Yet another masterpiece from the singular director of our times. Insane that the's still cranking out epics like these into his 5th decade of filmmaking.
I really love how they ended this film so creatively. When Martin popped up I just smiled my head off seeing what he was doing. So much better than just a black screen with writing saying what happened to the real life characters. The 3 leads are all insanely good in here, the wail from Lily Gladstone when she realises her younger sister died was so real I felt like I wasn’t watching a movie, I can only compare it to the mother in Hereditary after finding her daughter died. Also, much like Oppenheimer who’s main theme was how nuclear holocaust is an almost inevitability which came out whilst we got to a very dangerous level of threat with Russia having one of the worst relationships it’s had with the West in decades, this film about absolutely brutal attempts at ethnic cleansing whilst we see what’s going on in Palestine right now is just crazy. Lastly I have to say, to see De Niro and Scorsese still making some of their best work deep into their 80s after being some of the best in their craft for the last 6 decades is something we may never see again and it’ll be a very sad day when they both pass but hopefully we can get a few more masterpieces before then
I love how I felt for close to 3.5 hours watching it like I was part of the movie sort of like a out of body journey like your soul is roaming around with all the characters in the movie it's just so mesmerizing and Hats off to Mr. Scorsese for that genius storytelling and direction. All the cast members even those whose screen time wasn't that big but still everyone and everything was just such perfection ❤️
Saw this in IMAX yesterday and was blown away. The pacing is so good that the time flies by. Everything was intriguing. I loved the story and the score was superb. That bass and drums went hard.
Utterly fantastic film. Rattled me by the end. I don't even want to talk about the filmmaking because of the story but it is near perfect. Dicaprio had a scene near the end that i don't think any other actor could do like that. Also Gladstone and deniro were fantastic
I also like the scene where Mollie asks Ernest about the "meds" she was given. The look on his face is so ambiguous - he could neither confirm nor deny that he knew what they were - and her calm rejection of him portrays more than words, and felt very real.
@@flowerfaeri I agree. Even though his more over-the-top performances like wolf of wall street are fantastic, this one was brilliant because of the nailing of subtle nuances
I really enjoyed it. I am noticing that like The Irishman Scorsese isn't doing like it did with his earlier films, it's much slower, but that doesn't even make less interesting. I actually get more curious to why he is making these decisions. I think people mature as they age and their experience and I feel like you can see that with The Irishman and Killers of the Flower Moon. Even with the ending I thought it was great as it seems like him being one of the masters, auteurs, he still a student experimenting.
To me, the key to DeCaprio’s simple character is the way he lights up whenever he says “I do love money!” He is never that excited by anybody or anything else in the story, Gladstone notwithstanding.
Going to see it tomorrow. Had to cancel last wknd because of a cold but I’m on the mend and ready to sit back and enjoy this. I’ll be back to watch the whole video. ✌🏼 🎥 🎞️ 🍿
I thought this was a great film and it reminded me more of The Irishman than Good fellas. I also can’t stop thinking about it. Great review Cortex as usual.
It's my favourite movie of the year. An urgent movie that lays bare the brutality of white capitalism and Indigenous people's tragedies. I hope it is seen by a lot of people and realisation dawns.
After seeing this movie, I had the thought that I wished that Mississippi Burning had been done with Scorsese directing with this runtime. I really loved what he did with this film. I’d like to see it again before it leaves the big screen.
My Analysis In Scorsese movies, many Characters are morally complex. There are genuinely good people, but are either stupid or losers. There are career criminals, but very principled. And then there are just the purely evil characters who you find something to like about. Time is another important element for us to understand the complexity of his characters and their motivation. He shows us how the changing times will also change his protagonists and his main characters. Time provides the opportunity for his protagonists to live up to their potential. Like being a champion in the ring (Jake LaMotta), a mobster climbing up the ranks (goodfellas), building an empire (Casino), feeding greed and indulging in excess (the wolf of Wall Street) or simply being a king in your own world (The Irishman, and pretty much all other movies). For a while time will also let these characters live with impunity. But if time gives, time will also take back. As time catches up with all of them, they will try to cling on to whatever power they still have until its all gone. In the end, they are regret not so much about what they did, but how time just caught up with them. How is all of that used in The Killers of the Flower Moon? Mollie is a benevolent character and you admire him for being a truly loving person. But this also makes her weak and almost cost her life. Ernest on the other hand is not intelligent, but skillfully manipulative. You know he loves his wife, but at the very same time he loves money more and values his loyalty more to King Hale than to his Wife. I thought it was a very powerful paradox that he is in fact caring for the very same wife he is poisoning. What he is doing is vile, but you see he does not enjoy it. Then there is King Hale. He is an evil man with no redemption. However, you kinda admire how he seemingly is very civil and to certain extent a respectable member of the community. Time is also an important element here. It is set at the time where the Osage were becoming prosperous because of the oil reserves they have in their land. For the protagonists, especially for Ernest this is the opportunity he will need to live up to his full potential. Because there is nothing going on for him. He is not smart, he is not really a decorated soldier, he is nothing more but an errand boy. But thanks to this opportunity and the guidance of his uncle, he will move up in the social lader. For a time he and his uncle will also act with much impunity. Until time simply catches up with them, they become reckless, the FBI will finally intervene, and little by little they lose the power they have. In Goodfellas and Wolf of Wall Street, the main protagonists were barely punished for all the wrong they did. They also have very little regret of it. The only thing they feel sad about is how times are now different. The Epilogue of this movie suggested the same. Both Ernest and King did not go through punishment commensurate of what they did. Despite protests they walked free. Also this piece of history was long forgotten and not taught until Scorsese told the story. I loved that he had to deliver the last line.
