On a semi-related note, the Half-Life 2 USP model and animations were used as a placeholder weapon early in the development of Cyberpunk 2077. There's a clip of it in their in-house bug-reel.
@@TinyDeskEngineer no, they released the game to catch up with christmas sales there's barely any records of anyone pressuring anyone at cd projekt red to release the game early, that's just an excuse for redditors to try and justify their hyped game being shit. besides, no company in their right mind would ruin their own motto just because people were being bullies, they're a corporation, not a personality, which is why they released it early: to catch up with christmas sales and make some money
The game wasn't released to hit Christmas, it was released to not miss the end of the console generation. They already had a deal with Microsoft to do CP2077 themed Xbox One X systems which had been manufactured the previous year. They couldn't leave it any longer, or else that deal would fall through.
9:48 Fun Fact: when Garry made Garry's Mod, he actually went out of his way to fix the missing shells issue. So, if you were to launch GMod, and pull out the pistol and shoot it, you'll notice that it does, in fact, eject shells. P. S. I am surprised that this bug slipped through Valve's multiple bug-fixing updates that they periodically release, even to this day. I bet someone did get fired for this blunder.
@@aster1sk294 I disagree also, the Glock is more accurate while the MP5 is less accurate. You might take out the Glock for longer distance kill, while the MP5 is a quick death kill for up close enemies. With this strategy and the same ammo, you have to balance out and conserve that ammo. It makes the game more survival like and have that strategize edge.
Man it straight up is Half Life Barnecals die in 4 shots So you could either from afar fire 4 short with single mode or use burst when up close Hl2's peashooter ass pistol takes forever to kill em Geniunely fuked up my muscle memory
@@42carlos if you go the way you're supposed to you can't miss the crossbow. problem is if you kill the ichthyosaur with your glock you actually have no need to follow that way anymore and basically skip it ^^
@@curple3 I think they somehow managed to not even get the first crowbar and played the whole game crowbarless, so finding out that there were two all along (maybe there's a third one inside the G-Man's briefcase? Who knows?)... it was just too much to handle. We should be empathise.
@@deniz1603 Ohhh, ya got me! I was trying to say 'should empathise' and 'should be empathising' at the same time, y'know, to give you the choice. It most definitely wasn't a typo. It's okay if you're mad. I would be if I could only reply by quoting other comments. Is it what, a mental tic? Facebook image curse? Misdirected anger cos you hate pistols? Whatever it is, I hope you get the help you need. We all just want the best for you. You gotta have a pistol, though.
interesting bug/glitch in HL2 where If you held the RMB, then the LMB it would build up every bullet until you released. Meaning you could mag-dump in 1 shot like a shotgun. It was pretty fun. Got patched out several years ago, but was a thing for many years post release iirc
9:40 The USP’s reload animation is very slightly slower, and has a slightly different animation upon reload, as when the slide’s released, there’s a small hop-up in Freeman’s hand, in prerelease. Release fixed all that.
If you look closely too, the gun is also held in a different angle: in the developing version the gun was held more to the right meanwhile in the official version it is more in between the right and middle
Fun fact, the half life 2 pistol sound is a over amplified/ clipped 38 revolver sound file from the Hollywood edge hpx sound library. The half life 1 Glock is very similar to sound ideas Sonic boom guns gunshot sound, but I think it predates the launch of that library, so it's just a similar recording most likely. Left 4 dead 2 does heavily use Sonic boom gunshots for it's new guns though. Tf2 uses a mix of sources mixed together, from Hollywood edge premiere edition, Sonic boom gunshots, sound ideas series 6000 extension 1 gunshots and or sound ideas guns collection (same recordings across two different libraries, much like how the Sonic boom gunshots are also in the 50 cd Valentino sound effect library. Not sure which came first, but liscensing from sound designers recordings to multiple different sound libraries even of competing companies, is (well, was) quite common. These days smaller startups selling on new marketplaces are actually thriving while Hollywood edge was bought by sound dogs, and sound ideas now effectively bought Hollywood edge from them, sound ideas is really the only major player left, and they don't release much new original content often. They're less creator, more rights holder now. While boom library, sound morph, and many others are basically the new wave now. Alyx's pistol in the hl:alyx uses some boom library sounds but heavily designed. (not to be confused with sonic boom, Sonic boom is a sound ideas library, boom library is an entire sound effect recording and design team that publishes vst plugins and sound libraries)
9:31 you don't have to rack the slide because the slide is locked back when reloading, the lock is released at the end of the reloading animation which would chamber a round.
I do think it's the weakest of the three, especially towards the end. Right about the point where Blue Shift wrapped it up nicely and ended, Opposing Force decided it needed 1 more hour or so of aliens that run you down with OP weapons or just plain one shot you.
@@famowx if you ask me decay is weaker. The level design in that is just box and hallways and the enemy placement is horrible and the enemies are way too powerful, I get they did it because multiplayer but they didn't balance it out whatsoever, however people go crazy for decay because multiplayer even though sven co-op predated it by a couple of years. Now I know these issues aren't exclusive to the PC port because I've played through it on PS2 and it's just that poorly made
9:34 Almost gave me a stroke, lol. The slide locked back after the last round (I'm assuming because the hud seems to be a placeholder). Gordon then puts a magazine into the gun and hits the slide release, meaning it's ready to fire and reloaded. Then for no reason at all pulls the slide back, ejecting the chambered round and releasing the slide to be left with one less round. It seems Valve had an idea of how guns worked but was not very sure about it. Excellent video, by the way. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
A note on the 18 rounds on HL1's Glock: as with any other self-loading weapon, you get one extra round by insetring a magazine, loading a round, and replacing the magazine (now 1 round short) with a full magazine. You get 17 rounds in a magazine +1 round in the chamber. So, it was kind of true in HL1, where you got one extra round by reloading a full magazine, but the animation didn't show running the slide and loading a round (as most games do not show a true reloading cycle). Idea was correct, but the implementation of it was not.
