Hi Charlie! Always enjoy your Sunday updates. I was offered Starbucks in December from Rolex AD, wasn’t a model I requested. Would have been foolish of me to pass up, so I purchased to add to my collection.🤔
if the difference between AD and grey market is close, why would you ever turn down a brand new 2025 watch from the AD if it's a watch you really want?
This is a good point. It seems that people go to grey dealers to get the watch on the day and not play the Rolex qualification game. If you already have a relationship with Rolex, then this isn't really an issue and of course it would be better getting it from the source.
Exactly. I'd only go grey for high end pieces in todays market, because you may save 5-10k there. What's a grand for a steel watch from the AD, nothing.
I went to the AD at Harrods in December and was told that nothing was available. I went again yesterday and they told me nothing is in stock. I ended up buying a two tone large Cartier Santos.
Don’t bother with Harrods. There are allegations out there that their Rolex AD is corrupt. All the nicest models are allegedly held back for people who spend the most money in Harrods overall.
@ that is not correct. I dont think platinum with ice blue is a pass, yellow gold with green or ombre green cannot be pass, yellow gold onyx dial cannot be pass, rose gold green dial same and also the eisenkiesel… so all in all there are very good pieces in that collection
Because he pushes watches he can sell. Notice how there is never a peep about the 1903? A beautiful watch if you want a Rolex dress watch and don’t like Patek.
Thanks for the update, especially on the two tone Root Beer. This is indeed the next one I'm waiting on from my AD (here in Pennsylvania USA). Hopefully within the next couple of months.
Hi Charlie I hope you and your family and all the team at LWC are all keeping healthy and you are having a lovely weekend. Another great honest genuine video. I am sure there will be lots of opportunities to purchase some beautiful Rolex timepieces over the next 12 to 18 months. At your AD. Wishing you all a great week ahead filled with gratitude 🙏
Hi Charlie, love the videos. Tune in every week! I was offered the White Gold Daytona Oysterflex with a black dial from my AD. I was actually on the list for the ghost, they got the wrong watch on the order weirdly. I turned it down. Too much money to spend on a watch I didn’t order. Did I do the right thing in your opinion? Thanks!
Among the Daytona Oysterflex models, can you tell me the order of popularity and the price formed by the latest stamping among the three models: Yellow Gold Pikachu, White Gold Ghost, and Rose Gold Thunder? Please tell me.
Hi Charlie. As usual, great content and insights as usual. I’m in the market for a YM 40 Rhodium. What are your recommendations? It seems to have gone a little day. Thank you in advance.
What are your thoughts on the yachtmaster 40mm with rhodium dial. I've been waiting a year for that watch from the AD. Should i just carry on waiting or go grey market thanks.
8:41 - I was registered for the black diamond version but I turned it down after I got the call last year! I'm not sure why, but the Daytona just looks small on my wrist compared to my other 40mm pieces. Apparently it is due to the slightly wider bezel, but I'm not sure. It's a stunning watch but unfortunately not for me in the end.
Hi Charlie! Nice Video! Ive purchased from an AD and had an amazing experience. I’ve heard that Rolex may track down pieces sold to Grey Market dealers and ban those individuals from buying from an AD again. Does stuff like that happen? As a buyer do I have any risk buying from a Grey Dealer? Just curious and thank you!
Thanks Justin appreciate that! Glad you had a great experience! Yes that can happen if they find out yes. But if you choose a reputable dealer you should be safe 👍
A large major AD store location I know only got 2 in last year and they went to VIP clients. Which I totally understand, if I'd spent upwards of 500K I'd want priority treatment.
@@thehonestwatchdealer How its made, and Coke coming. It's the Blue that causes the problem. In all of the GMT bezels a single colour glaze power is placed around the full bezel then a second glaze power is placed over the top half. The intensity of the Blue needs to be strong enough to cover the Red or the red shows through purple. This is why in the sun the blue is slightly purple. If they make it too thick you get a thicker to thinner fault line at 3 and 9 which can snap. On all the others, the Blue, Green, Brown glaze power is put on first and black placed second, the black is a dominant colour and covers the under colour in a thinner coat. If they is any shine trough it would be a complementary Blue/black, Green/Black, Brown/Black hue which is fine. Coke would be a slightly darker red than Pepsi with black over the top. It's a much easier configuration to produce than Red/Blue. I heard from a Tudor AD that Rolex patented a new GMT colour way. My guess is a Coke is coming, now whether the Maxi case switches to a 41mm is less certain.
