So glad Bish's RV let you continue being honest. Much respect to you and the company you represent. Every dealer should show this video before every RV sale.
Some people may not realize how much of a selling feature this is. Your videos with Bish's allowing such transparency is contributing to a huge trust factor.👍
@@alanploetz7100 I'm feeling that I'll be able to trust Bish's RV with my RV purchase in the very,very near future. Josh is upfront and honest,..I can tell. After nearly twenty five years of tent camping,I'm wanting to make the transition up to a tent camper,...or pop up! My 60 year old bones can't take the hard ground anymore! LOL!
Talk to your SO before buying! A guy I know retired and promptly bought a tow vehicle and an RV. His wife was not pleased. She had no intention of spending their golden years cooking and cleaning; she wanted restaurants, housekeeping, and room service. The trailer got sold, they bought two motorcycles, and they're still happily married touring the country staying in hotels.
And don't let these big box stores split up you and your partner to try to individually put the press on you. I cannot believe how predatory some places are
I retired from the cruise only business, and in a lot of married cruisers was one waited a lifetime to travel on a ship, and the other had no desire to step aboard a ship and be surrounded by water with an island NOT within swimming distance... There is usually more to a buying experience that a sales person covers. THANK YOU Josh for sharing.
When I was selling RVs I had a customer do this and it was quite a strain on his marriage. Best idea is to not surprise your SO with a purchase of this scale.
I was walking the dog and I passed a campsite with a beautiful airstream and brand new tow vehicle. There was a kind lady, clearly proud as peaches, on the awning side of the rig. I complimented their setup and she told me how much she and her husband LOVE camping!!!! Over in "civilization corner " her husband, rubber gloves and all, looked up at me silently shaking his head...... It ain't for everyone.
I'm fairly new to RV camping but I have found it to be super hard to get a spot at some campgrounds. What makes it easier is my trailer is very small so I can grab the spots the big guys can't fit in. When I was a kid everyone I knew had smaller trailers and they slept whole families in them and we're just fine. Now everyone has these huge monster trailers and I have to ask, why? My trailer is a tent on wheels. We only use it to sleep in. We do everything outside, even cooking and washing dishes. So that's my advice. Really think about just how big your trailer has to be. It's not a trophy. Buy it to use it, not as bragging rights. With these big trailers you also need a huge rig that is not good to use for anything else.
It is hilarious to me watching these RVs come and go out of the campground. There are about 40 RVs here permanently (we live in them all year round). Those are usually small in comparison to a lot of the ones that come in the summer and are parked for weekend use (folks who pay for a spot all summer to use on the weekends). It is quite obvious which ones are status symbols (like the toy hauler across the road from our tiny Springdale). I agree with you completely. We Dodge Grand Caravan camped for years in Alaska. I see no reason to have a giant RV if you're only going to use it on your days off. But it's like the hotel industry now going to a "home away from home" approach. People want to get away, but not really.
As always your the best. My wife and I was planning on full time RV’ing. I was researching, watching videos of full timers & your channel. But unfortunately life happened before we got to start, now I’m a widower. Before she passed away I told her it’s a good thing that we hadn’t bought a TT she agreed. Josh continue doing what you’re doing. People appreciate honesty unfortunately nowadays honestly it a rarity.
In 1978 we moved from Ill. to S.D. with a self converted Dodge Maxi Van and a tent. Family of 5. WE camped in the Black Hills a few years till we bought a used 21' TT. Sold it to buy a house. Sold house to move to Indiana in '87. We used Dad and Mom's class C and class A one time each till 2000 when we bought a used TT again Kids all gone by now. 2005 we bought a new 32' Montana 5th. Lost count of the number of miles we put on it the next 12 years going west to visit family and other short trips. Traded that one for out current 36' 5th in 2017. We have about 25K miles on it now and we are in out 4th year of snow birding in warmer areas. We are now in our mid and late 70's with no intentions of selling or trading it now. But age will catch up with us some year. Thanks for your video.
As an experienced camper/RVer, you hit just about everything!! It is a commitment that you have to be ready for…don’t expect to make any money on the deal.
There is also the cost to license and insure these RV's, and the insurance doesn't necessarily cover everything. I so enjoy your video's, and really appreciate that you are so up front about everything.
The motorcycle connection with buying accessories is 100% spot on. It is never the item itself... those darn accessories are a good way to make your wallet need grief counseling!
Josh you and Bish's RV are the best. You dare go somewhere others would not dare, this is the type of things that make someone OUTSTANDING in their field. GO RV NERD'S!
I’m now on my 5th trailer. The point you made about “hey what do you say we go camping this weekend?” Is pretty much a thing of the past. Now pretty much anywhere you have to have reservations. It kills the whole spontaneity of the adventure.
I hear this a lot. Frequent travelers often tell me though they do not have trouble finding a place for the night & often advise many places have open sites when they get there
@@JoshtheRVNerd Wife and I purchased a new 14" RV 13 years ago. Camper looks almost as good as the day we purchased it. Takes lots of care and maintenance. Just like owning a boat. Back when we first purchased it we could literally book a campsite 2 or less days before arrival. Totally changed now and it makes it way difficult to up and go. We have 2 very unpredictable working schedules. Good video.
The wife and I are long-time campers with tents. We bought our Class C, shortly after I retired almost three years ago. We bought ours used, mainly due to the prohibitive cost of a new Class C. The comfort we now experience camping, offsets the costs of RV storage, maintenance, propane and gasoline to travel to our destinations. Tenting and being a senior are kinda' incompatible in our experience.
@JoshtheRVNerd , you have that correct. The cologne of wood smoke does wonders for folks who want to "get-out" of the city frequently during the spring/summer and fall.
This sort of content is why i enjoy your channel so much. Put to the side the consistent, solid, relatively unbiased information you provide. You urge people to realistically purchase what they can handle not what they can afford.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I don't always comment, but I do watch every video you produce. I know what I want, but that doesn't preclude me from watching alternatives.
Thanks again Josh. I was having a good day until this video 😂. But seriously, those who have spent enough time even tent camping know people are people, and they are like a box of mixed chocolates!!!
Hi Josh I think they should have a class for the people to teach them about rv ing before they take delivery it is a must to do to make them understand and have a question and answer just a thought take care happy camping
Thanks for all you do to promote responsible RVing Josh. My husband and I have been subscribers since before the pandemic. Loved how you weathered those tough times when we were all locked down (gotta admit those videos hold a special place in our hearts). Keep being you, we're here for it 😊
I love your videos. Im going to sell my sticks and bricks and buy a 5th wheel camper. Im going to be mainly stationary , but may go on a vacation from time to time. I have lived in one before with someone, but this time, im going it alone. I have watched hundreds of videos about maintenance and repairs, and i like challenges, so i think im ready for this one.
@@JoshtheRVNerdTrue. When I first learned that after following Travels Without Charlie for awhile, I thought it was rather strange. I wonder why that's the case?
You are correct about having a third party. I ended up buying a brand new RV and the roof had a leak. It caused damage. Thank goodness it was still under the warranty. They had to remove the whole roof keeping our RV for a whole month.
My thoughts exactly @donalexander4083 Bish's don't have many locations in the south where I live but I'm only about a hour 15 min from Longview location and when I'm ready to upgrade out of my 09 and buy new I'll be checking then them first. All because of Josh and his videos. He'll there's 3 camper places in the down I live in and I'm still going to Longview first. I hope by that time they have some of there Wayfinders in stock there insted of just having the option to have it shipped there
Great video. Here's an incomplete list of what I have bought so far just for the trailer alone: Anti-sway hitch, new power lift, lift cover, full TPMS system, LP tank cover, new door locks, wheel chocks, wheel covers, pest control items, new ceiling vent fan, spare tire cover, bumper hitch mount, wheel levelers, electronic level system x2, water hoses x3, water pressure regulator, water filters x2, water Y adapter, leveler blocks, various tools and lots of them, fuses, lubricants and conditioner fluids, full camera system, parking related extras, outdoor chairs, outdoor table, outdoor extras and fire pit, electrical extension cables x3, electrical power adapters, power filers 30&50 amp, sewer hoses x4, sewer adapters and fittings, electrical generator, kitchen gear and cooking gear, bedding, new shower head, special toilet paper, various inside cleaning agents, extra clothing to leave in the RV. And the list goes on... I still love it though!
Thanks Bish's. Here is my 2 cents. Let your spouse decide what RV to buy if your spouse has concerns. I wanted to do winter camping towing a travel trailer. My wife did not like that concept but she found truck campers and we agreed on one we could live with. We ordered it during Covid with a big truck, sold the house and have lived in our RV for the last 2 years. Best retirement decision we ever made. 😃
RV living has definitely had some great advantages for us. It's certainly cheaper than owning a house and it's great that you can pick up and move if you don't like the location. I wish more states would allow full time RV living. With my husband looking for a new job, that has been a huge issue. Too many states don't support tiny house living (which they group RV living into). That means that we have to figure out what to do with the RV if we take the job and we're back to a house. 😒
WOW you hit the nail on the head !!! Great video , I hope all new RVers watch this video because you just spit out the truth !! Your section " neighbors " was outstanding because we just where camping 2 weeks ago and found the camper from hell next door . Playing there music till 1am with there outside speakers . Then at 7am forgetting they still had there outside speakers on full blast they turned on the news so everyone in the camp ground could hear it . Both the wife and I said lets leave 2 days early because the state camp ground wouldn't do anything about the noise .