Half life 1’s pistol was a side arm. You pulled it out to finish fleeing enemies or to cover yourself when the SMG needed to be reloaded. Half life 2’s pistol is the weapon you use until you get a better weapon.
@@crabsinyourshoes no he said he’ll pin the comment if someone finds a difference between the two builds. I think I may have been wrong tho, the distance is so short between him and the wall on the early build that the inaccuracy is probably still there, just less noticeable
Played Half-Life this year as my first FPS ever. For some reason I never knew that guns in shooters don't actually go where you point - I have a hard enough time actually aiming! No wonder I got so frustrated with the HL2 pistol right away. Good, clearly explained content!
The older versions of HL2 also had remnants of a scrapped alt fire for the USP, which was supposed to be just like Glock's alt fire. Due to some glitch in the retail version you could hold M2+M1, then release M2 after a few seconds to shoot several rounds simultaneously with a VERY tight spread. Too bad it was "fixed" somewhere around Ep2 release. It wasn't even all that broken, because you must've wait the same amount of time which would take to fire the same amount by holding just M1.
I find it funny how the pistol modeled after a regular pistol is laser accurate, yet the one modeled after a match gun (a gun literally designed for target shooting), is less accurate
The firing sound is weak and the gun feels like you're shooting airsoft bbs, even though I hate all of the half life 2 arsenal I'm willing to admit that the revolver and shotgun retained their feeling. I don't know what anybody means by the half life 2 pistol having power it's just not there or I'm missing something
@@Turbs94945 I have, what was it supposed to change, if I recall correctly the ammo for it was scarce from that point in that chapter. The pistol to me is never fun to use regardless of the situation I just think it's weak sounding, an ugly model, and overall no power feeling. Half life 1's pistol just was better in design it wasn't usless and the ammo didn't disappear at a certain point in the game because they did something smart and have the 9mm pistol of the game share the same ammo as the 9mm smg. 1's pistol isn't the greatest pistol in gaming by any means but I'll never understand anybody who likes the hl2 arsenal because it feels so rushed and tacky which makes sense considering half life 2 the version we got was made in under a year. In the beta most of the weapons were the same sounds and models of course but all those other weapons felt out of place because they had punch to them
@@JSmokesII Well it least on easy it can kill combine soldiers in 5 or 6 shots. The sound is great and the beautiful imo, it makes it better than HL1's pistol for me
@@TheFlodyo likely a case of being less experienced at first Then using the experience he gained from hl1 to realize “I think this would do better” And two hands it
Can't wait to see the video about Alyx's pistol, as it's your workhorse throughout the entire game. Always useful and it's accuracy is really only limited to how good you are yourself when with using it. Though it's kinda hard for it not to be useful throughout the entire game as Alyx only gives you 3 weapons (4 if you count the grenades) Though it does get better as you progress further into the game, with the upgrades to it. A neat idea from Valve I'd say. Instead of giving the player a ton of weapons, some of which will be useless as you progress further. Give the player a limited selection and make them useful the entire way. But also reward the player for exploring the levels as much as possible.
Hl2 leak’s usp is different on its reload animations, it’s kinda more sloppier than the release. The only difference aside from the brass eject. I love your videos.
Honestly when he started talking about “valve introducing things and then never having a reason to use them” kindve makes sense in the real world. Like if you got the rpg to take down a flying killing machine, and then having to run away. You’ll have this useless weight that you’ll have to drop off somewhere. But are you gonna give up a perfectly good dog? No! You’ll think it’ll be useful someday and keep it with you
There actually used to be a bug in earlier versions of half life 2 where you could do what was known as a ‘power shot’ with the pistol, where if you held down the right mouse button, then the left. He pistol wouldn’t fire until you released the right mouse button. If you held it long enough, you could fire the entire mag in one big shot. Supposedly at one point you could do it with the M16 in L4D1 could do the same thing, but I’ve never seen it myself
Gordon was awake for 3 whole days shooting things, running and killing in the first game, he then takes a nap and as soon as he wakes up its 20 years into the future but for him it's the 4th day I'd imagine at this point his skills have overloaded where he's so used to it and relaxed that he fires it with one hand
In older versions of half life 2 you could charge your shot with glock by holding left mouse button and right mouse button simultaneously, forcing it to shoot like a shotgun with all of its magazine ammo
Oh boii, The pistol in HL1 and mods is like my designated sniper, I love the ACC, but when I play HL2, for me the pistol succs but then think that it wass purposely nerfed for balance and I say ok and still play with a no-so useful pistol for long range combat -_- Cool video! now that we started to talk about the weapongs, maybe the shotgun with it's "double shot" mechanic could be a funny topic :)
Oh, ok, I didn't know that, it's abit hard to spot that but well, cool to know. There is also things like shotgun select icon and and how it looks in the HD version compared to classic/LD that can be a fun topic to talk :) Have a nice weekend!
Half-Life 1's by far. Far more accurate and uses an ammo type that's also used by the SMG (which, admittedly, isn't a great weapon in of itself). The one in Half-Life 2's is less accurate and uses an ammo type that becomes completely worthless come Highway 17. I always went out of my way to get rid of it.
@@lord157 Glock does more damage per shot, and because it is so accurate you can headshot grunts most of the time. Overall, SMG damage output is only better at the close range.
Also, the HL 1 is "fully auto" and it is great weapon against headcrabs. I think that HL1 weapons were superior to the HL2 ones, because every gun in HL1 had it's specific niche. Unlike in Hl2, where pistol and SMG were pretty bad and useless.
The HL2 pistol is my favorite pistol in any game, ever. Perfect visuals and sound and it fires as fast as you can press the left mouse button. That echo is just awesome.
9:44 "Try to find a real difference here." Okay. Pre-release pistol has stronger recoil. The camera actually sways upwards a smidge per shot. It also has a slightly longer reload. The reload sound is also broken/unfinished in pre-release, and actually wasn't fixed until steampipe came along.
