Why The EV Industry Faces A Global Nickel Shortage

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  • Опубликовано: 18 мар 2022
  • As the EV industry ramps up, it could be hindered by a global shortage of nickel, a key component in most lithium-ion batteries. Tesla recently signed a deal to source nickel from a proposed mine in Minnesota, though mining raises a variety of environmental concerns that EV automakers must grapple with if they want to source battery minerals responsibly. Many also hope that battery recycling technology will scale up quickly enough to make a dent in the problem.
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  • @denisrehan7544
    @denisrehan7544 Год назад +27

    Indonesia's nickel trade has been discriminated against for a long time, before we exported nickel worth 1'5 billion USD before it was deducted and the price jumped to 20'8 billion USD after the smelter was built and even then those who import from Indonesia still benefit a lot because it can still be processed there and the price will also increase. soared bigger than 20'8 billion USD and there are still many raw goods that we export very cheaply and then process them and the prices become extraordinarily expensive and we are like destroying nature in Indonesia to make other countries' nature green, this is really very very evil discrimination.

    • @bighairycat
      @bighairycat 4 месяца назад

      Now Indonesia has flooded the market and caused the nickel price to drop so much that the Australian miners are stopping production and putting all their mines into care and maintenance.

  • @jeremythomasgilmer5216
    @jeremythomasgilmer5216 2 года назад +284

    It amazes me the overlap between people who are pro EV, and yet anti-mining. Nothing we use falls from the sky. Nothing.

    • @john-kt4vx
      @john-kt4vx 2 года назад +36

      Exactly but the phrase going green makes ppl feel better. Lol.

    • @RavensEagle
      @RavensEagle 2 года назад +15

      Ok, now I want batteries made out of meteorite fragment JUST CUZ 😂

    • @TheBauwssss
      @TheBauwssss 2 года назад +9

      Technically speaking though..... pretty much all metals fall from the sky from time to time (in the form of a meteorite)

    • @veerkar
      @veerkar 2 года назад +1

      Climate change is real and fast. Irreversible changes happening at South Pole. Nickel contamination in our water is a small price to pay, folks.

    • @dannnsss8034
      @dannnsss8034 2 года назад +9

      Solar energy.

  • @BrendanGeormer
    @BrendanGeormer 2 года назад +229

    At this point, the only thing we don't have a shortage of are shortages...

    • @johnh8705
      @johnh8705 2 года назад +8

      🤣 journalists can point to anything and declare a shortage.

    • @Ryan2022
      @Ryan2022 2 года назад +2

      @@johnh8705 exactly . All fear mongering

    • @2drealms196
      @2drealms196 2 года назад +1

      @Brendan Geormer Hate to break it to you shortages might get so bad that there might even be a shortage of shortages. In a July 2021 Financial Times article Bank of America's Research Predictive Analytics team, led by its head of research - director Thomas Thornton, thought there might eventually be "a shortage of shortages". (i'd link the article but then it'd get flagged as spam)

    • @mattyian1208
      @mattyian1208 2 года назад

      True

    • @AdamS-nd5hi
      @AdamS-nd5hi 2 года назад +1

      Hey dawg I heard you like shortages. So we put shortages of your shortages

  • @osc3892
    @osc3892 2 года назад +372

    It annoys me when people put a lot of resistance to mining things in the country instead of importing, either arguments about contamination and destroying the landscape. Not because they're invalid arguments, but because that means we are ok having someone else destroy their land for our sake, but it's a problem when we talk about doing it here instead.

    • @arthurmarsch6211
      @arthurmarsch6211 2 года назад +49

      It’s that NIMBY attitude 😤

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv 2 года назад +17

      Lol…… I actually argue with them, have you seen nickel mining in Russia!? It’s possibly the dirtiest industry in earth aside from the Canadian tar sand. The saddest town on earth is in Russia where they produce nickel.

    • @johnl.7754
      @johnl.7754 2 года назад +25

      If it was mined in the developed world it would also be much more environmentally friendly because of current laws and regulations

    • @roxaskinghearts
      @roxaskinghearts 2 года назад

      Yep and your the problem with climate change and global supply shortages Amazon said it right the world needs to be transformed into a themepark while manufacturing is taken to space let me ask you something how many astroids are between here and mars alone that we pass by every year just there alone how about on our moon the magnitudes of resource veins and how much large scale mining like your saying could do you dont want the job out of the way then it be one thing if you built things to be recycled vs thrown away we give this job to amazon not you because now we can demand this from them and help achieve it by taking a proactive approach in the design of amazon and then maybe giving it to you or our state keeps it sense yours clearly cant see outside its box

    • @rsynk
      @rsynk 2 года назад +12

      @@johnl.7754 and ten times more expensive

  • @stevenpaul4394
    @stevenpaul4394 2 года назад +9

    Someone told me that it's the best time to buy because there will be a huge pump soon

    • @joykelvin1595
      @joykelvin1595 2 года назад +1

      The cost of living is making people go into different businesses anyways, but my problem is that the rate at which money gets finished on little purchases is so surprising

    • @edwardgeorge7422
      @edwardgeorge7422 2 года назад

      I saw all this coming I had to switch to Crypto trading and I'm really enjoying the fact I made the right choice because of my weekly earnings

    • @jackdennis8035
      @jackdennis8035 2 года назад

      I make good income too from bitcoin trading and its been my most reliable source of income at the moment. With profits I've made so far I don't think i can get broke or lack anything

    • @davidthomas4788
      @davidthomas4788 2 года назад

      How do you do it sir?

