I can break it down, Korey. I can look good in an outfit AND still acknowledge I need to lose weight. Both of those can be true. I don’t need anyone to tell me to lose weight. It’s not like I don’t have a mirror. I just don’t want to hate myself or hide myself because I’m fat. Even if some people think I should.
This is literally what body positivity is, it's annoying how it gets misrepresented and co-opted, you can love yourself and want to improve your health.
I agree with Martin on this one. As someone who used to be fat, people telling me about my weight did not help. Like Martin said, I already knew I was fat. Part of that was because I had a thyroid issue that slowed my metabolism. You never know what someone is going through or what reason they have for being overweight. I'm not a doctor, so I don't feel like it's my place to give anyone unsolicited health advice.
I agree with you and Martin but I also don't think that is what Corey was saying. Yes people already know so there is no point in telling them but it's also unhealthy mentally for you to tell that person you are fine the way you are when they are clearly unhealthy. That can take away the incentive to lose weight and create delusion. Yes in your case you had thyroid issues so it's tougher but in any situation there are outliers. I think Corey is trying to bring attention to that other side of people that don't have anything like a thyroid issue that get delusional and lose incentive to become healthier because they start to believe it is ok
If you don't want to give advice that's fine I really hate it when people say, I am not a this, so I cannot speak about that. This appeal to authority fallacy is really annoying, if you don't know enough on a topic and you don't want to speak on it, that is fine. But it's hypocrisy to have a standard, where you must be an expert on a topic, before you can give your opinion on something, no body follows that rule of thumb, not even the person that says it, you just don't want to speak on this issue Also, all this authorities are human, then can be wrong, and motivated by bad reasons to lie. Humans also have a vast amount of information, to do some basic research on issues A big problem in the world is people just defere thier thinking to experts, they use it as an excuse not to think or to hide behind an opinion (because an expert said so)
I'm with Martin. There are slim people who look healthy and have genetic factors that make them not as healthy as you think. Halle Berry has diabetes, Chadwick Boseman died of cancer even though he exercised and lived a healthy lifestyle. The super-sized me guy just died recently. I'm not saying obesity isn't a problem. It's just easier to judge or put down someone who is big because you can see what they're dealing with or assume what's the problem in our society. Many times, it's genetic factors as well. Plus, there is a lot of unhealthy food out there, and you have to eat to survive. Unlike someone just having a bad habit like smoking, alcohol or drugs, even though the same pleasure part of the brain affects all of it. Things affect people differently. Sorry about my long reply!😊
@@damonpatterson8293I agree 100%. The thing is people should love themselves regardless and I’m not saying that means stay unhealthy but you’re unlikely to stick to healthy habits if you put yourself down or don’t love yourself on the journey. People just get burnt out that way imo. Everyone is worthy of self love and part of that is also self improvement. And self improvement isn’t likely if you don’t think you’re worth it
Another problem with "Body positivity" is that it only applies to women. How many male plus sized models are there compared to female plus sized models? When an overweight women goes to the beach in a bikini she's praised as beautiful but when an overweight guy goes to the beach shirtless he gets made fun of.
In our society men's looks aren't as important as women's looks. That's where it starts. So making fun of a man's looks isn't the same as a woman's. It's a double standard man smh
@@LG4K4K I'm just saying this is the way it is. I never said I agree with it but doesn't matter what I think. It's the way it is. I don't embrace it I simply realize it
Totally agree, it's okay to show a heavyset woman in a big lingerie ad, but where's the fat guy in his tightly whities? If you point that out to the women who praise the "Body positive" ads, they'll go "Because no one wants to see that" and then I say "Now you know how I feel when I see these ads" and walk away. 😂
Indeed. I still can't get the over the fact that Martin once told Korey on the show that he's secure in his manhood to go clothes shopping with him. Martin making Korey look like a insecure manchild was enjoyable to watch. I'll never forget that as long as I live.
Body positivity doesn't promote people to just be fat man like wtf. Martin is the only one with some sense. At the end of the day nobody but you and your doctor should be talking about your health. Loved the South Park episode though!
I agree with Martin. I hear what Korey is saying , but let's be real. Korey is not looking at Dwayne Johnson (Who eats unhealthy portions of food, abuses steroids and has had MULTIPLE surgeries to repair his body) and thinking "Damn dude, you're unhealthy!" You can be unhealthy at any weight and Korey seems to succinctly/solely associate obesity as the only way to be unhealthy in relation to the body positivity movement. Hell, Halle Berry has been diabetic for decades but most ppl see that as a fat person's illness
Nobody has a campaign telling me roid use is healthy. In fact influencers are so scared of it coming out they are on tren they will take to the grave . Yet they are trying to sell obesity as healthy
I agree with Martin as well; it seems to me as if Korey keeps contradicting himself every time Martin has an objection or observation to avoid sounding judgmental. It is a very slippery slope so if you’re not ready for the backlash maybe avoid the topic altogether?
Not to mention if people are old enough to remember the '90s people were perfectly okay with women starving themselves to death to be aesthetically pleasing to be a size zero was considered hot then and people weren't talking about how unhealthy these attractive girls were by societal standards. People smoke drink take drugs don't take care of their bodies but when it comes to being overweight it's considered the highest of crimes.
Martin is making a good point be where is the line? Even culturally and ethnic people have different body shapes that are tendencies. For example in the medical world Caucasian bodies are considered standard. A black body which is usually bigger in structure and curvier may be considered unhealthy inherently. Or an Asian person being "underweight" or look at some Samoan bodies. The point I'm trying to make is how do you determine which is too big? Sure we can agree 600 lbs if you can't move from you bed is bad. But I'm a size 16 to my doctor I'm obese, in Asia I'd be considered huge...and among most other Black people I'm considered slimmer...all I'm saying is what is the standard and who can determine that? It's bullying at some point bc it's just like why is it considered the worst kind of unhealthy, bc women are made to think they have to be whatever society says is beautiful everyday by any means necessary. People aren't fat just bc of overheating...it is a complex nuanced topic.
Remember that Lizzo has active lawsuits filed against her, accusing her of creating a hostile work environment and encouraging misconduct during her 2022 Special Tour.
How would you feel if someone brought up all of your past mistakes, You wouldn't be so quick to get on that high horse of yours. Remember everybody is human even you.
@@JoeySkellington17 Hey idiot, maybe read next time. Never said anything about Korey or Martin, just bringing up the fact that she has lawsuits against her.
There's body positivity and then there's body BS-ing yourself with a lie like healthy at any size. And that's a difference that needs to be made very clear. I think the over all goal of body positivity should be to embrace the healthy version of your own body and re-enforce the healthy habits to maintain it at best you can. That looks and feels very different person to person and its often very hard for people find what that means for themselves because there's a lot working against people in that regard.
If I was a celebrity that South Park dissed, I would beg them to be a guest star on one episode and lean into the gag. Lizzo could use a rebrand right now anyway.
As a longtime fat person, I think Korey is taking this too seriously. I can only speak for myself, but I feel good when I lose weight, but I also have found women Lizzo's shape is attractive. People being rotten to other people is . . . people. People misinterpreting things goes back to forever.