Watched it at the weekend. Probably best film I’ve seen this year. Still horrified what those poor people went through at the hands of the greedy and power hungry.
Oppenheimer definitely has Comp with Killers of the Flower Moon its a Masterpiece 1 of my favorite films Ever Leo and Rob are the Best Acting Combo i can watch them act off 1 another Forever they both are Oscar Winning Worthy so was Lilly Gladstone she was Perfection i wanted more of her. MARTY IS GETTING BETTER WITH AGE thats scary. I guess this going to be a Oppenheimer vs Killers showdown at the Oscars i love it There both Films that is Film making at the highest Order
Killers of the Flower Moon by Martin Scorsese a great film about a dark history of America. I didn't feel the duration of 3h26 we can notice Scorsese's brilliant production. Impeccable casting with a downside on Leonardo DiCaprio overplaying and the actor who plays Agent Smith of the investigation bureau lacks charisma. De Niro brilliant who plays William Hale as a greedy uncle ready to do anything for the family to recover the land of Mollie's family from the Osage tribe. First investigation by the FBI investigation office, a long investigation which led to William Hale and Ernest Burkhat being put behind bars for complicity in murder. The last shot of a drum and an Osage dance seen from above ends the film. Killers of the Flower Moon a great film by a great director at the top of his art.
I always wonder what might have happened if Daniel Plainview the character from There Will Be Blood really lived. He probably would have done the same thing.
I saw Killers of the Flower Moon yesterday and it is without question one of the absolute best movies of the year. The weight of every single scene just took its toll on me. It was a violent film like most of Scorsese’s work but the physical violence while terrible didn’t bother me as much as the psychological violence that took place throughout the film. What I mean by that is the mind games being played by not just the De Niro character on Di Caprio but the Di Caprio character on Lily Gladstone. The psychological manipulation that he commits against his wife is more awful than any of the scenes where people are murdered. Watching the film I was thinking in regards to the character played by Lily Gladstone how much more torture and psychological pain can this woman endure? Killers of the Flower Moon is not one of the Scorsese films that I could watch on repeated viewings like say Goodfellas, The Departed, Casino, Taxi Driver or Raging Bull. Not because of the running time which to be honest wasn’t really an issue for me it’s mainly because of the heaviness and complexity and emotional weight of every scene that doesn’t make me feel entertained but feel that I’m enduring something that I don’t want to go through again. That’s not to say that it isn’t an incredible film because it is but I wasn’t clamoring to watch it again like I was when I saw Casino in the theater for the first time.
Cut out an hour with a different editor and you'd have a masterpiece. My god how to squander the amazing performances. The first few minutes gave me goosebumps and then it just lost the plot.
Yes your so right everyone is raving about this movie yet my main issues with this movie is the length Its not that 3 h + movies are bad (one of my favorite movies is Lord of the Rings Return of the King and I did enjoy Oppenheimer ) but the 2nd half just drags on it just doesn’t match the first hour there are for sure scene that could been cut and then you think when the investigators show up the movie is going to start picking up but its conclusion is very underwhelming which is a shame as you said the acting is fantastic but the movie falls flat at the end I found myself looking at the clock which I rarely do in cinemas .
@@jackbauer5455 not just the running time. There are so many things that rubbed me the wrong way. Some of the stylistic choices in the beginning (title cards, black and white inserts) that vanished and weren't used again. That incessant guitar riff underscoring everything. There was also ZERO sense of time and space - days could've gone by but seemingly it was years? It also has so many throwaway characters that come in and out of the plot whenever they're needed. And why, WHY do we need to care about DiCaprio's Ernest? Why are we following the white man's antagonist point of view on this? It's literally the LEAST interesting angle to take. The Osage are reduced to sideline characters seemingly just undergoing their tragic fate. I like how Scorsese still swings big at his age, but there was a decent 2 hour movie in this ... this 3,5 hour mess isn't it. If this didn't have Scorsese's name on it, nobody would be singing its praise as much.