Hi Charlie, great video as always! I am looking to get a 36 Wimbledon fluted-jubilee combination. What are your thoughts on that one. Try the AD or go for the grey market?
Hi Charlie, would love to have your opinion on the Rolex Daytona vs Vacheron Constantin Overseas? Which one's a better build and holds its value over time?
Once again a great and informative video, not sure I agree with you about not purchasing from an AD, yes you'll pay more but you are guaranteed to receive an AUTHENTIC timepiece and that includes the box and bracelet.
Enjoyed this Charlie, very informative, I’m coming up a year now waiting for a Sub date 😔, got a phone call appointment with them this week hoping for some info!! Keep up the great work 👏🏻😄👍🏻
Thanks mate appreciate you watching! Usually takes a few months for the increase to transfer onto the secondary market, we will have to see what happens!
I see an Explorer in one of the camera shots. Id love to hear what prices are looking like for models like the DJ, Explorer, Explorer. 2, Air King, etc.
Hey Charlie, have you heard rumor Rolex is looking to discontinue the mint green skydweller this year? I like them, but if this happens I’m thinking grey price is going up!
@@thehonestwatchdealer Th only down side, my other watches take a backseat. I'm looking at that pink date just you have for a graduation gift for my daughter, obviously, I'll let you know.
Hi Charlie, loved all your videos and insights mate. I just want to ask for your advice regarding the oysterflex paul newman dial. I really liked the old model with the red needle. Does it matter if I buy a 2021 model instead of a 2023 model? Given it is Rolex, as long as the 2021 is new and unworned, it should be OK right? Thanks
I don't understand when you can get a brand new unworn piece for under retail. why are people doing this? where are they getting these brand new pieces where they can sell them under retail? how are they making any money or even not losing money doing this? and if theyre not making money and even losing money... why do they do it?
@ oh so customers buy them at retail from AD so they build a relationship with the AD so they can get more desirable watches? and then just sell them to a grey market dealer cheaper than they paid... therefore grey market dealer can sell them less than retail and still make money?
@ thanks! Of the 15 ADs I’ve visited between US and Japan, they all claim to have only seen one and never have a display model. Luckily, I did have a chance to try one on wrist in a Tokyo resell shop
I'm seeing chrono24 being flooded by Batman's and Batgirls now, quite a few at £11,000. Going to wait a few more months and pull the trigger on an unworn batman for £12,000.
@@thehonestwatchdealerI actually have £13,000 but its principal, i sold my first and only rolex the batman because a friend became very sick and sold it for very little to a dealer to its pure principal now more than anything. I'm getting mine, so to speak. Sorry for sounding so bitter, but grey market dealers have had enough
My AD also in past three months i have collected Sprite , pepsi and batman at retail. They told me there starting to see more watches. Lucky????Hmmm i dont think so will see
Honest salesman’s Rolex channel- a must watch! 😆
Hi Charlie! Always enjoy your Sunday updates. I was offered Starbucks in December from Rolex AD, wasn’t a model I requested. Would have been foolish of me to pass up, so I purchased to add to my collection.🤔
Thanks Mike so pleased to hear you like them!
Yes definitely a good one to take, congratulations on the addition to your collection! 🙌
if the difference between AD and grey market is close, why would you ever turn down a brand new 2025 watch from the AD if it's a watch you really want?
This is a good point. It seems that people go to grey dealers to get the watch on the day and not play the Rolex qualification game. If you already have a relationship with Rolex, then this isn't really an issue and of course it would be better getting it from the source.
Exactly. I'd only go grey for high end pieces in todays market, because you may save 5-10k there. What's a grand for a steel watch from the AD, nothing.
Enjoyable video my AD was saying that they only get one platinum Daytona per year!
I can believe that! Very rare watch 👌🏻
I went to the AD at Harrods in December and was told that nothing was available. I went again yesterday and they told me nothing is in stock. I ended up buying a two tone large Cartier Santos.