I've struggled with my weight for a long time. I've managed to lose some weight (I've gone from 275 to about 230), but I still struggle with using food to treat my depression. I don't need anybody to tell me that I shouldn't worry about it and that my big old gut is beautiful, but I don't need anybody pointing out that I'm fat. Trust me, I know
I struggle with my weight a long time also. Most of my life.I weighed 125 pounds. For years, I couldn't eat in front of people. Not without getting some type of skinny joke or how much I need to eat or when am I ever going to gain weight, etc. I wear shorts.I get chicken leg jokes, and I take my shirt off.I get bird jokes. I work out.I have a six pack, but it doesn't matter that I'm in shape.... I'm not big enough. From my perspective, body positivity has never existed....maybe when they promote skinny people from taking steroids, and ? Supplements. I don't. Need people telling me I'm skinny either, but I also don't need everyone shoving stuff in front of my face.
@@nebriancoleman4704 I've dealt with the negative comments at my work as well, one coworker always gave me shit for my weight, suggesting I need to eat more, at first I was naïve and laughed it off, thinking back I was such a fool because by doing that he thinks his behavior is acceptable when it is not. I should've been honest or at least ignored him. Lately that is all I have been doing, I don't respond to him and I try to avoid him, anytime he sees me its like he feels he has to say something in a mocking manner. Now that I've turned 30 so many things have been running through my mind, one of them being that I am slowly done with peoples shit.
Rob McElhenny from It's Alawys Sunny in Philadelphia had a great point on the cost of living healthy. He basically joked, "it's easy to lose weight. All you need is thousands of dollars, and access to personal trainers". 😂
Didn't Lizzo get cancelled a couple of months ago for fat shaming her backup dancers and sexually assaulting someone with a banana? Or is society just going to sweep that under the rug?
@@Amanda-kd1zr gurl stop playing. We know when they are refering to precios mama it's disdain not only for plus size but black plus size black women. Miss me with your ignorance.
Body positivity applies to other things. Skinny people, short people, darker skin, or pale. Telling someone that they are unhealthy unwarranted is bullying. That isn't genuine concern.
@@princeparker8797 And when it’s a family member or child who is actively harming themselves with an eating disorder, then what? Say nothing and watch them die instead of having an intervention like we do for other addictions? I used to be a teacher and had multiple students die from diabetes, heart attack, and other things because their parents and extended family refused to police their weight. So many children died in my state over the “mind your own business “ mentality, the cost of their medical bills being passed on to everyone else needing medical care at hospitals, that schools started a mandatory BMI measurement program because despite what most think the majority of overweight and obese people don’t realize they or their kids are overweight or obese. When schools started it we began by BMI measuring teachers first. Almost everyone was shocked that all of us teachers were at least overweight and over half were obese, with a couple absolutely astounded they were morbidly obese. I knew I was a bit heavy but had no clue I was boarder line morbidly obese. BMI is a garbage system but often people have to be told their health is in danger by loved ones, or schools, because Americans don’t know what a healthy weight looks like on a scale.
The thing is, some people can't help themselves when it comes to pointing out someone else's flaws. How do YOU know what health problems they have? I became diabetic at 168 pounds but have seen several 600 pound people on the show who were only pre-diabetic and it shocks me every time the doctor says those people don't have diabetes.
lmao Martin really makin' Korey sweat this episode, but rightfully so. Korey stammering like crazy trying to make sense of whatever nonsense he was saying lol
They didn't fat shame Lizzo. They made fun of her (and women like her's) mentality that you can be healthy and happy at any size. They are just in denial. A diet would make them alot happier in the long run
You can be happy doing anything regardless of whether it's good for you. You can be happy eating blood it would still be bad for you regardless. You can be happy being massively over weight but it's bad for you regardless.
Lies sold by people selling gym membership, social media influencers aiming to make a buck. I know many people who can run marathons and half miles who are larger as well as people who are so called healthy weight who cannot even run a half mile! Fat is not bad at all - only morbidly obese and anorexic are. Lizzo is healthier than the average person, try dancing and singing for 2 hours straight. Anyhoo. Wasting my words on dumb brainwashed people.
@@boomstickcritique902And for people who like to say mind your own business people sure do love to chime in when people are living their life to there terms.
I like Korey but dude is so fake and always trying to play both sides. He wants to come off as some noble woke warrior but that the same time have the freedom to behave whatever way he wants. Virtue signaling. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
I feel like the problem is that we keep using the term fat shaming instead of calling it bullying. People Don't understand the difference between being bullied and being told hey your weight is putting yourself in harm way
Fat shaming as far as a form of bullying is very real. We can definitely counter bullying someone because they are fat, overweight, obese etc. while also acknowledging that being in any of these categories bad for your health in the long term. I hate how so many folks act like you have to pick one of these or the other when they are actually not contradictory positions to hold at the same time.
This was such a disappointing segment, but thankfully Martin was there to salvage it. How does come to the conclusion Lizzo was upset in her response when she was clearly shocked, excited and took it well. It’s like Korey didn’t watch the Lizzo reaction video before hand and entered with preconceived notions that she was upset and just stuck to his guns.
I will never understand why people care so much about someone else’s size. I was obese for a long time and I lost the weight when I wanted to, but the amount of “I’m worried about you. You should lose some weight” comments irritated me. After you told me that, I would say in my mind “mofo worry about your own ass”. And no one is really that worried about your health or weight, they just want to feel good about themselves by saying it. You’re not helping, you’re just being nosy and annoying.
Lol yeah Martin is right. You guys are reading into that all wrong. She definitely wasn't being defensive and was a good sport about it. But of course Charles Barkley and Martin Sheen over there felt the black lady was having an self-righteous attitude problem lol
Diabetes and hypertension, all kinds of heart issues run in my family, overweight or fit. Regardless of our sizes, the men and women, it's definitely genetics and it's inevitable I really appreciate this discussion from you guys. And the special was hilarious lol
@Gus_Magnusyeah but not always. Like certain health issues run in my family that I inherited despite working out frequently and eating right. I think people act like diet and exercise is a magical panacea that’ll prevent illness. It helps but sometimes you just get the bad end of the stick genetically. Also I really think people forget that type 1 diabetes exist. No amount of working out will make that go away.
@@nootnewt9323It is literally the laws of physics. Have you ever tried driving a car without fuel? Fat is potential energy so if you burn more than you take in you'll lose weight. You can't not be in a calorie deficit eating foods that don't have trans fat and saturated fat and not lose weight.
@Gus_Magnus That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Family history absolutely plays a factor, regardless of your physical health. Three of my cousins were/are athletes. Two of them both still teach High School PE and sports teams and both look physically in shape, while the other one maintains a physical lifestyle. All three have to deal with high blood pressure and hypertension. Hell, one of my cousins had high blood pressure while he was still competing in college athletics. This whole "willing sickness into existence" thing on your part is utter bullshit.