I didn't feel that the second half dragged but it was definitely long. I agree that there probably could have been cuts but not sure where. I'd have to watch it again for that.
@@therareidiot5168 True I did find it odd that they based the movie on Ernest rather than the Osage it definitely gets more praises because its a Scorsese movie however its no masterpiece in my view like The Departed or Taxi Driver.
Leonardo DiCaprio was by far the best. He WAS Ernest. Far better than DeNiro who was just DeNiro with a bad Okie accent. Lily Gladstone was great, but Leonardo was incredible. I also loved the way he caught the beauty and majesty of the land. It was truly a masterpiece.
I think he thought he loved her, but he didn’t. To slowly poison Mollie, that wasn’t love. For him, the Osage were a means to an end. He had very little thought and immediate rationalizations prior to his actions. I think he was evil.
I also could not soon watch the movie again due to the historical brutality and resulting tragedies and depth of feeling it brings you to from the directors superb masterpiece. Although 3 1/2 hours was not necessary in my opinion, especially by the last third of the movie. A few repetitious scenes with needless retelling of the story during the end could have been shortened or eliminated. It was refreshing to see a real magnificently directed and acted movie not driven by present political agendas or wokeness invasion and warping. Martin has always placed the pure integrity of the story being expressed in his movies as paramount. No better acting could have been found especially by Molly as the true heart and soul of this one. Thankful for the revelatory nature of Martins choice as possibly his last contribution to a brilliant and heartfelt career of devotion to true cinema. This true event needed to be told and especially in this way by Scorsese, and wow did he.
man i felt so bad for di caprio's character all movie, kept doing bad things and you can tell he was sick of himself. i thought lily's performance was easier, she just had to stay stoic most of the time. leo had to go through all sorts of emotions, like in the jail scene.
Really fantastic film. It just lost me a little after Ernest gets arrested initially, I know it’s obviously a true story that’s depicted but still it just kind of meanders from there (until the fabulous radio show ending) the tension of whether he testifies or not just didn’t really grab me, it seemed like with the evidence and 3 other peoples testimony it felt like King was screwed either way. Obviously the acting and everything is still great through that section it just seemed like all the tension was released then it just keeps going because it has to.
A very well put together movie from a craft perspective. But I did not like a lot of the creative decisions and was emotionally quite lost throughout the movie. Deniro's role in this was nothing special for him. Dicaprio's was a bit hammy at times and definitely not one that left my jaw on the floor. Felt like there was both too much and too little subtlety in every aspect. It was very long, too, but did not make the ending more impactful for me. If anything it made me feel blurrier about what I had been feeling up to that point. I hope it is well received because this is the type of movie that we need to be making, and you could feel the heart and talent behind it, but I personally didn't feel much for this one.
A masterpiece? No. Killers Of The Flower Moon was not a masterpiece. 2.5 stars out of 5. The film was too long by an hour. There was no suspense nor tension at all. Within the first 15 minutes it was clear who the villains of the story were going to be. Anyone with an IQ of 85 knew Robert de Niro's character was the crime boss. There was no nuance within the movie. None. The Osage people were presented as weak-willed, alcoholic, obese, racist and pathetic. The insanely Woke Hollywood Left pretends that aboriginal Americans were ONLY victims of Euro-American racism while the truth is Native American tribes were extremely racist against EVERY other group of human beings ... the Lakota hated the Crow .... the Pawnee hated the Lakota .... the Mohawk despised the Huron and every tribe hated "white people".
Your critical thinking has been destroyed by watching too many Marvel ‘films’. Knowing who the villains were early in the film didn’t make a difference to the tension or suspense. Scorsese was retelling a piece of American history and of the injustice done to the Osage.
It doesnt get enough praise. This is the best movie of the year, but I feel like Oppenheimers and Barbies hype will lead to a few robberies at the Oscars
It was a Masterpiece ,so real like you felt you were there,like they weren't acting... Sadly these crimes against Indigenous people are still going on... The movie transcends both place and time motives with greed...people still feed... devastation to the nation... A different day,but it hasn't gone away...
Loved the film. In terms of themes, I think the racism of the criminal acts was secondary to the corrupting nature of wealth and power. One of the points hit upon is that Di Caprio's character genuinely loves his wife & Di Niro's character seemingly has some sort of genuine respect for the Osage. But neither love nor respect can overcome the corrupting influence of greed for money and power in these two characters. That's why Di Caprio keeps making all the wrong choices, even though it seems to be breaking his heart.