Cartier is more classy Rolex is dead only a few models look decent Cartier santos always looks good 👍
Don’t bother with Harrods. There are allegations out there that their Rolex AD is corrupt. All the nicest models are allegedly held back for people who spend the most money in Harrods overall.
Congratulations mate, stunning watch, enjoy it! 👌🏻
is it better to start buying the sports watches from the late 80 and into the 90s... are they better value or are they as much money?
Why do you almost never talk about day dates ?
Their shite
He only talks about watches he can sell
Because they're a one million percent pass. Same for most of the catalog in his eyes nowadays.
@ that is not correct. I dont think platinum with ice blue is a pass, yellow gold with green or ombre green cannot be pass, yellow gold onyx dial cannot be pass, rose gold green dial same and also the eisenkiesel… so all in all there are very good pieces in that collection
Because he pushes watches he can sell. Notice how there is never a peep about the 1903? A beautiful watch if you want a Rolex dress watch and don’t like Patek.
Thanks for the update, especially on the two tone Root Beer. This is indeed the next one I'm waiting on from my AD (here in Pennsylvania USA). Hopefully within the next couple of months.
You are very welcome Scott, thanks for watching! Hopefully you will get the call soon 👌🏻
Hi
Charlie I hope you and your family and all the team at LWC are all keeping healthy and you are having a lovely weekend. Another great honest genuine video. I am sure there will be lots of opportunities to purchase some beautiful Rolex timepieces over the next 12 to 18 months. At your AD. Wishing you all a great week ahead filled with gratitude 🙏
Thanks Karl, hope you are too!
Yes should be a good year for some great opportunities! 👌🏻
Great insights, now I'm leaning towards authorized dealers! 👍
Hi Charlie, love the videos. Tune in every week! I was offered the White Gold Daytona Oysterflex with a black dial from my AD. I was actually on the list for the ghost, they got the wrong watch on the order weirdly. I turned it down. Too much money to spend on a watch I didn’t order. Did I do the right thing in your opinion? Thanks!
Hi mate thank you, so glad you like them!
Yes you did the right thing, definitely best to hold out for the Ghost 👌🏻
Among the Daytona Oysterflex models, can you tell me the order of popularity and the price formed by the latest stamping among the three models: Yellow Gold Pikachu, White Gold Ghost, and Rose Gold Thunder? Please tell me.
Thanks mate, you got them in the right order yourself!
Pikachu is the best to aim for,
Then Ghost
Then Sundust
I’ve had the same watch for over 20 years and have not had a problem with it at all. And, it’s not a Rolex.
It’s true - Timex’s are great.
Incredible, bet it has some great stories to tell!
I waited 3 days for my Steel Sub No Date lol picked it up yesterday
What country?
@ US, no purchase history
👌🏻 enjoy it mate!
@@thehonestwatchdealer Thanks brother! An amazing watch.
which city?
James Cameron is 44 not 40
Apologies mate, well spotted!
@thehonestwatchdealer np, great content keep it up
as long as people paying over retail the ad dance will continue. if you dont want to support it actually you should NOT buy over retail.
Really good, transparent video. Big fan of the channel LWC, thank you for your public service announcement! Appreciate the video, well done lads!
Thanks Aaron, appreciate that mate, glad you liked this one! 🙌
Hi Charlie. As usual, great content and insights as usual. I’m in the market for a YM 40 Rhodium. What are your recommendations? It seems to have gone a little day. Thank you in advance.
Such a great watch! Get one from the AD if you can, or on the secondary for a touch over with no wait! 👌🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer thank you!
What are your thoughts on the yachtmaster 40mm with rhodium dial. I've been waiting a year for that watch from the AD. Should i just carry on waiting or go grey market thanks.
Stunning watch! Entirely up to you, should be able to get it a touch over list with no wait on the secondary market 👍
That’s my watch. Such a beauty.
A year's wait is not worth the time. Go get one from a grey dealer that is trustworthy or @thehonestwatchdealer and enjoy the watch on your wrist.
8:41 - I was registered for the black diamond version but I turned it down after I got the call last year! I'm not sure why, but the Daytona just looks small on my wrist compared to my other 40mm pieces. Apparently it is due to the slightly wider bezel, but I'm not sure. It's a stunning watch but unfortunately not for me in the end.