We live in an RV park in Ohio and have two sets of those neighbors. When we moved to our current spot, it was the quiet area of the park. After two moved for various reasons, they were replaced by the partier's that were requested to leave the area they had been parked in. Now we deal with loud music till 4 am every weekend and sometimes during the week. They keep complaining about us assuming we are the ones complaining about them. Luckily, my husband got a job in Vermont and we're leaving before the camping season starts again. I can't do another summer with these people.
I love camping and tent camped for years. But having a small tow behind with shower, hard walls, and creature comforts, I knew I would need to buy one. Don't use it much, but my budget affords it, and now I can go anywhere with all the amenities I could ever need.
Thanks, Nerd. That is very good advice. We've been dreaming of owning an RV for many years, but never got to it for various reasons. As we think more about it, it has become apparent that we are not going to get the most out of it. The biggest thing for us is storage as we live in a city. Besides the cost, we have to travel to the storage facility to take of things, including clearing snow off the roof after a big snow fall. On top of that, we'd have to own a gas-guzzling truck that we'd have no good use for when not towing. In fact, I foresee I'd avoid driving it at much as possible. With platforms like RVezy, there really is not a good use case to own an RV. Thanks again.
Great video - even as a reminder for those of us who have been camping a long time. We got our first RV, a class C, in 2002. When the kids were young we use to leave it parked in the driveway fully stocked from Memoria Day to Labor Day. In additional to weekend and vacation camping use used it on trips to the lake or beach in NH. You had your fridge, a place to take a nap in the AC with an infant and a shower to get the sand/salt off before going out to dinner. The saying “Better by Buy Experiences than Things.” Well an RV “Thing” allows you to have all kinds of experiences you might not otherwise be able to afford due to time or money. Finally you mention potential rowdy neighbors. Have you flown lately, the behavior in airports and on planes can be worse than the worst late night drunk camper
As someone who flies now and again for work.. not a fan of airports. It's a miserable experience and I thank netflix and my airpods for helping distract me thru it lol
Really good info to share. Sometimes people fall in love with “idea” of rving, but don’t slow down enough to really consider what they’re signing up for! Great integrity for someone in rv sales to actually shine the light on the reality of owning an rv.
Good point. I suspect it's probably not unlike people falling in love with the idea of marriage without thinking that thru!! Knowledge, foresight, resource allocation, planning, etc. are all important; but as in marriage, the keys to long-term success are participant commitment & being realistic & flexible.
Been living tiny for several years and full-time digital nomad for 2 years now... VERY GOOD video. Accurate on the challenges, which is surprising from a dealership. ❤
As a 1st timer, this is a really knowledgeable video. I really didn't consider many of the factors you mention. Wow!!! I am thinking about a travel trailer. Logistics, upkeep, fuel (???), storage, getting into camp grounds-fees, neighbor issues and the INTERNET issue was an eye opener. I was considering working remotely using my Travel Trailer as I traveled. This may be an issue now. I will keep watching you for your honest approach. Thank you. I better rent 1st perhaps.
Propane costs, firewood costs, preventative maintenance, repairs, supplies, chairs, tools, cleaning supplies, protection products, group events, weather damages, hosting others, and some times over doing partying. It can also strain friendships and relationships.
@@TheDesertdawg1 very, very true. Unfortunately, most people don't think about the fact that they are having to pay for it twice when buying a "home away from home" like an RV.
The generations of people that will soon enter into the RV world that buy fast food to be delivered to their front door step, will most likely not be inconvenienced with the poor quality of dealing with RV maintenance. It’s fine with me because it will become easier to find a campsite lol. I truly enjoy the rv experience but I have much patience. Tell that to those that expect things right away, right now. I hope I’m wrong because many wonderful people are employed to provide us these rvs, that can create wonderful memories. Thankful for people and businesses like yours.
I am 75, I have been camping my whole life, I discovered around 55. It was hard to get up off the ground after tent camping, so we got into an RV and we loved it ever cents.
One of my sons worked for an RV manufacturer just out of high school. Yes, they were built fast, and mistakes were made. They had a saying; ***k it, shim it, send down the line!" He quit not wanting to be apart of that. He told me that with some of that, people could get hurt. Now, I know there have been a lot of advancements in the way they are built now. But they are still built by people. Love how Bish's keeps you posting honest information.
@@janicethoni8421 The first time I put them up, they were taken down. Tried to put them up again this past fall and I was told no and I had to take them down.
We bought a 2023 unit last year that has outside speakers. After hearing and witnessing the horror stories about them iwas skeptical about useing them, but I found out that with ours at least they only really project straight forward. So people behind you and to the side of you cant hear them unless you play really really loud. We also had to have our unit go back to the factory for some repairs. We brought it to the dealership end of August and didn't get it back until January. Fortunately for us camping season was done but something to think about.
Nailed on the Amazon boxes. We dry camp and quad side by side ride. We bought a travel trailer that is perfect for this other hobby riding in the side by side. It will be nice to come back shower, eat sleep if it rains we can watch TV.
Just me personally. Camped on & of 50 years, now retired purchased a new TT. Rough figures comparing $100 per night hotel stay, 3 night camping trips times 52 weeks (not practical) recoup cost of Rv is 70 years. This is not factoring in cost to actually travel to camp. I don’t drink or gamble so I am ok with spending my money to camp 30-40 nights per year. Oh & I did not pay for a seat at the Super Bowl. Thanks for the reality check for all of us
Of all your great informational videos this is my favorite! It's made my wife and I rethink our plans to upgrade to a larger 5th wheel when we retire. We still want a new one as ours is well used, but not sure we need the new monster size 5th wheel we were planning on for our planned 2 to 4 months of travel per year. Really great thought provoking information!
This was very honest and transparent content. I hope people listen. Love that you suggest all first-time RV buyers get a third-party inspection before purchasing. Thanks Josh. Like your hat... maybe you could get a hat that says "The RV Nerd" and sell one to the rest of us, "just another RV nerd".
Thank You, “Vary Much” 2 things I’m happy to know first there’s you that I learn from and second there’s a BUSH’s RV dealership in Tx. Guess where I’m going when I buy my FIRST TRAVEL TRAILER “ThankYou” Sir.
You want to see people's tempers go off easy get them to back up a trailer into a tight spot or as them if they know there clearance to go in a tunnel or under a bridge
I've only been RVing for about 3.5 years, and I've loved every minute it because I never had an unrealistic expectation. i didn't buy a truck to save on gas, I don't get all the amazon boxes to be fiscally responsible... heck I've gotten some whatchamacallits and doohickeys I later regretted. It's all about the experience, the trial and error to live, if only for a weekend, the life you want. You definitely have to go in knowing what you're getting and take the good with the bad. Well done on laying it out, all card on the table.
I hope tons of people watch this video and take the information into consideration. Due to the ignorance of many RV owners (especially first time casual owners) I was actually more afraid to buy used due to the potential for additional problems caused by negligence, the thought of dealing with those problems coupled with any unresolved manufacturer issues caused us to buy new. Any preventative maintenance issues are on us and we'll just have to fight the manufacturer for any caused by them, lol.
100% spot on Josh. In our first 3 seasons, we've spent over $7k in accessories... Maintenance is a must... proper tow vehicle is a must... the cost of things while at the park... something always comes up... but it's my happy place 😊 Marc and Trish from KYD said it best: "Start where you are" camp on your budget. Rent First, try it out!!!
We are retired and yes, it is physically demanding. We don’t mind that. It is great for thinking on your feet. Our big issue is the incidents of frightening weather. We have been in scary stuff that was not predicted.
Small campers are becoming more popular but people need to think realistically about the size of their camper before buying. We liked our small camper until we encountered some really bad weather on a couple of trips. When we had to spend a significant amount of time inside, our opinion changed. And since we used our own bathroom/shower facilities, two people trying to get ready at the same time became something we had to work out a strategy for. And setting up/tearing down a campsite is a good amount of work and can make long trips a lot of work, too. Josh hit the nail on the head when he said there’s a degree of physical ability necessary.
Good point on the tow vehicle aspect. Our 3800 lb GVW trailer (3100 dry) is lightly loaded, but towing it with our Honda Pilot (4500 lb rating) wasn't a walk in the park. Although it could do it, you could tell wind resistance also factored into it. It was working hard and spent a lot of time in third gear on the highways. If we got a good wind gust from the side, it was quite noticeable. Very different from towing our old 2000 pound popup. Now we have a pickup truck, and it's a much better experience. Still gets a measly 12 MPG when we're towing it, but it does a better job of it.
Around here, you have to book it 5 months in advance (the provincial parks literally sell out during peak season) beyond that, you might get a last minute booking... but don't show up hoping to find a spot. The edges of the season are a different matter. My last trip of the season ended up being a frosty late October weekend with a full moon... AND AN ENTIRE SECTION OF THE PARK TO OURSELVES! Literally couldn't see a soul... not even their lights. It's been the most peaceful trip I can remember.
Thank you for all the info you provide. I am trying to get my wife to pay attention to all this. I want her to know it won't all be roses. I have been researching for almost 2 years now. I will a least know what is going on, but no hands on. I can't believe people buy stuff and don't find out anything about it.