I believe that's exactly the point. The film took its time in establishing that Di Caprio actually cared for her ("She's a real lady") and the family they've built...but he's too weak in his addictions to say no to the steadily increasing betrayals suggested to him by his uncle. As he poisons his wife, his drinking increases--he literally poisons himself in one scene--because he feels what he's doing is wrong. He only truly turns on his uncle when their child dies--which is the first time he goes off script and says, "I have to care about my kids and my wife now." I think Scorsese isn't reducing the evil things this character did to the one note "he was a racist". More, this character was just too morally weak in his addictions to stand up for what was right, and that's how most evil in the world happens, racist or otherwise. @@PerryWidhalm
Greed is a big theme, you see small instances of racism and how natives were seen. They weren't seen as people, you have a discussion about how you would be better off trying to get a charge against kicking a dog. Also how they needed guardians to handle their finances and how merchants took advantage charging "Osage prices"
I think it is a bit more difficult to understand the real life people because Ernest was actually 19 years old when he moved there and Hale (his uncle) was only 41. I loved the movie. At the same time, the skew of the ages did make a difference.
I absolutely LOVE Killers of the Flower Moon but gotta agree with you on The Irishman. I couldn't sit through the whole thing and that fight scene with the "de-aged" actors was sadly comical. They just did not move like young men 😆 However, KOTFM is worth seeing in the theatre. The set design and cinematography are amazing, the acting is superb and the story is compelling.
I absolutely hated this movie. Poor character development. Anti-heroes are not supposed to be irredeemable. This story should have been told from Molly's pov
The main white characters are so contemptible that I had zero interest in what happens to people, with whom, I simply cannot identify. I walked out after 2 & 1/2 hours, in disgust, because I knew there could be no acceptable outcome to the relevant events. Either whitey would get off, altogether, or if they were convicted, there of course, would be insufficient punishment that I wouldn't want to witness. The action is too slow, by far, & I kept mumbling: cut, cut, cut.
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Hope you enjoy my spoiler review for Martin Scorsese's Killers Of The Flower Moon. What did you think of the director's latest film?
Yet another masterpiece from the singular director of our times. Insane that the's still cranking out epics like these into his 5th decade of filmmaking.
LOL@@LorenzoWake
@@LorenzoWake6th decade, even!
One of the best films of the year. Haven’t been able to stop thinking about it since I saw it in IMAX on Friday night.
Same here.
“Can you find… the wolves… in this picture?”
I really love how they ended this film so creatively. When Martin popped up I just smiled my head off seeing what he was doing. So much better than just a black screen with writing saying what happened to the real life characters. The 3 leads are all insanely good in here, the wail from Lily Gladstone when she realises her younger sister died was so real I felt like I wasn’t watching a movie, I can only compare it to the mother in Hereditary after finding her daughter died. Also, much like Oppenheimer who’s main theme was how nuclear holocaust is an almost inevitability which came out whilst we got to a very dangerous level of threat with Russia having one of the worst relationships it’s had with the West in decades, this film about absolutely brutal attempts at ethnic cleansing whilst we see what’s going on in Palestine right now is just crazy. Lastly I have to say, to see De Niro and Scorsese still making some of their best work deep into their 80s after being some of the best in their craft for the last 6 decades is something we may never see again and it’ll be a very sad day when they both pass but hopefully we can get a few more masterpieces before then
I love how I felt for close to 3.5 hours watching it like I was part of the movie sort of like a out of body journey like your soul is roaming around with all the characters in the movie it's just so mesmerizing and Hats off to Mr. Scorsese for that genius storytelling and direction. All the cast members even those whose screen time wasn't that big but still everyone and everything was just such perfection ❤️
This movie will age like fine wine
Solid 10/10. Perfectly paced, great adaptation, acting is incredible. Couldn't see again right this minute but definitely could rewatch soon.
Saw this in IMAX yesterday and was blown away. The pacing is so good that the time flies by. Everything was intriguing. I loved the story and the score was superb. That bass and drums went hard.
Truly a Masterpiece :-) Never thought that DiCaprio could play his character this good.
He always kills his roles. Terrific actor.
Utterly fantastic film. Rattled me by the end. I don't even want to talk about the filmmaking because of the story but it is near perfect. Dicaprio had a scene near the end that i don't think any other actor could do like that. Also Gladstone and deniro were fantastic
did great
What was the DiCaprio scene near the end?
@@barry4649 the shot of him while testifying when the camera stays in place for a very long time
I also like the scene where Mollie asks Ernest about the "meds" she was given. The look on his face is so ambiguous - he could neither confirm nor deny that he knew what they were - and her calm rejection of him portrays more than words, and felt very real.