It can wear quite small yes! Well done on passing if it wasn’t quite right for you 👌🏻
What about datejusts? Didn't realize they were that unpopular to receive no mention 👀
Stunning watches, best ones to go for - fluted/jubilee in the mint green or wimbledon dials! 👍
JC 40mm? 44 isn’t it?
Hi Charlie! Nice Video! Ive purchased from an AD and had an amazing experience. I’ve heard that Rolex may track down pieces sold to Grey Market dealers and ban those individuals from buying from an AD again. Does stuff like that happen? As a buyer do I have any risk buying from a Grey Dealer? Just curious and thank you!
Thanks Justin appreciate that! Glad you had a great experience!
Yes that can happen if they find out yes. But if you choose a reputable dealer you should be safe 👍
Great video as always, do you see the skydweller model coming closer to retail anytime this year?
Thanks Shaun glad you liked it.
The entry level dials yes, but most probably not the blue or mint green 👍
I want to take a trip from the USA to buy a watch from you one day just to meet you and get a hand shake. What a guy!
Thanks mate that would be great! Look forward to meeting you in the Boutique one day! 👌🏻
Thoughts on the Pepsi? Is it still near impossible to get from the AD?
Id say yes, when AD's are still selling to their mates and splitting the flip profit
Yes certainly one of the hardest to get at the moment!
A large major AD store location I know only got 2 in last year and they went to VIP clients. Which I totally understand, if I'd spent upwards of 500K I'd want priority treatment.
@ very true! 2 isn’t a lot at all!
@@thehonestwatchdealer How its made, and Coke coming. It's the Blue that causes the problem. In all of the GMT bezels a single colour glaze power is placed around the full bezel then a second glaze power is placed over the top half. The intensity of the Blue needs to be strong enough to cover the Red or the red shows through purple. This is why in the sun the blue is slightly purple. If they make it too thick you get a thicker to thinner fault line at 3 and 9 which can snap. On all the others, the Blue, Green, Brown glaze power is put on first and black placed second, the black is a dominant colour and covers the under colour in a thinner coat. If they is any shine trough it would be a complementary Blue/black, Green/Black, Brown/Black hue which is fine. Coke would be a slightly darker red than Pepsi with black over the top. It's a much easier configuration to produce than Red/Blue. I heard from a Tudor AD that Rolex patented a new GMT colour way. My guess is a Coke is coming, now whether the Maxi case switches to a 41mm is less certain.
In NJ
Got a no date sub 2025
2 weeks
They said it’s unheard of .
What’s that saying ?
Congrats! Hoping to get the call on one myself... waiting 3 months so far.
Congratulations mate, enjoy it! Not long to wait at all! 🙌
@@thehonestwatchdealer cheers mate
Can I ask what watch do you have on.
I wear the Daytona OysterFlex ‘Pikachu’
Great updates on the current Rolex market. I cannot believe the new MRSP from the ADs for the submariner, shocking!
Thanks mate really appreciate that!
Yes some hefty price increases weren’t there! 👍
Hi Charlie, great video as always! I am looking to get a 36 Wimbledon fluted-jubilee combination. What are your thoughts on that one. Try the AD or go for the grey market?
You could try at the AD! It is a stunning watch, so might have quite a wait time for this one!
Hi Charlie, would love to have your opinion on the Rolex Daytona vs Vacheron Constantin Overseas? Which one's a better build and holds its value over time?
Both incredible watches, Rolex would likely be more durable, however the VC is one of the ‘Holy Trinity’ after all!
Once again a great and informative video, not sure I agree with you about not purchasing from an AD, yes you'll pay more but you are guaranteed to receive an AUTHENTIC timepiece and that includes the box and bracelet.
Thanks Vinny!
Though if you pick a reputable dealer you should be good in terms of authenticity!
Would would your advice be for the Polar Explorer 2?
If to flip, then pass, however if to buy to wear and enjoy then yes go from the AD! 👍
@@thehonestwatchdealer Cool - it would be to wear during our Corporate wilderness events. Don't ask 😅
@@dennisjuenger4996 😆
Good words of wisdom again Charlie it’s mad how the market shifts each year
Thanks Paul, appreciate you watching! 🙏
TIP: Don’t piss off your AD or ever become rude with them. You will get nothing 😮 Just be nice!