I still think HL1's glock had the most detailed animations. If you fire until the mag's empty, the slide locks back when you reload. If you reload before the mag's empty, it doesn't lock back. I know it's a small detail, but it's tiny things like that which I appreciate the hell out of, it tells me the person making the animation actually knew how the average handgun works and did their best to replicate it in game, even though only weirdos like me would notice it.
I'd argue that most of half life 1's weapon animations are better than 2's actually,the ones in half life 2 look a little...robotic,idk how exactly to describe it but they look meh (especially the crossbow and shotgun)
you could credit Gordon always racking the slide of the Glock in old builds to his slight ineptness with guns, but the argument falls apart when you figure he knows how to operate an Exotic semi-auto/pump/double barrel SPAS 12, MP5, Crossbow, revolver two highly experimental particle-based energy weapons AND a symbiotic alien armgun
For the record, the reloading glitch was exclusive to the WON Version of the game. By the time it got ported to Steam they patched it out. However, it's still present in a lot of older mods, famously Azure Sheep.
If you take the guards along on your journey in Half Life, you get rewarded more than just killing them for ammo, because they have an unlimited supply of ammo for themselves. Also, they seem to consistently kill all of the vortigaunts you meet for the first time in Office Complex. There's a whole group, and yet you can literally just take a guard, trigger the vortigaunts, and hide in the room right before it. There's also the grenades and stuff you get in that room after meeting the first houndeyes that a scientist needs to open. Of course, if you reach a point where a guard won't or can't follow you anymore, you can kill them for the ammo.
HL2's pistol definetely wins. It might lack accuracy a TINY bit, but it's sheer powerfulness and that fact it looks beautiful outdoes the glock in nearly every way possible.
the funny thing is, in the late 90s the standard handgun of the united states armed forces was the Beretta M9, meaning for once the HD pack makes more sense. You really should apologize twice to Randall S. Pitchford for slandering him so thoughtlessly in this video
@@PurpleColonel also the beta clearly implies security guards are part of the military police smh smh fake fans you should delete your channel and go live in a hut
@@PurpleColonel yet every other gun in the black mesa armories is shared with the arsenal of the marines. It'd be stupid for the government to supply different weaponry to the security guards inside black mesa than what they're giving to the soldiers parked right outside black mesa. You just got owned with facts and logic, I'll accept a transfer of 300 reddit karma as a suitable apology on your part
What i loved about half life 2 pistol is definitely the rate of fire animation and sound, it gave this sense of being able to react definitely to danger and calm situations
i think overall i prefer the accuracy and usefulness of the hl1 pistol but i really love how you can just magdump the hl2 pistol like a fucking minigun
I remember when I first noticed that whenever I reloaded with MP5 I also lost pistol ammo. I thought it was a glitch and I got afraid of switching to my shotgun incase I lost half of my shells. I was really dumb.
9:36 the slide locks when empty and when you insert a new mag gordon uses the mag release to chamber a round or if you have reload with a chambered round there is no need to pull the slide. On both scenarios you will just expend a usable round so is better to have left the animation without pulling the slide
"Usually on the weaker side" just as it cuts away from the blood flare gun, arguably one of the single most OP starting weapons due to the secondary fire
For deathmatch, the pistol is the last thing to use. You can only use it when you are forced to engage combat with other players right after you spawn. Otherwise, it will only get you killed if you try to use it.
Are we not going to talk about the fact that Valve has no fucking idea how handguns actually work? *presses mag release button* *slide slides back and locks* I guess in Half Life 2 guns are powered by Vortigaunt space magic and not explosions and physics.
honestly, i prefer the half life 1 pistol, gun preference cause i like glocks, i like its secondary fire, its more accurate, it shares ammo, and it sounds meaty for a pistol, espically compared to hl2's pistol. it also EJECTS SHELLS, and the slide goes back when out of ammo like an ACTUAL PISTOL, oh yeah, hl2 pre release pistol uses a different reload sound, more accurate, different hud indication sprite, and i believe it cant fire as fast, id have to go check the beta itself to find out. oh yeah the reload is slower too. also no clue why, but uh the shell casing models, are way too big compared to the guns themselves, i have no clue why they would make them so big the shells in half life 1 are just as big as the magizene
Fun Fact: The pistol and the magnum both share the same sound effects, the only difference is that Valve sped it up/pitch shifted it. I found it out when working on a sound mod for HL2, as much as I love HL1's compressed sound effects I didn't wanted to make sounds have weird quality changes, then I tried mixing both HL2 and HL1's proper gun sounds and came out glorious. However when working on the magnum sound effect (and since both sounds had different lenght) I accidentaly sped up the sound too much and came out exactly like the pistol, works the same way in reversed using the pistol and slowing it down.
The Glock is better by a wide margin. Extremely accurate long-range hitscan with decent enough damage is useful throughout the entire game, especially for picking off wounded Alien Controllers, who I absolutely fucking hate. I use it so much in Xen that I end up with no ammo by the time I get to the final boss. The USP in comparison goes right into the garbage as soon as you get the MP7; it deals about the same damage with the same terrible accuracy, so why wouldn't you go with the gun that has more abundant ammo, bigger magazines, a higher rate of fire, and a fucking grenade launcher? The MP5 serves a different purpose for you than the Glock, but the MP7 replaces the USP entirely.
Something about the impactfulness of the weapons is what always influenced my enjoyment for using them, the Glock sounds as punchy as it deserves to be, it's slow but it's accuracy and damage output make up for it, meanwhile the USP sounds embarrassingly weak compared to the smg that it's shocking that the USP is stronger in terms of dps, because I feel like I'm slingshotting small pieces of hail more than I am shooting someone with a gun which actually does something with Half Life 2's... *Peashooter.*
Your talk of aesthetics is interesting. Just curious, if you have to choose a real handgun to model the pistol for the next half-life game, is there one that comes to mind. Personally, I like the general look of H&K pistols, specifically models chambered in 9mm.