I've been doing this for a year now and I find my biggest irritation is commercial campgrounds. Trying to decipher each campground's policy and rules is a world class headache. Especially pet rules. I just saw a park in FL that charged a $100 pet fee and no pet over 20 pounds. Some claim to be pet friendly then when you get there or reading the fine print on their website (which frequently doesn't exist) you find they won't take you because you have either too many or too large or wrong breed etc. Then after they turn you away they won't refund anything. Some have rules as to what type of RV or how old you can be or who knows what else. I have definitely learned that using parks, be they federal, state, or local is the way to go if you possibly can. Corps of Engineers parks seem especially nice and are very reasonable priced. BTW, I have found Josh's videos to be quite accurate when compared to my actual experiences. While I am happy with my selling dealer, I think if I were to trade I would definitely try to find a Bish's dealer.
Transparency is only one of the many reasons that my wife and I enjoy your channel. Your weird sense of humor and your dad jokes play a big role in our reasons for watching. The fact that you supply good information, in that dulcet voice, is of course the main reason people follow you and your channel. Thanks
Thank you, Josh, for your openness and honesty. Thank you to Bish's for being a confident enough company to allow Josh to do this his way. Much respect to both you, Josh, and Bish's......and when i've found the one i truly want and am ready to make the purchase, i will be heading to Bish's.😊
One thing that I didn’t hear you mention is zoning. I’m in Southern California and there’s a LOT of communities that have ordinances prohibiting the parking of rv, motor homes or trailers no matter how much parking space you have on your property. When I lived in Long Beach I had a parking lot with spaces for 5-6 cars. I was fined for having 3 after a new ordinance that allowed only 2.
Your list is SPOT ON. If you’re seeing this video and any of these things concern you, I’d seriously pump the brakes. It definitely is a commitment. Been watching you for years Josh. Your honesty has always been very refreshing. So glad Bish’s lets you do what you could do for your dad. We will definitely consider Bish’s for our next camper purchase.
Love our camper, spend a lot of time in it and on it. If either spouse goes into this hobby with the thought of.. “ let’s get a camper and we will save money on hotels and travel”, they are not ready to buy! 😊
Yep. I can stay in a lot of hotels for the cost of an RV and tow vehicle. Also with the increased prices for campsites they aren't all that much cheaper than a hotel room.
I bought my travel trailer to stay over the road working road construction. so i'm actually saving half of the money from motels, even with campground cost and payment.
while dealers have no real control over how campgrounds operate, it was good to hear your comments about people who reserve multiple camping spots only to cancel at the last minute. I'd love to see a change in the campground industry which would include pre-paid non-refundable deposit. Doesn't have to be much but that would help eliminate the bots and the resellers. It's true that one can usually find a spot they want the day of but that includes a risk that they can't find one.
More campground owners are starting to implement cancellation policies to help curb behavior but many still have nothing stopping people from booking three weeks, watching the weather report, then going for one weekend
After RVing for over 35 yrs and 4 different RV’s. What you said in this video is GOSPEL truth! Do to age and body infirmity, the wife and I gave up RVing. I still like to see what’s new in the industry. Knowing our camping now is in a motel. Keep making these videos to help the newcomers understand the RV lifestyle.
I have looked at RVs for several years, mostly from Josh😅. I like some RVs, but after seeing some RV campgrounds at state parks I visit, I’m not sure I want to stay in those areas. Lots of noise, bright lights, drinking, generators (where there are no hookups). With a nice tent, I have a bit more flexibility.
Rvs and swimming pools have alot in common i noticed, when ppl first get them, ppl use them a lot but as time goes by, they get used less and less and they both are a lot of work. Another useful video nerd!
Thanks for keeping it real. As for me, we have learned the hard way. Started with a really nice pop-up, and a truck that was just too small for the weight. Traded the truck for a larger truck that could handle the popup, then, had structural problems with the popup, so went to a really nice 2020 Jayco White Hawk 32RL. The dealer stated your truck can pull it fine. Well... Yes it can, but, right at it's max tow weight. The real problem is not the tow weight, but, the length and height of the trailer. Pulling 36.8ft, at 9000lbs with a 1/2 ton is not a comfortable experience. I think that you have to be realistic about what YOU think you need, as well as what really you are comfortable with. As for us, we are looking to upgrade our truck again, and this time, will over-buy as far as what it can tow. They just don't ever tell you this. Manufacturers state "10, 11, 12, 14, or 15K on that 1/2 ton truck...Ours is rated at 9240lbs max. That is great that it can pull it, but, reality is that you need a heavier truck to allow for the length and width you are actually pulling. Once you know, what you need, the lifestyle is fun. But, approaching with your own knowledge is key to a great experience.
I don't know everything about towing but I have learned I know more than most folks and man.. there is so much BAD towing advisory out there from completely unqualified people
Yup! I so appreciate your honesty in this industry! ❤ We found that we had to buy a generator because our favorite camp ground does not have electric hook-ups. We've also found alot of empty sites because people don't cancel. So please, cancel if you're not going to use it! Thank you to Bish's RV and to you, Josh! ❤
Hi Uncle Josh. Another thing to add. If you’re not going to leave the campsite as good as or better than you found it, ie. NOT leaving it trashed! Then camping is not for you. Before the pandemic campsites were good, since the pandemic A Lot of people are leaving them in not so great shape for the next camper, very aggravating!
I just came across your channel a few daya ago and have found it quite informative. I'm looking at purchaing a Travel Trailer next year after I've done some extensive research for what will fit me and visit a few places. I served in the military for over 28 years and drive large vehicles with large trailers and doing the setup work wouldn't be a problem. 😂 I'm only 52 and still in my prime.
This is the video I wish I saw before I got into the travel trailer life. Thankfully we ended up loving it more than we ever thought we would! The cost involved is rather staggering. Thanks to RUclips I’m a professional in repairing most things myself!
This is just the kind of video I expect from “Uncle” Josh. Giving you all the info and insight you need before buying or choosing the RV life. Can you think of another person who would talk to you out of buying and RV then this amazing guy? Outstanding job Josh👏🏻👍🏻
I don't yet own an RV. I wound up here to see walk-throughs of models that looked promising and now I'm stuck in a rabbit hole. Waffling between getting something modest my current vehicle can safely tow or bite the bullet and get the 3/4 ton necessary to pull a fifth wheel (you made me sweet on Cougars). One thought that scares the crap out of me is the size of trailers, esp fifth wheels. At 12+ feet high, that's higher than my roof (flat roof on the front), and 8 feet wide is a bit wider that a big truck. A lady in an RV group I'm in ran her TT up onto the concrete island at a gas station because she failed to take into account the extra room she needed at the pump. Then there's right-hand turns and backing it up. Lots of practical things to think about.
Hey Josh - My wife and I were mostly campers for our first 20 years, and I have to say that those were the best years of our family life! I think that family camping is underrated, and that most families would find it a BLESSING to go camping together, especially when the kids are young (say under 16). I have such fond memories about our family camps, that it amazes me that many prospective family campers would love for their own families. Just do it!!! We had a truck, camper, and boat, and that consumed the majority of our family vacations together. We had campfires every night, went boating and hiking during the day, and it was simply a wholesome place to be! Perhaps if the buying public were to learn more about this aspect of camping, they might want to consider it for their own families? But we are blessed to have had this in our lives, and hope to re-enter the RV vacation life once again now that we are retired! Thanks for all of your wonderful videos, and keep up the great work!!!
Josh, I can comfortably say that if I lived in your neck of the woods, I would certainly be visiting Bish's when I'm in the market to buy another RV. You're honesty speaks volumes, and Bish's standing behind it!
Not sure whereabout you call home but you can see all of our locations at www.bishs.com/locations If nothing else I'd love it if you took a minute to drop me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review
Storage. I live in the country so I don’t have an HOA or city ordinance telling me what I can and cannot do on my property so my camper is parked and connected to electric at my house. Many people are not allowed to park there camper at home so they have to pay a fee for storing their camper when it’s not in use
That's how I grew up - outside of the city limits. I enjoy being closer to town now (small town as it may be) but someone telling me what I can/cannot do on my property? Man.. just never sits right with me
Thanks Josh. We do want INTERNET access for our online projects, producing RUclips videos, and online computer programming as well as streaming TV programs even in remote areas. Starlink looks as though it will be our best solution. It is a bit expensive with $600 for the dish and router plus $150 per month for roaming in the USA. You can also buy global roaming. But you only pay for the months that you need to use it, with no contract. I will think about cancelling our home cable. The third generation systems have a flat "dish" which can be mounted successfully on the flat roof of an RV, and this does not need the motorized dish positioning system. Apparently you can put a plexiglass cover over it for additional protection. It has a 110 degree view of the sky with its phased array antennae, and doesn't really need to be aligned in any particular orientation. However, obstructions like trees can block the signal and even if it is boiling hot weather you cannot park in the shade if you want a roof mounted antenna to work. The alternative is to set up the antenna by hand some distance away from your RV. But there are stories of other RVs driving right over them. Some RUclips videos show methods of mounting them on a flag pole attached to the ladder or A-frame or elsewhere, but there is a daily overhead in labor to set it up. One snag is that the power consumption has increased to about 50-100 Watts in the 3rd generation unit, but generally at the lower end of this range. If we have a single 200 Watt solar panel we might need one hour of bright sunshine for every 2-4 hours of internet use and batteries to match. The 3rd gen. unit uses 110 volt AC household supply which can be provided by a 12 volt inverter with some loss of efficiency, possibly requiring up to 120 Watts DC. Since Watts=Amps x Volts this equates to 10 amps. Four hours of use at 10 amps would require a 40 Amp.Hour battery, not counting other electrical requirements such as the fridge freezer, fans and lighting. You would need extra to cover rainy days with little sunshine. The device uses an internal voltage of 57 volts, but unfortunately, Starlink have not considered it necessary to provide a DC power input socket. So, some people cut a hole in the dish to get access to a DC input and use a 12 volt DC to 57 volt DC converter. Of course this voids the warranty. But improvisation is half the fun of RVing!