That’s very true!
I should have bought one in 89 when they were $3,500. Daytona's were 12,000.
Those were the days!
Enjoyed this Charlie, very informative, I’m coming up a year now waiting for a Sub date 😔, got a phone call appointment with them this week hoping for some info!! Keep up the great work 👏🏻😄👍🏻
Thanks David really appreciate it! Hopefully you get some good news! 👌🏻
Did you just say the the james Cameron is 40mm? I've got one and mine is 44mm
What do you think about the yachtmaster 40 rhodium dial.... Buy or pass? Thanks
Million percent buy. Love mine
What about buying from the ad or the gray market?
Stunning watch! It’s a touch over on the secondary, so if you don’t want to wait - go grey!
I bought my Deep Sea from Charlie brand new for £14995 before the market dropped, but I don’t regret it and wear it every day, a beautiful watch!
It’s a stunning watch Dean, hope you are still enjoying it!
@ oh yes, no regrets Charlie but if you get the 50mm version in send me an email!
nice one again charlie , i look forward to them atb
Thanks mate glad you like them!🙏
You didn’t give a grey market price for the platinum Daytona!?!
Lol so you your advice is to pick all watches up at greymarket dealers :) I'll waiit for my daytona.. almost 2 years on the list, any minute now :)
Great video Charlie, what’s your prediction on the price of the OF Daytona range, with the recent 14% price increase?
Thanks mate appreciate you watching! Usually takes a few months for the increase to transfer onto the secondary market, we will have to see what happens!
Great content…thoughts on if AD offers rose oysterflex Daytona with sundust dial? Take it or go grey market?
With the recent price increase these would now be underlist for you to sell, but to wear and enjoy? Yes go for it!
I see an Explorer in one of the camera shots. Id love to hear what prices are looking like for models like the DJ, Explorer, Explorer. 2, Air King, etc.
So not the DJ 41 in wimbledon or Mint Green would be overlist. The others would be underlist 👍
Hey Charlie, have you heard rumor Rolex is looking to discontinue the mint green skydweller this year? I like them, but if this happens I’m thinking grey price is going up!
Heard this on one other RUclips channel, can’t be true only got released 2023, I hope it’s true though.
Lots of rumours like this circulate in the lead up to Watches and Wonders, take everything with a pinch of salt! 👌🏻
Why dont you just call it wait for the AD or pay 20% over on Grey ?
I got my blue dial sky dweller two years ago from my AD, to this day, I still dont know how I landed that thing.
Such an incredible one to get mate, enjoy it! 🙌
@@thehonestwatchdealer Th only down side, my other watches take a backseat. I'm looking at that pink date just you have for a graduation gift for my daughter, obviously, I'll let you know.
Hi Charlie, loved all your videos and insights mate. I just want to ask for your advice regarding the oysterflex paul newman dial. I really liked the old model with the red needle. Does it matter if I buy a 2021 model instead of a 2023 model? Given it is Rolex, as long as the 2021 is new and unworned, it should be OK right? Thanks
Yes it should be fine! The 2023 model will just give you extra warranty.
Stunning models, great choice!
@thehonestwatchdealer thanks Charlie! I will aim to come to your office one day to meet with you and see your store too!
@ look forward to having you in one day!
What about polar explorer, or grnr steel Bruce Wayne?
Bruce Waynes are still good to get, the Explorer II, pass if looking to flip 👍
@@thehonestwatchdealer Waynes...
The watch game is over mate.
How about the Daytona two tone diamond black dial ? I thought you were going to commentary on that one. Is that a buy?
If to flip on then pass. However to wear and enjoy, go for it! 🙌
I don't understand when you can get a brand new unworn piece for under retail.
why are people doing this? where are they getting these brand new pieces where they can sell them under retail? how are they making any money or even not losing money doing this?
and if theyre not making money and even losing money... why do they do it?
Yes so they would take the loss to move up the list for the more desirable pieces 👍
@ oh so customers buy them at retail from AD so they build a relationship with the AD so they can get more desirable watches?
and then just sell them to a grey market dealer cheaper than they paid... therefore grey market dealer can sell them less than retail and still make money?