    • @mariewoods4193
      @mariewoods4193 2 года назад

      Because I've tried severally but seems not working

  • @rb8049
    @rb8049 2 года назад +63

    70% of nickel is used in stainless steel. Batteries have been a growing use, but mostly for phones. Automobiles will primarily use LFP batteries.

    • @manasgupta8908
      @manasgupta8908 2 года назад +2

      The CT needs nickel unfortunately

    • @77Treasurehunter77
      @77Treasurehunter77 2 года назад +3

      Not most vehicles, different battery chemistries will be used.

    • @magnem1043
      @magnem1043 2 года назад

      Batteries will be standard in more stuff, be it war industry aswell

    • @Woburn-RoxburyMedia
      @Woburn-RoxburyMedia 2 года назад +2

      What about need for Nickel in Solid State Batteries ? Many believe by 2025 these will begin to be introduced into the Market. Also, I suggest we even take drastic measures, recycle Nickleback !

    • @greattime860
      @greattime860 2 года назад

      Why the US is running out of everything
      fron money to people, metals, in rubber and sand?
      Russian metals are deeply rooted in the US market.
      The US has already banned Russian oil and gas,
      but nickel and palladium have been noticeably left off the blacklist.
      Both are key components for America’s green revolution,
      which has some wondering if they’re simply too vital to sanction.
      The US is also facing an aging population,
      falling birth rate and economic recession
      caused by the Covid-19 pandemic.
      These issues will have huge implications
      on the size of the workforce and the consumer base.
      US government could run out of money soon- The US Treasury Secretary
      What country has spent 40% of the combined military budgets of the world,
      but their Pentagon still indicate to Congress
      they need to increase the military budget by $7 billion
      and send their troops to the Pacific to 'encircle' China.
      Isn't “Cold War and zero-sum mentality”
      that leads to obsessive military superiority?

  • @Brownyman
    @Brownyman 2 года назад +25

    Copper, silver, and palladium will likely crop up too.
    Additionally if the price disparity between the face value and metal value of US nickel and penny coins gets too high no amount of legal tender laws will stop people from hoarding/melting them down.

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 2 года назад +2

      We shouldn't even be minting them anymore. You can't buy anything for less than a quarter anymore.

  • @Goddestiny864
    @Goddestiny864 Год назад +8

    Indonesia is the largest Nickel resources in the world and currently Indonesia government ban export nickel without process

  • @richardlocke7264
    @richardlocke7264 2 года назад +14

    LFP batteries are the future, and they need no Ni or Co

  • @Matzes
    @Matzes 2 года назад +64

    Tesla has long term contracts with suppliers. Half of their cars also do not use any Nickel because they use a iron cathode. This is OEMs biggest Problem though

    • @jonglee6917
      @jonglee6917 2 года назад +7

      This is absolutely correct

    • @coolbluereview
      @coolbluereview 2 года назад +14

      If only CNBS would report accurately on this.

    • @cashcow4383
      @cashcow4383 2 года назад +6

      The long term contracts do not matter , if nickel price is $100K, $200k per ton , then Tesla will have to sell the cars for so much money that nobody will buy them. , its not a contract issue, its a supply issue, Tesla isnt the only company that will need nickel , 28 automakers, motrocyle makers, stainless steel producers all need nickel and stainless steel prices have quaddrippled in the last year alone.

    • @Matzes
      @Matzes 2 года назад +3

      @@cashcow4383 tesla locked in alot of its prices a while Back. This price Explosion will affect them the least of all the auto manufacturers. They are also the company that orders the most amounts and has best horizontal integration among their competitors. Who would you sell your supply to? Tesla, the trillion dollar company, making millions of cars, growing like crazy, super high demand in their product. Or the OEM/start up that might not even be around once their contract is over?

    • @cashcow4383
      @cashcow4383 2 года назад +2

      @@Matzes you are WRONG. they only have a minimal amount on the LME futures and will probably end up having to charge 50 percent more for vehicles /

  • @CrenorZ
    @CrenorZ 2 года назад +17

    so no research?? China is going LFP, Tesla standard model uses LFP - 0% nickel (and 0% cobalt)

    • @aBusybee
      @aBusybee 2 года назад +1

      nickel is used in a lot of stuff not just batteries

    • @sko1beer
      @sko1beer 2 года назад +1

      tesla is keeping nickel batteries on the high end cars

  • @Snuper325
    @Snuper325 2 года назад

    Was about to order a model 3 performance but now I got to stick with my bucket much longer.

  • @torgid1517
    @torgid1517 2 года назад

    Karora Resources has recently discovered a new high grade nickel ore trough located next to their current mine infrastructure. BHP, located a few kilometers away, already has facilities there to process this ore scheduled to start arriving next year.

  • @lylestavast7652
    @lylestavast7652 2 года назад +57

    Not a single mention of other battery types like LFP that are already being used in EVs. We might just see one of the developers of those make significant advances which narrow the gap between them and best of class N* batteries, and the problem will reduce on it's own... My gut tells me someone is going to use some nano technology in a clever way to reduce some of the volumes needed and at the same time improve their performance in energy density realm... Then again, so much battery research going on all over the place, could see an entirely different mixture of chemistries come to the fore and Ni might not even be involved in them. Recycling is a good thing anyway, make the pipeline from user to those plants simple to use and it should address some of near-term demand.