About May 27th 2024 (2 days ago) StarLink reduced the price of 3rd Generation RESIDENTIAL hardware from $599 to $349 in selected states. During registration it asks you to enter your location. When you start typing it shows a map of USA. Move the big dot to your area and click to order. If it is one of the selected states it will show $349, otherwise $599. If your state has the more expensive option you can choose a state which does have the selected price, indicating that you intend to use it there, but enter your own address for delivery. This works. In my case I believe it is legitimate because I live near Bristol, TN which straddles the border between TN and VA. It happens that VA is included and TN is not. So I ordered it this way and it worked. They sign you up for a residential plan, but after you have tried it out at home, you can switch to the regional roaming plan which is $150. StarLink also doubled the monthly fee for Global Roaming from $200 to $400. However, regional roaming includes USA, Canada and Mexico.
Outstanding advice Josh! People like myself that spent a career in the military love the life. My next unit will be for living full-time for two years!!!
You guys Rock!!!! I love my RV and we really enjoy it. But yeah it ain't exactly a trouble or dollar free "lifestyle". And it can be a full time job booking sites and planning your trips. Not for the faint of heart or pocket. But I dig it.
What an awesome video. You did a wonderful job of pointing out both pros and cons, something all prospective buyers should either see or hear. I wanted a camper for a long time, but my hubby held off because he felt we wouldn't use it enough each year to make it a good choice. He was right. Just using it once or twice a year wouldn't have been a logical move with both of us working full time and farming.
I was kidding about my earlier comment. I should have said I appreciate your bringing this type of truth to your viewers for those who havent really thought about the ins and outs and what if's
Josh, thank you. I can agreed with you on most everything you said. Something that shocked me when my family started camping again after a few years off was the fees to use our state parks in Indiana. The first time we showed up and was charged a gate fee after paying for the site online I was like say what lol. If you buy firewood from most camp grounds you will be charged a premium over gas station prices that are unbelievable in their self. I find when buying food for most of our vacations I tend to spend more and stock the fridge and freezer better then we do if we just stayed home. Overall would change a thing. Buying our camper from Bishs and meeting you the day we picked it up was a great experience. Maybe you will be in-house when we buy our next one 😊.
Firewood is definitely a tricky thing but you really shouldn't transfer firewood around that's not native to the area. It's a way to introduce things like bugs into an area where they don't belong and screw up local ecosystems a bit So.. we get stuck overpaying for firewood
Thanks for the video. Love your videos as they are just informative and entertaining. So one of the big things that folks need to consider is their tow vehicle. Car dealers are seriously misinformed about what these trucks are capable of. I got sold a Nissan Frontier that I thought could tow a 6100 lb trailer max. Not the case at all. Turns out there are other things in the manual that seriously restrict the truck. Lucky for me I am really only looking for a pop up camper to take my kids camping and give my autistic daughter a safe place to be when we travel if she has issues. I don't know if you have a video yet or would make a video but I think so folks can avoid the issues I ran into maybe making a video about selecting a proper tow vehicle. The big limiting factor on my truck is the frontal area of the truck and trailer. I am limited to 30 square feet. No one knows what I am talking about but it is in the Nissan manual. Even the Nissan dealer has no clue about that. RV dealers look at me like a deer in the headlights not knowing what it is. So yeah buying a tow vehicle is seriously overlooked by most. I completely understand why folks just say buy a full size truck to avoid the problems of smaller trucks like the Nissan Frontier.
I've learned the majority of salespeople in almost any field have a painful lack of knowledge about the products they're supposed to be representing. I've found this true of cars, boats, RVs, electronics.. anything really
I'm in a position of mostly imagining RVing as 'I would like one of these things... in maybe 20-25 years, when I'm nearer to retirement and making enough money that going out glamping 2-3 times a year is more than a pipe dream'... so I've been watching your videos generally looking at floor plans and features trying to get a sense of what I'd want. Having a good practical breakdown of the realities of the situation is actually very appreciated.
@@JoshtheRVNerd A relic from my time working on a college newspaper, staying up late on production nights to get the paper put to bed every week with as few typos and double entendres in the headlines as possible. It started as the title of my opinion column and turned into a screen name as time went on.
Uncle Josh, you and your Bish's RV family are amazing! The honesty and candor are so refreshing. You guys remind me of my mechanic, who told me I needed to get rid of a car because he saw what was coming in the way of problems. He would have definitely made more money if I had kept it, as the new one won't be in his shop at least until it's out of warranty. But he's forward-thinking, and I see that with your organization. Keep up the great work, keep posting your amazing videos, and watch out for those silly princess beds.😊
Your transparency and honesty is a breath of fresh air in and industry that usually is greasier than a pan of bacon. Wish you guys had a location in Alberta, Canada because that is sorely missed in most of our RV dealers. Thanks for another great video Josh!
THIS is the best and most honest description of the RV ownership experience I have ever seen/heard. If you substitute RV with boat ownership, same. In my experience, you have to be handy. Small issues pop up throughout the ownership experiience and you need to accept the fact you will need to embrace fixing the small stuff. I love the quote "fixing things, stuff, sh1t in paradise" haha brilliant. And the accessasabilty issues...yup. BUT....the experience....ahhh, focus on that...That is why my family loves to do what we do. Every year we spend serious quality time together!
Appreciate your honesty and candor. One thing I'd like to mention is the upkeep. In the boating world there is the idea of the 10% rule, although some might disagree with this. Let's say I buy a sailboat for 50k, I should anticipate setting aside 5k per year. This is over and above any payment one might have, this is just routine operating costs and or maintenance. If all goes well the first year and I don't spend the 5k or whatever is left just keep putting in the money (10% of the 50k). One never knows when there may be a catastrophic failure of any given system. This way you have the rainy day money. The same should hold true for an RV. Another thing is that there are a lot of people who for whatever reason buy an RV and never use it. Get rid of it, probably cheaper to just rent one, or, rent the one out that you don't use. Thanks Josh, keep up the great work.
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So glad Bish's RV let you continue being honest. Much respect to you and the company you represent.
Every dealer should show this video before every RV sale.
If anything they really took the leash 100% off
Some people may not realize how much of a selling feature this is. Your videos with Bish's allowing such transparency is contributing to a huge trust factor.👍
@@alanploetz7100 I'm feeling that I'll be able to trust Bish's RV with my RV purchase in the very,very near future. Josh is upfront and honest,..I can tell. After nearly twenty five years of tent camping,I'm wanting to make the transition up to a tent camper,...or pop up! My 60 year old bones can't take the hard ground anymore! LOL!
@@JoshtheRVNerd That's a good thing!
Talk to your SO before buying! A guy I know retired and promptly bought a tow vehicle and an RV. His wife was not pleased. She had no intention of spending their golden years cooking and cleaning; she wanted restaurants, housekeeping, and room service. The trailer got sold, they bought two motorcycles, and they're still happily married touring the country staying in hotels.
And don't let these big box stores split up you and your partner to try to individually put the press on you. I cannot believe how predatory some places are
I retired from the cruise only business, and in a lot of married cruisers was one waited a lifetime to travel on a ship, and the other had no desire to step aboard a ship and be surrounded by water with an island NOT within swimming distance... There is usually more to a buying experience that a sales person covers. THANK YOU Josh for sharing.
Sounds like a match made in heaven... those folks will not be getting a divorce anytime soon. 🏍🏍🧡
When I was selling RVs I had a customer do this and it was quite a strain on his marriage. Best idea is to not surprise your SO with a purchase of this scale.
I was walking the dog and I passed a campsite with a beautiful airstream and brand new tow vehicle. There was a kind lady, clearly proud as peaches, on the awning side of the rig. I complimented their setup and she told me how much she and her husband LOVE camping!!!!
Over in "civilization corner " her husband, rubber gloves and all, looked up at me silently shaking his head......
It ain't for everyone.
It’s weird that in the rv world the term “hand built” isn’t a good thing. Anywhere else you have something hand built it usually means it’s well made.
lol right?!
The difference being, hand-built and (along a) production line are not usually used in the same sentence.
I'm fairly new to RV camping but I have found it to be super hard to get a spot at some campgrounds. What makes it easier is my trailer is very small so I can grab the spots the big guys can't fit in. When I was a kid everyone I knew had smaller trailers and they slept whole families in them and we're just fine. Now everyone has these huge monster trailers and I have to ask, why? My trailer is a tent on wheels. We only use it to sleep in. We do everything outside, even cooking and washing dishes. So that's my advice. Really think about just how big your trailer has to be. It's not a trophy. Buy it to use it, not as bragging rights. With these big trailers you also need a huge rig that is not good to use for anything else.
Funny how that’s changed
It is hilarious to me watching these RVs come and go out of the campground. There are about 40 RVs here permanently (we live in them all year round). Those are usually small in comparison to a lot of the ones that come in the summer and are parked for weekend use (folks who pay for a spot all summer to use on the weekends). It is quite obvious which ones are status symbols (like the toy hauler across the road from our tiny Springdale).
I agree with you completely. We Dodge Grand Caravan camped for years in Alaska. I see no reason to have a giant RV if you're only going to use it on your days off. But it's like the hotel industry now going to a "home away from home" approach. People want to get away, but not really.
Completely agree. Well said.
Can I ask what kind of trailer your running?