@nootnewt9323 genetic predispositions are only gross in like 5 percent of the population. The rest is all discipline, depression bad habits etc. But to say genetics is the biggest issue is a gross exaggeration
@Gus_MagnusMy family doesn't have a history of my kidney disease nor kidney failure, and yet my kidney disease was dormant until my late teens. Both my grandmas lived to their nineties. I grew up with a vegetarian sister and a mom who didn't cook or prepare red meat for us. When I would stay with my dad (who very much ate red meat) we ate a salad with every meal and I went to the doctor and dentist twice a year. To this day, I've never been overweight in my life, but because of my disease, I am in no way healthy and I have had the misfortune of watching people of all age groups, genders and races die or experience traumatic health decline while I spent a great deal of my adulthood in & out of hospitals or dialysis centers. If I had a dollar for every new patient that would either be admitted to a hospital ER or became a patient at dialysis center, exclaim that they "don't know how this happened" and they've been healthy they're whole life, and they exercise X amount of times a day, well I would be sitting rather pretty as a damn millionaire! I doubt you'll believe me, because I've seen way too many people go into full denial when it comes to illness and disabilities, but the idea that you can do everything "right" and come ahead, is an illusion. People with your attitude are in my experience, always the first ones to crack under pressure when their life changes overnight, and usually handle things the worst because they can't accept that a healthy existence isn't guaranteed just because you think you're doing everything "the right way."
Then you're an idiot, but you get political opinions from this shitty show. And no this isn't a defense of Lizzo. South Park is a show for people who think they are smart.
How is she encouraging people to eat fast food? Being big doesn't mean unhealthy and being skinny doesn't mean healthy, consult your doctor, not Lizzo. Also Lizzo lost tons of weight and posted videos of herself exercising on her social media.
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 How many big people do you see in hollywood? The few out there are always just the fat funny friend. They push the "do nothing, be unhealthy and hapoy" because they know we cant afford all the luxuries they have to live healty.
The thing here is most of the people pointing out Lizzo’s obesity is not doing it out of concern for her health. They are doing it to ridicule and humble her so they can feel better about themselves, and some do it because they find pleasure in ridiculing others. It’s usually people who were bullied and now they become the bully anonymously online.
Some, yes ,but i feel like most are voicing concearns about normalizing being unhealthy. Especially when its rich celebrities with tons of cash and healthier options telling poorer people who are force fed unhealthy food and lifestyles by those same rich elites. "Ozempic is for rich people, and poor people have Lizzo" explains it perfectly. Media WANTS us fat, lazy, and stupid, and Lizzo is that perfet mascot
That's a fair point and probably true for many but there's also the fact that sh*tty rude people get back what they give She really seems to have an attitude problem so I don't feel bad insulting her It's not because she's black or fat Rhonda Rousey was exactly the same,awful personality and she copped sooooo much hate for that
Martin is spot on. Corey completely missed the mark on this topic. Another thing is that the term "Body Positivity" does not just refer to being overweight. Corey have you ever heard of Body dysmorphic disorder?
@@joedent3323 Not the sweet pie if that's what your asking? More like sweets like Oreo, Ice-Cream, etc... Plus drinks like Coca-Cola that contributes to gaining more weight is an addictive drug for me.
Fun fact the creators of South park were brain dead climate change deniers till like 2018, the entire man bear pig joke was just them shitting on people who thought climate change was real till they finally believed it is real but then said we can't do anything about it so don't even try cause caring or trying to actually fix anything doesnt matter to them
I actually agree with Korey. I don’t get why Martin kept misrepresenting Korey’s comments about obese people as if Korey was talking about every person in the world from skinny to obese when that clearly wasn’t his argument. Just because you are obese doesn’t mean you have to stay obese, body positivity doesn’t mean giving into unhealthy habits out of comfort
The old adage "mind your business" applies to bodies. Unless you are responsible for a body, then do not comment on it unless specifically asked to do so. 🤷
accepting obesity is not loving yourself. it's an excuse to ignore a problem. I've been obese and I was not healthy or happy with it. I slowly went from 260 lbs down to 170 lbs and it was the best thing I ever did. nothing but good came from dropping that weight. no more back and knee pains, no high blood pressure as well as not having to carry around all that extra weight.
Martin had it correct. South Park was using Lizzo in a positive light, the alternative to awful weight loss pills, and Lizzo saw that and reacted positively to the show.
Even if you are offended at being targeted by SP the very last thing you should do is try and raise a fuss about it. Streisand effect literally originated with SP.
I think Corey is wrong here about "body positivity". You CANNOT approach a stranger and say "you are fat", "you are sick", or anything like that. I look at myself in the mirror every day, I know that I am fat. I think it is up to the people who love you and have a way of saying this. Now, we definitely cannot glamorize obesity, which is a problem in today's society. Being obese is not healthy, and that is a fact. However, telling fat people that they are also beautiful, I think is totally valid! Anyway... That's what I think. Cheers from a fat fuck in Brazil!
When a celeb gets accused of a crime, Korey typically says lets wait until we get all the facts to say they did it but all of a sudden with Lizzo she's the chick who's abused her dancers . What happened to waiting for the facts 🤔
Korey been doing a lot of yapping on topics he has limited knowledge on lately. Mans openly admits to having not seen the episode, doesn't know the details of her case, hasn't been engaged with her content (even at the surface level), and yet, has the audacity to say, "I think most people missed the message." Love DT, but it's annoying to listen to the host have such strong opinions with such limited knowledge.
@@JesusSanchez-ql6zr Now imagine how much funnier it would be if the person running the conversation AND wanted to have a strong opinion about it had AT LEAST seen the content he's speaking on. Just wish he was a little more informed sometimes, is all.
Oh man when Adele lost weight or when Rebel Wilson lost weight there was a massive backlash because apparently they were faces of this body positivity but they've given in to the slim people or some shit like that
Yeah!They made it a point not to mention that!! I was thinking the same thing but I forgot Rebel Wilson's name..Everybody wants to be part of a marginalized group so that they can finger-wag at everyone else for nothing
It’s not that talking to people about being overweight or obese it’s the way you do it because just saying you are concerned doesn’t help actually do something try to get your friends more active
Speaking of this South Park Special, it had me dying laughing when Butters was hanging out the side of the truck, and another thing, it had be just sheer coincidence that this came out the same weekend as 'Furiosa' bc the climax involves one giant car chase.
I know I’m way late but I agree with Martin! She didn’t come off upset, she came off as laughing it off. And body positivity is not just telling people it’s okay to be big, it goes beyond that. Martin I applaud you for getting your point across!
🤔Sooo this is a review on a reaction of a video of a show that he didn’t watch at the time of making this video🤣 it like reading a RUclips upload title and leaving a comment with out watching the video 😂
The weight discussion in the USA is on another level than in the rest of the world, because the US combines the most unhealthy food with very bad healthcare.
If the fast food industry (one of the biggest in America) wasn't making alot of money off of obesity,big pharma will..And shopping to eat healthy is a m'fer too..Just try to shop at a Healthy Foods grocery store!! I DARE SOMEBODY!! The industry makes it expensive, but not impossible, to eat healthy.