    • @ricotrejo4125
      @ricotrejo4125 2 года назад +1

      I feel that could be LFP addresses the smallest concerns of ev’s? Like don't we need lithium for long range or magnesium

    • @Mathis218337
      @Mathis218337 2 года назад +1

      Depends what you mean by long range. Storage, and 300-350 range cars can be accomplished with iron
      But a 500 long range cyber truck will likely need nickel.

    • @Reddylion
      @Reddylion 2 года назад +1

      👍 for battery technology.

    • @emceeboogieboots1608
      @emceeboogieboots1608 2 года назад

      It was a report on nickel,so that's why
      But you are correct, there is massive investment in battery technology that will see new battery chemistry such as sodium being introduced

    • @saltymonke3682
      @saltymonke3682 2 года назад

      and youll need another Phosphate mines which are already competing with fertilizer usage

  • @BoldRam
    @BoldRam 2 года назад +10

    A relatively important but ultimately short term problem. Sodium (salt) Ion batteries coming out on the market late this year that don't use Lithium or Nickel. Already 10 times cheaper and 1000 times cleaner to produce. 5 yrs till they're the dominant EV battery. Lithium and Nickel will only be used in phone batteries and similar products.

    • @shane864
      @shane864 2 года назад +6

      You clearly don’t have a physics education lol.
      Sodium batteries have uses, transportation is not one of them. Maybe eventually on monster ocean freighters. Maybe.

    • @aBusybee
      @aBusybee 2 года назад +1

      Didnt one of leading sodium startups go bankrupt?

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 2 года назад +5

      Sodium batteries are perfect for electrical grid load balancing, not EVs, because they don't have enough energy density but are relatively cheap. Solid State Lithium Phosphate and Lithium Sulfur are the two upcoming battery chemistries that both don't require nickel and offer comparable and better energy density, respectively. Solid state lithium is currently headed to production with lithium sulfur close behind as breakthroughs in dendrite reduction using glucose have made them viable for long-term use.

    • @BoldRam
      @BoldRam 2 года назад

      @@gljames24 CATL have already achieved 160wh/kg with their sodium/prussian blue variant batteries. They will have their 2nd gen out later this year. EV vehicle packs will probably be hybrid of sodium and nickel based batteries until the sodium / prussian blue variety achieves or passes power parity/density.

    • @saltymonke3682
      @saltymonke3682 2 года назад

      @@shane864 no battery can be used to move large vessel in long range, naval architects have calculated that

  • @egillis214
    @egillis214 2 года назад +2

    Nickel commodities stopped trading for several days due to price volatility

  • @sloth9669
    @sloth9669 2 года назад +1

    Wow. Sounds so green.

  • @torgid1517
    @torgid1517 2 года назад

    Karora resources in Australia has recently discovered new high grade nickel ore adjacent to previous mine infrastructure. These tens of thousands of nickel tonnes will start to be extracted by next year. As luck would have it, BHP has facilities to process this ore a few kilometers from the mine.

  • @kevinjones3665
    @kevinjones3665 2 года назад

    We have nickel, cobalt, and copper at the developing US Strategic Metal/Missouri Cobalt Mine in Fredericktown, Missouri

  • @bowez9
    @bowez9 2 года назад +2

    Funny how the comments talking about LFP batteries but considering range anxiety is a major concern with EV and LFP has less energy density.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 2 года назад +1

      unfortunately most people (even those claiming to be Pro EV) aren't very good at critical thinking, analytical thinking, and "connecting the dots" like you are. correct LFP is not only less energy dense but is also heavier. #NOFREELUNCH

  • @kenfenske5002
    @kenfenske5002 2 года назад +28

    Battery technology is quickly adjusting to the shortage of nickel and cobalt. New battery chemistries are focusing on Lithium-Iron-Phosphate, no nickel or cobalt needed. Tesla standard range vehicles are now using this new chemistry. Beyond that CATL is working on sodium salt based batteries rather than lithium. It's a couple years out but coming. These are early days.

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac 2 года назад +1

      Thanks. The video ignores that fact and the only reference to alternative sources was the Musk statement.

    • @BoldRam
      @BoldRam 2 года назад +2

      Exactly, this is a very one sided and not very well researched article. CATL have achieved 160wh/kg already and will have their 2nd gen batteries out later this year. EV vehicle packs will probably be hybrid of sodium and nickel based batteries until the sodium / prussian blue variety achieves or passes power parity. Exciting times for renewables and lower and cleaner production costs.

    • @rkt81
      @rkt81 2 года назад +2

      Ion phosphate is being used in low end ev scooter batteries in India. They are getting better in terms of charging time and range.

    • @GrantDWilliams82
      @GrantDWilliams82 2 года назад +1

      Who cares? Only about 25% of miles driven over the last 30 years have been driven by small, short-range, private vehicles.

    • @ausnetting
      @ausnetting 2 года назад +7

      Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) is not a new chemistry. It is safer (250°C before ignition vs 150°C for Lithium Cobalt - the more common Lithium Ion chemistry), but it’s energy density and charge voltage are significantly lower than other Lithium Ion chemistries.

