Here's my full breakdown for Martin Scorsese's Killers Of The Flower Moon. Look out for my full review/video essay coming up in the next day or so too!
I read the book a few years back and was terrified that something so horrible was going on in such a big scale to a whole community. Both the book and movie are excellent. If you liked the movie I recommend the book highly.
Its Indian history. Yankees ripped them a part over and over. They are still doing it like N Dakota pipeline in recent year. Hollywood tried to beatify its history in dances of wolf etc. Marlon Brondo hated Hollywood for that reason. He sent the native Indian lady to his Oscar award in 1972 Godfather to make his point.
I'm not surprised because there are a lot of ppl that still believe that slavery of black ppl and the attempt genocide of the Jews didn't really happen,like ppl are just trying to grab sympathy.
The ending scene was a nod to true crime podcasts, which were how many people recently learned of the Osage murders. Radio theater was the 1930s equivalent.
@@jahrebel1308I grew up in Hominy, Osage county, with relatives in Fairfax, Pawhuska etc. I’m 70 years old now & until I read the book I’d never heard about it! My grandparent’s land was attached to the Osage village by a ditch. Even though my sister in law was part Osage & from Fairfax. People just didn’t talk about stuff like that back then.
In Goodfellas and Wolf of Wall Street, the main protagonists were barely punished for all the wrong they did. They also have very little regret of it. The only thing they feel sad about is how times are now different. The Epilogue of this movie suggested the same. Both Ernest and King did not go through punishment commensurate of what they did. Despite protests they walked free. Also this piece of history was long forgotten and not taught until Scorsese told the story. I loved that he had to deliver the last line.
@@Ironheart73 Sure, they didn't get to suffer the full extent of their deserved sentences, but things didn't exactly turn out well for them on the outside. Bill Hale went from being one of the most wealthy, respected and affluent men in Osage Country to becoming a pariah, banned from entering the place he used to lord over and ended up working as a farm hand before dying of old age in a nursing home. Meanwhile Ernest also ended up in poverty, living in a trailer park with his brother, and being shunned by his children. In a way it was bitter sweet for these two to have lived to old age in such pitiful conditions after all the death and misery their greed had caused.
@@barbiquearea I agree with you actually. My point is that IN THE MOVIE, not only were the characters not commensurately punished for their crimes. They were not really repentant. They only thing they are sorry for is that the are no longer where they once were in life.
Tragic of course, the Native American groups in this country had no recourse. The Federal Govt was determined to destroy all of them. It’s only quite recently that some tribes have had a little justice. But those people in remote reservations suffer daily.
What's even worst is the paper genocide of the copper colored aboriginal American... Who are now called African American and taught that their ancestors came off slave ships.... Whole identity removed through laws and compulsory education.
*Some tribes. Some tribes stole land from each other and massacred countless, enslaved many, and other brutalities. What makes Killers of the Flower Moon haunting is that this Osage tribe was very innocent and didn't commit the kind of crimes other tribes did or the American government and some of their own people fought as soldiers.
@@danielmorgan235 There were tribes that were constantly at war with each other, killing, taking slaves. But it is the scope of what the Federal Govt did that is so horrendous. They were after everyone, tribes that were peaceful, others that were not. When finally DC went & did something about White crime it was a new idea. At last, something J Edgar can be remembered honorably for.
I highly recommend reading the book. It was much more detailed. The Osage murders were not just twenty something as depicted in the movie, but was actually scores of killings. Also, the second half of the book was more about Tom White and his investigative team. He was the hero in the story.
Thanks for your recommendation and comments. I was debating whether or not to order the book from Amazon. I usually always read a book before seeing the movie. A group of us are going to see the movie this Sunday. I’ll read the book after. Thanks again
I had to see it twice to catch all the nuances. Made much more sense and more powerful the second time . DiCaprio was outstandingly believable The best DeNiro performance that I have ever seen. Aged to perfection. The best of the best of Scorsese. I'de say..... Masterpiece. 💛
Excellent movie….acting was superb…what a story…had my attention for the 3 1/2 hours….Thankyou Martin Scorsese for bringing this tragic story to the big screen …..
This film was incredible. I am grateful that it was 3+ hrs and a big spotlight was cast on these events. No matter the screen time, every actor did an outstanding job in their role.