@@boomafoo9 it's a home built but it's 13 feet long. I designed it to sleep two adults and up to 3 kids.
As always your the best. My wife and I was planning on full time RV’ing. I was researching, watching videos of full timers & your channel. But unfortunately life happened before we got to start, now I’m a widower. Before she passed away I told her it’s a good thing that we hadn’t bought a TT she agreed. Josh continue doing what you’re doing. People appreciate honesty unfortunately nowadays honestly it a rarity.
TY James!
In 1978 we moved from Ill. to S.D. with a self converted Dodge Maxi Van and a tent. Family of 5. WE camped in the Black Hills a few years till we bought a used 21' TT. Sold it to buy a house. Sold house to move to Indiana in '87. We used Dad and Mom's class C and class A one time each till 2000 when we bought a used TT again Kids all gone by now. 2005 we bought a new 32' Montana 5th. Lost count of the number of miles we put on it the next 12 years going west to visit family and other short trips. Traded that one for out current 36' 5th in 2017. We have about 25K miles on it now and we are in out 4th year of snow birding in warmer areas. We are now in our mid and late 70's with no intentions of selling or trading it now. But age will catch up with us some year. Thanks for your video.
Man stay active and stay young!
As an experienced camper/RVer, you hit just about everything!! It is a commitment that you have to be ready for…don’t expect to make any money on the deal.
Ty! I appreciate that
There is also the cost to license and insure these RV's, and the insurance doesn't necessarily cover everything.
I so enjoy your video's, and really appreciate that you are so up front about everything.
Our pleasure!
The motorcycle connection with buying accessories is 100% spot on. It is never the item itself... those darn accessories are a good way to make your wallet need grief counseling!
lol
Josh you and Bish's RV are the best. You dare go somewhere others would not dare, this is the type of things that make someone OUTSTANDING in their field. GO RV NERD'S!
Our pleasure!
I’m now on my 5th trailer. The point you made about “hey what do you say we go camping this weekend?” Is pretty much a thing of the past. Now pretty much anywhere you have to have reservations. It kills the whole spontaneity of the adventure.
I hear this a lot. Frequent travelers often tell me though they do not have trouble finding a place for the night & often advise many places have open sites when they get there
@@JoshtheRVNerd Wife and I purchased a new 14" RV 13 years ago. Camper looks almost as good as the day we purchased it. Takes lots of care and maintenance. Just like owning a boat. Back when we first purchased it we could literally book a campsite 2 or less days before arrival. Totally changed now and it makes it way difficult to up and go. We have 2 very unpredictable working schedules. Good video.
The wife and I are long-time campers with tents. We bought our Class C, shortly after I retired almost three years ago. We bought ours used, mainly due to the prohibitive cost of a new Class C. The comfort we now experience camping, offsets the costs of RV storage, maintenance, propane and gasoline to travel to our destinations. Tenting and being a senior are kinda' incompatible in our experience.
There's something to be said too for the "self care" almost theraputic effect you can enjoy when camping as well
@JoshtheRVNerd , you have that correct. The cologne of wood smoke does wonders for folks who want to "get-out" of the city frequently during the spring/summer and fall.
This sort of content is why i enjoy your channel so much. Put to the side the consistent, solid, relatively unbiased information you provide. You urge people to realistically purchase what they can handle not what they can afford.
TY Richard. I always appreciate your daily visits
@@JoshtheRVNerd I don't always comment, but I do watch every video you produce. I know what I want, but that doesn't preclude me from watching alternatives.
Thanks again Josh. I was having a good day until this video 😂. But seriously, those who have spent enough time even tent camping know people are people, and they are like a box of mixed chocolates!!!
Hi Josh I think they should have a class for the people to teach them about rv ing before they take delivery it is a must to do to make them understand and have a question and answer just a thought take care happy camping
Thanks for all you do to promote responsible RVing Josh. My husband and I have been subscribers since before the pandemic. Loved how you weathered those tough times when we were all locked down (gotta admit those videos hold a special place in our hearts). Keep being you, we're here for it 😊
Extremely good advice. If I didn't have my husband I would never be able to keep up with all of the maintenance maintenance on our RV.
I've never been the super handy type. Always had more of a knack for mental dexterity vs. physical. I totally get what you're saying
I love your videos. Im going to sell my sticks and bricks and buy a 5th wheel camper. Im going to be mainly stationary , but may go on a vacation from time to time. I have lived in one before with someone, but this time, im going it alone. I have watched hundreds of videos about maintenance and repairs, and i like challenges, so i think im ready for this one.
Excellent info. As a senior citizen and a widowed female RVing is something I’ve been longing to do. Gave me lots of food for thought. Thank you.
For what it's worth - you're not alone! About 90% of solo RVers are ladies. You may not realize it but there's a whole traveling sisterhood out there
@@JoshtheRVNerdTrue. When I first learned that after following Travels Without Charlie for awhile, I thought it was rather strange. I wonder why that's the case?
You are correct about having a third party. I ended up buying a brand new RV and the roof had a leak. It caused damage. Thank goodness it was still under the warranty. They had to remove the whole roof keeping our RV for a whole month.
i don't know if my wife will ever agree to buying an rv but if she ever does i am coming to see you Josh
We'll be ready if and when you are!
Amen to that, Josh and the team at Bish's are definitely the top of my list if and when we are ready.
My thoughts exactly @donalexander4083 Bish's don't have many locations in the south where I live but I'm only about a hour 15 min from Longview location and when I'm ready to upgrade out of my 09 and buy new I'll be checking then them first. All because of Josh and his videos. He'll there's 3 camper places in the down I live in and I'm still going to Longview first. I hope by that time they have some of there Wayfinders in stock there insted of just having the option to have it shipped there
Well done video. So many have no idea what is involved with ownership.
I see it every day man. Hope it helps some folks
Great video. Here's an incomplete list of what I have bought so far just for the trailer alone: Anti-sway hitch, new power lift, lift cover, full TPMS system, LP tank cover, new door locks, wheel chocks, wheel covers, pest control items, new ceiling vent fan, spare tire cover, bumper hitch mount, wheel levelers, electronic level system x2, water hoses x3, water pressure regulator, water filters x2, water Y adapter, leveler blocks, various tools and lots of them, fuses, lubricants and conditioner fluids, full camera system, parking related extras, outdoor chairs, outdoor table, outdoor extras and fire pit, electrical extension cables x3, electrical power adapters, power filers 30&50 amp, sewer hoses x4, sewer adapters and fittings, electrical generator, kitchen gear and cooking gear, bedding, new shower head, special toilet paper, various inside cleaning agents, extra clothing to leave in the RV. And the list goes on... I still love it though!
Yeah.. it's never JUST the RV
Thanks Bish's. Here is my 2 cents. Let your spouse decide what RV to buy if your spouse has concerns. I wanted to do winter camping towing a travel trailer. My wife did not like that concept but she found truck campers and we agreed on one we could live with. We ordered it during Covid with a big truck, sold the house and have lived in our RV for the last 2 years. Best retirement decision we ever made. 😃
wow!
RV living has definitely had some great advantages for us. It's certainly cheaper than owning a house and it's great that you can pick up and move if you don't like the location. I wish more states would allow full time RV living. With my husband looking for a new job, that has been a huge issue. Too many states don't support tiny house living (which they group RV living into). That means that we have to figure out what to do with the RV if we take the job and we're back to a house. 😒
WOW you hit the nail on the head !!! Great video , I hope all new RVers watch this video because you just spit out the truth !! Your section " neighbors " was outstanding because we just where camping 2 weeks ago and found the camper from hell next door . Playing there music till 1am with there outside speakers . Then at 7am forgetting they still had there outside speakers on full blast they turned on the news so everyone in the camp ground could hear it . Both the wife and I said lets leave 2 days early because the state camp ground wouldn't do anything about the noise .
TY Michael!
We live in an RV park in Ohio and have two sets of those neighbors. When we moved to our current spot, it was the quiet area of the park. After two moved for various reasons, they were replaced by the partier's that were requested to leave the area they had been parked in. Now we deal with loud music till 4 am every weekend and sometimes during the week. They keep complaining about us assuming we are the ones complaining about them. Luckily, my husband got a job in Vermont and we're leaving before the camping season starts again. I can't do another summer with these people.
I love camping and tent camped for years. But having a small tow behind with shower, hard walls, and creature comforts, I knew I would need to buy one. Don't use it much, but my budget affords it, and now I can go anywhere with all the amenities I could ever need.
Love your down to earth approach
Thanks, Nerd. That is very good advice. We've been dreaming of owning an RV for many years, but never got to it for various reasons. As we think more about it, it has become apparent that we are not going to get the most out of it. The biggest thing for us is storage as we live in a city. Besides the cost, we have to travel to the storage facility to take of things, including clearing snow off the roof after a big snow fall. On top of that, we'd have to own a gas-guzzling truck that we'd have no good use for when not towing. In fact, I foresee I'd avoid driving it at much as possible. With platforms like RVezy, there really is not a good use case to own an RV. Thanks again.
