Bristleback - Starfield Heavy Cargo Hauler Scratch-built Vanilla Ship Full Build Guide 100k Capacity
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
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I'm shocked and humbled that you all have enabled my channel to reach over 1,000 subscribers. To honor this milestone, I gave myself a goal to build a ship that can enable you to haul 100,000 units of cargo AND be capable of defending itself. To show you exactly how to build this massive cargo hauler, I slapped together this step-by-step guide that you can follow.
The Bristleback is a Starfield endgame Vanilla ship you can build from the ground up starting with any ship you already have. Minimum requirements for building the exact ship that I have created are:
Character level 60
Rank 4 Piloting skill
Rank 4 Starship Design skill
Rank 4 Payloads for the full 100k cargo capacity
Roughly 1 million credits
Thank you all so much for the support, and all of the feedback that I've received. I have more ship builds in the works and have some good ideas for other types of content that I hope you'll enjoy as well.
Basilisk full build guide: • Basilisk - Starfield D...
Basilisk optimization guide: • Basilisk Optimization ...
00:00 Introduction and Build Directives
02:33 Deimos Parts
05:20 Nova Galactic Parts
10:48 Stroud Eklund Parts
16:16 Outpost Landing Pad Parts
31:34 Interior Walkthrough
34:07 Final Overview
36:13 Combat Showcase 
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Ok, this is important because for expensive ships this adds up: If you go through the whole UC questline and become a Class One citizen, you get additional vendor bonuses in UC territory. That includes the ship services. If you buy one Galleon S204 at your outpost, you pay 8624 credits, vs. 7761 at the Jamison space port (commerce rank 4 applied). For a single unit that doesn't matter much, but just multiply that by the number of cargo holds the Bristleback needs... So while you might not get everything you want at New Atlantis, do make use of that discount if you can.
I forget, does this only apply to New Atlantis vendors or any vendor in a UC system?
@@WizeOldWizard IT works with the ship service on the Den, so I think it would work anywhere in UC territory. That's also what Tuala said at the end of the quest chain.
Спасибо большое,вы лучший строитель кораблей в Starfield!!
That is supremely generous of you to say. Thank you for watching!
This will be awesome for my late game outpost building. Just carry supplies from each outpost to create the next one. Very cool build and well done. Thank you again.
It will be great for sale runs too. Thanks for watching!
I'm currently at this step, but am in the process of adding cargo links to reduce trips--->" Just carry supplies from each outpost to create the next one."
Just about to set out to build a resource hauler as I am starting to build outposts all over and hate having to ping pong back and forth for everything... and I freaking love this! it is like a spacefaring 18 wheeler with that front mounted cab forward design. So so great... all your Starfield content and builds are top notch!
This is definitely the one you want if you plan to fly your cargo hauler. On the other hand, if you aren’t worried about actually flying it and would rather just have the most cargo you can get, the Slab would be the ship for you.
Cheers man, thanks for watching!
You, fine sir, are a Starfield Engineering and Art Master. All of my characters wish they could apprentice with you to learn even a fraction of your skill.
The Bristelback is a brilliant cargo hauler. Nice work.
Thank you very much, hopefully you and your characters are enjoying the online tutorials! I’m working on a big guide right now. Not a ship, but it will hopefully be helpful.
So I admittedly enjoy this build. I wish the build video was more laid out like your others. “Go get x, y, and z.. delete it all and build like this. “ but, overall a damn good build with mild modification. Expensive.. but worth it for mass resource collection / outpost building.
I know man, it was my second build guide and I hadn’t yet figured out that format. I’ve learned a lot since then. Your comment also tells me that I’m making the right kind of progress.
I love these ship builds! Keep up the great work!
Thank you! More on the way.
Thanks for sharing, I really enjoyed creating this cargo ship with you.
Thank you for watching!
Looks like a bad ass cargo hauler, nice!
Just as great as your previous video, thanks! Can't wait for more 🙂
Thank you! I’ve got more cookin.
Great Build! I would move that rear cannon, it doesn’t seem to fire that much.
It does, the beam just isn’t always visible.
Thanks for watching!
Love your ship builds this is the second one I've taken inspiration from!
Thank you! I have a pure fighter ready and another taking shape in my head. But I feel I need to provide different type of guide first…
Another great build. I just finished my version of the Basilisk last night. Swapped a couple of habs, went with my preferred weapons loadout, but the big change I made was using the NG-20 landing gear. Gave me some extra space to add shielded cargo capacity. I might have to try this next since I've got a Plutonium nine and comm relay manufacturing setup for credits and xp, and I'm always right on the edge of cargo capacity.
With that much resource to haul, you could definitely make use of this one.
Sounds like a great adaptation of the Basilisk too! Thanks for watching! It’s the engagement with the community that makes me want to make more. Cheers!
Of All the high cargo capacity ships I've seen this one at least doesn't look like a bug square box with a cockpit at one end. Great job!
That was the main goal other than reaching 100k capacity. Thanks!
Me coming across your videos inspired me to move the game from my external hdd back to the internal drive & give Starfield another walk around the park. Been a couple months since I’ve played it. Thanks for the content
Excellent timing! I’m about to release my redesign of the Razorleaf, and will have another fighter to follow that up soon after.
Happy to inspire, thank you for watching!
Thx, good job😊
Thanks for watching!
No sir, thank you for your time and the awesome ships.