Lizzo reacted to something that was tame. South Park could've easily used the accusations as material and all the times she's done stupid stuff in public (putting her bare ass on a public seat at a basketball game)
As a fat woman. I am body positive because I cannot make an instant changes to my body, I have pcos and insulin resistance which makes weight gain difficult to maintain and I’ve been on meds. Before my diagnosis I was told I was fat by doctors my entire teenage years when I wasn’t even remotely overweight. I was athletic and musclar but was told to lose 20-30 lbs every doctor visit. My diet was restricted and I was made to work out more than 5 hours a day. That has caused to too binge eat in secret and fast. Overall it ruined my relationship with food and I began to gain weight after my grandmother died and we moved to another state. Now I’m actually obese. I accept how I look and have gotten to a point in my life where I genuinely do not care what people think. I wear what I wear and I look how I look, whether folks like it or not. I also accept that I need to lose weight to be healthy, however It’s not anyone else’s business or concern what my health issues are, because if I were skinny and a pothead no one would care about my “health.” I know that I am fat and I am getting the help I need from medical professionals, I don’t need or like being constantly reminded of something that I am already aware of. So many folks think they are original. As a fat person, I’ve probably been told about 300 or times that I’m fat and I need to lose weight because it’s “unhealthy.” People who feel the need to humble me, don’t see me starving myself for weeks, losing and gaining 20-50 pounds over and over again, or being medically neglected. They don’t care if I have ED, if I am losing weight in a healthy way, if I lost an ovary, or if I made any progress, they just hate that I’m big and there’s nothing else to it. These folks don’t give a damn if I live or die. I am beautiful and based on how men treat me, I know that I’m very attractive despite being obese. Without recognizing that beauty, I would never have the confidence to go to the gym, hop in the pool, roll into a skating rink, or jog around the neighborhood. When I was a teenage girl being misdiagnosed with being borderline overweight, I was embarrassed to do any physical activity in public bc I was being told I was fat by the people closest to me while my peers never saw me as such. As a result my self esteem dropped, my motivation for physical activity decreased and my motivation to binge increased more.
Dude who did supersize me doc passed away this wknd. I didnt see the special but that wouldve been carthartic for him, esp if they mentioned him as he was a pioneer in calling out the hypocrisy of obesity and lifestyle in this country.
I like what Nicole Byer said, "Everyone has fat, some just have more than others." Fat doesnt automatically mean "obese" and "unhealthy". Skinny doesn't automatically make you healthy and more beautiful than fat people. Bodies are bodies and everyone has the right to love themselves for themsleves. And nobody comes up to you randomly saying, "oh man, you're a good looking person despite you being thinner. I'm concerned with your health." So what makes you think you have a right to go up to fat people who DID NOT ASK YOU A DAMN THING and give your opinion about your false worry? Also, the scale at which we judge health is still vastly outdated in that we compare everything to the anatomy of adult white males. Lastly, that clip of Lizzo's reaction did come off a bit defensive, but I hadn't seen the whole video so I can't read it for sure without the entire context. Yall should listen to Trevor Noah's podcast where they he actually brings in an expert who has studied Ozempic and they discuss more so the social aspects, past and present, surrounding weight within America and compared to other countries.
Take it from Jennifer Lopez. If you let known that a South Park parody bothers you, you'll never hear the end of it.
Or Barbara Streisand.
Kanye
@@mttylerdurden9or Kanye😂
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True there definitely gonna circle the block on her
Rule of thumb: if you’re a big celebrity, you’re almost automatically a target for Trey Park and Matt Stone.
Until they find out some dirt on them like they did the Diddler. don't worry, it's coming.
*big celebrity white done stupid shit.
I know a Will Smith/Jada/Jaylen special is around the corner.
Yep, and the worst approach you can take if they do roast you is to make a public fuss about it.
Best to get it over with without a fuss or they will keep going for you
Emphasis on "big"
ROFL "So rich people get Ozempic, poor people get Body Positivity??"
Two thirds of America are overweight.
Ozempic deflates the booty😊
I can break it down, Korey. I can look good in an outfit AND still acknowledge I need to lose weight. Both of those can be true. I don’t need anyone to tell me to lose weight. It’s not like I don’t have a mirror. I just don’t want to hate myself or hide myself because I’m fat. Even if some people think I should.
I agree.
This is literally what body positivity is, it's annoying how it gets misrepresented and co-opted, you can love yourself and want to improve your health.
I agree with Martin on this one. As someone who used to be fat, people telling me about my weight did not help. Like Martin said, I already knew I was fat. Part of that was because I had a thyroid issue that slowed my metabolism. You never know what someone is going through or what reason they have for being overweight. I'm not a doctor, so I don't feel like it's my place to give anyone unsolicited health advice.
Exactly! Perfectly stated.
How many Thryoids had you eaten, exactly?
I agree with you and Martin but I also don't think that is what Corey was saying. Yes people already know so there is no point in telling them but it's also unhealthy mentally for you to tell that person you are fine the way you are when they are clearly unhealthy. That can take away the incentive to lose weight and create delusion. Yes in your case you had thyroid issues so it's tougher but in any situation there are outliers. I think Corey is trying to bring attention to that other side of people that don't have anything like a thyroid issue that get delusional and lose incentive to become healthier because they start to believe it is ok
If you don't want to give advice that's fine
I really hate it when people say, I am not a this, so I cannot speak about that.
This appeal to authority fallacy is really annoying, if you don't know enough on a topic and you don't want to speak on it, that is fine.
But it's hypocrisy to have a standard, where you must be an expert on a topic, before you can give your opinion on something, no body follows that rule of thumb, not even the person that says it, you just don't want to speak on this issue
Also, all this authorities are human, then can be wrong, and motivated by bad reasons to lie.
Humans also have a vast amount of information, to do some basic research on issues
A big problem in the world is people just defere thier thinking to experts, they use it as an excuse not to think or to hide behind an opinion (because an expert said so)
Martin rubbed his belly and said "we can fight bout it!" 😂😂😂
Martin almost went off!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm with Martin. There are slim people who look healthy and have genetic factors that make them not as healthy as you think. Halle Berry has diabetes, Chadwick Boseman died of cancer even though he exercised and lived a healthy lifestyle. The super-sized me guy just died recently. I'm not saying obesity isn't a problem. It's just easier to judge or put down someone who is big because you can see what they're dealing with or assume what's the problem in our society. Many times, it's genetic factors as well. Plus, there is a lot of unhealthy food out there, and you have to eat to survive. Unlike someone just having a bad habit like smoking, alcohol or drugs, even though the same pleasure part of the brain affects all of it. Things affect people differently. Sorry about my long reply!😊
@@damonpatterson8293I agree 100%. The thing is people should love themselves regardless and I’m not saying that means stay unhealthy but you’re unlikely to stick to healthy habits if you put yourself down or don’t love yourself on the journey. People just get burnt out that way imo. Everyone is worthy of self love and part of that is also self improvement. And self improvement isn’t likely if you don’t think you’re worth it
@@damonpatterson8293
super size guy was a raging alcoholic, not healthy at all
😂😂😂😅😅
Me and my GF were cryyyiiiiing laughing when this part of the episode came up. South Park has a been evolving for 30 years….God bless those guys 😂
Watch her try to sue southpark.😂
@@nehemiahpouncey3607which will fail
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 So we're writing fanfiction and laughing 😂
Many have tried to sue and failed.
Those guys had me laughing from when I was a kid to now, bless them foreal
There's two types of people. Those who embrace their South Park parodies and those who cry about it on social media. Choose wisely.
The mad max chase scene at the end was insane but the lizzo jokes, chef’s kiss. Rich ppl get ozempic but poor ppl get body positivity had me dying.
It was a dig on Lizzo and the American healthcare system at the same time. I couldn't breathe 😂
Another problem with "Body positivity" is that it only applies to women. How many male plus sized models are there compared to female plus sized models? When an overweight women goes to the beach in a bikini she's praised as beautiful but when an overweight guy goes to the beach shirtless he gets made fun of.