Yeah the logistics sometimes ruin the potential fun
Great video - even as a reminder for those of us who have been camping a long time. We got our first RV, a class C, in 2002. When the kids were young we use to leave it parked in the driveway fully stocked from Memoria Day to Labor Day. In additional to weekend and vacation camping use used it on trips to the lake or beach in NH. You had your fridge, a place to take a nap in the AC with an infant and a shower to get the sand/salt off before going out to dinner. The saying “Better by Buy Experiences than Things.” Well an RV “Thing” allows you to have all kinds of experiences you might not otherwise be able to afford due to time or money. Finally you mention potential rowdy neighbors. Have you flown lately, the behavior in airports and on planes can be worse than the worst late night drunk camper
As someone who flies now and again for work.. not a fan of airports. It's a miserable experience and I thank netflix and my airpods for helping distract me thru it lol
Really good info to share. Sometimes people fall in love with “idea” of rving, but don’t slow down enough to really consider what they’re signing up for! Great integrity for someone in rv sales to actually shine the light on the reality of owning an rv.
I try!
Good point. I suspect it's probably not unlike people falling in love with the idea of marriage without thinking that thru!! Knowledge, foresight, resource allocation, planning, etc. are all important; but as in marriage, the keys to long-term success are participant commitment & being realistic & flexible.
Been living tiny for several years and full-time digital nomad for 2 years now... VERY GOOD video. Accurate on the challenges, which is surprising from a dealership. ❤
Thanks for sharing!
As a 1st timer, this is a really knowledgeable video. I really didn't consider many of the factors you mention. Wow!!! I am thinking about a travel trailer. Logistics, upkeep, fuel (???), storage, getting into camp grounds-fees, neighbor issues and the INTERNET issue was an eye opener. I was considering working remotely using my Travel Trailer as I traveled. This may be an issue now. I will keep watching you for your honest approach. Thank you. I better rent 1st perhaps.
Little video here with a few more tips for first timers
Renting first is actually one of them
m.ruclips.net/video/DO3u1Bk-rbE/видео.html
Propane costs, firewood costs, preventative maintenance, repairs, supplies, chairs, tools, cleaning supplies, protection products, group events, weather damages, hosting others, and some times over doing partying. It can also strain friendships and relationships.
lol only takes one person to ruin a good time
You know I pay for everything in your list living in my sticks and bricks now.
@@TheDesertdawg1 very, very true. Unfortunately, most people don't think about the fact that they are having to pay for it twice when buying a "home away from home" like an RV.
The generations of people that will soon enter into the RV world that buy fast food to be delivered to their front door step, will most likely not be inconvenienced with the poor quality of dealing with RV maintenance. It’s fine with me because it will become easier to find a campsite lol. I truly enjoy the rv experience but I have much patience. Tell that to those that expect things right away, right now. I hope I’m wrong because many wonderful people are employed to provide us these rvs, that can create wonderful memories. Thankful for people and businesses like yours.
Dude door dash is magic
It turns $17 of Subway
Into $51 of Subway
The ole Can Opener Bridge on Gregson St in Durham NC.
lol that's the one!
Josh, again I appreciate your candor. Your videos are awesome. “Honesty is a very expensive gift. Don’t expect it from cheap people.” Warren Buffett
Great quote!
I am 75, I have been camping my whole life, I discovered around 55. It was hard to get up off the ground after tent camping, so we got into an RV and we loved it ever cents.
Nice!
Not only prices of everything going up, interest rates on trucks and RV's now is ridiculous.
It's rough
One of my sons worked for an RV manufacturer just out of high school. Yes, they were built fast, and mistakes were made. They had a saying; ***k it, shim it, send down the line!" He quit not wanting to be apart of that. He told me that with some of that, people could get hurt. Now, I know there have been a lot of advancements in the way they are built now. But they are still built by people. Love how Bish's keeps you posting honest information.
Even if you find storage, I have been told I couldn't have exterior solar security cameras.
Odd… how could you be stopped from installing a camera????
@@janicethoni8421 The first time I put them up, they were taken down. Tried to put them up again this past fall and I was told no and I had to take them down.
We bought a 2023 unit last year that has outside speakers. After hearing and witnessing the horror stories about them iwas skeptical about useing them, but I found out that with ours at least they only really project straight forward. So people behind you and to the side of you cant hear them unless you play really really loud. We also had to have our unit go back to the factory for some repairs. We brought it to the dealership end of August and didn't get it back until January. Fortunately for us camping season was done but something to think about.
Most folks don't consider that. It's a great point
Nailed on the Amazon boxes. We dry camp and quad side by side ride. We bought a travel trailer that is perfect for this other hobby riding in the side by side. It will be nice to come back shower, eat sleep if it rains we can watch TV.
It's nice to have that comfy roof over your head
Just me personally. Camped on & of 50 years, now retired purchased a new TT. Rough figures comparing $100 per night hotel stay, 3 night camping trips times 52 weeks (not practical) recoup cost of Rv is 70 years. This is not factoring in cost to actually travel to camp. I don’t drink or gamble so I am ok with spending my money to camp 30-40 nights per year. Oh & I did not pay for a seat at the Super Bowl. Thanks for the reality check for all of us
My superbowl seat was my living room couch :)
Of all your great informational videos this is my favorite! It's made my wife and I rethink our plans to upgrade to a larger 5th wheel when we retire. We still want a new one as ours is well used, but not sure we need the new monster size 5th wheel we were planning on for our planned 2 to 4 months of travel per year. Really great thought provoking information!
Glad it was helpful!
This was very honest and transparent content. I hope people listen. Love that you suggest all first-time RV buyers get a third-party inspection before purchasing. Thanks Josh. Like your hat... maybe you could get a hat that says "The RV Nerd" and sell one to the rest of us, "just another RV nerd".
😂 that’s great. You can get one like mine at nerdherdstore.myshopify.com/ if interested
Thank You, “Vary Much” 2 things I’m happy to know first there’s you that I learn from and second there’s a BUSH’s RV dealership in Tx. Guess where I’m going when I buy my FIRST TRAVEL TRAILER “ThankYou” Sir.
Glad to help!
Thanks for doing this very honest and factual video. It also shows the difference between Bish's RV and other dealerships. Great job, Bish's and Josh!
Thanks for watching!
You want to see people's tempers go off easy get them to back up a trailer into a tight spot or as them if they know there clearance to go in a tunnel or under a bridge
You have a good video on the realistic of rving
I've only been RVing for about 3.5 years, and I've loved every minute it because I never had an unrealistic expectation. i didn't buy a truck to save on gas, I don't get all the amazon boxes to be fiscally responsible... heck I've gotten some whatchamacallits and doohickeys I later regretted. It's all about the experience, the trial and error to live, if only for a weekend, the life you want. You definitely have to go in knowing what you're getting and take the good with the bad. Well done on laying it out, all card on the table.
This is such a great, real world comment. TY
I hope tons of people watch this video and take the information into consideration. Due to the ignorance of many RV owners (especially first time casual owners) I was actually more afraid to buy used due to the potential for additional problems caused by negligence, the thought of dealing with those problems coupled with any unresolved manufacturer issues caused us to buy new. Any preventative maintenance issues are on us and we'll just have to fight the manufacturer for any caused by them, lol.
Very good video. We made a mistake buying a pop-up. At the time We both were over 65 was way to much work.
Woof.. yeah.. that's a lot
My partner wanted a pop-up. I said no. freaking. way! I don't want to exhaust myself before I can even enjoy the destination.
Pop up or not it’s not easy .It can be a handful sometimes and that’s just getting it on site according the campground.
100% spot on Josh. In our first 3 seasons, we've spent over $7k in accessories... Maintenance is a must... proper tow vehicle is a must... the cost of things while at the park... something always comes up... but it's my happy place 😊 Marc and Trish from KYD said it best: "Start where you are" camp on your budget. Rent First, try it out!!!
I totally agree with that "start in your buddget" and rent first concept for sure
We are retired and yes, it is physically demanding. We don’t mind that. It is great for thinking on your feet. Our big issue is the incidents of frightening weather. We have been in scary stuff that was not predicted.
Small campers are becoming more popular but people need to think realistically about the size of their camper before buying. We liked our small camper until we encountered some really bad weather on a couple of trips. When we had to spend a significant amount of time inside, our opinion changed. And since we used our own bathroom/shower facilities, two people trying to get ready at the same time became something we had to work out a strategy for. And setting up/tearing down a campsite is a good amount of work and can make long trips a lot of work, too. Josh hit the nail on the head when he said there’s a degree of physical ability necessary.
That’s why we literally say the hardest part of our job is finding you the rv best fit for you
Good point on the tow vehicle aspect. Our 3800 lb GVW trailer (3100 dry) is lightly loaded, but towing it with our Honda Pilot (4500 lb rating) wasn't a walk in the park. Although it could do it, you could tell wind resistance also factored into it. It was working hard and spent a lot of time in third gear on the highways. If we got a good wind gust from the side, it was quite noticeable. Very different from towing our old 2000 pound popup. Now we have a pickup truck, and it's a much better experience. Still gets a measly 12 MPG when we're towing it, but it does a better job of it.
Thanks for the great information buddy you’re always the honest guy if I’m in the market for an RV I will be heading your way
TY Kirk! We're ready when you are
Around here, you have to book it 5 months in advance (the provincial parks literally sell out during peak season) beyond that, you might get a last minute booking... but don't show up hoping to find a spot. The edges of the season are a different matter. My last trip of the season ended up being a frosty late October weekend with a full moon... AND AN ENTIRE SECTION OF THE PARK TO OURSELVES! Literally couldn't see a soul... not even their lights. It's been the most peaceful trip I can remember.
I love LOVE fall camping
Thank you for all the info you provide. I am trying to get my wife to pay attention to all this. I want her to know it won't all be roses. I have been researching for almost 2 years now. I will a least know what is going on, but no hands on. I can't believe people buy stuff and don't find out anything about it.