The only scene I was confused about is the one in which Anna storms in drunk and argues with Byron, sitting on his lap and saying something like “you’ll be my husband” and him saying that’s a threat. Obviously Byron(Bryan) was a terrible person and Anna had an alcohol problem, but beyond that, I didn’t understand their dynamic/history, and it seemed like there was one implied.
@@brandonfranzen5191 In the book it was implied that Bill Hale was the father. Meaning he could have ordered not only Anna's death but also that of his unborn child.
Nothing! Judging from the previous reply. The movie is a masterpiece and the only people that don't like it are white history revisionists! They hate that these stories are being told as opposed to the John Wayne movie ones!!!
Such a powerful movie and realistic take on what happened Even the reference to the Tulsa Race riots aka Black Wallstreet as well. It’s an important film that shed light on this history Thanks for the deep dive into the history and for making this well done video as always
Ngl it was a hard watch because it was so long and my attention span isn't the best but I thought it was important to watch the whole film and know what these people went through
This movie hits home. My great grandmother was Native American from Oklahoma. Not Osage but Kiowa married my African American great grandfather and moved to Denver Colorado. Similar to Molly with family in Colorado Springs. My mother, sister and brother were also born in Oklahoma.
I felt it was an awkward way to end it like that. More because it didnt really mesh or the flow was off. After hearing from cortex that it is J Edgar Hoover radio drama episode though made it great and the cameo by Jack White was dope. The movie was absolutely amazing from start to beginning. I couldnt even tell it was 3 1/2 hours.
I saw this film yesterday. I understand from other videos that the film concept changed over the years prior to production, but it seemed that a person getting out of the army should be in his early 20s rather than as old as L.D., and that Hale's character, also, should have been quite a bit younger. This bothered me throughout the movie. I have yet to read the book, but I hope to do that before this year is done. The 3 1/2 hours flew by, and I didn't even realize how long it was (I hadn't looked before I went) as the plot moved along very well.
Toward the end of the movie you wonder how it can find a resolution because the emotion of the plot seemed to evolve around the emotion of several white characters and only the Mollie character was given real depth. Then the ending came with an old fashion radio play giving us the narrated resolution as seen through a white perspective. I thought it ultimately was the answer to what the Killers of the Flower Moon was about. It was about a continuing stream of senseless murders by whites who perpetrated the actual acts with the co-conspirators being not just the people in the city of Fairfax but in actuality all of white society that showed no concern. We were blind to the humanity of the Osage people. They were seen as no more than annoying obstacles in the way of the progress.
I think there was a dual personality thing going on. He knew something was off but the greed and fear of his uncle silenced what he was doing to her. I think his character is very Interesting because of the complex mixed feelings and choices he made.
@JJ-rd4gn I got the feeling there was a dual personality to but I haven't heard anyone else mention this but it was my feeling during the movie . Probably the most realistic interpretation of split personality that I've seen a male actor do sometimes the switch isn't major its subtle
Why didn't the women marry within their tribe? It seemed that every Osage woman in the movie married someone from the outside and so set the stage for their own murders.
Because the U.S Congress decided that the Osage people couldn’t handle their own wealth, so they made it illegal for them to spend their money without a White “guardian” giving them an allowance. They started marrying white people to get access to the money that should have been theirs outright.
I’ve never read the book, so I never really knew the story, but I watched previews of the upcoming killers of the flower moon before it was released, and I believed Leonardo DiCaprio‘s character protected his family against his uncle, and did everything to prove that he was killing his partners family Then to find out he was working with his uncle and poisoning his wife is so fucked up. The pain I feel for this woman and everything she went through that is true strength. People are truly animals and the term Wolfes in sheep‘s clothing resonates with the story
I really. Enjoyed mollie I hope gets best actress at academy please Lilly wears the dresses she wore in vogue magazine she will be star and not urge for the other stars trying to be naked as allowed her voice alone captures spirit and sadness of the Osage persons it’s also the county of Oklahoma thank you to Mr Scorsese !
I am sorry I got to speak my peace about this I know it's about a true story but still hurts when you have Native American blood which I do and I'm a woman and I'm extremely appalled that this happened way back
I agree it's evil but to be fair, white people crimes are always highlighted when all races have done terrible things. Natives killed other tribes, Mexicans have their cartels. Africans have their child soldiers and mercenaries. It's just of course never highlighted like white people crimes are. It's an anti-white agenda
It's horribly wonderful. The love of money IS the root of all evil. We just saw the film on 11/20. Your explanation of the film is "spot on." One person had a comment about the connection between Anna and Byron. (Brian?) She was pregnant, it seems by him. At least, that's what I gathered. It was very well written, and the ending was not what or how I expected it to be - shown as a "play" (radio) re-enactment. I thought that was beautifully crafted.