There are many double standards where men are treated far worse.
In our society men's looks aren't as important as women's looks. That's where it starts. So making fun of a man's looks isn't the same as a woman's. It's a double standard man smh
@@LG4K4K I'm just saying this is the way it is. I never said I agree with it but doesn't matter what I think. It's the way it is. I don't embrace it I simply realize it
Because men bully each other more for it. Men don't know how to uplift each other bc they expect women to do it for them.
Totally agree, it's okay to show a heavyset woman in a big lingerie ad, but where's the fat guy in his tightly whities? If you point that out to the women who praise the "Body positive" ads, they'll go "Because no one wants to see that" and then I say "Now you know how I feel when I see these ads" and walk away. 😂
She don't seem that upset
Thank you Martin! Obesity, Alcoholism, and every other over indulgence is a problem! Everything in moderation.
Didn’t we cancel Lizzo for mistreatment of her backup dancers?
No, people to Lizzo side
@@NightmareRose86nah
@@NightmareRose86 what?
Alleged...seems like there are quite a lot of issues with the accusations. Cancelation should occur after all the evidence is available.
Maybe, you did?? Lizzo is ✨🏆✨
Korey should really let Martin host the show sometime. Martin is the one with the most sense
Indeed. I still can't get the over the fact that Martin once told Korey on the show that he's secure in his manhood to go clothes shopping with him.
Martin making Korey look like a insecure manchild was enjoyable to watch. I'll never forget that as long as I live.
Body positivity doesn't promote people to just be fat man like wtf. Martin is the only one with some sense. At the end of the day nobody but you and your doctor should be talking about your health. Loved the South Park episode though!
I agree. I have no idea what Korey was even talking about towards the end lol. Martin was actually speaking wise
Martin was keeping it 💯
❤
Martin is a real one.
Thing is there are lower BMI people who are in ill health.
I agree with Martin. I hear what Korey is saying , but let's be real. Korey is not looking at Dwayne Johnson (Who eats unhealthy portions of food, abuses steroids and has had MULTIPLE surgeries to repair his body) and thinking "Damn dude, you're unhealthy!" You can be unhealthy at any weight and Korey seems to succinctly/solely associate obesity as the only way to be unhealthy in relation to the body positivity movement. Hell, Halle Berry has been diabetic for decades but most ppl see that as a fat person's illness
Nobody has a campaign telling me roid use is healthy. In fact influencers are so scared of it coming out they are on tren they will take to the grave . Yet they are trying to sell obesity as healthy
There are two types of diabetes. In most cases it IS a fat person’s disease…
I agree with Martin as well; it seems to me as if Korey keeps contradicting himself every time Martin has an objection or observation to avoid sounding judgmental. It is a very slippery slope so if you’re not ready for the backlash maybe avoid the topic altogether?
Not to mention if people are old enough to remember the '90s people were perfectly okay with women starving themselves to death to be aesthetically pleasing to be a size zero was considered hot then and people weren't talking about how unhealthy these attractive girls were by societal standards. People smoke drink take drugs don't take care of their bodies but when it comes to being overweight it's considered the highest of crimes.
Martin is making a good point be where is the line? Even culturally and ethnic people have different body shapes that are tendencies. For example in the medical world Caucasian bodies are considered standard. A black body which is usually bigger in structure and curvier may be considered unhealthy inherently. Or an Asian person being "underweight" or look at some Samoan bodies. The point I'm trying to make is how do you determine which is too big? Sure we can agree 600 lbs if you can't move from you bed is bad. But I'm a size 16 to my doctor I'm obese, in Asia I'd be considered huge...and among most other Black people I'm considered slimmer...all I'm saying is what is the standard and who can determine that? It's bullying at some point bc it's just like why is it considered the worst kind of unhealthy, bc women are made to think they have to be whatever society says is beautiful everyday by any means necessary. People aren't fat just bc of overheating...it is a complex nuanced topic.
Damn, Martin is not having Korey’s explanation here. 😅 Martin knows Korey is talking nonsense this time.
Yeah, I was with Martin too. Korey’s explanation was making no sense.
😂
Korey is utterly RIGHT ‼️
@@trika91 I guess you’re on that body positivity hike aren’t you?
@@trika91he didn’t even watch the South Park Episode 🤣
Remember that Lizzo has active lawsuits filed against her, accusing her of creating a hostile work environment and encouraging misconduct during her 2022 Special Tour.
How would you feel if someone brought up all of your past mistakes, You wouldn't be so quick to get on that high horse of yours. Remember everybody is human even you.
Key word: Accused
You people aren’t even watching the video… They talk about that right in the beginning of this. Fool. 😅
@@JoeySkellington17 Hey idiot, maybe read next time. Never said anything about Korey or Martin, just bringing up the fact that she has lawsuits against her.
@@TheQuietStorm630 -Ted Bundy
I don't think Korey understands the message of "body positivety".
Even skimmy people can have body dismorphea.
He most certainly does not. Martin kind of got him straight though. Go Martin!!
There's body positivity and then there's body BS-ing yourself with a lie like healthy at any size. And that's a difference that needs to be made very clear.
I think the over all goal of body positivity should be to embrace the healthy version of your own body and re-enforce the healthy habits to maintain it at best you can. That looks and feels very different person to person and its often very hard for people find what that means for themselves because there's a lot working against people in that regard.
Nobody on that panel appears to be skinny. HaHa
If I was a celebrity that South Park dissed, I would beg them to be a guest star on one episode and lean into the gag. Lizzo could use a rebrand right now anyway.
Martin is thinking like a logical person when the message is directed at the illogical extreme thinkers. You aren’t suppose to relate to it.
He always has. I may not agree with everything Martin says, but there are times where he comes out as the bigger man than Korey ever will be.
As a longtime fat person, I think Korey is taking this too seriously. I can only speak for myself, but I feel good when I lose weight, but I also have found women Lizzo's shape is attractive. People being rotten to other people is . . . people. People misinterpreting things goes back to forever.
Martin was spot on with everything he said.
I've struggled with my weight for a long time. I've managed to lose some weight (I've gone from 275 to about 230), but I still struggle with using food to treat my depression. I don't need anybody to tell me that I shouldn't worry about it and that my big old gut is beautiful, but I don't need anybody pointing out that I'm fat. Trust me, I know
I struggle with my weight a long time also. Most of my life.I weighed 125 pounds. For years, I couldn't eat in front of people. Not without getting some type of skinny joke or how much I need to eat or when am I ever going to gain weight, etc. I wear shorts.I get chicken leg jokes, and I take my shirt off.I get bird jokes. I work out.I have a six pack, but it doesn't matter that I'm in shape.... I'm not big enough. From my perspective, body positivity has never existed....maybe when they promote skinny people from taking steroids, and ? Supplements. I don't.
Need people telling me I'm skinny either, but I also don't need everyone shoving stuff in front of my face.
NGL I have lost a Few Pounds Myself, I Never worked out yet TBH, I Wanna get Muscles soon.
Just turn to drugs. Trust me, I know.
(This is a joke. Please don't do that.)