@@flowerfaeri I agree. Even though his more over-the-top performances like wolf of wall street are fantastic, this one was brilliant because of the nailing of subtle nuances
Not my typical movie choice ,but thoroughly enjoyed it. I will definitely be seeing it again at the weekend 😊😊😊😊
Whats your typical movie choice
Im going to re watch the second it hits digital, your crazy
Saw it last night and it was AMAZING!
Loved it! Superb acting. I love Lily Gladstone.
So far this is the best review of “Killer of the flower moon” I’ve seen from so many’s!
Im going to be watching it tomorrow so I’m going to wait to watch your video. Im super excited for it! This video just makes me even more excited!!!
Hope you enjoy it!
@@CortexVideos Thx, love your videos! Keep up the good work, you help to inspire me.
loved Molly in this film, amazing performance
Me too. Favourite actress performance of the year so far
I loved Oppenheimer but it looks like this movie is another great picture for 2023. I'll try to see it this weekend.
I really enjoyed it. I am noticing that like The Irishman Scorsese isn't doing like it did with his earlier films, it's much slower, but that doesn't even make less interesting. I actually get more curious to why he is making these decisions. I think people mature as they age and their experience and I feel like you can see that with The Irishman and Killers of the Flower Moon. Even with the ending I thought it was great as it seems like him being one of the masters, auteurs, he still a student experimenting.
Indeed a masterpiece.
I watched it 3 days ago, and I feel its growing in my brain... I definitely want to see it again now after initally not being that impressed with it.
To me, the key to DeCaprio’s simple character is the way he lights up whenever he says “I do love money!” He is never that excited by anybody or anything else in the story, Gladstone notwithstanding.
Going to see it this Tuesday. Can’t wait.
You can wait ....
Can’t wait to see this one.
If you have studied this history and pored over the surviving photographs, those little round glasses of Hale's begin to haunt you.
Going to see it tomorrow. Had to cancel last wknd because of a cold but I’m on the mend and ready to sit back and enjoy this. I’ll be back to watch the whole video. ✌🏼 🎥 🎞️ 🍿
The best movie of the year for sure
Agree. 9 out of 10. Subtle in how it unravels the story. Excellent performances all around.
Best Oscar motion picture this year .. You heard it first. I will bet on Lilly Gladstone for Best female actress.
I thought this was a great film and it reminded me more of The Irishman than Good fellas. I also can’t stop thinking about it. Great review Cortex as usual.
It's my favourite movie of the year. An urgent movie that lays bare the brutality of white capitalism and Indigenous people's tragedies. I hope it is seen by a lot of people and realisation dawns.
My brother you are God sent thank you for your content
Best film I've seen in a theater in ages. Brilliant.
After seeing this movie, I had the thought that I wished that Mississippi Burning had been done with Scorsese directing with this runtime. I really loved what he did with this film. I’d like to see it again before it leaves the big screen.
this year has been great. Too many contenders but im torn between this masterpiece and Oppenheimer. I think both are phenomenon films.
My Analysis
In Scorsese movies, many Characters are morally complex. There are genuinely good people, but are either stupid or losers. There are career criminals, but very principled. And then there are just the purely evil characters who you find something to like about.
Time is another important element for us to understand the complexity of his characters and their motivation. He shows us how the changing times will also change his protagonists and his main characters. Time provides the opportunity for his protagonists to live up to their potential. Like being a champion in the ring (Jake LaMotta), a mobster climbing up the ranks (goodfellas), building an empire (Casino), feeding greed and indulging in excess (the wolf of Wall Street) or simply being a king in your own world (The Irishman, and pretty much all other movies). For a while time will also let these characters live with impunity. But if time gives, time will also take back. As time catches up with all of them, they will try to cling on to whatever power they still have until its all gone. In the end, they are regret not so much about what they did, but how time just caught up with them.
How is all of that used in The Killers of the Flower Moon? Mollie is a benevolent character and you admire him for being a truly loving person. But this also makes her weak and almost cost her life. Ernest on the other hand is not intelligent, but skillfully manipulative. You know he loves his wife, but at the very same time he loves money more and values his loyalty more to King Hale than to his Wife. I thought it was a very powerful paradox that he is in fact caring for the very same wife he is poisoning. What he is doing is vile, but you see he does not enjoy it. Then there is King Hale. He is an evil man with no redemption. However, you kinda admire how he seemingly is very civil and to certain extent a respectable member of the community.
Time is also an important element here. It is set at the time where the Osage were becoming prosperous because of the oil reserves they have in their land. For the protagonists, especially for Ernest this is the opportunity he will need to live up to his full potential. Because there is nothing going on for him. He is not smart, he is not really a decorated soldier, he is nothing more but an errand boy. But thanks to this opportunity and the guidance of his uncle, he will move up in the social lader. For a time he and his uncle will also act with much impunity. Until time simply catches up with them, they become reckless, the FBI will finally intervene, and little by little they lose the power they have.