Glad you dig them! The next build is coming soon and it is a hell of a ship.
🤔 I'll check it out, thanks for the tip.
Absolutely!
I did the quest to get this ship just to make it for my end game play thru. This ship rocks, slowly but it rocks. Thank you for you hard work.
My pleasure, and thank you for watching!
I’m working on another big bad ship that is not built around maximum cargo but rather having the roomies interior that uses every hab. Respectable cargo space while retaining excellent mobility.
Nice bro!
Appreciate it!
Has the mobility of those asteroids. Subbed
Haha idk man some of those asteroids bounce around pretty fast
Thank you Thank you Thank you this is an awesome Hauler I was worried because I’ve gotten so used to flying around in your Basilisk ship and never losing another space battle again that the Hauler with 0 mobility would suffer but it’s like easy mode Now I have 2 awesome ships You Rock!
Hell yeah man, I try not to sacrifice too much in one area.
Citadel coming soon…
Awesome build. I replicated it and used it as a 'colonizer'. I loaded up all my resources, landed on a desired planet, and set up outpost from the materials in the hold. It worked great! Can't wait for your next one.
That… would actually be an awesome name for the ship! You’re going to need the Colonizer for my next guide. Thanks for watching!
That's a great purpose for this build. I'm building his Basilisk tonight, after that I'll have to build my funds up again and I'll have to build one of these big boys.
Think I just found my new Lodge 😊 have to go make some bucks first though...
Do you have a Vytinium mine setup yet? I have a guide for that if you don’t…
@@WizeOldWizard I had one, but Cargo Links are super laggy on Xbox. I opted for Rothcite Magnets instead. Fewer outpost, lower Planetary Habitation requirement, and you can basically do it all in one system and then just import the Rothcite manually. You lose 3xp per item but save a ton of headache and lag.
Love your videos and builds. Just got the Razorleaf last night to redo that one.
Nice! Thank you!
Very Nice
Thanks for watching!
You can use your ship to terraform planets, just take off a few times on the polar ice caps LOL
Would definitely melt a cap haha
Omg hahaha 😆 😂 🤣 😅 💓
Thanks for the meticulous and thorough walk-through. I made the warship from the previous video for a balanced ship and I'll probably make this as a super cargo ship. Both look awesome
Thank you for watching and I’m glad you dig it!
It’s about the cleanest large ship I’ve seen…nice job…keep up the good work 👍🏻
Wait til you see the Citadel. Much cleaner than this and right at the max module limit.
@@WizeOldWizard I’ll have my bell 🔔 on. Have any idea when?
@user-ez7sc9wf8y working on the edit right now. Will be out this week for sure!
Haven't built it yet but it looks impressive. Well thought out.
Looking forward to building my own this evening.
Still enjoying the Basilisk and patrolling Serpentis for victims.
Excellent, that’s still my favorite. But when you have need for cargo, this things will serve you very well. Thanks for watching!
Aww dude that pit viper looks cleeeaaaannnnn
Good eye, that’s gonna be a future build. For those that prefer purpose-built ships over a do-all, the Bristleback needs a counterpart.
Nice!
Thanks!
Looks like an absolute unit
It can definitely move some cargo. Slowly. Hahaha
@@WizeOldWizard when everything you need is on your ship you don't need to rush anywhere!
@@andrbobr very true, I do love dogfighting though.
Awesome the way to build. Being in each port to do it. Dude u have sub. Keep going making builds like that
Your support is greatly appreciated! More guides coming up.
Would love to see that next ship you shown sneak pick of at the beginning of the video. Looks like fun thing to play with.
Definitely going to show that build soon!
Woah-h-h now THAT is a HAULER!!! :O I was in my 'low 20's rank' when I stumbled across a huge pirate hauler (The Freestar Venture), which has 4127 cargo but not the greatest defense... I'm going to take some of your ideas as a basis to rebuild my ship into a ladder-less fortress of a cargo freighter! Outstanding details and patience to explain, you've got a new scribe!!
Thank you for watching and subscribing!
I’ve got another juicy build coming up really soon.
Challenge idea:
Would love to see your take on a cruise ship. Doesn’t have to be big, in fact could be small like the ones the pilgrims use, but needs plenty of space for passengers, modern amenities, great views of space, and absolutely no offensive weapons, it’s a civilian vessel after all so should take a “defend and run away” approach to combat.
Asymmetrical look for bonus points.
I made your basilisk build and like your designs. 🙂
I like this idea, I’ll keep that in mind. Hadn’t even thought of a ship like that. Thank you!
Might need to wait for Trident dlc to do it properly...
Awesome build! I've been working on outposts and my ship's max cargo isn't anywhere near this. Headed off to build this! Thank you and have my sub.
Thanks for watching! It should meet your hauling needs.
when you sell/delete parts from a ship, you can buy them back at the same price they were sold for, until you run out of items you sold/deleted. eg; delete the 2 stroud caps, delete the other parts, there will be 2 stroud caps to buy back. the shop resets to its normal inventory only after you leave the build screen.
more than "favor", turrets just can't fire at anything not in the arc they're pointed at. (you'd assume that a "turret" could fully rotate 360 in a circle, and 90 straight up... but i guess that would be too complicated? -shrug- )
if someone felt they "needed" some shielded cargo, they could stuff some into the cubbyhole at the back, just above the rear turret. it won't ever have the capacity for a "smuggling" ship, but it could fit if they wanted it.
love the overall design; really looks and feels like a cargo hauler should. sucks that the mobility on any ship this size is gonna be zero, but what are you gonna do without modding it, right? and those turrets seem to more than make up for the lack of turning speed. (lmao at the way it just bounces off a couple of asteroids in the combat footage... yay for the super realistic physics xD )
gonna have to put one of these together myself, later, and try it out. thanks for the ideas!