  • @patrickolivier
    @patrickolivier 2 года назад

    just mine it in Canada, there's the Dumont project in mining friendly Québec, next to Canada's largest gold mine (Canadian Malartic)

  • @AlexCio
    @AlexCio 2 года назад

    we all should work more together finding new solutions and getting most out of it. There are too many consumers out their, and too little people crafting things and solving the worlds problems.

  • @nameremovedforyourpleasure352
    @nameremovedforyourpleasure352 2 года назад +1

    There is another mountain of nickel ore in Oregon and I am not talking about Riddle, Oregon.

  • @DynamicHaze
    @DynamicHaze 2 года назад +37

    There seems to be a shortage of everything right now. Isn't that interesting.

    • @DynamicHaze
      @DynamicHaze 2 года назад +2

      Instead of humanity taking this as an opportunity to create highly efficient materials recycling plants/projects, we focus on creating more pits in the earth in search of these materials.

    • @A.bankss
      @A.bankss 2 года назад +8

      when you have a population of nearly 8 billion, shortages seem obvious don't they

    • @DynamicHaze
      @DynamicHaze 2 года назад +3

      @@A.bankss No, actually they shouldn't exist when you really take the time to think about it, and if we're being honest with each other we know that not even half of that nearly 8 billion has access to these resources to even consume them. The issue isn't a lack of resources the issue is the lack of proper and effecient allocation of these resources. Why is the continent of Asia and Africa Europe and the United States mineral pit while the natives in those regions don't see any material benefit from the labor and shipping of those resources to wealthier countries. You didn't do much with your response here pal. Nearly 8 billion people and more than half live on pennies a day. A third experiences food insecurity, water issues, but yes all 8 billion of these people have complete access to all the resources and use them equally. Oh my bad that's not the world we live in you bufoon.

    • @moodlampActual
      @moodlampActual 2 года назад

      @@A.bankss we needed a better plague

    • @ZekeMagnum
      @ZekeMagnum 2 года назад

      💰💰💰💰💰💰
      Blaming inflation for raising prices whilst making 50-100% profit gain during the pandemic is also very popular.

  • @ahmedahm1
    @ahmedahm1 2 года назад +1

    Serious question here. Does that affect the price of Nickelback ? and can we use Foo Fighters instead ???

  • @slumpdogyt
    @slumpdogyt 2 года назад +2

    We need more EVs people say, but then say no more mining of nickel.

  • @Healing_Beats991
    @Healing_Beats991 2 года назад

    Check out Queensland Pacific metals on the Australian stock exchange. Can turn laterite ore into battery grade nickel similar to hpal plants but carbon negative, no tailings dam, clean and green and fits esg criteria with LG Chem and POSCO as stake holders.

  • @keiththoma2559
    @keiththoma2559 2 года назад

    I don't like the framing of mining vs recycling. We need both. One thing to consider is that with demand for nickel growing new techniques will be found that find new deposits and new ways to refine the low quality nickel to be less energy intensive etc. We are only really scratching the surface here.

  • @aleong2005
    @aleong2005 2 года назад +4

    Save all your nickel coins

  • @sshray1115
    @sshray1115 Год назад

    Very insightful ⭐⭐🌟⭐⭐

  • @gparejaf1
    @gparejaf1 2 года назад +1

    Now we shifted from mining for Oil to mining for Lithium and Nickel

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 2 года назад

      yup basically. examine it close and we quickly see the "common denominator" underlying BOTH phenomena is the behavior of Human GREED/DESIRE "run amok" (which has always been the problem since the beginning of Time). our EGOS of course will forever be HESITANT to come to this realization.

  • @k1ddish
    @k1ddish 2 года назад +1

    @CNBC, how about you do a report on the shortage of quality journalism.

  • @ricinro
    @ricinro 2 года назад

    Tesla has already mentioned adding manganese to reduce nickel demand. As the demand for batteries increase different chemistries for different applications will find their way to market.

  • @FinanceHustle
    @FinanceHustle 2 года назад +1

    There's already huge supply shortages. I'm sure humanity will rise to the occasion and overcome these problems to ensure that we have a bright future.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 2 года назад

      re: "I'm sure humanity will rise to the occasion and overcome these problems to ensure that we have a bright future."

  • @srinivasankanniah
    @srinivasankanniah 2 года назад +13

    Apt title for this content should be "Non availability of high quality nickel will impact the global EV battery industry".

    • @hermeslein6614
      @hermeslein6614 2 года назад +1

      Shut Up America is going down China Russia rules the world

    • @jeffr985
      @jeffr985 2 года назад +1

      They title it this way for clicks. Tesla is working to get more and more away from nickel in their batteries. Also the nickel in batteries can be recycled at almost a 100% rate.

    • @benjaminnead8557
      @benjaminnead8557 2 года назад

      CNBC is generally doing a good job reporting on these renewable energy issues. But, yeah, whoever is choosing these clickbait headlines needs to transferred to the entertainment division.

    • @nameremovedforyourpleasure352
      @nameremovedforyourpleasure352 2 года назад

      @@hermeslein6614 Biden and WEF vs the Majority of mankind per Putin, Xi and crew.

    • @jeffr985
      @jeffr985 2 года назад

      @@benjaminnead8557 I disagree here…Not one mention of iron phosphate batteries. No nickel needed and the direction that Tesla and many others are headed with their battery technology.