In Goodfellas and Wolf of Wall Street, the main protagonists were barely punished for all the wrong they did. They also have very little regret of it. The only thing they feel sad about is how times are now different. The Epilogue of this movie suggested the same. Both Ernest and King did not go through punishment commensurate of what they did. Despite protests they walked free. Also this piece of history was long forgotten and not taught until Scorsese told the story. I loved that he had to deliver the last line.
I agree! One of the best of the year
Watched it at the weekend. Probably best film I’ve seen this year. Still horrified what those poor people went through at the hands of the greedy and power hungry.
de niro was incredible
Watching the film 🎬 right now...
It's a precious, well crafted jewel 💎💎💎 ..
A masterpiece.
Oppenheimer definitely has Comp with Killers of the Flower Moon its a Masterpiece 1 of my favorite films Ever Leo and Rob are the Best Acting Combo i can watch them act off 1 another Forever they both are Oscar Winning Worthy so was Lilly Gladstone she was Perfection i wanted more of her. MARTY IS GETTING BETTER WITH AGE thats scary. I guess this going to be a Oppenheimer vs Killers showdown at the Oscars i love it There both Films that is Film making at the highest Order
I agree. Atm i think its those two for beat picture. I guess we'll see if anything joins them
@@CortexVideos agreed we shall see
Napoleon also comming.
Killers of the Flower Moon by Martin Scorsese a great film about a dark history of America.
I didn't feel the duration of 3h26 we can notice Scorsese's brilliant production.
Impeccable casting with a downside on Leonardo DiCaprio overplaying and the actor who plays Agent Smith of the investigation bureau lacks charisma. De Niro brilliant who plays William Hale as a greedy uncle ready to do anything for the family to recover the land of Mollie's family from the Osage tribe.
First investigation by the FBI investigation office, a long investigation which led to William Hale and Ernest Burkhat being put behind bars for complicity in murder.
The last shot of a drum and an Osage dance seen from above ends the film.
Killers of the Flower Moon a great film by a great director at the top of his art.
Lily will win an Oscar. I can feel it.
It is indeed..man we are getting spoiled this year...now waiting for the killer and napolean
I didnt realize Leonardo dicaprio character was gonna be a bad person as well
Same! I purposely avoided reading anything about it until after I saw it, beyond the trailer. It didn't disappoint.
10 out of 10!
Best film of the year
So far, you mean?
I was expecting this to be a mystery whodunnit film but not that at all. Pretty good 7.5/8 out of 10. That epilogue was bizarre and unusual
I always wonder what might have happened if Daniel Plainview the character from There Will Be Blood really lived. He probably would have done the same thing.
Powerful movie what a legend
I saw Killers of the Flower Moon yesterday and it is without question one of the absolute best movies of the year. The weight of every single scene just took its toll on me. It was a violent film like most of Scorsese’s work but the physical violence while terrible didn’t bother me as much as the psychological violence that took place throughout the film. What I mean by that is the mind games being played by not just the De Niro character on Di Caprio but the Di Caprio character on Lily Gladstone. The psychological manipulation that he commits against his wife is more awful than any of the scenes where people are murdered. Watching the film I was thinking in regards to the character played by Lily Gladstone how much more torture and psychological pain can this woman endure? Killers of the Flower Moon is not one of the Scorsese films that I could watch on repeated viewings like say Goodfellas, The Departed, Casino, Taxi Driver or Raging Bull. Not because of the running time which to be honest wasn’t really an issue for me it’s mainly because of the heaviness and complexity and emotional weight of every scene that doesn’t make me feel entertained but feel that I’m enduring something that I don’t want to go through again. That’s not to say that it isn’t an incredible film because it is but I wasn’t clamoring to watch it again like I was when I saw Casino in the theater for the first time.
Lilly Gladstone definitely makes the film. I agree a 9 out of a 10.
Cut out an hour with a different editor and you'd have a masterpiece. My god how to squander the amazing performances. The first few minutes gave me goosebumps and then it just lost the plot.
Yes your so right everyone is raving about this movie yet my main issues with this movie is the length Its not that 3 h + movies are bad (one of my favorite movies is Lord of the Rings Return of the King and I did enjoy Oppenheimer ) but the 2nd half just drags on it just doesn’t match the first hour there are for sure scene that could been cut and then you think when the investigators show up the movie is going to start picking up but its conclusion is very underwhelming which is a shame as you said the acting is fantastic but the movie falls flat at the end I found myself looking at the clock which I rarely do in cinemas .