You’re absolutely right, the only reason I didn’t temporarily remove and reattach anything was to avoid confusion about which parts I was adding at each location. That’s a good point though, and I missed an opportunity! Thank you for your feedback.
Wow!
Thanks!
So I have built this ship on my old character and started a rothicite magnet farm making around 15000 magnets every round (which takes a very long time). This ship can hold all of it and with max Astrodynamics skill it can actually go from Carinae II-a to Hyla VII-a which is all the distance I need to travel to get around to all my outposts and collect resources. With my perks I maxed particle beam and automated weapons systems and now combat is not an issue. Before that though, you should avoid it because this ship isn't a battleship. I must say this is worth a million dollars and can pay for itself in a few gaming sessions if you have the patience. Great job putting this together Wizard and thank you again.
Oh man that’s the one skill I haven’t touched, Automated Weapons Systems plus Particle Beam Weapon Systems together must make those turrets devastating!
I see I click I like! Thanks a lot for your awesome build will try as soon I have my creds ready 👍🏻
I’m putting together a video that should help with that.
Aaaand cargospace is full 😂 but I guess it won't get any better than this cargo wise. Keep up the good work I'm looking forward to any future projects!
@@schnitzelUSB that’s gotta be some kind of record! Thanks very much for watching, I’m going to do my best to keep coming up with content.
@@WizeOldWizard vytrium rod farm I won't say more 😂 will stay tuned ✌🏻
@@schnitzelUSB damn hats-off to you, that’s a monumental endeavor. How many outposts does that require?
That is a sweet build great video
Working on a video to help with that!
Just wondering why you left that turret so deep in the back or did I miss something you said where you fired that one? You can cut a dime with a reverse thruster and push RB on the controller. I'm not sure about the keyboard or what that button is.
@@IceMan2035 I’m well aware of thruster turns, problem is the ship recovers from directional changes very slowly and has terrible acceleration. The rear turret is for covering the rear of the ship.
Thanks
Thank you and thank you! More planned.
Tight
Your time and effort are appreciated, it's a lot of work creating content. I have a channel and it's seemingly hit or miss lol. Keep up the great work, thank you.
I thought I replied to you but seems like they didn’t go through? Either way, thanks a bunch for watching!
@@WizeOldWizard you did lol, I should have combined my comments. That was a separate response 😅
@@kilvarough got it haha I thought youtube was messin with me
Wiz as this game expands and the player count explodes your channel will! Your builds whether it’s ships or outposts are amazing. When are they going to make it so Spacers etc siege your outposts? This game needs some real-time strategy elements.
Oh it does happen, have you watched my Citadel build guide? I was completing the interior tour when I noticed explosions in my base.
I certainly hope you’re right! I mean, for me, it already feels like it’s exploded. I never anticipated earning 1,000 subs much less the 7k+ that I have now. Thank you for the optimistic and uplifting comment!
This guy is great at making ships. But did he make this voice over after a 12 hour shift? He sounds exhausted
Usually, yes. Also, trying to maintain a consistent volume so that editing the voiceover levels doesn’t take so long is a lot harder than you may think.
Just wanted to say, awesome build. It's my regular ship for hauling things to sell. I had 678k creds, but had to wait for more to put that second layer of cargo on. Watching the video, I said "how's he going to get... you have to be kidding me." It's a lot of cargo, ha. I went with the HopeTech structural "flat piece" with the weapon mount, on the back. I also went with the Deimos cowling on the front under the cockpit. I dropped a couple of cargo to move the overhang over the cockpit back one. And I used the Taiyo reverse thrusters to fill in the open spots by the back engines. If that makes sense. Thanks for taking the time for the vid.
Thank you, I’m glad it is serving you well! It is for sure not the prettiest but, believe it or not, I just finished a new cargo build that has DOUBLE the capacity of the Bristleback. I wanted to see what the absolute maximum possible cargo ship could hold, and so it is primarily landers and cargo. No weapons, no shield, one engine, and just one hab strictly for attaching the docking port and landing bay. It is also at the module limit and not a single structural part was used.
@@WizeOldWizard, good grief. You'll need a credit mod to sell all that for sure.
I already had a cargo ship that I was working on, so it was cheaper to start with it than starting with the Kepler. I'm going to look at the Citadel for the Kepler overhaul, but I need to see if my brain can handle the landing gear being only in the back of the ship... how does it not tip over... lol. Thanks again.
I know exactly what you mean, and I think the same way. Based on the virtual mass of the ship’s parts, the center of gravity would be roughly 2/3 to 3/4 rearward of center. The front most landing gear are ahead of the midpoint, and the engines and reactor are positioned completely behind the landers. Not to mention the front half of the ship is mostly empty space, with that big negative space in the middle. Call me insane, but I do consider shit like that lol.