Most likely since Half Life 3 would be set right after the ending of Half Life Alyx, it would most likely be the UPS Match again. Although if I had to pick a gun, I'd probably want to return to the Glock 17
1:43 in FAAAAAAAAACT you can get the pistol even EARLIER by pushing the security guard that won't let you proceed without your hazard suit near the elevator during anomolous materials and use said elevator to crush the security guard.
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My analysis would be that HL1’s pistol is like “pah-pah-pah-pah-pah-pah” while HL2’s pistol is more like “t’uh-t’uh-t’uh-t’uh”.
i hate that i understand this
pah-pah-pah-pah
**wild bullsquid appears**
pahpahpahpahpahpahpah
the hl2 one sounds like it has a suppressor but it doesn't
The HL2 pistol has always felt hollow and plastic to me and I've never liked it.
Fax
If Gordon wasn't using it with one damn hand it would be more accurate in HL2
Same with the AR2
@@jorymo4964 wut
@@HECU.Corpsman Gordon uses AR2 with one hand
@@Vivi-yw1eu so with that logic we can say that gordon uses the shotgun with one hand? in both games he does that
@@ola_ola._. it's merely a developer error, but if you want to go with it, yea I'd say it's not implausible considering HEV suit
On a semi-related note, the Half-Life 2 USP model and animations were used as a placeholder weapon early in the development of Cyberpunk 2077. There's a clip of it in their in-house bug-reel.
isn't Cyberpunk 2077 still early in development?
@@bogdanbucurean2087 well, people pressured the developers into releasing it as a buggy mess.
send me that link
@@TinyDeskEngineer no, they released the game to catch up with christmas sales
there's barely any records of anyone pressuring anyone at cd projekt red to release the game early, that's just an excuse for redditors to try and justify their hyped game being shit. besides, no company in their right mind would ruin their own motto just because people were being bullies, they're a corporation, not a personality, which is why they released it early: to catch up with christmas sales and make some money
The game wasn't released to hit Christmas, it was released to not miss the end of the console generation. They already had a deal with Microsoft to do CP2077 themed Xbox One X systems which had been manufactured the previous year. They couldn't leave it any longer, or else that deal would fall through.
9:48 Fun Fact: when Garry made Garry's Mod, he actually went out of his way to fix the missing shells issue. So, if you were to launch GMod, and pull out the pistol and shoot it, you'll notice that it does, in fact, eject shells.
P. S. I am surprised that this bug slipped through Valve's multiple bug-fixing updates that they periodically release, even to this day. I bet someone did get fired for this blunder.
Valve is known for cutting corners and doing things that don't make sense mechanically when it comes to weapons.
thanks Garry for making a Mod.
Ah I'm looking forward to this analysis, aren't you?
Are you thinking what i'm thinking?
Do you know who ate all the donuts?
@@FalkyRocket2222 nooooo...
Why do we have to wear these ridiculous ties?!
Have you submitted *your* status report to the administrator today?
I like that the HL1 Glock shares ammo with the MP5, that balances out the ammo system and makes them both reliable.
Edit: Thanks for the likes!
Especially that satisfying MP5 muzzle flash sound and the transparent Glock magazine
@@drcoomer3345 agreed man
@@aster1sk294 I disagree with you, the glock is still useful for weaker enemies like the zombies or headcrabs and is far more accurate than the mp5
@@aster1sk294 I disagree also, the Glock is more accurate while the MP5 is less accurate. You might take out the Glock for longer distance kill, while the MP5 is a quick death kill for up close enemies. With this strategy and the same ammo, you have to balance out and conserve that ammo. It makes the game more survival like and have that strategize edge.
@@aster1sk294 I disagree. Glock is better than MP5 at medium-long range. MP5's primary fire only performed best at short range.
Finally, FINALLY, I see someone use that greenscreen clip of Ross. Good man, good man.
Timestamp?
A man of culture indeed.
Personally, I like the sound better on the hl2 pistol, but the hl1 pistol feels like it's more powerful.
Yeah the glock sounds like a combinenation2 deagle with awp sniper
@@zherean42069 no it sounds like "pow pow pow" and sounds nothing like a gun but ok
I would argue Alyx's pistol is the best one
the hl1 glock is a lot more powerful, it does a lot more damage with headshots and is why the black ops ninjas are so damn hard to kill
Man it straight up is
Half Life Barnecals die in 4 shots
So you could either from afar fire 4 short with single mode or use burst when up close
Hl2's peashooter ass pistol takes forever to kill em
Geniunely fuked up my muscle memory
“I can’t wait to read the reviews for the Borderlands movie.” TODAY’S THE DAY!
😂😅
Actually, the HL2 pre-release USP is slightly shinier and has a slightly different texture from the release version.
That's exactly what I said bruh
its handle is darker too
the reload is also slightly longer in pre-release
@@kabeam5643 handle is GREENER
@@zeitgeistlime i dont see what the correction was, its still darker
The Glock working underwater is much more useful than you would think in maps with water in Deathmatch mode.
I managed to kill the fish in Apprehension using just the Glock (and I think I missed the crossbow too)
@@42carlos if you go the way you're supposed to you can't miss the crossbow.
problem is if you kill the ichthyosaur with your glock you actually have no need to follow that way anymore and basically skip it ^^
Its also insanely useful to kill the 2 fish in one pond in opposing force
I found out you can literally kill hecu soldiers with the glock
@@bukachell bruh u didnt know that?
Don't mind me - just commenting to inform the algorithm that this is quality content right here.
"quality"
@@deniz1603 What's wrong?
@@curple3 I think they somehow managed to not even get the first crowbar and played the whole game crowbarless, so finding out that there were two all along (maybe there's a third one inside the G-Man's briefcase? Who knows?)... it was just too much to handle. We should be empathise.
@@WK-47 "We should be empathise"
@@deniz1603 Ohhh, ya got me! I was trying to say 'should empathise' and 'should be empathising' at the same time, y'know, to give you the choice. It most definitely wasn't a typo.