@@jackbauer5455 not just the running time. There are so many things that rubbed me the wrong way. Some of the stylistic choices in the beginning (title cards, black and white inserts) that vanished and weren't used again. That incessant guitar riff underscoring everything. There was also ZERO sense of time and space - days could've gone by but seemingly it was years? It also has so many throwaway characters that come in and out of the plot whenever they're needed. And why, WHY do we need to care about DiCaprio's Ernest? Why are we following the white man's antagonist point of view on this? It's literally the LEAST interesting angle to take. The Osage are reduced to sideline characters seemingly just undergoing their tragic fate. I like how Scorsese still swings big at his age, but there was a decent 2 hour movie in this ... this 3,5 hour mess isn't it. If this didn't have Scorsese's name on it, nobody would be singing its praise as much.
I didn't feel that the second half dragged but it was definitely long. I agree that there probably could have been cuts but not sure where. I'd have to watch it again for that.
@@therareidiot5168 True I did find it odd that they based the movie on Ernest rather than the Osage it definitely gets more praises because its a Scorsese movie however its no masterpiece in my view like The Departed or Taxi Driver.
Leonardo DiCaprio was by far the best. He WAS Ernest. Far better than DeNiro who was just DeNiro with a bad Okie accent. Lily Gladstone was great, but Leonardo was incredible. I also loved the way he caught the beauty and majesty of the land. It was truly a masterpiece.
For those who saw it, did Leo’s character actually love his wife or was it a complete con?
I think he thought he loved her, but he didn’t. To slowly poison Mollie, that wasn’t love. For him, the Osage were a means to an end. He had very little thought and immediate rationalizations prior to his actions. I think he was evil.
I just came back from watching this film and it's no masterpiece imo. Not even close..
Found the picture disappointing
Absolutely fantastic movie that was robbed at the Oscars. Scorsese is so good at his craft.
Absolutely
Killers of the Flower Moon is a top 3 Scorsese I think.
I also could not soon watch the movie again due to the historical brutality and resulting tragedies and depth of feeling it brings you to from the directors superb masterpiece. Although 3 1/2 hours was not necessary in my opinion, especially by the last third of the movie. A few repetitious scenes with needless retelling of the story during the end could have been shortened or eliminated. It was refreshing to see a real magnificently directed and acted movie not driven by present political agendas or wokeness invasion and warping. Martin has always placed the pure integrity of the story being expressed in his movies as paramount. No better acting could have been found especially by Molly as the true heart and soul of this one. Thankful for the revelatory nature of Martins choice as possibly his last contribution to a brilliant and heartfelt career of devotion to true cinema. This true event needed to be told and especially in this way by Scorsese, and wow did he.
man i felt so bad for di caprio's character all movie, kept doing bad things and you can tell he was sick of himself. i thought lily's performance was easier, she just had to stay stoic most of the time. leo had to go through all sorts of emotions, like in the jail scene.
Really fantastic film. It just lost me a little after Ernest gets arrested initially, I know it’s obviously a true story that’s depicted but still it just kind of meanders from there (until the fabulous radio show ending) the tension of whether he testifies or not just didn’t really grab me, it seemed like with the evidence and 3 other peoples testimony it felt like King was screwed either way. Obviously the acting and everything is still great through that section it just seemed like all the tension was released then it just keeps going because it has to.
A very well put together movie from a craft perspective. But I did not like a lot of the creative decisions and was emotionally quite lost throughout the movie. Deniro's role in this was nothing special for him. Dicaprio's was a bit hammy at times and definitely not one that left my jaw on the floor. Felt like there was both too much and too little subtlety in every aspect. It was very long, too, but did not make the ending more impactful for me. If anything it made me feel blurrier about what I had been feeling up to that point. I hope it is well received because this is the type of movie that we need to be making, and you could feel the heart and talent behind it, but I personally didn't feel much for this one.
Wait what performance did Leo do in a Scorsese film that was anywhere near as good as he was in killers of the flower moon?? Il wait
What’s eating Gilbert Grape
@@f8talfury No he said specifically in a Martin Scorsese movie that’s not a Scorsese movie
@@troybracy2915 you are right I misread your comment, then I would have to agree.
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Sure! 😉
Best De Niro in almost 30 years
Masterpiece is right.
Don't think it's that good... I really didn't like leonardo dicaprio's performance😢
a good movie, but way overlong.
A masterpiece? No. Killers Of The Flower Moon was not a masterpiece. 2.5 stars out of 5. The film was too long by an hour. There was no suspense nor tension at all. Within the first 15 minutes it was clear who the villains of the story were going to be. Anyone with an IQ of 85 knew Robert de Niro's character was the crime boss. There was no nuance within the movie. None.