@@nebriancoleman4704 I've dealt with the negative comments at my work as well, one coworker always gave me shit for my weight, suggesting I need to eat more, at first I was naïve and laughed it off, thinking back I was such a fool because by doing that he thinks his behavior is acceptable when it is not. I should've been honest or at least ignored him. Lately that is all I have been doing, I don't respond to him and I try to avoid him, anytime he sees me its like he feels he has to say something in a mocking manner. Now that I've turned 30 so many things have been running through my mind, one of them being that I am slowly done with peoples shit.
Well said
Rob McElhenny from It's Alawys Sunny in Philadelphia had a great point on the cost of living healthy. He basically joked, "it's easy to lose weight. All you need is thousands of dollars, and access to personal trainers". 😂
Not a great point at all
Didn't Lizzo get cancelled a couple of months ago for fat shaming her backup dancers and sexually assaulting someone with a banana? Or is society just going to sweep that under the rug?
You do what you want. Stop looking for group approval in a comments section - o er accusations 😭
@@oaktree1626lmao
It's already been swept under the rug as soon as news broke out. Women very rarely get canceled unless it's some Epstein level type of shit.
Cancel Culture is over. Doesn't work.
I remember
Cory please
Isten to Martin on the topic of obesity. You missed the mark
Exactly
"Out here looking like Precious mama" I just spat out my damn food! 😂😂😂
The fatphobia is pathetic.
@@dandredurand8262he was referring to the tired look and messy hair but ok go off.
@@Amanda-kd1zr gurl stop playing. We know when they are refering to precios mama it's disdain not only for plus size but black plus size black women. Miss me with your ignorance.
@@dandredurand8262"fatphobia" lol
Body positivity applies to other things. Skinny people, short people, darker skin, or pale. Telling someone that they are unhealthy unwarranted is bullying. That isn't genuine concern.
So how should we say to that person who is overweight?
@@DannsProductions you could always just mind your own fucking business
@@princeparker8797 I wasn’t talking to you, was I?
@@princeparker8797 And when it’s a family member or child who is actively harming themselves with an eating disorder, then what? Say nothing and watch them die instead of having an intervention like we do for other addictions?
I used to be a teacher and had multiple students die from diabetes, heart attack, and other things because their parents and extended family refused to police their weight. So many children died in my state over the “mind your own business “ mentality, the cost of their medical bills being passed on to everyone else needing medical care at hospitals, that schools started a mandatory BMI measurement program because despite what most think the majority of overweight and obese people don’t realize they or their kids are overweight or obese.
When schools started it we began by BMI measuring teachers first. Almost everyone was shocked that all of us teachers were at least overweight and over half were obese, with a couple absolutely astounded they were morbidly obese. I knew I was a bit heavy but had no clue I was boarder line morbidly obese. BMI is a garbage system but often people have to be told their health is in danger by loved ones, or schools, because Americans don’t know what a healthy weight looks like on a scale.
@@princeparker8797Yeah people seem to have that problem lately.
That’s why we love South Park.
South Park will forever be legendary.
The thing is, some people can't help themselves when it comes to pointing out someone else's flaws. How do YOU know what health problems they have? I became diabetic at 168 pounds but have seen several 600 pound people on the show who were only pre-diabetic and it shocks me every time the doctor says those people don't have diabetes.
South Park is gold also lizzo said she won’t be on social media and yet she is on it
Because we are all addicted to this dumb shit.
Korey not understanding fatphobia in the year of our lord 2024 and Martin just doing his best
Well he is Gen-X. You expect people like him to be way behind the times.
In the year of what?! 😅
@@dicekolev5360 Looks like somebody is not well versed with the bible. Somebody tell this poor kid.
I mean South Park pokes fun at generally everybody. No one is safe.
lmao Martin really makin' Korey sweat this episode, but rightfully so. Korey stammering like crazy trying to make sense of whatever nonsense he was saying lol
They didn't fat shame Lizzo.
They made fun of her (and women like her's) mentality that you can be healthy and happy at any size. They are just in denial. A diet would make them alot happier in the long run
It's always the armchair psychologists that think they know someone better than themselves. Be quiet.😒
You can be happy at any size. Healthiness is another issue however.
You can be happy doing anything regardless of whether it's good for you. You can be happy eating blood it would still be bad for you regardless. You can be happy being massively over weight but it's bad for you regardless.
Lies sold by people selling gym membership, social media influencers aiming to make a buck. I know many people who can run marathons and half miles who are larger as well as people who are so called healthy weight who cannot even run a half mile! Fat is not bad at all - only morbidly obese and anorexic are. Lizzo is healthier than the average person, try dancing and singing for 2 hours straight. Anyhoo. Wasting my words on dumb brainwashed people.
@@boomstickcritique902And for people who like to say mind your own business people sure do love to chime in when people are living their life to there terms.
I find it funny that Korey's being preachy about body sensitivity when he started this same video joking about Lizzo being Precious' mother
I like Korey but dude is so fake and always trying to play both sides. He wants to come off as some noble woke warrior but that the same time have the freedom to behave whatever way he wants. Virtue signaling. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
I feel like the problem is that we keep using the term fat shaming instead of calling it bullying. People Don't understand the difference between being bullied and being told hey your weight is putting yourself in harm way
Fat shaming as far as a form of bullying is very real. We can definitely counter bullying someone because they are fat, overweight, obese etc. while also acknowledging that being in any of these categories bad for your health in the long term. I hate how so many folks act like you have to pick one of these or the other when they are actually not contradictory positions to hold at the same time.
Because people act like shame is some inherently bad thing. Some of my greatest accomplishments were born out of shame.
@@printezstromanSeek help.
@@nomdeguerre247 grow up. if you had more shame it would hep you.
No one needs to tell anyone that their obese weight is unhealthy. THEY KNOW ALREADY.
This was such a disappointing segment, but thankfully Martin was there to salvage it. How does come to the conclusion Lizzo was upset in her response when she was clearly shocked, excited and took it well. It’s like Korey didn’t watch the Lizzo reaction video before hand and entered with preconceived notions that she was upset and just stuck to his guns.
Reminds me of the meme
“When a girl says I feel like lizzo vs when you tell them you look like lizzo” lol
Haha, insults are so funny
@@nomdeguerre247 very much when deserved
i think Corey missed this mark on this conversation. If you’re unhealthy, you should be body negative? how would that be helpful?
If ur unhealthy u should realize u have a problem….korey is right
Body realistic sounds good I think.
@@SmeagolTheGreat what does that mean though?
I will never understand why people care so much about someone else’s size. I was obese for a long time and I lost the weight when I wanted to, but the amount of “I’m worried about you. You should lose some weight” comments irritated me. After you told me that, I would say in my mind “mofo worry about your own ass”. And no one is really that worried about your health or weight, they just want to feel good about themselves by saying it. You’re not helping, you’re just being nosy and annoying.
Lol yeah Martin is right. You guys are reading into that all wrong. She definitely wasn't being defensive and was a good sport about it.
But of course Charles Barkley and Martin Sheen over there felt the black lady was having an self-righteous attitude problem lol
5:45 Korey & Martin’s genuine reaction to eating bananas out of peoples A**H*les had me rolling lol
i dont think lizzo was being defensive about this
Diabetes and hypertension, all kinds of heart issues run in my family, overweight or fit. Regardless of our sizes, the men and women, it's definitely genetics and it's inevitable
I really appreciate this discussion from you guys. And the special was hilarious lol
@Gus_Magnusyeah but not always. Like certain health issues run in my family that I inherited despite working out frequently and eating right. I think people act like diet and exercise is a magical panacea that’ll prevent illness. It helps but sometimes you just get the bad end of the stick genetically.
