Bill Pay’
Thanks for the video Brian
My stihl dealer doesn't have them, probably because they just pick up wright.
Ferris looks way better....but personally do not care for a Ferris due to scalping and poor wiring/safety switch setup.
So it’s obviously a re-badged Ferris mower but is the deck different?
I also couldn’t hear what the ground speed was or a mention or price point.
Ferris is owned by Briggs and still use Kawasaki engines, that says a lot about the Kawasaki quality.
I think it's smart by Briggs to allow Kawasaki engines on their machines. I'm sure some guys won't buy it if it doesn't have a Kawasaki on it. I run the Ferris' with 2 Vanguard Big Blocks. Solid engines so far for me and 2 Kawasaki on my other 2 machines. Solid engines also..
Pretty sure he said 12mph
You are correct and the deck does look different from the Ferris deck. It looks like the stihl deck has the front pointed down instead of at a slant like the Ferris icd deck. Also Ferris makes there deck in a 61 inch version, not 60 inch. Other than that it appears that the mowers are basically identical except for the rear end.
@@jadonnoble5621 ferris is changing to 60" now as well for 2022
it's a Briggs & Stratton Mower :)
How many mph did he say
12
You all know you're only buying the name as far as I'm concerned still with the s*** if you want a real good mower get yourself on a hustler and you'll never change again that's down here from Florida and I run them hard
I'm good with my Spartan SRT-XD.
Did Stihl Private Label a Ferris ZTR?
Ferris' rebadged as Stihl.
Just a ferris....like redmax is a Husqvarna and the old lesco was a cub....trying to make it a one stop shop for mower and hand helds...curious as here in VA. James river equipment which is John Deere have adopted Stihl hand helds as a standard across the state....wunder if the mower will show up at John Deere dealers ...
I doubt James River will carry the Stihl Mowers, but I bet Smith Turf and Irrigation will
@@kevinabley4512 I feel like it's a great opportunity for mower shops that carry Stihl equipment now to get in the mower game with out a huge financial investment from another manufactuer
They just had to try grab market share, huh? Wonder who they got to make the mower so they could stick their name on it.
Lame...
Great video Brian..... do you know where I could spec sheets on their new line of commercial mowers? I wouldn't want a Briggs powered one though.
Hi, I live in Australia
Are they going to be available here, in Australia. And are they making a stand on mower.
I'm looking for a mower can cut on the hills with out spinning tires. I have one that just do that it the Kaboda glide slide I would no tried it in, Its a winning mower that cuts on the hills.
It's a Ferris mower with Stihl branding. Nothing new.
Turf tiger scag better and less money than the unproven 700 lot's of thing's to wear out on that 700 no thanks
This guy needs to be trained on how to walk around and sell a mower, stick with chain saws guy!
Old engine options, been about for years, shame there’s not a Honda engine option.
lawncare tractor stihl rt 5097 it's a disaster sorry to say it's a garbage after 2 yrs....
It is just a Ferris mower. Nothing new by Stihl.
Why would I buy this instead of going straight to Ferris?
How many mile a hr grass speed?? I didn't understand what he said.
After the last $500 stihl weed whacker I bought (that has never ran that great) I’m done with this company.
There are better ones out there for the same or less money.
Would be so much better if the frost sentence was something like "Stihl is proud to announce a partnership with Ferris.....blah blah blah"
I posted this morning on sthils video showing their new mower. I commented it looked like a ferris. Then another guy said the same thing. So they removed the video. Typical sthil.
No EFI? That's disappointing. Also, the white.....not a great choice for mowing. That machine is gonna look rough after a couple weeks of work, especially in the south with the red clay.
Love the saws...trimmers are pretty decent...though I feel like Stihl has lagged behind Husqvarna the last 10 years. Props to them bringing more competition to Z-Turns and hopefully the consumer can see prices go down and quality/features improve.
I never thought I’d see stihl make a mower …. Wait…. They don’t ….it’s just a label change. Ferris probably needed the marketing honestly…. Nobody runs them .
So it’s a rebranded Ferris minus the bigger EFI engines
STIHL can’t even make blowers that work properly, what makes them think they should make zero-turn mowers?😂😂
ITS LITTERALLY A FERRIS. Ferris has been real shady lately. Cant supply there dealers with equipment but at the same time they go and do a deal with steal to build them mowers. Odds are the release date for these will get delayed a few times
Right? Have been waiting for an fw45 and a z3x for over 6 months now. Good thing my mower didn't break down this season.
Agree 100%, this is a shit deal. Can't get a new Ferris, or parts for my current one, but could get one with a different color scheme and through a different dealer. Bullshit in my opinion.
Here's the spolier alert...just like Snapper Pro, that mower looks like a differently badged Ferris Industries product
Younger brother to my Ferris IS 2100
When are the battery models coming???
Wow that’s cool
Who is this made by for Stihl? It looks like a Ferris suspension system, but on the other hand it looks like an Ariens or Husqvarna.
Briggs n Stratton, they own ferris
Redesigned Briggs Mowers
Are the Stihl Zero Turn mowers built in America! Also, are the Engines Chinese made! You know, like most other Brands!
I’ll take one and give u an honest opinion of it after each cut.
Seems like everyone is jumping on the zero turn bandwagon. The good thing about stihl is that they service what they sell and getting parts from a dealer should be super easy. Being that this is a ferris clone idk about it. Not saying ferris is a bad machine, I've never ran one. But I'll be real, I ain't giving up my john Deere z930m the thing is a tank.
Probably costs $1000 more than a Ferris because of the Stihl logo. Just say that it’s a rebranded Ferris.
It's about time they got on board with a o.turn lawnmower. Still makes good equip ment. Time will tell. Like you sead...
Sound like a bouncing ball I will keep my turf figer the best.