The Osage people were presented as weak-willed, alcoholic, obese, racist and pathetic. The insanely Woke Hollywood Left pretends that aboriginal Americans were ONLY victims of Euro-American racism while the truth is Native American tribes were extremely racist against EVERY other group of human beings ... the Lakota hated the Crow .... the Pawnee hated the Lakota .... the Mohawk despised the Huron and every tribe hated "white people".
Your critical thinking has been destroyed by watching too many Marvel ‘films’. Knowing who the villains were early in the film didn’t make a difference to the tension or suspense. Scorsese was retelling a piece of American history and of the injustice done to the Osage.
LOL I have NEVER watched a Marvel film. Your reply is
just silly nonsense. Grow up ...@@donna25871
It doesnt get enough praise. This is the best movie of the year, but I feel like Oppenheimers and Barbies hype will lead to a few robberies at the Oscars
❤
It was a Masterpiece ,so real like you felt you were there,like they weren't acting...
Sadly these crimes against Indigenous people are still going on...
The movie transcends both place and time
motives with greed...people still feed...
devastation to the nation...
A different day,but it hasn't gone away...
Ending was stereotype😢😢
Ooh u r into real wrld tht ws jst a drma😂
Loved the film. In terms of themes, I think the racism of the criminal acts was secondary to the corrupting nature of wealth and power. One of the points hit upon is that Di Caprio's character genuinely loves his wife & Di Niro's character seemingly has some sort of genuine respect for the Osage. But neither love nor respect can overcome the corrupting influence of greed for money and power in these two characters. That's why Di Caprio keeps making all the wrong choices, even though it seems to be breaking his heart.
Di Caprio's character knew he was poisoning his wife. Odd kind of love .....
I believe that's exactly the point. The film took its time in establishing that Di Caprio actually cared for her ("She's a real lady") and the family they've built...but he's too weak in his addictions to say no to the steadily increasing betrayals suggested to him by his uncle. As he poisons his wife, his drinking increases--he literally poisons himself in one scene--because he feels what he's doing is wrong. He only truly turns on his uncle when their child dies--which is the first time he goes off script and says, "I have to care about my kids and my wife now." I think Scorsese isn't reducing the evil things this character did to the one note "he was a racist". More, this character was just too morally weak in his addictions to stand up for what was right, and that's how most evil in the world happens, racist or otherwise. @@PerryWidhalm
Greed is a big theme, you see small instances of racism and how natives were seen. They weren't seen as people, you have a discussion about how you would be better off trying to get a charge against kicking a dog. Also how they needed guardians to handle their finances and how merchants took advantage charging "Osage prices"
I think it is a bit more difficult to understand the real life people because Ernest was actually 19 years old when he moved there and Hale (his uncle) was only 41. I loved the movie. At the same time, the skew of the ages did make a difference.
There was no racism. Only evil and greed.
Masterpiece??! That movie was so monotonous. Not a feather in Scorsese's cap. The story had a lot of potential.
The book is a masterpiece. The movie just another examples of Hollywood ruining a great book.
But why it Flopped?
I guess I'm a hater but I found it incredibly boring and way too long. Would be much better if they trimmed the runtime by an hour or so.
Criticism doesn't make you a hater buddy. Perfectly ok to have your own perspective.
He hasn't made a masterpiece in a long time..irishman was plodding and used de aging badly...I will wait for it to drop on apple
Silence was fantastic (Andrew Garfield’s best performance by a mile), and that was 2016. About a year before he started working on this one.
I absolutely LOVE Killers of the Flower Moon but gotta agree with you on The Irishman. I couldn't sit through the whole thing and that fight scene with the "de-aged" actors was sadly comical. They just did not move like young men 😆 However, KOTFM is worth seeing in the theatre. The set design and cinematography are amazing, the acting is superb and the story is compelling.
@@flowerfaeri to me killers felt like a documentary at times which really slowed the film down..somebody needs to slap marty and the editor
Scorsese’s best film is The Departed.
I absolutely hated this movie. Poor character development. Anti-heroes are not supposed to be irredeemable. This story should have been told from Molly's pov
The main white characters are so contemptible that I had zero interest in what happens to people, with whom, I simply cannot identify. I walked out after 2 & 1/2 hours, in disgust, because I knew there could be no acceptable outcome to the relevant events. Either whitey would get off, altogether, or if they were convicted, there of course, would be insufficient punishment that I wouldn't want to witness. The action is too slow, by far, & I kept mumbling: cut, cut, cut.
It really wasn’t that good. Overhyped.
I thought it was excellent. I was concerned about its runtime but it flew by. Pacing in a film like this is crucial and they nailed it.
9/10 isn’t a masterpiece