The brother's name was Byron not Brian... And in the real life story, Bill Smith was an Osage, not a white man like he's depicted in the film. I absolutely loved the movie though
Mollie was being poisoned with morphine withdrawal. "Once a day" is not enough for morphine addicts. That's why the doctors immediately gave her heroin when John Wren finally hospitalized her.
I can’t believe she stayed with a man that killed her Husband? I’m glad that the woman who played Lilly Gladstones sister confronted Her Husband and the Uncle
Marty inserting himself into the movie was both bold and pretentious. I haven’t had such a viscerally negative reaction to a movie ending like this since Damien Chazelle’s “Babylon.” I get why he did it, but I don’t have to like it. It would have been more rewarding if the person speaking was a modern Osage. I left the theater thinking what if Spielberg just had a cameo at the end of “Schindler’s List” where he deconstructs what happened to Oskar Schindler after the events of the Holocaust? I don’t think I’d care for it. It feels so self-gratifying. Otherwise, I really liked this movie. It’s an important film and the performances are all Oscar-worthy (Most notably Lily Gladstone).
Self indulgent is what you're looking for. I decided on this by hour two. Before the director himself closes out the final scene. It's good but the length hurts the pace. Many scenes could have been trimmed by a few seconds. Or cut entirely. It's like Tarantino's hateful eight the director is too popular for anyone to reign him in.
I think you're missing the point of his appearance. It's too bring home the point if this is a movie. I'm just a film director, but this story is real and did happen.
@@BiggNewt Nah, you’re missing the whole point of the message. The moment takes place during a recreation of a Lucky Strike radio program and serves to point out the flaws in the perspective of the program. Who should have the right to tell this story? Who will represent the Osage people’s story accurately and tell the untold? Well, Marty wants you to know that he believes he’s the one to do it. The “Directed By” credit wasn’t enough and he permanently inserted himself into the story literally by being in the film. Marty would have always been a part of this story simply for having his directing credit attached to it and deciding to appear in the film and making the decision to be the one to provide justice to the story of Molly is already implied by the creation of the movie and feels uncomfortable to me in execution. It would have been better if Marty let a modern Osage person be the one to stand up to the mic. Is Marty consciously pointing out that, like the radio program, this story is told and influenced by the white man (himself)? Not likely. I don’t think so. All of the promotional material has been about how the Osage trusted Marty to tell this story and his appearance feels self-serving.
I felt it was an awkward way to end it like that. More because it didnt really mesh or the flow was off. After hearing from cortex that it is J Edgar Hoover radio drama episode though made it great and the cameo by Jack White was dope. The movie was absolutely amazing from start to beginning. I couldnt even tell it was 3 1/2 hours.
Here's my full breakdown for Martin Scorsese's Killers Of The Flower Moon. Look out for my full review/video essay coming up in the next day or so too!
Worst Scorcese movie ever...a major dud...all Leo DiCaprio did was frown the whole time
Not much of a critique don’t you think? I didn’t find your opinion very helpful.
@@charliewakefield3312You apparently didn’t understand the movie.
For me the moment when di caprio realises that mollie knows that he tried to poison her was peak acting.
I read the book a few years back and was terrified that something so horrible was going on in such a big scale to a whole community. Both the book and movie are excellent. If you liked the movie I recommend the book highly.
I am shocked that you were so shocked
@@creolelady182so nice of you and thank you to be shocked that I was shocked 😳
@@creolelady182right. That’s a very disingenuous reaction to be “shocked” by this unless you’ve lived in a cave your entire life. 🙄
Its Indian history. Yankees ripped them a part over and over. They are still doing it like N Dakota pipeline in recent year. Hollywood tried to beatify its history in dances of wolf etc. Marlon Brondo hated Hollywood for that reason. He sent the native Indian lady to his Oscar award in 1972 Godfather to make his point.
I'm not surprised because there are a lot of ppl that still believe that slavery of black ppl and the attempt genocide of the Jews didn't really happen,like ppl are just trying to grab sympathy.