It's okay if you're mad. I would be if I could only reply by quoting other comments. Is it what, a mental tic? Facebook image curse? Misdirected anger cos you hate pistols?
Whatever it is, I hope you get the help you need. We all just want the best for you. You gotta have a pistol, though.
interesting bug/glitch in HL2 where If you held the RMB, then the LMB it would build up every bullet until you released. Meaning you could mag-dump in 1 shot like a shotgun. It was pretty fun. Got patched out several years ago, but was a thing for many years post release iirc
6:28 aged perfectly
i gotta clip that
9:40
The USP’s reload animation is very slightly slower, and has a slightly different animation upon reload, as when the slide’s released, there’s a small hop-up in Freeman’s hand, in prerelease. Release fixed all that.
what about the stronger visual recoil in the beta?
oh, and... it's also less shiny now.
If you look closely too, the gun is also held in a different angle: in the developing version the gun was held more to the right meanwhile in the official version it is more in between the right and middle
Fun fact, the half life 2 pistol sound is a over amplified/ clipped 38 revolver sound file from the Hollywood edge hpx sound library. The half life 1 Glock is very similar to sound ideas Sonic boom guns gunshot sound, but I think it predates the launch of that library, so it's just a similar recording most likely. Left 4 dead 2 does heavily use Sonic boom gunshots for it's new guns though. Tf2 uses a mix of sources mixed together, from Hollywood edge premiere edition, Sonic boom gunshots, sound ideas series 6000 extension 1 gunshots and or sound ideas guns collection (same recordings across two different libraries, much like how the Sonic boom gunshots are also in the 50 cd Valentino sound effect library. Not sure which came first, but liscensing from sound designers recordings to multiple different sound libraries even of competing companies, is (well, was) quite common. These days smaller startups selling on new marketplaces are actually thriving while Hollywood edge was bought by sound dogs, and sound ideas now effectively bought Hollywood edge from them, sound ideas is really the only major player left, and they don't release much new original content often. They're less creator, more rights holder now. While boom library, sound morph, and many others are basically the new wave now. Alyx's pistol in the hl:alyx uses some boom library sounds but heavily designed. (not to be confused with sonic boom, Sonic boom is a sound ideas library, boom library is an entire sound effect recording and design team that publishes vst plugins and sound libraries)
is that why it sounds so puny despite being a 45
@@SomeGuy_SomewhereUSP Match is 9mm
2:23 huh, didn't know you were supposed to turn that switch off. Still leading things about this game!
Same lmao
So you just got electrocuted every time you played that section?
@@demogaming8895 yea just kind of like tank the damage and regret it later and the level
@@demogaming8895 lol yeah, I just shoot the vent from the counter then hop in.
@@zboi4859 trueeeeee
9:31 you don't have to rack the slide because the slide is locked back when reloading, the lock is released at the end of the reloading animation which would chamber a round.
good comment
"...a miserable, terrible pain? Speaking of Opposing Force..." LMAO
I do think it's the weakest of the three, especially towards the end. Right about the point where Blue Shift wrapped it up nicely and ended, Opposing Force decided it needed 1 more hour or so of aliens that run you down with OP weapons or just plain one shot you.
Oh boy, is it gonna be the new hip thing to shit on Opposing Force now?
@@fuzzydunlop7928, I don't, just found the joke in the video funny. Though I admit, OF is my least favorite from the series.
@@famowx if you ask me decay is weaker. The level design in that is just box and hallways and the enemy placement is horrible and the enemies are way too powerful, I get they did it because multiplayer but they didn't balance it out whatsoever, however people go crazy for decay because multiplayer even though sven co-op predated it by a couple of years. Now I know these issues aren't exclusive to the PC port because I've played through it on PS2 and it's just that poorly made
Are you guys high? Opposing force was better than the base game. More guns and plenty of new things to shoot at.
Man, I really like ur videos about half-life
same
Yep!
9:34 Almost gave me a stroke, lol. The slide locked back after the last round (I'm assuming because the hud seems to be a placeholder). Gordon then puts a magazine into the gun and hits the slide release, meaning it's ready to fire and reloaded. Then for no reason at all pulls the slide back, ejecting the chambered round and releasing the slide to be left with one less round. It seems Valve had an idea of how guns worked but was not very sure about it. Excellent video, by the way. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
A note on the 18 rounds on HL1's Glock: as with any other self-loading weapon, you get one extra round by insetring a magazine, loading a round, and replacing the magazine (now 1 round short) with a full magazine. You get 17 rounds in a magazine +1 round in the chamber. So, it was kind of true in HL1, where you got one extra round by reloading a full magazine, but the animation didn't show running the slide and loading a round (as most games do not show a true reloading cycle). Idea was correct, but the implementation of it was not.
i dunno the glock has been my favorite handgun in games for a while, there is just something about the design that i love
Kinda ugly but gets the job done, and done pretty well at that. That's why I like SR Q1's.
I also love design of the USP in general, such as the USP Tactical and Counter Strike and, well, the USP Match in HL2
One of the best pistol shoot sounds as well
3:50 best moment
18 clip was probably because when you reload while having 1 bullet in the chamber and adding a 17 clip
You get 18!
Yep technically all guns should follow this (except revolvers rpgs and break action)
@@Xenomorthian Open-bolt firearms, like MAC-10, are also an exception.
@@Soldier3856 Pretty good fact
That would be keen attention to detail but this is the same game where the SPAS-12 can fire "both barrels".
@@DShephard91 Not even gonna talk about the semi auto grenade launcher
Dude ,please make more Half-Life related content cuz im addicted to it :D
He makes a lot of Cascade videos already tho, you can't be more frequent lol
@@curple3 more... M O R E !
Half life 1’s pistol was a side arm. You pulled it out to finish fleeing enemies or to cover yourself when the SMG needed to be reloaded.
Half life 2’s pistol is the weapon you use until you get a better weapon.