It’s so common though. It’s crazy
I've been doing this for a year now and I find my biggest irritation is commercial campgrounds. Trying to decipher each campground's policy and rules is a world class headache. Especially pet rules. I just saw a park in FL that charged a $100 pet fee and no pet over 20 pounds. Some claim to be pet friendly then when you get there or reading the fine print on their website (which frequently doesn't exist) you find they won't take you because you have either too many or too large or wrong breed etc. Then after they turn you away they won't refund anything. Some have rules as to what type of RV or how old you can be or who knows what else. I have definitely learned that using parks, be they federal, state, or local is the way to go if you possibly can. Corps of Engineers parks seem especially nice and are very reasonable priced.
BTW, I have found Josh's videos to be quite accurate when compared to my actual experiences. While I am happy with my selling dealer, I think if I were to trade I would definitely try to find a Bish's dealer.
Ty Jeffrey
Appreciate the kindness at the end
Transparency is only one of the many reasons that my wife and I enjoy your channel. Your weird sense of humor and your dad jokes play a big role in our reasons for watching. The fact that you supply good information, in that dulcet voice, is of course the main reason people follow you and your channel. Thanks
You say dulcet
My wife says annoying
Potato Tomato
Thank you, Josh, for your openness and honesty. Thank you to Bish's for being a confident enough company to allow Josh to do this his way. Much respect to both you, Josh, and Bish's......and when i've found the one i truly want and am ready to make the purchase, i will be heading to Bish's.😊
I think it's cool this video was actually our President's idea. I just fleshed it out and recorded it
This video should be required to watch at every dealer before you buy. Great job!!
TY Mark!
One thing that I didn’t hear you mention is zoning. I’m in Southern California and there’s a LOT of communities that have ordinances prohibiting the parking of rv, motor homes or trailers no matter how much parking space you have on your property. When I lived in Long Beach I had a parking lot with spaces for 5-6 cars. I was fined for having 3 after a new ordinance that allowed only 2.
I don't run into that here so never considered it. REALLY appreciate the insight and perspective
Your list is SPOT ON. If you’re seeing this video and any of these things concern you, I’d seriously pump the brakes. It definitely is a commitment.
Been watching you for years Josh. Your honesty has always been very refreshing. So glad Bish’s lets you do what you could do for your dad.
We will definitely consider Bish’s for our next camper purchase.
TY for watching. We appreciate the opportunity when you're ready!
Love our camper, spend a lot of time in it and on it. If either spouse goes into this hobby with the thought of.. “ let’s get a camper and we will save money on hotels and travel”, they are not ready to buy! 😊
Yep. I can stay in a lot of hotels for the cost of an RV and tow vehicle. Also with the increased prices for campsites they aren't all that much cheaper than a hotel room.
The fully loaded resorts are often more then a nice hotel in the same area, but we still love the RV life.@@oldengineer1519
I bought my travel trailer to stay over the road working road construction. so i'm actually saving half of the money from motels, even with campground cost and payment.
nice!
Planning on an upgrade this spring. Bringing our 21 ft Jayco. We’re gonna get a motel room for two days of shopping. Get ready Jesse
It's very cool that you give a realistic view of Recreational Vehicle life 😊
Man we try
HOA rules! We've moved into our own house now with"Rosie" safely parked on concrete behind our gate and no HOA, thank you very much!
I know many HOA neighborhoods are nice. But man.. someone telling me what to do with my property like that?
Just.. not for me
while dealers have no real control over how campgrounds operate, it was good to hear your comments about people who reserve multiple camping spots only to cancel at the last minute. I'd love to see a change in the campground industry which would include pre-paid non-refundable deposit. Doesn't have to be much but that would help eliminate the bots and the resellers. It's true that one can usually find a spot they want the day of but that includes a risk that they can't find one.
More campground owners are starting to implement cancellation policies to help curb behavior but many still have nothing stopping people from booking three weeks, watching the weather report, then going for one weekend
After RVing for over 35 yrs and 4 different RV’s. What you said in this video is GOSPEL truth!
Do to age and body infirmity, the wife and I gave up RVing. I still like to see what’s new in the industry. Knowing our camping now is in a motel. Keep making these videos to help the newcomers understand the RV lifestyle.
Ty for the confirming voice Robert
I have looked at RVs for several years, mostly from Josh😅. I like some RVs, but after seeing some RV campgrounds at state parks I visit, I’m not sure I want to stay in those areas. Lots of noise, bright lights, drinking, generators (where there are no hookups). With a nice tent, I have a bit more flexibility.
Tenting really does give you freedom for sure
Brother, from your lips to my brain, thank you for the straight talking honesty
You got it
Rvs and swimming pools have alot in common i noticed, when ppl first get them, ppl use them a lot but as time goes by, they get used less and less and they both are a lot of work. Another useful video nerd!
Yeah it can vary. I think any "recreational" thing can be like that
@@JoshtheRVNerd True but i wasn't going to list them all to make my point.
Thanks for keeping it real. As for me, we have learned the hard way. Started with a really nice pop-up, and a truck that was just too small for the weight. Traded the truck for a larger truck that could handle the popup, then, had structural problems with the popup, so went to a really nice 2020 Jayco White Hawk 32RL. The dealer stated your truck can pull it fine. Well... Yes it can, but, right at it's max tow weight. The real problem is not the tow weight, but, the length and height of the trailer. Pulling 36.8ft, at 9000lbs with a 1/2 ton is not a comfortable experience. I think that you have to be realistic about what YOU think you need, as well as what really you are comfortable with. As for us, we are looking to upgrade our truck again, and this time, will over-buy as far as what it can tow. They just don't ever tell you this. Manufacturers state "10, 11, 12, 14, or 15K on that 1/2 ton truck...Ours is rated at 9240lbs max. That is great that it can pull it, but, reality is that you need a heavier truck to allow for the length and width you are actually pulling. Once you know, what you need, the lifestyle is fun. But, approaching with your own knowledge is key to a great experience.
I don't know everything about towing but I have learned I know more than most folks and man.. there is so much BAD towing advisory out there from completely unqualified people
Yup! I so appreciate your honesty in this industry! ❤ We found that we had to buy a generator because our favorite camp ground does not have electric hook-ups.
We've also found alot of empty sites because people don't cancel. So please, cancel if you're not going to use it!
Thank you to Bish's RV and to you, Josh! ❤
Thanks for sharing and watching
Hi Uncle Josh. Another thing to add. If you’re not going to leave the campsite as good as or better than you found it, ie. NOT leaving it trashed! Then camping is not for you. Before the pandemic campsites were good, since the pandemic A Lot of people are leaving them in not so great shape for the next camper, very aggravating!
FACTS! Leave no trace
@@JoshtheRVNerd I say leave a trace, make it better!!!!
I just came across your channel a few daya ago and have found it quite informative. I'm looking at purchaing a Travel Trailer next year after I've done some extensive research for what will fit me and visit a few places.
I served in the military for over 28 years and drive large vehicles with large trailers and doing the setup work wouldn't be a problem. 😂 I'm only 52 and still in my prime.
This is the video I wish I saw before I got into the travel trailer life. Thankfully we ended up loving it more than we ever thought we would! The cost involved is rather staggering. Thanks to RUclips I’m a professional in repairing most things myself!
Yeah it's more than JUST the RV
Thx, JRVN. As usual, your honestly and forthrightness are both valuable for their insights & interesting in the presentation. Keep up the good work.
This is just the kind of video I expect from “Uncle” Josh. Giving you all the info and insight you need before buying or choosing the RV life. Can you think of another person who would talk to you out of buying and RV then this amazing guy? Outstanding job Josh👏🏻👍🏻
We just want to see our clients happy. Happy clients seem to be return clients and generate referrals
Crazy. I know.
I don't yet own an RV. I wound up here to see walk-throughs of models that looked promising and now I'm stuck in a rabbit hole. Waffling between getting something modest my current vehicle can safely tow or bite the bullet and get the 3/4 ton necessary to pull a fifth wheel (you made me sweet on Cougars). One thought that scares the crap out of me is the size of trailers, esp fifth wheels. At 12+ feet high, that's higher than my roof (flat roof on the front), and 8 feet wide is a bit wider that a big truck. A lady in an RV group I'm in ran her TT up onto the concrete island at a gas station because she failed to take into account the extra room she needed at the pump. Then there's right-hand turns and backing it up. Lots of practical things to think about.
I think your thinking is smart, though. You're considering REAL factors and not theoretical stuff
Hey Josh - My wife and I were mostly campers for our first 20 years, and I have to say that those were the best years of our family life! I think that family camping is underrated, and that most families would find it a BLESSING to go camping together, especially when the kids are young (say under 16). I have such fond memories about our family camps, that it amazes me that many prospective family campers would love for their own families. Just do it!!! We had a truck, camper, and boat, and that consumed the majority of our family vacations together. We had campfires every night, went boating and hiking during the day, and it was simply a wholesome place to be! Perhaps if the buying public were to learn more about this aspect of camping, they might want to consider it for their own families? But we are blessed to have had this in our lives, and hope to re-enter the RV vacation life once again now that we are retired! Thanks for all of your wonderful videos, and keep up the great work!!!
TY so much!
Wish we had had a Bish's to buy from when we started out years ago! Thanks for the great tips and reminders!
We're here in the meantime when you're ready!
Josh, I can comfortably say that if I lived in your neck of the woods, I would certainly be visiting Bish's when I'm in the market to buy another RV. You're honesty speaks volumes, and Bish's standing behind it!