  • @divelizard1966
    @divelizard1966 2 года назад

    We got plenty down here in Australia

  • @rebeccagibson7881
    @rebeccagibson7881 2 года назад +1

    Nickel is the new sugar, and battery factories burn a lot longer than sugar posts (which turn into an impressive ball o' fire)

  • @johnericpamintuan6718
    @johnericpamintuan6718 Год назад +2

    the Philippines has abundance of Nickel

  • @stevehan8157
    @stevehan8157 2 года назад

    So what’s the best investment right now in the nickel mining or sourcing industry?

  • @harunmuhia2745
    @harunmuhia2745 2 года назад +1

    Tanzania and Burundi have the world's largest unmined reserves; your research largely ignores Africa, Where graphite, a battery component, is also in abundance. Graphite prices are also at an all-time high.

  • @andyjohnson3790
    @andyjohnson3790 2 года назад +26

    The world absolutely sucks at recycling basically everything. Almost everything can be recycled or reused, the main draw back for some is that it can be cheaper to use new virgin materials such as plastic, and there is basically ZERO education and policy for recycling Especially in the US.
    The world can also not mine it's way out of climate change unless we recycle Everything possible while reducing the overall energy demand at the same time.
    Please everyone learn how to recycle PROPERLY, it is very Very important.

    • @Oxazepam65
      @Oxazepam65 2 года назад +3

      Products should also be made with recycling and repairing in mind. Smartphone company got away with planned obsolescence and glued batteries for way to long.

    • @milkmangaming3325
      @milkmangaming3325 2 года назад +7

      What about the heat pollution which is causing global warming? Recycling plastic costs 1000x more energy rather then making new plastics, that's the real problem here. Plastic is a big problem but it isn't a big deal right now because the real problem is the heat pollution.
      And the same goes towards recycling anything, it will always cost more to recycle then to produce.

    • @Plumber1111
      @Plumber1111 2 года назад +4

      I moved from the south to the north east to take care of my grandmother.
      When my engine in my 96 Toyota corolla manual crapped out. I just did a engine and transmission swap from a 2010 Toyota corolla manual.
      I'm a huge supporter of making everything modular so you can swap internal components very easily.
      You can extend the life of really anything if your design it that. Companies don't want you to fix what you already got. They want you to buy a new one and just throw it out.
      And the amount of plastic that is thrown out is disgusting. There are technologies that can scan and separate every kind of plastic that is manufactured.
      We do need to recycle and thing of a thing we buy as an investment.
      My dad owned a automotive repair garage when he was still working. When he started, you bought a high-end car jack and just rebuilt the piston and pump chambers about every 10 years.
      Now car Jack's are so cheap they get thrown away and buy new ones.
      It's a change of mind set and tax incentives to make things modular.

    • @mlaw1123
      @mlaw1123 2 года назад +2

      Reducing energy demand, lol what a green lunatic

    • @andyjohnson3790
      @andyjohnson3790 2 года назад

      @@milkmangaming3325 again what BS!!!!! Show any facts that recycling plastics takes 1000x more energy than new virgin plastic.
      You also can't compare recycling all Anything as the same because there are some nay factors that go into making And recycling products.
      Such as what type of material is it, how far did it travel, what mode of transportation did it travel buy, what is the new product going to be and how long is it I tended to last, what sources of energy is being used processing the material, can the material/product be recycled again, etc.
      Have you ever even seen a garage dump? Do you even know how many billions of dollars the EPA spends on cleaning up old dumps and super fund sites that are polluting the air and water?
      Do you have any idea the long term contracts and securities it takes to get and maintain new supplies of raw materials from other countries around the world?
      DON'T spread BS information on the internet¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @agungbuana6796
    @agungbuana6796 2 года назад +1

    Dear CNBC, please research LFP battery

  • @itsmini6175
    @itsmini6175 2 года назад

    The Iron Range in northern Minnesota has caused havoc over its long tenure on the ecosystem. I hope the new mine takes the ecosystem into account

  • @rodanderson8490
    @rodanderson8490 2 года назад +1

    Their biggest problem will be "not in my backyard" resistance.

  • @bizzyb0t
    @bizzyb0t 2 года назад

    That Adrian Gardner guy sounds like the voice of KITT from Knight Rider.

  • @marcrochefort4483
    @marcrochefort4483 2 года назад +1

    Not my problem there is a disorderly market finding price for paper. In my opinion there is a short squeeze coming in every metal.

  • @alexgauthier8689
    @alexgauthier8689 2 года назад +1

    No mention of New Caledonia?

  • @feltdoctor
    @feltdoctor 2 года назад

    Matter can neither be created nor destroyed. In every conversion is loss.

  • @johnr5312
    @johnr5312 2 года назад +2

    Tesla is using predominantly LFP battery chemistry. Elon’s nickel plea and email referenced here are a year old. Tesla changed direction. Its actually GM who has the biggest problem with nickel supplies. Its all readily available information but as usual this reporting is inaccurate with regard to Tesla.

  • @marcuss7617
    @marcuss7617 2 года назад +19

    Cmon CNBS! What a hit piece! Tesla has and will shift to iron phosphate!

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv 2 года назад

      Lol….. iron phosphate to make the millions of cybertruck or semi!?!? Stfu!!!!!