@ that’s exactly it yes 👍
@ makes sense now youve explained it.
appreciate the reply thanks man
👊
Would have loved to know how much under list a new Bluesy is going for Charlie. Thx!
I believe he said 14?
Look online!
@ for sure… was just curious what “Charlie” was selling them for…
@ You can still see online. He has a webpage.
@ right thx👍🏽
What about Explorer 36?
ADs literally pushing them out. Not a big wait, if any. And a loss in a flip.
Quite underlist unfortunately!
@@thehonestwatchdealer where to buy it under list? I want to wear it not flip it lol
@@Deathignatortry Chrono24
@@LosAngeles10-33 not a single one under list
What do you think about
Datejust stainless steel
Azurre dial 2025
Stunning watch! Underlist of looking to flip - but to wear and enjoy, great one to go for!
Can you please talk about watches other than Rolex? Or is that the limit to this channel?
Thoughts on whether to dance or grey for the 1908?
Might be best to go grey for this one!
@ thanks! Of the 15 ADs I’ve visited between US and Japan, they all claim to have only seen one and never have a display model. Luckily, I did have a chance to try one on wrist in a Tokyo resell shop
Its easy like i did. 41 m full gold 2024 bluesy. 6 k less brand new then retail AD price may be a little nore
Yes best to get these on the secondary market for sure! 👌🏻
What about the yacht master 42 in titanium? You never discuss this piece….is it because they are impossible to get?
Very hard to get these ones! Will try and do a video when we next get one in 👍
What are your thoughts on. The 41 Wimbledon Jubilee? Looking to get a wedding present.
Such a great watch, definitely one to go for if you can get it 👌🏻
How about the 41 dayjust fluted?
Mint green and Wimbledon are great to get from the AD 👍
You should buy the ones you want to actually wear and keep and pass on anything else!
That’s definitely the best way 👌🏻
You should do WAY more content on Patek Phillipe
No.
Ive been waiting well over 24 mo for a sub here in the US still
😮, from my experience if you have other options besides mayors, you might have a better chance of getting one along with a special life event.
Hopefully you get the call soon mate! 🙏
I'll buy both the Bluesy and Root Beer on Jubilee if 1) unworn and 2) you have them.
Both pieces are only offered on oyster. Neither are offered on the jubilee.
Unfortunately these two don’t come on the jubilee bracelet!
😂🤣😂Rookie!!!!!!
Haha
@@thehonestwatchdealerokay oyster is fine.
Best dealer out there ! Honest guy
Thank you Mark, appreciate that! 👌🏻
Do you ever talk about anything other than Rolex? There are other noteworthy manufacturers.
Just picked a Sub 124060 for 11.5k€ unworn. Good or meh
Congratulations mate, stunning watch, enjoy it! 🙌
This guys the best honest dealer out there!!! Defo not Nico ! At least he’s honest
👌🏻🙏
Gray market prices 👎 Rolex AD availability 👎 That's why I got myself an Omega Speedmaster Pro, awesome piece at a reasonable price, try to beat that!
Stunning watch mate, enjoy it and thanks for watching! 🙏
Is the Ghost Daytona in 2025 still a million percent buy from my AD ?
Absolutely! Definitely take it if you can!
@@thehonestwatchdealer Thank you 🙏
I'm seeing chrono24 being flooded by Batman's and Batgirls now, quite a few at £11,000. Going to wait a few more months and pull the trigger on an unworn batman for £12,000.
Best of luck, hopefully you can manage to get one, enjoy it when you do! 🙌
@@thehonestwatchdealerI actually have £13,000 but its principal, i sold my first and only rolex the batman because a friend became very sick and sold it for very little to a dealer to its pure principal now more than anything. I'm getting mine, so to speak. Sorry for sounding so bitter, but grey market dealers have had enough
Batmans...
My AD also in past three months i have collected Sprite , pepsi and batman at retail. They told me there starting to see more watches. Lucky????Hmmm i dont think so will see
That’s incredible, got some great watches through there!
Don’t listen to him
IN THE COUNTRY WHERE I LIVE YOU CANNOT WEAR A ROLEX VISIBLY ON YOUR WRIST.
POLICE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THIS.
lol, joker.
Batgirl?
Great one to go for 👌🏻
Nice teeth!
Fake
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