9:44 100% ACCURACY BABBYYYYYYY
Where’s my pin
@@crabsinyourshoes no he said he’ll pin the comment if someone finds a difference between the two builds. I think I may have been wrong tho, the distance is so short between him and the wall on the early build that the inaccuracy is probably still there, just less noticeable
Nope you'll definitely not get pinned
@@XTRMXPRTKILR it’s been a month lol
@@XTRMXPRTKILR it’s been two months lol
Played Half-Life this year as my first FPS ever. For some reason I never knew that guns in shooters don't actually go where you point - I have a hard enough time actually aiming! No wonder I got so frustrated with the HL2 pistol right away. Good, clearly explained content!
The older versions of HL2 also had remnants of a scrapped alt fire for the USP, which was supposed to be just like Glock's alt fire.
Due to some glitch in the retail version you could hold M2+M1, then release M2 after a few seconds to shoot several rounds simultaneously with a VERY tight spread.
Too bad it was "fixed" somewhere around Ep2 release. It wasn't even all that broken, because you must've wait the same amount of time which would take to fire the same amount by holding just M1.
Supposedly TF2 had a similar exploit with the default pistol for the Engineer and Scout class
I find it funny how the pistol modeled after a regular pistol is laser accurate, yet the one modeled after a match gun (a gun literally designed for target shooting), is less accurate
"Speaking of Opposing Force" Holy shit that one caught me offguard
But why
I love how you can spam pistol in HL2 as fast as you want, firing sound is also good and it gives a punchy feeling to the gun
Finally someone who likes the HL2 pistol!
The firing sound is weak and the gun feels like you're shooting airsoft bbs, even though I hate all of the half life 2 arsenal I'm willing to admit that the revolver and shotgun retained their feeling. I don't know what anybody means by the half life 2 pistol having power it's just not there or I'm missing something
@@JSmokesII Use the pistol throughout all of Highway 17 and your opinion will change :)
@@Turbs94945 I have, what was it supposed to change, if I recall correctly the ammo for it was scarce from that point in that chapter. The pistol to me is never fun to use regardless of the situation I just think it's weak sounding, an ugly model, and overall no power feeling. Half life 1's pistol just was better in design it wasn't usless and the ammo didn't disappear at a certain point in the game because they did something smart and have the 9mm pistol of the game share the same ammo as the 9mm smg. 1's pistol isn't the greatest pistol in gaming by any means but I'll never understand anybody who likes the hl2 arsenal because it feels so rushed and tacky which makes sense considering half life 2 the version we got was made in under a year. In the beta most of the weapons were the same sounds and models of course but all those other weapons felt out of place because they had punch to them
@@JSmokesII Well it least on easy it can kill combine soldiers in 5 or 6 shots. The sound is great and the beautiful imo, it makes it better than HL1's pistol for me
Gordon holds the pistol with 2 hands in HL1. I rest my case.
But you know whats funny? In hl1 he one hands the revolver but in hl2 he uses both hands
@@TheFlodyo likely a case of being less experienced at first
Then using the experience he gained from hl1 to realize “I think this would do better”
And two hands it
3:57 I thought that was my Samsung Galaxy s20 Ultra 5G 8GB+128GB phone's notification ringtone.
bro had to specify 💀😭
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Can't wait to see the video about Alyx's pistol, as it's your workhorse throughout the entire game. Always useful and it's accuracy is really only limited to how good you are yourself when with using it.
Though it's kinda hard for it not to be useful throughout the entire game as Alyx only gives you 3 weapons (4 if you count the grenades)
Though it does get better as you progress further into the game, with the upgrades to it. A neat idea from Valve I'd say.
Instead of giving the player a ton of weapons, some of which will be useless as you progress further. Give the player a limited selection and make them useful the entire way. But also reward the player for exploring the levels as much as possible.
3:57 you can actually tell in his voice that he lost it xD
Whenever I play HL2, I almost exclusively use the Pistol until I get the Shotgun.
4:35 that ragdoll made me laugh so hard and i have no idea why
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@@igi1225 YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WTF HE FOUND ME BROOOO?!?!?@?@?
Your friends?
"Wouldn't that be such a pain?"
_"SPEAKING OF OPPOSING FORCE"_
Hl2 leak’s usp is different on its reload animations, it’s kinda more sloppier than the release. The only difference aside from the brass eject.
I love your videos.
That's kinda funny, this is the first video I see from this channel and it popped up after just watching the latest Ross Scott fan chat.
Honestly when he started talking about “valve introducing things and then never having a reason to use them” kindve makes sense in the real world.
Like if you got the rpg to take down a flying killing machine, and then having to run away. You’ll have this useless weight that you’ll have to drop off somewhere.
But are you gonna give up a perfectly good dog? No! You’ll think it’ll be useful someday and keep it with you
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There actually used to be a bug in earlier versions of half life 2 where you could do what was known as a ‘power shot’ with the pistol, where if you held down the right mouse button, then the left. He pistol wouldn’t fire until you released the right mouse button. If you held it long enough, you could fire the entire mag in one big shot. Supposedly at one point you could do it with the M16 in L4D1 could do the same thing, but I’ve never seen it myself
What I think the HL2 pistol missed is the two-hand hold, sound and fire rate, it didn't feel as good to use as the HL1 pistol does
Gordon was awake for 3 whole days shooting things, running and killing in the first game, he then takes a nap and as soon as he wakes up its 20 years into the future but for him it's the 4th day I'd imagine at this point his skills have overloaded where he's so used to it and relaxed that he fires it with one hand
In the pre-release of Half Life 2, the USP actually seems to have a glossy slide & dust cover, making it appear almost die-cast like.