    • @ricardobarahona3939
      @ricardobarahona3939 2 года назад

      Also their for your god

    • @bobbray9666
      @bobbray9666 2 года назад +1

      At current consumption levels, we will run out of known phosphorus reserves in around 80 years, according to MIT. The industry agrees with this. Most phosphate mined in the US comes from a mine in Aurora, NC, although there are other mines in the western US. The vast majority of phoshates are used in fertilizers.

  • @Crusader1984
    @Crusader1984 2 года назад +1

    CNBC is the every shortage Channel

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 2 года назад

      Sunshine and abundance doesn't sell internet clicks.

  • @k1ddish
    @k1ddish 2 года назад +1

    EPA is the resistance against all forms of progress. Because regardless of how we improve our living standards it will all have an impact on the environment.

  • @magguscrow
    @magguscrow 2 года назад +1

    I guess we need Nickelback.

  • @alparslankorkmaz2964
    @alparslankorkmaz2964 2 года назад +1

    Nice video.

  • @omahajim45
    @omahajim45 2 года назад +5

    There's a shortage of everything. Except people. We have too many of those. Fewer people, no shortage of everything else.🤷 Seems obvious.

  • @luckieoleary6459
    @luckieoleary6459 2 года назад

    How do I worked there, I’m in MN and near Tamarack

  • @mc4ndr3
    @mc4ndr3 2 года назад +3

    Does that mean "Lithium" batteries are really "Nickel-Lithium"?

    • @lylestavast7652
      @lylestavast7652 2 года назад +4

      Lithium is actually a pretty small portion by volume of this type of battery - they have mix names like NMC (nickel manganese cobalt) and NCA (nickel cobalt aluminum) - those callouts are for the Cathode material, and the Anode is graphite (generally). when you charge one, electrons flow from one to the other and when you use the power (discharge) it flows the opposite direction. The mix of materials affects how much charge it can hold... Nickle lets you get more into less space essentially... Some Li batteries don't use Ni at all - like LFP - they're lithium iron phosphate in nature...

    • @coolbluereview
      @coolbluereview 2 года назад

      @@lylestavast7652 Yup that’s true!

  • @wabbitseason6722
    @wabbitseason6722 2 года назад

    This is the best! Everyone says they want self-sustaining free energy. Now they don't want to pusue the steps needed to achieve that goal. The best irony!

  • @jordanhodges946
    @jordanhodges946 2 года назад +5

    So scaling EVs would actually create a dangerous demand of natural resources while also contaminating the environment. This sounds like the same problems that got us to where we are now but with different materials.

  • @eduardoforneck3335
    @eduardoforneck3335 2 года назад

    LFT would certainly help. Battery recycling? To recycle, you first have to produce, and to produce you need nickel, your putting the carriage before the horse.

  • @wisfina
    @wisfina 2 года назад +5

    there are abundance nickel reserve in indonesia, but tesla refuse to invest in nickel industry because of environmental sake. sooner or later korean or chinese EV maker will replace tesla as first EV maker in the world. because they already build nickel ecosystem (from mining, semelter, baterry and vehicle) in indonesia.

    • @raifikarj6698
      @raifikarj6698 2 года назад +1

      Yeah because the low quality ore that need to be processed to be a nickel need 10-20 Times more energy and Various chemical than high grade ire

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 2 года назад +1

      Tesla is only #1 in the USA with a poorly developed (for now) EV market. They are getting crushed in China and Europe because the are a luxury brand and dont offer cheaper options. so i agree, just that Tesla isnt close to being #1 in those markets already.

  • @arvyno7129
    @arvyno7129 2 года назад +7

    I have idea that alredy proven
    Make good public transport along side ev vehicle
    By this way not everyone have a car but use bike or E-moped
    And goverment can build trams,train,hsr,buses and other for all people

  • @shepherdsknoll
    @shepherdsknoll 2 года назад +1

    LFP batteries have no nickel or cobalt.

  • @donelpatterson9036
    @donelpatterson9036 2 года назад +1

    Up 20 % week. * IQST.. EV battery / EV Motorcycle / Fintech / Telecom IoT / Blockchain. 5 Divisions. Growing Revenue.

  • @sj8778
    @sj8778 2 года назад +1

    There has to be more nickel in north America.

  • @ChaJ67
    @ChaJ67 2 года назад +3

    It would be interesting to see if the LiS (lithium sulfur) battery can be both perfected and mass produced. This is kind of the holy grail of next gen battery tech if it can be achieved in a way that makes sense for EVs. There are some indicators that we may already be at the dawn of this entering into EV use through recent advancements and innovative design. No shortage of Sulfur out there.
    This may lead to a bifurcation where LFP batteries get used for stationary storage and LiS batteries get used for transport applications. I could easily see LiS in cars, trains, planes, and boats. A practical durable chemistry may proof to be 2x to 3x as energy dense as the Lithium-ion batteries used in Tesla cars today. That would be enough to fly a regional airliner, allow a cargo ship to cross an ocean without being overburdened with battery weight, or allow a battery electric train locomotive run a full work shift at full power. Granted LFP batteries are already finding their way into battery electric locomotives and it seems to be working out as train locomotives can be setup to carry a whole lot of batteries mass wise. There have also been a demonstration of a dual battery modified Tesla Model S using was is suspected to be an LiS battery for is 600 mile "range extender" second battery pack in addition to a 150 mile Lithium-ion battery.
    Even if the battery market bifurcates this way and Lithium Nickel Cobalt batteries go into a decline, Elon Musk still needs the nickel for his stainless steal Starship rockets, which he wants to make a lot of.