The ending scene was a nod to true crime podcasts, which were how many people recently learned of the Osage murders. Radio theater was the 1930s equivalent.
I thought that was done so well 🔥 left me with a like oh shit that’s crazy reaction just watched this movie last night
So many people hated the radio play ending but I thought it worked perfectly, showing how the events had been reduced and ultimately lost to history.
@@jahrebel1308I grew up in Hominy, Osage county, with relatives in Fairfax, Pawhuska etc. I’m 70 years old now & until I read the book I’d never heard about it! My grandparent’s land was attached to the Osage village by a ditch. Even though my sister in law was part Osage & from Fairfax. People just didn’t talk about stuff like that back then.
Just saw it today, what an unbelievable story told so well by Martin, the cast, and crew. Felt gutted by the end.
In Goodfellas and Wolf of Wall Street, the main protagonists were barely punished for all the wrong they did. They also have very little regret of it. The only thing they feel sad about is how times are now different. The Epilogue of this movie suggested the same. Both Ernest and King did not go through punishment commensurate of what they did. Despite protests they walked free. Also this piece of history was long forgotten and not taught until Scorsese told the story. I loved that he had to deliver the last line.
"Also this piece of history was long forgotten and not taught until Scorsese told the story" uuummm you do know there was a book FIRST right?
@@capsortee There was a non fiction novel, which this movie is based on. But the events here were barely mentioned in history lessons in our schools
@@Ironheart73 Sure, they didn't get to suffer the full extent of their deserved sentences, but things didn't exactly turn out well for them on the outside. Bill Hale went from being one of the most wealthy, respected and affluent men in Osage Country to becoming a pariah, banned from entering the place he used to lord over and ended up working as a farm hand before dying of old age in a nursing home. Meanwhile Ernest also ended up in poverty, living in a trailer park with his brother, and being shunned by his children. In a way it was bitter sweet for these two to have lived to old age in such pitiful conditions after all the death and misery their greed had caused.
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@@barbiquearea I agree with you actually. My point is that IN THE MOVIE, not only were the characters not commensurately punished for their crimes. They were not really repentant. They only thing they are sorry for is that the are no longer where they once were in life.
Tragic of course, the Native American groups in this country had no recourse. The Federal Govt was determined to destroy all of them. It’s only quite recently that some tribes have had a little justice. But those people in remote reservations suffer daily.
What's even worst is the paper genocide of the copper colored aboriginal American... Who are now called African American and taught that their ancestors came off slave ships.... Whole identity removed through laws and compulsory education.
*Some tribes. Some tribes stole land from each other and massacred countless, enslaved many, and other brutalities. What makes Killers of the Flower Moon haunting is that this Osage tribe was very innocent and didn't commit the kind of crimes other tribes did or the American government and some of their own people fought as soldiers.
@@danielmorgan235 There were tribes that were constantly at war with each other, killing, taking slaves. But it is the scope of what the Federal Govt did that is so horrendous. They were after everyone, tribes that were peaceful, others that were not. When finally DC went & did something about White crime it was a new idea. At last, something J Edgar can be remembered honorably for.
I highly recommend reading the book. It was much more detailed. The Osage murders were not just twenty something as depicted in the movie, but was actually scores of killings. Also, the second half of the book was more about Tom White and his investigative team. He was the hero in the story.
Thanks for your recommendation and comments. I was debating whether or not to order the book from Amazon. I usually always read a book before seeing the movie. A group of us are going to see the movie this Sunday. I’ll read the book after. Thanks again
I hope you enjoy it!
It was mentioned that there were over 60 unexplained deaths (murders and poisonings). We only say the dozen in the movie.
Just watched the film. There were only 13 watching with us. So sad.
4 of us too, solid film, decaprio struggles with the character a bit.
@@mrwolsy3696De Niro was top notch. DiCaprio and Gladstone were great as well.
My theater was equally quiet.
I think people like me are waiting to watch it streaming.
@@mrwolsy3696I didn’t think so he was greedy but had no ego. Weak but a monster
I had to see it twice to catch all the nuances. Made much more sense and more powerful the second time . DiCaprio was outstandingly believable
The best DeNiro performance that I have ever seen. Aged to perfection.
The best of the best of Scorsese.
I'de say.....
Masterpiece. 💛
Not the movie I saw... worst Scorcese movie ever...all Leo DiCaprio did was frown
@@charliewakefield3312 You're probably mad that the Osage had even a little bit of justice huh? Wish you lived back then, Coyote?