@@WizeOldWizard, well now. I'll have to trust the engineer, and go with it's a sound design and what I'm perceiving is an optical illusion. I see here at Staryard Wizard, the engineers boast their skills with these unique designs. lol
Just built the Citadel. It totally make sense when you see it in game. Cheers!
Thanks Wize - made it and will make it my own. Just gotta get those last couple of payload skills done but 80k worth of cargo is more than enough. For me I only needed 18+4 landing gear. I didn't notice the surplus 1x1 and deleted the gear before I deleted that. I'm not sure how the bonuses work but I'm assuming I won't need that extra one. These designs are great and I had been saving up a million credits in anticipation of this build.
Hope you enjoy it! I’m wondering if I should make a credit/xp guide before I publish the next build…
@@WizeOldWizard if you have the time. It's always interesting to see how people do it. eg someone posted the other day how they can get to Level 85 in an hour with an outpost or two and crafting.
@@mattn7415 I’m gonna do everyone one better. Won’t just be an outpost or two.
I made my own variation of the basilisk and its really nice. I would love to see more builds. FYI I didn't finish diplomatically and I still have 6830s or whatever unlocked.
Also you can decide where things attach, just like pc, but using a controller. Hover over an attachment point, press and hold both triggers and press a.
Hmmm, I read somewhere that you have to. Were you diplomatic at all? Maybe just at the end?
Using the triggers didn’t work for me.
Awesome Ship design and Idea! Could you make a big battleship type ship next? Or maybe a ship design based around only one manufacturer, like a deimos only ship or taiyo only ship.
Excellent ideas, thank you!
Amazing build overall, definitely taking notes on this one. Funny how there's no collision damage in this game.
There is, it’s just small. Especially compared to SC where a little nudge on a little asteroid can easily spell instant doom.
Mobility Tip: your turning ratio is optimized at the halfway mark (white zone in the center of your “speedometer”).You turn faster if you’re not at top speed. Long range weapons preclude the need for such a speedy approach (it’s better to fire beyond their return fire range), particularly with those multidirectional turrets. You just want to be within the turrets’ firing radius on a flyby. This weapon placement is ideal for a low mobility build. Think Star Destroyer rather than X-Wing. Please share any feedback on testing.
Thanks for watching! I'm aware of the ideal mobility throttle zone, but to be honest, the Bristleback is so heavy that I would rather maintain speed then gain a smidge of turning ability simply because the ship takes CENTURIES to accelerate. Better to stay moving and just let the turrets do the work. It's surprisingly fun to fly.
I love the horizon forbidden west nod!
It's also a creature in Skyrim, I find a wide variety of inspiration.
Thanks for watching!
Inspiration?! Nah I’ve built both of these top to bottom both are in my garage. Looking forward to the next one
Dang man thank you, that’s awesome! I hope you’re enjoying them!
I’ve tried it from scratch, I suck at it. So yeah you haven’t missed so far. Got yourself a new subscriber
@@otissanders2624 very much appreciated.
You can get an extra bed by swapping the positions of the 3x2 and the 3x1 living quarters. In your build, the doorway between them is replacing one of the beds. If you swap them, the door will be behind the pool table.
My underworked and overpaid crew can sleep in shifts, they’re fine.
I redid my star eagle. Used that cockpit well the 30.2 ares. Love it..
And used the 2x2 battle and 3x2 mess hall (but might change it just like the open feel. Battle star galatica i should build.
Love huge ships on star citizen
Same man, SC was my first real space sim type game. I have a Perseus in my hangar that I can’t wait to fly.
@WizeOldWizard I haven't logged on in a long time. I blew alot of money on ships 🤣 I use to game together with friends. I don't think they been on so I haven't logged in. I wanted new stargate game to use star citizen universe just add gates.. there was a stargate game a guy was making by himself years ago. Ud have to put in a worlds address to get there but he abandoned it.
I bet a build remodeling the Kepler R would be popular considering most people find it horrendous.
Do you mean keeping the style but fixing the design?
It’s really the layout that is all over the place
@@pie2nd12 I never even went in the kepler to check it out. Such an ugly ship with terrible stats.
I plan to use this ship to transport all of my mined materials to a nice planet to build my Living Outpost!
Have you found what planet you’re settling on yet?
Not yet. I’ve got several mining operations transporting materials back to my main mining operation on Bessel III b. From there I’ll transport everything to where ever my home base ends up. I stumbled across a couple temperate planets in the Bradbury system but haven’t really explored them yet. Bradbury is just to the “east” of Bessel.
@@HawkSnake23 nice, I’m planning a multi-outpost production operation, and have been toying with the idea of a ‘home base’ build on a beautiful planet. I have been looking for planets with tropical or forested environments.
I finished my build in this ship. Not quite at level 60 so I had to use different grav drive, reactor, and didn’t have the obliterator alpha turrets. Other than that everything is the same and has 86k+ cargo capacity. Painted mine Helo Drab Green with some gold accents.
Called it the Pavehawk
I was quite happy with the Bristleback until today, when I wanted to haul a bunch of stuff to a new outpost on Charybdis. And then I learned that I couldn't make the jump from Ixyll to Zosma due to only 19LY in range. So now I have to decide if I somehow build back mass on the Bristleback to get more jump range or just build a smaller version of it.... I wonder what the max mass of a ship can be to maintain a 30LY range.
If you have max astrodynamics and sarah morgan, the only jump I’ve found it can’t make is to Katydid. But if the Bristleback won’t reach, make the jump in another ship, set your outpost, and everything you can fit in the Bristleback will still be available.