Not sure whereabout you call home but you can see all of our locations at www.bishs.com/locations
If nothing else I'd love it if you took a minute to drop me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review
I love your transparency.
TY we try! :)
Storage. I live in the country so I don’t have an HOA or city ordinance telling me what I can and cannot do on my property so my camper is parked and connected to electric at my house. Many people are not allowed to park there camper at home so they have to pay a fee for storing their camper when it’s not in use
That's how I grew up - outside of the city limits. I enjoy being closer to town now (small town as it may be) but someone telling me what I can/cannot do on my property?
Man.. just never sits right with me
@@JoshtheRVNerd yep.
Thanks Josh. We do want INTERNET access for our online projects, producing RUclips videos, and online computer programming as well as streaming TV programs even in remote areas. Starlink looks as though it will be our best solution. It is a bit expensive with $600 for the dish and router plus $150 per month for roaming in the USA. You can also buy global roaming. But you only pay for the months that you need to use it, with no contract. I will think about cancelling our home cable.
The third generation systems have a flat "dish" which can be mounted successfully on the flat roof of an RV, and this does not need the motorized dish positioning system. Apparently you can put a plexiglass cover over it for additional protection. It has a 110 degree view of the sky with its phased array antennae, and doesn't really need to be aligned in any particular orientation. However, obstructions like trees can block the signal and even if it is boiling hot weather you cannot park in the shade if you want a roof mounted antenna to work. The alternative is to set up the antenna by hand some distance away from your RV. But there are stories of other RVs driving right over them. Some RUclips videos show methods of mounting them on a flag pole attached to the ladder or A-frame or elsewhere, but there is a daily overhead in labor to set it up.
One snag is that the power consumption has increased to about 50-100 Watts in the 3rd generation unit, but generally at the lower end of this range. If we have a single 200 Watt solar panel we might need one hour of bright sunshine for every 2-4 hours of internet use and batteries to match. The 3rd gen. unit uses 110 volt AC household supply which can be provided by a 12 volt inverter with some loss of efficiency, possibly requiring up to 120 Watts DC. Since Watts=Amps x Volts this equates to 10 amps. Four hours of use at 10 amps would require a 40 Amp.Hour battery, not counting other electrical requirements such as the fridge freezer, fans and lighting. You would need extra to cover rainy days with little sunshine. The device uses an internal voltage of 57 volts, but unfortunately, Starlink have not considered it necessary to provide a DC power input socket. So, some people cut a hole in the dish to get access to a DC input and use a 12 volt DC to 57 volt DC converter. Of course this voids the warranty. But improvisation is half the fun of RVing!
About May 27th 2024 (2 days ago) StarLink reduced the price of 3rd Generation RESIDENTIAL hardware from $599 to $349 in selected states. During registration it asks you to enter your location. When you start typing it shows a map of USA. Move the big dot to your area and click to order. If it is one of the selected states it will show $349, otherwise $599. If your state has the more expensive option you can choose a state which does have the selected price, indicating that you intend to use it there, but enter your own address for delivery. This works. In my case I believe it is legitimate because I live near Bristol, TN which straddles the border between TN and VA. It happens that VA is included and TN is not. So I ordered it this way and it worked. They sign you up for a residential plan, but after you have tried it out at home, you can switch to the regional roaming plan which is $150. StarLink also doubled the monthly fee for Global Roaming from $200 to $400. However, regional roaming includes USA, Canada and Mexico.
Outstanding advice Josh! People like myself that spent a career in the military love the life. My next unit will be for living full-time for two years!!!
Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
That mentality comes in VERY handy when camping
Wish you were closer. I love your honesty. Your good and bad opinions on every trailer is great. WA state here.
I try. Thank you
If we ever “upgrade” our “vintage/old” camper, we will be shopping at Bish’s. So honest and up front. BTW you owe me a gamer trade. 😂 what game?
Are we PoGo friends or something?
Uncle Josh... 💥YOU💥ROCK💥BROTHER!!!💥 (The Master of The RV Universe 🚀✨🌒🛰️✨✨🌕🪐🌏)
Ty Mr Moe
You guys Rock!!!! I love my RV and we really enjoy it. But yeah it ain't exactly a trouble or dollar free "lifestyle". And it can be a full time job booking sites and planning your trips. Not for the faint of heart or pocket. But I dig it.
Yeah it's great when you get there but the planning and prep can take time. Not everyone realizes that
What an awesome video. You did a wonderful job of pointing out both pros and cons, something all prospective buyers should either see or hear. I wanted a camper for a long time, but my hubby held off because he felt we wouldn't use it enough each year to make it a good choice. He was right. Just using it once or twice a year wouldn't have been a logical move with both of us working full time and farming.
Thank you kindly!
Spot on Nerd.....every newbee should watch this for sure!!!
TY Tim! Glad you like it :)
I was kidding about my earlier comment. I should have said I appreciate your bringing this type of truth to your viewers for those who havent really thought about the ins and outs and what if's
Josh, thank you. I can agreed with you on most everything you said. Something that shocked me when my family started camping again after a few years off was the fees to use our state parks in Indiana. The first time we showed up and was charged a gate fee after paying for the site online I was like say what lol.
If you buy firewood from most camp grounds you will be charged a premium over gas station prices that are unbelievable in their self.
I find when buying food for most of our vacations I tend to spend more and stock the fridge and freezer better then we do if we just stayed home.
Overall would change a thing. Buying our camper from Bishs and meeting you the day we picked it up was a great experience. Maybe you will be in-house when we buy our next one 😊.
Firewood is definitely a tricky thing but you really shouldn't transfer firewood around that's not native to the area. It's a way to introduce things like bugs into an area where they don't belong and screw up local ecosystems a bit
So.. we get stuck overpaying for firewood
Thanks for the video. Love your videos as they are just informative and entertaining.
So one of the big things that folks need to consider is their tow vehicle. Car dealers are seriously misinformed about what these trucks are capable of. I got sold a Nissan Frontier that I thought could tow a 6100 lb trailer max. Not the case at all. Turns out there are other things in the manual that seriously restrict the truck. Lucky for me I am really only looking for a pop up camper to take my kids camping and give my autistic daughter a safe place to be when we travel if she has issues. I don't know if you have a video yet or would make a video but I think so folks can avoid the issues I ran into maybe making a video about selecting a proper tow vehicle. The big limiting factor on my truck is the frontal area of the truck and trailer. I am limited to 30 square feet. No one knows what I am talking about but it is in the Nissan manual. Even the Nissan dealer has no clue about that. RV dealers look at me like a deer in the headlights not knowing what it is. So yeah buying a tow vehicle is seriously overlooked by most. I completely understand why folks just say buy a full size truck to avoid the problems of smaller trucks like the Nissan Frontier.
I've learned the majority of salespeople in almost any field have a painful lack of knowledge about the products they're supposed to be representing. I've found this true of cars, boats, RVs, electronics.. anything really
I'm in a position of mostly imagining RVing as 'I would like one of these things... in maybe 20-25 years, when I'm nearer to retirement and making enough money that going out glamping 2-3 times a year is more than a pipe dream'... so I've been watching your videos generally looking at floor plans and features trying to get a sense of what I'd want.
Having a good practical breakdown of the realities of the situation is actually very appreciated.
your screen name though lololol
@@JoshtheRVNerd A relic from my time working on a college newspaper, staying up late on production nights to get the paper put to bed every week with as few typos and double entendres in the headlines as possible. It started as the title of my opinion column and turned into a screen name as time went on.
@@caffeinedelusions Funny how we gain those little names thru our lives. My gaming screen names have evolved like that as well
Uncle Josh, you and your Bish's RV family are amazing! The honesty and candor are so refreshing. You guys remind me of my mechanic, who told me I needed to get rid of a car because he saw what was coming in the way of problems. He would have definitely made more money if I had kept it, as the new one won't be in his shop at least until it's out of warranty. But he's forward-thinking, and I see that with your organization. Keep up the great work, keep posting your amazing videos, and watch out for those silly princess beds.😊
Will do Ty
Your transparency and honesty is a breath of fresh air in and industry that usually is greasier than a pan of bacon. Wish you guys had a location in Alberta, Canada because that is sorely missed in most of our RV dealers. Thanks for another great video Josh!
Thank you! I appreciate it!
THIS is the best and most honest description of the RV ownership experience I have ever seen/heard. If you substitute RV with boat ownership, same. In my experience, you have to be handy. Small issues pop up throughout the ownership experiience and you need to accept the fact you will need to embrace fixing the small stuff. I love the quote "fixing things, stuff, sh1t in paradise" haha brilliant. And the accessasabilty issues...yup. BUT....the experience....ahhh, focus on that...That is why my family loves to do what we do. Every year we spend serious quality time together!
RVing can be super fun.. but man it's not for everyone
Appreciate your honesty and candor. One thing I'd like to mention is the upkeep. In the boating world there is the idea of the 10% rule, although some might disagree with this. Let's say I buy a sailboat for 50k, I should anticipate setting aside 5k per year. This is over and above any payment one might have, this is just routine operating costs and or maintenance. If all goes well the first year and I don't spend the 5k or whatever is left just keep putting in the money (10% of the 50k). One never knows when there may be a catastrophic failure of any given system. This way you have the rainy day money. The same should hold true for an RV. Another thing is that there are a lot of people who for whatever reason buy an RV and never use it. Get rid of it, probably cheaper to just rent one, or, rent the one out that you don't use. Thanks Josh, keep up the great work.
Yeah it can be more/less but there's always SOME upkeep to be done