Aight back after the borderlands movie and man oh man
In older versions of half life 2 you could charge your shot with glock by holding left mouse button and right mouse button simultaneously, forcing it to shoot like a shotgun with all of its magazine ammo
Oh boii, The pistol in HL1 and mods is like my designated sniper, I love the ACC, but when I play HL2, for me the pistol succs but then think that it wass purposely nerfed for balance and I say ok and still play with a no-so useful pistol for long range combat -_-
Cool video! now that we started to talk about the weapongs, maybe the shotgun with it's "double shot" mechanic could be a funny topic :)
It just shoots twice quickly, you can hear it in the sound effects :)
Oh, ok, I didn't know that, it's abit hard to spot that but well, cool to know. There is also things like shotgun select icon and and how it looks in the HD version compared to classic/LD that can be a fun topic to talk :)
Have a nice weekend!
@@PurpleColonel As far as I'm aware, that's only in the HD pack. Not in base HL or in HL2.
@@cheezkid2689 Trust me, you can hear it
I wasn't sure this video would give me such joy!
Great idea, decent narrative, cool features mentioned.
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Make such comparison for the other weapons too
Half-Life 1's by far. Far more accurate and uses an ammo type that's also used by the SMG (which, admittedly, isn't a great weapon in of itself). The one in Half-Life 2's is less accurate and uses an ammo type that becomes completely worthless come Highway 17. I always went out of my way to get rid of it.
the smg litreally replaces it after chapter 6.
@@lord157 Glock does more damage per shot, and because it is so accurate you can headshot grunts most of the time. Overall, SMG damage output is only better at the close range.
@@sir0herrbatka but the smg is really useful for handling grunts since it also stores grenades
Also, the HL 1 is "fully auto" and it is great weapon against headcrabs. I think that HL1 weapons were superior to the HL2 ones, because every gun in HL1 had it's specific niche. Unlike in Hl2, where pistol and SMG were pretty bad and useless.
The SMG is one of the best weapons in the game lmao found the dude that has never played on Hard
I always thought HL2 pistol was a futuristic version of the CT pistol in Counter Strike
The HL2 pistol is my favorite pistol in any game, ever. Perfect visuals and sound and it fires as fast as you can press the left mouse button. That echo is just awesome.
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A Glock can indeed hold 18 rounds like that if you reload before it's fully empty.
3:52 that was so unexpected, it got me wheezing
9:44 "Try to find a real difference here."
Okay.
Pre-release pistol has stronger recoil. The camera actually sways upwards a smidge per shot. It also has a slightly longer reload. The reload sound is also broken/unfinished in pre-release, and actually wasn't fixed until steampipe came along.
I still think HL1's glock had the most detailed animations.
If you fire until the mag's empty, the slide locks back when you reload.
If you reload before the mag's empty, it doesn't lock back.
I know it's a small detail, but it's tiny things like that which I appreciate the hell out of, it tells me the person making the animation actually knew how the average handgun works and did their best to replicate it in game, even though only weirdos like me would notice it.
I'd argue that most of half life 1's weapon animations are better than 2's actually,the ones in half life 2 look a little...robotic,idk how exactly to describe it but they look meh (especially the crossbow and shotgun)
you could credit Gordon always racking the slide of the Glock in old builds to his slight ineptness with guns, but the argument falls apart when you figure he knows how to operate an Exotic semi-auto/pump/double barrel SPAS 12, MP5, Crossbow, revolver two highly experimental particle-based energy weapons AND a symbiotic alien armgun
For the record, the reloading glitch was exclusive to the WON Version of the game. By the time it got ported to Steam they patched it out. However, it's still present in a lot of older mods, famously Azure Sheep.
If you take the guards along on your journey in Half Life, you get rewarded more than just killing them for ammo, because they have an unlimited supply of ammo for themselves. Also, they seem to consistently kill all of the vortigaunts you meet for the first time in Office Complex. There's a whole group, and yet you can literally just take a guard, trigger the vortigaunts, and hide in the room right before it. There's also the grenades and stuff you get in that room after meeting the first houndeyes that a scientist needs to open. Of course, if you reach a point where a guard won't or can't follow you anymore, you can kill them for the ammo.
I had a hearty laugh after the opposing force joke
6:28 that aged painfully
HL2's pistol definetely wins. It might lack accuracy a TINY bit, but it's sheer powerfulness and that fact it looks beautiful outdoes the glock in nearly every way possible.
Half-Life 2 pistol: annoying plastic
@@mehmetozturk9950 Go use the pistol throughout highway 17 then come back here.
@@Turbs94945 The HL 2 pistol is still plastic and uncomfortable The pistol in the HL 1 is more real and better
@@mehmetozturk9950 It looks beautiful and has great sound effects
@@Turbs94945 I disagree, looks can sometimes be unpromising, when it comes to the glock you want accuracy and more ammo capacity.
The pistol in the beta has a sheen on the gun and the hev suit, while in the retail it has been dulled down.
5:53 Good to know I'm not the only one that has that gripe with OF.
that's interesting, the pistol and chaingun in Doom work exactly like that, a single shot is perfectly accurate
the funny thing is, in the late 90s the standard handgun of the united states armed forces was the Beretta M9, meaning for once the HD pack makes more sense. You really should apologize twice to Randall S. Pitchford for slandering him so thoughtlessly in this video
Sir security guards in the Black Mesa facility ARE NOT part of the armed forces >:(
@@PurpleColonel you'd expect a government funded science facility to be supplied with standard issue weaponry by said government
@@PurpleColonel also the beta clearly implies security guards are part of the military police smh smh fake fans you should delete your channel and go live in a hut
@@liamblasko3164 the beta is NOT CANON!!! The glock is famous as a police weapon, it makes sense!!!!!!
@@PurpleColonel yet every other gun in the black mesa armories is shared with the arsenal of the marines. It'd be stupid for the government to supply different weaponry to the security guards inside black mesa than what they're giving to the soldiers parked right outside black mesa. You just got owned with facts and logic, I'll accept a transfer of 300 reddit karma as a suitable apology on your part
What i loved about half life 2 pistol is definitely the rate of fire animation and sound, it gave this sense of being able to react definitely to danger and calm situations
3:52 fucking killed me lmao
i think overall i prefer the accuracy and usefulness of the hl1 pistol but i really love how you can just magdump the hl2 pistol like a fucking minigun
How did I never notice the SMG and pistol shared ammo
I was always getting to Xen and wondering why I had so little pistol ammo left
I remember when I first noticed that whenever I reloaded with MP5 I also lost pistol ammo. I thought it was a glitch and I got afraid of switching to my shotgun incase I lost half of my shells. I was really dumb.