Excellent movie….acting was superb…what a story…had my attention for the 3 1/2 hours….Thankyou Martin Scorsese for bringing this tragic story to the big screen …..
This film was incredible. I am grateful that it was 3+ hrs and a big spotlight was cast on these events.
No matter the screen time, every actor did an outstanding job in their role.
Worst Scorcese movie ever..slow build up then nothing...all Leo DiCaprio did was frown the whole time
Booooriiing!
The only scene I was confused about is the one in which Anna storms in drunk and argues with Byron, sitting on his lap and saying something like “you’ll be my husband” and him saying that’s a threat. Obviously Byron(Bryan) was a terrible person and Anna had an alcohol problem, but beyond that, I didn’t understand their dynamic/history, and it seemed like there was one implied.
Yes in the book it states the they had an on/off again relationship
She was pregnant
@@brandonfranzen5191 In the book it was implied that Bill Hale was the father. Meaning he could have ordered not only Anna's death but also that of his unborn child.
I believe later in the movie it mentions he was an ex boyfriend when they show investigation going on by creek
Thanks for posting the ending because I can’t bear to watch the film. Just too painful.
If this movie doesnt 'wake' you up i dont know what will!
Actually fell asleep half way though. Very mediocre.
Nothing! Judging from the previous reply. The movie is a masterpiece and the only people that don't like it are white history revisionists! They hate that these stories are being told as opposed to the John Wayne movie ones!!!
You did a great job reviewing this movie I got a great understanding man great job!
Appreciate the epilogue--ie what happened to the Osage fortune etc.
Such a powerful movie and realistic take on what happened
Even the reference to the Tulsa Race riots aka Black Wallstreet as well. It’s an important film that shed light on this history
Thanks for the deep dive into the history and for making this well done video as always
Ngl it was a hard watch because it was so long and my attention span isn't the best but I thought it was important to watch the whole film and know what these people went through
This movie hits home. My great grandmother was Native American from Oklahoma. Not Osage but Kiowa married my African American great grandfather and moved to Denver Colorado. Similar to Molly with family in Colorado Springs. My mother, sister and brother were also born in Oklahoma.
I felt it was an awkward way to end it like that. More because it didnt really mesh or the flow was off. After hearing from cortex that it is J Edgar Hoover radio drama episode though made it great and the cameo by Jack White was dope. The movie was absolutely amazing from start to beginning. I couldnt even tell it was 3 1/2 hours.
Great movie. But if you want to go deeper into the characters in the movie I highly recommend that people read the book. Thanks for sharing.
Molly must have been suspicious of Ernests motives but whats sad is that the cops were in on it
All of Martin Scorsese fils are a tribute to his imagination. Love of the art of film thank you
I saw this film yesterday. I understand from other videos that the film concept changed over the years prior to production, but it seemed that a person getting out of the army should be in his early 20s rather than as old as L.D., and that Hale's character, also, should have been quite a bit younger. This bothered me throughout the movie. I have yet to read the book, but I hope to do that before this year is done. The 3 1/2 hours flew by, and I didn't even realize how long it was (I hadn't looked before I went) as the plot moved along very well.
Toward the end of the movie you wonder how it can find a resolution because the emotion of the plot seemed to evolve around the emotion of several white characters and only the Mollie character was given real depth. Then the ending came with an old fashion radio play giving us the narrated resolution as seen through a white perspective. I thought it ultimately was the answer to what the Killers of the Flower Moon was about. It was about a continuing stream of senseless murders by whites who perpetrated the actual acts with the co-conspirators being not just the people in the city of Fairfax but in actuality all of white society that showed no concern. We were blind to the humanity of the Osage people. They were seen as no more than annoying obstacles in the way of the progress.
This isn’t really an analysis of the film it just says what happens
Did Leo know he was giving her poison? I really loved this movie Leo and Dinero were amazing
Deniro
In my mind, there is no doubt he knew what he was doing, and that added so much reality and completely to the characters.
I believe he did because there’s a scene with him taking a drink of the “poison”. I’m not sure of his intention there.
I think there was a dual personality thing going on. He knew something was off but the greed and fear of his uncle silenced what he was doing to her. I think his character is very Interesting because of the complex mixed feelings and choices he made.