You can absolutely remove some cargo mass too, I mainly wanted to see if it was possible to build a ship capable of hauling that much, so if you don’t need all that space, strip ‘er down!
@@WizeOldWizard yeah, about that astrodynamics skill... 😁 Haven't spent a single point there because so far, Sarah was sufficient to get me everywhere.
@Andy_from_de rank yours up and I guarantee it’ll get you nearly anywhere. Before I started my new playthrough I was flying the Bristleback a lot and had no issue getting around, except to Katydid. That’s one of if not the longest single jump in the game.
I just can't bring myself to create a ship with zero manuverablity. This absolutely does work though.
I’m the same way, but there’s also no reason to avoid it if you have any need for a large amount of cargo space. This wouldn’t be the first ship I build nor would it be the ship that I normally fly. It has a very specific purpose.
Honestly it’s not that bad…. With auto turrets I still can cruise in Serpentes on very hard and live easily
@@kalancosta7650 oh yeah 100%. I just prefer dogfighting. Either way, I’m not going to build a ship that’s defenseless.
@@WizeOldWizard I have a fighter as well plus a autotyrret cargo ship (about 50k cargo lol)
Hello Wizard. Thanks for the hard work. I'm almost finishing my tier 1-2-3 manufactory on my outpost, but sometime I need to transport a lot of material.. so of course, once more, I will follow your ideias!
Do you mind to say, something close is enough, how much to build this one will gonna cost ? Thanks again!
I think I listed the cost somewhere on this one, I guess I did not make it clear enough. Apologies. Either way you’ll need at least a million credits, and I think I had Commerce rank 4 at the time of building. If you fill this ship with materials to sell you can make those credits back easy using the Bristleback.
should be called The Behemoth!
Maybe I have a Behemoth already planned? Lol I just wanted to use those radiators on the top and they gave it a bristly appearance. Saw an opportunity.
Bethezda shoud put large and big and huge and legendery landing bay on the maps for Bigest ship that are already made and then they nedd to put them in game for like 1 mil + credits to buy them :)
Lots of opportunity for Bethesda to expand on the ship building system and available modules.
They need to make a ship pack dlc 😍
I love your ship designs! I've built seven of them. They've really helped me up my Starfield game.
I've got a question for you. I noticed something about turret performance watching the combat run in this video. It seems that only ONE turret system will fire at any time.
I realize that only the PBO-300 Auto Alpha Turrets point forward and only the Obliterator 250MeV Alpha Turrets point rearward on the Bristleback, so it makes sense that only one system will fire at enemies that are in front or behind the ship.
BUT when the enemies are flying past on the left or right, I expected both systems to fire. They don't. Watching the power reserves on the HUD, only the PBO's fire. The energy of Obliterators doesn't change - it stays right at 100, full charge. I think there was one point where the PBO's reached ZERO energy and the Obliterator's started firing, but the enemy was destroyed (or flew out of range) right at that point, so I'm not sure what I saw.
In my play throughs using other ships with multiple turret systems, I've noticed the same behavior: only one turret system will fire even if more than one system has a clear shot at the enemy. I THINK a second turret system will fire AFTER the first system has depleted its energy. It's so weird and hard to replicate that I can't be sure. Is this known behavior? Any insights would be appreciated.
Thanks for all your hard work!
Man, thanks a bunch! It’s always satisfying to receive feedback like this.
I wish I could offer more insight into these behaviors that you’ve described, but this is the only ship that I’ve used more than one group of turrets on, and I’ve only tried using one group of turrets on other ships. I have never been happy with the performance of them so I always remove them in favor of another weapons group at my control. The game even states that turrets are less effective than pilot guns.
My only guess is this: it’s possible that only one target can be fired on by each turret group. I’m assuming that because of all the encounters that I had in the Bristleback, none of them were against a larger group of enemies, such as at The Key. Now I’m curious to experiment with this, as the one benefit I can find to using turrets is that they benefit from the skills related to that damage type AND the turret systems skill. Maybe those in conjunction could make turrets more viable. I’ll be keeping this in mind for a future build for sure.
Thanks for watching and for your engagement!
@@WizeOldWizard I think you're on to something: that each target can only be attacked by one turret system. That would explain it.
I really want to like turrets, but I can't seem to optimize their performance. I recently tested different placements on the ship. It did affect how often they fire. For forward firing turret placement, using the Nova weapon mounts and putting turrets right out in front of the ship increases their targeting/fire rate over placing them in the same forward-firing orientation on the sides of the ship (they seem to get blocked by ship geometry).
I'm off to test them again.
I am building this soon!!! Could you find it in your heart to do a midgame cargo hauler using the dumas as a base? Pleeeeeeeease 👊😎
Any particular reason for starting with a Dumas?
"100K cargo while keeping 100 mobility..." I literally yelled, "WHAT?!?" and then, "... just kidding." 🤣🤣🤣 Great build! I used a build by another creator that looks like a container ship in space with a crane on it. I kept like 30 mobility, but watching your battles maybe I don't even care! LOL BTW, on the turrets, they tend to be able to track ~80 degrees either side... so I just position most facing forward or backward, with *maybe* one facing either side. I saw a few times where your 6 side turrets, the majority, weren't firing because of lack of range of movement. Not that you ever got close to dying though. Food for thought. I do 4-6 weapons forward, 3-4 backwards, and maybe 2 sideways. I've seen others do MOST facing backwards, with the idea of just lumbering away from the fight and still killing what's behind you. 😂
Gotcha! Hahaha and thanks for that info! I don’t prefer turrets but on something like this there’s really no choice, so I’ll keep that in mind for future heavy builds. My assumption was that their range of motion would be similar to the turrets in Fallout 4, so I placed them according to my experience with those.