Pistol designed around 3 shots.. WAIT. Valve used 3.
9:36 the slide locks when empty and when you insert a new mag gordon uses the mag release to chamber a round or if you have reload with a chambered round there is no need to pull the slide. On both scenarios you will just expend a usable round so is better to have left the animation without pulling the slide
"Usually on the weaker side" just as it cuts away from the blood flare gun, arguably one of the single most OP starting weapons due to the secondary fire
For deathmatch, the pistol is the last thing to use. You can only use it when you are forced to engage combat with other players right after you spawn. Otherwise, it will only get you killed if you try to use it.
Are we not going to talk about the fact that Valve has no fucking idea how handguns actually work?
*presses mag release button*
*slide slides back and locks*
I guess in Half Life 2 guns are powered by Vortigaunt space magic and not explosions and physics.
I like hl1’s better because it’s actually reliable while hl2’s is about as accurate as flat earth
Nice roast, ngl
I always liked the pistol sound more when it was fired by the metrocops
I had a CD copy years ago of half life that let you reload the Glock even at full ammo. I loved it. I guess the steam version doesn't support that?
You can also kill the first guard in unforeseen consequences by pushing him into the exploding computer.
Last time I've been this fast was when i ran away from the doctor's office after finding out that I'm constipated when i was 6
Wow, a video with a unique style about a semi interesting thing with humor which doesn't assume you are a toddler, instant sub.
FYI: semi interesting is praising
4:56 Avenge Laszlo
What ive always questioned was why the silenced pistol on Team Fortress had such a slow firing rate. You could only shoot one bullet every 10 seconds
Who knows, it's Team Fortress Classic
honestly, i prefer the half life 1 pistol, gun preference cause i like glocks, i like its secondary fire, its more accurate, it shares ammo, and it sounds meaty for a pistol, espically compared to hl2's pistol. it also EJECTS SHELLS, and the slide goes back when out of ammo like an ACTUAL PISTOL, oh yeah, hl2 pre release pistol uses a different reload sound, more accurate, different hud indication sprite, and i believe it cant fire as fast, id have to go check the beta itself to find out. oh yeah the reload is slower too. also no clue why, but uh the shell casing models, are way too big compared to the guns themselves, i have no clue why they would make them so big the shells in half life 1 are just as big as the magizene
The secondary fire on the glock was AWFUL, even at close range. And that point just use the SMG lol
"who has the better pistol?"
Alyx.
Fun Fact: The pistol and the magnum both share the same sound effects, the only difference is that Valve sped it up/pitch shifted it.
I found it out when working on a sound mod for HL2, as much as I love HL1's compressed sound effects I didn't wanted to make sounds have weird quality changes, then I tried mixing both HL2 and HL1's proper gun sounds and came out glorious.
However when working on the magnum sound effect (and since both sounds had different lenght) I accidentaly sped up the sound too much and came out exactly like the pistol, works the same way in reversed using the pistol and slowing it down.
The Glock is better by a wide margin. Extremely accurate long-range hitscan with decent enough damage is useful throughout the entire game, especially for picking off wounded Alien Controllers, who I absolutely fucking hate. I use it so much in Xen that I end up with no ammo by the time I get to the final boss. The USP in comparison goes right into the garbage as soon as you get the MP7; it deals about the same damage with the same terrible accuracy, so why wouldn't you go with the gun that has more abundant ammo, bigger magazines, a higher rate of fire, and a fucking grenade launcher? The MP5 serves a different purpose for you than the Glock, but the MP7 replaces the USP entirely.
Nah bro, Striders still suck in episode 2. That section was dreadful. Good video!
The striders part in episode 2 was way worse than the part where you have to escort citizens in ep1. Change my mind.
I actually enjoyed that chapter. The striders are fun to fight, and once you know what you're doing, you won't have a chance of losing.
The phil swift shitpost was perfect
hl2 pistol used to be abled to do charge shots due to a glitch on alt fire
5:01 Ah yes my favourite weapon the machinegun!
Something about the impactfulness of the weapons is what always influenced my enjoyment for using them, the Glock sounds as punchy as it deserves to be, it's slow but it's accuracy and damage output make up for it, meanwhile the USP sounds embarrassingly weak compared to the smg that it's shocking that the USP is stronger in terms of dps, because I feel like I'm slingshotting small pieces of hail more than I am shooting someone with a gun which actually does something with Half Life 2's... *Peashooter.*
Felt like the complete inverse for me
The irony of modelling a weird, sport-specific match shooting pistol and then giving it middling accuracy.
Your talk of aesthetics is interesting. Just curious, if you have to choose a real handgun to model the pistol for the next half-life game, is there one that comes to mind.
Personally, I like the general look of H&K pistols, specifically models chambered in 9mm.
Most likely since Half Life 3 would be set right after the ending of Half Life Alyx, it would most likely be the UPS Match again. Although if I had to pick a gun, I'd probably want to return to the Glock 17
1:43 in FAAAAAAAAACT you can get the pistol even EARLIER by pushing the security guard that won't let you proceed without your hazard suit near the elevator during anomolous materials and use said elevator to crush the security guard.
2:54 Doesn't seem like a mistake to me as that other bullet could be the one in the chamber
Yeah it wasn't, it was just removed because people thought it was a bug and complained about it endlessly, and Valve removed it to calm people down.
the nonchalant way you said “the Japan-exclusive Half-Life arcade port” is _amazing._
That's not even intentional, I just forget how insane some of these things sound to people who don't know about them