Also I really think people forget that type 1 diabetes exist. No amount of working out will make that go away.
@@nootnewt9323It is literally the laws of physics. Have you ever tried driving a car without fuel? Fat is potential energy so if you burn more than you take in you'll lose weight. You can't not be in a calorie deficit eating foods that don't have trans fat and saturated fat and not lose weight.
@Gus_Magnus That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Family history absolutely plays a factor, regardless of your physical health. Three of my cousins were/are athletes. Two of them both still teach High School PE and sports teams and both look physically in shape, while the other one maintains a physical lifestyle. All three have to deal with high blood pressure and hypertension. Hell, one of my cousins had high blood pressure while he was still competing in college athletics. This whole "willing sickness into existence" thing on your part is utter bullshit.
@nootnewt9323 genetic predispositions are only gross in like 5 percent of the population. The rest is all discipline, depression bad habits etc. But to say genetics is the biggest issue is a gross exaggeration
@Gus_MagnusMy family doesn't have a history of my kidney disease nor kidney failure, and yet my kidney disease was dormant until my late teens. Both my grandmas lived to their nineties. I grew up with a vegetarian sister and a mom who didn't cook or prepare red meat for us. When I would stay with my dad (who very much ate red meat) we ate a salad with every meal and I went to the doctor and dentist twice a year. To this day, I've never been overweight in my life, but because of my disease, I am in no way healthy and I have had the misfortune of watching people of all age groups, genders and races die or experience traumatic health decline while I spent a great deal of my adulthood in & out of hospitals or dialysis centers. If I had a dollar for every new patient that would either be admitted to a hospital ER or became a patient at dialysis center, exclaim that they "don't know how this happened" and they've been healthy they're whole life, and they exercise X amount of times a day, well I would be sitting rather pretty as a damn millionaire! I doubt you'll believe me, because I've seen way too many people go into full denial when it comes to illness and disabilities, but the idea that you can do everything "right" and come ahead, is an illusion. People with your attitude are in my experience, always the first ones to crack under pressure when their life changes overnight, and usually handle things the worst because they can't accept that a healthy existence isn't guaranteed just because you think you're doing everything "the right way."
Should be an honor to be on south park lol
Honestly This episode made me think maybe Lizzo really is a plant by Corpos to encourage people to eat fast food
Well her music sucks so you're probably right😂
Then you're an idiot, but you get political opinions from this shitty show. And no this isn't a defense of Lizzo.
South Park is a show for people who think they are smart.
1000%
How is she encouraging people to eat fast food? Being big doesn't mean unhealthy and being skinny doesn't mean healthy, consult your doctor, not Lizzo. Also Lizzo lost tons of weight and posted videos of herself exercising on her social media.
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 How many big people do you see in hollywood? The few out there are always just the fat funny friend. They push the "do nothing, be unhealthy and hapoy" because they know we cant afford all the luxuries they have to live healty.
Thank god for Martin 🙏🏿
😂
The thing here is most of the people pointing out Lizzo’s obesity is not doing it out of concern for her health. They are doing it to ridicule and humble her so they can feel better about themselves, and some do it because they find pleasure in ridiculing others. It’s usually people who were bullied and now they become the bully anonymously online.
Some, yes ,but i feel like most are voicing concearns about normalizing being unhealthy. Especially when its rich celebrities with tons of cash and healthier options telling poorer people who are force fed unhealthy food and lifestyles by those same rich elites. "Ozempic is for rich people, and poor people have Lizzo" explains it perfectly. Media WANTS us fat, lazy, and stupid, and Lizzo is that perfet mascot
That's a fair point and probably true for many but there's also the fact that sh*tty rude people get back what they give
She really seems to have an attitude problem so I don't feel bad insulting her
It's not because she's black or fat
Rhonda Rousey was exactly the same,awful personality and she copped sooooo much hate for that
"It"s a heavy subject"... classic.
Martin is spot on. Corey completely missed the mark on this topic. Another thing is that the term "Body Positivity" does not just refer to being overweight. Corey have you ever heard of Body dysmorphic disorder?
What did she expect? Matt and Trey have made fun of EVERYONE and EVERYTHING!!
Bro if you think south park is bad for just fat shaming you’ve never watched the show, soft people man 😂😂😂
I myself am a little overweight and as much as I want to lose some belly fat. There are always obstacles that stands in my way.
What obstacles?
@@JohnnyZenith Being there for everyone and having very little time for myself. Which causes me stress and desire to eat junk food.
Pie?
@@joedent3323 Not the sweet pie if that's what your asking? More like sweets like Oreo, Ice-Cream, etc... Plus drinks like Coca-Cola that contributes to gaining more weight is an addictive drug for me.
You do know you can be thin and unhealthy right? Equating being big to being unhealthy is contributing to the issue.
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Korey confusing me 😂
Korey is fat phobic
It's south park, you gotta take it on the chin and laugh. 🤷♂️
The issue is she has so many chins.
Fun fact the creators of South park were brain dead climate change deniers till like 2018, the entire man bear pig joke was just them shitting on people who thought climate change was real till they finally believed it is real but then said we can't do anything about it so don't even try cause caring or trying to actually fix anything doesnt matter to them
Have you been their target before?
@@nomdeguerre247 Probably hasn't affected society in bad enough way yet
You're thinking of Monica Lewinsky. She took It on the chin and laughed all the way to the bank.
I actually agree with Korey. I don’t get why Martin kept misrepresenting Korey’s comments about obese people as if Korey was talking about every person in the world from skinny to obese when that clearly wasn’t his argument. Just because you are obese doesn’t mean you have to stay obese, body positivity doesn’t mean giving into unhealthy habits out of comfort
Exactly….these people not getting it
Its a honor to get roasted on by south park
Didn’t think you could downgrade from Chris Herman but you managed to with Julian.
The old adage "mind your business" applies to bodies. Unless you are responsible for a body, then do not comment on it unless specifically asked to do so. 🤷
accepting obesity is not loving yourself. it's an excuse to ignore a problem. I've been obese and I was not healthy or happy with it. I slowly went from 260 lbs down to 170 lbs and it was the best thing I ever did. nothing but good came from dropping that weight. no more back and knee pains, no high blood pressure as well as not having to carry around all that extra weight.
Totally agreed. It's ignoring the problem. Well said and we'll done.
Martin had it correct. South Park was using Lizzo in a positive light, the alternative to awful weight loss pills, and Lizzo saw that and reacted positively to the show.
I agree with Korey in the fact i wouldn't have responded either. I got the impression too she was being defensive
Even if you are offended at being targeted by SP the very last thing you should do is try and raise a fuss about it. Streisand effect literally originated with SP.
Has Corey ever struggled with weight loss? I don't mean needing to lose a little weight, but actual obesity.
Let this not distract us from the fact that Tyler Perry's sistas is back for another season
Don't tell me Bruh is returning too. 🙄🤦🏾♀️
@@danavixen6274 ok. I won't tell
Yup!