@@WizeOldWizardagreed on turrets, but even on my nimble fighter builds I throw 3 auto turrets facing backwards for those times you are surrounded. 😂
@@timfederwitz totally get it, I do like that coverage too. If it didn’t feel like I was losing so much damage potential up front I would absolutely use them more often for maneuverable ships. Those 250mev turrets are bad ass.
Thank you for this great cargo ship, is there a ratio/formula to calculate how many landers you need? OK found it 200:1, so that means 1 trust for each 200 mass, right?
You are correct, 1 lander thrust can lift 200 mass.
Thanks for watching!
Oh judt thinking that. Turning my frontoer into cargo ship. I got some cargo mission but already got 2900 cargo full..
I have a Frontier overhaul coming up, but it’s for level 14 for the early game.
Omg i might switch my demois 3x2 mess hall for 2x2 nova living. I was just hoping to max out number of people on the ship allowed but im limited to 4 no matter seems like
Do you mean max crew or max passengers? Living quarters and all-in-one berths add passenger slots. Crew limit is based on how many can fit in your cockpit+battle station, but also dependent upon how many weapons you have equipped.
@WizeOldWizard my ship says crew size 7 (has 30.2 ares cockpit and demois battle station 2x2) I have mess mall 3x2.
But still only can put 4 crew members assigned on the ship
@@divingfalconfpv4602 Ship Command skill lets you assign more crew members.
@@WizeOldWizard oh thought that was for having more crew on missions. Be awhile before I can get to that skill haha
The only problem is jump distance as I have tasine extraction on Huygens VII-a and that's out of reach even with my perks pushing this build to 22ly. So now I'm offloading 50k worth of resources so I can switch to my 40k ship and go get a load of tasine.
As long as you have a landing pad there, make the jump in any of your ships. When you get there, go to the shipbuilder screen and make Bristleback your home ship so you can fill up the cargo, then swap back to your lighter ship to make the departing jump.
You basically never have to actually fly it since whatever you put in it will still be accessible no matter which ship you’re using to travel with. You just won’t be able to loot anything in space until you empty all that weight.
@WizeOldWizard yea, I didn't build a landing pad but I'm sure could have built one. Great idea, thanks.
Heh, this ship should be named The Chungus lol. 😆
Hahaha that would be a fitting name, ‘Big Chungus’. Love it.
Thanks for watching!
Correction… 1001 subscribers!
Not sure what I’m doing right but I’m just going to keep having fun with it!
I gotta say, 0% mobility is not that bad.
I was expecting it to be dreadful, but it's alright.
Yeah it can still make a turn, honestly the worst part is the amount of time it takes to accelerate and decelerate. That is… Abysmal lol, even with all six engines.
The Slab is significantly worse, but that’s why I didn’t even bother equipping anything that you need to make it through a fight. It’s a glorified cargo hold and that’s it hahaha.
Wow I had no idea I lost out on ship parts by killing alot of people in that mission. Damn.
No worries, next playthrough.
pfft i dont even have the time to finish one playthru. ill hopefully finish the core story but i highly doubt ill ever do a NG+ here, didnt even have the time to beat Zelda b4 this game came out.@@WizeOldWizard
Interesting build, where exactly in game can you sell 100,000 of anything in a single transaction? 😂
Hey man, thanks for the view and comment! Really helps support my channel, regardless of your opinion of Starfield. Nobody that plays enjoys the absurd vendor limit, but instead of bitching about it and refusing to play because of insignificant shortcomings like that, we enjoy the many great parts of the game that are already there. This ship is one way to ease the vendor credit limitation, as it allows you to carry mass quantities of goods and resources without being excessively overencumbered. I also just got done with a build that has double the capacity of this one, and can haul 1 million+ credits worth of Vytinium. Go check out the Slab and make more jokes!
Not gonna lie, it was a lot easier to follow along when you deleted everything and started from there.
Nevertheless, great video.
Second build, hadn’t yet figured that out.
@@WizeOldWizard ahhhh...that explains it.
How did the Starborn ship pop up at 13:13? It popped up as a Ship part in your menu? Just curious when I saw it? But on that note Great Build plan on building this Beast for myself thanks for the Video
It’s the M-Class Module Unlock mod that I wanted to try, but have since uninstalled and will revisit in the future. It included the Starborn ships. I think it’s lame that there’s literally nothing you can change on them, so I never flew one and still haven’t started NG+. If/when I build a modded ship I’ll label it very clearly.
@@WizeOldWizard That’s cool figured it was probably a mod, was just curious! The build Video was Awesome, Love your content thanks again
@@Badclamz83 thank you for watching and engaging! I would love to know what you think of the ship if you build it.
@@WizeOldWizard I’ll definitely let you know once I get it build in the next day or two.
Will we get a stareagle rework ? would love to see how you change it up!
100%! That will be coming up very soon.