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 2 года назад

      The only better chemistry in terms of electro-negativity would lithium florine, but it may be possible for use to develop hypercapacitors using graphine like materials or some other exotic way of electrical energy storage.

  • @donelpatterson9036
    @donelpatterson9036 2 года назад +1

    40 % Gain Week. * SOLO.. 3 Wheel EV. Electra Meccanica. Growing orders and deliveries. New Assembly Plant Soon.

  • @samuellacosta4025
    @samuellacosta4025 2 года назад

    I think ive got some nickels in my pocket I can loan you.

  • @whatthafunk69
    @whatthafunk69 2 года назад

    There is a ton of nickel in the Canadian Shield. Just need to fire up those mines.

  • @KK-tt6ui
    @KK-tt6ui 2 года назад +1

    Eventually there won’t be enough rare metals to make these batteries. Probably sooner than later

  • @buttercup3518
    @buttercup3518 Год назад

    This is the heart of the rift between City Dwellers and Country Dwellers.

  • @antoinepageau8336
    @antoinepageau8336 2 года назад +19

    CNBS fud at work. Tesla has long term agreements in place that predate this spike in nickel price. The ev competition in North America is just starting to negotiate supply. They might have a tough time. And then there’s the LFP batteries that Tesla uses more and more. No nickel no cobalt no problem.

    • @user-gc1hg9sp9k
      @user-gc1hg9sp9k 2 года назад +5

      yeah consider this video not mention a single word about LFP battery. it's cheaper, safer, and more environtment friendly than NCM battery, the only downside is the battery density

    • @arthurmarsch6211
      @arthurmarsch6211 2 года назад +1

      Yep a definite case of tunnel vision in this video

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv 2 года назад +1

      LFP batteries is not as dense as nickel ones and for things like trucks or other bigger EVs that hasn’t even started production yet it’s going to be a serious challenge.

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv 2 года назад +2

      @@user-gc1hg9sp9k this video mentioned batteries mostly for performance applications and high density ones which are equally as important and if not more.

    • @temasekb
      @temasekb 2 года назад +1

      Dear cnbc, do not doubt EM capabilities.

  • @a1403984500166
    @a1403984500166 2 года назад +1

    That's why $SX $SXOOF is the biggest winner! The biggest nickel discovery of the last 30 years!

  • @tribalypredisposed
    @tribalypredisposed 2 года назад +5

    The recyclability of EV batteries is driving mining company/bank financing loan writer's reluctance to make new mines. Once the global car and light truck fleet is mostly EVs, demand for nickel and other raw materials for EV batteries will drop off sharply, as new batteries will be made from raw materials recycled from old batteries. The huge costs and many years of effort to bring a new mine into production plus the short period of time there will be demand for the nickel from the new mines is why Tesla is willing to write big checks to get the mines to happen.

    • @tribalypredisposed
      @tribalypredisposed 2 года назад

      @@MT-tg4bt each battery pack will have thousands of dollars of raw materials. They are not glass bottles. No one is going to just toss something with thousand of dollars of raw materials in the garbage, they will definitely be recycled.

  • @monkeeseemonkeedoo3745
    @monkeeseemonkeedoo3745 2 года назад +2

    Hearing the environmental scientist at 13:05 gives me some hope that mining this nickel can be done responsibly. We'll just have to wait for the review I suppose.

    • @harrynamkoong3361
      @harrynamkoong3361 2 года назад

      Don't hold your breath.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 2 года назад

      re: "Hearing the environmental scientist at 13:05 gives me some hope..." yeah FALSE HOPE. unbeknownst this is the psychology of "Confirmation Bias". #CONFIRMATIONBIAS

    • @monkeeseemonkeedoo3745
      @monkeeseemonkeedoo3745 2 года назад

      @@phillyphil1513 Is it confirmation bias at 13:05? It sounds more to me like an environmental scientist believes that modern technology can make mining more environmentally friendly, and will attempt to convince people of her belief. Whether that will happen, no one knows yet. Wait until the report and think on it for yourself.
      I have met many scientists who also deeply care about sustainability, so it is not hard for me to believe that there can be a genuine effort to minimize the environmental impact of this mine. I'm not sure how this project will affect the environment, no one is. But I would say that it is YOU who has made up their mind here, I mean haven't you? Regardless of the study's conclusion, you will sing a little tune about corruption and be convinced (just as you are now) that no sustainable solution can be found for this nickel mine.
      Yet you come here and talk about confirmation bias. It's hilarious.

  • @JohnnyBelgium
    @JohnnyBelgium 2 года назад +6

    How about creating an infrastructure that doesn't require personal transportation. See: most of history.

  • @kickvdw1706
    @kickvdw1706 2 года назад

    This title 😂😂😂

  • @plo8monster113
    @plo8monster113 2 года назад

    haha watch this there is a new hitch in the giddy-up: Cancelled Nickel Trades on the LME
    .......................Patrick Boyle. Amazing channel

    • @plo8monster113
      @plo8monster113 2 года назад

      Think the USA will buy "unsanctioned" Nickel from China after Russia trades it for military support and weapons to fuel the proxy war in Ukraine?
      ...asking for friend :)

  • @Edgarrmz07
    @Edgarrmz07 2 года назад

    Ok, I'll start saving my .05 cent coins. Nickle.