I think Corey is wrong here about "body positivity". You CANNOT approach a stranger and say "you are fat", "you are sick", or anything like that. I look at myself in the mirror every day, I know that I am fat. I think it is up to the people who love you and have a way of saying this. Now, we definitely cannot glamorize obesity, which is a problem in today's society. Being obese is not healthy, and that is a fact. However, telling fat people that they are also beautiful, I think is totally valid! Anyway... That's what I think. Cheers from a fat fuck in Brazil!
When a celeb gets accused of a crime, Korey typically says lets wait until we get all the facts to say they did it but all of a sudden with Lizzo she's the chick who's abused her dancers . What happened to waiting for the facts 🤔
They wouldn't have said nothing if it was Adele.
This the earliest i ever been man but lizzo face to that joke was killin me😭😭😭
SAVAGE yet FUNNY. When Martin said, "Ooh. I would've waited." 😂
It's like those lazy reaction channels making those wild faces for thumbnails.
Happy Memorial Day
Korey: "Women are judge for their bodies more then men"
Men under 6ft and 6 inches: "bruh"
When South Park makes fun of you, you know you made it.
But if they get to you...thats yo ass
Korey been doing a lot of yapping on topics he has limited knowledge on lately. Mans openly admits to having not seen the episode, doesn't know the details of her case, hasn't been engaged with her content (even at the surface level), and yet, has the audacity to say, "I think most people missed the message." Love DT, but it's annoying to listen to the host have such strong opinions with such limited knowledge.
Who cares it's funny!
@@JesusSanchez-ql6zr Now imagine how much funnier it would be if the person running the conversation AND wanted to have a strong opinion about it had AT LEAST seen the content he's speaking on. Just wish he was a little more informed sometimes, is all.
South Park is really good at shedding light on a true subject
Oh man when Adele lost weight or when Rebel Wilson lost weight there was a massive backlash because apparently they were faces of this body positivity but they've given in to the slim people or some shit like that
I cant stand faeces of body positivity spreading themselves thin. I wont take faeces sitting down.
Yeah!They made it a point not to mention that!! I was thinking the same thing but I forgot Rebel Wilson's name..Everybody wants to be part of a marginalized group so that they can finger-wag at everyone else for nothing
If I recall, there were articles making it seem like her losing weight would be bad for other women.
It’s not that talking to people about being overweight or obese it’s the way you do it because just saying you are concerned doesn’t help actually do something try to get your friends more active
The joke is really a back handed compliment lmao. And that's what makes it perfect.
Plus certain medications can cause people to gain weight like crazy.
South Park comes for everyone 😂
White guy is pretty damn sassy when it comes down to Lizzo, relax guy you're going to hurt your wrist
I said he was annoying on the twitch chat, and my comment got deleted. This guy just does the absolute most.
The Bollywood song parody was so perfect. It was exactly how the songs were for action thriller bollywood movies in 2005-2010s
Speaking of this South Park Special, it had me dying laughing when Butters was hanging out the side of the truck, and another thing, it had be just sheer coincidence that this came out the same weekend as 'Furiosa' bc the climax involves one giant car chase.
I know I’m way late but I agree with Martin! She didn’t come off upset, she came off as laughing it off.
And body positivity is not just telling people it’s okay to be big, it goes beyond that. Martin I applaud you for getting your point across!
🤔Sooo this is a review on a reaction of a video of a show that he didn’t watch at the time of making this video🤣 it like reading a RUclips upload title and leaving a comment with out watching the video 😂
I really admire Martin’s wisdom
The weight discussion in the USA is on another level than in the rest of the world, because the US combines the most unhealthy food with very bad healthcare.
Dude its great to watch a comedy show and see a rare and sophisticated discussion of cultural attitudes and norms.
I swear after every South Park, special idiots run away with the wrong message. Can we get morgan freeman voice overs for these people.
If the fast food industry (one of the biggest in America) wasn't making alot of money off of obesity,big pharma will..And shopping to eat healthy is a m'fer too..Just try to shop at a Healthy Foods grocery store!! I DARE SOMEBODY!! The industry makes it expensive, but not impossible, to eat healthy.
Lizzo reacted to something that was tame. South Park could've easily used the accusations as material and all the times she's done stupid stuff in public (putting her bare ass on a public seat at a basketball game)
Body positive and health positive are not the same!
As a fat woman. I am body positive because I cannot make an instant changes to my body, I have pcos and insulin resistance which makes weight gain difficult to maintain and I’ve been on meds. Before my diagnosis I was told I was fat by doctors my entire teenage years when I wasn’t even remotely overweight. I was athletic and musclar but was told to lose 20-30 lbs every doctor visit. My diet was restricted and I was made to work out more than 5 hours a day. That has caused to too binge eat in secret and fast. Overall it ruined my relationship with food and I began to gain weight after my grandmother died and we moved to another state. Now I’m actually obese. I accept how I look and have gotten to a point in my life where I genuinely do not care what people think. I wear what I wear and I look how I look, whether folks like it or not. I also accept that I need to lose weight to be healthy, however It’s not anyone else’s business or concern what my health issues are, because if I were skinny and a pothead no one would care about my “health.” I know that I am fat and I am getting the help I need from medical professionals, I don’t need or like being constantly reminded of something that I am already aware of. So many folks think they are original. As a fat person, I’ve probably been told about 300 or times that I’m fat and I need to lose weight because it’s “unhealthy.” People who feel the need to humble me, don’t see me starving myself for weeks, losing and gaining 20-50 pounds over and over again, or being medically neglected. They don’t care if I have ED, if I am losing weight in a healthy way, if I lost an ovary, or if I made any progress, they just hate that I’m big and there’s nothing else to it. These folks don’t give a damn if I live or die. I am beautiful and based on how men treat me, I know that I’m very attractive despite being obese. Without recognizing that beauty, I would never have the confidence to go to the gym, hop in the pool, roll into a skating rink, or jog around the neighborhood. When I was a teenage girl being misdiagnosed with being borderline overweight, I was embarrassed to do any physical activity in public bc I was being told I was fat by the people closest to me while my peers never saw me as such. As a result my self esteem dropped, my motivation for physical activity decreased and my motivation to binge increased more.
#preach Martin!! I agree w/ you 100% ❤✊🏾
Are you Fat?
Dude who did supersize me doc passed away this wknd. I didnt see the special but that wouldve been carthartic for him, esp if they mentioned him as he was a pioneer in calling out the hypocrisy of obesity and lifestyle in this country.
"With great waistline, comes zero responsibility."
One reason so many people are overweight in this country is because healthier food is so damn expensive.
I like what Nicole Byer said, "Everyone has fat, some just have more than others." Fat doesnt automatically mean "obese" and "unhealthy". Skinny doesn't automatically make you healthy and more beautiful than fat people. Bodies are bodies and everyone has the right to love themselves for themsleves. And nobody comes up to you randomly saying, "oh man, you're a good looking person despite you being thinner. I'm concerned with your health." So what makes you think you have a right to go up to fat people who DID NOT ASK YOU A DAMN THING and give your opinion about your false worry? Also, the scale at which we judge health is still vastly outdated in that we compare everything to the anatomy of adult white males. Lastly, that clip of Lizzo's reaction did come off a bit defensive, but I hadn't seen the whole video so I can't read it for sure without the entire context.
Yall should listen to Trevor Noah's podcast where they he actually brings in an expert who has studied Ozempic and they discuss more so the social aspects, past and present, surrounding weight within America and compared to other countries.