@@WizeOldWizard YASSS!!!! I used a lot of your build ideas on my Kepler R redesign. It looks a bit like a max size Sysdef Chimera with 4 big SAL engines. Not a bad beast. Kept some missle launchers on it for shits and giggles as they looked nice where they were placed lol. Only downside to loving building ships is the cost! Gotta figure out a good way to crank out more revenue other than selling every armor and weapon I come across in the field of battle
@@petersmith5413 credit/xp farm guide is next actually!
I will follow this to a T! i look forward to the video man. Keep up the amazing work@@WizeOldWizard
For some odd reason I have the 6830s but no pinch reactor or Apollo grab drive???
The 6830’s are unlocked from a mission, reactor and grav drive are level-locked. High 50’s for drive and 60 for the Pinch 8z.
Well, you broke Todd Howards world record cargo space so far... I am currently in NG+1 vanilla (no mods)and the Todd Howard MKIII is my best ship thus far at only 37k cargo... Todd was able to hit 64k as i believe he has more skills and better engines?
It’s got 66,960 equipped cargo, and Payloads skill rank 4 boosts that by 50%, totaling just over 100k. As far as engine choice, that’s really up to preference. I chose these because they have the most likelihood of the ship being able to turn at all haha.
qustion: if ur gonna roll with 0 mobility...... does it even matter what engines u put on? (in order to just save some $) ?
Yes, it does, although the ability of the ship to turn may remain the same, you’ll suffer greatly in the acceleration and braking department. Unless you intend to never actually fly it, in which case yeah you could absolutely just use one engine.
Interesting, but is there any practical use for so much cargo space? I don't remember seeing a mission requiring me to carry more than 4000 units.
It’s got nothing to do with missions. The ship is meant to carry mass quantities of resources for either building outposts or selling materials.
@@WizeOldWizard I didn't think of that. I got used to carrying all those tons of adaptive structures and isocentered magnets in the personal inventory as it bypasses the ship cargo limit (nice design from Bethesda).
I already built an adaptation of your Basilisk and when I go to new game + I might try to create a Bristleback as well. I hate ladders, but for a freighter filled with turrets, I think I'll move the cockpit on the top and the back of the ship. That way I will be able to admire my turrets as they are melting away pirates in my 0 mobility space truck.
Hope to see more builds from you.
@@AnubisMRM more builds are on the way for sure!
What's the point with only a 17LY jump range?
It is what it is, the ship is heavy as sin, and it’s got the highest jump thrust drive available. I will say that my Astrodynamics skill is not maxed out, so that can be improved. Sarah Morgan helps a lot with that too.
Is it possible to do this with a front facing landing bay
Yes, it has a front-facing bay already.
Thanks for watching!
@@WizeOldWizardyeah I saw that but for some reason I’m still getting the bay to cockpit error and also an unattached mod error. Can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. Amazing build btw, all your builds are the best I’ve seen on RUclips hands down
@seanajtaylor shit sorry to hear that… Since I’m unable to see the problem for myself, it might be worth deleting all the parts and starting over. If you’re following along you shouldn’t have any problems. I’m not running any ship building mods whatsoever so there’s nothing I can get away with that you can’t.
Now the unattached module error can be found by using the ‘select all’ function (LB on xbox) any part that is unattached will not be selected, so just move the camera around until you find the unattached parts.
Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
Since it's at 0 mobility.. would it handle exactly the same if you put the cheapest class A engines on it?
In terms of turning ability yes, but when it comes to acceleration and braking, no. You could get up to a higher top cruising speed, but it would take much longer and your boost speed would be abysmal.
@@WizeOldWizard Alright, thank you :)
100K cargo.. xD They call him the planet harvester 🍃 and it's filled with potatoes ! 🤣
I may see what absolute maximum possible cargo capacity is just for fun. Gonna look like a uhaul truck hahaha
It can only go in a straight line and it takes 15 days to brake@@WizeOldWizard
Does SF have Cargo running missions or is the cargo mainly for moving your own resources?
There are cargo missions but you wouldn’t need anything like this capacity for that. The purpose of this ship is for hauling your own resources everywhere for outpost building or resource crafting. I’m building a guide for setting up a very profitable credit/xp farm.
@@WizeOldWizard ahh, ok. thx on both counts! Very nice ship design!
@@Whoadayson you’re very welcome, thanks for watching!
So I'm guessing with a ship this big in regards of cargo you can't have a 29-30 ly jump range. I'm level 53 and don't have these engines used here unlocked yet (haven't done that mission that unlocks them).
No, it has a base LY range of 17. But with Astrodynamics skill and Sarah Morgan on crew you can get almost everywhere you need to go. And for those cases where you need even more, just make the jump with a different ship and switch to this to load it up once you arrive.
Mobility 0 with the best engines in the game 🤣 Also last time I tried turrets pointing in different directions, they would never fire at all. I don't know if they have address this in a later patch, but I never bother trying again after the first failed attempt.
Note: You should unassign your crew before making mods to the ship, or make sure the ship is not your home ship first. There is a bug where your home ship becomes invisible if you modify it with assigned crew. Doesn't always happen, but I recently got it and a lot of others have as well. If it happens you need to go back to a save before you modified the ship to recover.
Never experienced that bug myself and I nearly always modify my home ship without unassigning crew. The one I’ve heard of has to do with modifying ships that you’ve boarded.