  • @moneynoob1372
    @moneynoob1372 2 года назад +1

    They could get the fed to print more nickels. Problem solved.

  • @ndorobei4391
    @ndorobei4391 2 года назад

    Indonesia has the biggest nickel mine in the world.

  • @fcv1967
    @fcv1967 2 года назад

    I have like 2 big jars of nickels. How much is each one worth now?

  • @kilian4357
    @kilian4357 2 года назад

    Was the narrator working remotely? Sounds like it..

  • @coasterblocks3420
    @coasterblocks3420 2 года назад

    Well, Australia has some of the worlds largest nickel sulphide deposits so looks like we’ll be sitting pretty.

    • @aBusybee
      @aBusybee 2 года назад

      you didn't watch the video

  • @tino687nc
    @tino687nc Год назад

    Well, feels like New-Caledonia doesn't exist in your analysis..

  • @user-gc1hg9sp9k
    @user-gc1hg9sp9k 2 года назад +4

    How about LFP battery?

  • @dcbel
    @dcbel 2 года назад

    It is promising to see that in the EV industry, recycling and cleaner mining practices are topics that are already on the table to help build a more sustainable future! ♻️⚡🔌🚘

    • @BoldRam
      @BoldRam 2 года назад

      Sodium Ion Batteries from CATL will revolutionise the market in the next 2-5 years. No Lithium or Nickel required.

    • @outofthebox5441
      @outofthebox5441 2 года назад

      @@BoldRam I know hydrogen fuel cells will blow the whole ev industry out of the water. This is the true green way to go

  • @wayando
    @wayando 2 года назад

    That CEO of Talon has an interesting accent, I almost don't understand what he is saying.

  • @gen-X-trader
    @gen-X-trader 2 года назад

    This has been a thing for years, why is it just now on TV? Like everyone has known this

  • @andybaldman
    @andybaldman 2 года назад +1

    If I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard this.

  • @Mellow987865
    @Mellow987865 2 года назад +3

    Lol does CNBC not know what Elon is doing? He’s moving away from The use of nickel completely. Ford on the other hand is choosing to base their whole line of electric vehicles off of nickel cobalt. The title of this video should be “why the nickel shortage is Jim Farley’s biggest concern.”
    Although it seems Ford and Jim Farley‘s team is oblivious to this fact

    • @sko1beer
      @sko1beer 2 года назад +3

      tesla is keeping nickel in his high end EVs

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 2 года назад +1

      re: "Lol does CNBC not know what Elon is doing?" hell not even Elon knows what he's doing...? thus by association his rabid followers (same as Trump followers) are even more CLUELESS.

  • @Boxagami
    @Boxagami 2 года назад +7

    The U.S. power grid could not handle charging cars if everyone had an EV.

    • @npcwill283
      @npcwill283 2 года назад

      Klaus Shaub had a mentor that spoke about bio fuels being viable the year I was born ! ruclips.net/video/MWs8BCYC1DI/видео.html

    • @whowhy9023
      @whowhy9023 2 года назад +3

      The grid only has problems during peak demand. 07:00-10:00 & 16:00-21:00
      EV’s charge at night so there is no problem for many years, think 2040-50.

    • @arthurmarsch6211
      @arthurmarsch6211 2 года назад +2

      @john doe are you oil lobbyist or ….?

    • @npcwill283
      @npcwill283 2 года назад +2

      @@whowhy9023 Bro I have been reading rolling black out stories from California my entire life !

    • @lylestavast7652
      @lylestavast7652 2 года назад +2

      which is why you encourage home solar - not that it has to add power back to the grid, it can just free up what is ON the grid for other uses during daylight hours. If the need were there you could easily add 25 % power availability within a 5 year period just using efficiency reviews of it's use, upgrade motors in plants and fix the wonky HVAC systems etc... it's totally doable... and who says everyone has to have an EV ??? If the US got to 35% EVs in the next 10 years in the rolling fleet, it would totally upset the crude refining industry before the power generation industry...

  • @incognitoadventure
    @incognitoadventure Год назад +1

    please contact the philippine govt.. we have a lot of nickels

  • @garybezner6774
    @garybezner6774 2 года назад

    Do not eat everything that is on offer, Canada a little more expensive but nickel is plentiful,

  • @isseihyudou194
    @isseihyudou194 2 года назад +1

    Indonesia ban nickel affect global supply chain

  • @sams8502
    @sams8502 2 года назад

    US government should guarantee Nickel and Lithium contracts to companies. The industry should shift through larger supply creation of battery elements not through supply destruction of oil. This is like investing in infrastructure, it may not pay off right away but in the long run it's the inevitable direction we're going. Why not be forward looking and be the leaders in this space instead of waiting, also it'll create jobs for domestic productio.

  • @didipkerabat
    @didipkerabat 2 года назад

    So, shortage of everything then?

  • @rickshaw296
    @rickshaw296 2 года назад +1

    My 2011 pickup truck has almost no nickel, less than 2 pounds of copper and zero lithium in it. My truck is more environmentally friendly than your Tesla! Oh, and your Tesla probably runs on electricity from a coal fired power plant.

  • @coding7196
    @coding7196 2 года назад

    I'm grateful that Canada has nickel deposits and we need to do more re-cycling.