@JJ-rd4gn I got the feeling there was a dual personality to but I haven't heard anyone else mention this but it was my feeling during the movie . Probably the most realistic interpretation of split personality that I've seen a male actor do sometimes the switch isn't major its subtle
If you want to know what really happened to the Osage, don’t waste your time with the movie, read the book.
A great movie! Seen it twice now and fascinated to learn about this event. Your video helped. Thank you.
Why didn't the women marry within their tribe? It seemed that every Osage woman in the movie married someone from the outside and so set the stage for their own murders.
Because the U.S Congress decided that the Osage people couldn’t handle their own wealth, so they made it illegal for them to spend their money without a White “guardian” giving them an allowance. They started marrying white people to get access to the money that should have been theirs outright.
Because they could access their money more easily if they had a white guardian/husband.....
I liked it a lot, for me it is an 8.5/10. There is a great documentary about the real story and I was happy to have watched it before.
Would it take 3 hours to convey the idea in movie theater setting? Maybe this movie is better suit for project contents like series in Neflix.
Great great movie
Is the kind of movie that the Florida history books would like to keep out of
I’ve never read the book, so I never really knew the story, but I watched previews of the upcoming killers of the flower moon before it was released, and I believed Leonardo DiCaprio‘s character protected his family against his uncle, and did everything to prove that he was killing his partners family Then to find out he was working with his uncle and poisoning his wife is so fucked up. The pain I feel for this woman and everything she went through that is true strength. People are truly animals and the term Wolfes in sheep‘s clothing resonates with the story
Excellent breakdown !
Thanks Jesse
I really. Enjoyed mollie I hope gets best actress at academy please Lilly wears the dresses she wore in vogue magazine she will be star and not urge for the other stars trying to be naked as allowed her voice alone captures spirit and sadness of the Osage persons it’s also the county of Oklahoma thank you to Mr Scorsese !
There is a text before the ending title and the credits, I assume it's Osage, but what does it say?
I think it’s the title “Killers Of The Flower Moon”
I am sorry I got to speak my peace about this I know it's about a true story but still hurts when you have Native American blood which I do and I'm a woman and I'm extremely appalled that this happened way back
yes, because it's about you. great job! lol.
THIS MOVIE MAKES ME SICK THINKING HOW WHEREVER THE WHITE MAN PUT HIS FOOT HE DESTROY WITH OPPRESSION IN MIND
I agree it's evil but to be fair, white people crimes are always highlighted when all races have done terrible things. Natives killed other tribes, Mexicans have their cartels. Africans have their child soldiers and mercenaries. It's just of course never highlighted like white people crimes are. It's an anti-white agenda
Perhaps Scorsese will tackle the Tulsa Race Riot next...hmmmmm.
Thank you for the explanation...very hard to forget.
It's horribly wonderful. The love of money IS the root of all evil. We just saw the film on 11/20. Your explanation of the film is "spot on." One person had a comment about the connection between Anna and Byron. (Brian?) She was pregnant, it seems by him. At least, that's what I gathered. It was very well written, and the ending was not what or how I expected it to be - shown as a "play" (radio) re-enactment. I thought that was beautifully crafted.
This movie was crazy honestly i just watched it last night
The brother's name was Byron not Brian... And in the real life story, Bill Smith was an Osage, not a white man like he's depicted in the film. I absolutely loved the movie though
Im about 30 mins into it and needed this,, thanks man that was an amazing breakdown
the whole movie i kept waiting for ernest to redeem himself. weird to see a movie with no real protagonist because they are down the whole time.
Tragic and sad story but the film was pretty boring. I don't mind the length I just though the performances were meh.
Good movie, had me interested all untill the end. The end was a bit cheesy. Reminds me of past, who done it movies.
Movies are more real than historical facts? Right…
Amazing
the fact that people need this movie "explained" is very sad.
Leo was the star of this movie, his acting was incredible. Everyone else is really great, of course, but Leo is next level.
Mollie was being poisoned with morphine withdrawal. "Once a day" is not enough for morphine addicts. That's why the doctors immediately gave her heroin when John Wren finally hospitalized her.
A "non-fiction novel"? The book is not a novel.
Dehumanizing Natives made it easy for yt ppl to continue to do these atrocities.
dehumanizing ANYONE does that. That's how it works. The people who did happened to be "YT"(LOL)...it happens to ALL races. Get over it.