As for the turret arrangement, no issues, as you can see from the repeated successful combat encounters in the video.
Thanks for watching! And yeah big ol fat ZERO even with the 6830’s lol
@@WizeOldWizard I went into the final battle of the Crimson Fleet mission line with 2 turrets facing forward and 2 facing backwards. They would not fire a single shot in any direction. But that was about 2-3 patches ago. The ship I modified was a boarded one, and I had also renamed it. However I have heard of somebody having this problem with the Frontier, and didn't have an alternative ship to use as it was early game for them. So nobody yet knows the exact situation that causes this issue.
@@wjohnsaunders oh man, that must have been a pain! Hopefully that is something that they patched. The turrets have been working fine on this ship since I built it, that’s all I can say.
So the 17Ly jump range seems to be a slight problem being that I have outpost EVERYWHERE
Increase your Astrodynamics skill, and get Sarah on as crew. If you still can’t get where you need to go, hop in another ship with higher LY range and then switch back when you get there to load it up. Or, remove enough cargo capacity to get the range you need. But I already know you got the Basilisk in your fleet, just make your long jumps with that.
Shit you are right I forgot I have landing pads at all of them. Duh 🙄
I deleted it.
@@otissanders2624 oh dang I was joking but it might be for the best anyway.
Real question: whats the point of so much cargo when it takes you FOREVER to offload it to vendors? Since they are credit-limited, its a pain in the ass to have more than a few thou cargo at a time. Even THAT much is a PITA.
Is there a secret that I don't know that doesn't involve sitting in a chair for 48 hours to let the vendors "reset"?
This much cargo just allows you to not deal with being so overencumbered so you can get to vendors more quickly. Everyone knows that you CAN walk around with tons of weight, but have you tried carrying 100k on you? It’s also useful for hauling tons of materials for outpost building, for those who enjoy that.
No parts list? Can you please attach one ? you go through parts too fast to follow. A list would be very helpful
No, I have not done that. My reasoning is that, even if I provide a complete list, viewers would still have to watch the entire build process to see where the parts go. If you miss a part or where to attach, the pause button is your friend…
I also am a one-man-show, and I do work full time, so making a full parts list would take my time away from capturing footage and editing the content.
All that said, I am still considering ways in which I can implement a parts list into the videos, hopefully without it taking too much time. I intend to improve the quality of the content and that is part of it.
Thanks for watching!
When's the next build coming out?
I could push the Pit Viper out, but I’m going to wait to release another end-game build until after I show newer players how to build something at level 14. I hate the Frontier, so the next build will be how to make it an actual good ship. So either this Sunday or next weekend at the latest.
@@WizeOldWizard Sounds good brother, keep doing what you're doing, love your ship builds!
can you build ship no ladders and has everything inside
By ‘everything inside’ do you mean just the things that you need in terms of gameplay or do you mean every single type of hab module?
@@WizeOldWizard I meant no ladders but have enough cargo space plus every module like workshop. Control room.prison cell
Captain quarters etc
But no ladders.
Is it possible to build such ship
@@caretaker826karim3 I tried accomplishing this when I started the Basilisk, although I wasn’t considering it as a no-ladder build. Maybe this idea can be a future guide. Thanks!
thats what am aiming for no ladders
Personally I don’t mind ladders as long as they aren’t all in different places. I totally understand the hate though. We need more options and more layout control!
i bought this class b ship i could not find cockpit to many twist and turns all ladders look same. had to put mission icon on so i can follow arrows to my pilot seat lol
Thiccc boi
Damn I should’ve named it ‘The Thicccness’
No Ladder Gang 😅
All vanilla? Why it have a starborn guardian in ship builder?
The build is vanilla. I did have the M-Class Modules Unlock mod installed when I captured the footage. That mod also unlocks the Starborn ships in the builder, so that’s why you saw those. I dislike those ships and the snapping points on the m-class parts were hit or miss, so I never used any of it anyway.
I'm just wondering... why a tradeship when there's no trading ?.
Complete honesty here, but I never really even used this ship for its intended purpose.
But not for the reason you think, and definitely not for the reason you suggested.
I built this right after I built the Basilisk, and shortly after that I started on my current playthrough where I’ve built every other ship on my channel.
The Slab is maximum cargo, and I have used it to trade vytinium on countless occasions to make tens of millions of credits for ship building.
But now you have me curious because of your comment… What are you smoking? I want some!
@@WizeOldWizard I used to build a lot of varrying shipdesigns, . But lately i'm too aggravated over the limitation in the shipbuilder.
It does have its limits, if you’re on PC why not download a couple of mods? I’m probably going to do that when I move into NG+ for the first time. Two more slots in my current fleet are open so I’m going to build two more all vanilla.
Didn’t realize how much I overrated mobility
Don’t discount it either though. Pilot guns are much more effective.
@@WizeOldWizard yes, but I’m always trying to keep it at 100, if I can’t get it there and no engine upgrades get it to do so, then it’s not happening lol
Haha I get it, I like having maximum stats as well, but you definitely can get away with 80 mobility and still have plenty of turn speed.
Those poor spacers, they had no clue what they were getting themselves into.
“Easy money! Wait…” Already toast haha
@@WizeOldWizard yeah they don't even get to finish their sentences lol... Feels like me in the last wave of the vanguard simulator:/
@@pdraggy oh man that simulator on very hard actually is very hard.