This movie is the modern version of Inugami Family
(犬神家の一族)
Ending explained? Some stuff happened. Some people did something. Here's a really cool shot of men fighting a fire.
The funny thing is that king hale is a jew himself
How could he poison his wife if he loved her?
Greed, love of money.
Easy answer He didn't really love her. I think he cared for like idk property or something.
@@channelZER01 yeah. That's pretty twisted
He didn't love her
Am i the only one that thought Deniro’s character reminded me of Lotso from Toy Story 3? Same maneurisms and character arc almost.
This is a wild take
I can’t believe she stayed with a man that killed her Husband? I’m glad that the woman who played Lilly Gladstones sister confronted Her Husband and the Uncle
Then there is the ongoing living racism.
was it just me or did Robert De Niro's southern accent go in and out
No offence to David Grann, but i’ll take a Cortex Video audio book on this any day over reading the book itself
It’s just too long. They could have cut a lot out and made it 2 or 2.5 hours.
I wanted so much to enjoy but didn't. I was actually disappointed and dosed off
The way they were treated pmo so bad I couldn’t watch the whole movie
Marty inserting himself into the movie was both bold and pretentious. I haven’t had such a viscerally negative reaction to a movie ending like this since Damien Chazelle’s “Babylon.”
I get why he did it, but I don’t have to like it. It would have been more rewarding if the person speaking was a modern Osage. I left the theater thinking what if Spielberg just had a cameo at the end of “Schindler’s List” where he deconstructs what happened to Oskar Schindler after the events of the Holocaust? I don’t think I’d care for it.
It feels so self-gratifying.
Otherwise, I really liked this movie. It’s an important film and the performances are all Oscar-worthy (Most notably Lily Gladstone).
Isn't the point of that ending not to feel rewarded. Also the osage tribe do close the film I think it's communicating non verbally their message.
Self indulgent is what you're looking for. I decided on this by hour two. Before the director himself closes out the final scene.
It's good but the length hurts the pace. Many scenes could have been trimmed by a few seconds. Or cut entirely.
It's like Tarantino's hateful eight the director is too popular for anyone to reign him in.
I think you're missing the point of his appearance. It's too bring home the point if this is a movie. I'm just a film director, but this story is real and did happen.
@@BiggNewt Nah, you’re missing the whole point of the message. The moment takes place during a recreation of a Lucky Strike radio program and serves to point out the flaws in the perspective of the program. Who should have the right to tell this story? Who will represent the Osage people’s story accurately and tell the untold?
Well, Marty wants you to know that he believes he’s the one to do it. The “Directed By” credit wasn’t enough and he permanently inserted himself into the story literally by being in the film. Marty would have always been a part of this story simply for having his directing credit attached to it and deciding to appear in the film and making the decision to be the one to provide justice to the story of Molly is already implied by the creation of the movie and feels uncomfortable to me in execution.
It would have been better if Marty let a modern Osage person be the one to stand up to the mic. Is Marty consciously pointing out that, like the radio program, this story is told and influenced by the white man (himself)? Not likely.
I don’t think so. All of the promotional material has been about how the Osage trusted Marty to tell this story and his appearance feels self-serving.
I felt it was an awkward way to end it like that. More because it didnt really mesh or the flow was off. After hearing from cortex that it is J Edgar Hoover radio drama episode though made it great and the cameo by Jack White was dope. The movie was absolutely amazing from start to beginning. I couldnt even tell it was 3 1/2 hours.
lets be honest there was no civilization. we were all "savages"
Can we draw any comparison between Palestinians and Native Americans!? Or between Gaza strip and reservations?
Apples and oranges I think
no
THIS MOVIE LIKE BRUCE LEE MOVIE LIKE FIST OF FURY IS THE JAPANS OPPRESION OF THE CHINESE SO I WANT TO KN OW IF THE KILLERS WERE THEY OF JEWISH DECENT
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Oil for Casinos
Build a casino and they will come.
WERE THE KILLERS OF JEWISH DECENT FROM CAPE TOWN
The film is too long and I was only interested in lily Gladstone and the other native americans
Too long I agree
The same history with Palestine,
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tooooo long by an hour, boring dialogue, icky casting.
I agree
I thought the casting was fine, you kinda went in knowing what you were going to get because Scorcese can’t use anyone outside Leo or Deniro
I though the acting was superb .I loved this film .such a sad story .
All a bit shallow and cliché. I was disappointed.
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This movie was trash